Should we kick out our rhythm guitarist?

[pitchfork]

Hi guys my band has a bit of a situation at the moment our rythm guitarist, Rob is crap. Me and my drummer Liam think we should chuck him out but hes a really nice guy and he hasnt really done anything to be kicked out but its annoying being in a band where all your rythm guitarist can play is simple songs. I don't want to lose a freind over it but the band is limited to playing simple stuff at the moment should we kick him out or, wait for him to get better what do you guys think.
cheers,
Ross

[karl]

Hi guys my band has a bit of a situation at the moment our rythm guitarist, Rob is crap. Me and my drummer Liam think we should chuck him out but hes a really nice guy and he hasnt really done anything to be kicked out but its annoying being in a band where all your rythm guitarist can play is simple songs. I don't want to lose a freind over it but the band is limited to playing simple stuff at the moment should we kick him out or, wait for him to get better what do you guys think.
cheers,
Ross

No.

You could help to speed up his development a bit though. :)

[ThePinkPanther]

No, help him be better. If you are or have a lead guitarist tell them to help him out.

[BassMan182]

come on, this isn't something you can ask on a poll. it's like asking if you should break up with your girlfriend, just not as extreme

[Akira]

Why exactly does a rhythm guitarist need to be all that good? I mean lead guitar can do the bells and whistles.

[BlackNoiseAudio]

Well, at the risk of sounding like a jerk...... If you guys are serious, then you sould do what's good for the band, and some people just aren't musicians. If the dude truly cannot be helped to be usuable.... then ya gotta drop them. I don't care if it's rhythym guitar, lead guitar, or backup tamborine...... everyone must be on top of their game if you want a career from it.

I did this a year ago to one of my best friends. I told him that if he truly believed in music that he could find another band./ He did, and we are friends again. If the guys truly worth the friendship, he'll eventually understand.

[real_low_mind]

Well, at the risk of sounding like a jerk...... If you guys are serious, then you sould do what's good for the band, and some people just aren't musicians. If the dude truly cannot be helped to be usuable.... then ya gotta drop them. I don't care if it's rhythym guitar, lead guitar, or backup tamborine...... everyone must be on top of their game if you want a career from it.

I did this a year ago to one of my best friends. I told him that if he truly believed in music that he could find another band./ He did, and we are friends again. If the guys truly worth the friendship, he'll eventually understand.
yeah, if its a serious band, kick him out. if its just a side thing, just try to get him to learn better songs.

[waronpeace]

Hi guys my band has a bit of a situation at the moment our rythm guitarist, Rob is crap. Me and my drummer Liam think we should chuck him out but hes a really nice guy and he hasnt really done anything to be kicked out but its annoying being in a band where all your rythm guitarist can play is simple songs. I don't want to lose a freind over it but the band is limited to playing simple stuff at the moment should we kick him out or, wait for him to get better what do you guys think.
cheers,
Ross

this might be a little too late, but no, you shouldnt. it sounds a lot like the situation im in now or was. im the rythm guitarist for my band and i joined it with only 3 months of expirience. the fact is rythm guitarist is easy to do okay, but hard to do excellent. if all youre asking him to do is chords than im sure anyone can do that especially in drop d. and that will give him plenty of time to catch up to the rest of the band. it took me about 4 months with guitar lessons to master all the chords and start soloing. if i were you or him i would tell him to spend a little bit of money on lessons, it goes a long way, especially in the first year.

but, its your decision anyways

[moaner]

come on, this isn't something you can ask on a poll. it's like asking if you should break up with your girlfriend, just not as extreme

no, more important!

[PainKiller8191]

i say drop him, he's slowing the band down and u shouldn't take that....say it nicely though....hell hate u for a while and then get over it...

I used to be in a band where it was me on bass/vox, 3 of my friends on guitar, guitar/vox, and drums

now the drummer and guitarist weren't really that good at all....but the guitar/vox guy was(so i thought),
so after a while i just quit that band, the band broke up, i had a talk with that guitarist/vocalist, and we formed a new band, with a really talented drummer and a VERY talented lead guitarist...

and now we're all thinking about getting rid of that guitar/vocals guy coz he's not contributing to the band and hes slowing us down...

if you have a vision or a dream, you can't let anyone slow you down, even if its your best friend....look at Iron Maiden's "the early years" dvd disc 2...steve harris says the same thing, the things that slows you down shouldn't be like this, they should be more complicated

[pitchfork]

Ok ive decided to give him a month to improve and im getting him some lessons free off a mate who is an awesome guitarist and owes me a favour. He just keeps making mistakes and cant play very fast if he hasnt got any better in a month im gonna boot him so he cant slow the band down we are a serious band and we are gonna try and make it but we arent gonna sit around waiting for stuff to be done.
cheers,
ross

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

Tell him that if he doesn't improve, there will be no place for him in the band. Being the respected musician that I'm sure he is, he will:

a) Gracefully accept that he sucks and leave

b) Try harder and harder to obtain the skill necessary to be in the band

[Merkaba]

A month isnt shlt. Be realistic. If he's decent...give him a while. If he's just all out aweful....goddam, how did he get in the band in the first place? Mixing friends with business?

[SonorKen]

If you have no respect for him than this do him a favor and ask him to leave. You should have never even thought to ask something like this on the internet.

[delinquent]

i think trying to help him is a good idea.
i mean, it would be pretty lame to kick him out suddenly just cos you think he sucks... he might be thinking hes doing alright and dosent need to work harder. you know?

[kurtis *W*]

the main thing you need to do is let him know he needs to practice. Maybe he will get a hint and do some work.

[lightningmetal666]

I believe playing in a band is like having a regular job. If he doesn't have the necessary skills then he isn't qualified for the job. If he tries to show improvement and is taking the classes or training then let him stay.

BTW, give him more than a month. If he is improving even the slightest bit within that month, then give him more time.

[lamblite]

we had this same problem in our band, but he was playing bass and he was horrible i mean couldnt keep tempo or anything, but if the player can keep tempo and play the right notes and he's rhythm then he's probably doing ok.

[Akira]

The most important thing to remember is that He is really your friend he will understand, and you will stay friends.