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thebigyin
07-02-2005, 04:20 PM
Saw Batman Begins on the 2nd day out in UK cinemas. Found it to be the best Batman movie since the original 1989 effort. One Thing annoyed me a little, though: I don't think Bale was a very good choice for Wayne/Batman. It's nothing to do with his acting skills, I just didn't think he looked "right" in the part.
Thoughts please. :cool:
Scythe404
07-02-2005, 04:29 PM
Bale was perfect for Wayne/Batman. He had the conflict, fierceness and intensity. Although i didn't like how he did Playboy Wayne, the true Bruce Wayne, marred and galvanized by his parents death, and later motivated into powerful action by the same tragedy, was done to crystal clear perfection. My only other complaint is that when he's in the bat costume he sounds like he needs a losenge.
thebigyin
07-02-2005, 04:32 PM
Although i didn't like how he did Playboy Wayne, the true Bruce Wayne. My only other complaint is that when he's in the bat costume he sounds like he needs a losenge.
Yeah, I think I know what you mean there.
Love that last comment by the way :lol: and I agree..... although I suppose it's just to disguise his voice, helping to keep his identity under wraps (or perhaps a black costume).
Ramsey
07-02-2005, 04:46 PM
I thought it owned. There is absoluetly nothing wrong with that film. Period.
thebigyin
07-02-2005, 04:52 PM
Only one other gripe I can think of, apart from my doubt of Wayne's casting.
The soundtrack.
Don't get me wrong, it fitted the film PERFECTLY. It slipped into the scenes without you really noticing it, which is always good: this usually means it fits the scene pretty well. I think Hanz Zimmer did a great job here. Check out "Broken Arrow" (1996 - John Travolta, Christian Slater) as well, the baritone guitar-driven main theme (played by Duane Eddy, nonetheless) for more of Hanz.
However, I am a great lover of the original 1989 Danny Elfman Batman Theme. It was not used at all in Batman Begins...... this disappointed me :(
Roo_bass
07-02-2005, 04:53 PM
I saw it today and thought it was awesome.
thebigyin
07-02-2005, 04:54 PM
I saw it today and thought it was awesome.
Yep, I agree.
Bloody brilliant.
secret agent man
07-02-2005, 05:58 PM
thought it was a bit wierd the way his voice changed when he put on the bat suit. sounded like he smoked 50 a day :P
Micheal Cane was a legend in that film
infeef
07-02-2005, 06:07 PM
i thought he was great for batman, he did a real good job. and the movie was great, but they needed to have more seens for scarecrow.
MAthiAS
07-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah it was an awesome movie with awesome acting. Should raise the bar for comic book movies... I doubt Fantastic 4 will come close.
EightMilesHigh
07-02-2005, 07:30 PM
This movie was awesome. Best film I've seen in the theaters since Episode III.
Jay S. Bach
07-02-2005, 09:40 PM
This movie ruled, where War of the Worlds sucked! :lol:
Yeah, they surprised me with this one. I would definitely recommend this film out to others. It's got a lot of substance and depth to it, yet it doesn't take itself too seriously. Yep, a very well-layered movie that can be watched many times. ;)
Scythe404
07-02-2005, 09:44 PM
I think this might even be the first Comic Book Adaptation to pierce the snotty Academy Awards. This has already gone on a lot of 2005 Top Ten Lists, and judging by what's coming out later this year it very well may stay there. I say, if Lord of the Rings can win Best Picture, this film at least has a shot for nominations. I certainly hope so. I'd also like to see some acting awards.
It's a shame the supporting performances (Liam Neeson and Cilian Murphy's) didn't have more screen time, as they were so excellent, had they had more time, they may have even gathered some nominations themselves.
Jay S. Bach
07-02-2005, 09:47 PM
What's the name of the actor who played Scarecrow? Wasn't he the cat in "28 Days Later"? He had a real sleazy James Woods/James Spader thing going on that made him perfect for the part in Batman.
Scythe404
07-02-2005, 09:59 PM
Cilian Murphy. And yes, he did star in '28 Days Later.'
badtaste
07-02-2005, 11:04 PM
Watch 'The machinist' and you will think Bale is perfect for anything.
thebigyin
07-03-2005, 07:56 AM
Yeah it was an awesome movie with awesome acting. Should raise the bar for comic book movies... I doubt Fantastic 4 will come close.
I would agree there again. Fantastic 4 looks kinda crap to me :(
thebigyin
07-03-2005, 07:58 AM
Watch 'The machinist' and you will think Bale is perfect for anything.
I'll keep that in mind.
Pastorius
07-04-2005, 07:26 PM
Woah, I usually agree with you guys, but for once I don't. I found this to be a terrible movie.
My main gripe with the movie was the sheer impossibility of it. If you've got a giant microwave gun that vaporises all water, WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THE PEOPLE'S BLOOD (90% water) VAPORISE? It just seemed to be a huge inaccuracy that really drained the movie. Also, how did he become a master ninja? Not explained. Why did he have a super duper angular muscle car in this one, yet seems to have downgraded in the other films? I know they were made earlier, but at least try to get some continuity here! Why, when everyone is under panic inducing hallucinogenic drugs, would you fly over them in the form of a bat? Where did the mask guy get his horse from?
There were a ton of others that I noticed in the cinema, but I've forgotten most now.
I just thought it was a bad movie.
Kickflip_Burrito
07-04-2005, 07:59 PM
Batman Begins was awesome, my only complaint was that the Scarecrow didn't have a major villian role, but it was Bruce Wayne's former mentor, played by Liam Nesson, forgot the name. Every Batman movie had a villain character as the main bad guy (e.g. The Joker, Penguin, Two-Face, etc). Scarecrow shud've had a bigger role.
Great film nonetheless.
Kithkin
07-04-2005, 10:14 PM
My main gripe with the movie was the sheer impossibility of it.
Hi. Comic book movie. Bye:wave:
AntiPoliceAggro
07-05-2005, 02:49 AM
My main gripe with the movie was the sheer impossibility of it. If you've got a giant microwave gun that vaporises all water, WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THE PEOPLE'S BLOOD (90% water) VAPORISE?
i was going to post this, but you beat me to it.
note: possibly the water needed to be encased in metal to be effected as such. you'll note that while in the ship, all the piping burst, yet the sea surrounding the vessel was uneffected- much as the water mains burst, and yet the persons directly in the path of the train car did not.
ps. Cilian Murphy did a FLAWLESS Crane. Ab-so-friggin-omg- spot-on.
good show.
This is the best flm I've seen in quite some time, and I just finished re-watching Apocalypse Now! (note: Batman fanboy)
Kickflip_Burrito: his name was Ra'as Al Gul. speaking of wich... what of scarecrow, whom was left to(presumably) roam the narrows, incapacitated as he may have been, on horseback? and Ra'as? Couldn't he be revived using the Lazarus Pit? oMg sequel?!
Solar
07-05-2005, 03:01 AM
Pastorius, why do you bother going to the cinema if you're not going to pay attention to what happens?
If you've got a giant microwave gun that vaporises all water, WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THE PEOPLE'S BLOOD (90% water) VAPORISE?
It was explained that the vaporiser only vaporised water in the form of water. If it vaporised everything containing water alot more than the humans would've been vaporised as most things to some extent contain water.
Also, how did he become a master ninja?
Remember at the start when he does al lthat training in the mountains? Did you even watch the movie?
Why did he have a super duper angular muscle car in this one, yet seems to have downgraded in the other films?
As far as we know, the super-duper angular muscle car might be destroyed at the start of the next movie (considering the continue the franchise) and he might downgrade to something more compact. Don't make assumptions when you haven't seen what's coming.
Why, when everyone is under panic inducing hallucinogenic drugs, would you fly over them in the form of a bat?
I'm pretty sure it was batmans intentions to stop the vaporiser before he the drug could be turned into an inhalent. Also, how else was he supposed to fly without his specially made batwings?
Where did the mask guy get his horse from?
You know the police guys on horses they send to get the escaped mentals, I'm pretty sure scarecrow just attacked one of them and took the horse.
EightMilesHigh
07-05-2005, 03:02 AM
i was going to post this, but you beat me to it.
note: possibly the water needed to be encased in metal to be effected as such. you'll note that while in the ship, all the piping burst, yet the sea surrounding the vessel was uneffected- much as the water mains burst, and yet the persons directly in the path of the train car did not.
ps. Cilian Murphy did a FLAWLESS Crane. Ab-so-friggin-omg- spot-on.
good show.
This is the best flm I've seen in quite some time, and I just finished re-watching Apocalypse Now! (note: Batman fanboy)
Kickflip_Burrito: his name was Ra'as Al Gul. speaking of wich... what of scarecrow, whom was left to(presumably) roam the narrows, incapacitated as he may have been, on horseback? and Ra'as? Couldn't he be revived using the Lazarus Pit? oMg sequel?!
I don't want a sequel to this, because there's maybe a 1% chance it'll live up to this one.
chorbalan
07-05-2005, 03:04 AM
Why the hell was the batmobille so huge. I understand it shouldn't look like the original, but they wen't overboard. Also was the guy who played scarecrow the same guy who plays Clark Kent in Smallville because they really look alike.
Ducky_72
07-05-2005, 04:16 AM
Why did he have a super duper angular muscle car in this one, yet seems to have downgraded in the other films? I know they were made earlier, but at least try to get some continuity here!
As stated many times before, in many Batman Begins threads, this movie has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER FOUR. It is a completely different franchise, not a prequel but a new beggining. There should be no continuity. This film will have it's own sequels, all different from the previous franchise.
Ducky_72
07-05-2005, 04:19 AM
Why the hell was the batmobille so huge.
Because it was developed for the military. Soldiers don't usually drive around battlefields in sports cars.
Also was the guy who played scarecrow the same guy who plays Clark Kent in Smallville because they really look alike.
No.
mamajamma
07-05-2005, 04:49 AM
Man, what a great movie. I like that they left the end with the joker causing trouble, because man, I love the joker. And you know, prequal to batman #1 and all that.
badtaste
07-05-2005, 07:38 AM
Just watched it today.
After watching it, I reckon that this new Batman franchise should be more dramatic, rather than action packed. Even in the comics, Batman is more about the chemistry between hero and villain, rather than the action sequences.
Some things that I didn't like about it:
- Katie Holmes. Go back to Dawson's Creek, woman.
- The usage of Ra's al ghul (spelling?) as a minor character. In the comics, I think he's supposed to be an ultra badass.
- Once again, this movie was sorta based around a 'Hero prevents city from blowing up' sort of storyline.
That's about it.
thebigyin
07-05-2005, 07:53 AM
Hi. Comic book movie. Bye:wave:
Haha..... yep, I'd have to say the same. I must admit, I'm the kinda guy who often sits and nitpicks these kinda "mistakes" in movies, but after all, it is a comic book movie. (Shrugs)
thebigyin
07-05-2005, 07:54 AM
As stated many times before, in many Batman Begins threads, this movie has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER FOUR. It is a completely different franchise, not a prequel but a new beggining. There should be no continuity. This film will have it's own sequels, all different from the previous franchise.
......then why did its ending have a glaringly obvious lead into the 1989 "Batman"?
ModestBass
07-05-2005, 11:05 AM
scarecrow ruled, great movie
+3kk!
07-05-2005, 11:26 AM
......then why did its ending have a glaringly obvious lead into the 1989 "Batman"?
but the whole movie doesnt, in the 1989 batman joker killed wayne's parents.....and it cannot relate to this movie in most ways. common sense should tell anyone that the both movies doesnt relate
Ducky_72
07-05-2005, 01:13 PM
......then why did its ending have a glaringly obvious lead into the 1989 "Batman"?
Then why are they making a sequel to Batman Begins featuring the Joker as the main villain?
Mister_Che
07-05-2005, 01:32 PM
......then why did its ending have a glaringly obvious lead into the 1989 "Batman"?
Come one now, it is NOT a glaringly obvious lead in. These two movies have nothing to do with each other and as stated, are two different franchises. So they chose the Joker, of course they would. The Joker is Batmans greatest enemy. Why wouldn't they choose him?
Ill Mitch
07-05-2005, 01:47 PM
I thought it was fantastic. I own all four batman movies and I'd rank this one as second, only behind the very first becasue Jack Nicholson is fantastic. My only complaint was that the batmobile was too hummer-like. It didn't really look much like the original. It was more like the baby of the original batmobile and a hummer.
Mister_Che
07-05-2005, 01:56 PM
I thought it was fantastic. I own all four batman movies and I'd rank this one as second, only behind the very first becasue Jack Nicholson is fantastic. My only complaint was that the batmobile was too hummer-like. It didn't really look much like the original. It was more like the baby of the original batmobile and a hummer.
Well this being Batmans early times, there is still room for improvement on the Batmobile. Speaking of which, I wish they had included Batmans original mechanic. A mute guy that built his batmobile. Morgan Freeman did a great job though.
EightMilesHigh
07-05-2005, 02:22 PM
A mute guy that built his batmobile. Morgan Freeman did a great job though.
Morgan Freeman owns.
Mister_Che
07-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Morgan Freeman owns.
Morgan Freeman > Everything
He played God for chrissakes.
Phobophile
07-05-2005, 03:18 PM
Morgan Freeman was in se7en,Nuff Said.(no that doesn't count for Brad Pitt though) Batman Begins pwns.I never liked comic books or had interest in comic book movies but I got lead to this one in a last-second date choice and I thought it was awesome,I will def see the sequel.
Pastorius
07-05-2005, 03:59 PM
But if you're taking that approach, the water in the mains wasn't in the form of water, it was in the form of aqeous drug.
Kithkin
07-05-2005, 07:13 PM
Then why are they making a sequel to Batman Begins featuring the Joker as the main villain?
Because they've run out of big batman villians and have to start over.
In the comics and animated series, how many times did Batman fight the Joker?
They need to stop killing off the bad guys at the end of comic book movies.
Werny
07-05-2005, 10:04 PM
I think it's easily the greatest comic book movie ever, including perhaps The Crow.
But I think, also, that they needed a scene with, I dunno, his Mum getting him dressed for school or having a talk to him. Because she was his Mum, yet when she died it was like "meh", and we're not feeling sad for his parents' death, we're feeling sad for his dad's death.
And everyone thinks his voice as Batman was cheesy or not done very well, I think it was awesome, very badass and he obviously put it on to sound scary. When he says "I'M NOT A COP!!" is probably the best line in the movie.
The Batmobile (which I think is badass) scene was one of the greatest ever, it's very rare for me to actually get excited in an action scene.
And Cillian Murphy... *gasp* absolutely perfection. When he's panicking because Batman's coming... awesome. And *spoiler* Liam Neeson was awesome as Ra'as, he had this look of an insane person that knows what they're doing, like Hannibal Lecter to a lesser extent.
Perfect, PERFECT movie, 10/10 all around.
P.S honourable mention to the extremely low use of CGI.
Against Miik!
07-05-2005, 10:08 PM
Most of the mainstream comic book movies are pretty bad. I have yet to see a good comic book converted to a movie, with the exception of Spawn and Sin City. I have minimal interest in seeing it.
Werny
07-05-2005, 10:15 PM
Most of the mainstream comic book movies are pretty bad. I have yet to see a good comic book converted to a movie, with the exception of Spawn and Sin City. I have minimal interest in seeing it.
Do you mean the comics are good and/or the movie?
Because Spawn is a freaking awesome comic book, but the movie, except for the AWESOME soundtrack, was pretty darn crap. Strange how it was supposed to be the "special effects movie of the year"... Jurassic Park had better CGI in 1994.
Back to Batman... about the girl seeing Scarecrow on the horse... why does everyone call it Scarecrow? It wasn't him, she was just visualising him as Scarecrow from the effects of the drug. Scarecrow was in the mental institute in a straight jacket... which reminds me, why was HE saying "Scarecrow, Scarecrow" over and over? Why would he be afraid of himself?
swift
07-05-2005, 10:18 PM
I thought this was a great movie.
Against Miik!
07-05-2005, 10:28 PM
Do you mean the comics are good and/or the movie?
Because Spawn is a freaking awesome comic book, but the movie, except for the AWESOME soundtrack, was pretty darn crap. Strange how it was supposed to be the "special effects movie of the year"... Jurassic Park had better CGI in 1994.
I mean good movies made from a comic good or bad. I enjoyed the Spawn movie.
thunderzstruck
07-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Most of the mainstream comic book movies are pretty bad. I have yet to see a good comic book converted to a movie, with the exception of Spawn and Sin City. I have minimal interest in seeing it.
spiderman?
Scythe404
07-05-2005, 11:34 PM
i was going to post this, but you beat me to it.
note: possibly the water needed to be encased in metal to be effected as such. you'll note that while in the ship, all the piping burst, yet the sea surrounding the vessel was uneffected- much as the water mains burst, and yet the persons directly in the path of the train car did not.
ps. Cilian Murphy did a FLAWLESS Crane. Ab-so-friggin-omg- spot-on.
good show.
This is the best flm I've seen in quite some time, and I just finished re-watching Apocalypse Now! (note: Batman fanboy)
Kickflip_Burrito: his name was Ra'as Al Gul. speaking of wich... what of scarecrow, whom was left to(presumably) roam the narrows, incapacitated as he may have been, on horseback? and Ra'as? Couldn't he be revived using the Lazarus Pit? oMg sequel?!
I too was wondering if Ra's would make another apperance because of that. I also wondered if we'd see Talia. :naughty:
But i doubt they'll bring him back. What i loved about Batman Begins was that it made the idea of a super hero watching out for us, destroying evil and doing the tough work, really really plausible. The way he was trained, built his weapons and alter-ego...it was frighteningly realistic for a comic book movie. Bringing something like the Lazarus Pit and countless ressurections in is dangerous territory. Best to leave it for the Batty Hardcores.
- The usage of Ra's al ghul (spelling?) as a minor character. In the comics, I think he's supposed to be an ultra badass.
He was hardly minor at all, at least in retrospect. And what little screen time Liam Neeson got was still more than enough (thanks to the fact that he is hands down, one of the best actors of our day) to establish Ra's as a complex, yet hardcore badass.
EDIT: Oh, i wanted to mention something that everyone seems to be overlooking: Tom Wilkinson. His part as Falcone was brilliant, and his talk with Bruce in that underground restaurant was without a doubt, the best single line in the movie.
ToyDolls
07-05-2005, 11:39 PM
Man, what a great movie. I like that they left the end with the joker causing trouble, because man, I love the joker. And you know, prequal to batman #1 and all that.
I hope you are really not an idiot.
Lionheart1827
07-06-2005, 12:41 AM
I just got back from seeing it and I thought it was a great movie.
I wasnt really looking forward to it, but I'm glad I ended up seeing it. I have a big feelings its gonna be a lot better than F4.
Best line in the movie imo...
Somewhat spoiler*****
"I don't have to save you."
*jumps out the back of moving train*
END SPOILER*
:thumb:
Let's Chop Cats!
07-06-2005, 01:08 AM
I saw it again tonight. The joker card is the best part of the movie.
Kithkin
07-06-2005, 10:12 AM
Most of the mainstream comic book movies are pretty bad. I have yet to see a good comic book converted to a movie, with the exception of Spawn and Sin City. I have minimal interest in seeing it.
Sin City was good. But Spawn was hardly comparable to the comic. I liked the movie, but I was a kid. I liked Blade then too.
And since when did Dardevil and Electra constitute most of the mainstream comic book movies?
stoneyardprophet
07-06-2005, 10:26 AM
The ONLY problem that I noticed with the movie was that there was no popular songs in it. I think that they should have thrown some Linkin park or green Day or SOMETHING up in there. I really liked how Bale changed his voice when he was in the bat suit. Thats something that I've always hated bout superhero movies.
+3kk!
07-06-2005, 10:28 AM
The ONLY problem that I noticed with the movie was that there was no popular songs in it. I think that they should have thrown some Linkin park or green Day or SOMETHING up in there. I really liked how Bale changed his voice when he was in the bat suit. Thats something that I've always hated bout superhero movies.
dude,that aint funny............you need help
Mister_Che
07-06-2005, 11:49 AM
The ONLY problem that I noticed with the movie was that there was no popular songs in it. I think that they should have thrown some Linkin park or green Day or SOMETHING up in there. I really liked how Bale changed his voice when he was in the bat suit. Thats something that I've always hated bout superhero movies.
:lol: <--- See that? Yeah...
Ducky_72
07-07-2005, 02:28 PM
The BEST thing about the movie was that there was no popular songs in it.
Fixed.
CrimbleVan
07-07-2005, 04:29 PM
And since when did Dardevil and Electra constitute most of the mainstream comic book movies?
*shudders at the meer mention of them* I, for one, thought Spider Man was awesome, the second one was all lovey-dovey like - but it followed the story line very well, and the first 2 batmans were great - the second one being my favorite, and i thought Batman Begins was awesome... the begining was a little slow, and it was a shame they didn use the scare crow that much, but I loved it
Werny
07-08-2005, 12:22 PM
The ONLY problem that I noticed with the movie was that there was no popular songs in it. I think that they should have thrown some Linkin park or green Day or SOMETHING up in there. I really liked how Bale changed his voice when he was in the bat suit. Thats something that I've always hated bout superhero movies.
Remember to point out that you're being sarcastic next time... or people are going to think you're serious and bag you out.
I for one enjoyed the lack of modern music, one gets sick of comic book movies fitting in cruddy modern rock as another way to pull people into the cinemas.
Bam-CKY-H.I.M.
07-08-2005, 01:30 PM
Christian Bale is the BEST Batman/Bruce Wayne. I saw this movie 4 times and I'm still not tired of it. Finally, they got Batman right!
Falcone: "What the hell are you"?
Batman:*punches thru roof of car* "I'm Batman"
Bam-CKY-H.I.M.
07-08-2005, 01:32 PM
F.Y.I.
They did have a TV trailer with Nickelback's "Someday".
Junooni
07-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Why did he have a super duper angular muscle car in this one, yet seems to have downgraded in the other films? I know they were made earlier, but at least try to get some continuity here!
i reallllly want to kick your ***.
this movie has nothing to do with the others.
Junooni
07-08-2005, 08:51 PM
Do you mean the comics are good and/or the movie?
Because Spawn is a freaking awesome comic book, but the movie, except for the AWESOME soundtrack, was pretty darn crap. Strange how it was supposed to be the "special effects movie of the year"... Jurassic Park had better CGI in 1994.
Back to Batman... about the girl seeing Scarecrow on the horse... why does everyone call it Scarecrow? It wasn't him, she was just visualising him as Scarecrow from the effects of the drug. Scarecrow was in the mental institute in a straight jacket... which reminds me, why was HE saying "Scarecrow, Scarecrow" over and over? Why would he be afraid of himself?
no. valcone is valcone, dr. crane is the scarecrow.
Werny
07-08-2005, 11:05 PM
no. valcone is valcone, dr. crane is the scarecrow.
...did you quote the wrong post?
Anyway, I don't think I made it clear that Dr. Crane was sitting in the straight jacket saying "scarecrow, scarecrow" which I didn't get.
ToyDolls
07-08-2005, 11:17 PM
You must have been ****ing your girl. All the crazies were realsed out of the mental instustion. Rae bust the scraecrow out.
thebigyin
07-12-2005, 03:09 PM
I think it's easily the greatest comic book movie ever, including perhaps The Crow.
But I think, also, that they needed a scene with, I dunno, his Mum getting him dressed for school or having a talk to him. Because she was his Mum, yet when she died it was like "meh", and we're not feeling sad for his parents' death, we're feeling sad for his dad's death.
And everyone thinks his voice as Batman was cheesy or not done very well, I think it was awesome, very badass and he obviously put it on to sound scary. When he says "I'M NOT A COP!!" is probably the best line in the movie.
The Batmobile (which I think is badass) scene was one of the greatest ever, it's very rare for me to actually get excited in an action scene.
And Cillian Murphy... *gasp* absolutely perfection. When he's panicking because Batman's coming... awesome. And *spoiler* Liam Neeson was awesome as Ra'as, he had this look of an insane person that knows what they're doing, like Hannibal Lecter to a lesser extent.
Perfect, PERFECT movie, 10/10 all around.
P.S honourable mention to the extremely low use of CGI.
Perfection is a level of quality which has always been, and always will be, unattainable in anything and everything. I should know; I'm a perfectionist :lol:
In other words, nothing is perfect. "Batman Begins" is no exception.
Mister_Che
07-12-2005, 03:15 PM
no. valcone is valcone, dr. crane is the scarecrow.
It's Falcone, not Valcone. :thumb:
Bartender
07-13-2005, 09:28 AM
...did you quote the wrong post?
Anyway, I don't think I made it clear that Dr. Crane was sitting in the straight jacket saying "scarecrow, scarecrow" which I didn't get.
I think he was referring to you saying "Scarecrow was in a mental institute in a straightjacket", because he wasn't. One of Ra's Al Ghul's men let him out earlier on.
Anyway, I just saw it a couple of days ago, and it was great. Bale makes a great Batman, and they got the perfect guy for Crane, I think.
And according to the IMDB, there are some very promising-looking names lined up as possibilities for the Joker.
JohnXDoe
07-22-2005, 04:58 PM
No ones posted here in the last ten days or so, But I just saw this film and felt a need to add my two cents worth. :p
All I can say is WOW! This is a stunning film on almost every level. I've always liked the Tim Burton Batman films, but the other two (and the other two Batman actors besides Keaton, for that matter) I felt were very subpar and lacking in spirit. The series kind of went from dark and mysterious to colorful and lite once Burton left.
Well this film changes all that. And it does so to great success. I found the story engrossing, the characters interesting and with some depth, and the plot and plot twists to be well drawn out and sensible. The SFX were great but not showy, the visual effects were believable (Gotham has never looked better) and the Batmobile is a real hoot. And Christian Bale as Batman was an inspired choice. He is, along with Keaton, perhaps the only actor thus far who should ever wear a Bat Suit.
Most of all I enjoyed the performances. When the cast was first announced I thought maybe these were take the money and run roles for the likes of Caine and Freeman and Oldman. But those three were really good! As was Neeson and Hauer (where has he been?). And I loved seen John Hurt in a small role (at least I think it was Hurt). He's been one of my favorite actors since I first saw The Elephant Man and 1984.
The real surprise for me though was Katie Holmes. Having not seen her TV show before and not having seen a movie by her either, I'm pretty unaware of her and her talent. Or lack thereof. I thought maybe she would turn in a cutesy little performance and leave it at that. But she was real good! Again, I have no reference for her abilities having never seen her work before. But she was a big part of this film, and she did a great job as a tough D.A., IMO. A real no nonsense girl. I really liked her in this. And then of course, the guy who played Scarecrow. What a creep! Fantastic.
I could go on and on about this film (already have, I'm afraid :p) but I'll just say if you haven't seen it yet, by all means do so. Even if you are not a fan in particular of Batman or the first series. Or if the last couple of films disappointed you. This changes everything. It's a 10/10 in my book, and I'm looking forward to seeing it again. Which is something I never do. So gogogogo. NOW!
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Mister_Che
07-22-2005, 05:01 PM
In all honesty, I thought Katie Holmes was completely unnecessary in this movie. Bruce does have a childhood friend they could have used, but instead they went with her. If they wanted to have a woman in the story, they should've cast someone as Selina Kyle (Catwoman).
JohnXDoe
07-22-2005, 05:08 PM
In all honesty, I thought Katie Holmes was completely unnecessary in this movie. Bruce does have a childhood friend they could have used, but instead they went with her. If they wanted to have a woman in the story, they should've cast someone as Selina Kyle (Catwoman).
Yeah, I mean I suppose they could've casted anyone. But like I said I really have no reference for her, so to my eye she did a fine job. I thought she brought an innocence and earnestness to the role that played well with and against Bale's Batman. I really enjoyed thier scenes together. And apart, for that matter. The chemistry seemed right, and I thought that helped carry the film forward.
Cyco_Vision
07-22-2005, 07:25 PM
Sin City was good. But Spawn was hardly comparable to the comic. I liked the movie, but I was a kid. I liked Blade then too.
And since when did Dardevil and Electra constitute most of the mainstream comic book movies?
"Sin City" was amazing. "Spawn" was trash. John Leguizamo as a fat clown from hell? Get ****ing real. "Blade" 1 and 2 are decent. The third is just no.
"Daredevil" and "Elektra" were both horrible.
Cyco_Vision
07-22-2005, 07:26 PM
Micheal Cane was a legend in that film
I couldn't concur more. It was a spectacular experience watching that movie.
Brrhn
07-23-2005, 01:59 PM
So much better than the original.
Junooni
07-23-2005, 02:12 PM
It's Falcone, not Valcone. :thumb:
my bad. I never looked it up, even though I've seen it 14 times. :rolleyes:
incubass
07-23-2005, 05:31 PM
Am i the only onw who thinks they killed the batmobile. this si a prequal(sp) and the batmobile is more high tech than an the first movies made.
Just sayin..
Scythe404
07-23-2005, 08:29 PM
Am i the only onw who thinks they killed the batmobile. this si a prequal(sp) and the batmobile is more high tech than an the first movies made.
Just sayin..
For the last time, to all you people out there: THIS IS NOT A PREQUEL.
This movie was made completely in spite of all the other films, and is starting its own, new storyline. It pays no heed to any of the Burton or Schumacher films, and neither will its sequel.
This is not a prequel at all.
fedroger
07-28-2005, 06:06 PM
Christain Bale is the best. Boy those Brits can act!
Bam-CKY-H.I.M.
07-29-2005, 06:37 PM
Bale is the BEST Batman ever!
thebigyin
08-03-2005, 10:29 AM
So much better than the original.
Don't talk ****e
Ducky_72
08-03-2005, 03:45 PM
Don't talk ****e
Take your own advice, BB totally owned all the previous Batman movies.
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