Should Steroid Users Be Banned?

[wwb27]

Do you think the MLB should ban steroid abusers.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Yes....is there a reason they shouldnt?

I like the olympic rules. First offense is a 2 year suspension, second offense is a lifetime ban. This 10 day ban is horseshit.

[wwb27]

Yes....is there a reason they shouldnt?

I like the olympic rules. First offense is a 2 year suspension, second offense is a lifetime ban. This 10 day ban is horseshit.

the only way to teach them is to never let them back.

[Against Miik!]

No its not, becuase that gives them no chance to get clean. I think a harsher ban is needed. Kenny Rogers got 20 days, so apparently degrading the game is only half as bad as yelling at a camera man.

[wwb27]

No its not, becuase that gives them no chance to get clean. I think a harsher ban is needed. Kenny Rogers got 20 days, so apparently degrading the game is only half as bad as yelling at a camera man.

i agree

[Guitar_fool202]

Also some players dont know that they might be taking steroids. Like in Palmieros case. he didnt know he was taking steroids but he was taking something with it in it.

so i believe that they should have a harsher punishment but not banning let that be a third offence after being proven guilty.

[wwb27]

how do you know raffy is telling the truth?

[Mute Print]

I don't think you could have a permanent ban after one offence, because it is possible that the test could be faulty, or that something else, such as an OTC medicine, could cause someone to fail the test. Also, it doesn't give the player a chance to get clean. However, I think a harsher punishment should definately be put in place.

[Guitar_fool202]

Why would someone, that obviously would make cooperstown even with out steroids, take illegal substances? hes got enough endurance to get those numbers even if he were to have taken steroids.

[CombatRock]

No its not, becuase that gives them no chance to get clean. I think a harsher ban is needed. Kenny Rogers got 20 days, so apparently degrading the game is only half as bad as yelling at a camera man.

12 ****ing 3!

its so messed up how kenny got 20 games for "hurting" a camera man. and you cheat and what not and get 10 games.


by the way. i dont think you should get banned if you got caught.

[Zmev]

I thought first time offenders got 50 games.

What happened to that?

[wwb27]

I don't think you could have a permanent ban after one offence, because it is possible that the test could be faulty, or that something else, such as an OTC medicine, could cause someone to fail the test. Also, it doesn't give the player a chance to get clean. However, I think a harsher punishment should definately be put in place.

I think 2nd offense would be reasonable also.

Some of these guys have tarnished the previous record holder's stats.

Do you think that is fair to the era where everyone played well because of pure talent thats these guys now hold these records?

[Against Miik!]

Steroids aren't the only difference between this era and previous ones.

[Mute Print]

If a guy tests positive twice or three times, than a lifetime ban is definately reasonable.

And there is no question that it is unfair to the guys of the past. No matter who holds the records, I think people need to realize that the guys who played a long time (Ted Williams, Lou Gehrig, etc.) were probably the greatest the game will ever see. Not only was it a level playing field back then (as far as steroids go), it was also a different game. The bats were different, the parks were bigger, and in some cases, the pitchers were better. The guys of the past will always be better than today's greats in my book.

[MattSharpIsCool]

12 ****ing 3!

its so messed up how kenny got 20 games for "hurting" a camera man. and you cheat and what not and get 10 games.


by the way. i dont think you should get banned if you got caught.

20 games for Kenny Rogers is 5 games.

10 days for Raffy Palmeiro is 8 or 9 games.

The punishment for steroids is still NOWHERE NEAR tough enough. They get like 3 or 4 chances before the suspension is actually worth anything.

[Endless Obsession]

My opinion.

Football:

1st offense - 8 Weeks
2nd offense - Lifetime Ban

Baseball:

1st offense - 20 GAMES (hitter)
30 GAMES (relief pitcher, closer)
60 GAMES (starting pitcher)

2nd Offense - 1 year

3rd Offense - Lifetime Ban

Hockey and basketball I dont really know anything about the steroid situation so I have no opinion.

[morrissey]

Let me start off by saying I don't follow baseball so I don't know what the rules are on this subject.

As far as I'm concerned, extremely tough punishments are needed for obvious/intentional steroid use. If you're talking about taking some pills because you pulled your groin or something, then I don't think that is really an issue though players and their doctors should be extremely careful so as not to be falsely accused.

If the usage is intentional (for example taking steroids as performance enhancers, not to suppress an ailment), then I think the punishments should be extremely severe. At least a whole season off, without pay. Perhaps lifetime suspensions if it's really bad. Players need to know that under no circumstances is it acceptable, and they need to deal with this harshly. If a player is a risk of losing millions of dollars, perhaps for the rest of their career, then I think usage would drop down.

There should also be heavily available rehabiliation resources for those with addictions/problems. Sure they may not be able to play for a season, but they shouldn't be hung out to dry. They have issues that need to be sorted.

Players should all be on an even playing field. There is no need to cheat, there is no need to lie. There is no need to abuse their bodies or their minds. The fact that some players take performance enhances is it is dangerous, it is costly, and it is disrespectful to their teammates and entire staff, to their fans who spend their hard earned money paying these players' salary, and to themselves.

We don't need to see 100 homerun players. We don't need 20 run games. People have become accustomed to it, and who knows how much of it was due to steroid use or dishonest playing on the part of the players? And if none of the increased records in recent baseball were due to players using steroids, then it obviously isn't necessary, so stop.

This is just baseball, where along with football and Olympic sports (like running) it is a HUGE problem, but there are many other smaller sports where it doesn't come up as often - it should. There are most definitely problems in the NHL, NBA, NLL etc., they just aren't in the limelight. Those problems need to be solved ASAP before they blossom to Olympic proportions (but seriously). And perhaps the professional sports leagues should meet collectively to help minimise the issue.

One more thing, they should nip this at the source. Educate young players (ESPECIALLY high school and college players), because without knowledge of the harms and detriments of steroid use they can easily turn around and become professional players with a steroid addiction that can cost them everything.

[wwb27]

My opinion.

Football:

1st offense - 8 Weeks
2nd offense - Lifetime Ban

Baseball:

1st offense - 20 GAMES (hitter)
30 GAMES (relief pitcher, closer)
60 GAMES (starting pitcher)

2nd Offense - 1 year

3rd Offense - Lifetime Ban

Hockey and basketball I dont really know anything about the steroid situation so I have no opinion.

1st offense has to be the same for a players.

[sp1406]

I think it should be, 1st offense- 1 yr. ban
2nd offense- lifetime
What they have now is just stupid. The 10 games then 50 or whatever. Its too complicated. Test positive once your out a year. Two times never come back you **** cheater!!

[wwb27]

I think it should be, 1st offense- 1 yr. ban
2nd offense- lifetime
What they have now is just stupid. The 10 games then 50 or whatever. Its too complicated. Test positive once your out a year. Two times never come back you **** cheater!!

thats reasonable.

[HTLSM]

hmm yea

[HTLSM]

I think it should be, 1st offense- 1 yr. ban
2nd offense- lifetime
What they have now is just stupid. The 10 games then 50 or whatever. Its too complicated. Test positive once your out a year. Two times never come back you **** cheater!!
yea thats what should happen if they want to cheat to get there #s better take a whole year away to **** those ****ing cheaters career

[yamahano2]

12 ****ing 3!

its so messed up how kenny got 20 games for "hurting" a camera man. and you cheat and what not and get 10 games.

I will agree with you also. What Kenny Rogers did was wrong, but what kind of message is MLB sending when they give Kenny Rogers a longer punishment, and Palmiero only gets 10 days. I don't think first time offenders should be banned, but I think a harsher punishment is needed. I like the commissioner’s original proposal. 1st offence, 50 games, 2nd offence, 100 games (or was it a whole season), and the 3rd time is a perminant ban.

[Understanding In a Crash]

the only way to teach them is to never let them back.
The only way to teach them is to let steroids have no suspension or ban. If they let steroids around in baseball at a use at your own risk policy, it'd probably be for the better. No one really complained in the 90's about steroids and obviously ALOT of players were using them, probably more then now because they are cracking down but alot more people liked the game.

If a player wants to be a meat head and take steroids for the fame he's doing it at his own risk and testicle shrinkage...

If you ban people from baseball their will be an uproar and every player who gets "banned" will fight the MLB in a legal fight... It wouldn't stop anything really.

[KurtCobain2902]

Chris Rock said it perfectly, "If you could take a pill (or an injection) that would make you better at your job, would you take it?" **** right you would.

[morrissey]

Chris Rock said it perfectly, "If you could take a pill (or an injection) that would make you better at your job, would you take it?" **** right you would.
Not if there were extreme consequences that would outweigh the benefits.

[Understanding In a Crash]

Chris Rock said it perfectly, "If you could take a pill (or an injection) that would make you better at your job, would you take it?" **** right you would.
Not if I grow breasts/shrinking testicles.

[MattMan999]

Yes, steroids are illegal. What if the player was never good. They should be banned, and if not banned suspended for more then 10 days, maybe 2-3 months or something.

[nrcafootball68]

I think it should be, 1st offense- 1 yr. ban
2nd offense- lifetime
What they have now is just stupid. The 10 games then 50 or whatever. Its too complicated. Test positive once your out a year. Two times never come back you **** cheater!!
sounds good

[MattMan999]

sounds good

Yes it does.

[morrissey]

It reads well, that's for sure.