The Official Against Me! Thread

[Scuba_Steve]

what else is new?:rolleyes:

[SkaRobotArmy]

kids all over the internet are critiquing EVERYthing. duh.

[Henrik]

How is it compared to SFAFC?

I know I could just download it myself and see but I kind of promised myself that I would buy every Against Me! realease.

[RetiredAt21]

Against Me! was a fad.

[Anxious]

Against Me! was a fad.


In SHARP contrast, the new Meat Puppets album is really ****ing good. Lets see, they've been making killer records since the 80's in a similar vein as Against Me, but are way more creative and interesting than they could ever be. It was hilarious when the regs in here went crazy over them and then sold out like I knew they would.

[Flagjacket]

I never liked the Meat Puppets, will you commend me on my commitment?

[Anxious]

Listen to Meat Puppets II and say that with a straight face.

[Anarcho Poser]

I want to hear this album. but noone with it seems to be on soulseek. sadface.

[RetiredAt21]

In SHARP contrast, the new Meat Puppets album is really ****ing good. Lets see, they've been making killer records since the 80's in a similar vein as Against Me, but are way more creative and interesting than they could ever be. It was hilarious when the regs in here went crazy over them and then sold out like I knew they would.

Ok..?

[Liebensaft]

I have new Against Me! on soulseek. I'd say it's the same as SFAFC, at least in terms of how good it is compared to their other albums.

What's the name of the new Meat Puppets and where can I get it?

[Anxious]

Rise to Your Knees is the new Meat Puppets and its only available on itunes right now. Or slsk.

[Anarcho Poser]

I have new Against Me! on soulseek.

name?

[Liebensaft]

name?

Dr. Funk

Go to the room allthehubub.

[Anarcho Poser]

This album is almost decent if you listen to it at 1.5 speed.

The music doesn't flow like it used too. The choruses seem out of place, and the verses sound kind of choppy, short, and unfinished.

Stop is pretty much a garbage song any way you look at it. It's more repetitive than We Laugh at Danger, and not nearly as good.

Anyone know who's in Borne on the FM Waves?

[Henrik]

Their video for White People For Peace is available on their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/againstme

I don't get it.

[Cliche]

Anyone know who's in Borne on the FM Waves?

Tegan Quin from Tegan and Sara.



Their video for White People For Peace is available on their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/againstme

I don't get it.

The two sides represent warring factions. They are portrayed as sports teams playing in a stadium to show that media interest in the war is basically used as entertainment for people ,and that interests in it dont go much beyond death tolls (thus the little sports counter thing in one shot). The cheerleaders represent blind patriotism cheering on war without really questioning the violence or reasons behind it. The cheerleaders bloody mouth even goes one step further to show that they actually ENJOY the violence and are cheering for more. The fat guy is a corporate nationalist who dictates the war to the soldiers in order for his own monetary profit. The weird acoustic guitar playing guy represents the individual who is against the war. He cant do anything (he is trapped in a dirty bathroom with a guitar) and is forced to watch it go on. He plays and screams as loud as he can, but the war just keeps going. He is trapped for good.



Oh, and for those that didn't catch it, this is Gabel:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/patrickiscool/Picture2-11.png

[asdf]

I'm only on song number 6 but I'm going to just say that this album sucks.

At Least with SFAFC there were three songs I liked to varying degrees.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Tegan Quin from Tegan and Sara.





The two sides represent warring factions. They are portrayed as sports teams playing in a stadium to show that media interest in the war is basically used as entertainment for people ,and that interests in it dont go much beyond death tolls (thus the little sports counter thing in one shot). The cheerleaders represent blind patriotism cheering on war without really questioning the violence or reasons behind it. The cheerleaders bloody mouth even goes one step further to show that they actually ENJOY the violence and are cheering for more. The fat guy is a corporate nationalist who dictates the war to the soldiers in order for his own monetary profit. The weird acoustic guitar playing guy represents the individual who is against the war. He cant do anything (he is trapped in a dirty bathroom with a guitar) and is forced to watch it go on. He plays and screams as loud as he can, but the war just keeps going. He is trapped for good.



Oh, and for those that didn't catch it, this is Gabel:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/patrickiscool/Picture2-11.png

i like it when intelligent people come along, please don't leave us.

that video is pretty sweet i think, i guess we're the orange guys eh?
also, it sounds way better than the live version, that was awful.


i don't expect to change anybody's mind, i haven't even heard the album yet. but i think i'm going to generally agree with this guy cause i liked SFAFC.

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=247750

[asdf]

It's sad that I thought Americans Abroad was the best song on this album.

[Cliche]

i like it when intelligent people come along, please don't leave us.

that video is pretty sweet i think, i guess we're the orange guys eh?
also, it sounds way better than the live version, that was awful.


i don't expect to change anybody's mind, i haven't even heard the album yet. but i think i'm going to generally agree with this guy cause i liked SFAFC.

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=247750


If you haven't heard the album yet, but you liked Searching, I'll be willing to bet that you will enjoy New Wave. I do disagree with you about White People being terrible live though, I rather enjoyed it.

When it comes to live versions, I think Borne on the FM waves is better live, with James singing Tegans part. Oh, and if you're going by that guys review, ignore what he says about the song "Stop". I'm a huge AM! fan, and I have to say that Stop is my least favourite song. Which is saying a lot, considering the fact that before, I didn't have a least favourite AM! song.

Overall, I'd probably give the album a 7.5/10. It would have been an 8/10 if they released Up The Cuts as the acoustic version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ycPql-GIk

[asdf]

I do like up the cuts better acoustic.

But I still don't really like it.

[Brewing Up With]

I agree with the review that it works to not compare it to the older releases. I'm still trying to find a copy of the album on soulseek, so I don't have a complete say on the album yet, but I've heard about half of the songs.

[Rise Me Up]

i have it. room; allthehubub
name; chairman.

(include the period)

[Brewing Up With]

i have it. room; allthehubub
name; chairman.

(include the period)

alright, thanks

[Cliche]

If you still can't find it on Slsk, you can check out mine, my username is Patron, and I have every AM! release there is (I think).

Also, if that doesn't work, here you go:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GLSA2PPS

[Anarcho Poser]

After a few listens, I've decided the album is.... ok. With the exception of Stop and Animal, it's not miserable.

White People for Peace and Borne on the FM waves are decent songs, at least.

[Rise Me Up]

I think Ocean is a good song.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i only intended to download a few songs, but everytime i hear a new one, i want another one. so i've got the whole thing now, i likes it.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

The beginning of Up The Cuts sounds way way way too much like the beginning of Those Anarcho Punks... (Punx? I never could remember.)

[SkaRobotArmy]

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=VRFCbDIKm28&NR=1

[Liebensaft]

The more I listen to the new album, the more I like it. I haven't listened to SFAFC in forever, but from what I remember, I like this one way more. The first like...5 songs or so are getting to the point where I think they're pretty good. After that it is meh, but not terrible.

[DFelon204409]

Ya. I'm in the middle of my review of New Wave right now. Tracks 2-4 really grew on me, but the rest of the album is lacking. What happened?

[Cocaine]

What happened?

Searching For A Former Clarity happened.

I'm just editing my review now.

[an0therface]

I'm right in to Thrash Unreal, and surprisingly, considering how much radio play it gets, White People... hasn't got annoying like some of the SFAFC songs that got the same amount of radio time.

[albert_bass]

Still haven't listened to this but a friend told me it sucked at first then it came out as a pretty neat album.

[SantaDuJuan]

Searching For A Former Clarity happened.

I'm just editing my review now.

Haha rough

[SkaRobotArmy]

this is good! everybody's coming around!

[tom79]

I'm right in to Thrash Unreal, and surprisingly, considering how much radio play it gets, White People... hasn't got annoying like some of the SFAFC songs that got the same amount of radio time.
I still havean't heard one AM! on a radio, but maybe its location. I'm kinda looking forward to the new album. They're on Conan tomorow too, probably will watch

[DFelon204409]

Searching For A Former Clarity happened.

I'm just editing my review now.

Hurr yup your slo

[Liebensaft]

I saw Against Me! play on one of the late night shows before. It was lame. All they did was play the "Condoleezza" song, and I think they started playing "Don't Lose Touch" as the show ended.

[DFelon204409]

When was this?

[Anarcho Poser]

I think that was jimmy kimmel some time last year.

[Liebensaft]

Oh yeah, Jimmy Kimmel is what it was. It was pretty recently. I'd say no more than like four or five months ago.

edit:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=qXuMQ2iHKbg

[DFelon204409]

Jimmy Kimmel gets good acts like Thrice and Against Me! because they're the newest late night show and can't throw down money on crap bands yet.

[DFelon204409]

Man that took a long time to wait for. My review is in:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review_12730

Obviously better than Cocaine's review since I'm leet punx from 2002.

[Liebensaft]

The album's pretty decent. It's not like old Against Me!. As far as I can tell, nothing they produce anymore will be. A lot of people aren't going to like that. If they keep making music that's pretty cool, I'll listen to it. When it gets downright awful, I'll put on older albums. The biggest thing I can't understand is people disowning the band. Just because the last two albums have been drastically different, it doesn't mean every single recording before that wasn't awesome.

[asdf]

For me it's kind of right now I'm burned out on old Against Me! and just not interested in the new stuff. So temporarily, I'm not really listening to them.

[tom79]

ehh, listening to it now on myspace, I don't like it as much as I wanted to, but its decent. White People for Peace is a good song, but for only ten songs there isn't enough standout tracks to me. Hopefully it will grow on me.

[Brewing Up With]

Against Me!'s gonna be on Conan soon...

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Ordered New Wave yesterday to get the 7", which I imagine will be difficult to get ahold of otherwise. After listening to the album a couple times, it really isn't that bad. Obviously, compared to RAR or w/e, it's nothing, but it's an okay record.

[Cocaine]

Man that took a long time to wait for. My review is in:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review_12730

Obviously better than Cocaine's review since I'm leet punx from 2002.

:angry:

I was into them in 2002. Stop haterading.

[Pirate Satellite]

I'm sort of surprised to see people turning around and saying positive things about this album. I think it's laughably, irredeemably bad.

[Anarcho Poser]

I like the chorus to New Wave, it just doesn't fit with the rest of the song

And I think DFelon was right on with his review.

Right on.

[asdf]

I'm glad they didn't play "white people for peace" on Conan.

[Brewing Up With]

I'm glad they didn't play "white people for peace" on Conan.

Me too. They played surprisingly well on Conan actually.

[Brewing Up With]

I'm sort of surprised to see people turning around and saying positive things about this album. I think it's laughably, irredeemably bad.

I think people are just getting over Against Me! "selling out" and taking the album for what it is.

[Johnny Quest.]

Me too. They played surprisingly well on Conan actually.

What did they play?

[Flagjacket]

I think people are just getting over Against Me! "selling out" and taking the album for what it is.

It's not about them selling out it's about them getting progressively worse.

[Anarcho Poser]

What did they play?

condoleeza

[sink sink]

What did they play?
Thrash Unreal. i'm glad they played that song, I was expecting White People for Peace.

oh, and maybe it's just because I'm an indie fag, but Borne on the FM Waves is an awesome song.

[Anarcho Poser]

Oh. wrong talkshow. mah bad.

[Liebensaft]

Is there video of the Conan performance?

[tom79]

I saw it on youtube

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=WEWb32B8Z_Q

[SkaRobotArmy]

condoleeza

its called 'from her lips to gods ears' and\or 'the energizer' and is one of the best songs on that album, i don't know why everybodys hatin on it all the time.

[Anarcho Poser]

eh. it was called condoleeza on the stolen demo.

They're apparently playing on some show on Fuse.... nowish.

[blockhead]

I'm seeing Against Me! August 15th at a local bar.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I'm thinking of roadtripping to Des Moines on August 1st to see them. It's only like 3 hours away and they're headlining at a smaller venue than the one I saw them at with Mastodon in May.

[blockhead]

I was so excited when I realized they were playing in my area and in a small venue too. The tickets are also pretty cheap like $12.

[Cocaine]

I missed an Against Me! show in a really small club around the time As The Eternal Cowboy came out and I've regretted it ever since. I saw them a year later in a bigger venue and while it was still awesome, I really am pissed I missed the other one.

Go see 'em, especially if it's in a dive bar.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

In October of 05, I think, I saw them at a smallish venue but I only knew like 9 songs by them, only what they had for download on their site, so I didn't really get into it. When they toured with Alkaline Trio (last April, I think it was) they played this smallish (but still kinda big venue) and I stood out in the rain for 2-3 hours only to learn it's sold out. Have since taken to buying tickets in advance if I really need to be at a show. Then they came to a super small venue in April and I couldn't go cos I was in France. Seriously considered skipping France for it.

[Brewing Up With]

In October of 05, I think, I saw them at a smallish venue but I only knew like 9 songs by them, only what they had for download on their site, so I didn't really get into it. When they toured with Alkaline Trio (last April, I think it was) they played this smallish (but still kinda big venue) and I stood out in the rain for 2-3 hours only to learn it's sold out. Have since taken to buying tickets in advance if I really need to be at a show. Then they came to a super small venue in April and I couldn't go cos I was in France. Seriously considered skipping France for it.

I missed out on that show too, I was pissed.

I think it was at the Quest, that place burned down too...

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Did it burn down? I haven't been by there lately but last I heard they had a huge flood or something. I didn't like that place much.

[Lazybassplr56]

They were pretty good on Conan. He seems to like the band.

[SkaRobotArmy]

In October of 05, I think, I saw them at a smallish venue but I only knew like 9 songs by them, only what they had for download on their site, so I didn't really get into it. When they toured with Alkaline Trio (last April, I think it was) they played this smallish (but still kinda big venue) and I stood out in the rain for 2-3 hours only to learn it's sold out. Have since taken to buying tickets in advance if I really need to be at a show. Then they came to a super small venue in April and I couldn't go cos I was in France. Seriously considered skipping France for it.

don't make fun, but i made my family postpone our trip to florida by a week like two years ago so i could go to warped. The week we were originally supposed to go there was a huge hurricane that wiped out a bunch of s'hit and we JUST missed it. Then the day we were leaving, another big one was supposed to touch down the next day. I'm a hero! also, i didn't even end up going to warped...

[Brewing Up With]

Did it burn down? I haven't been by there lately but last I heard they had a huge flood or something. I didn't like that place much.

Maybe it was a flood... Now I'm not sure, but I think it burned down. I heard that somehwere. Either way the place is history now.

[me likes punk]

I'm thinking of roadtripping to Des Moines on August 1st to see them. It's only like 3 hours away and they're headlining at a smaller venue than the one I saw them at with Mastodon in May.


Where do you live?

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Minneapolis, MN.

[me likes punk]

Oh, I thought maybe you were from northern Iowa and just put Minn. as your location. i'm from Iowa, and I'm drunk as hell off a bottle of brandy.

Go midwesterners!

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Do a lot of Iowans like to pretend they're from MN? I think us Minnesotans would like to think so.

[Anarcho Poser]

I was just watching an interview with Tom and Warren, and they were talking about a tattoo they all got on a tour with Rise Against, None More Black, and Anti-Flag. I dunno when it was, but, minus Anti-Flag, that's damn near a perfect lineup as far as I'm concerned.

[asdf]

I saw them in 2004 without none more black but with rise against and anti-flag. It was a good show, even though it was actually my first introduction to against me! I really enjoyed their show.

[Lazybassplr56]

I saw them in 2004 without none more black but with rise against and anti-flag. It was a good show, even though it was actually my first introduction to against me! I really enjoyed their show.

I saw them for the first time on that same tour also.

[Bukowski]

This band called Murder by Death supported Against Me when I saw them. They sang about whisky, satan and girls, all with a dark country-folky sort of twist. They were not nearly as good as they should have been.

[Anarcho Poser]

Yeah I saw them with murder by death too. It was a kickass show.

Then I saw them again on the Fat Tour with Smoke or Fire, the Epoxies, and the Soviettes. It was a less kickass show.

[Cliche]

I'm listening to an audio rip of the New Wave dvd right now, they played most excellent. I'm very happy to learn that they also played Bastards Of Young, which for those who haven't heard, is awesome.

I'm uploading it to Megaupload right now, I'll post it here later today.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Yeah I saw them with murder by death too. It was a kickass show.

Then I saw them again on the Fat Tour with Smoke or Fire, the Epoxies, and the Soviettes. It was a less kickass show.

the fat tour sounds bitc'hin, how was it not good?

[Anarcho Poser]

Oh, it wasn't bad by any means. Just, relative to the first show, at which the only post-cowboy song they played was Joy as an encore, it wasn't as good. Smoke or Fire was excellent though.

[SkaRobotArmy]

jealous... oh so jealous...

[Cliche]

If anyone is interested:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9HIKI046

The audio of the live dvd.

[Cocaine]

If anyone is interested:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9HIKI046

The audio of the live dvd.

Rep'd. Thanks. :chug:

[Cliche]

Rep'd. Thanks. :chug:


Not a problem.

You guys all seem like pretty cool guys, so here's a shot of my Against Me! collection, I can upload any stuff that you guys want. Also, my soulseek name is Patron

The only problem with Soulseek is that sometimes the files don't download properly, so just keep pressing retry, and it will go eventually.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3030/picture1uv1.png

[obese_breasts]

I need to get in on the New Wave commentary and just say that I think it is a pretty good album especially when considered alone, not against their past. I like it.

[Liebensaft]

I heard Thrash Unreal on the satellite radio at work today (XM 47, Ethel). Then I changed the station to 43, XMU. They played two songs from The National in a row. It was a pretty good 10-or-so-minute stretch.

[Brewing Up With]

I think Thrash Unreal is a pretty good song. I just don't like the chorus.

[Liebensaft]

It kind of makes me wince when I hear it. It's tolerable though.

[asdf]

I like the chorus, I just don't like choruses in general. After actually reading the lyrics to that song, it fits. The main reason I can't get into against me!'s stuff from the last two albums is they just seem to follow the usual format when before they did not so often.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i heard 'don't lose touch' today on the edge (for those of you in southern ontario) thats. they mentioned the new album when it came out, but i haven't heard anything from it yet on the radio. i did buy it first day but haven't really listened to it much since i got the leaked and bought two better albums the same day.

[Brewing Up With]

Did any of you guys watch that DVD of Live At Key Club that came with the New Wave cd? I think they played a really really mediocre set.

[AndreTheHyena]

I just swung by to see what the word was on New Wave, actually. I heard about half of it at a party this weekend, and I kinda dug most of it. Has the serious hatin' already commenced?

[Anarcho Poser]

it seems to be more of a serious "meh" then serious hatin'.

[mullets suk]

saw against me with these arms are snakes(?) and mastadon. wierd line up and there was texas style metal heads (with leather cowboy hats and all). the set list for against me was amazing. The best show i have ever seen.

the dvd on new wave i dont really like, because theres not enough audience. half of an against me! show is audience singing.

[Cliche]

i heard 'don't lose touch' today on the edge (for those of you in southern ontario) thats. they mentioned the new album when it came out, but i haven't heard anything from it yet on the radio. i did buy it first day but haven't really listened to it much since i got the leaked and bought two better albums the same day.

Really? They played AM! on The Edge?

...hm.

[tom79]

When I listen to the radio I usually listen to the Edge. Still haven't heard any AM! on a radio though.

Anyway, new albums not that bad, Up the Cuts is my favorite.

[Lazybassplr56]

There playing them a lot out here. I don't mind, I'd rather hear Thrash Unreal over some shitty My Chemical Romance song.

[SkaRobotArmy]

its weird that thrash unreal seems to be the radio single but they released the video for white people for peace...

[Cliche]

Alright boys, I just uploaded a .zip of a video of AM! playing Thrash Unreal on Conan, as well as a rip of the New Wave B-side(off of the Thrash Unreal 7") You Must Be Willing.

Check it out here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LU5NGXGU

its weird that thrash unreal seems to be the radio single but they released the video for white people for peace...

Well there are 3 singles from New Wave, White People, Stop! and Thrash Unreal. So I guess they're just releasing all of them at the same time pretty much? I know that they're working on a video for Stop! right now.

[tom79]

Stop's a single? I mean its catchy...but along with Animal it is the worst on the album.

[SkaRobotArmy]

thats 4 singles. but i kinda liked stop, not single worthy, but i didn't not enjoy it.

[tom79]

White People for Peace, Stop, Thrash Unreal. Looked like 4 because he said the album title.

[Cliche]

Yeah, sorry about that. But I really wouldn't mind it if New Wave was a single, that's one of my favourite songs on the album.

[Anarcho Poser]

New Wave is ok, the chorus comes out of nowhere though. I don't think it flows at all.

[Flagjacket]

They play Against Me! at Hot Topic

[SkaRobotArmy]

it does trip a little, but it goes back to the verse really nicely?

[me likes punk]

They play Against Me! at Hot Topic

I thought the workers played their own music.

[Flagjacket]

I thought the workers played their own music.

That could be interpreted many ways but I choose to believe you meant that your Hot Topic features a live band at all hours which is totally awesome.

[me likes punk]

That could be interpreted many ways but I choose to believe you meant that your Hot Topic features a live band at all hours which is totally awesome.


I've talked to the people that work at the Hot Topic in my town. It would NOT be very aweome to watch them play music.

[Anarcho Poser]

I think he meant music of their choosing. like, their own CDs.

[me likes punk]

I think he meant music of their choosing. like, their own CDs.


He knows what I meant. He's just pretending that he doesn't have the same reasoning ability as us.

[Liebensaft]

Kevin, I'll be sure to give the people in Hot Topic a collection of modern pop-hip-hop cd's as well as a Latterman mix. That way I can ensure you will never enjoy music ever again.

[SkaRobotArmy]

rep.

[Flagjacket]

Kevin, I'll be sure to give the people in Hot Topic a collection of modern pop-hip-hop cd's as well as a Latterman mix. That way I can ensure you will never enjoy music ever again.

You are missing the part where I like Hot Topic.

I've talked to the people that work at the Hot Topic in my town. It would NOT be very aweome to watch them play music.

Mallmosh

[AIRIC]

wtf is this a band or something

[Angry Balled Fists!]

srsly hate this album.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

and tbh its hard not too compare it to their older stuff because it actually is a differnet band and sooooo much worse. even sfafc is like 10 times better than this.

[AndreTheHyena]

From what I've heard so far, I like the new one better than Searching....

[Liebensaft]

Yeah, this beats the hell out of SFAFC. And thankfully I haven't seen it for sale in Wal-Mart.

[mullets suk]

Yeah, this beats the hell out of SFAFC. And thankfully I haven't seen it for sale in Wal-Mart.

why are you in wal-mart in the first place.

this album is pretty good. it took me a few times to get in to it and theres a few songs i dont like (the ocean). overall its really cool. thrash and fm waves are the best songs imo. (on the album, not overall)

[Liebensaft]

I'm employed by Wal-Mart. I don't like saying I "work" there because I really don't. They also pay really well. For me they do, at least. The pay is the same when you're 35 and need to buy food to live.

[Anarcho Poser]

This new album is almost good.

I'm trying so hard to like it, and I almost do, there's just something missing, and I can't put my finger on it.

Maybe it's passion. I just don't feel it in this album. Thrash Unreal with a little more intensity and emotion would be an excellent song, I think.

[arrell]

Och, never heard of this band before.

Song recommendations, please?

[Anarcho Poser]

Those Anarcho Punx are Mysterious
Reinventing Axl Rose
Sink, Florida, Sink
Walking is Still Honest
Cavalier Eternal

But that's old stuff. Decent newer songs include:

Miami
Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners
How Low
Joy
Searching for a Former Clarity
Borne on the FM Waves

[Cliche]

Those Anarcho Punx are Mysterious
Reinventing Axl Rose
Sink, Florida, Sink
Walking is Still Honest
Cavalier Eternal

But that's old stuff. Decent newer songs include:

Miami
Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners
How Low
Joy
Searching for a Former Clarity
Borne on the FM Waves

I'd say that's a pretty good summary.

[arrell]

Those Anarcho Punx are Mysterious
Reinventing Axl Rose
Sink, Florida, Sink
Walking is Still Honest
Cavalier Eternal

But that's old stuff. Decent newer songs include:

Miami
Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners
How Low
Joy
Searching for a Former Clarity
Borne on the FM Waves

Cool, thanks a lot for that. I'll look into them.

[Brewing Up With]

If you want older stuff go for:

We Did It All For Don
Impact
Burn
Untitled

Or, just buy or download the two EP's, Reinventing Axl Rose, and ATEC

[Angry Balled Fists!]

why doesnt this album have like the only decent new song theyve done "exhaustion" or whatever from the dvd.

[mullets suk]

If you want older stuff go for:
We Did It All For Don
Impact
Burn
Untitled

i have a question about untitled. on my computer it calls it Armageddon. it seem like im the only one that knows it by that name. (i use WMP to get album info) anyone else know it by armageddon or know why?

[Brewing Up With]

why doesnt this album have like the only decent new song theyve done "exhaustion" or whatever from the dvd.

Do you mean the We're Never Going Home DVD?

[Anarcho Poser]

i have a question about untitled. on my computer it calls it Armageddon. it seem like im the only one that knows it by that name. (i use WMP to get album info) anyone else know it by armageddon or know why?

Their site has it listed as Armageddon.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I always called it Untitled. I always thought of Armageddon as a name fans came up with cos they didn't want to call it Untitled, like how some people call the Acoustic EP Jordan's First Choice

[Poverty]

If you want older stuff go for:

We Did It All For Don
Impact
Burn
Untitled

Or, just buy or download the two EP's, Reinventing Axl Rose, and ATEC

I always liked Ya'll Don't Wanna Step To Dis, and What We Worked For.
But Impact is by far my favorite song by them.


I think the new album is different, but only in sound.
They sound like they have their heart in this album, just like they did in SFAFC, ATEC, RAR, and Crime.
There sound has never been the exact same on every album, if you look closely the difference between each album isn't large, but when you compare SFAC to Crime, you can see the difference easily, they've progressed their sound each album.

As an actual anarchist, I haven't seen them "sell out".
Signing to a major label has nothing to do with selling out, it's when you start placing ads for all sorts of companies on their web page, or on their tours, that is selling out.
And until I see them start endorsing products, they haven't sold out.
Maybe they're singing about different problems now, but it's still Against Me!.

[Anarcho Poser]

They sound like they have their heart in this album, just like they did in SFAFC, ATEC, RAR, and Crime.
You think so? I feel like that's all this album is missing.

it's when you start placing ads for all sorts of companies on their web page, or on their tours, that is selling out.
And until I see them start endorsing products, they haven't sold out.

...They were on Warped last year, and they're playing Lollapalooza this year.

[mullets suk]

I always liked Ya'll Don't Wanna Step To Dis, and What We Worked For.
But Impact is by far my favorite song by them.


i really hope when i see them in about a they play impact or what we worked for. i was never to fond of what we worked for.

...They were on Warped last year,

hey at lest .25 cents of every ticket goes to charity.:rolleyes:

[Anarcho Poser]

Hey, I'm not complaining. If the fat cats are gunna sponsor something, it may as well be music. 'cause let's be honest, who doesn't love music?


Other than metalheads.

[Flagjacket]

Actually I'd rate the metalheads at the very top for dedication to music. You don't see punx burning down banks and slicing up cops.

[Anarcho Poser]

it was a metal =/= music joke :upset:

[Poverty]

You think so? I feel like that's all this album is missing.


...They were on Warped last year, and they're playing Lollapalooza this year.

Tom expressed his feelings on the ads all over Warped in an interview somewhere, and I think he said they weren't gonna go on Warped again in it.
Although, he did say they wouldn't go on Warped ever once, but did anyway..sooo..

As for Lollapalooza, I had no clue they were going on that..

[Anarcho Poser]

I think if I were in a band, this would be the most amazing feeling in the world.

No, I know it would be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDadez9mqI&mode=related&search=

[AIRIC]

Yupp. Too bad that wont ever happen again at an Against Me! show. New album is awful. I hate this band.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

im pretty much with eric.
i can listen to the first 3 songs or so but after that i projectile vomit.

[Cliche]

Apparently The Edge (102.1) in Toronto is playing the new Against Me! stuff.

Not two weeks ago, my sister made fun of me telling me that Against Me! was "gay", and now she listens to Thrash Unreal. So, get ready for a bunch of people at their concerts who only want them to play singles...

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

When I saw them in May, there were two girls wearing those huge sunglasses who got super excited when they started playing Don't Lose Touch. I was pretty pissed.

[Cliche]

Ah yes, the big sunglasses.

[Liebensaft]

I got these gigantic really dark blind person looking glasses from work. I love them.

[Brewing Up With]

When I saw them in May, there were two girls wearing those huge sunglasses who got super excited when they started playing Don't Lose Touch. I was pretty pissed.

ooooh man that sucks

[mullets suk]

When I saw them in May, there were two girls wearing those huge sunglasses who got super excited when they started playing Don't Lose Touch. I was pretty pissed.

it was weird, at the show i went to there was a few chicks wearing the same sun glasses with all the other crap they wear. knew every word to every song. it was very WTF moment.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i find almost every girl can look attractive hiding behind those sunglasses. i dunno, i guess cause it hides most of their face...

[Flagjacket]

it was weird, at the show i went to there was a few chicks wearing the same sun glasses with all the other crap they wear. knew every word to every song. it was very WTF moment.

If you're not wearing a black t-shirt, ripped jeans or Vans/Converse low tops you have no business listening to Against Me!

[Rise Me Up]

Kevin knows what's up.

[Brewing Up With]

If you're not wearing a black t-shirt, ripped jeans or Vans/Converse low tops you have no business listening to Against Me!

Count me out then :(

[Cliche]

If you're not wearing a black t-shirt, ripped jeans or Vans/Converse low tops you have no business listening to Against Me!

Amen.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i recently bought these

http://shop.vans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product2_10001_10147_10101_301607_-1

in black\white checkers. does that count?

[Jessizzle]

my new pair
http://home.no.net/sectione/shoe/All-Star%20Hi%20Crossword.jpg

low tops though

[SkaRobotArmy]

oooh, crossword, i saw those in slip ons and thought it was cleverish. but i hate shoes that don't do up.

[Jessizzle]

thats why i bought low tops!

are you comming to SLM in toronto? or london... :D haha

[SkaRobotArmy]

toronto, londons too far. i actually remembered this time and bought them the day they went up.

...so uh, i like against me! what about you?...

[Brewing Up With]

Anyone listen to You Must Be Willing? It's probably their best new song. It's on the Thrash Unreal single

[Jessizzle]

i have tickets too wooo!

oh and if you like the old folky AM! stuff, listen to, my new favourite toronto band! http://www.myspace.com/permanentbastards

[Flagjacket]

my new favourite toronto band!

:confused: bands from toronto?

[Jessizzle]

kevvvvy listen!

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

You Must Be Willing is pretty good. I think I'd like it more were it just acoustic, but it's pretty good. For some reason, Thrash Unreal became one of my new favorite AM! songs recently. I dunno what happened. I just started really really liking it.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Thrash Unreal today on primetime Edge 102.1

[holy_roller99]

havent heard too much of their new stuff lately. maybe will pick it up sometime.

[Flagjacket]

Does it really ****ing matter at all every time Against Me! gets played on the radio

[Liebensaft]

Thrash Unreal gets a lot of airtime on the XM satellite radio I get to play with at work. I hear some pretty awesome music on that thing. Best part about my job.

[Deconstruction]

I found two(2) unreleased AM! tracks the other day. Clap, Clap and Take Aim! I had never seen them prior to the comp they are on...

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Up them? I haven't heard of either.

[Anarcho Poser]

I found two(2) unreleased AM! tracks the other day. Clap, Clap and Take Aim! I had never seen them prior to the comp they are on...

They were both on the stolen SFAFC demo under different names.

[Henrik]

I think if I were in a band, this would be the most amazing feeling in the world.

No, I know it would be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDadez9mqI&mode=related&search=
That entire concert seems for me to be the one show that I would have liked to go to the most ever! It looks so awesome I can't believe it!!!



I haven't heard the new album yet because I have been away all summer so far, but I ordered it of No Idea Records today.

I did se Against Me! for the first time ever though at a festival 07/08. It was their last show before the cd came out.
Even though I had only heard White People For Peace before the show I am still pretty sure that I will conclude two things so far:
1. The new songs will never mean the same to me as many of the old ones have.
2. When playing old stuff Against Me! still Kick Seriously *** live!

Unfortunately 1/3 of the set was new stuff that nobody in the crowd knew. Other than that it ruled.

[Cliche]

Yeah, Clap, Clap and Take Aim! are both on their stolen demo, as well as on a compilation called Remember Your Roots. Same versions and everything.

[Liebensaft]

1. The new songs will never mean the same to me as many of the old ones have.
2. When playing old stuff Against Me! still Kick Seriously *** live!

Unfortunately 1/3 of the set was new stuff that nobody in the crowd knew. Other than that it ruled.
True dat.

[Henrik]

Could anyone upload the stolen demo? I've never heard it.

[Cliche]

http://app.dagi3d.net/foropunk/

That website pretty much has everything you'll ever need.

[Anarcho Poser]

So I was just reading a pretty old interview with warren, from a little while before SFAFC came out.

Bobby: If you could pick one person or band, dead or alive to tour with, who would you pick to tour with and why?

Warren: I… Man, I think I’d really love to tour with The Replacements. Apparently they were a very inconsistent and volatile live band, but I don’t know, it seems just like there was a real energy to them at a certain time. It would be really awesome to be able to tap into that and witness it. Looking back at any band, you can kind of see, in retrospect, when was really their prime, you know? Like when was the time for like Guns N’ Roses, right at a certain point like ’88 or whatever; right before they had to start playing arenas, they were still playing clubs and there was this energy there. That would be an amazing time to see them play. Or getting to see the Replacements in the early ‘80s or getting to see The Clash when they were touring around the UK. Like there are these prime times where if you catch the band at that certain point, there’s that electricity there. It’s a tough call to make between them, those are a few.

I just thought it was kind of funny and ironic, him talking about that, right at the end of that phase for them.

[Henrik]

Thanks a lot, I forgot about that site. damn it's awesome, but who keeps upping things for it?

[Henrik]

So I was just reading a pretty old interview with warren, from a little while before SFAFC came out.



I just thought it was kind of funny and ironic, him talking about that, right at the end of that phase for them.

haha that's funny actually. Catching Against Me! live in 2002 or so must have been amazing.
Perfect set list I would love to see:

Pints Of Guinness Make You Strong
Impact
Rice and Bread
Y'all Dont Wanna Step To Dis
TSR
Those Anarcho Punks Are Mysterious...
The Disco Before The Breakdown
Reinventing Axl Rose
You Look Like I Need A Drink
Walking Is Still Honest
Untitled
We Laugh At Danger And Break All The Rules
Untitled 2
Baby, I'm An Anarchist! (as an encore)

The venue should be a bit small with around 100-200 people I think.

[Anarcho Poser]

The first time I saw them, it was just about perfect. I don't remember the exact setlist, but I know they played

T.S.R. (I remember it made a strange opener, I thought)
Those Anarcho Punx
Reinventing Axl Rose
Baby, I'm an anarchist
we Laugh at Danger
Pints of Guinness
Walking is Still Honest
Sink, florida, Sink
and Impact and Searching for a Former clarity as an encore.


Best. Show. Ever.

[asdf]

I wish I actually knew them when I saw then in '04, because it was a great show.

[Henrik]

I just found out that they played in 2001 at an awesome festival in an awesome squat near where I live.

I didn't knew them then and now Against Me! aren't as good and the squat has gotten evicted and teared down :(

[Scuba_Steve]

K guys I dunno if this is old new or what,

but I was listening to some Misfits tunes, and I think Danzig has a very similar voice to Tom Gabel.

not all the time, but sometimes they end up sounding very similar.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Really? I don't really see it. They both have strong voices, and Tom's later, cleaner voice is pretty powerful even without screaming, and I think Danzig does have that too. Danzig is definitely a much better singer though.

[Scuba_Steve]

It's not a constant thing, there were just a few times listening through the static age album where I thought "man, that sounds like tom".

I agree that Danzig is a fantastic singer though.

[Cliche]

Video for Thrash Unreal has just been released.

http://www.punknews.org/article/25009

I like the video, but lucky for us that the video is shitty enough that it won't get a lot of play on Much Music/MTV and such. It would have been better with more shots of the band, and if Tom was wearing a shirt.

[Henrik]

Against Me! are comming to my town next October. They are set to play at a pretty cool venue. It should be allright.

[GreyHam]

only just discovered against me and it makes me sad that they escaped my beady eyes and ears for so long...

awesome band, and certainly one that i cant pass judgement on for 'selling out'

[Cliche]

I understand the whole hating a bigger label thing, but check out all the awesome bands that we're on Sire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sire_Records_artists

[nitzguy]

Video for Thrash Unreal has just been released.

http://www.punknews.org/article/25009

I like the video, but lucky for us that the video is poopty enough that it won't get a lot of play on Much Music/MTV and such. It would have been better with more shots of the band, and if Tom was wearing a shirt.

i lol'd at the part when the wine was pouring on the band... so stupid.. lol

[Scuba_Steve]

I understand the whole hating a bigger label thing, but check out all the awesome bands that we're on Sire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sire_Records_artists

"were" is the operative word there.



All those bands have long since left.

[Cliche]

"were" is the operative word there.



All those bands have long since left.


Yeah, that's the sad part.

[SkaRobotArmy]

videos pretty cool, love toms guitar. but it just proves they haven't sold out, they're playing in a basement... way so punx

thats pretty sweet though, i didn't know that. if it was good enough for the ramones and the adicts, its good enough for me.

the english beat are playing a free show in hamilton tomorrow...

[Cliche]

Looks like Tom has gotten himself a little temper... enough to get him arrested.

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070814/BREAKINGNEWS/70814012

[Johnny Quest.]

Looks like Tom has gotten himself a little temper... enough to get him arrested.

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070814/BREAKINGNEWS/70814012

Gabel sounds like a monumental prick now.

I thought non-violence was supposed to be an anarchist belief, or is Gabel no longer an anarchist.

[CatfishJones]

Looks like Tom has gotten himself a little temper... enough to get him arrested.

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070814/BREAKINGNEWS/70814012

that other guy was probably just some drunk redneck running his mouth. he probably deserved what he got.

[Johnny Quest.]

Mugshot:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6049/gabelmugshotbv5.png

[Anarcho Poser]

A man came into the cafe, put Gabel in a headlock and headbutted him, Cook said. That man left soon after.
wtf?

[Cliche]

wtf?



Could have just been someone trying to stop him?

[AndreTheHyena]

I thought non-violence was supposed to be an anarchist belief, or is Gabel no longer an anarchist.

Oh, shut up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/kirbypuckett/gabel.jpg

[Cliche]

Any one want to top a $200 bid?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Against-Me-S-T-Hand-25-50-Good-condition_W0QQitemZ260149145027QQihZ016QQcategoryZ 306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Henrik]

Hehe that would be cool to own, but you should be a complete idiot to spend 200$ on that.

[mabba]

that other guy was probably just some drunk redneck running his mouth. he probably deserved what he got.

You are a complete moron. Did you even read the article? BTW I am Michael Hurley. Those are my statements and I was there first hand. Tom's action were completely out of line. What was written is exactly what happened. Both Smith and I paid him no attention till he ripped down the article. Smith did not even realize who Tom was at that moment. We have been patrons to the cafe for quite some time now. If anyone else were to come in and had started ripping down articles on the bulletin board he would of said the same thing. He commited battery which is a punishable crime. No one has any right to do what Tom did.

[Henrik]

Do you know what was written on that article?

[Cliche]

You are a complete moron. Did you even read the article? BTW I am Michael Hurley. Those are my statements and I was there first hand. Tom's action were completely out of line. What was written is exactly what happened. Both Smith and I paid him no attention till he ripped down the article. Smith did not even realize who Tom was at that moment. We have been patrons to the cafe for quite some time now. If anyone else were to come in and had started ripping down articles on the bulletin board he would of said the same thing. He commited battery which is a punishable crime. No one has any right to do what Tom did.


Was Tom sober?

[Henrik]

Isn't he always. I thought he quit drinking right before SFAFC came out.

[Cliche]

Isn't he always. I thought he quit drinking right before SFAFC came out.

I'm not sure, I've never heard anything about that. And the newest live videos I have from them are from We're Never Going Home, which was right before Clarity.

[mabba]

I never saw the graffeti on the article. The cafe is called All Saints. Alot of punk/DIY/college students/scensters/ and so on hang out there alot. There is graffeti and writings all over the walls. Most articles on the bulletin board get written on at some point. As for Tom being sober, I have no idea. You are still responsible for your actions no matter what state of mind you might be in. I was at the counter next to Smith doing design work on my mac and was not paying much attention until Tom started argueing with Smith.

[Henrik]

When I saw them a month ago they all seemed sober.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Gabel sounds like a monumental prick now.

He was never really my idol as I don't really think I can look up to someone who did that much coke, I dunno, but now I'm kind of embarrassed to like AM! as much as I do.

[Flagjacket]

Tom Gabel is a big douchebag end of story.

[Henrik]

Tom did a lot of coke?

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

From what I hear, yeah. There's that line in Beginning in an Ending, as well, though that's hardly conclusive.

[Cliche]

He was never really my idol as I don't really think I can look up to someone who did that much coke, I dunno, but now I'm kind of embarrassed to like AM! as much as I do.


I don't think he's ever been my idol. But I did really really like him a lot. I have lost some respect for him now though.

Edit: Think Sire will considering dropping them due to the bad publicity?

[mullets suk]

thats insane. (both the story and the 200$ record). i really thought tom was a pretty cool guy, from what i saw from dvds and the like. this just brings it down really bad.

I dont think sire will drop them. th publicity isnt that bad, considering this is the only place ive seen the news.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

pisses me off how **** against me! are now. new album is garbage. end of.

[me likes punk]

Edit: Think Sire will considering dropping them due to the bad publicity?

What would that matter?

[Johnny Quest.]

What would that matter?

They'd no longer be selloutzzzzzzzz

[me likes punk]

They'd no longer be selloutzzzzzzzz

You're stupid.:chug:


EDIT: Unless you were being sarcastic, then I apologize.

[Cliche]

What would that matter?

Just a question.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2581161192308196316

There's a video of Tom talking about what happened that night, as well as a clip of TSR.

[Anarcho Poser]

I heard in an interview somewhere either Tom or Warren saying somehting to the effect of "this isn't going to last forever, so we just want to experience as much as we possibly can while it lasts" Which, to me, is enough of a reason to sign to a major label.

[Henrik]

Though it isn't a good reason to start making shitty music.

That video is the first time I've heard Against Me! them selves actually talking about their choice about changing to a major label and defend it. Usually they kind of ignore the subject as for what I have heard.

Anyways, that crowd sounds awful! 16 year old girls all of them.

[SkaRobotArmy]

'gotta make your money while you got the chance'

maybe they are just doin this to get some money together and experiment a little bit then when contract expires they go back and start doin what they want.

[Henrik]

If they pulled of a Chumbawamba I would love them so ****ing much!!!


Like someone else on here once said: Imagine if they went on stage for some huge award show and then suddenly just announced that they still were anarchists and starting playing one of the old songs like Baby I'm An Anarchist, Impact etc. Then they would give all the money they earned to some awesome benefit and everything would be great again :p

[Johnny Quest.]

You're stupid.:chug:


EDIT: Unless you were being sarcastic, then I apologize.

I was being sarcastic.

[Cliche]

Update from the site:

“Thrash Unreal” video + acoustic versions of “New Wave” and “Animal” coming September 4th

Just wanted to let everyone know that our "Thrash Unreal" video is going to be made available on iTunes, bundled together with completely new acoustic versions of "New Wave" and "Animal", starting on September 4th. So if you have iTunes, check out our acoustic tracks then; we hope you enjoy them...

I'm looking forward to that.

Edit:

http://www.merchrevolt.com/againsttea/

:D

[blockhead]

I just saw Against Me! last night and it was an awesome show. I came home covered in sweat from singing and moshing with everyone. The best part was the encore when they played Baby I'm an Anarchist and We Laugh at Danger and Break All the Rules and everyone went crazy and sang every word. It was probably the best concert I've ever been to.

[Anarcho Poser]

what was the setlist like?

[Johnny Quest.]

I'm seeing them in a couple days, so i hope they play those two songs.

[blockhead]

what was the setlist like?

Started with Pints of Guiness, lots of stuff off New Wave, Cliche Guevara, Those Anarcho Punks are mysterious, Reinventing Axl Rose, Walking is Still Honest, that's all I can remember. I was disappointed they didn't play Cavalier Eternal.

[Flagjacket]

If they pulled of a Chumbawamba I would love them so ****ing much!!!


Like someone else on here once said: Imagine if they went on stage for some huge award show and then suddenly just announced that they still were anarchists and starting playing one of the old songs like Baby I'm An Anarchist, Impact etc. Then they would give all the money they earned to some awesome benefit and everything would be great again :p
That would actually make things twice as gay as they were before.

[santi3hg]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/danceswithlindsey/Picture3.jpg

[Flagjacket]

TATToOS ALL OVER

[Brewing Up With]

TATToOS ALL OVER
:lol:

[SkaRobotArmy]

hahaha. and man, air banding is sick.

[AndreTheHyena]

I like the new album. Yeah, I said it. I'm also going to go see them next month. Who cares?

[Brewing Up With]

You can like the new album if you want. I don't completely hate it. I just like the old Against Me! a lot more.

They will always put on a good show though, they still play their old songs and have a lot of energy. Go see them.

[Cliche]

I like all the new songs, except Stop!, Animal, and Ocean. But that might change with the acoustic version of Animal coming out soon.

[Brewing Up With]

It seems like if any of these songs were acoustic they'd be better

[Cliche]

Well I posted Up The Cuts acoustic quite a few pages back, but here it is again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ycPql-GIk

[santi3hg]

I can't believe there was not one acoustic on the new album.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I saw an interview where Warren was talking about how he likes that there are no acoustic tracks cos he gets to play on every song

[Brewing Up With]

I can't believe there was not one acoustic on the new album.

Theres at least one new acoustic song though. The released the song "You Must Be Willing" on the Thrash Unreal single.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

You Must Be Willing isn't really acoustic. It kicks in at the end. I remember thinking it would be better if they left it completely acoustic.

EDIT: Or is it in every chorus? I don't remember. Haven't listened to the song since I got the 7", which was like a month ago.