Finger placement for this arpeggio.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

Hey guys. I'm trying to advance my one-hand arpeggio playing ability, because it is one of my weaknesses.

I decided to use the arpeggio from Chopin's "Etude In Cm Op 10, No 12".

It goes like this: C > G > C8va > D > Eb > D > C8va > G.

Now, I'm fingering this like this: 5, 2, 1, 3, 2, 3, 1, 2.

Would you recommend continuing like this?

[Ned]

Hey guys. I'm trying to advance my one-hand arpeggio playing ability, because it is one of my weaknesses.

I decided to use the arpeggio from Chopin's "Etude In Cm Op 10, No 12".

It goes like this: C > G > C8va > D > Eb > D > C8va > G.

Now, I'm fingering this like this: 5, 2, 1, 3, 2, 3, 1, 2.

Would you recommend continuing like this?

This is the Revolutionary, right? It's been a while since I played it. The fingering you're using seems perfectly workable, and it's probably the most obvious. I suppose you could cross over with four instead, but I don't really see the point.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

It most certianly is. It's one of my favourites.

I prefer the Water(?) Etude I think it is. Op 25, No 12. It's just, like, massive arpeggios, but they're too intense for me.

Yeah, I had the sheet music on the net and I memorised the notes, then walked to the piano, and chose the fingering I posted, and just then I re-checked to see if the sheet-music had fingerings and it did, and they're the same as what I chose.

Thanks for your help, unless I'm mistaken - you've helped me with every question that I've posted in P/K.

Now explain four-part vocal harmony to me, :upset:.

[Speedy Fingers]

Is it a left hand arpeggio? If so, then the fingering is ok.

If it's a right, then it should be 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1.

[Det_Nosnip]

wait....what does 8va mean again? Is that an octave up, or octave down? and what do the < and > signs mean?

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

8va = Octave higher. I always remember it like this: 8va = above. 8vb = below.

The lessthan/greaterthan signs are just there to indicate the order, really. I could have used anything, or nothing at all.

[Det_Nosnip]

Oh, ok. Yeah, I figured that out eventually. Speedy was right - the fingerings are for the left hand, right? How come you don't just play it like this:

5, 2, 1, 4, 3, 4, 1, 2

Uses more fingers, but none of the fingers have to move....

The arpeggio seems to be ALOT more difficult on the right hand. :p For the right hand, I feel it's easier to just move the thumb and index finger for the D/Eb part....too much of a stretch to mimick what the left hand is doing.

[Speedy Fingers]

Oh, ok. Yeah, I figured that out eventually. Speedy was right - the fingerings are for the left hand, right? How come you don't just play it like this:

5, 2, 1, 4, 3, 4, 1, 2

Uses more fingers, but none of the fingers have to move....

The arpeggio seems to be ALOT more difficult on the right hand. :p For the right hand, I feel it's easier to just move the thumb and index finger for the D/Eb part....too much of a stretch to mimick what the left hand is doing.
1. In all honesty, I find the fingering you provided to be a pretty pointless stretch when the same results are achieved witha 3, 2 of the left hand.

2. With the right hand, can't you manage a 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1?

I thought that'd easily be the best one seeing as very little movement is involved. Having to play those last two notes with the thumb and index is a really unecessary stretch IMO.

But, whatever.

[Det_Nosnip]

Oh. Haha....I'm really bad with this sort of notation....the D and Eb are in the next octave up?

That's alot easier. I was trying to hit the D and Eb of the lower octave....hence the stretch. :eek: Trying to play the arpeggio with both hands at once is a nice challenge. That's a really beautiful sounding pattern, though....I'm digging it. :cool:

[Speedy Fingers]

Oh. Haha....I'm really bad with this sort of notation....the D and Eb are in the next octave up?

That's alot easier. I was trying to hit the D and Eb of the lower octave....hence the stretch. :eek: Trying to play the arpeggio with both hands at once is a nice challenge. That's a really beautiful sounding pattern, though....I'm digging it. :cool:
It doesn't matter man, these confusions happen.

PS. I did it hands together first time. NO MISTAKES!

[Det_Nosnip]

Nice! Yeah, I got it too eventually. :) Am I crazy for thinking that this arpeggio sounds like Iron Maiden?

[Speedy Fingers]

It's just a Cm(add9). It could sound like a lot of things.

[Det_Nosnip]

add 9?

[Ned]

It's a left-hand arpeggio. The perfect fifth gap is characteristic of left-hand arpeggios, especially Chopin left-hand arpeggios, although Chopin supposedly got this sort of thing from John Field. You could call the chord Cmadd9 or else you could call the D a passing tone. "Add9" means there's no seventh, and thus the chord is not strictly tertian, which might be a bit prescient for Chopin.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

Ned, I love you. How do you know so much? Do you have a messenger of some sort? I really want to talk to you.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

PS. I did it hands together first time. NO MISTAKES!
Yeah... well... **** you, :upset:.

That's a really beautiful sounding pattern, though....I'm digging it.
Yeah, there is nothing I love more than the sound of a minor second.

Like in a Meshuggah song, there's a bit that goes:

Bb F Db8va C with the pedal held down, and the Db to C sounds so good.

It really is a great Chopin song, I'll upload it for you if you want. I'd love to upload it for Speedy and have him take a video of him playing it *hint hint*.

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah, that'd be great. :)

[Speedy Fingers]

Yeah... well... **** you, :upset:.


Yeah, there is nothing I love more than the sound of a minor second.

Like in a Meshuggah song, there's a bit that goes:

Bb F Db8va C with the pedal held down, and the Db to C sounds so good.

It really is a great Chopin song, I'll upload it for you if you want. I'd love to upload it for Speedy and have him take a video of him playing it *hint hint*.
Pish posh.

I'll take a look at it, but I doubt i'll have the time during college. If you had asked me earlier, I probably would've said yes. Send away.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

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Replace xx with tt.

[Speedy Fingers]

Got the sheet music?

[Hells Bells]

Here it is:

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YG8TBMYRISZW1CFC0O2ELIRPB

[Speedy Fingers]

The left hand for this is a beast! I don't think i'm going to attempt it.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

:(.

[Det_Nosnip]

Hehe. NO.

That is ****ing FAST!! :eek: Those crazy runs...*dreams of one day being able to play this at half tempo*

It sounds amazing, though. Thanks for the uploads, guys!

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

I know, it's a crazy song.

I <3 it.

(Check out my other thread plz)