why piano is outdated

[Behind Zildjians]

why noone play piano nomore? even I dont :amaze:

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

A lot more people play piano than you think.

[ragingrob]

Because of the types of music that everyone is into these days...

[Ned]

why noone play piano nomore? even I dont :amaze:

If you mean JIMMY Noone, it's because he's dead.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

:lol:

[crazyguy832]

Piano's huge. Ever listen to Mortal Treason? That's death metal, with a piano in it.

*huggles Mortal Treason CD*

[freakmeeko]

I'm glad to say that piano/keys has come back for today's modern rock. I may not enjoy it too much, but it makes the young ones want to start this all of a sudden "cool" instrument.

[morrissey]

Synths are back in, that's close enough for me. :amaze:

[Mekkalayakay]

Dude, look how many keyboardists there are in metal.

[The_Mop]

There's that guy from Dimmu Borgir - now he's one talented mofo.

[Krabsworth]

Piano's huge. Ever listen to Mortal Treason? That's death metal, with a piano in it.

*huggles Mortal Treason CD*

Ugh. Death metal is nothing but useless noise.

[crazyguy832]

Ugh. Death metal is nothing but useless noise.
Death metal kicks @ss, what are you talking about?

Nah, that's cool, I understand I'm of a minority.

:thumb:

[mcs]

No music is useless noise. That's a completely immature thign to say. Death Metal is one of my favourite genres because when you first listen to it it sounds like useless noise.
The longer it takes to like a song, the more you'll like it.

[black_star]

i would actually like to learn to play a few chords on a keyboard really.

i play bass.

keyboards would rock, especially if i could go to the keyboard in the middle of a song(with my bass still around my neck) and play a melody in a gig and then go back to playing bass :lol:
i have big dreams for me.

[crazyguy832]

lol, don't worry. Simple chords are easy to learn. Just do like this (X is hit the key, O is skip it):

OXOXOXO

Pretty much anywhere on the keyboard, that'll make a chord. Also...

OXOXOOX

I think that's it... yeah, pretty sure it is.

^_^

You should get a chord book or something though... and definetely a teacher if you're serious.

[Hells Bells]

Death metal kicks @ss, what are you talking about?

Nah, that's cool, I understand I'm of a minority.



No, I like some death metal, but it's definitely an acquired taste...lol it's hard to get past the lyrics.
And I never though Mortal Treason was death metal...but oh well :p

[Irish_Scorpion]

[QUOTE=crazyguy832]Death metal kicks @ss, what are you talking about?

Nah, that's cool, I understand I'm of a minority.

QUOTE]

No, I like some death metal, but it's definitely an acquired taste...lol it's hard to get past the lyrics.
And I never though Mortal Treason was death metal...but oh well :p

and i never thought my mom was having sex with the milkman :upset:

[TheWoodenSlug]

and i never thought my mom was having sex with the milkman :upset:

And I never thought she was serious when she said that she had a husband and a family.

But seriously I'm just starting to get into piano of late (usually play guitar). Much harder to teach yourself, in my opinion, in terms of learning a song that you like. I'm working on The Luckiest by Ben Folds. Have the intro down. Anyway I think there is still plenty of piano being played just not as the main instrument. Although there still are quite a few good "mainstream" piano based acts such as Ben Folds, Nick Cave, Torim Amos and Regina Spektor to name a few.

[crazyguy832]

Pianos are rarely used as main instruments in bands anymore. Secondary and backup's what I usually see.

And how can you say Mortal Treason ISN'T death metal?

o_O

[GurS]

Keane is absolutly HUGE in the UK.

They consist of a singer, a drummer and... a pianist. And believe me, they are HUGE over here in Britain. So it's not really outdated :)

[morrissey]

BUT they also suck.

A better example would be Coldplay. Sure they suck, but not quite as much as Keane.

Muse incorporates it quite well too. I think it's bigger in Britain than in America, just as a general trend.

[pinkyeti]

The Piano is pretty big in Spoon's music, and that's a kickass band.

[Evil Peavey]

I just got into Piano a couple of weeks ago. I love it. I could already read music (although I was a little rusty) and I'm having a blast with it. I play banjo, mandolin, guitar (acoustic/electric) bass and toy around with drums. My keyboard has quickly become one of my faveorite instruments.

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

And I never thought she was serious when she said that she had a husband and a family.
:lol:!

[kmarcher87]

Dude Keane are freakin' cool. I'm a noob keyboardist... I love em' cause of bands like Pink Floyd, Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer... prog bands of the like.

[Gypsy Campervan]

lol, don't worry. Simple chords are easy to learn. Just do like this (X is hit the key, O is skip it):

OXOXOXO

Pretty much anywhere on the keyboard, that'll make a chord. Also...

OXOXOOX

I think that's it... yeah, pretty sure it is.

^_^

You should get a chord book or something though... and definetely a teacher if you're serious.

Why not say 1 3 5 for a major (in general) and flatten the 3rd for a minor?

[Bass_swede]

i would actually like to learn to play a few chords on a keyboard really.

i play bass.

keyboards would rock, especially if i could go to the keyboard in the middle of a song(with my bass still around my neck) and play a melody in a gig and then go back to playing bass :lol:
i have big dreams for me.

*cough*Geddy wannabe*cough* :thumb: :wave:

[crazyguy832]

Why not say 1 3 5 for a major (in general) and flatten the 3rd for a minor?
Because...

... well...

Flatten the third? People who have NEVER played piano won't know what that means... eeyeah... lol

And I can play using 1 3 5. However, I play major chords like this all the time:

3 4 5

Or this:

1 2 4

Or:

1 2 3

It all depends what my other fingers are doing and what I'm gonna be doing next. Generally, I prefer 1 3 5, but like I said... it all depends.

[the2stranger]

the one 135 is my favorite way too, you can find your basic chords anywhere like that.
but sometimes it's just easier to pla chords different.

piano rules
and it's in way more bands than people think :)

EDIT:
crazy guy how do you play a 123 chord? :confused:

do you just play CDE, or CC#D? :amaze:

[J.P.]

I play Keyboards/piano, guitar, bass, violin, mandolin, banjo, ect.

And I'm only 14.

[RyMac59]

Why not say 1 3 5 for a major (in general) and flatten the 3rd for a minor?
Thats the way to think of it. It's the theoretical way of looking at it, for any instrument.

[Hells Bells]

:lol: The Mop, I love your avatar. *steals avatar and runs*

I'd say Mortal Treason is closer to metalcore than death. Death metal is more complex, and it’s usually fast and intense…and then in Mortal Treason’s songs there’s a lack of solos that I never noticed in death metal.

[Krabsworth]

My friend is just giving me his 250 dollar yamaha. For free.

[Hells Bells]

Piano or keyoard? That's awesome, although I'm not sure how good it's gonna be if it was only $250. Still, he just gave it to you, that's very generous.

[crazyguy832]

EDIT:
crazy guy how do you play a 123 chord? :confused:

do you just play CDE, or CC#D? :amaze:
lol, I was talking about fingering.

XD

Same chord as the basic 1 3 5, just different fingerings was what I was talking about.

I play Keyboards/piano, guitar, bass, violin, mandolin, banjo, ect.

And I'm only 14.
I play piano, guiatar (a bit, granted), drums, euphonium, various percussions, etc.

And I'm only 14.

It's no big deal, lots of young people are talented... you didn't need to pop up and randomly say that...

[PianoDan]

BUT they also suck.

A better example would be Coldplay. Sure they suck, but not quite as much as Keane.

Muse incorporates it quite well too. I think it's bigger in Britain than in America, just as a general trend.
I love Keane, but I understand they're not everyone's thing - pretty "poppy", repetitive type stuff.

Coldplay is much, much worse. And they're not a better example, because their simple (and annoying) piano makes Keane's look of a very high quality and complexity (which it isn't). And it's not the main instrument in all their songs, as they use a lot of guitar as well, where Keane has none (other than the bass, of course).

Muse is a far better example than both.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

why noone play piano nomore? even I dont :amaze:

i do

[moaner]

I love Keane, but I understand they're not everyone's thing - pretty "poppy", repetitive type stuff.


No, Keane really make me sick. ITs just so false- the first time I heard it, it was like "great, almost midi sounding piano and drums and heavily pitch corrected vocals, this really deserves merit... :rolleyes:"

I guess its really the pop buying british public I should be directing my anger towards, but they're just TERRIBLE!

[Firecracker]

Threadstarter's stupid.
More people play piano when they are younger, more people give up before they get into music with piano in. They don't know what they're missing in my opinion.

Dream Theater
Jordan Rudess

<3

[PianoDan]

No, Keane really make me sick. ITs just so false- the first time I heard it, it was like "great, almost midi sounding piano and drums and heavily pitch corrected vocals, this really deserves merit... :rolleyes:"

I guess its really the pop buying british public I should be directing my anger towards, but they're just TERRIBLE!
Fair comment. I guess it just appeals to the pop-buying Australian side of me.

But surely you can't say that Coldplay is all that much better?

[Firecracker]

All of Coldplay's songs sound the same, if the piano in 'speed of sound' didn't sound exactly like the piano in 'clocks' i might have a higher opinion of them. Chris Martin is a good pianist, but his composing side is slightly less impressive.

[SoleFactionBassist]

Most keyboardists or pianists I know don't play mainstream music which is why you don't often see bands with keyboard/piano because especially piano is more of a classical instrument, like a double bass, sometimes you'll see one but not often, it's a classical instrument not a contempary.

[Flake]

Flake from rammstein.There huge in europe.And he's an awesome pianist.Or keyboardist.Whatever you wanna call it.

[Camel42]

I play Keyboards/piano, guitar, bass, violin, mandolin, banjo, ect.

And I'm only 14.
Most of those are stringed...

anyways give me an instrument and I bet I can play it too; who cares?

[freakmeeko]

Look.
Piano= Classical, Jazz, some rock.
Elec. Keys= don't leave for the show w/o it.

[Flake]

Good point.I love playing my keyboard,but i think regular pianos are boring.

[costas]

Good point.I love playing my keyboard,but i think regular pianos are boring.

Well I 'm a bit :amaze:
Just listen to a piece of Rachmaninof or Chopin or try to play it (if you can).
This should make you change your mind completely.

[PianoDan]

Most keyboardists or pianists I know don't play mainstream music which is why you don't often see bands with keyboard/piano because especially piano is more of a classical instrument, like a double bass, sometimes you'll see one but not often, it's a classical instrument not a contempary.
Rock music without a piano or at least a keyboard is lacking.

I mean electric keys have their place in rock bands but I'm a pianist, not a keyboardist; when I play in my band (my church band) I play a keyboard but as a piano (I wish we had a piano, but we don't); I rarely if ever use any other voices. I'm not a keyboardist. A real piano would sound about 800 times better.

But without the keyboard on piano setting, the band would be lacking.

Any band can be improved with a piano.

[CPU CNTRL C]

Because of the types of music that everyone is into these days...

All the more reason to...Technically, a keyboard is a piano, and controlling MIDI tracks with them is really unlimited to the types of music you can play.

[Flake]

Death metal kicks @ss, what are you talking about?

Nah, that's cool, I understand I'm of a minority.

:thumb:
Well then i guess im in that minority with you. :thumb:
Death metal is awesome and has some awesome keyboardist.I mean thats what my band plays,and if you get past the disortion,keyboard usually has a clean sound countering the guitars disortion. :)

[KSas]

No music is useless noise. That's a completely immature thign to say. Death Metal is one of my favourite genres because when you first listen to it it sounds like useless noise.
The longer it takes to like a song, the more you'll like it.
But it's not complicated noise. From a standpoint of say, a classically trained musician, metal is not very interesting.

[crazyguy832]

But it's not complicated noise. From a standpoint of say, a classically trained musician, metal is not very interesting.
*cough*Rhapsody*cough*owned*cough*

Seriously, just look at Rhapsody... Alex Staropoli HAS to be classicaly trained (he writes for an entire orchestra, plus the rest of his band with the help of only one other person), yet they play metal. The singer as well has to be classicaly trained.

So don't tell me clasically trained people don't like metal. Just go listen to Rhapsody.

[Hells Bells]

*cough*Rhapsody*cough*owned*cough*

Seriously, just look at Rhapsody... Alex Staropoli HAS to be classicaly trained (he writes for an entire orchestra, plus the rest of his band with the help of only one other person), yet they play metal. The singer as well has to be classicaly trained.

So don't tell me clasically trained people don't like metal. Just go listen to Rhapsody.

Thank you :D

But it's not complicated noise. From a standpoint of say, a classically trained musician, metal is not very interesting.

I'm a classically trained musician, and I love metal :p
Stuff like NWAHM, I agree, it isn't very interesting, but there are a lot of metal bands who create music that's just as complex, beautiful, and unique as classical music. Many, like crazyguy832 pointed out, even incorporate classical into the music they write.

[crazyguy832]

Thank you :D
You're welcome :D