Band Profile: NOFX- Pop-Punk Must Know Number Three

[Drop The Baby]

Sorry, yeah underated!

What an amazing song that really is!

[Gnarmageddon]

I was gonna buy S&M airlines the other day, but i thought it might have sucked.
If you like Ribbed, you'd like S&M.

You like S&M more than White Trash???? :confused:

I think i'd say i like Heavy Petting Zoo the least, nothing on that album really sticks out.
I was never that big of a fan of White Trash.

Heavy Petting Zoo is really good for their newer stuff. Hobophobic, Philthy Phil, Freedom Like a Shopping Cart, Release the Hostages, Love Story, August 8th. All excellent songs.

No way is Whatever Didi Wants one of their best songs, it's one of the worst of that album! Hobophobic and Philthy Phil are easily the best off that album
I'd go as far as saying it's one of the worst songs they've ever written.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I'd go as far as saying everyone who doesn't like Whatever Dee Dee Wants is gay :angry: :(

[Weezerfan_returns]

I finally got WIWC.... it's really different. I like it.

You Will Lose Faith is a million times better on the album than it was on the
7" of the month club. I still think they should've put "You're Wrong" on here, with the entire band playing it.

Just got done listening to one celled creature. It really seems liek NOFX/Fat and Propagandhi are really at each other's throats.

[skateMASTERbater2]

Just got done listening to one celled creature. It really seems liek NOFX/Fat and Propagandhi are really at each other's throats.
Yeah really, I don't see Propagandhi releasing another album on Fat Wreck. I read an interview with Jord having a go at Fat Mikes politics and his retarded magazine. He also said they would probably change labels after PCL was released

[FauxApathy]

I became a Nofx fan pretty much over night.

I had The War on errorism, which i thought was ok. Then someone else told me that their other albums were better.

In the month of April, I bought, 45 or 56 songs, Ribbed, Heavy Petting Zoo, Never Trust A Hippy, Pump up the Valuum, So Long And Thanks For All The Shoes, The Decline, and Wolves In Wolves Clothing.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

lmfao.

I think WOE has some quality tracks, such as Medicocore, Seperation of church and street, She's Nibs, Decomposur, Mattersville, We've got two jealous. Actualy it's one of their best albums probably imo.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Yeah really, I don't see Propagandhi releasing another album on Fat Wreck. I read an interview with Jord having a go at Fat Mikes politics and his retarded magazine. He also said they would probably change labels after PCL was released
I think that although fat mike can be sort of a dumbass at times, it should be noted that he's actually doing something.

Although Fat Mike may have been a little off, he organized something, tried to get people involved, while Propagandhi did nothing. Even if Chris, Jord, and Todd are more informed, their attitude is complete bullshit. I almost wonder if Propagandhi will put out another album. If they do, i'm sure it'll be another 5 years. Assholes.

[TakeWarning]

lmfao.

I think WOE has some quality tracks, such as Medicocore, Seperation of church and street, She's Nibs, Decomposur, Mattersville, We've got two jealous. Actualy it's one of their best albums probably imo.

Separation of Church and Skate*, She's Nubs*, Medio-core*,Decomposeur*,We've Got Two Jealous Agains*.
God, get it right.

IMO Medio-core is easily one of the worst, if not the worst on the album.

I think that although fat mike can be sort of a dumbass at times, it should be noted that he's actually doing something.

Although Fat Mike may have been a little off, he organized something, tried to get people involved, while Propagandhi did nothing. Even if Chris, Jord, and Todd are more informed, their attitude is complete bull****. I almost wonder if Propagandhi will put out another album. If they do, i'm sure it'll be another 5 years. spatulas.

Yeah, I didn't think PCL was up to scratch with their older stuff, and I don't wanna wait another 5 years if their next album won't be any good. They should get off their lazy asses and produce one every 2 or 3 years.

[Rancid Ban]

lmfao i dunno why i wrote "of church and street" hhahaa.

[Tooth Ache]

"Hotdog in the hallway" describes my friend and his girlfriend, I like to play it when he's around.

[skateMASTERbater2]

I think that although fat mike can be sort of a dumbass at times, it should be noted that he's actually doing something.

Although Fat Mike may have been a little off, he organized something, tried to get people involved, while Propagandhi did nothing. Even if Chris, Jord, and Todd are more informed, their attitude is complete bullshit. I almost wonder if Propagandhi will put out another album. If they do, i'm sure it'll be another 5 years. spatulas.
The reason they only release an album every 5 years is because they're all involved in groups that fight against mondialisation and capitalism.That's not nothing. But I'm in no way a big fan of propagandhi and of their attitude.
And as for Fat Mike, he could of done something after the elections, Punk voter had a hel'l of alot of followers. He could of used them to make an anti-war organisation or something. Instead he decided to start Punk Rock Confidential. I think that says it all

[Weezerfan_returns]

And as for Fat Mike, he could of done something after the elections, Punk voter had a hel'l of alot of followers. He could of used them to make an anti-war organisation or something. Instead he decided to start Punk Rock Confidential. I think that says it all

good point.

[Weezerfan_returns]

I'm still on fat mike's side though. Propagandhi just seem like such elitists.

[AIRIC]

They make better records though.

[Weezerfan_returns]

They make better records though.
Propagandhi, make better records than nofx? After comparing PCL to wolves in wolves clothing, i think nofx is making better records. For now, at least

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I think I may have missed something but whats the deal with NOFX and Propaghandi?

[AIRIC]

I really don't like Wolves in Wolves' Clothing

[Weezerfan_returns]

I think I may have missed something but whats the deal with NOFX and Propaghandi?
Yeah, they're really not getting along. To make a long story short, Propagandhi thinks that Fat Mike and Fat Wreck are too buisness orientated, and think that the whole Punkvoter/Rock Against Bush thing was also buisness orientated. I thinkt they disagree with Fat Mike's politics also.

NOFX are simply sick of Prop.'s ****'ty attitude, and their snobbiness.

On Rock For Sustainable Capitalism, Propagandhi disses Fat Mike, and his label. On One Celled Creature, NOFX disses Prop. for their crappy attitude and negative outlook.


... and that's the short version :lol:

I really don't like Wolves in Wolves' Clothing
Wether you like it or not, you have to admit it is better than Potemkin City Limits.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Propagandhi - Rock For Sustainable Capitalism
I ****in' love that one rock video where that ****ing jack-*** mohawked millionaire prances around by far the worst sausage party on earth, where by mere chance he's caught on film shaking hands with an incredibly diverse collection of patriotic skins. I like the message it sends: With a Rebel yell, Just Do Exactly What You're Told. One million douche bags can't be wrong? "When did punk rock become so safe?" You'll excuse me if I laugh in your face as I itemize your receipts and PowerPoint your balance sheets. I hear this year's Vans Warped Tour is "going green!" I guess they heard that money grows on trees. Hope they ship all those ****ty bands overseas like they did the factories. Music's power to describe, compel, renew... It's all a distant second to the offers you can't refuse. Anyone remember when we used to believe that music was a sacred place and not some ****ing bank machine? Not something you just bought and sold? How could we have been so naive? Well, I think when all is said and done, just cause we were young doesn't mean we were wrong. And I'll rock back and forth on this two-bit hobbyhorse 'til she splinters and gives way. I'll tend the flowers by her grave. And whisper her name. If anyone out there understands can I please see a show of hands just so I know I'm not insane? Ever get the feeling you've been played? Well, that's rock for sustainable capitalism and you know, we may face a scorched and lifeless earth, but they're accountable to their shareholders first. That's how the world works.

NOFX - One Celled Creature

[Melvin]
Life on a mattress in a robe,
in a room full of emptiness

[Fat Mike]
Knowledge has much better uses than self-pitty and superiority

[Melvin]
Maybe you are or could be the next Hoffman, Mahatma, or Chomsky
But no one will ever know
A sum of your parts are not gonna change any hearts
not with hate in your eyes

[Fat Mike]
In order to lead by example you have to show a path to a better world,
not a cell


Propagandhi - 1, NOFX - 0

I like both bands, but when it comes to lyrical content of the 2 songs.. well, come on haha. The whole first half of Prop's song rips NOFX and 'Seperation of Church and Skate' apart.

[AIRIC]

No because I think PCL is better.

[FauxApathy]

That's funny. That Propaghandi song could have easily been a Nofx song.

They try to make a song ripping on Nofx, and they make a song in which the lyrics are similar to many, many nofx songs.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

That's funny. That Propaghandi song could have easily been a Nofx song.

They try to make a song ripping on Nofx, and they make a song in which the lyrics are similar to many, many nofx songs.

Well at the begining it kinda is, but NOFX could never write songs like Prop. Even tho I dont agree w/ a lot of what prop says, they express themselves in a pretty good way lyrically. NOFX isnt as good at political songs lyrically.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Propagandhi - 1, NOFX - 0

I like both bands, but when it comes to lyrical content of the 2 songs.. well, come on haha. The whole first half of Prop's song rips NOFX and 'Seperation of Church and Skate' apart.

I think that One Celled Creature is better than Rock For.... but they are both good songs, and they are both great bands.

They say opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

[Gnarmageddon]

Propagandhi - 1, NOFX - 0

I like both bands, but when it comes to lyrical content of the 2 songs.. well, come on haha. The whole first half of Prop's song rips NOFX and 'Seperation of Church and Skate' apart.
Try listening to The Decline.

[Drop The Baby]

Try listening to The Decline.

In that context.....

Seperation Of Church And Skate is a blinding song.

[<---NoFX--->]

Wern't Propagandhi on Fat? Maybe they still are? I don't know, but if they were then it would be stupid to slate it

[TakeWarning]

Wern't Propagandhi on Fat? Maybe they still are? I don't know, but if they were then it would be stupid to slate it

Yeah, I don't get why Fat Mike doesn't just drop them from his record label if he dislikes them so much.

I guess it's probably because they sell alot of records.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Fat signs one record deals. I've got a feeling they won't be re signing Propagandhi. I don't think Prop. even wants to be on Fat.

[<---NoFX--->]

Fat signs one record deals. I've got a feeling they won't be re signing Propagandhi. I don't think Prop. even wants to be on Fat.

Then why not leave? I don't see how they can slate Mike, who is a good guy anyway and the label that they are on. It's hipocritical

[holy_roller99]

it is one of my dreams to work at epitaph or fat most likely at west beach as a recording techinician.

[Weezerfan_returns]

it is one of my dreams to work at fat
It is one of my dreams.... to BE fat.

Then why not leave? I don't see how they can slate Mike, who is a good guy anyway and the label that they are on. It's hipocritical
Like I said... they signed a one record deal (PCL) and now they will leave. You can't call them out for this... unless of course their next record comes out on Fat.

[<---NoFX--->]

I take your point, although I think that it's unfair on Mike and NoFX as Fat have hooked them up with a deal

[Weezerfan_returns]

hooked them up? Fuc'k, any label in their right minds would sign Propagandhi.

[<---NoFX--->]

Perhaps in your opinion, they're pretty average in my eyes. PCL is an ok album

[Weezerfan_returns]

Yeah, but the three albums before that were badass. Even PCL was a decent album, just not as good as Prop's other stuff.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Propagandhi is a pretty big name, having them on your label is only going to help.

[Drop The Baby]

They're good, but Fat still took them on. It seems to me that it wouldn't have been a great deal on Fat's part to take on a band that don't tour and release albums every five years if they were purely into money.

And it seems to me that all the talk of Propagandhi's trouble with Fat has sprung up really quickly after the release of PCL, despite releasing things on Fat over a number of years

[<---NoFX--->]

They are a pretty big name band. But what it really comes down to is

NoFX > Propagandhi

[Weezerfan_returns]

On the back of Less Talk, More Rock, it says somethign like "so what if we're signed to Fat Wreck Chords" and from what I understand, Propagandhi and Fat have been having trouble ever since TETA.

[<---NoFX--->]

They're good, but Fat still took them on. It seems to me that it wouldn't have been a great deal on Fat's part to take on a band that don't tour and release albums every five years if they were purely into money.

And it seems to me that all the talk of Propagandhi's trouble with Fat has sprung up really quickly after the release of PCL, despite releasing things on Fat over a number of years

The first song I heard by Propagandhi was Back To The Motor League and I got that MP3 off the Fat site, I was pretty sure the album that was released on was also on Fat otherwise why would the MP3 be on there

[Weezerfan_returns]

Yeah it was on TETA..... what is your point?

[Drop The Baby]

On the back of Less Talk, More Rock, it says somethign like "so what if we're signed to Fat Wreck Chords" and from what I understand, Propagandhi and Fat have been having trouble ever since TETA.

Which proves that to an extent <--NOFX--> was right to say they were being a bit hypocritical for remaining on the label they appear to have sucg problemns with.


And, as was brilliantly said above: NOFX > Propagandhi

[<---NoFX--->]

So they've had two releases on Fat and you said that their 'beef' started after TETA so why go back if they have a problem with the label, especially if it started before their most recent album

[<---NoFX--->]

Which proves that to an extent <--NOFX--> was right to say they were being a bit hypocritical for remaining on the label they appear to have sucg problemns with.


And, as was brilliantly said above: NOFX > Propagandhi

Thank you

[Weezerfan_returns]

Because I don't think they've had a big problem with Fat until now. I think things have just escalated.

[Drop The Baby]

Well to be honest none of us will ever know until one of the parties makes a statement or something. We just guessing and that's getting no where to be honest.

La la ala alalala ala shs

[Weezerfan_returns]

True. I think propagandhi are being dumbasses.

Fat treats their bands really well, and is pretty damn independent. At the same time, they have a lot of great resources.

Man, i wish my band was on Fat.

[<---NoFX--->]

You're band is good, I check them out the other day




















The Decline has just come on!!!

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Try listening to The Decline.

I've heard it too many times, and muscially its great, I never said they werent. That song is lyrically pretty good too, but that's just one song, even tho its long as hell. Overall, I believe Prop gets their politcal point across better than NOFX...

[AIRIC]

Propagandhi ain't nothin' to **** wit.

[Weezerfan_returns]

You're band is good, I check them out the other day


thanks dude. :thumb:

http://www.purevolume.com/sorryaboutyourcouch

[Weezerfan_returns]

Propagandhi ain't nothin' to **** wit.
123.

[droptheworld]

http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/radio/

go listen to the new podcast and get chris' response to nofx's song.

To clear things up, the feud started when Rock Against Bush first came out when Fat Mike asked Propagandhi to edit their liner notes for Bull**** Politicians because it could offend George Soros, a scumbag who donates to moveon.org. Propagandhi refused to be censored so they pulled themselves from the project, plus they didn't feel right just bashing bush, because they are quite aware that bush isn't to blame. America didn't just get bad. we've been a fu cked up country for hundreds of years! Nofx failed to see that voting wasn't going to change the status quo, and wow, would you look at that! propagandhi was proven right!

So there you go, that's how it started. They remained friends through it but differed politically, then fat mike got more involved with the democratic party, also saying stupid things like, "kerry is a cool guy, he plays guitar and snowboards" propagandhi's response, "Tell that to the people in iraq who are going to get bombed by kerry if he's president" (remember, kerry wanted to increase military presence.

so propagandhi writes rock for sustainable capitalism. the lyrics were posted here, but also read the liner notes, there's more cutting words in it. Obviously propagandhi's lyrics were deep and meaningful. One-celled creature is a bitchy whiny attempt to get back at propagandhi

But here lies the paradox. If it weren't for propagandhi, there would be no politically motivated, vegetarian nofx. Nofx admits this all the time. FAt mike says he listened to too much propagandhi. Propagandhi changed my life, so fat mike has to shut up when he tries to insinuate that propagandhi doesn't spark change.

for the record. PCL blows apart wolves in wolves clothing. I've been a fan of both bands for nearly 15 years. Propagandhi is better, sorry. Nofx has a lot more fun and catchy songs, but they don't amount to the quality in content that propagandhi puts out.

jord is the greatest punk drummer period. listen to last months podcast on g7 and you'll hear him rip erik's boring blast beat that he's been using for 20 years. good stuff

propagandhi for life! Of course The Decline too ;

[Rise Me Up]

I bought Wolves in Wolve's clothing today.

[AIRIC]

Hundreds of years?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Judging from what droptheworld said, it sounds like Fat Mike was being dumb however, the song Rock For Sustainable Capitalism sounded pretty bitchy and ironic that its on an album released on Fat.

I dunno, but its getting to the point that all Nofx want or wanted to do is have a pop at Bush. I dont think they really do that anymore do they?

[droptheworld]

Hundreds of years?
yes hundreds of years, let's not forget about the slaves and indians. If you're going to use the weakerthans as your avatar, I'd hope you'd know this. Read Zinn, Chomsky and Ward Churchill, fat mike reads them all, he even knows.

Fat Mike and Chris go nearly 20 years back so that's why propagandhi stayed with fat wreck. They've always considered fat to be an indie label. They differed politcally but remained friends, now that scenario is changing. Listen to the G7 podcast. Last month they played the marxist brothers which was another cheap stab at propagandhi (which is addressed in this months podcast at G7 Radio). For the uninformed: G7 is the label started by Chris and Jorde of Propagandhi.

[Rise Me Up]

I'm pretty sure 60% (Reprise) is too.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/radio/

go listen to the new podcast and get chris' response to nofx's song.

To clear things up, the feud started when Rock Against Bush first came out when Fat Mike asked Propagandhi to edit their liner notes for Bull**** Politicians because it could offend George Soros, a scumbag who donates to moveon.org. Propagandhi refused to be censored so they pulled themselves from the project, plus they didn't feel right just bashing bush, because they are quite aware that bush isn't to blame. America didn't just get bad. we've been a fu cked up country for hundreds of years! Nofx failed to see that voting wasn't going to change the status quo, and wow, would you look at that! propagandhi was proven right!

So there you go, that's how it started. They remained friends through it but differed politically, then fat mike got more involved with the democratic party, also saying stupid things like, "kerry is a cool guy, he plays guitar and snowboards" propagandhi's response, "Tell that to the people in iraq who are going to get bombed by kerry if he's president" (remember, kerry wanted to increase military presence.

so propagandhi writes rock for sustainable capitalism. the lyrics were posted here, but also read the liner notes, there's more cutting words in it. Obviously propagandhi's lyrics were deep and meaningful. One-celled creature is a bitchy whiny attempt to get back at propagandhi
But here lies the paradox. If it weren't for propagandhi, there would be no politically motivated, vegetarian nofx. Nofx admits this all the time. FAt mike says he listened to too much propagandhi. Propagandhi changed my life, so fat mike has to shut up when he tries to insinuate that propagandhi doesn't spark change.

for the record. PCL blows apart wolves in wolves clothing. I've been a fan of both bands for nearly 15 years. Propagandhi is better, sorry. Nofx has a lot more fun and catchy songs, but they don't amount to the quality in content that propagandhi puts out.

jord is the greatest punk drummer period. listen to last months podcast on g7 and you'll hear him rip erik's boring blast beat that he's been using for 20 years. good stuff

propagandhi for life! Of course The Decline too ;

I agree w/ everything you just siad, and especially the bold stuff.

[<---NoFX--->]

http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/radio/

go listen to the new podcast and get chris' response to nofx's song.

To clear things up, the feud started when Rock Against Bush first came out when Fat Mike asked Propagandhi to edit their liner notes for Bull**** Politicians because it could offend George Soros, a scumbag who donates to moveon.org. Propagandhi refused to be censored so they pulled themselves from the project, plus they didn't feel right just bashing bush, because they are quite aware that bush isn't to blame. America didn't just get bad. we've been a fu cked up country for hundreds of years! Nofx failed to see that voting wasn't going to change the status quo, and wow, would you look at that! propagandhi was proven right!

So there you go, that's how it started. They remained friends through it but differed politically, then fat mike got more involved with the democratic party, also saying stupid things like, "kerry is a cool guy, he plays guitar and snowboards" propagandhi's response, "Tell that to the people in iraq who are going to get bombed by kerry if he's president" (remember, kerry wanted to increase military presence.

so propagandhi writes rock for sustainable capitalism. the lyrics were posted here, but also read the liner notes, there's more cutting words in it. Obviously propagandhi's lyrics were deep and meaningful. One-celled creature is a bitchy whiny attempt to get back at propagandhi

But here lies the paradox. If it weren't for propagandhi, there would be no politically motivated, vegetarian nofx. Nofx admits this all the time. FAt mike says he listened to too much propagandhi. Propagandhi changed my life, so fat mike has to shut up when he tries to insinuate that propagandhi doesn't spark change.

for the record. PCL blows apart wolves in wolves clothing. I've been a fan of both bands for nearly 15 years. Propagandhi is better, sorry. Nofx has a lot more fun and catchy songs, but they don't amount to the quality in content that propagandhi puts out.

jord is the greatest punk drummer period. listen to last months podcast on g7 and you'll hear him rip erik's boring blast beat that he's been using for 20 years. good stuff

propagandhi for life! Of course The Decline too ;

Thanks, that cleared it up for me. I still rate NoFX above Propagandhi any day of the week though :naughty:

[Brain Toad]

Both bands are kind of boring

/trollish spam

[Weezerfan_returns]

Propagandhi and NOFX boring?

As with the whole feud thing, I think that Propagandhi might have a good point, but they also have a shitty attitude.

I'm tired of talking about this, I love both bands.

[Drop The Baby]

As with the whole feud thing, I think that Propagandhi might have a good point, but they also have a shitty attitude.



12345

[Weezerfan_returns]

12345
666 :eek:

I still think the new nofx album is aces.

Can anyone pick a favorite?

[AIRIC]

Ribbed

[secret 77]

ribbed is my favorite nofx album too.

[Weezerfan_returns]

can we put a little poll up in dis bitch?

[AIRIC]

Nope.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

The latest podcast from g7 is fkin hilarious. They are making fun of One-celled Ceature saying its the greatest lyrical song, and whoever it is about is a dick hahaha. They play the song and it fkin sucks hahaha. You can check out the podcast here: http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/radio/

[droptheworld]

thanks for reposting the link for me. Also read the G7 blogs, there is some dialogue about the "fued" between the two bands.

[DBoons Ghost]

That profile I actually enjoyed reading. Good job!

NOFX sucks though. Fat Mike should learn how to shut up and play. I've seen them too many times, and every time after 98, he refuses to shut up.

Politics and slapstick bands don't mix.

[<---NoFX--->]

They do talk alot on stage and although it's funny it uses up valuable set time

[AIRIC]

Their live sets taht I've heard are hilarious.

They seem real tight too.

[<---NoFX--->]

I really want to see The Decline live. I thought they were going to do it at Reading festival last year but I was let down, they started talking about it and everthing....

[DBoons Ghost]

Yeah they are really tight and excellent live, and most of their jib is kinda funny, but Fat Mike is no role model for kids. Not at all.

Now he's rich off punk he can talk crap? That's not how it works.

[<---NoFX--->]

Do you ever make a bad point?

[AIRIC]

In his younger days I'm sure.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Yeah they are really tight and excellent live, and most of their jib is kinda funny, but Fat Mike is no role model for kids. Not at all.

Now he's rich off punk he can talk crap? That's not how it works.

He's in a band who puts out a lot of good records. Their live show is great (The Decline live was the best thing i've ever seen). And if he's rich it's because he has been making music/running a great label for a long time.

Fat puts out great records, and treats the bands well.

I don't agree with some of his political moves, but other than that, i think he's a pretty cool guy.

[food3416]

NOFX kicks ***

[ThePassionofTheKaseyPart2]

why should fat mike's success dictate what he's allowed to have opinions on?

[TakeWarning]

The Decline live would be amazing, but the word on the street is that they only play it on really special occasions.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

The Decline live would be amazing, but the word on the street is that they only play it on really special occasions.

Their last tour, they played it in every city they played. Wasn't it called the Decline tour or something? Well, if you didn't get to see them play it on this recent tour, you might not get the chance...

[Weezerfan_returns]

The Decline live would be amazing, but the word on the street is that they only play it on really special occasions.
I saw it. It was a religious experience..... hands down the best thing i've ever seen live.

why should fat mike's success dictate what he's allowed to have opinions on?
123 ....Especially since he's really done a lot to contribute to the scene that gave him his success.

[Pint of stella]

NOFX are alright. I wouldn't go crazy over them though. Their best song is probably Bob. Is it me or does Fat Mike sound like Eric Cartman of South Park?

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

I downloaded WIWC and it sounds like every other NOFX album released since the late 90s.

[yourstruly]

Is that a bad thing?

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Is that a bad thing?

except for the Decline, yes.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I'd love to see The Decline live, such a good song. I think the best part of it is the trombone riff and the guitar does it, at the end. So cool.

Just going back to Propaghandi for sec, whats their best (or one of their best) albums? I wanna check out some of their stuff as I don't really know but a lot of people say they're good. Where should I start? Or just pick any random one?

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

I'd love to see The Decline live, such a good song. I think the best part of it is the trombone riff and the guitar does it, at the end. So cool.

Just going back to Propaghandi for sec, whats their best (or one of their best) albums? I wanna check out some of their stuff as I don't really know but a lot of people say they're good. Where should I start? Or just pick any random one?

If you like the funny-pop-punk/punk stuff more like NOFX, get How To Clean Everything. If you like faster punk stuff, get Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes.

[AIRIC]

Less Talk, More Rock >

[Weezerfan_returns]

Just going back to Propaghandi for sec, whats their best (or one of their best) albums? I wanna check out some of their stuff as I don't really know but a lot of people say they're good. Where should I start? Or just pick any random one?

I would get any of them, other than Potemkin City Limits. On each album they change a lot, so for instance, How To Clean Everything doesn't sound anything like Today's Empires.

[Henrik]

Is the decline live available anywhere on film?

It is without doubt Nofx's best work ever.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

If you like the funny-pop-punk/punk stuff more like NOFX, get How To Clean Everything. If you like faster punk stuff, get Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes.

I would get any of them, other than Potemkin City Limits. On each album they change a lot, so for instance, How To Clean Everything doesn't sound anything like Today's Empires.

Thanks for the input guys, its helped me out :chug: I'll probs try and get 'Todays Empires, Tomorrows Ashes' first, sounds like my kinda thing.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Just listened to 'Wolves In Wolves Clothing' and I think its pretty darn good. 'Instant Crassic' makes me laugh....well, the first time I heard it anyway.

The only song I don't really like is 'You Will Lose Faith' though it is good in places.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Just listened to 'Wolves In Wolves Clothing' and I think its pretty darn good. 'Instant Crassic' makes me laugh....well, the first time I heard it anyway.

The only song I don't really like is 'You Will Lose Faith' though it is good in places. You Will Lose Faith is probably my favorite song on that album.

Thanks for the input guys, its helped me out :chug: I'll probs try and get 'Todays Empires, Tomorrows Ashes' first, sounds like my kinda thing.
If you get Empires, and don't really like it, you should def. check out one of their first two albums, since they're so different.

[DBoons Ghost]

Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.

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[Kickflip_Burrito]

You Will Lose Faith is probably my favorite song on that album.
Hmm nah, I much prefer USA-Holes, Seeing Double at The Triple Rock, Encantado en Espanol and Benny Got Blowed Up. 60% is pretty cool too.

[holy_roller99]

Seeing Double at the Triple Rock is my favourite song and second would have to be The man i Killed

[HAIL TRUE BLINK 182]

i listen to nofx too

[Drop The Baby]

yeah, but no-one likes you

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Rofl

True Dat

[Drop The Baby]

This CD has been in my player for a over a month now

[Kickflip_Burrito]

This CD has been in my player for a over a month now
Which one? Wolves In Wolves Clothing?

[Brain Toad]

Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.

I would be comfoy with them if they just shut up :p

[RandyfromPennywise]

Nice coverup.

I don't get it. Anyway, I'm seeing triple at the double rock.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.
Just read this.

Yeah fair points really all around, as is generally the way with whatever you post DBoon. For me personally though, I don't really involve myself in Punk culture at all, I merely listen to a few 'Punk' bands. Probably living on the other side of the world and not being a teenager helps to avoid any bullsh*t or other agendas bands involve themselves in.

[TakeWarning]

I think the title track of the album blows the other songs out of the water.

[Drop The Baby]

i think there's a lot better tracks than the title track, although it is a great song.

[<---NoFX--->]

After much deliberation I think I preferred the EP 'Never Trust A Hippie' they released before the album... ouch

[Kickflip_Burrito]

http://www.myspace.com/thelist

NOFX live videos there ^^

[Kickflip_Burrito]

bump

[kaseytheawesome]

Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.
nofx didn't start off as a slapstick band. they've had political songs as well as joke songs from the very beginning.

I agree that their songs seem far too preachy now, and they did it earlier too (namely liberal animation). But they've always been politically vocal.
They shouldn't have to change that just because a large part of his fan base is now younger teens.

I can't think of any songs in which he is trying to relate to the plights of the common folk.


My very favorite part in the decline is near the end, before the trumpets come in, when it's the guitar riff with the same drum beat over and over, and then the cymbals are played and there's the crowd noise.

[Anarcho Poser]

I was just lookin' at some old pictures. Fat Mike used to be a skinny mutha****a.

[Drop The Baby]

yeah it's true

[RandyfromPennywise]

yeah it's true
But he was "fat" for a little while and during this time he gained the prefix "Fat", which has stuck ever since, despite him not being obese or particularly overweight for a long time.

[Drop The Baby]

He got the nickname 'Fat' during the NOFX tour he went on after attending college. He said that while he was still not particularly fat, the fact that he had still put a lot of weight on meant that people began calling him by this nickname.