The Official Against Me! Thread

[blockhead]

Who is Mary?

[thepo]

The Virgin Mary.

[Henrik]

I just saw Against Me! last night and it was an awesome show. I came home covered in sweat from singing and moshing with everyone. The best part was the encore when they played Baby I'm an Anarchist and We Laugh at Danger and Break All the Rules and everyone went crazy and sang every word. It was probably the best concert I've ever been to.

I thought they had skipped Baby I'm An Anarchist from their setlist?
They didn't play it when I saw them, but I really hope theu will next time in october.

[blockhead]

I thought they had skipped Baby I'm An Anarchist from their setlist?
They didn't play it when I saw them, but I really hope theu will next time in october.

I thought they wouldn't play it too, I was really glad when they did.

[santi3hg]

http://www.myspace.com/ke_hoe

Look at the heroes section.

[thepo]

HAHAH! I had heard that a picture like that existed somewhere on the old AM! boards. Warren and Andrew are definitely the only members who I will respect, and pretty much love, no matter what. They should be total badasses and make their own band.

[Flagjacket]

It makes me happy to know that Warren cut off his dick.

santih3g's links are the only thing worth reading in this thread.

[santi3hg]

I try:thumb:

[Cliche]

dude, gross!

HAHAH! I had heard that a picture like that existed somewhere on the old AM! boards. Warren and Andrew are definitely the only members who I will respect, and pretty much love, no matter what. They should be total badasses and make their own band.


Why not James?

[Anarcho Poser]

I don't think I've ever heard James say anything other than "woah-oh-oh-oh"

[rancid22]

hmm. well i just got the new album and i havent posted on here in a long time so i came looking for this thread figuring it would be up front.

i really liked white people for peace and thought the album would be just as politically charged as that song, but i still liked most of the songs. up the cuts and stop! are probably my favorite songs in the album. wish i could see them but the closest they come to me is gainesville tonight in north florida and i live down in miami. i know a few people making the trip but i start school in two days so i cant.

[thepo]

It's not that I don't like him, he just doesn't seem as rad as Warren or Andrew. Or have as much facial hair.

When I saw them live for the first time, Andrew was all over the place before the show, and me and my friends got to talk to him for a while. Then we spoke with Warren after the show, while James just kinda hid in the back. He also doesn't do much speaking in interviews.

Also, Jesus Christ, what's with all the people from Miami in this thread?

[rancid22]

hah. sorry i didnt notice. i never have seen many people here from miami but i am usually in the guitar forum. i used to post in the punk forums many moons ago but moved to the guitar ones. has been nearly a year since i came on.

and i just went back a few pages and read the article about tom and whatnot. was it a messed up thing to do that completely contradicts many of the beliefs of his songs? yes. but i cant say that i hate the guy for it or anything. i also am against violence and stuff but i think it would be easy for me to lose my cool and just want to hurt someone. but it doesnt seem like the guy did much provoking at all. maybe gable just has no patience. still a very upsetting story to read.

[Brewing Up With]

I find James almost annoying to hear at times. He takes over so many vocal parts that Tom sings in the recorded versions of songs. He'll sing like the whole entire second half of Those Anarcho Punks and You Look Like I Need a Drink

[SkaRobotArmy]

thats hilarious, i love his beard.

[me likes punk]

I thought they had skipped Baby I'm An Anarchist from their setlist?
They didn't play it when I saw them, but I really hope theu will next time in october.


Saw them a couple weeks ago and Baby, I'm an Anarchist! was right in the middle of the set.

This **** Rules and We Laugh at Danger and Break All the Rules were the encore. SUCH A GOOD SHOW!

[santi3hg]

Holy **** yeah there is a load of people from Miami. You guys go to shows?

[Scuba_Steve]

I hate to interrupt your miamorgy but I just got around to downloading new wave and I must say that I'm enjoying alot more than I did Searching for a Former Clarity

[rancid22]

Holy **** yeah there is a load of people from Miami. You guys go to shows?

yea. last show i went to was the one in revolution in ft. lauderdale just to catch streetlight manifesto. didnt have tickets but i stood outside for a little bit and some guy gave me his ticket for free. i got rained on like crazy but it was worth every penny i didnt pay. probably the best show i have ever been to just because i love streetlight.

before that i went to warped tour, which was a waste of money considering i left before bad religion played. and then i went to the casualties in downtown because my friend thought it would be interesting to watch them. also a waste of money. i hated all the bands that played, and the crowd sucked.

[Chicken And Waffuls]

alot of kids where i live hate this band. one of the local bands around here slashed the tiers on against me!'s van. well thats how the story goes in a nut shell. and at one of the shows they were playing "baby im and anarchist" and everyone in the crowd would give them the finger.

i guess its because of when they were supposed to play with world/inferno at cbgb they filled the club with major label executives and left about 400 kids outside and unable to go to the show. they were supposed to sell tickets at the door but the day of were filled. unless you had ordered a ticket online, which cbgb lied about and didnt not put this online until the day of, you were not allowed in.

****ing sellouts. they still rule though. the new album isnt as bad as everyone made it out to be.

[santi3hg]

W3rd.

Last show I was at was Blacklisted and Ceremony. I'll be at Studio A for obituary. Next Revolution show for Minus the Bear.

[thepo]

Oh man, Streetlight was amazing! And sweet, thanks, I didn't know Minus the Bear was playing soon.

[Liebensaft]

New Wave is for sale in Wal-Mart. Really.

[Scuba_Steve]

are they only selling a censored version like they usually do?



do they still do that ****? (hasnt been to an american walmart or walmart in general for a couple of years)

[SkaRobotArmy]

yea. last show i went to was the one in revolution in ft. lauderdale just to catch streetlight manifesto. didnt have tickets but i stood outside for a little bit and some guy gave me his ticket for free. i got rained on like crazy but it was worth every penny i didnt pay. probably the best show i have ever been to just because i love streetlight.

before that i went to warped tour, which was a waste of money considering i left before bad religion played. and then i went to the casualties in downtown because my friend thought it would be interesting to watch them. also a waste of money. i hated all the bands that played, and the crowd sucked.

i got into warped tour for free. :chug:

[Liebensaft]

are they only selling a censored version like they usually do?



do they still do that poop? (hasnt been to an american walmart or walmart in general for a couple of years)

Yes.

[rancid22]

i got into warped tour for free. :chug:

i envy you. but seeing your avatar, i think streetlight may have been a better deal. even though warped was more expensive.

but yea, streetlight was awesome. skanking in the rain was so much fun i forgot i have asthma and i didnt bring my inhaler.

any of you miami people happen to go to a private high school? or maybe alumni from one?


hmm. i didnt know walmart still sold censored albums. i used to have to buy those when i was younger and my mom wouldn't let me buy them with the little parental advisory stickers on them. oh boy, good times.

[SkaRobotArmy]

streetlight i am seeing on sunday for $14.

[Johnny Quest.]

I don't get why ...Clarity isn't considered a good album, i think it's got some really great songs on it. I think it's better than New Wave, which isn't that bad either.

[Anarcho Poser]

There's some good songs, but too many bad ones.

[rancid22]

I don't get why ...Clarity isn't considered a good album, i think it's got some really great songs on it. I think it's better than New Wave, which isn't that bad either.

i love searching for a former clarity. i think a lot of people dont like it because a lot of the songs deal with them signing to a major label and how many fans are going to hate them. the most direct song being "unprotected songs with multiple partners". personally i dont understand why so many songs dealt with that if they were still on fat wreck. idk. but even those songs, IMO, have some of the best lyrics any bands are writing.

[Brewing Up With]

It's still can't compare to Crime or RAR

[Henrik]

Miami, Unprotected sez with multiple partners and From Her Lips To God's Ears (The Energizer) are the only songs I enjoyed a lot on Clarity.


Ohh. And Holy **** too.

[Anarcho Poser]

I like Joy a bunch.

[Scuba_Steve]

Holy **** was the only song I really really liked off of that album.

[Cliche]

A couple of weeks ago I downloaded the new "Against Me!" album "New Wave". I didnt really know too much about this band but had been reading lots of good things about it, and my friend Tegan sings on it. I like to keep myself up to date with whats going on musically in the world, so I checked it out. I fell in love with the album. Really. Like, couldn't stop listening to it. As heavy and gnarly as it sounds at times, it is unmistakably a pop masterpiece. Listening to it on the way to Australia, I wondered to myself how these songs would sound acoustically.

A couple of days later I was on a flight from Sydney to Melbourne and had the thought "I'd love to cover this album." The whole thing. Beginning to end. So I did.

Anyway, here are the results. If you already know the original album, I hope these recordings shed a different light on it. If you don't know "Against Me!" and like what you hear, go check them out.

Nic Johns is the unspoken hero of this tale. He recorded, produced and mixed it and basically made my dream a reality. Hats off to him.

Hope you guys dig it.

Enjoy!

Ben

Download it here:

http://www.ben-lee.com/blog.htm

[Anarcho Poser]

I don't like his voice.

It does make me wish the album was acoustic though.

[Madcanis]

I think Searching For A Former Clarity is up there with the rest of their albums, it has a different sound but I still think the songs are written really well and sound awesome. My favorites from there are Miami, Unprotected Secks With Multiple Partners, From Her Lips to God's Ears (The Energizer), Joy, Holy Sh*t, Don't Lose Touch, and Searching For A Former Clarity is great because the whole song is a metaphor, like Unprotected Secks With Multiple Partners. I think it's better than New Wave but there's only about 3 songs on New Wave that I dislike so it's pretty good too. I can't stand that people only hate New Wave cus it's on a major label, there's still great music on it.

[Brewing Up With]

I think Searching For A Former Clarity is up there with the rest of their albums, it has a different sound but I still think the songs are written really well and sound awesome. My favorites from there are Miami, Unprotected Secks With Multiple Partners, From Her Lips to God's Ears (The Energizer), Joy, Holy Sh*t, Don't Lose Touch, and Searching For A Former Clarity is great because the whole song is a metaphor, like Unprotected Secks With Multiple Partners. I think it's better than New Wave but there's only about 3 songs on New Wave that I dislike so it's pretty good too. I can't stand that people only hate New Wave cus it's on a major label, there's still great music on it.

I found that most of the songs on SFAFC we're by far the weakest lyrically of all their albums. Only Joy stands out for me. Listen to Untitled on the Acoustic EP.

People don't like New Wave just because it's on a major label. I'd still like Against Me! if they were on Sire and wrote albums like ATEC and RAR or their EP's. New Wave is good when looked at aside from their earlier work, sure, but Compared to RAR, ATEC, Crime, and Acoustic, It lacks passion and the folk style they used to have.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i don't like his voice either, but it definately makes me like the album less as it would be much better acoustic apparently...

[mullets suk]

his voice reminds me of Michael Stipe from REM. is that just me? the piano sounds kinda bad imo, and theres a few songs i dont like that he coved like thrash unreal.

i really liked the acoustic version of up the cuts that some one posted a few pages back.

[AndreTheHyena]

Ben Lee covered an entire AM! record? That's weirder than hearing that they hang out with Bruce Springsteen.

[sweboy]

So did Against Me! sell out or what? I've been out of the loop.

[Madcanis]

Yea I'm not diggin Ben Lee's voice for this album. I don't think it has enough passion for songs like White People For Peace or Thrash Unreal, it's too soft.

[Madcanis]

I found that most of the songs on SFAFC we're by far the weakest lyrically of all their albums. Only Joy stands out for me. Listen to Untitled on the Acoustic EP.

By Untitled do you mean the last song on there which I heard is called Armageddon? I have that and walking is still honest from the acoustic EP. Do you think that is their best song lyrically?

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Walking Is Still Honest isn't on the Acoustic EP. Be cool if it was. And yeah, some people call it Untitled, some call it Armageddon.

[Brewing Up With]

By Untitled do you mean the last song on there which I heard is called Armageddon? I have that and walking is still honest from the acoustic EP. Do you think that is their best song lyrically?

I personally think that is their best song lyrically.

*Dammit, now you're making me think if that is their best song lyrically. Now I'm thinking of counter examples to my bold claim.

[Brewing Up With]

I take it back, Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% is their best song lyrically IMO

[lynch_me]

Ben Lee covered an entire AM! record? That's weirder than hearing that they hang out with Bruce Springsteen.

Where'd you hear that?

[SkaRobotArmy]

think it was in an interview they said it.

[Henrik]

Reinventing Axl Rose is the song that lyrically means the most to me.

[Johnny Quest.]

The whole Disco Before the Breakdown has great lyrics. It never seems to get the recognition it deserves, I think that EP has three of AM!'s best songs on it.

[mullets suk]

The whole Disco Before the Breakdown has great lyrics. It never seems to get the recognition it deserves, I think that EP has three of AM!'s best songs on it.

123, best lyrics, but to me not the ones that mean the most, that goes to armageddon.

[Cliche]

Armageddon is definitely an awesome song, anyway you look at it.

[Brewing Up With]

Theres so many songs that are just written so well by them. They really meant a lot when they were recording and making their early releases.

[tom79]

We Did It All for Don is my favorite pre-RAR song.

[Madcanis]

Personally I think 8 Full Hours of Sleep and What We Worked For are my favorite lyrically.

[Henrik]

I don't really get what "What We Worked For" is about exactly.

[mullets suk]

same, he kinda jumps about.

[Cliche]

I'm sure some of you remember the S/T 12" EP I posted a couple pages back that I could on eBay.


Well... $375!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Against-Me-S-T-Hand-25-50-Good-condition_W0QQitemZ260149145027QQihZ016QQcategoryZ 306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Someone on VLV has two of those. I've decided to give up on it all together. It's not even all that good, except for I Am Citizen which is a f'ucking amazing song.

[asdf]

That's ****ing ridiulous.

I wish I had something that valuable in my music collection... but I don't wish to spend that kind of money to get it.

[mullets suk]

yea, if a i found it at a garage sale for 3 bucks i would totally pick it up...but for over 100, let alone 350$, thats crazy.

[Scuba_Steve]

I think 75 would be the most I spent on an album.

[Cliche]

Someone on VLV has two of those. I've decided to give up on it all together. It's not even all that good, except for I Am Citizen which is a f'ucking amazing song.


Yeah, I agree completely. It's not that great of an album. It's just the novelty of having something so rare.

[Anarcho Poser]

You Must Be Willing is a pretty good song.

[Johnny Quest.]

I saw them on Friday and they were pretty good. They opened with Pints of Guiness, and the place went crazy, then it really sort of petered out, they ended with The Ocean, and nobody was into it, the set just...ended. They didn't play any other RAR material.

But they're coming back here in October, which is good news.

[SkaRobotArmy]

but the real question is, do you johnny quest, think they are sellouts?

[Cliche]

They're coming here October 1st. I'm so pumped.

[Anarcho Poser]

I'm way pissed, because they're coming to where I would normally be able to see them sept 5th, but I'm leaving for college on thursday :(

[Angry Balled Fists!]

against me! played a really poor set at leeds fest. 1 song off RAR, 2 of ATEC and the rest were off SFAFC and NW.

[Henrik]

but the real question is, do you johnny quest, think they are sellouts?
I lol'd :chug:

[Cliche]

against me! played a really poor set at leeds fest. 1 song off RAR, 2 of ATEC and the rest were off SFAFC and NW.

Yeah, I heard they really blew ***.

I got my tickets today though! Hopefully they don't play Stop!

[mullets suk]

it kinda sucks you have to get lucky with the set list they play. my brother saw them about a year ago, and he said they played one or two songs off of RAR, but then mostly played SFAFC and NW. yet when i saw them 6 months later they play a bunch off of a RAR. they even played **** stroll, and of course other stuff off the other two albums + NW (Didnt come out at that time)

[Cliche]

it kinda sucks you have to get lucky with the set list they play. my brother saw them about a year ago, and he said they played one or two songs off of RAR, but then mostly played SFAFC and NW. yet when i saw them 6 months later they play a bunch off of a RAR. they even played **** stroll, and of course other stuff off the other two albums + NW (Didnt come out at that time)

Yeah, when I saw them about 6 months ago they played Tonight We're Going to Give it 35%, and a bunch off of RaR, a couple off of ATEC, and maybe 2 or 3 from Clarity.

[Johnny Quest.]

but the real question is, do you johnny quest, think they are sellouts?

Yes. Anyone that says otherwise is wrong.

[Flagjacket]

Yes. Anyone that says otherwise is wrong.

:rolleyes:

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

I got lucky

I saw them in April/Mayish
The played ATEC, every song minus 3 (2 acoustics and the third one on the album) and a couple from RAR (Pints of Guinness, Walking is Still Hones and Reinventing i think)

I was the most badass show ever.

[thepo]

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

[Henrik]

:rolleyes:
You do these kind of things way too much.

[Cliche]

The new acoustic songs are out on iTunes, anyone have them yet?

[Henrik]

I would like to hear them but I don't want to pay for them for sure.

[Cliche]

Yeah, I was actually thinking about paying. But I probably won't.

[Cliche]

Against Me! played on Letterman last night. I'm downloading it now.

[AIRIC]

:rolleyes:

Nope that's actually correct.

[Cliche]

Aw man, they played Stop!

[Anarcho Poser]

Aw man, they played Stop!

Take some time to think.


Is this one song really what's important to you?

[squirreltree]

they're just a band, i don't know why people take everything they do so personally. besides, between tom and warren they have probably done more activism than most people ever will - warren was involved in the opening of 2 infoshops before he was even 19! not to mention all the florida radical activist network work and food not bombs and immokalle farm worker support and youth liberation camps and diy camps and theatre of the oppressed and blah blah blah... and zines and multiple bands and of course, "why freegan". and they're nice as hell and sincere people and you seriously have to have a sense of humor about what they do - i mean warren went train hopping and came back with a homemade 'youth gone wild' tattoo. they're silly! and they don't come from privileged backgrounds, they have worked incredibly hard and played and toured like crazy and it's pretty crappy to get pissed at them for accepting more money for what they're doing. it's ****ing great to see such nice people doing so well...
the first time i heard them play it was in the ocala forest for a may day gathering and it was just tom and kevin, playing on buckets and it was amazing... their shows are still as good as they were then, they're just different. if you don't like change then you're not really punks anyway.

[Flagjacket]

if you don't like change then you're not really punks anyway.
thread has been sent to the Unseen

[Anarcho Poser]

lawl. money's got nothing to do with it, if you've been reading. It's just that the songs suck.

[Cliche]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwVVEASUknQ

I just uploaded that.

[Anarcho Poser]

lol tom winks at the camera at like 1:10

[Liebensaft]

lol tom winks at the camera at like 1:10

Hah, that was the coolest part. Why do they play lame songs when they do these late night shows? Stop isn't even a song that a casual Letterman show viewer would see and like.

[Cliche]

lol tom winks at the camera at like 1:10


Totally noticed that. I'm working on making a .gif of it!

[Anarcho Poser]

rad

[AIRIC]

Tom Gabel is a loser.

[Henrik]

Bahh Stop pretty much sucks!

I have come to enjoy Borne On The FM Waves quite a lot, but I just wish it would have been acoustic.


Edit: It is a tatto of the New Wave cover art that Tom has gotten on his elbow?

[Cliche]

Bahh Stop pretty much sucks!

I have come to enjoy Borne On The FM Waves quite a lot, but I just wish it would have been acoustic.


Edit: It is a tatto of the New Wave cover art that Tom has gotten on his elbow?

Yeah, but he's had that for awhile now. I know he had it when I saw them in March.

[Henrik]

Allright. I just took a look at your favorites on youtube. Damn that Erik Petersen performance looks awesome!

[SkaRobotArmy]

yea, if you look in the insert he is credited with the cover art so its probably something he made a while ago.

[Liebensaft]

Allright. I just took a look at your favorites on youtube. Damn that Erik Petersen performance looks awesome!

If you don't mind a really long video, the end of this has two (all the battery left on my friend's camera) Erik Petersen songs on it. This was the "Skunkape Circus Tour" that came to my friend's house and a bunch of really cool folk musicians played in his basement. Johnny Hobo, his little brother, Erik, and more.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6773228571081908778&q=skunkape+pottstown&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0



Yeah, I noticed that tattoo looked a lot like the cover art. It's a cool cover, not so cool album, and a kind of lame tattoo.

[Cliche]

Allright. I just took a look at your favorites on youtube. Damn that Erik Petersen performance looks awesome!


Yeah, I've definitely watched that video more than a healthy amount.

[Microwave meals & ideals]

The "talk to the hand" movement Gable does at the start of Stop always makes me smile. Cool tattoo too, I think the New Wave art is probably my favourite AM! art.

[Henrik]

My favorite is by far the cover for Reinventing Axl Rose!
That cover just simply rules!

And I hate that "talk to the hand" movement. I don't know if it means anything really but it just looks stupid.

[AIRIC]

My favorite cover is ATEC hands down.

[Flagjacket]

what is there to like about the New Wave cover.

It's a ****ing stencil of a cat.

[Scuba_Steve]

the sink, florida, sink "7 had the best cover tbh.

[thepo]

they're just a band, i don't know why people take everything they do so personally. besides, between tom and warren they have probably done more activism than most people ever will - warren was involved in the opening of 2 infoshops before he was even 19! not to mention all the florida radical activist network work and food not bombs and immokalle farm worker support and youth liberation camps and diy camps and theatre of the oppressed and blah blah blah... and zines and multiple bands and of course, "why freegan". and they're nice as hell and sincere people and you seriously have to have a sense of humor about what they do - i mean warren went train hopping and came back with a homemade 'youth gone wild' tattoo. they're silly! and they don't come from privileged backgrounds, they have worked incredibly hard and played and toured like crazy and it's pretty crappy to get pissed at them for accepting more money for what they're doing. it's ****ing great to see such nice people doing so well...
the first time i heard them play it was in the ocala forest for a may day gathering and it was just tom and kevin, playing on buckets and it was amazing... their shows are still as good as they were then, they're just different. if you don't like change then you're not really punks anyway.

But you're missing the point. The new album blows. Hard.

[asdf]

what is there to like about the New Wave cover.

It's a ****ing stencil of a cat.
Agreed. Ratatat - Classics is a better cover.

[santi3hg]

My friend got this tatooed on him.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m161/fivemagics77/againstme-1.jpg

[Cliche]

http://www.againstme.net/img/fans/aero_macin.jpg

[Johnny Quest.]

That's one of the best tattoos on that section, the one that is similar to that is so poor, i'd hate to have it on my body forever.

[SkaRobotArmy]

thats a solid tatoo.

[AndreTheHyena]

I once considered an Against Me! tattoo. I've considered a lot of tattoos. And yet I end up getting ones that are spur-of-the-moment and stupid.

I liked that video of AM! on Letterman. I like "Stop". I like the new album.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I think Stop is kind of awesome for the kitsch factor. I go back and forth on this one though.

I thought for a while about getting AM! tattooed really small on the inside of my wrist. I might still do that. I'm not into hugely visible tattoos.

[Scuba_Steve]

getting any band tattooed on you is pretty dumb IMO.

I could see maybe a lyric or something that means alot to you, but not a band name or logo.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

But if you grow out of a band enough to hate having their name tattooed on you, couldn't you grow out of a band's lyrics enough to hate having it tattooed on you? Or is it dumb for some other reason?

[thepo]

I think Stop is kind of awesome for the kitsch factor. I go back and forth on this one though.

I thought for a while about getting AM! tattooed really small on the inside of my wrist. I might still do that. I'm not into hugely visible tattoos.

Dude, totally go for a Mountain Goats tattoo also if you haven't already. I loved a lot of Against Me!'s lyrics, but John Darnielle totally destroys them.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Dude, totally go for a Mountain Goats tattoo also if you haven't already. I loved a lot of Against Me!'s lyrics, but John Darnielle totally destroys them.

Agreed. I was thinking maybe AM! on one wrist, tMG on the other. That'd be fecking swe't.

[Scuba_Steve]

But if you grow out of a band enough to hate having their name tattooed on you, couldn't you grow out of a band's lyrics enough to hate having it tattooed on you? Or is it dumb for some other reason?

at least if you grew out of the lyrics you wouldnt be permanently advertising a band on you skin.

[AndreTheHyena]

Lyric tattoos I've considered:
"There's a joy in all I can see" (AM!, of course)

"Both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away" (Son Volt)

"I see a darkness" (Bonnie 'Prince' Billy)

I'd still get any of those.

[Henrik]

That Son Volt Tatoo would be pretty huge.

[AndreTheHyena]

I'd probably get it as a border or a frame to another piece.

[obese_breasts]

I saw AM! yesterday, and there was a full on stage invasion during "Walking is Still Honest" I found myself next to Tom at his mic during a chorus. It was awesome.

[Liebensaft]

Yeah, their shows still rule most of the time.

[Johnny Quest.]

They're touring the UK in October, the date near me is at a pretty small venue, but i expect it to be packed. I've missed the last couple of gigs i've wanted to see (Set Your Goals, Converge among others) because of stupid reasons, if i miss this one i'll be pissed.

[Henrik]

I'm going to see them at an awesome venue!

If it sucks it can only be the band's fault :)

[obese_breasts]

Last time I saw them was in a tiny cramped club with only 1 window and it was ****ing amazing.

[mullets suk]

if i got an against me tattoo (or any tat for that matter) i would just do initials or something. so A[lightning bolt]M!

[SkaRobotArmy]

yea, i've seen some pretty badas's band tatoos but i still don't think i would get one. generally the coolest are tiger army and dropkick murphy's that i have seen. AM! could be solid though too, but i would more likely get a lyric

[Liebensaft]

I don't have any immediate interest in a tattoo, but if I were to get one, and I decided on Against Me! lyrics for it, I'd have a hell of a time trying to choose what I wanted. That and it'd have to be relatively short. I don't know how many lines of theirs I can boil down to one small phrase that I like enough to have drawn on me forever.

[mullets suk]

http://www.againstme.net/am.php/fans/imagefullw/fan_image_we_laugh_at_danger/ as long as i never get something like that i'll be happy.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

im thinking of getting the two people from crime to remember or to forget tattoo so that it symbols my love for the album and that era not the band as a whole im not sure

[Cliche]

I just thought of the absolutely perfect Against Me! tattoo.


"If It doesn't matter now, than it never really did."

From The Politics of Starving.

Not only because it's an awesome Against Me! song/lyric, but because even if you don't like Against Me! when your older, it still has lots of relevance.

[Flagjacket]

You mean like so you can look at that tattoo when you're old and go "oh that's true because I hate that band"

[SkaRobotArmy]

no, because it still holds true no matter what you listen to when your old.

[Flagjacket]

You mean like so you can look at that tattoo when you're old and go "oh that's true because I hate that band"

quoted for truth

[Johnny Quest.]

I just thought of the absolutely perfect Against Me! tattoo.


"If It doesn't matter now, than it never really did."

From The Politics of Starving.

Not only because it's an awesome Against Me! song/lyric, but because even if you don't like Against Me! when your older, it still has lots of relevance.

If you're gonna get that tattooed, make sure it says 'THEN it never really did'

You don't want to have a grammar error on your body forever.

[Cliche]

Yeah, my bad.

But yeah, I wouldn't get it on me anyways. I don't like tattoos.

[AIRIC]

I've never seen a user suck himself off mroe than flagjacket.

[Liebensaft]

I've never seen a user suck himself off mroe than flagjacket.

Hahahahaha.

[Flagjacket]

I've never seen a user suck himself off mroe than flagjacket.

I wouldn't have time to post on a messageboard if I could put my dick in my mouth.

[Cliche]

So I just got this for the Against Me! video I uploaded:


"#99 - Most Linked (This Week) - Music"

[Jessizzle]

I've never seen a user suck himself off mroe than flagjacket.

morelike fagjacket lol right erick??

[Cliche]

New Wave (Acoustic)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lpszul

Animal (Acoustic)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/40sfvs

[tom79]

Just got back from the Buffalo show. Awesome. Pretty good setlist, everything was good.

[Microwave meals & ideals]

Thank you very much, Cliche.

[Gnarmageddon]

Seeing AM! tomorrow night with Matt Dondero. It's going to be f'ucking good.

Also, speaking of tattoos, I've decided I am going to get the D. Boon and Watt faces from Buzz or Howl on my legs or arms. Haven't decided yet.

[tom79]

You mean David Dondero. When he started playing yesterday not a lot of people were there yet, and he broke his string on the first song, but he was good. I should get one of his albums sometime. Shoulda bought one there...

[Cliche]

You mean David Dondero. When he started playing yesterday not a lot of people were there yet, and he broke his string on the first song, but he was good. I should get one of his albums sometime. Shoulda bought one there...


Do you know anything about the October 1st show in Toronto?

[tom79]

Do you know anything about the October 1st show in Toronto.

I've read it's 20 bucks at The Guvernment

http://www.hob.com/tickets/eventdetail.asp?eventid=48174

I'd like to go see them again.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i'd pay $20. are they on sale already?

[tom79]

Ticketmaster

[Cliche]

Yeah, They went on sale on the 25th, and I ordered my tickets first day.

It's just that they haven't put the show on their site, or their Myspace. So I don't quite know what to think.

New Wave (Acoustic)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lpszul

Animal (Acoustic)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/40sfvs


Bringing it to the last page!

[Gnarmageddon]

You mean David Dondero. When he started playing yesterday not a lot of people were there yet, and he broke his string on the first song, but he was good. I should get one of his albums sometime. Shoulda bought one there...
Err yeah, my bad. No idea why I typed Matt.

[Cliche]

Err yeah, my bad. No idea why I typed Matt.


Well they're also touring with a band called Matt & Kim

[Liebensaft]

You mean David Dondero. When he started playing yesterday not a lot of people were there yet, and he broke his string on the first song, but he was good. I should get one of his albums sometime. Shoulda bought one there...

Holy ****. I'd kill to see David Dondero at the same show with AM!.

[Henrik]

New Wave (Acoustic)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lpszul

Animal (Acoustic)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/40sfvs
Thank you very much.

[Gnarmageddon]

Well they're also touring with a band called Matt & Kim
Yeah, they're playing tonight, too.

[holy_roller99]

i saw a couple months ago. awesome show. would kill to see them again.

[Gnarmageddon]

Oh my god. Last night was so amazing. David Dondero put me to sleep, Matt and Kim were like The Epoxies and Atom and His Package put together, and AM! tore it up so hard. I figured they would just play Thrash Unreal like 53 times in a row, but they had a really good mix of older and newer stuff. It was the first show I've been to where everyone yelling and singing along was louder than the music being played.

[Cliche]

Oh my god. Last night was so amazing. David Dondero put me to sleep, Matt and Kim were like The Epoxies and Atom and His Package put together, and AM! tore it up so hard. I figured they would just play Thrash Unreal like 53 times in a row, but they had a really good mix of older and newer stuff. It was the first show I've been to where everyone yelling and singing along was louder than the music being played.


I've heard that the played Impact! the night before last, did you get anything sweet like that?

[Henrik]

Damn Impact must be sweet to see live. Or **** Stroll just to say that you've heard it live and plus it's an awesome song.


Have they ever played Y'all Don't Wanna Step To Dis live?

[Brewing Up With]

The oldest song I've seen them play live was Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% at the Triplerock in Minneapolis. Everyone went f'ucking crazy when they started playing that as an encore. That was easily the best show I've ever been to because Tom was actually screaming instead of singing with a deep raspy voice that he's been doing a lot lately.

I'm going to see them in October I think. I'm on a foreign study abroad program in Austria now and thought that I wouldn't get to see any of the bands I like that were going on fall tours. Against Me! are coming to Vienna in October, so I'm pretty pumped. Hopefully I can go.

[SkaRobotArmy]

thats sick, is TO sold out yet?
also, theres a ton of awesome music in austria\germany touring right now you should look into it.

[tom79]

They played What We Worked For as the first song of the encore on the 7th and that was awesome.

I hope the TO show isn't sold out yet. I bought my tickets at the door in Buffalo and they said they had tons left, though there will probably be more people in Toronto.

[Henrik]

I just got the "We are Never Going Home" dvd a couple of weeks ago and the Shot Stroll live version on there sounds freaking awesome!


The oldest song I've seen them play live was Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% at the Triplerock in Minneapolis. Everyone went f'ucking crazy when they started playing that as an encore. That was easily the best show I've ever been to because Tom was actually screaming instead of singing with a deep raspy voice that he's been doing a lot lately.
.
Really? You are aware that RAR is older than The Disco Before The Breakdown ep right?

[AndreTheHyena]

I saw them play an acoustic set at Vintage Vinyl a few years back, and they played a song from Crime, but I can't recall which.

[Brewing Up With]

I just got the "We are Never Going Home" dvd a couple of weeks ago and the Shot Stroll live version on there sounds freaking awesome!



Really? You are aware that RAR is older than The Disco Before The Breakdown ep right?

Well s'hit, I'm totally wrong then. I thought The Disco Before The Breakdown was a year older or so...It's still a song they don't play very often at least...

My logic was very very off in that post about the oldest song I've seen... I realised that RAR, Those anarcho Punks, Walking is still honest, and I Still Love You Julie are all on the Acoustic EP or Crime EP. Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% is just a great song that they don't play very often and that just popped into my head when I wrote before.

[Flagjacket]

thank god against Me Songs between RAR and ATEC are still good.

[mullets suk]

The oldest song I've seen them play live was Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% at the Triplerock in Minneapolis. Everyone went f'ucking crazy when they started playing that as an encore.

when i went to see them they played **** stroll. it sucks though cause i didnt know the song:angry:, not many other people did either.

[Brain Toad]

I listened to New Wave and was very bored. I liked most of SFAFC as a general rock album and Holy **** is one of my top AM! songs, so I don't have an aversion to their new stuff. But New Wave was just full of the same things as before. More lyrics about selling out, really bad attempts at humor/irony or whatever the hell White People for Peace was supposed to be. The actual music was alright, but the lyrics were crap all the way through.

[Cliche]

I saw them play an acoustic set at Vintage Vinyl a few years back, and they played a song from Crime, but I can't recall which.


Did it happen to have this setlist?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9057/picture4xs3.png

[Gnarmageddon]

I've heard that the played Impact! the night before last, did you get anything sweet like that?
Unfortunately, no. They played just about everything from RAR, though. They were on for an hour.

[AndreTheHyena]

Did it happen to have this setlist?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9057/picture4xs3.png

Maybe? I really can't remember. I'd like to think that they played "Impact", though.

[Henrik]

Does anyone have any live old live bootlegs from before 2002 besides "Live at C.O.R.E", which by the way is a freaking awesome bootleg!?

[Cliche]

Does anyone have any live old live bootlegs from before 2002 besides "Live at C.O.R.E", which by the way is a freaking awesome bootleg!?



Other than C.O.R.E., my oldest one is this:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4802/picture1lp8.png

[AndreTheHyena]

Did it happen to have this setlist?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9057/picture4xs3.png

So, you have this in mp3 form? I'd like to get that from you.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

The oldest song I've seen them play live was Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% at the Triplerock in Minneapolis. Everyone went f'ucking crazy when they started playing that as an encore. That was easily the best show I've ever been to because Tom was actually screaming instead of singing with a deep raspy voice that he's been doing a lot lately.

I would f'ucking kill to see that.

[Cliche]

I would f'ucking kill to see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ndM2Sx5LU

That's a video of them playing it acoustically not too long ago.

So, you have this in mp3 form? I'd like to get that from you.

Yeah, it's in MP3. I'll upload it to Sendspace for you guys in a bit...

edit:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ukgpkk

[Henrik]

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

[nitzguy]

oldest one i think i've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16_qemDE3rU

[Microwave meals & ideals]

Thanks as well Cliche, you are a legend.

[Brewing Up With]

I would f'ucking kill to see that.

That was just last April. They played with Fake Problems and the Riverboat Gamblers. Too bad you didn't get to go man...

[Cliche]

Yeah, they played 35% when I saw them in March, hopefully they play Disco or something off of Crime when I see them next month.

And Microwave meals & ideals, thanks!

[Jessizzle]

Pat yer not on slsk, so im gonna ask you here!!

so umm do you know anyone who could possibly lend me sound equipment??

because i know you want to see BTMI just as much as i do...

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

That was just last April. They played with Fake Problems and the Riverboat Gamblers. Too bad you didn't get to go man...

I was in f'ucking France for that show. You wouldn't believe how pissed I was when I found out I'd be missing it. If I remember correctly, I played like a thirty minute AM! medley, completely breaking my voice for a while. I considered skipping going to France but figured since they'd be coming back in a month it wouldn't be worth it. Now I'm thinking it would have been totally worth it.

EDIT: Coming to First Ave 11/23 with W/IFS! F'uck yes! This is gonna rule!

[Cliche]

Pat yer not on slsk, so im gonna ask you here!!

so umm do you know anyone who could possibly lend me sound equipment??

because i know you want to see BTMI just as much as i do...

Not anyone that comes to mind... did you find a venue yet?

I was in f'ucking France for that show. You wouldn't believe how pissed I was when I found out I'd be missing it. If I remember correctly, I played like a thirty minute AM! medley, completely breaking my voice for a while. I considered skipping going to France but figured since they'd be coming back in a month it wouldn't be worth it. Now I'm thinking it would have been totally worth it.

EDIT: Coming to First Ave 11/23 with W/IFS! F'uck yes! This is gonna rule!

Yeah, they've just announced a bunch of dates with World/Inferno,I really wish they were coming back to Toronto with them, that would be sweet.

[Henrik]

I’m seeing Against Me! October 8th and it's just been announced that their support for the gig will be: Future of the Left (UK) and Steriogram (NZ).

I've never heard of any of the bands yet.

[Cliche]

Lucky you, they still haven't announced who their playing with in Toronto.

[AIRIC]

Closest they're coming is four hours like usual.

[Ross]

Seeing them October 27th in Leeds, can't wait.

Hopefully they won't stick to New Wave so much like they did at Leeds festival.

[Jessizzle]

Yeah pat, im gonna go with the skate shop.. im almost positive i'll have sound equipment.

you're gonna come right?? make lots and lots of people come..

[Cliche]

Of course I'll be there! I know Fat Kyle will want to come too. Did you call the skate shop?

[Jessizzle]

Yep, the thing is its 300 upfront in order to save the spot, so im gonna try and find time friday to go up and make the deposit..

[SkaRobotArmy]

what are you doing at the skate shop?

[Jessizzle]

DAN you have to come to my BOMB THE MUSIC INDUSTRY show? okay cool?

[Flagjacket]

You guys are like Jon and Eran but nowhere near as bad.

[Cliche]

JESSICA!!!!

We might be able to get BTMI! a spot with The 3 Tards and FCO the same night at The Kathedral.

Get my email from Alicia.

[Cliche]

Okay jess, John Tard has put BTMI! on the bill for September 22nd at the Kathedral. Their playing with FCO and 3Tards and I assume some other local talent.

Actually, here's the flyer:

http://www.the3tards.com/images/flyers/sept222007.jpg

[SkaRobotArmy]

DAN you have to come to my BOMB THE MUSIC INDUSTRY show? okay cool?

you're booking them at a skate shop?

[Cliche]

Not anymore, they were going to play at the Adrift skatepark, but now they're playing at The Kathedral on the 22nd.

[Jessizzle]

what the hell.. i almost got everything confiremd...

iv worked like crazy the past three days to make this work..

[Angry Balled Fists!]

i cant even be arsed to see against me! play really ill just be dissapointed.

[Gnarmageddon]

Their live show is nowhere near as disappointing as their studio albums. Not going to see them would be a shame.

[Jessizzle]

Aaah, BTMI said they would rather play my show, i rock..

Jess 1 John Tard 0..

no kidding i love john

[Henrik]

Their live show is nowhere near as disappointing as their studio albums. Not going to see them would be a shame.
This is very true!

[Cliche]

Aaah, BTMI said they would rather play my show, i rock..

Jess 1 John Tard 0..

no kidding i love john


Alright, that's cool too. I just figured it would make everything easier having them playing a bigger show and whatnot.

But dammit, that means I need to find someone to go, because Kyle for some reason would rather see 3Tards...

[Jessizzle]

uum i talked to marie after school and she wants to come.. so marie alicia, and im sure sara would come..

what the helll pat get on slsk so our lives are not so public.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i would rather them play themselves though, there are already SO many bands on that bill.

who is playing with AM! at the guvernment?

[AndreTheHyena]

Yeah, it's in MP3. I'll upload it to Sendspace for you guys in a bit...

edit:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ukgpkk

Awesome. I hope all the banter is included. Tom talked about hanging out in Springfield, where I live, when he was growing up.

[obese_breasts]

2nd to last time I saw them they played Impact and Disco Before the Breakdown, it was ****ing epic.

[asdf]

Last time I saw them they played that as one song for the encore, and it was great. Probaby the highlight of the show (as the show had just a bit too many new songs)

[Angry Balled Fists!]

i saw them play impact as an encore like just after sfafc came out.

[Microwave meals & ideals]

I don't suppose anyone has Tom's first demo do they? And if so would they like to share it please?

[Cliche]

i would rather them play themselves though, there are already SO many bands on that bill.

who is playing with AM! at the guvernment?

So far, no one I talk to knows.


I don't suppose anyone has Tom's first demo do they? And if so would they like to share it please?

I've got it, I can upload it a little later.

[Liebensaft]

They've never played "Impact" when I've seen them, but I'd very much for them to do that.

[Cliche]

Alright, I'm uploading the demo tape right now. While I'm at it, does anybody have any requests?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/310/picture2wu0.png

[Scuba_Steve]

I cant seem to find the "12 EP anywhere on soulseek at a decent speed, so if you could upload that I would love it.

[Cliche]

I don't suppose anyone has Tom's first demo do they? And if so would they like to share it please?

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6s30p1

I cant seem to find the "12 EP anywhere on soulseek at a decent speed, so if you could upload that I would love it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0738p5

[Scuba_Steve]

merci beaucoup

[AIRIC]

Finally they're coming here. Hasn't really hit me yet but I'm excited. Everyone start posting set lists.

[mullets suk]

Alright, I'm uploading the demo tape right now. While I'm at it, does anybody have any requests?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/310/picture2wu0.png

would rep you a little more, but i need to spread some around first. thanks for the downloads.

edit: do you have bastards of young?

[Flagjacket]

Cliche better watch out before Tom Gabel smashes his head against his computer desk for pirating his music

[Cliche]

would rep you a little more, but i need to spread some around first. thanks for the downloads.

edit: do you have bastards of young?



Yep, it's off of the tribute to the Replacements. There's also a live version from the New Wave DVD.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/85xtq9

[Microwave meals & ideals]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6s30p1



http://www.sendspace.com/file/0738p5

Once again, thank you very very much!

[Cliche]

Not a problem!

Does anyone know where I can find all the pressings/colour info of Reinventing Axl Rose?

[Scuba_Steve]

Not a problem!

Does anyone know where I can find all the pressings/colour info of Reinventing Axl Rose?

NIR 129 - AGAINST ME! "Reinventing Axl Rose" - LP/CD
1st Pressing: 400 Blue, 660 Red (4/02)
2nd Pressing: 550 Crusty Grey (7/02)
3rd Pressing: 200 Grey, 140 Gold, 135 Green, 74 Transluscent Blue, 1 Gold/Blue splotchy (11/02)
4th Pressing: 285 White/Black split color, 767 Black (2/03)
5th Pressing: 307 Root Beer, 706 Grey w/red and silver labels (5/03)
6th Pressing: 550 Clear, 518 Pink/White split w/ silver and white labels (3/04)
7th Pressing: 550 White, 550 Orange w/black and white labels (10/04)
8th Pressing: 495 Bubblegum Pink (w/red and silver labels), 200 Dark Red (w/black and silver labels), 305 Black (w/black and silver labels) (there might be a few of the 8th pressing with variations on the label color... it's the luck of the draw. Go figure!)
9th Pressing: 550 Mint Green, 550 Dark Opaque Purple (9/15/05)
10th Pressing: 550 Opaque Baby Yellow, 550 Opaque Baby Blue (2/24/06)
11th Pressing: 29 Light Grey, 156 Dark Pink, 181 Purple, 159 Dark Purple (12/5/2006)
12th Pressing: 508 Clear Orange (1/5/2007)
13th Pressing: 550 Purple (3/20/2007)
14th Pressing: 200 Swampwater Green (6/1/2007)
15th Pressing: 452 Cloudy white, 63 Cloudy Coke Bottle (7/10/2007)
16th Pressing: 1,000 Orange (8/1/2007)

http://www.noidearecords.com/

[Cliche]

So would you say this is Mint Green, or Swampwater Green?

http://i15.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/b6/b9/a15a_1.JPG

[Scuba_Steve]

I'm thinking mint due to the white-ish splotches on it.


I think swamp green is darker, hold on and let me see if any of my No Idea Records match either colours


edit: nah, I only have dark green.


How many shades could they possibly have?

[Henrik]

Thank you so much Cliche!!!

[thepo]

My RAR record is pink and awesome.

[tom79]

Thanks Cliche, I needed to hear Tom's Demo tape.

Just bought my tix for the Toronto show. :)

[Scuba_Steve]

I hate that its in toronto.

and on a monday.

[Gnarmageddon]

Thanks for Tom's first demo, Cliche.

[AIRIC]

Tom's demo isn't enjoyable at all.

[Cliche]

I hate that its in toronto.

and on a monday.


It's not that bad for me, I have my G2 test the next day, so I have it off of school anyhow.

Tom's demo isn't enjoyable at all.

If you think that was bad, you should hear his old band, The Adversaries. Even I hated it.

[obese_breasts]

That's because he probably started the Adversaries when he was younger than anyone here

[Henrik]

I didn't even know that he was in a band before Against Me!

[SkaRobotArmy]

anybody have some of that stuff?

[Cliche]

I don't on my Harddrive right now, but I'll download it again.

[Flagjacket]

everything before RAR is stupid. I'm assuming Acoustic EP comes from after RAR came out I'm not clear on the release dates.

[AIRIC]

Acoustic came out before I'm pretty sure and Crime is awesome.

[tom79]

everything before RAR is stupid. I'm assuming Acoustic EP comes from after RAR came out I'm not clear on the release dates.
You think Crime is 'stupid'?

[Flagjacket]

Yeah I don't like it.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

That just doesn't make sense.

[mullets suk]

everything before RAR is stupid. I'm assuming Acoustic EP comes from after RAR came out I'm not clear on the release dates.

i really like some of the stuff before RAR. "All Or Nothing" is my favorite song on the 12 inch. I am citizen, and the recording of walking is till honest are really good.

[tom79]

All or Nothing is probably my favorite from the 12 inch too. All of it's good but sound quality brings it down a bit, though I was kinda expecting that.

[Flagjacket]

That just doesn't make sense.

I'm sorry you can't comprehend my opinions?

[Henrik]

The Acoustic Ep came out in 2001 originally, but that was only as a 7' with the first 4 songs on it.
Later in 2003 they reissued it as cd and then they put the last two songs on it. i don't know if the last two songs were recorded in 2001 or 2003 though.

RAR came out in 2002.
As did The Disco Before The Breakdown which I've been completely in love with for the last two months.