Rhcp - Funk?

[KRASH]

This is something I have always wanted to know, i love the red hot chili peppers but i don't know what genre they fall under, people say Funk, thus the reason im posting here others say Alt/Inde some Rock, Modern Rock Pop Punk.How do they fall under and what do they fall under?

[PinkFreud]

theyre a rock band. possibly an alternative band. alternative is such a cop-out blanket genre though. its a catch all. theyre definitely not funk. they have funk elements. its different.

[XxI Stealth IxX]

Well Flea brings more than an ELEMENT of funk into the band! If asked i would call them a Funk band, they are total old school also, i have been listining to them for sooo long now

[Caleb3221]

One member can't define the genre of a band. I am a huge funk lover, my tastes ranging from the classic old school stuff, even back to motown, all the way up to some of the modern hip hop, fusion, groove bands, etc. And, from everything I've heard of the Chili Peppers, they are not funk. Yes, they have some funky elements and a few funky songs, but they are still definatley a rock band.

[MaxLeighton]

They don't fall under one specific genre because so many of their songs sound completely different. The album Freaky Styley, produced by George Clinton, is definately funk, but the abum By the Way is pop/rock. It's pretty much impossible to say that they are strictly a funk band or strictly a rock band.

[Jump]

Red Hot Chili Peppers are just Red Hot Chili Peppers, a new genre :P No, I think it's rock with a little bit of Funk (Flea) but that doesn't mean it IS funk.

[MaxLeighton]

Red Hot Chili Peppers are just Red Hot Chili Peppers, a new genre :P No, I think it's rock with a little bit of Funk (Flea) but that doesn't mean it IS funk.


Flea isn't the only person in the band who plays funk. "Funky Monks" is a good example; John Frusciante and Chad Smith are playing more funky than Flea.

[XxI Stealth IxX]

They don't fall under one specific genre because so many of their songs sound completely different. The album Freaky Styley, produced by George Clinton, is definately funk, but the abum By the Way is pop/rock. It's pretty much impossible to say that they are strictly a funk band or strictly a rock band.

true

Flea isn't the only person in the band who plays funk. "Funky Monks" is a good example; John Frusciante and Chad Smith are playing more funky than Flea.

but flea just has that total flow goin on it gives me a total funk vibb

his is more kind of standing out over the other guyus you know?

[RedMorningLight]

They are a Rock Band, Full Stop. A brilliant one at that.

[C. OSullivan]

Funk


Rock.

[Oddsen]

I agree with stealth

[CombatWombat3]

They pretty much play whatever the **** they feel like playing.

[Shaft!]

They are many genres molded into one. You say RHCP are funk, others will say they're alt. rock. Some will say funk rock. Some will go as far as funk metal. Others will classify them as pop.
They are influenced by jazz and funk. Influence only, they are not funk in itself. They are the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and if you were to throw them into one major genre, it would most definately be rock.
Yes, they have the funky tracks, and they have the rock tracks, and they have the pop tracks and whatnot...but let's think about all the other bands that would be labelled "funk" by the style used by the bassist, as you've mentioned, Flea:
-Audioslave
-Primus
-Korn, so help me God
-Rage Against the Machine
-Les Claypool's Frog Brigade
I wouldn't list a single one of them as pure funk, just as I wouldn't dare to throw the Chilis into that genre.
I'll stick with rock.

[KRASH]

thanks guys...i should check out this forum more

[fetusman]

they are funky but not like what we think of as funk like parliament. funky rock

[DemBonez]

omg Bob Marley has funky bass lines in his songs, so I'd say he should be classified as funk.


Better yet, listen to the music as a collective whole. RHCP isn't funk, plain and simple.

[C. OSullivan]

^Not in recent years, that's for sure... but Freakey Styley was most definitely a funk album. Maybe the only one that they ever issued.

[feedyourhead]

^Not in recent years, that's for sure... but Freakey Styley was most definitely a funk album. Maybe the only one that they ever issued.


YES! Finally someone speaks truth. None of this "funk Element" bull*h*t. George Clinton Produced that album and squeezed every funky sound out and jammed it up your eardrums like bananas.

[tearyan]

YES! Finally someone speaks truth. None of this "funk Element" bull*h*t. George Clinton Produced that album and squeezed every funky sound out and jammed it up your eardrums like bananas.

definitely made that funk the p-funk...well at least made it funk

[MaxLeighton]

Either way, it's a good thing no one can agree one what genre they are. If they wanted to play funk like Parliament they could, and if they wanted to play rock like Led Zeppelin they could do that too.

[alan_pfeifer]

Funk


Rock.

agreed. chad smith is a crimminally underated drummer in my opinion. They really didn't get interesting for me until he joined the band.

[fr0zt]

I agree, they add funk, metal, and jazz influences to their sound. Their Hillel Slovak albums were more pure funk than anything though. Lately they have been pop-punk. I will keep waiting until they release another Mother's Milk :D

[C. OSullivan]

I agree, they add funk, metal, and jazz influences to their sound. Their Hillel Slovak albums were more pure funk than anything though. Lately they have been pop-punk. I will keep waiting until they release another Mother's Milk :D

I think that if you'd listen to/learn jazz, you'd see that the Chili Peppers are hardly jazz inspired... true, Flea is and John is too a jazz fan (evident in interviews from the Bllod Sugar and recent era), but that doesn't really rub off into their playing at all. Also, metal? That's a huge stretch. The only song that comes close to metal is "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" off of Blood Sugar.
I don't know, I just have to disagree.

Also, I'd see pop punk bands as being things like Fallout Boy or Simple Plan... Warped Tour type bands. You can't play "Around the World"... "Can't Stop"... "By the Way"... these songs are atypical in and of themselves, let alone confiend to such a weak (weak in my opinion) genre as pop-punk. RHCP isn't a very complicated band when it comes to their music, but they're definitely out of the leagues of Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, and into more introspective music... particularly John and Flea. Just listen to John's solo work, his experimental touch...

I'm not saying that one genre is above another but the Chili Peppers are jus tnonclssifiable with pop punk bands.


I highly disagree with a few things said. First off, Uplift Mofo was more based on classic rock and bands such as AC/DC and Kiss than anything funky. The self titled debut, well that only had a few hillel tracks.

[TheMule]

The self titled debut, well that only had a few hillel tracks.


Actually the whole album was written by Hillel, Anthony, Flea, and Jack Irons. It was after all the songs were finished that Hillel and Jack quit the band. Jack Sherman and Cliff Martinez joined but, they only recorded the songs the others had already written.

[C. OSullivan]

^Well, he recorded only 4 of the 11 original tracks.. something tells me that Jack Sherman played a significant role in the guitar work on that album, the songs and the playing.

[Kayetan]

Actually the whole album was written by Hillel, Anthony, Flea, and Jack Irons. It was after all the songs were finished that Hillel and Jack quit the band. Jack Sherman and Cliff Martinez joined but, they only recorded the songs the others had already written.
That's wrong, my friend. Jack Sherman and Cliff Martinez wrote Mommy Where's Daddy with the peppers. I think they wrote a few other too. Just look at the album credits.

[BassRevelation1029]

no. Just have a little funk influences, but i wouldnt call them funk/funk metal or whatever.

[fatpunk]

punk and funk

http://www.fenderplayersclub.com/woodshed/video_lessons/video_lessons.htm
check the Flea one ^ amazing

[OneEyedMan]

*sigh*

you all have it WRONG!!!!

No way do the chili's come any where near anything even to do with punk.

Nor are they majorly rock

Or funk.

The chili's combine brillant musician ship, some of might not be hard but hey i'd like to see you come up with some stuff like theirs, with truly soul barring vocals and work together in complete harmony not found in practically any other band around.

The closest genre they can be put into would be alternative because thats really a artist specific genre with contriction placed what so ever.

The fact that no song on their albums sound like fillers at all tells us this, you listen to every track and don't skip any.

There mix of acoustic, lightly distorted and clean guitar working with the ever changing bass lines from flea with the amazing drummer chad. Then to top the cake put REAL song lyrics on top from anothny.This band shall be one of the ones remembered in the future unlike those crappy punk pop bands that sound crap, are crap and are riding a fad.

The only word's you can use to describe the chili's would be Diverse, Honest and Vibrant.

The best band around today full stop, that most successful band around lately and they have one of the biggest fan bases in the world.

Don't put genre's on bands because they don't want the labels, rhcp don't have a genre and something like Faith No More doesn't even have one, you know why because they are origional and the best. No one else can copy them.

Long live the Chili's

[fatpunk]

if you actually see that vid I gave you [up there] flea actually said that he mix punk and funk, it just their style
and do you know that flea actually in a punk band called "FEAR"

[MaxLeighton]

That's wrong, my friend. Jack Sherman and Cliff Martinez wrote Mommy Where's Daddy with the peppers. I think they wrote a few other too. Just look at the album credits.


Mommy Where's Daddy may be true but, in the book Scar Tissue, Anthony mentions nothing about them contributing creatively to the album at all. He actually does point out that they hired someone besides Jack Shermon but fired him because he couldn't learn the songs. I'm pretty positive that if they did write anything it wasn't more than one or two songs.

[Oddsen]

Did sherman play in freaky stylely, i know jack irons didn't.

[sweet_love_of_mine]

styles:

flea= punk rock and funk
hillel slovak = classic rock and funk
john f = funk rock punk elcectronic (eg. devo)
chad smith = rock

[C. OSullivan]

Did sherman play in freaky stylely, i know jack irons didn't.

Just to clear future posts up...

Self-titled: A.K., Flea, Jack Sherman, Cliff Martinez
Freakey Styley: A.K., Flea, Hillel Slovak, Cliff Martinez
Uplift Mofo Party Plan: A.K., Flea, Hillel Slovak, Jack Irons (original line up)
Mother's Milk: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
BLOODSUGARSEXMAGIK: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
One Hot Minute: A.K., Flea, Dave Navarro, Chad Smith
Californication: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
By the Way: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
Silencio: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith

Also, D.H. Peligro wrote at least one Uplift drum part. And Hillel contributed four to the debut. But Hillel was on all of Freakey Styley.

[sweet_love_of_mine]

Silencio is that there new album or some thing?

[Iskandar]

They aren't funk any more than Tool is Indian raga.

[C. OSullivan]

Silencio is that there new album or some thing?

It is indeed. Check their site if you'd like to.

[6ripper]

Tower of Power is funk, alright!!!
P.S Some people here need a clue.

[Firecracker]

Their older stuff was definately funk, as Flea's prefered genre was jazz bass, and they generally swung that way.
Now it's kind of alternative style.

[franz sanchez]

None of their stuff WAS EVER FUNK.

Now this has been established can one of the mods please lock this thread?

[MaxLeighton]

None of their stuff WAS EVER FUNK.

Now this has been established can one of the mods please lock this thread?


Do you know what funk sounds like? I guess not, bro. Freaky Styley is a funk album, everyone agrees. Maybe you've never heard it. I suggest you go listen to it before you say they never played funk.

[mutant!]

I suggest all of you go listen to some Commodores and Earth, Wind & Fire before you even use the word 'funk'. I agree with most everyone here, though - they used to be funk rock (I suppose you could call it 'pfunk' if you want, with a silent p :P), but in later times their music has evolved into pop rock with funk no longer integral, but still an influence. Then again, haven't heard Silencio.

[Zion Gates]

i wouldnt say RHCP are completely funk (excluding freaky styley) they definatly have funk influences.

[mutant!]

The same thing applies to me - I'd love to play funk or Spanish or cool jazz or metal but all those genres just mix and come through at different levels at different times when I play. So I just call myself fusion metal and hope it intimidates people enough that they don't ask questions. :)

[franz sanchez]

Do you know what funk sounds like? I guess not, bro. Freaky Styley is a funk album, everyone agrees. Maybe you've never heard it. I suggest you go listen to it before you say they never played funk.

I would say that YOU have never heard any real funk. If you really believe that RHCP were at one time a band that played funk, then that's your opinion. Maybe you'd best stay down the end of the garden with the fairies you're probably convinced exist.

Meanwhile, have a look at my band's website, listen to some soundclips and then judge whether I know anything about funk or not.

www.speedometer-funk.co.uk

Let's keep this debate open, I'm starting to enjoy this. I can feel another elconguero vs. cameron baloney war coming.....

[zombie autopilot]

Yeah funk influences, but not funk all together.

[Tarquin1986]

1.Okay, to the idiot who described recent chilis as pop punk :lol: : find me a single song on by the way that features fast distorted power chords.

2. The reason the chilis are funk and korn aren't despite both having funky bass is the chords john plays.

3. While they don't have a jazzy swing sound they are still kinda jazz because of their improvisational spirit.

4. Finally, F-Styley was funk, no question. Now they're more experimental pop.

[sketchyjoe]

They have funk influences but are not funk in the same way that the Talking Heads and Gang of Four are not funk.

[Caleb3221]

Ok, I will give that some of their older stuff was fairly funky, some people may call it funk. But, i've heard a fair bit of their recent stuff, and it is definatley not funk. Saying they are a funk band now is like saying that James Brown is a traditional gospel or motown singer because that's what he did in his early days. Bands and musicians CHANGE. Sure, his current funk style is influenced by motown, gospel, etc(He basicly created funk out of those), but he isn't a motown musician right now. Same with Chili Peppers and funk, sure they may have done it earlier, and they may have influences from what they did, but if anyone with a funk ear listens to what they are doing now, it is not funk.

[C. OSullivan]

^Dude, how many people here said that they're still funk today? Almost no one... if not no one... sorry, you're just speaking as though everyone in this thread hasn't realized that.

[MaxLeighton]

I would say that YOU have never heard any real funk. If you really believe that RHCP were at one time a band that played funk, then that's your opinion. Maybe you'd best stay down the end of the garden with the fairies you're probably convinced exist.

Meanwhile, have a look at my band's website, listen to some soundclips and then judge whether I know anything about funk or not.

www.speedometer-funk.co.uk

Let's keep this debate open, I'm starting to enjoy this. I can feel another elconguero vs. cameron baloney war coming.....


I don't feel like listening to your band but, I'll assume you're a funk expert. But, you're certainly not an expert on RHCP is you say that they were never funk. Freaky Styley is their only album I would say is a funk album. It was produced by George Clinton so, it's not hard to beleive that it was funk. Listen to the album and tell me that I'm wrong.

[freakmeeko]

They went through funk phases, I've heard a little grunge, I have also heard some steps into experimental/prog.

[PinkFreud]

1.Okay, to the idiot who described recent chilis as pop punk :lol: : find me a single song on by the way that features fast distorted power chords.

2. The reason the chilis are funk and korn aren't despite both having funky bass is the chords john plays.

3. While they don't have a jazzy swing sound they are still kinda jazz because of their improvisational spirit.

4. Finally, F-Styley was funk, no question. Now they're more experimental pop.
1. you DO know that thats not a defininf feature of punk, right?

2. how so? would you ever classify faith no more as funk? because theyre in the same boat.

3. just because they rely on improv (which i dont see in them very much) doesnt mean theyre jazz. blues relies a lot on improv. so do jam bands. theyre not jazzy.

4. there are clearly questions. otherwise, there wouldnt be this debate.

[KRASH]

I agree, they add funk, metal, and jazz influences to their sound. Their Hillel Slovak albums were more pure funk than anything though. Lately they have been pop-punk. I will keep waiting until they release another Mother's Milk :D


they arent pop...i wouldnt calss it anyway.....and john said that he hates mothers milk and BSSM now because he couldnt stand playing with the band at the time.

[JimmyVanHendrixPeppers]

It is indeed. Check their site if you'd like to.
I dont see anything on there?

[roee_co]

they arent pop...i wouldnt calss it anyway.....and john said that he hates mothers milk and BSSM now because he couldnt stand playing with the band at the time.
not true
john only hates mothers milk because of the producer who told to play in a specific style that he didn't like. John loved playing with the band, only in the tour of BSSM he hated being too famous and he had drugs problems.

[AmericanWeiner]

Meanwhile, have a look at my band's website, listen to some soundclips and then judge whether I know anything about funk or not.

www.speedometer-funk.co.uk


:thumb: What do you play?

[C. OSullivan]

they arent pop...i wouldnt calss it anyway.....and john said that he hates mothers milk and BSSM now because he couldnt stand playing with the band at the time.

Between 1988 (when he joined) and 1992 (when he left), John said that he was happy and couldnt have been happier.

He didnt like his playing on Mother's Milk in RETROSPECT because the producer had him do layered guitar work that he wasn't fond of.

He today is still proud of his playing on BSSM and cites the recording sessions for that album as one of if not the happiest time of his life.

It was when John was touring and not able to be with his girlfriend all the time, when he was getting paranoid from weed, when he was having problems with Anthony, that John left.

[franz sanchez]

I don't need to be an expert of any kind to say that RHCP don't play funk - most of the users of this forum will say that for me.

For some reason, staunch defenders of RHCP get really upset over the fact that the majority of funk collectors/DJs/musicians all agree that RHCP have never played any funk. Do you all REALLY believe that they were once a funk band (they NEVER were) or are you all upset that someone has said that there is something that they (RHCP) are not?

What next - RHCP were once a hip-hop band? Invented dancehall? did a bit of electronica on the side? Was the inspiration for Debussy and Strauss?

I'll stand by it - RHCP are not a funk band, have NEVER played any funk (no matter what some coked up LSD-head past it Doo-wop singer produced), and never will play any funk. If you don't agree, listen to some REAL funk, and play it side by side against RHCP - there are no similarities.


Re- AmericanWeiner: In Speedometer, I play percussion. Laugh all you like, MaxLeighton et al, but I'm the one doing the tour of Japan's Blue Note clubs next month, not you. :-P

[roee_co]

I don't need to be an expert of any kind to say that RHCP don't play funk - most of the users of this forum will say that for me.

For some reason, staunch defenders of RHCP get really upset over the fact that the majority of funk collectors/DJs/musicians all agree that RHCP have never played any funk. Do you all REALLY believe that they were once a funk band (they NEVER were) or are you all upset that someone has said that there is something that they (RHCP) are not?

What next - RHCP were once a hip-hop band? Invented dancehall? did a bit of electronica on the side? Was the inspiration for Debussy and Strauss?

I'll stand by it - RHCP are not a funk band, have NEVER played any funk (no matter what some coked up LSD-head past it Doo-wop singer produced), and never will play any funk. If you don't agree, listen to some REAL funk, and play it side by side against RHCP - there are no similarities.


Re- AmericanWeiner: In Speedometer, I play percussion. Laugh all you like, MaxLeighton et al, but I'm the one doing the tour of Japan's Blue Note clubs next month, not you. :-P

You have obviously have no idea what you are talking about. First of all the band has played many cover of funkadelic and the meters and other funk and only that shows that they are playing funk. Also, Freaky Styley was produced by the funk master himself George Clinton who always said how funky the peppers are. and you go on and listen to the newer cds and they all got some funk in them, and this is coming for a straight funk guy. RHCP are funky. you are reminding me of these 90 year old guys who when they hear jazz now they say its all wrong cause its not played like in the 20s. Well, music has to advance and has to change, if music stayed the same everything would be boring. so just because the Peppers don't play in the same funk style as funkadelic doesn't mean they're not funky. I think the Peppers have a great style of funk rock and they've been influencing many other musicians

[OneEyedMan]

how about the rhcp's can't be moled into your genre's because they play their own msuic which is unlike anything else out there which in theory so should every good band. Remember bands get remembered for being different and origional. Most of the musi nowdays is not going to be remembered, stuff like simple plan etc are definately not going to be remembered. Stuff like Faith No More, rhcp and RATM, that is real music that is going to be remembered.
Rhcp's belong in their own genre which of course contains certain influences from these conceived genres, but make their own spin on things and produce amazing music that surpasses many other artists nowdays in musicianship ten fold.

John still likes bssm but he doesn't like the way he acted back then with the relying on drugs but he like the album, the playing of under the bridge at slane is a tribute to this, him sitting on the egde of the stage playing all along until the rest of the band comes along, brilliant.

[Caleb3221]

To the guy above the guy above me, you call them funk rock. Even in their old stuff, it was much more rock than funk, and I know that listening to the newer stuff I've heard, there is no funk in it at all. And, saying that because they cover funk, they are funk is also inane. For example, listen to their cover of Love Roller Coaster by the Ohio Players. That is a classic funk song. The cover is a great example of how NOT to play funk. I can't stand it. It lacks the groove and feel of the original and, in my opinion, sounds terrible, but that's not really relevant. And, you are dead wrong in thinking I think that funk should have stayed the same. I am a huge fan of the modern funk groups that have moved very far. They have just stayed funky.

An interesting point that I have been thinking too has been brought up. The ONLY people who I ever see saying RHCP are funk are fans. I have never seen anyone who dosen't like them say they are funk. Now, I can identify the genres of much music that I don't like and put it into the same category that the fans do. I freely admit that there is much funk that I don't like. But RHCP is not funk. Especially not now.

[franz sanchez]

Just for the record - I think that RHCP are a great band - a great rock band that is. Seen them live a couple of times and enjoyed every minute of it.

As for the comment about not wanting funk to advance? Tosh!! - Poets of Rhythm, Quantic Soul Orchestra, David Holmes - all pushing funk sounds further than the average RHCP diehard fan could comprehend and coming out with some great records. But this isn't that new either - take Hank Shocklee's Son of Bazerk project from around 15 years ago. Marvellous stuff.

[Parradiddle Pete]

'A type of popular music combining elements of jazz, blues, and soul and characterized by syncopated rhythm and a heavy, repetitive bass line.'
Chili Peppers = FUNK ROCK

[Oddsen]

They are a rock band with funk influences which I say wakes them at some point half funk half rock, probly freaky style. Than on Californiacation and by the way they pretty much dropped the funk except for a few tracks. So as Pete says they are FUNK ROCK.

[Shawn Lane]

I'd say that RHCP are more like Funk/Rock, mainly cause of Flea's Slap Bass and Funky Riffs.

I don't like them, but my band's Bassist and Drummer are obsessed w/ them, so I kinda have to do covers.

[JohnXDoe]

The RHCP are funky as hell. Period. Some of funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. Just ask George Clinton. He'll tell 'ya.

[mutant!]

http://images.mweb.co.za/cms/22860/bob_city.mp3

No, Bed On Bricks are the funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. But you wouldn't know because they're South African. Oh well.

More to the point: I recently said this in another thread, but people need to stop saying 'funk' and 'blues' when they mean 'funk rock' and 'blues rock'. There's a difference, people.

[JohnXDoe]

http://images.mweb.co.za/cms/22860/bob_city.mp3

No, Bed On Bricks are the funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. But you wouldn't know because they're South African. Oh well.

More to the point: I recently said this in another thread, but people need to stop saying 'funk' and 'blues' when they mean 'funk rock' and 'blues rock'. There's a difference, people.

What is the difference? Why do we need to split hairs like that? If something is primarily funky, it's funk. I don't care of it has elements of rock in it. I can pick out plenty of RHCP songs that are straight up funk. Just like Bootsy Collins and the boys used to play. It's all good, people. Just let it groove :).

[mutant!]

I don't know, man. There's a vast difference between 'Funky Monks' and Horace Silver's tunes.

But yeah, who cares?! I'm anti-labeling anyway. I'll just stop posting now, and just let it groove. \m/ :) \m/

[franz sanchez]

No, Bed On Bricks are the funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. But you wouldn't know because they're South African. Oh well.

Sorry mate, but that just is NOT funk either. It's pop/hip-hop if there was such a genre. In fact if anything it's like some of those awful Scandinavian 'we play acid-jazz' clones that we all thought we'd seen the last of in 1995. It goes back to the old argument, just because something is funky, it isn't necessarily FUNK.

You guys really do need to look out for bands like:

New Mastersounds http://www.newmastersounds.com/index.htm

The Dap-Kings http://www.daptonerecords.com/audio/dap1001-B.mp3

Mighty Imperials http://www.daptonerecords.com/audio/imp01.mp3

Reverend Cleatus http://www.reverend-cleatus.com/tracks/6%20Salt%20Popcorn.mp3

Boogaloo Investigators http://www.boogalooinvestigators.co.uk/03thesedays.m3u


Pick up the CD "Hot Funky and Sweaty" on the Acid Jazz label to hear more 'proper' funk recorded over the last couple of years.

[Big J]

I'm a huge fan of the peps

I would put them in Alternative Funk, simply because some of their stuff is funk and some is alternative. Their older stuff is much funkier than their newer stuff, eg. Subterranian Homesick Blues and Funky Monks are hugely funky songs, along with I Like Dirt.

[jake plays guitar]

no chilli peppers=rock

[C. OSullivan]

Subterranian Homesick Blues and Funky Monks are hugely funky songs, along with I Like Dirt.

You picked the most damaging examples to the arguement that the Chili Peppers did at one time play funk. Especially I Like Dirt.

And as stated, "funky" doesn't constitute "funk."

[beaker_747]

Funky secks.

[HumanHiFi]

why aren't the RHCP threads banned yet? Even though the "OMGOMGOMGOMGRHCP, FUNK????!!!" threads are probably a main source of posters in this forum, its still annoying. it's similar to the "whats a good first [insert instrument]" thread for musicians, boring, samey and obvious. variety, please!

[Orange Fog]

RHCP are mostly rock, with SOME remotely funky songs.

[wardy]

Chili Peppers are filled with funk influence and punk as well. They are a blend and have their own sound which took them ages to define. I would say they are alternative not a funk band even tho there are elements of funk in the their music

[Chameleon]

They iz the met0l

[Joe]

They iz the met0l

umm...

They've got a lot of rock and funk influence. Most of their old stuff I'd consider a fusion of rock and funk, but now most of their stuff is rock.

[Chameleon]

umm...

They've got a lot of rock and funk influence. Most of their old stuff I'd consider a fusion of rock and funk, but now most of their stuff is rock.

Ahem...

They iz the met0l

/argument

[mutant!]

Wait, I'm gonna see what gizoogle has to say about this.

Red Hot Chili Peppers are an amazing band of dynamic artists who should continue to write songs until the day they die.

[mutant!]

Gizoogle says:

Red Hot Chili Shot Calla is an amaz'n band of dynamic artists who should continue ta write songs until tha day they die. Its just anotha homocide.

[soulnomad]

This is something I have always wanted to know, i love the red hot chili peppers but i don't know what genre they fall under, people say Funk, thus the reason im posting here others say Alt/Inde some Rock, Modern Rock Pop Punk.How do they fall under and what do they fall under?
They are just good musicians who cut their teeth on funk by the master of funk,George Clinton.
I'd say they are a rock band with elements of funk just due to their approach being more guitar and volume driven.Funk is more bass and drum driven with a deep pocket and that really isnt the case with The RHCP's.

[NEDM]

I sort of agree but I think the band is funk rock and it won't change. But we'll have to see what their next cd looks like.

[robfly]

:thumb: This is something I have always wanted to know, i love the red hot chili peppers but i don't know what genre they fall under, people say Funk, thus the reason im posting here others say Alt/Inde some Rock, Modern Rock Pop Punk.How do they fall under and what do they fall under?

The peppers used to be funk, check out their first couple of albums. You should also check out BLOW FLY flea worked with him in the early 90's along with fishbone. He's one of the first rappers ever and has influenced so many different artists

[robfly]

I don't feel like listening to your band but, I'll assume you're a funk expert. But, you're certainly not an expert on RHCP is you say that they were never funk. Freaky Styley is their only album I would say is a funk album. It was produced by George Clinton so, it's not hard to beleive that it was funk. Listen to the album and tell me that I'm wrong.

That was a pretty shameless plug but I'm gonna make another one. check out BLOW FLY if you haven't heard of him already, very funky and he's been around since the seventies and still touring and making albums.
www.myspace.com\blowfly

[PinkFreud]

:thumb:

The peppers used to be funk, check out their first couple of albums. You should also check out BLOW FLY flea worked with him in the early 90's along with fishbone. He's one of the first rappers ever and has influenced so many different artists
if he was around in the early 90's then he was most definitely NOT one of the first rappers ever.

advertising is not allowed. desist now.

[SuperBadMonkey]

These red hot chili peppers threads are getting very samey. Think about it, after the thread starter posted this thread what did he expect to happen>? Some peopl ewill give there opinions but wont meen anything. It would hel looking back at the rest of these types of threads, get your answer from there


Currently red hot chili peppers are pop rock, allthough i fail to see how they were ever funk. They had a hint of funk in there somewhere due to flea, and jhon frusciante ( or dave navaro) with there kick *** distortion and wah.

[mutant!]

Can I tell you something? Even if you post in this thread to diss it, you're still posting in it. Thus, it will stay at the top of the forum, people will continue to see it, and therefore people will continue to post in it.

Just let it die a quiet death. It's the only way.

[KRASH]

Can I tell you something? Even if you post in this thread to diss it, you're still posting in it. Thus, it will stay at the top of the forum, people will continue to see it, and therefore people will continue to post in it.

Just let it die a quiet death. It's the only way.



:lol:


i made this thread like a month ago!

:D

[Kiddo]

Red hot chili peppers = good music

[MaxLeighton]

Basically, for every person that says they're funk there will be a person that says that they aren't funk, so...




They are just good musicians who cut their teeth on funk by the master of funk,George Clinton.
I'd say they are a rock band with elements of funk just due to their approach being more guitar and volume driven.Funk is more bass and drum driven with a deep pocket and that really isnt the case with The RHCP's.

You do realize that the first four albums are completely bass driven, right?

[franz sanchez]

You do realize that the first four albums are completely bass driven, right?

....so are all of Cachaito's albums. And Sly and Robbies albums........but that doesn't make them funk.

Doh! Just bumped this dog of a thread back to the top.......sorry!

[Brandnewlow]

styles:

flea= punk rock and funk
hillel slovak = classic rock and funk
john f = funk rock punk elcectronic (eg. devo)
chad smith = rock

actually, chad smith is more of a jazz drummer. You don't notice him until you watch him live. Live at slane made me appreciate the whole band 100x more, great musicianship, and amazing jams.

[MaxLeighton]

....so are all of Cachaito's albums. And Sly and Robbies albums........but that doesn't make them funk.

Doh! Just bumped this dog of a thread back to the top.......sorry!
Hmm... I searched my post for the part where I said that they were funk because they were bass driven but, I couldn't find it.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Nah, these guys are "funk" like Primus is "funk". They have funk elements, but other than that they are a rock band.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

true



but flea just has that total flow goin on it gives me a total funk vibb

his is more kind of standing out over the other guyus you know?

Do Hillel Slovak and Cliff Martinez not exist anymore?


WTF!?

[basgitarist]

stop posting in this topic... everybody agrees so it's not really something worth discussing

[minibert335]

dont ya just hate the people that say the the CHILIS r commercial sell outs there not there just doing music that people luv and wanna listen 2!:wave:

[PinkFreud]

i hate you for bumping this


STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD. LET IT DIE.

[rhcp a test of time]

Sorry i have to post because....What??First off, I am i huge fan of the chili peppers and they are my favorite band by far. I dont understand how you can say they are pop-punk. I understand that there songs on by the way aren't like any of their previous albums in any way really but they are what I would call alternative rock, not pop-punk.

The thing is that you could probably give every single chilis album a different genre classification. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SUCH A FUUKIN GREAT BAND. They have such a wide range of song styles and each end of the spectrum is fukin amazing. From the song Tear on By the Way to Blood Sugar Sex Magic to Power of Equality on Blood Sugar to frekin Brother's Cup on Freaky Styley they are all great song.

As said before: long live the chilis

[jam9383]

let this thread die its old

[mutant!]

I dont understand how you can say they are pop-punk.
That's BS, we're saying they're pop rock. There's a difference.

Someone get this thread locked, please.

[Fatback]

Why do you guys scream for threads to be locked? I hate it when someone decides that all possible opinions have been offered up.
Tired of the thread? Don't open it anymore! Simple really.

With that said, I would just add that Flea is in no danger of ever contacting sickle cell anemia.
The boy just ain't all that funky.

[mutant!]

Becausethisthreadisdegeneratingintoaflamefestktxhb ye

[Fatback]

don'topenitifitmakesyoucrazy:lol:

[jam9383]

don'topenitifitmakesyoucrazy:lol:
couldnt you say that for any thread thats closed

[coheneran]

This is something I have always wanted to know, i love the red hot chili peppers but i don't know what genre they fall under, people say Funk, thus the reason im posting here others say Alt/Inde some Rock, Modern Rock Pop Punk.How do they fall under and what do they fall under?

This was probably said a lot, but as a hardcore peppers fan, I have to reply.
When they first started out, they were a kind of hardcore funk style, for example, in Uplift Mofo Party Plan or The Red Hot Chili Peppers. In the late 80's they got a kind of punky sound into the mix, mostly in Mother's Milk. After Hillel's death, Kiedis went into a tail spin and started writing heavy lyrics. They were also going through a lot of guitarists until they found their current one, John Fruciante. When Kurt Cobain killed himself, or a while after, they released One Hot Minute, which is a very slow album with a few tribute songs in it, one obviously about Cobain. Blood Sugar Sex Magik was their last truely funky album, though it was slower funk and sometimes melancholy, and that's when the Chili Peppers died for me. Californication had a few nice tracks, but not near the same level of genius as their early albums. By The Way was the worst album ever released, in relation to how they were. I blame Hillel's death, it bummed them all out way too much. In my opinion though, their best album was Out In L.A.

[Fatback]

Bump.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[mutant!]

Bump.
:lol: I hate you. :upset:

:lol:

[basgitarist]

:D :lol: