The Official Against Me! Thread

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

It's okay, I guess. I bought mine used, though. I don't think I'd buy it new. I was pleased to find a live version of **** Stroll in the extras.

[TakeWarning]

I find it's pretty entertaining.

[AIRIC]

I think it's worth the money to be honest. It's really entertaining.

[sketchyjoe]

What songs are on it?

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Umm, Pints Of Guinness, Sink Florida Sink, You Look Like I Need A Drink, Problems, Walking Is Still Honest, Baby I'm An Anarchist, We Laugh At Danger.

I think I'm forgetting a few, then there's the extras too.

[babaca]

joy, those anarcho punx..., rice and bread, che guevera, TSR, impact, **** stroll, Exaustion. I think those are all the ones that were missing

[thepo]

Reinventing Axl Rose, I Still Love You Julie, and Turn Those Clapping Hands too. There's also short covers of Billy Idol's Dancing With Myself, Creedence Clearwater Survival's Lodi, and some Pink Floyd cover. Billy Idol is Tom and their old drummer kevin. The rest are just Tom in the van with an acoustic guitar.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

That scene with Tom and Kevin at some guy's house is awesome. I thought it was cool that James Bowman was in the crowd. Or was that at some other show? He was in the crowd at one of 'em.

[TakeWarning]

The part where they lock Fall Out Boy in their changeroom is rather humourous.

[good rats]

Isn't it Taking Back Sunday they lock in the changeroom? Not Fall Out Boy?

Either way it's pretty funny. I haven't seen it in ages though, i might buy it.

[AIRIC]

Yeah it's taking back sunday.

I love when the dog in the background starts rolling over and Tom starts laughing. Hilarious.

[TakeWarning]

Isn't it Taking Back Sunday they lock in the changeroom? Not Fall Out Boy?

Either way it's pretty funny. I haven't seen it in ages though, i might buy it.

Yeah it is. I always get those two bands confused.

[Massriot]

I love Against Me!
and anyone who doesn't, is a racist.

[Anarcho Poser]

I love Against Me!
and anyone who doesn't, is a racist.
that's a poor assessment.

[AIRIC]

Jude get off my forum.

[Microwave meals & ideals]

I love Against Me!
and anyone who doesn't, is a racist.

Harsh but fair I'd say.

[Amphetamine]

Walking is Still Honest has been getting replayed by me a lot recently. That chorus is fantastic.

[sketchyjoe]

Word.

[AIRIC]

I'm kinda sick of it tbh.

It's their one early song that I've heard WAY too much.

[Jammer]

You look like I need a drink is one of the best songs I ever heard:)

[Microwave meals & ideals]

I can't stop listening to the Crime EP at the moment. Every song on it is so good!

[babaca]

for sure. the Crime EP is my favourite thing Against Me! has put out. It's just full of solid tunes. I love Impact and Burn!

[AIRIC]

Yeah it's probably their best overall release.

[Chairmahn of Jah Board]

No way. Cavalier eternal, or the acoustic ep is my favorite.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

as the eternal cowboy for the motha fuking win.

[Jase23]

I used to think As The Eternal Cowboy was best until i went back and properly listened to Reinventing Axl Rose. Since then i've just gone and listened to everything, and now my favourite release by them is either RAR or the Acoustic EP. that EP is so good.

Armaggedon and Those Anarcho Punx.. for the win.

[Microwave meals & ideals]

I've got the acoustic EP on 7" so mine only has 4 tracks :(

[babaca]

im really loving wagon wheel alot lately too. good song, even though its a cover

[TakeWarning]

Wagon Wheel is amazing.

Original version sounds rank as hell though.

[Henrik]

Against Me! are nominated for some Mtv show :lol:

[holy_roller99]

seriously? i bet they would put out a big F'UCK You on stage.

[TakeWarning]

seriously? i bet they would put out a big F'UCK You on stage.

That would be so punX.

[Pirate Satellite]

The new live album is kicking my *** so hard. It's so good that it makes me like Searching For A Former Clarity a little bit, because I understand how the songs fit in with the bands' music as a whole.

I know they're total hypocrites, but it's hard to stay mad at such a groovy bunch.

[AIRIC]

What if at this MTV thing they announce how much they hate MTV and everything corporate and say that SFAFC was a big elaborate joke they were playing and go back to the basement.

[POINTLESS5448]

then my life would be complete. ive always though about that and if a band would ever do it. i would.

[Henrik]

What if at this MTV thing they announce how much they hate MTV and everything corporate and say that SFAFC was a big elaborate joke they were playing and go back to the basement.
That would really be the most awesome thing a band that I liked had ever done.
Then they should rush on stage and start playing Ya'll don't wanna step to dis and Pints of Guinness make you strong.

[AIRIC]

Haha that would be so sweet. Did this MTV thing happen yet?

[Henrik]

I don't know actually. I don't have that channel.

[Flagjacket]

it Was A Birrrrrrrrrrthiday Gift! Of A Mexican Telecaster! That From This Day On! I Will Play Along To All My Young Pioneers Records!

[Liebensaft]

Someday, when we're in old-folks homes, we'll tell the young kids working there about how there used to be this glorious punk band that everyone loved, and how they erred in their ways and made totally lame and mediocre music.

[asdf]

And the young kids there will be wondering why we're talking about that lame old farts music still.

[Rise Me Up]

I would have sooo many orgasms if they did that on the MTV thing.

[Henrik]

Someday, when we're in old-folks homes, we'll tell the young kids working there about how there used to be this glorious punk band that everyone loved, and how they erred in their ways and made totally lame and mediocre music.
Haha, I'm soo going to do that :P

[Johnny Quest.]

I've been listening to a lot Against Me! as of late, i'm just in love with them after seeing them over the summer. I know they sold out, but i think there's no band that has the same passion as them. But anyway, i was thinking, a lot of the sets they've played lately have had the same dull setlist (Don't Lose Touch, Problems etc.) Does anyone else think they need to start spicing them up a bit more, you know, wheel out the big guns.

Anyone agree?

[AIRIC]

Of course they do. However, I doubt they will.

[Henrik]

Do They Owe Us A Living?

Of course they do! Of course they do!

[Flagjacket]

it Was A Birrrrrrrrrrthiday Gift! Of A Mexican Telecaster! That From This Day On! I Will Play Along To All My Young Pioneers Records!

They should play that more

[POINTLESS5448]

what is this mtv thing you kids were talking about?

[holy_roller99]

i really dont get the selling out thing. it is kinda beyond me how this forums seems to go into these fads and when one bnd goes out of the same routine they get looked down upon. like i mean a small chnge isnt all that bad. besides Bad Religion went on to a major label for a while just to reach more people with there music.

[Henrik]

And Bad Religion got a lot worse too IMO.

New Against Me! sucks. And looking at their old ideals makes them kind of hypocritical now.

[Johnny Quest.]

And Bad Religion got a lot worse too IMO.

New Against Me! sucks. And looking at their old ideals makes them kind of hypocritical now.

New Against Me! doesn't suck, it just isn't as good as their old stuff. I think Even Out Our Worst We're Still Better Than Most is the best track off ...Clarity.

[Henrik]

Okay I will agree with you there...
New Against Me! doesn't suck (I fear that the upcomming album will) but in comparison with the older stuff, it is terrible.
The ironic title "Even at our worst we're still better than most" kind of explains it all.

[holy_roller99]

hey they still put on a hell of a show. though they are right that Aganst Me!s setlist has gotten pretty crappy but bad religion had an awesome one.

[Anarcho Poser]

hey they still put on a hell of a show. though they are right that Aganst Me!s setlist has gotten pretty crappy but bad religion had an awesome one.
I disagree. Last time i saw them, their setlist was terrible, and their show was miserable.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and say it's probably because it was one of the last dates on the warped tour and they were probably wiped by then.

[Johnny Quest.]

Would be so kind as to put their live album on yousendit, so something like that.

Thanks in advance.

[TakeWarning]

I wouldn't even bother downloading it, it's really not worth listening to.

[AndreTheHyena]

If we're talking about Americans Abroad...yeah, big let-down.

[pedro durruti]

What is it that makes it so bad (I haven't listened to it)? The set list looks pretty good.

[AIRIC]

Compared to bootlegs from '03 or so it's horrible.

[babaca]

there just isnt that energy in it like i've come to expect from Against Me!. ive seen them live before and it was amazing, so much energy and intimate and stuff, but none of that is captured on the cd. the songs sound slow, too cleaned up, not like the old raw Against Me!

[TakeWarning]

Also, except for one new song, we've heard all the songs alot of times before.

[babaca]

and that new song sucked too

[Scuba_Steve]

and that new song sucked too

I quite liked it.



I dont know why you guys are all sitting here complaining, they could have made something infinately worse, just because it isnt up to par with everyone of their other albums doesnt mean it sucks.

[Flagjacket]

Just cause it could've been worse doesn't mean it's not still bad. The new songs they played at Warped Tour were all really bad.

[AndreTheHyena]

It's boring as hell, and there's no banter. I need banter, goddammit.

[Flagjacket]

Give me banter or give me a NOFX album!

[TakeWarning]

Yeah there should've been more humourous banter.

[Lexluthor]

I really dont like the newer Against Me! Its honestly nothing to do with which record label they are on... I just generally cant get into their newer sound.

I personally feel on Clarity that his voice sounded pretty dumb (And I used to think he had a great voice) Its just too much of a big rock album, and im not really into that. I fear the new album is going to be even more like that.. which is a bummer really.

What I cant understand is this. They sort of pioneered this whole Folk/Punk sound, which was great. They were considered a fresh innovative band, and then they decided to go a totally different direction (Which is fine) However it wasnt like they pushed the boat out further, they kind of went backwards. The music they make now isnt new or exciting.. Its pretty generic. If I was them I would have either carried on with what I was previously doing or done something else new.. but then again im not them... so...

[AIRIC]

Yeah that makes sense. But that's why their new music is such a big dissapointment. Becasue it's so god damn generic.

[Henrik]

Against Me! made a video and put it on myspace. It's kind of a joke video that in a not funny way explains why they changed label..

actually it isn't really saying anything... :(

www.myspace.com/againstme

[Lexluthor]

Against Me! made a video and put it on myspace. It's kind of a joke video that in a not funny way explains why they changed label..

actually it isn't really saying anything... :(

www.myspace.com/againstme


Yeah.. when I starting watching it (and I heard the question) I thought.. oh good lets see what they themselves have to say about this. I have heard the responces of about a million different fans, but never the actual band.

Then they just played some dumb (Pretty unfunny) video.

Kind of a cop out.

[Henrik]

Yeah it would be interesting to see them answer honestly. I think a lot of fans would like that.

[Flagjacket]

I guess no one caught the Wayne's World joke?

[AIRIC]

I think the video was pretty funny. I think that even though they've sold out in terms of music, they're the same exact people, if that makes any sense. They are just playing by the rules.

That was never really my **** with them though, my **** is that they write horrible music now.

[Flagjacket]

When ym band sign to a major label I am going to use my fortune to do the most extravagant things ever. Our stage show is going to full on have dacners, pyrotechnics, and a flying part.

[viva la revolucion]

It's ironic that they don't give a **** about their fans anymore. It really makes me respect them. Oh wait...

[Flagjacket]

I swear to God why hasn't ANYONE caught the Wayne's World joke?

[AIRIC]

Yes Kevin and like 3 people all ready commented them on it and we don't GIVE A ****.

[Flagjacket]

I mean the people here who are acting like Against Me! made up a totally stupid video on their own.

[AIRIC]

It wasn't stupid though it was classy.

[Henrik]

What's the joke?
I haven't seen Wayne's World.

[Flagjacket]

The entire video is a verbatim replica of a scene in Wayne's World, even down to the camera angles.

[asdf]

I thought it was quite funny. Makes me want to see the wayne's world thing you're talking about.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Who's the bald guy in the video? And where's James?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I Lost The Confidence To Write A Song So I Found 3 Simple Chords And I Held Them Together With My Weak Voice On An Out Of Tune Guitar My Father Gave To Me

[Jessizzle]

Hey look at me, im posting in a AM! thread.

[Values Here]

You look like I need a drink.

[Flagjacket]

It was a birthday gift

Of a mexican Telecaster

[Angry Balled Fists!]

i was never really into that song like most others tbh.

[Johnny Quest.]

Still a great line though.

'No i'm not ready to die just yeeeee-EEEEE-eeeeeee-tttt.'

That's one of my favourite AM! lyrics, and the way it's sang makes it sound so triumphant.

[SantaDuJuan]

I think I've had an overdose of Against Me!
When I saw them in person, at a small club and I hugged there drummer.

It was kind of like, "well this is as far as this band is going to get in my heart"
Because, to me. When you listen to an album, you think "I'd love to see them" and then when you do "Man I've to meet them" and then you do. It's kind of like now what?

I still love Crime, but I don't listen to Against Me! anymore, and it's hard to for some reason.

2 years ago they were by far in my top 5 of all time, but now it's just like.
"Yeah, I saw them at a show once, it was cool"

[Angry Balled Fists!]

lol i agree.

[Flagjacket]

I don't agree.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

wait i agreed at the T.S.R thing.

I HOPE MA BODY CAN TAKE IT

[AIRIC]

I would want to see Against Me! but they would probably be wearing Nike and that would piss me off.

[Flagjacket]

Why is that?

[AIRIC]

Becasue Against Me! and Nike are two polar opposites.

[AndreTheHyena]

lolz

[Flagjacket]

Becasue Against Me! and Nike are too polar opposites.

I really like both Nikes and Against Me! so I'd be pretty happy at an Against Me! show.

[IMONXTC]

the waynes world joke wasnt funny. they totally avoided answering a sincere question. fans want a reason why AM! decided to sign to sire, not a lame joke. a lot of fans were hoping AM! could be the saviors of punk music, and are taking the sire deal very hard.

Im still gonna buy the new album, b/c maybe this will turn out to be a good thing. i mean, the Clash signing to CBS was considered selling out, but look what we wouldnt have if they hadnt?

i just wish they took it a little more seriously coz i know kids who depended on this band so much.

[Iron Bug]

Hey, shut the **** up. They don't owe you anything. You've all been little bitchy cunts about Sire since they did it. You havn't been giving them any respect, I don't see why they should anwser your questions.

[IMONXTC]

hey, jackass, i just said i still like them, and i will be buying the new cd, and will be going to lots of future shows, i just wish they didnt dance around what, to a lot of people, is a serious issue. i dont care when bands sign to major labels, its their choice, but it would be nice if they offered some closure. it just hurts worse with against me! than it did with, say, Green Day or Bad Religion, because of AM!'s association with Anarchy and Anti-establishment.

[Iron Bug]

Hey i can tell you right now why they did it.

A) Money
B) Exposure

It is either one of them, or both. Like every other band that has ever signed to a label bigger than the one they were on. If you couldn't tell that by their last album they they we're going for more radio-friendly sounds then you're retarded. Its been 8 years since Vida Vis and they've progressed with their music, as people, and apperantally as buisnessmen. People change, bands change,and they don't have the same ethics as they did when writing RAR as they do now. You can tell that from album to album.

[Johnny Quest.]

Hey i can tell you right now why they did it.

A) Money
B) Exposure

It is either one of them, or both. Like every other band that has ever signed to a label bigger than the one they were on. If you couldn't tell that by their last album they they we're going for more radio-friendly sounds then you're retarded. Its been 8 years since Vida Vis and they've progressed with their music, as people, and apperantally as buisnessmen. People change, bands change,and they don't have the same ethics as they did when writing RAR as they do now. You can tell that from album to album.

Yeah, but when you've written songs that sing 'MTV **** you' or an entire song that's devoted to an ideal scene, then go back on those statements especially when they seem so sincere and honest, it's easy to see why people are upset.

In RAR it says 'honesty and emotion are not looked down on here', so why doesn't AM! just be honest about why they signed to Sire.

[Johnny Quest.]

'With your thought in mind
I, walk the streets down
to the shore and i sink into
the pacific!!!'

Some of the best AM! lyrics

[Henrik]

What song is that?

I agree with your first post.

[Johnny Quest.]

What song is that?

I agree with your first post.

Which post? My one about AM! answering the fans.

It's from Beggining in an Ending.

The disco EP is so good too. The most emotional 7 or 8 minutes on CD

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, but when you've written songs that sing 'MTV **** you' or an entire song that's devoted to an ideal scene, then go back on those statements especially when they seem so sincere and honest, it's easy to see why people are upset.

"If you wanna stay punk, you've gotta stay poor!"

Against Me! signing to a major label affects my everyday life.

[AIRIC]

"If you wanna stay punk, you've gotta stay poor!"

Against Me! signing to a major label affects my everyday life.

I wouldn't be surprised if it does to certain people. Against Me! meant something. Now they mean nothing. It's a huge let down and a real shame.

Though I think the video was very classy, the fans deserve a straight forward answer for why they did this.

I respect it because I think they're smart enough guys to realize that they would be missing out if they didn't do this. But still, it's a huge let down. They kept it real and this is so not real.

[Flagjacket]

Agaisnt Me! meant something to me because of what their music meant to me, not their business practices. I can still listen to Tonight We'll Give It 35% and other assorted songs that almost make me ****in' cry bevcause they affect me so much, but because they were on an independent label doesn't matter to me.

People should give Tom some room, we can't expect him to cater to our dreams forever. I'm glad Gainst Me! have gone on to a major label. They probably won't reach big time Fall Out Boy sucess (major labels have lots of 'failed' projects), but they deserve the money and newly found ease of life.

[AIRIC]

I agree with that but my deal is that these guys were the real deal. The thing about their music is that it was 100% honest and reflected their life 100%. That is very hard to come by.

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, and who is to say it doesn't anymore? I'll pass that desicion after I hear the new album.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

i agree with both of you guys. i think its more of me hoping about what kevin is saying while i feel what eric feels more.

[AndreTheHyena]

As far as I'm concerned, they've turned into nothing but a bunch of Replacements wanna-be's...


...which is fine.

[asdf]

You guys seem to be more concerned with the politics of your music than the politics of your politicians.

[AIRIC]

I'm not really concerned with politicians yet.

[Rise Me Up]

Me neither, music has a greater place in my life than politics.

[viva la revolucion]

None of you who say that their music meant so much to you even bothered to read the lyrics on the entire searching for a former clarity album and the b sides that i know you all have downloaded (ie exaustion). It pretty much clearly states their intentions, if you hadn't been so caught up in your own politics you would have noticed.

[Flagjacket]

You guys seem to be more concerned with the politics of your music than the politics of your politicians.

I don't believe in politics.

[Flagjacket]

None of you who say that their music meant so much to you even bothered to read the lyrics on the entire searching for a former clarity album and the b sides that i know you all have downloaded (ie exaustion). It pretty much clearly states their intentions, if you hadn't been so caught up in your own politics you would have noticed.

Oh, I guess I've never done any of those things OR even bought one Against Me! album. Is is copy of SFAFC and RAR just stone chiseled replicas then?

[SantaDuJuan]

I agree with that but my deal is that these guys were the real deal. The thing about their music is that it was 100% honest and reflected their life 100%. That is very hard to come by.

They still do to some extent.
I mean I can still listen to Crime or RAR and be influenced or politically charged because I can somewhat sense their emotions.
"I want to change the world and have a fun time doing it"

And I'm sure the music now will express how they feel now, today.
Time changes everyone.

[AndreTheHyena]

Who wants to send me those SfaFC b-sides?

[Henrik]

I really really need those too.
Oh and Vida Vis even more.

[AIRIC]

I'm pretty sure it's the stolen demo.

[Henrik]

It is, but I don't have it.

[Henrik]

Does the song Untitled 2 exist in a studio version?

[POINTLESS5448]

I really really need those too.
Oh and Vida Vis even more.
i have vida vis if you want it on slsk.

[AIRIC]

Does the song Untitled 2 exist in a studio version?

No. I really wish it did though. Easily in my top 5.

[Flagjacket]

I can't find an Against Me! line with enough lyrical meaning to me to get a tattoo of and when I find one I am going to get it on my chest.

[World Burns To Death]

I can't find an Against Me! line with enough lyrical meaning to me to get a tattoo of and when I find one I am going to get it on my chest.
:thumb:

[AIRIC]

I'm going to get Axl Rose tattoooed on my face.

[AndreTheHyena]

I can't find an Against Me! line with enough lyrical meaning to me to get a tattoo of and when I find one I am going to get it on my chest.

I've been thinking of getting "There's a joy in all I can see" inked somewhere on me ever since I heard the SfaFC demos.

If you steal that, you're a faggot.

[Johnny Quest.]

Heh, i've been thinking about getting some lyrics tattooed on me.

Maybe 'I'm not ready to die just yet...' something like that.

[AIRIC]

Except you'll be regretting that when you're an 85 year old war veteran with PTSD, two arthritic knees and a fake hip.

[Flagjacket]

I am already a war veteran.

[TakeWarning]

I know a guy with alot of tattoos.

He said in the long run it wasn't worth getting them all.

[AndreTheHyena]

I have four. I regret the placement of one of them, but otherwise I'm either still totally into them or pleasantly indifferent.

[SantaDuJuan]

I'm thinking about getting Thug Life on my stomach.

[Flagjacket]

I'm thinking about getting Thug Life on my stomach.

Swagger jacker!

[SantaDuJuan]

I assumed Tupac references were still cool.

[Johnny Quest.]

I have four. I regret the placement of one of them, but otherwise I'm either still totally into them or pleasantly indifferent.

What you got?

[Flagjacket]

I assumed Tupac references were still cool.

2Pac tributes are cool, but not swagger jacking.

[sketchyjoe]

You guys seem to be more concerned with the politics of your music than the politics of your politicians.When was the last time a politician said something that meant something to anyone?

[Johnny Quest.]

When was the last time a politician said something that meant something to anyone?

I always thought that when Dubya said 'Rarely is the question asked; Is our children learning?' it meant something to me, as it showed that someone of such power and importance can also be so goddamn stupid.

[AndreTheHyena]

What you got?

The skull from Rancid's Life Won't Wait, the Minor Threat Out of Step sheep, a Sacred Heart, and the Lady of Guadalupe. The first two are just black and sketchy as hell, the Lady of Guadalupe is custom, colorful, expensive, and five hours worth of ink.

[Flagjacket]

I always thought that when Dubya said 'Rarely is the question asked; Is our children learning?' it meant something to me, as it showed that someone of such power and importance can also be so goddamn stupid.

Lol George Bush can't talk right that is a valid criticism oft he way he runs a country!

[TakeWarning]

The Lady of Guadalupe sounds exciting.

[Johnny Quest.]

The Lady of Guadalupe sounds exciting.

Heh, yeah, any pics?

I thought of another cool tattoo, the No Idea stressface

[AIRIC]

Lol George Bush can't talk right that is a valid criticism oft he way he runs a country!

If a world leader can't even speak his first language properly he should not be a world leader.

[TakeWarning]

Eric's right.

For me, if someone has difficulty with basic grammar, it reflects on their overall intelligence.

[AIRIC]

Yes thank you.

[Flagjacket]

I just feel that maybe he's just a really poor speaker. I mess up talking all the time, switching letters and words around.

[lynch_me]

Is this band still around?

[Flagjacket]

No George W Bush and the Cabinet broke up.

[DaveToopes]

Making fun of GW's grammar is stupid. I'm with Kav on this one guys.

[asdf]

I just feel that maybe he's just a really poor speaker. I mess up talking all the time, switching letters and words around.I feel that you can be a poor leader and a poor public speaker. They don't tie in together, but at the same time it's not like it's one or the other no matter what.

[AIRIC]

We're not making fun of his grammer. We're just saying it's really bad and that reflects on him as a leader.

[DaveToopes]

I see no correlation. The guy went to Harvard or Yale or some sh!t he has to be smart he just can't talk right!

[AIRIC]

He went to Yale but also take into consideration that his father was a rich politician who was running for Senator at the time and also went to Yale.

[asdf]

When being a political public figure (I say political because this doesn't really apply to, say, sports figures) it really helps to be able to adress the public in a clear, concise way.

That being said, it doesn't completely reflect his presidency. I'm sure many of you disagree with what Ronald Reagan did (if you were even alive then, which, I myself was not), and yet he's considered one of the greatest speakers of our time. Just because he is clear and concise and really knew how to talk to the people, did not mean he was a good president.

So yeah, I don't really rag on the president, speech or otherwise, very often either.

Did any of you see that clip of President Bush playing a xylophone-esque instrument when he went to Viet Nam recently? Man, he did a pretty damn good job.

I say we focus on the musical talents of our Politicians, and the political message of our musicians.

[Flagjacket]

We're not making fun of his grammer. We're just saying it's really bad and that reflects on him as a leader.

we aren't talking about Fraisier!

[AIRIC]

Oh the irony :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Henrik]

i have vida vis if you want it on slsk.
I would love it, but slsk doesn't work on my shitty computer.
No. I really wish it did though. Easily in my top 5.
Yeah, that song is so awesome. Just recently got Tom Gabel live at C.O.R.E.
Do you know why We did it All For Don ends in the studio version?

[AIRIC]

Probably just because the recording was bad or something and they wanted to finish the song.

[tappenzee]

Okay, I may take some **** for this, but I've been listening to Searching For A Former Clarity a lot more recently, and I've come to the conclusion that it's better than Reinventing Axl Rose.

It's just a better collection of songs, takes more chances, it's better produced, and it's got "How Low" on it, which has become my drinking song :chug:

Don't get me wrong, I love RAR. The **** hit me like a cannon the first time I heard it, but it hasn't aged as well as SFAFC to me.

I'm actually really looking forward to this major label debut. I hope they keep pushing the boundaries. When's that sh*t coming out?

[AIRIC]

I think early '07.

I'm not gonna give you **** for that but I just don't see how someone could think that. But whatever man I'm looking forward to the new album too :thumb:

[DaveToopes]

I have to respect you for saying something so ludicrous tappenzee!

[nitzguy]

have you guys seen the little skit on AM!'s myspace thingy where they do a little waynes worlds joke? it's funny

[Henrik]

I still don't get the joke.

I really hoped that they would have answered honest instead.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Where would one get Live at CORE? I found it on Last.fm but I want to download it...

[Flagjacket]

I still don't get the joke.

Okay, the the movie Wayne's World, two people have a small local access late ngiht rock show that they film and produce in their basement. A large cable company offers to buy it from them, but only if they change a bunch of the features to a more palatable mass media format. THen they proceed to tell the guy that They won't sell out and stuff. Against Me! used the lines from that scene, and the exact same products and camera angles and poses and basically re filmed that entire scene in their backyard. It's a reference to that scene. Do you get it now?

[DaveToopes]

No I'm still not sure I understand, Flagjacket.

[nitzguy]

I still don't get the joke.

I really hoped that they would have answered honest instead.

download the movie. waynes world.. its a comedy

[tappenzee]

I have to respect you for saying something so ludicrous tappenzee!

Yeah well, thats like, your opinion, man

[DaveToopes]

ATEC is my fav.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Ethan Knows It

[lynch_me]

No I'm still not sure I understand, Flagjacket.

*sigh*

http://youtube.com/watch?v=biAV226wzwM

[Henrik]

Where would one get Live at CORE? I found it on Last.fm but I want to download it...
Give me your e-mail.

Also if anyone would upload Vida Vis for me... That would be supa!

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Give me your e-mail.

theonlymistake AT gmail DOT com

And if you go to albumbase.com and register, you can find Vivida Vis. That's where I got it.

[AndreTheHyena]

Why do people always write their email addresses out like that on forums and myspaces and such? Does it deter bots or something similar?

[Brain Toad]

Why do people always write their email addresses out like that on forums and myspaces and such? Does it deter bots or something similar?

Keeps it from being collected by bots and being easily clickable by spammers. Plus it looks cool.

About the dude who said SFFAC is better than RAR. Somedays I agree, somedays I don't. Depends what type of music I'm in the mood for.

[TakeWarning]

No matter what type of music I'm in for, it's RAR. Some of the songs on SFAFC are just so remarkably mediocre.

[Flagjacket]

Keeps it from being collected by bots and being easily clickable by spammers. Plus it looks cool.

About the dude who said SFFAC is better than RAR. Somedays I agree, somedays I don't. Depends what type of music I'm in the mood for.

Nick I hear the only type of music you listen to anymore is Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

[DaveToopes]

That is a videogame, not music.

Don't front, Kav. You're a murderer after all.

[Flagjacket]

We went over the plan several times using Vice City multiplayer as a simulator.

[Brain Toad]

Nick I hear the only type of music you listen to anymore is Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

What the **** was that supposed to be? An insult?

[AndreTheHyena]

Sun Kil Moon is so ****in' good.

[Flagjacket]

What the **** was that supposed to be? An insult?

No I jsut heard that all you do now is play GTA and not even listen to music. Someone who visits PJ regularly told me.

[DaveToopes]

Don't judge Nack, Kaven.

[AIRIC]

YALL NIGGAZ BETTA STOP FRONTIN' OR YOU GONNA HAVE GROVE STREET UP YO ***.

[Flagjacket]

Don't judge Nack, Kaven.

I'm not! I seriously recall someone saying it!

[DaveToopes]

I was questioning your 'tude, mister.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Has anyone transcribed the lyrics to Untitled 2? I transcribed most of them, but I was wondering if anyone figured them all out. So far I have:

No it doesn't hurt
Everything just is and that's how it's gonna be
There was a part of you born at fifteen, now it's dead at twenty
.... with the people we used to be
You know we never needed high school
Together we we were greater than ...
We'd say **** you
I don't need anything you have to offer
As long as we have each other
...unstoppable

Now we've made these choices together
I've got the bad tattoos to prove it
Scarred into my arms
These are the stakes this is the score
... of victory
The story of how we grew apart
Now I, I'd take a bullet, I'd spend the night in jail
... leaving the town tonight
...
I'm so sorry, if I could change anything
I'd bring us back here again
But I know I'm not coming back here again.

[AIRIC]

No it
Doesn't hurt,
Everything just is and that's just how it's gunna be.
There was a party born at 15,
Now it's dead at 20,
Gone with all those friends,
Gone with the people we used to be.
You know we
Never needed highschool,
Together we agreed that when asked,
We'd say "**** you, I don't need anything you have to offer,
As long as we have eachother."
(Felt like we were unstoppable)

Now we've
Made these choices together
Got the bad tatooes to prove it
Shot into my arms these are mistakes
This is the scar
And these are the stories of victory
The story of how we grew apart
Now I
I'd take a bullet
Or I'd spend the night in jail
(Quitting a job
Leaving the town tonight)
But still I'd say I'm so sorry
and if I could change anything
I'd bring us back here again
I know we're not comin' back here again


These aren't mine but I think you have the 15/20 part right and mine is wrong.

[Brain Toad]

No I jsut heard that all you do now is play GTA and not even listen to music. Someone who visits PJ regularly told me.

It's not "all I do". It's what I do in my free-time to relax from school.

[DaveToopes]

Yeah Kevin nack goes to COLLEGE you ignoramus!

[Flagjacket]

Oh well that's cool then. What radios taiton do you listen to on San andreas? if I could I'd put VCPR in the game.

[Brain Toad]

I used to listen to K-DST, Radio X and the country station, but they got boring, went to user tracks for awhile, then just turned off the radio all together.

[DaveToopes]

Do you listen to music while you play it then? That's what I used to do with Warcraft III is just mute the game volume and play some Against Me! (need to make this relevant somehow..).

[Brain Toad]

Nah, if I run winamp it takes up too much memory and I lag a lot (my computer is crap). Sometimes I put a record or CD in my stereo though.

I don't think AM! wouldn't be appropriate listening for GTA

[Henrik]

Bump!

New Against Me! Album out July 10th.

Track List:
01. New Wave
02. Up The Cuts
03. Thrash Unreal
04. White People For Peace
05. Stop
06. Borne On The FM Waves
07. Piss And Vinegar
08. Americans Abroad
09. Animal
10. Ocean

I'm kind of disappointed that there are only 10 songs on it. And why the hell did they make a studio version of Americans Abroad? That song is not good!
Other than that I'm pretty excited even though there is a good chance I will be dissapointed over this.

[asdf]

I feel like I've already heard it.

That's probably because I've heard about 4 out of the 10 songs.

[AIRIC]

If you've heard one you've heard them all.


FKAUSDFSAJFKSLAJFDS
ADALFJDSLKAJFDSAF
DSAFKDLSAFJDSLA
FDSA
FDSAJFKDLSAJFLDKSJAF
PDSA
FSD
AFKDSAF
DSAF
AS
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****INGASSHOLES

[Henrik]

I feel like I've already heard it.

That's probably because I've heard about 4 out of the 10 songs.

Yeah I know. I've decided that I won't listen to anymore leaked bootlegs or something like that untill the album's out. That makes it nicer to get the album.
I made the same promise to myself with the new Streetlight cd.

[asdf]

I rarely ever get leaked stuff. Espcially if it's stuff I don't care about that much.

[Henrik]

I only rarely do it either.

What kind of setlist do Against Me! play these days?

[asdf]

I know when I saw them it started with Walking is still Honest and Cliche Guevara. They played White People For Peace, Americans Abroad, two other new songs I think, and one of them might've been Up The Cuts. They also played The Energizer, Don't Lose Touch, and Rice and Bread. And ended with Pints of Guiness. The encore was The Disco Before the Breakdown and another song that I can't remember.

There's video of the whole show I was at excluding the encore.

[TakeWarning]

Claim it: Seeing Against Me! on my birthday!!!1

Hopefully they won't play much of their newer stuff. Apparently New Wave goes for 40 minutes even though it only has ten songs. I'm already put off it.

[username77]

I'm seeing Against Me! with Cursive and Mastadon next month.
I'm mostly going for Cursive. Mastadon's a joke.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I'm going to that show for Against Me!, but only because I was out of town when they headlined at a small venue. I'm kind of expecting it will be terrible.

[TakeWarning]

I like Mastodon. But seeing them with Cursive and Against Me! would be odd. It's such an innapropriate mix of styles.

[Henrik]

Agreed. why don't Against Me! ever play together with good bands anymore?

At Live at C.O.R.E. Tom thanks The Devil Is Electric and This Bike Is A Pipe Bomb for letting him play the show, Against Me! should play shows like that again.

[Liebensaft]

Against Me! with This Bike is a Pipe Bomb would be one of the greatest events of my life.

[Henrik]

Tom Gabel - Live at C.O.R.E. for everyone to enjoy:
h t t p : / / w w w . m e g a u p l o a d . c o m / ? d = O P 6 R 6 D P L
It's so awesome!!!

Mods, if this is very illegal feel free to edit....

[Johnny Quest.]

Anyone seen the cover art for New Wave.

If the quality of the cover is anything like the quality of the album, we're in for a shocker.

[Henrik]

I haven't, where can I see it?

[Cocaine]

http://www.punknews.org/images/covers/against_me-new_wave.jpg

[asdf]

It's like:
http://www.scissorkick.com/blog/images/ratatat2.gif

But not as good.

[Henrik]

Hmm I don't get it, is it a tiger or what is it?
It looks alright though.

[Flagjacket]

If the quality of the cover is anything like the quality of the album, we're in for a shocker.

Shockingly lazy?

[Liebensaft]

I think it's kinda cool, but yeah, pretty simplistic. I have low expectations, so I would love it if it was actually good music.

[Flagjacket]

Drawing connections between album cover and quality of music is irrelevant. I mean:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/7381.jpg

[asdf]

Drawing connections between album cover and quality of music is irrelevant. I mean:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/7381.jpg
I can't get that to work.

But I don't care what an album cover looks like, and I don't judge the music based off of it. But the first thing it made me think of was ratatat.

[AIRIC]

I enjoy album covers more and more lately but I don't really expect much from AM! covers.

[Liebensaft]

I don't know if any of you knew, but Cursive is really cool. At least The Ugly Organ is. I'm anxious to see them. Just not really Mastodon.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I saw Against Me! last night, and I've now officially given up on trying to get in to the new stuff. Ughh.

[SkaRobotArmy]

well their old stuff was really simple. so if the album IS anything like the cover, it should be better? AM covers are kinda cool but usually irrelevant.

[Spenser]

Yeah who really gives a f'uck about what their album cover looks like. Quit looking for things to complain about.

[bawjustice]

i love against me!

all my frioends said the last cd blew but i though ti was pretty good. not as good the first two but still a great cd. i have soem hopes for the new one but i hate butch vig who is the guy producing it. he will take out all the folk/punk style they have and make it monster rock guitars. wich is not something i think of when i thnk about against me.

time will only tell

[Henrik]

Bump!
Ok so... There's a new album out in like two weeks and had it been two years ago we would already have 20 pages with people discussing how excited they are. Times have changed since then. Who's excited?

I am, well kind of. I don't know what to expect really. Searching For A Former Clarity was a huge letdown, but I must admit I liked a few songs.
So far the only thing I've heard from the new album is that "White People For Peace" song, which didn't impress me too much but at the same time it wasn't as bad as Don't Lose Touch was when it came out as a single.

I'm seeing them 3 days before their new record is out, and I really really hope that they'll play a good set.


What are your thoughts about this upcomming album from Against Me! ?

[asdf]

I'll download it when it comes out, but I'm not excited, and I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Henrik]

I saw on interpunk that there are two versions, one of them includes a bonus dvd. What is on that dvd, does anybody know that?

[Intransit]

****ing stoked on life for it?

It has apparently leaked according to a few places.

[asdf]

The album cover looks like a ferret yawning.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Yeah, it leaked. I'm downloading it now. I'm really expecting to fully hate this album.

[Converge#12]

Yeah, it leaked. I'm downloading it now. I'm really expecting to fully hate this album.

Got it. It blows, no one get your hopes up unless you like the idea of the Killers featuring Tom Gabel singing shitty lyrics that are sung to softly.

[Rise Me Up]

Do you have soulseek? If not could ya yousendit me it? I know it sucks but I'd still like to hear it.

[Converge#12]

Do you have soulseek? If not could ya yousendit me it? I know it sucks but I'd still like to hear it. I'll put it in my soulseek folder converge12 is my username

[Rise Me Up]

Cool thanks.

[Henrik]

What's it like? What's it Like? That's it like?

[Rise Me Up]

It's not good. Up the cuts is a decent song until the chorus comes, and Americans Abroad isn't so bad. Piss and Vinegar is okay and that's about the only songs that don't completely suck.

[Converge#12]

What's it like? What's it Like? That's it like?

If you know anyone who sells dirty coke tell them to sell it to Tom so he goes into a f'ucking coma for a bit and maybe when he comes out he will write a better ****ing album.

[asdf]

I said I wouldn't download it before it actually came out, but what the hell.

[lynch_me]

This album has no punch to it.

[Liebensaft]

This album has no punch to it.

That's a good way of putting it. The music isn't bad, and it's a pretty ok album. It's just not at all aggressive like earlier releases, and not as fun to listen to. Against Me! aren't going to write another Reinventing Axl Rose.

[Intransit]

Yeah you know this album sucks because it has poppy choruses and they never did that before even in songs like "We Laugh at Danger" or "Pints of Guiness" or "Cliche Guevara" or hell even "What We Worked For"

God you all ****ing suck.

[Rise Me Up]

Just because it has poppy choruses, and some of their previous releases had poppy choruses doesn't make the new songs good.

[AIRIC]

I think if you come into this thread defending Against Me you're missing the point.

[Liebensaft]

Not necessarily. It's for discussion of the band, which is potentially praise/defense, but lately has been more attacking and criticizing.

[lynch_me]

Kids all over internet land are critiquing this record.