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infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 02:26 AM
From this day forth the DS will conquer the handheld market
Nintendogs (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/nintendogschihuahuaandfriends/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_read)
Advance Wars DS (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/advancewarsds/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_ds_flashtop_read)
By the end of this year the DS lineup will be ****ing A



a new PSP game also came out, http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/deathjr/review.html

AA-12
08-20-2005, 02:27 AM
There's no way I'd ever buy a DS, unless it got very cheap. My PSP is so much better :-)

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 02:38 AM
PSP does have death jr I guess, and there is that fifty cent game coming soon.

AA-12
08-20-2005, 02:39 AM
The Web Browser and other features are what really makes it so great i'd say. Pretty good games coming out too.

Sebek
08-20-2005, 02:44 AM
and there is that fifty cent game coming soon.

What joy.

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 02:59 AM
There's no way I'd ever buy a DS, unless it got very cheap. My PSP is so much better :-)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/infinate_ammo/TSASIsucks.jpg

AA-12
08-20-2005, 03:10 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/infinate_ammo/TSASIsucks.jpg
Good one.

thursdaythrice
08-20-2005, 04:33 AM
I dont see whats the purpose of buying a psp,there awesome and everything but there exspensive,games are medicore,and to me,seems like a lot of **** to it,

But the ds on the other hand,i never found the appeal to it

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 04:41 AM
I dont see whats the purpose of buying a psp
Should have stopped there

bobbass4k
08-20-2005, 04:43 AM
everyones saying psp is so much better than the ds, but if the psp just played games, the ds would be far superior

rippa32
08-20-2005, 05:00 AM
Should have stopped there

FACT: Everybody hates fanboys.

Amorpha
08-20-2005, 05:04 AM
http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=8137
http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=8121

All this is bringing me closer and closer to buying a DS - I think I'll get one in a few months or when there's a price drop in the UK; whichever's sooner.

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 05:37 AM
FACT: Everybody hates fanboys.
playstation > 64
ps2 > Gamecube
I'm not a fanboy

bobbass4k
08-20-2005, 05:42 AM
Snes > everything
Dreamcast > Ps2
Gamecube > everything

Esp Griffyn
08-20-2005, 06:17 AM
Advance wars isnt as god as anything on the PSP, Advance wars is on of themost Ciminally overrated and Boring game series ever.

Amorpha
08-20-2005, 06:29 AM
Advance wars isnt as god as anything on the PSP, Advance wars is on of themost Ciminally overrated and Boring game series ever.
50 Cent: Bulletproof
Ape Escape Academy
ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin' Trails
Crash Dummy vs. the Evil D-Troit
Crazy Racing: Kart Rider
Death Jr.
F1 Grand Prix
Frogger Helmet Chaos
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer
Neopets Petpet Adventure: The Wand of Wishing
Pac-Man World 3
Smart Bomb
Spider-Man 2
Tiger Woods PGA Tour
World Poker Tour 2K6
X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Fair enough that you don't like Advance Wars, but it's easily one of the best games in its genre and is highly acclaimed for a reason. Don't flame a game just because it's not the sort of game you like.

rippa32
08-20-2005, 06:41 AM
playstation > 64
ps2 > Gamecube
I'm not a fanboy

Ok fair enough but dont post pics like that TSASI sucks one just because he likes PSP and you dont.

Esp Griffyn
08-20-2005, 06:53 AM
Fair enough that you don't like Advance Wars, but it's easily one of the best games in its genre and is highly acclaimed for a reason. Don't flame a game just because it's not the sort of game you like.

Hey, Im all for strategy games, I just cant standAdvance Wars.

Amorpha
08-20-2005, 06:59 AM
Hey, Im all for strategy games, I just cant standAdvance Wars.
Fair enough. From my experience it seems to attract people who are into turn-based games, puzzle games, TRPGs and (funnily enough) chess as opposed to RTS games, despite the theme of the game. However, you can't say it's worse than all the games I listed :p

edit: I guess you're really not a DS person, but this (http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=8121) might interest you anyway.

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 07:32 AM
edit: I guess you're really not a DS person, but this (http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=8121) might interest you anyway.
He probably wont be interested, becuz pSP haz beter graFiX

Amorpha
08-20-2005, 07:35 AM
He probably wont be interested, becuz pSP haz beter graFiX
I guess that explains why every single PSP game is better than Advance Wars DS.

thomas is fast
08-20-2005, 08:24 AM
I'll never buy one. Unless one is given to me by somebody that has lots and lots of money, you will not see me with one.

I don't like the games. Just Super Mario 64 DS.

BigTrav415
08-20-2005, 10:49 AM
infinate-ammo, I think it's safe to say you're a DS fanboy. Youa re always making DS threads and constantly replying to everyone that says anything against the DS with either badly-spelled flames or weird pictures saying "You suck. Just because you think that PS > 64 or PS2 > GC doesn't mean you're not a fanboy in the DS area.

Angry Balled Fists!
08-20-2005, 11:13 AM
I sold my DS because i don't like Hand-Helds.

I'm not gonna get a PSP either.

Kingofdudes
08-20-2005, 11:32 AM
Check your rep infinate_tardcart :-*

OnePartHarmony
08-20-2005, 11:46 AM
I was thinking of buying a DS, sice I heard a price drop was near. I played one at Target, and the game was genuinly challenging. "I can't watch two screens at once!" I screamed, seconds before my head exploded.

AA-12
08-20-2005, 01:57 PM
everyones saying psp is so much better than the ds, but if the psp just played games, the ds would be far superior
Not hardly. The games for PSP are way better than any i've seen for DS.

Amorpha
08-20-2005, 02:09 PM
Not hardly. The games for PSP are way better than any i've seen for DS.
okay

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 06:09 PM
Check your rep infinate_tardcart :-*Mega

Turkish
08-20-2005, 07:01 PM
played them both, I personally like PSP better.


Why even make these threads, it's so pointless because all you're going to do is piss people off.

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 07:03 PM
Why even make these threads, it's so pointless because all you're going to do is piss people off.
You answered your own question there buddy

Turkish
08-20-2005, 07:05 PM
k.

Isn't this like the third "DS is better" thread you've made?

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 07:09 PM
prove it

Turkish
08-20-2005, 07:11 PM
I don't feel like wasting time with this, so I won't.

Rockafella
08-20-2005, 07:15 PM
I have booooooth. :)

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 07:16 PM
Oh thats right this is the first DS is better thread ive made

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 07:17 PM
I have booooooth. :)
Did your daddy buy them both for you precious?

Rockafella
08-20-2005, 07:17 PM
Did your daddy buy them both for you precious?
No I did.










































































cough

infinate_ammo
08-20-2005, 07:23 PM
With your daddys money though? Right precious?

BigTrav415
08-21-2005, 08:38 PM
With your daddys money though? Right precious?
Man you're a dick. What are you like 8? You obviously don't realize some people actually have jobs, or are even able to grasp the concept of workig for your money.Oh, right, you're banned. Finally. Don't go postal and spam-attack us though. And yeah, it might have been your actual first "DS is better" thread that you've made, but in every other thread in the forum, you've made a pro-DS comment (and usually an anti-PSP one too)
Example:
In the Tony Hawk Soundtrack thread
"Just buy the DS version it'll have no songs"

No, it will have the same songs but much less quality. Stop holding a DS-parade, noone cares. You don't have to turn every non-related thread into an anti-PSP propaganda thread. Go to Camp Hyrule or something.
And I'm only posting this because I know you're reading it, because you probably have nothing better to do than read your old threads while you're banned. Have a fun time.

StaticSynth
08-21-2005, 11:15 PM
The threadstarters an ***, but the DS still far surpasses the PSP in terms of software for the year. Just look at their upcoming release lists. No real contest unless you, for some inexplicable reason, want watered down PS2 ports or games based on old PS2 game engines. Few interesting original games on the PSP's horizon (Infected, Legend of Heroes seem interesting). Whereas, the DS' hardware has guaranteed a wealth of unique games you can't find anywhere else. Electroplankton, Meteos, and Warioware Touched convinced me to get a DS months ago. Mario Kart DS online, Nintendogs, Boktai DS, Advance Wars DS, New Super Mario Bros, and Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrows are just some DS games genuinely worth looking forward to.

Amorpha
08-22-2005, 06:10 AM
The threadstarters an ***, but the DS still far surpasses the PSP in terms of software for the year. Just look at their upcoming release lists. No real contest unless you, for some inexplicable reason, want watered down PS2 ports or games based on old PS2 game engines. Few interesting original games on the PSP's horizon (Infected, Legend of Heroes seem interesting). Whereas, the DS' hardware has guaranteed a wealth of unique games you can't find anywhere else. Elektroplankton, Meteos, and Warioware Touched convinced me to get a DS months ago. Mario Kart DS online, Nintendogs, Boktai DS, Advance Wars DS, New Super Mario Bros, and Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrows are just some DS games genuinely worth looking forward to.
:eek: Boktai DS and a new Castlevania? That, along with the fact that the demo of New Super Mario Bros ruled, has pretty much convinced me to get a DS.

BigTrav415
08-22-2005, 11:25 AM
The threadstarters an ***, but the DS still far surpasses the PSP in terms of software for the year. Just look at their upcoming release lists. No real contest unless you, for some inexplicable reason, want watered down PS2 ports or games based on old PS2 game engines. Few interesting original games on the PSP's horizon (Infected, Legend of Heroes seem interesting). Whereas, the DS' hardware has guaranteed a wealth of unique games you can't find anywhere else. Elektroplankton, Meteos, and Warioware Touched convinced me to get a DS months ago. Mario Kart DS online, Nintendogs, Boktai DS, Advance Wars DS, New Super Mario Bros, and Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrows are just some DS games genuinely worth looking forward to.
Finally someone who has a real argument for the DS... I agree with you on the fact that there is a lot of OG software coming out for the DS, but it remains to be seen how much is actually any good. PSP has been somewhat consistent at least with it's releases (all but a very few were good, solid games), while DS has been.... below-average in that department. And DS hasn't had aything come out for it in a long while... my friens who own a DS were telling me that they pushed all their summer releases into the fall for some reason, and it wasn't for debugging or polishing, they just sort of quietly did it. I have all hopes that the DS and PSP both do well though, don't get me wrong. But I really woudn't call all the new PSP games "watered-down PS2 ports or PS2-engine driven games". The DS is just a slightly upgraded Game Boy with a touch screen hardware-wise (I don't care what you say Nintendo, it IS a Game Boy), while the PSP had better hardware and capabilities than any other product, gaming system or not, it's size. I think even the most die-hard DS fan has to ask themselves; Why the hell did Nintendo use these TINY LITTLE F*CKING CARRTRIDGES!!! My little ister has lost a whole bunch of her DS games becasue they are so small... sorry, I'm getting off track. I guess what I'm rying to say is, both systems have a good software line-up coming up, and hopefully they'll both do well :thumb:
/secretly wants Nintendogs and Animal Crossing DS reeeeeeaaaaalll bad.

rbv
08-22-2005, 11:30 AM
Cartridges > UMD

Unless the costs for umd discs go down then I would think the cartridges are just as good, if not better.

Phalanx
08-22-2005, 11:36 AM
im actually very disapointed with both. The DS is completely blown out of the water by the PSP's power but the PSP has such a terrible design, in other words, from a enthusiast like me, they are both very disapointing. The lack of games also contributes to the great disapointment I have for both handheld devices

The Buttloaves
08-22-2005, 11:38 AM
Nintendogs sucked. I played it. I played with a rope. Hooray

BigTrav415
08-22-2005, 12:00 PM
^I'd actually disagree with you there. I played it at EB Games, and it was really addictive, even with the very limited options on the demo. The graphics were also above-par for the DS. Finally, Nintendo makes a quality originalgame for the DS. I won't buy a DS to get it, but my little sister is getting it, so I'll just play hers.

Games right now I'd get if I got a DS:
Advance Wars: Dual Strike (I <3 Advance Wars)
Super Mario 64 DS (meh, I'd play on N64 mostly)
Nintendogs
Animal Crossing DS (when it comes out)

Phalanx
08-22-2005, 12:30 PM
^I'd actually disagree with you there. I played it at EB Games, and it was really addictive, even with the very limited options on the demo. The graphics were also above-par for the DS. Finally, Nintendo makes a quality originalgame for the DS. I won't buy a DS to get it, but my little sister is getting it, so I'll just play hers.

Games right now I'd get if I got a DS:
Advance Wars: Dual Strike (I <3 Advance Wars)
Super Mario 64 DS (meh, I'd play on N64 mostly)
Nintendogs
Animal Crossing DS (when it comes out)

its not really original, remember Catz on the PC?

BigTrav415
08-22-2005, 01:20 PM
its not really original, remember Catz on the PC?
...No, I don't. But my point anyway is that it's one of the first games on DS made by Nintendo that's not a continuation from another system (i.e. Advance Wars, Mario, Kirby, etc.) There's actually been a lot of articles in magazines and on the internet recently about how few "original" properties are being put out on the market today; everything is either sequels or continuations of other games. Really, look at your game collection, and see how many games are the first or only of that game (not a sequel or continuation, i.e. Jak 2 or Mario Anything besides Mario Bros.) it's because developers like to stick to a tried-and-true formula that they know will attract gamers. In this day and age, what with development costs and royalties, developers often have to make a game a million-seller just to break even with the creation costs (just fyi, Fable was the only original property game to break the Top 50 best selling games of 2004.) Therefore they try to stick to stuff they know will sell well. Good for Nintendo to take this step :thumb:

AA-12
08-22-2005, 03:23 PM
im actually very disapointed with both. The DS is completely blown out of the water by the PSP's power but the PSP has such a terrible design, in other words, from a enthusiast like me, they are both very disapointing. The lack of games also contributes to the great disapointment I have for both handheld devices
Terrible design? What?

Phalanx
08-22-2005, 03:28 PM
Terrible design? What?

well, I have quite large hands, their not enormous but they are fairly large hands, the device had nothing to hold onto, so I found myself having to really bend my fingers in order to get to the shoulder buttons and the little analog stick is in such a retard position that I physically cannot reach it unless I put the PSP on my finger tips, my thumbs when im holding it are where the shoulder buttons are. I on the other find the DS to be very comfortable

AA-12
08-22-2005, 03:32 PM
well, I have quite large hands, their not enormous but they are fairly large hands, the device had nothing to hold onto, so I found myself having to really bend my fingers in order to get to the shoulder buttons and the little analog stick is in such a retard position that I physically cannot reach it unless I put the PSP on my finger tips, my thumbs when im holding it are where the shoulder buttons are. I on the other find the DS to be very comfortable
Uh, I have huge hands and have absolutely no problem whatsoever.

Kurrpt
08-22-2005, 03:44 PM
i have yet to see anything amazing come out for this system.

I would say the same thing about the PSP, but i learned to hack SNES games, and that beats anything on the market for either system :lol:

AA-12
08-22-2005, 03:46 PM
i have yet to see anything amazing come out for this system.

I would say the same thing about the PSP, but i learned to hack SNES games, and that beats anything on the market for either system :lol:
I had 1.0 but I decided to go on to 2.0. I can't play SNES, but that's fine with me.

Kurrpt
08-22-2005, 03:47 PM
whyd u do 2.0?


web browser?

BigTrav415
08-22-2005, 04:46 PM
You know when I first got my PSP I was really into all the hacks and stuff, but for some reason I never got the SNES emulator, which is odd, because I would LOVE to play SNES games on my PSP. I guess I'll get it now, since I haven't upgraded to 2.0 yet. I'll just wait for them to make some good hacks for 2.0 before I upgrade, I don't have a wireless router anyway for the web browser; just a normal wired hub.

EDIT: On a side note, I just rented Lumines, but my PSP is dead, and I can't find my charger! Arrggghhh!!!!

Amorpha
08-22-2005, 04:57 PM
well, I have quite large hands, their not enormous but they are fairly large hands, the device had nothing to hold onto, so I found myself having to really bend my fingers in order to get to the shoulder buttons and the little analog stick is in such a retard position that I physically cannot reach it unless I put the PSP on my finger tips, my thumbs when im holding it are where the shoulder buttons are. I on the other find the DS to be very comfortable
I have big hands, and I agree.

tsl_ste
08-22-2005, 06:28 PM
incase it hasn't been said, the new 50 cent game on the PSP will be a top view shooter.
oh, DS > PSP.

as soon as animal crossing DS and the new Pokemon come out the DS will be just as popular as a gameboy.

BigTrav415
08-22-2005, 08:17 PM
umm... I would definitely say that the DS IS as popular as a Game Boy... especially considering that's what it is (I don't CARE what you say Nintendo, the DS is a beefed-up Game Boy and you know it!) And I'm sure that almost everyone that wanted to buy a DS in the first place has, very few people are holding out for one particular game. And no PSP fan actually wants that new 50 Cent game, that's another generalization DS fanboys have; not every PSP owner is a mainstream idiot trend follower. But everyone knows that every DS owner is an 8-year old with ADD with a high voice and a soccer mom.

/obvious sarcasm that most probably won't realize and flame me

nkl420
08-22-2005, 08:41 PM
psp has a doomsday chip in it it will break in about two years

BigTrav415
08-22-2005, 09:43 PM
hey n00b, no offense, but if you want to be accepted here, you're gonna need to say something that doesn't sound like it came from an 8-year old with ADD. Although that might be hard for you...

StaticSynth
08-23-2005, 12:37 PM
Finally someone who has a real argument for the DS... I agree with you on the fact that there is a lot of OG software coming out for the DS, but it remains to be seen how much is actually any good. PSP has been somewhat consistent at least with it's releases (all but a very few were good, solid games), while DS has been.... below-average in that department. And DS hasn't had aything come out for it in a long while... my friens who own a DS were telling me that they pushed all their summer releases into the fall for some reason, and it wasn't for debugging or polishing, they just sort of quietly did it. I have all hopes that the DS and PSP both do well though, don't get me wrong. But I really woudn't call all the new PSP games "watered-down PS2 ports or PS2-engine driven games". The DS is just a slightly upgraded Game Boy with a touch screen hardware-wise (I don't care what you say Nintendo, it IS a Game Boy), while the PSP had better hardware and capabilities than any other product, gaming system or not, it's size. I think even the most die-hard DS fan has to ask themselves; Why the hell did Nintendo use these TINY LITTLE F*CKING CARRTRIDGES!!! My little ister has lost a whole bunch of her DS games becasue they are so small... sorry, I'm getting off track. I guess what I'm rying to say is, both systems have a good software line-up coming up, and hopefully they'll both do well :thumb:
/secretly wants Nintendogs and Animal Crossing DS reeeeeeaaaaalll bad.


The thing about handhelds is, they've always provided an experience different from what was on consoles. The GBA gave us 2D gaming that has been practically non-existant on consoles. The DS, with it's unique features, is giving us gameplay that has never been seen on any console. The PSP, however, is simply a handheld PS2 when it comes to style of games. The handheld market has traditionally been a market for developers to cheaply make games and see quick profit. This isn't true for the PSP because original PSP games cost almost as much to develop as PS2 games. Because of this, developers are questioning wether the should bother developing many PSP games, when they can make the games for consoles which already have a large established user-base.

Also, the DS isn't just a slightly upgraded GBA. It's as powerful as an N64. Has two screens, one being a touch-screen which vastly changes the gameplay. A mic that can be used for commands. Built in wi-fi for multiplayer. And it can play both DS and GBA games (backwards compatible).

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 12:59 PM
The thing about handhelds is, they've always provided an experience different from what was on consoles. The GBA gave us 2D gaming that has been practically non-existant on consoles. The DS, with it's unique features, is giving us gameplay that has never been seen on any console. The PSP, however, is simply a handheld PS2 when it comes to style of games. The handheld market has traditionally been a market for developers to cheaply make games and see quick profit. This isn't true for the PSP because original PSP games cost almost as much to develop as PS2 games. Because of this, developers are questioning wether the should bother developing many PSP games, when they can make the games for consoles which already have a large established user-base.

Also, the DS isn't just a slightly upgraded GBA. It's as powerful as an N64. Has two screens, one being a touch-screen which vastly changes the gameplay. A mic that can be used for commands. Built in wi-fi for multiplayer. And it can play both DS and GBA games (backwards compatible).

The thing you say about the handheld market is true. Many companies do make cheap games and sell them for quick profits. Of course the problem with this is often obvious; there are tons of crap games and quick cash-ins for handheld systems. If you look at most of the games for the GBA, they are crap liscensed products or badly made games in general. Of course there are some great ones; Advance Wars, the remakes of the SNES Marios, Final Fantsay Tactics Advance, Fire Emblem, etc. etc. (mostly made by Nintendo of course) but many are poorly made cash-grabbers.

With the PSP, developers have the chance to make a quality product using the power of the PSP that could never be made before for the handheld market. One thing you may have noticed is that a lot of the launch titles for the PSP were racers. This is because developers are going wild with the PSP's engine and graphical range to make truly awesome racing games that could never be imagined before for the hand-held market. Look at Ridge Racer and Need for Speed Underground 2: Rivals. In the future some great looking FPS and TPS shooters (Infected, GTA: Liberty City Stories, etc.) are on the line-up, and some of the most engine-pushing games out now. Perhaps you've seen Mercury. It's not necessarily a mega-hit game, but it really uses and shows off the physics engine and graphical capabilities of the PSP, stuff that could never be done before on a handheld.

Another interesting effect of the high-dev costs of making games for the PSP is that developers are less likely to pour money into a crap game and hope it sells well, unlike for the GBA and other systems. So we usually end up with less games, but better quality ones. I'm not saying the DS has no good games, but they are somewhat few and far-between, at least right now. Things will settle out for both systems within the next year or two, as developers get the feel of the dev-kits given to them by Sony, and really begin to unlock the potential of both systems. It's gonna be great :thumb:

Kurrpt
08-23-2005, 01:02 PM
its all about the games, fuk the system

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 01:05 PM
Ummmm.... the games are played ON the sytem so.... you kinda need the system.... and the system determines WHAT games are on it so.... you make a strange point to say the least....

Kurrpt
08-23-2005, 01:06 PM
Ummmm.... the games are played ON the sytem so.... you kinda need the system.... and the system determines WHAT games are on it so.... you make a strange point to say the least....


well, what is the major determining factor for buying a particular system? 9 times out of 10, its the exclusive games for that particular system. Lets say you really like mario games, obviously you know what you would buy, considering

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 01:08 PM
Yeah but the system is still obviously important, saying it's all about the games, fuk the system is kind of short-sighted.

Kurrpt
08-23-2005, 01:12 PM
Yeah but the system is still obviously important, saying it's all about the games, fuk the system is kind of short-sighted.


im saying these "features" you are talking about obviously take less priority

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 01:14 PM
Actually I never put "features" into any of my arguments on here, unless you are talking about the engine and that sort of thing. I never discussed stuff like movie capabilities or whatever. I only talked about the games and the systems themselves.

Kurrpt
08-23-2005, 01:16 PM
im not saying YOU as you specifically

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 01:19 PM
okay whatever, we cool man :smoke:

Kurrpt
08-23-2005, 01:21 PM
haha alright.

my bro has both, and i have a psp.

My point is, i WOULD buy a DS, but metroid isnt out yet, and im waiting for another MUST HAVE title before i could warrant buying the system

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 01:26 PM
Yeah, like I said earlier; If a DS fell out of heaven and smashed me on the head right about 10 seconds from now, I'd buy

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Super Mario 64 DS
Nintendogs
and Animal Crossing DS when it comes out. Nothing else especially tickles my fancy.

And personally I don't think FPSs wil be DS' strongpoint. Although if the Big N manages to make a great Metroid for the DS, well cheers to them :thumb:


......................:smoke:

Kurrpt
08-23-2005, 01:30 PM
well my bro has mario

i dont think advanced wars in out, though im not the biggest fan (he has the first 2 for GBA)

i loved the metroid demo
i actually like animal crossing as well

Jonny
08-23-2005, 07:38 PM
The thing you say about the handheld market is true. Many companies do make cheap games and sell them for quick profits. Of course the problem with this is often obvious; there are tons of crap games and quick cash-ins for handheld systems. If you look at most of the games for the GBA, they are crap liscensed products or badly made games in general. Of course there are some great ones; Advance Wars, the remakes of the SNES Marios, Final Fantsay Tactics Advance, Fire Emblem, etc. etc. (mostly made by Nintendo of course) but many are poorly made cash-grabbers.

With the PSP, developers have the chance to make a quality product using the power of the PSP that could never be made before for the handheld market. One thing you may have noticed is that a lot of the launch titles for the PSP were racers. This is because developers are going wild with the PSP's engine and graphical range to make truly awesome racing games that could never be imagined before for the hand-held market. Look at Ridge Racer and Need for Speed Underground 2: Rivals. In the future some great looking FPS and TPS shooters (Infected, GTA: Liberty City Stories, etc.) are on the line-up, and some of the most engine-pushing games out now. Perhaps you've seen Mercury. It's not necessarily a mega-hit game, but it really uses and shows off the physics engine and graphical capabilities of the PSP, stuff that could never be done before on a handheld.

Another interesting effect of the high-dev costs of making games for the PSP is that developers are less likely to pour money into a crap game and hope it sells well, unlike for the GBA and other systems. So we usually end up with less games, but better quality ones. I'm not saying the DS has no good games, but they are somewhat few and far-between, at least right now. Things will settle out for both systems within the next year or two, as developers get the feel of the dev-kits given to them by Sony, and really begin to unlock the potential of both systems. It's gonna be great :thumb:
Interesting that you would use that argument. That's what a lot of people say that about the PS2 and the Cube (PS2 has loads of games- mostly crap, but the Cube has fewer games but mostly quality ones) so it's kinda a role reversal. Course, we all know people prefer the one with the most games ;)

BigTrav415
08-23-2005, 09:44 PM
Interesting that you would use that argument. That's what a lot of people say that about the PS2 and the Cube (PS2 has loads of games- mostly crap, but the Cube has fewer games but mostly quality ones) so it's kinda a role reversal. Course, we all know people prefer the one with the most games ;)
...yeah ok... it's actually mostly a timing issue as well (which one came out first) and I would say the the PS2 has at least as many quality titles out as the Cube, if not more. Many more. That's mostly because it's been out longer, but.. you get my drift...

infinate_ammo
08-24-2005, 07:17 AM
So we all agree? The age of DS has begun?

BigTrav415
08-24-2005, 11:10 AM
If you'd read the thread you idiot you'd realize that we've been debating over it, not all singing "yeah DS rulz arse dood!!1" and talking about how cool infinate_ammo is in your absense. Quite the opposite actually.

Mr. Ron
08-24-2005, 11:17 AM
I have tested a DS for a week, I think they are awkward to handle and play.

StaticSynth
08-24-2005, 06:54 PM
I'm very curious to see which handheld will sell the most this holiday season. Dropping the DS' price to $130 was a very smart move by Nintendo, imo. Especially considering, they're going to have to compete with GTA: LCS.

Amorpha
08-24-2005, 07:06 PM
Lost In Blue is the one game that has finally convinced me that I need a DS. And I've played New Super Mario Bros.

infinate_ammo
08-24-2005, 07:27 PM
I heard a rumor that Liberty City Stories is rated G

AA-12
08-24-2005, 07:29 PM
whyd u do 2.0?


web browser?
Basically.

BigTrav415
08-24-2005, 08:27 PM
I heard a rumor that Liberty City Stories is rated G
:smash: Just go crawl off somewhere and die already, m'kay? No one cares about your PSP-flamefests, we only think less of you... if that's possible...

infinate_ammo
08-24-2005, 08:46 PM
:smash: Just go crawl off somewhere and die already, m'kay? No one cares about your PSP-flamefests, we only think less of you... if that's possible...
I was actually being serious, it was just a rumor but who knows.

BigTrav415
08-24-2005, 08:47 PM
A game can't be rated G, you're so full of Nintendo-branded crap it's actually driven you senile apparantly.

infinate_ammo
08-24-2005, 08:50 PM
I'm not a Nintendo fanboy

BigTrav415
08-24-2005, 08:53 PM
A game can't be rated G, you're so full of DS-branded crap it's actually driven you senile apparantly.
Fix'd. Unles you can prove otherwise in our other thread.