The official "Bad users/bad reviews"-report thread

[Storm In A Teacup]

are you supposed to be able to see when somebody negs your review, because if you are, i don't think i ever have, just checking

also i get the feeling that kripes is trying to pick everything i do to pieces

Not hardly, I admit to criticising you on most of your reviews, but it is so that you take more time when writing a review and not to churn out poor review after poor review that I could easily write in less than half an hour. I even thought of voting for your Blink review.

You can't look at who negs. your reviews.

Thx for the defense Galapogos

[innerdark]

i meant if they get negged, not who by

and u are right galapogos, maybe i am paranoid

[DFelon204409]

Does anyone find a disconnect here?

25 comments // 12600 views

It's pretty obvious that fireflies is refreshing his/her review over and over to keep it as the top album of the week. This is a misrepresentation of the site and also is just a wanker move. I mean come on, American Idiot, the site's most popular album, only has about 11000, views.

[pulseczar]

i noticed that too a while ago. It was quite suspicious since there are only 2 pages of comments, not a mainstream album like say American Idiot, and hasn't been swamped with fanboyism

this (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?bandid=1262) "band" has no albums, and probably stands for "various artists" which already exists under "various artists". So delete it I guess.

[Storm In A Teacup]

+TheCrowing+-Banned indefinitely for plagiarism. This definitely took place in his reviews of

Faith No More-Angel Dust
Radiohead-OK Computer
The Mars Volta-Tremulant
The Suicide Machines-Destruction By Definition
At the Drive In - Relationship of Command
The Aquabats-The Fury Of The Aquabats

Not surprising, he turned in 9 reviews in, I think three days.

[Neoteric]

Not surprising, he turned in 9 reviews in, I think three days.
I could do that and make them good! But apparently I have a social life.

[Shadows]

Can I have someone banned just because they're pissing me off and I hate them?

[Jom]

Can I have someone banned just because they're pissing me off and I hate them?

I wish it was that easy, believe me :-\

[Shadows]

This guy Cravinov13 is relatively new and has managed to piss me off pretty quickly. I'm so impressed, I'd appreciate it if Med or Damrod would reward him with a band.

I'll consider it a personal favor. :( Any chance?

[Killtacular]

I'm all for it, but unfortunately, it's just not cool to ban people because you don't like them. Not cool at all.

[something vague]

God apologizes about the Egyptians. :upset:

[Damrod]

This guy Cravinov13 is relatively new and has managed to piss me off pretty quickly. I'm so impressed, I'd appreciate it if Med or Damrod would reward him with a band.

I'll consider it a personal favor. :( Any chance?

Can you give some examples for comments by him? (For the case I can not find anything when I go looking after this post has been written) I'll have a look into it and see what needs to be done

EDIT: First things I could gather don't show anything ban-worthy I'm afraid. Any stuff to back it up?

[Shadows]

Can you give some examples for comments by him? (For the case I can not find anything when I go looking after this post has been written) I'll have a look into it and see what needs to be done

EDIT: First things I could gather don't show anything ban-worthy I'm afraid. Any stuff to back it up?
No, I'm afraid Scruples is right. :( Technically speaking, he hasn't said anything ban-worthy, he was just making stupid comments that pissed me off. We'll let him go...for now. :evil:

[Damrod]

Anyways, give us a shout should he/she step the line. :)

[Shadows]

Now I've got something. :)

Someone really needs to explain to him what the album ratings are for. He rated the new Staind album a 5 just to "balance it out, because Staind doesn't deserve all the crap we give them". He also gave a rating to my latest review although he said flat out that he'd never heard it before. Also, this...

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/uservote.php?memberid=195928

...is ridiculous (referring to overabundence of 5 star ratings).

[DFelon204409]

Okay this is getting ridiculous. This is the 5th straight week that Panic! at the Disco CD has been in the "top 10" CDs. It's obvious fireflies in bumping this up by reloading his page. I'm going to mx ban him/her. Med and Damrod do what you want on sputnik.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3628

[Damrod]

I'll have a look at it, and if necessary ban him/her

EDIT: Seems like the user does not exist on mx anymore :confused:

[Jom]

EDIT: Seems like the user does not exist on mx anymore :confused:

Fireflies was Kif's back-up account when he got banned a few weeks ago.*

*If I remember correctly... which I probably am not doing.

[Damrod]

It disappeared from the charts after a quick update, maybe the update script did not run (or does not run that regulary after the vBulletin upgrade)

[Light Fantastic]

Okay this is getting ridiculous. This is the 5th straight week that Panic! at the Disco CD has been in the "top 10" CDs. It's obvious fireflies in bumping this up by reloading his page. I'm going to mx ban him/her. Med and Damrod do what you want on sputnik.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3628
The fact that he is refreshing the page is mere conjecture

[Toaster]

Cravinov13 seems to riddle every review with self-indulgent comments about nothing in particular. He's been warned, but I've been told to take the complaint to this thread.
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3866&genreid=47&page=6

[Shadows]

^^^ I second that. I'm not sure if a ban is needed, but he seems to act a little self-rightious on every topic and admits to breaking rules. It's annoying as all hell.

[pulseczar]

plus he's rated every nu-metal album in history a 5

[Apathy]

Ban him. Please. He keeps insisting that he is superior to everyone else on the site...plus, he believes that DevilDriver are death metal.

[DFelon204409]

I actually agree with this. DFelon, given that Fireflies is Kif, and he's never pulled a stunt like this before, and frankly seems very unlikely to be the sort of person that would do this, I don't think we can exactly accuse him of reloading the page repeatedly. If it is someone, I doubt it's him.



It's back now on the charts (assuming you'd updated it just now). I've been updating the site every 48 hours or so, and it's been around for ages, so I doubt the update script is the problem here.

While I have no legit way to show it was Kif without Kif admitting it himself, there's no vB update explanation for 14000 views. American Idiot, which is on 50+ playlists and has been commented on however many times doens't even have as many views as that Panic! at the Disco review, which only has 28 comments and is only a few playlists. Think about it. There's foulplay and after reading his retarded reviews and commentary I'm going to go out on a limb and straight up accuse him or accuse him at least for asking friends, or using a macro to refresh the page to bump it.

[DFelon204409]

Furthermore look how toolish his avatar is http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/image.php?u=90170&dateline=1130864819

[Light Fantastic]

Just because you don't like his avatar doesn't constitute a banning.

I doubt he would have sat there and refreshed it that many times.

[Neoteric]

Furthermore look how toolish his avatar is http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/image.php?u=90170&dateline=1130864819
like my avatar? :D

[Dave de Sylvia]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=2349&genreid=6&page=15#lastpost

Can the last 3 pages of this could be deleted and if possible everybody be banned? It's ridiculous, Cheeto-t and Galapagos should know better.

[pulseczar]

im actually quite embarrassed about the whole thing...

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ban lengths are here: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401914

[innerdark]

2 days, phew, i thought i was gonna get hit hard because the last few pages were more or less from some stupid thig i said about changing how pop-punk should be classified:upset:

[ocelot-05]

I have to say I'm glad Cravinov13 is taking a one week vacation. Whenever it comes to facts, he is wrong about pretty much everything, but he always refuses to accept he is wrong. He'll say things like "It's not my fault that everyone in here is an idiot. DevilDriver is death metal." Whenever it comes to opinions, he hardly ever backs up what he says. Good call, Med.

[innerdark]

yes, that will be sweet salvation, mind you i'm not exactly in the good books

also i forgot to thank med for giving me 2 days i thought it was going to be a lot,lot longer

ps, med would you mind terribly if i used an avatar similar to yours, because it's just so, darned cool

[pulseczar]

ahh i knew i was pushing my luck... but thanks for just making it two days, it won't happen again

[ocelot-05]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4151&genreid=7

Uhh..I'm not really sure about this guy. It appears that he doesn't have a user name, and he doesn't have an avatar. I have no idea where this comment came from, and I don't think I'm just missing out on some inside joke. I was pretty disgusted by that he said, though.

[DFelon204409]

Just because you don't like his avatar doesn't constitute a banning.

I doubt he would have sat there and refreshed it that many times.

You're one of those "clean" types.

Bannings to anyone who has an emo-ignorant avatar.

[Dave de Sylvia]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4151&genreid=7

Uhh..I'm not really sure about this guy. It appears that he doesn't have a user name, and he doesn't have an avatar. I have no idea where this comment came from, and I don't think I'm just missing out on some inside joke. I was pretty disgusted by that he said, though.
It's a fault in the system, I think. Sometimes individual's posts turn out with no name or avatar. I guess that person is lucky, though I'm sure they'll say something similarly awful.

[innerdark]

that is sick beyond sick

[innerdark]

good, that was taking somthing beyond the limits,

med you didn't answer, can i use an avatar similar to yours??

[Shadows]

Regular users are confined to 70x70 avatars. He gets a big one because he's a mod.

[Killtacular]

it is (was) some sort of odd glitch where people would sometimes post without a user name. I seem to remember Scruples using it a bit.
That did happen to me quite often. Twas quite frustrating, and annoying. Hasn't happened in a while, though.

[pulseczar]

vicy77 isn't banned as he should be and is running rampant

[Arrakakaka]

You know SELHIM? He still has a grudge against me just because I have a negative opinion of HIM. He negs my reviews. And now look at the albums he rated 1's;

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/uservote.php?memberid=183900

Then look at my playlist; http://www.sputnikmusic.com/myfavorites.php?type=1

Of course, my playlist has changed. But here are the albums he rated 1's that I had;
Meshuggah - I
Behold... The Arctopus - Nano-Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning EP
Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors
1349 - Liberation
A Day In Black And White - My Heros Have Allways Killed Cowboys
Agalloch - Pale Folklore
Terror - One With The Underdogs
Carcass - Heartwork

You call that a coincidence? I don't think so. He's abusing the system AGAIN. I'm sick of that little prick. I bet it's happened to the others that have a negative opinion on HIM.

[masada]

Deftones - Adrenaline (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=60&genreid=7&page=1#lastpost)

Delete.

[Storm In A Teacup]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3966&genreid=6&page=2#lastpost

Ugh...the other American Idiot review thread that Chillbee is now spamming up with comments like:

You rated almost every song a 5 when none deserve it.

That guy only rated 3 out of 13 a 5/5. She doesn't deserve a banning I don't think, but the comments need to be deleted.

[Damrod]

Deftones - Adrenaline (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=60&genreid=7&page=1#lastpost)

Delete.

Agreed and done.

You know SELHIM? He still has a grudge against me just because I have a negative opinion of HIM. He negs my reviews. And now look at the albums he rated 1's;

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/uservote.php?memberid=183900

Then look at my playlist; http://www.sputnikmusic.com/myfavorites.php?type=1

Of course, my playlist has changed. But here are the albums he negged that I had;
Meshuggah - I
Behold... The Arctopus - Nano-Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning EP
Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors
1349 - Liberation
A Day In Black And White - My Heros Have Allways Killed Cowboys
Agalloch - Pale Folklore
Terror - One With The Underdogs
Carcass - Heartwork

You call that a coincidence? I don't think so. He's abusing the system AGAIN. I'm sick of that little prick. I bet it's happened to the others that have a negative opinion on HIM.

I look into it. If it is really the case that he negs your reviews, I will delete all his votes on your reviews

EDIT: Seems like a coincidence, he has not neg-voted the reviews. Unless you mean his user rating, on that we do not have any influence

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3966&genreid=6&page=2#lastpost

Ugh...the other American Idiot review thread that Chillbee is now spamming up with comments like:



That guy only rated 3 out of 13 a 5/5. She doesn't deserve a banning I don't think, but the comments need to be deleted.

I'll have a look at that too. :)

EDIT: Taken care of and cleaned up a bit

[Arrakakaka]

EDIT: Seems like a coincidence, he has not neg-voted the reviews. Unless you mean his user rating, on that we do not have any influence.
Yeah, that's what I meant. He only negged my Agalloch review, but he rated a bunch of my favorite albums 1's 'cause I liked the albums just to get back at me. Sorry to bother you.

[Storm In A Teacup]

Damrod, I left a message in the American Idiot thread you cleaned up earlier and I hope it finally convinces people to stop spamming and leaving immature posts.

[Shadows]

Can anyone tell me why the date at the top of the review shows the current date instead of the date it was posted? It changes every day.

EDIT: omgz we have tags in the post boxes now! :eek: Or at least we did, for a little while. :upset:

[Jom]

Damrod, I left a message in the American Idiot thread you cleaned up earlier and I hope it finally convinces people to stop spamming and leaving immature posts.

Kripes, you are a lifesaver. Thank you so much for stepping up to the plate and making everyone quake in their seats at their computers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/frozeninshadows/ggkripes.jpg

[YDload]

Can anyone tell me why the date at the top of the review shows the current date instead of the date it was posted? It changes every day.

EDIT: omgz we have tags in the post boxes now! :eek: Or at least we did, for a little while. :upset:

It's the date the review was last commented on. You're probably just looking at the new ones so they're all the same.

[Shadows]

It's the date the review was last commented on. You're probably just looking at the new ones so they're all the same.
Oh, I see. I thought it was supposed to be the date the review was posted. That makes sense now. :)

[Dave de Sylvia]

Kripes, you are a lifesaver. Thank you so much for stepping up to the plate and making everyone quake in their seats at their computers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/frozeninshadows/ggkripes.jpg
Likewise :p

-WYSIWYG added to new review
What is this?

[Damrod]

I think by WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) he means the new style buttons for bold and italic for example, like it is known here from the forums

[pulseczar]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3225

come on, how has this review not been deleted?

[DFelon204409]

29 comments // 15628 views

I may be complaining about this a lot, but I think we should delete the review and reset it. The last time I complained about the review, it had about 14250 views and 28 replies. That last time I complained was November 2nd...3 days ago. This is absolutely ridiculous.

[Shadows]

Does it really matter? What effect does the number of views have on anything?

[Storm In A Teacup]

DFelon doesn't like that because it is keeping the album in the charts probably. I don't know if it is still in them however.

Edit: Yeah it still is in the top 12 at number 5.

[Jom]

Does anyone take the charts that seriously, though? I don't see the benefits of an album being in the charts, so I don't really look at them; they're just kind of there. Do they have any kind of significance? If not, then why does viewcount matter?

[Storm In A Teacup]

Does anyone take the charts that seriously, though? I don't see the benefits of an album being in the charts, so I don't really look at them; they're just kind of there. Do they have any kind of significance? If not, then why does viewcount matter?

It doesn't matter. It isn't important in any way and I don't care how many times a review by someone has been viewed, but I like to see how many views my reviews have gotten.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I've never looked at the charts. It's a part of the screen I've never viewed as important.

[Jom]

I've never looked at the charts. It's a part of the screen I've never viewed as important.

Same here.

[Neoteric]

It's not important. Chill DFelon.

[Damrod]

Though I do not really care for the charts that much either, Nick nevertheless has a point. That the review is in the charts for the fourth week or so in a row (1st place) is a bit out of place so to say.

We'll see what can be done

[Shadows]

Can mods look at who has viewed a review?

I'm guessing no.

[Damrod]

No, only who voted the review positive/negative

[Shadows]

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/album.php?reviewid=4182&genreid=4

Apparently he typed in the title instead of selecting the album from the dropdown box.

[DFelon204409]

I can understand why you don't care about the charts. However, the fact that reviews can be "bumped" and given front page priority through editing and refreshing pages means that anybody who writes a crappy pop punk review can misrepresent sputnikmusic. I assume that everybody who would bother reading this thread consistenly cares about the overall quality of sputnikmusic. That's why we write, read, grade, and whatever reviews. I care that all the reviews are as clean and intelligent as possible. In fact, I very rarely give positive responses to reviews because it's easy to find flaws in so many reviews. I personally uphold a very strict standard for reviews, so to see somebody promote their mediocre review beyond what it righfully deserves rather pisses me off. I dunno, maybe I'm being too hardline, but at least I care about how the site is presented to the internet.

[Jom]

[T]he fact that reviews can be "bumped" and given front page priority...

How is this any different from posting "bump" in one's review? Sputnikmusic shows, what, the twenty-five most recently-commented reviews to begin with? I don't follow.

[pulseczar]

this review (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2263) be too short

[DFelon204409]

How is this any different from posting "bump" in one's review? Sputnikmusic shows, what, the twenty-five most recently-commented reviews to begin with? I don't follow.

I think people who pointlessly bump their reviews should get one day bans. If nobody wants to talk about their stupid reviews they shouldn't be spamming up the site. I only bump my reviews when I have something relevant to add about it. Otherwise, nobody wants to read "bump" over and over. Hence, I think both parties should be banned.

[Jom]

I think people who pointlessly bump their reviews should get one day bans. If nobody wants to talk about their stupid reviews they shouldn't be spamming up the site. I only bump my reviews when I have something relevant to add about it. Otherwise, nobody wants to read "bump" over and over. Hence, I think both parties should be banned.

I understand. What I am not following is when you write, "both" parties. One party is the "bump" party, but what's the second party? I have a feeling I'm missing something here.

[Storm In A Teacup]

Don't you think you should be talking about this in the Sputnik Community thread? Jom you created it so Damrod wouldn't blow a gasket and become the Sputnik version of Himmler and Goering didn't you?

[DFelon204409]

Ya, seeing as how Med bans people who bump, anybody who refreshes their reviews to keep it top 10 every week should also be banned for "stealing" front page space. Jom, the other "party" are those who soft bump their reviews by refreshing it so many times it appears as a "top review of the week."

[Storm In A Teacup]

I only type bump when I vote Yes that a review was helpfull that's what I thought it meant to do that.

[Jom]

Jom, the other "party" are those who soft bump their reviews by refreshing it so many times it appears as a "top review of the week."

Ah, alright, thanks.

But as it stands, it doesn't seem like anyone can tell if the reviewer him/herself is guilty, or if it's someone else. Until there's a more concrete way of knowing for sure who's responsible for doing that, I don't think people can be banned for it.

I understand your position.

[Iai]

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/album.php?reviewid=4196&genreid=6

Controversy on the high seas! :eek:

[Storm In A Teacup]

Yeah, I was thinking of reporting that to. The guy already admitted to stealling at least one comment from Music Official's review. He should be banned if the Med or Damrod find the reviews to be close in comparison, I don't know yet I haven't looked at Music Officials.

[Shadows]

Hahah, you called him the Med. :lol:

It doesn't look that similar. I say have him edit out the few comments he ripped off, or else be subject to an onslaught of neg-voting.

[DFelon204409]

In an ironic twist of fate, my Thrice review is the top for this week, but it didn't jump 10000 views in a week. I bet one of you mofos bumped the thing to make my commentary here silly. That, or the update makes the updates really off base / delayed, because there was a lot of commentary a few days ago but there hasn't been any since.

[Storm In A Teacup]

In an ironic twist of fate, my Thrice review is the top for this week, but it didn't jump 10000 views in a week. I bet one of you mofos bumped the thing to make my commentary here silly. That, or the update makes the updates really off base / delayed, because there was a lot of commentary a few days ago but there hasn't been any since.


You're just getting paranoid now.

[DesolationRow]

Can you please delete Shuffle It All's posts in my Contraband review,

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3300&genreid=2&page=2#lastpost

His posts are purely stupid, and somewhat contradicting. Here's one...


i cannot agree with the majority of your review here, i think its pretty biased twards your opinion on the songs, and not actually what the songs are like. For example, you say that slash stuggles on sucker train blues, it been voted in the top ten guitar tracks of all the tracks slash has done in total guitar.

Also the songs that you like the most, headspace and specatcle, to me are the worst, pretty boring and bland songs that dont hold their own half as much as sucker train blues or do it for the kids.

[Shadows]

Mods, can you delete the album ratings given bu users? It's obvious this SELHIM moron was rating albums low just to spite other people. For instance, this review:

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/album.php?reviewid=1323&genreid=8

He's invalidating the entire system! :mad: The general concensus on this album is much higher than what it shows, thanks to his faulty vote!

[Damrod]

I'm afraid we can't help. We can delet neg-votes, but we have no influence on the ratings given out by a user. Sorry!

[Shadows]

Oh man. :( Nobody rates Heartwork so low. NOBODY. :mad:

[Storm In A Teacup]

Maybe it could be changed to when you click submit rating, maybe it would take you to the bottom of the screen where you type a post with the rating in the actual thing. Like when you click on go advanced here in the forums.

[Damrod]

Well, SELHIM could change it. Users can change their own rating. But we mods can not change other peoples ratings. And I doubt mx will make this possible. I mean, yeah, you disagree with the rating he gave out, but he did as well with the rating you gave to HIM. You think it sucks, he does not.

In the end it's up to one's personal taste. And everyone's up for his/her own opinion. As hard as it is to accept sometimes

[Shadows]

He's already been banned for it, I believe. Apparently him and Unstable Mind started fighting so SELHIM started rating giving 1's to albums UM liked.

Bastard!

[Storm In A Teacup]

Jom never answered your question if he disliked me.

[Storm In A Teacup]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3966&genreid=6&page=2#lastpost

is 1039 on crack?

Does that count as spam?

[pulseczar]

I'd answer the question for him, but it'd just result in another banning again.


In the B section, 'Bob Marley & the Wailers" appears twice. this one (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?bandid=1890) is the one with no bands, so delete it.

[masada]

I think the multiple negs in a good portion of my reviews need to be checked out.

[Storm In A Teacup]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4220&genreid=6

Can Damrod or The Mederator check to see if either of the two neg votes in this were voted on by people that actually posted in the review. Thanks.

[Shadows]

It's possible people truly didn't like the review. We should all keep that in mind.

[Storm In A Teacup]

I know that, but don't you think if they are going to neg a review, that they should comment in the review also?

Edit: I'm all by myself here-the only one online. It makes me feel small and lonely.

[Storm In A Teacup]

One user who neg voted it did, one didn't. The one who didn't has posted in other reviews of that album, so there's nothing we can do really.



Alright

[Damrod]

Cleaning time. A new report thread has been opened, please visit it here (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411856) if you want to report anything