Black Metal

[Stormrider]

Hvis Lyset Tar Oss probably has my favorite album art on it.

By far IMO.

[RouteOne]

http://www.myspace.com/wham11

[NemesisDivina]

You guys do realize that Burzum isn't the only black metal band ever...

It seems like that is all you've been talking about. I don't listen to much Burzum anyways. I've been planning on getting into them lately.

Anyways, I am in love with classic black metal. All the sweet stuff from the 90's (Satyricon, MayheM, Immortal, Darkthrone etc.). However... lately I've been listening to some Isengard (a side project of Fenriz from Darkthrone). It's some awesome stuff. I actually just created a page for them today. I'm also really into Behemoth, although they're technically a lot more death metal than they are black metal.

If you have time check out the list I made today. I'm pretty sure it's on the home page for recently created lists.

[AA-12]

Of course Burzum isn't, but he's still my favorite BM.

Isengard is fantastic, though the vocals are lacking at times.

Welcome to the forums by the way.

[RouteOne]

Just listen to me Nemesis these guys have no idea what they're talking about.

[NemesisDivina]

Thanks for the welcome.

Yeah, the trick with Isengard is accepting the combination of the Darkthrone-style black metal and the Folk metal. However, I think Fenriz can pull off pretty much anything because well... he's Fenriz.

[Stormrider]

I've listened to Isenagrd once, and never listened to it again afterwards. :-/ ...i didn't even finish the whole album.

[AA-12]

Yeah, I love both genres, but some of the harsh vocals are annoying in Isengard.

[NemesisDivina]

They can get annoying... but I still like it.
And Stormrider... you probably didn't like it because it's so different.
People aren't used to hearing such strange blends of music, and that's perfectly okay.

[Angmar]

^Same

Filosofem is the best.

I like Aske the most Filosofem is 2nd for me. I need to check out more Isengard.

[RouteOne]

Thanks for the welcome.

Yeah, the trick with Isengard is accepting the combination of the Darkthrone-style black metal and the Folk metal. However, I think Fenriz can pull off pretty much anything because well... he's Fenriz.

I looove Isengard. A lot of people say his material gets boring after a while but I think his stuff is entertaining.

[AA-12]

Vinterskugge is one of my favorite songs.

[Stormrider]

They can get annoying... but I still like it.
And Stormrider... you probably didn't like it because it's so different.
People aren't used to hearing such strange blends of music, and that's perfectly okay.

I'm very much into black metal and blends of Folk and black metal. Isengard just didn't struck as anything more then very average.

[NemesisDivina]

Yes!
I love talking to people who actually know about good music. I'm probably the only kid at my school who even knows who Immortal is, and they're basically black metal gods.

[NemesisDivina]

Vinterskugge is one of my favorite songs.

Yeah, that song is great. That's one of the things that originally got me listening to Isengard.

[AA-12]

Yes!
I love talking to people who actually know about good music. I'm probably the only kid at my school who even knows who Immortal is, and they're basically black metal gods.

You're gonna like this forum then :) Check out the folk/viking metal thread too if you'd like.

[NemesisDivina]

I don't know. I'm not a huge fan of viking metal. I'm a black/death metal guy.

[RouteOne]

Vinterskugge is one of my favorite songs.

Oh man that song is great. I like I Kamp Med Kvitekrist more though.

[Angmar]

Viking/Folk Metal is one of my fav. metal sub genres.

[AA-12]

Same here.

[NemesisDivina]

Oh man that song is great. I like I Kamp Med Kvitekrist more though.

Hell yes. Vinterskugge and I kamp med Kvitekrist are my two favorite songs by Isengard

[Stormrider]

Viking/Folk Metal is one of my fav. metal sub genres.

Same here too.

[RouteOne]

Hell yes. Vinterskugge and I kamp med Kvitekrist are my two favorite songs by Isengard

Neslepaks is awesome too. Personally I think he should stick to songs like this, and keep away from the harsh vocals.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I don't really like Folk/Viking at all.

[AA-12]

You lose Jono

[NemesisDivina]

I agree the clean, folky vocals sound really cool. It gives the songs a sort of medieval feel.

[Stormrider]

I don't really like Folk/Viking at all.

Just curious...remember any bands that you've checked out from the genre ?

[NemesisDivina]

Hahahaha. Tests are always fun. Then you find out that they're retards who just say they don't like a certain genre after barely listening to it at all

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Just curious...remember any bands that you've checked out from the genre ?
Ensiferum
Mithotyn
Nokturnal Mortum (if they count, and I don't mind them anyway)
Agalloch (again, if they count)

and I might have heard some Finntroll once idk.

[Stormrider]

Nah...I was just asking to see whether he checked out bands I really liked from it or not :p

Ensiferum
Mithotyn
Nokturnal Mortum (if they count, and I don't mind them anyway)
Agalloch (again, if they count)

and I might have heard some Finntroll once idk.

Meh... You've heard Windir right ? I was walays sure you had :-/
But, there's a lot better int he genre then those bands, and I'm sure there's some of them Folk/Viking thread regualrs that would agree with me, heh. Give it another chance :p

[RouteOne]

agalloch ftw

[Tyler]

Hahahaha. Tests are always fun. Then you find out that they're retards who just say they don't like a certain genre after barely listening to it at all

Why are you talking down to everyone? You've just registered. That usually comes with time. And you know, reasoning.

[Apocalypticon]

Isengard is bad IMO. Fenriz should have just stuck to Darkthrone.

[Daven]

^^Agreed. Isengard bores me.

Anyways, Nachtmystium rules.

[Nostalgia]

Isengard, save a few songs, are very boring.

[Tyler]

I listened to an Isengard album (is there more than one?) once and gave up halfway through.

[Anglachel]

^^Agreed. Isengard bores me.

Anyways, Nachtmystium rules.
I've been listening to Instinct: Decay a lot recently.

Other than that, I only have the s/t

[Daven]

There is one album, and some demos.


I've been listening to Instinct: Decay a lot recently.

Other than that, I only have the s/t

I: D is what i have but it's al ot better than i thought it would be.

[Nostalgia]

I listened to an Isengard album (is there more than one?) once and gave up halfway through.

I believe he released two.

[Apocalypticon]

Høstmørke is the only Isengard full length studio album. There is a best off though.

[Tyler]

Their new song sounded amazing in rehearsal form. THe final product isn't as great, but it should still be awesome when their split comes out.

Anywho, I'm listening to the first In The Woods... album, Heart of the Ages. It's outstanding so far, a lot more "Black Metal" than their later (but equally pwnerific) albums.

[Nostalgia]

They never did anything for me, which sucked 'cause I wanted to like them, heh.

[Anglachel]

There is one album, and some demos.




I: D is what i have but it's al ot better than i thought it would be.
Yeah, when I first heard it called "Psychedelic Black Metal" I thought it was some crappy joke, but its amazing.

[Daven]

I was tempted to check In The Woods out months ago but i was too lazy to download anything.

[Anglachel]

I have Omnio, but I didn't look up more than that

[Tyler]

I was tempted to check In The Woods out months ago but i was too lazy to download anything.

You should definitely check this out, it's really atmospheric and awesome. Omnio is great too, but it borders more on like Avant-Doom than anything. This is mostly "pure" BM with some clean vocals and interesting touches.

[Apocalypticon]

I was interested in checking them out but never did as I no idea what album to get and didn't wanna listen to all of them.

[Tyler]

Get "Heart Of The Ages", and then later if you want to go to the more experimental/avant side go for "Omnio". This is awesome so far though.

[Apocalypticon]

will do... eventually

I still have yet to full relisten to Ultima Thulee

[Daven]

You should definitely check this out, it's really atmospheric and awesome. Omnio is great too, but it borders more on like Avant-Doom than anything. This is mostly "pure" BM with some clean vocals and interesting touches.

Hmm sounds interesting, i might check Heart Of The Ages sometime soon.

[Tyler]

I thought Ultima Thulee was trash until I relistened to it. Now it's just okay.

On another note, these vocals are horrifying. It's awesome.

[Daven]

I never gave Ultima Thulee a fair listen. Nothing, from the little i heard, kept me interested.

[Apocalypticon]

The very first time I listened to it I got quite bored quite qucikly but little Jammie convinced me to relisten to it and I've put it off for a long time so I'm gonna do it soon.

[Tyler]

It just sounds a little childish somehow. The keys mostly.

[Stormrider]

Meh, I really like the album.

[Tyler]

Why do Black Metal fans make fun of Power Metal for being cheesy and corny? This Nokturnal Mortum booklet is one of the gayest things I've ever seen in my life, it gives Lost Horizon a run for their money.

"This great opus was recorded under the influence of summer death and teh deliverance of a new golden infant in 7505. The spells of the full moon helped us and this great power was getting free."

And then when it lists the members and who does what, it says:

Our great spirit was summoned by ferocity of: Knjaz Varggoth (spells, full moon mysticism, black emotions and six-roaring prophetic of Devil's Eminence), Karpath (six blades of vengeance and the banner of Great Apocalypse), Xaar Quath (low thunders and the breath of swamps), Munruthel (battles and the ringing of the falling church bells), Sataroth (poison draughts of the Great Ancients and Mystery), Saturious (astral influence of the Black Stars the distant planet falling into the fiery maw).


Like, that's so lame.

[naboo]

I do too. It's really cool. I like The Work That Transforms God a bit better though.

EDIT: To Stormrider.

[Apocalypticon]

I changed my mind about Ultima Thulee instead I figured I would listen to Nazgul(ITA). And apparently I forgot how good they are.

[Daven]

Our great spirit was summoned by ferocity of: Knjaz Varggoth (spells, full moon mysticism, black emotions and six-roaring prophetic of Devil's Eminence), Karpath (six blades of vengeance and the banner of Great Apocalypse), Xaar Quath (low thunders and the breath of swamps), Munruthel (battles and the ringing of the falling church bells), Sataroth (poison draughts of the Great Ancients and Mystery), Saturious (astral influence of the Black Stars the distant planet falling into the fiery maw).

:lol: This is very dumb.

"breath of swamps"? WTF

[Tyler]

Whatever happened to:

Guitars, Lyrics, Bass, Vocals, Drums.

SRSLY

[Riva]

Hehe. Nothing on Martin Furangen. Orchestrating of Thunder & Seismic Harmonising. \m/

[Stormrider]

I do too. It's really cool. I like The Work That Transforms God a bit better though.

EDIT: To Stormrider.

Ah, I rather Ultima Thulee. But The Work Which Transforms Gods is still good.

I need to go and reget the Nazgul album. I'de like to listen to it again. I'm sure I'll like it more.

[AA-12]

Nazgul is awesome.

/has been said 64246246246 times

[Stormrider]

Heh, I'm getting the album right now.

[Nostalgia]

I can't stand their vocals.

[AA-12]

That's why I like them, heh.

[Stormrider]

I can't stand their vocals.

That's what turned me away from them at first. But I'm in the moof for a whole LOTR thing...so I feel like checking them out again. :p

We'll see if my thoughts have changed.

[Angmar]

I think I like ABitNS a bit more than TH i dunno why. Blood Fire Death is awesome, I heard Octagon by Bathory though and it made me wanna cry :(

[Stormrider]

Man, this Nazgul is pretty sweet. Glad I gave it another listen. The vocals are still iffy, but the rest of the music overshadows them so...it's not that bad.

This band has some awsome build-ups/climax.

[Riva]

Even though I still maintain the vocalist sounded like a eunuch Dave Mustaine through a wind tunnel, it's still quite enjoyable musically.

[ATM]

Nazgul have some wierd vocals, I'll agree. I don't like the high pitched style they do.

[Stormrider]

Yeah. With good music like that in the back,. it's the possible to let the vocals go by. Besides, it's good that the vocals are kept to a minimum. :p

[Angmar]

I have never heard Nazgul what bands would u say are easily compared to them?

[AA-12]

Summoning.

[Stormrider]

Except faster.

[Angmar]

Summoning is alright have not heard a ton of their material though.

[Tyler]

Their vocalist sounds like wind, which is either a plus or minus depending on who you talk to. Vocals aside, these guys surpass the novelties they deliver (Latin, Orks and LOTR) and actually put out a solid album. Very symphonic but not of the gay variety, and all around awesome. Epic as ****, too.

My Nazgul review on RYM. Basically imagine a much faster, much more "black metal" version of Summoning.

[ATM]

What is your guys favorite Summoning album?

[AA-12]

Dol Guldur

[Tyler]

I'm usually told to go for "Let Mortal Heroes..." but I haven't actually gotten around to it yet.

[Nostalgia]

Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame.

The song "Farewell" is... amazing.

[Tyler]

I'm downloading some BM releases now before bed. Let me know if it's a good idea or not.

Peste Noir - Some long french title (2006)
Weakling - Dead as Dreams
Nachtmystium - Instict Decay

[FatalEnergy]

I like Minas Morgul the most.

[Nostalgia]

Peste Noir - Some long french title (2006)

That's an awesome album.

[Tyler]

Txus recommended 'er to me.

[Nostalgia]

As he did to me, heh.

[Tyler]

The only time he's disappointed me was Mutiilation. I'm still hoping that they're just part of a huge joke I've yet to understand.

edit: This Peste Noire is already outstanding.

[AA-12]

Peste Noire is arguably the best modern BM band around.

[Tyler]

I really love French BM. I was under the impression they were part of the whole LLN thing so I just never bothered checking htem out. The second I found out they werent, I jumped on it.

[Nostalgia]

Which album did you get? I have Destroy Your Life for Satan, and I liked it for a couple weeks, but I don't even listen to it anymore.

I don't think you'd like any LLN bands, haha.

[Tyler]

Which album did you get? I have Destroy Your Life for Satan, and I liked it for a couple weeks, but I don't even listen to it anymore.

I don't think you'd like any LLN bands, haha.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/soundoff.php?albumid=16399

I could probably **** out a better album than most of the LLN stuff I've heard. I could literally fart into a microphone and shriek for a bit and it'd be better. Actually, some of it sounds like they've beat me to it (not Mutiilation though).

[AA-12]

Vampires of Black Imperial Blood is the best. It's amazing.

[Tyler]

After that album I heard I refuse to give them another listen. Easily one of the worst things I've ever heard.

Brenoritvrezorkre is probably worse though, if only because it sounds like Mutiilation got stuck in a thunderstorm.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I keep trying to write black metal songs and they just come out melodeath. Pisses me off, but I guess I can't force it......

[Tyler]

Yeah, when you force it you just end up sounding like Krieg or some other shitty band that sucks.

[AA-12]

Forcing it is pointless. I only play BM when I feel like killing myself.

How emo is that

[Tyler]

Not emo. Black Metal.

[FatalEnergy]

As far as LLN goes, Vlad Tepes destroys everything.


NP: Summoning - South Uman

[bleep_bloop]

hey dont rag on emo guys

[AA-12]

Why not

[bleep_bloop]

because i like it

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Why not
ragging on emo is oh so tired.

Peste Noire is arguably the best modern BM band around.
Basilisk has them covered I think.

[AA-12]

I never even ragged on it really :-|

[Apocalyptic Raids]

yeah that wasn't really aimed at you, just in general emo ragging is overdone and annoying.

[AA-12]

Basilisk has them covered I think.

When I posted that, my senses were telling me to go back and edit in "next to Basilisk" :p.

Vintyr needs to make some new stuff :(

EDIT: Ouch, I just read on the Basilisk MA page: Status: Split-up

:\

[Apocalyptic Raids]

yeah Basilisk has been dead for quite a long time. He is supposed to be recording an album with his Hateful Abandon project early this year but that's been happening for fucking ages so I'm not holding my breath.

and I wish Todestrieb would fucking release that damned Basilisk compilation already. That's been coming for at least a year.

[AA-12]

Ah, I thought he was releasing his next under Basilisk.

Yeah, i'll be getting that comp whenever it comes out.

[Daven]

Basilisk is soo good.

[the2stranger]

I haven't heard anything by them.
I remember Mark was always talking about them.

[Stormrider]

I havn't listened to the Peste Noire full length in so long :-/ Havn't been in the mood, meh.

For Basilisk, I still need to get Vintyrhell...I never found it though.

[Daven]

I have two Basilisk album/Ep

[Stormrider]

Same. Blackened Royalty and the Full length.

[TimJim]

so which do you guys prefer the low or high pitch scream

(or no scream)

[AA-12]

High I suppose but either really.

[Jesusmafia]

High, but just by a slight margin . . .

[Tyler]

I like 'em both.

[TimJim]

low and dark my friend

[Stormrider]

I rather high, generally.

[Apocalypticon]

Nazgul screams are the best

[Tyler]

Nazgul "screams"

[Stormrider]

:p

They don't bother me anymore :-/
I can't get enough of the album since yesterday night. Listened to it 3 times since.

[Apocalypticon]

I guess screams wasn't the right word

I've always liked Nazgul's vocals. They are weird but I never found anything bad about them.

[Daven]

I prefer high, but a low every once in a while sounds cool.

[Txus]

The first time I heard Nazgul vocals I was in shock, but they became good after a while.

[Apocalypticon]

check out vocals on this

http://lenniebudgell.com/music/halls%20of%20mandos.mp3

[Apocalyptic Raids]

For Basilisk, I still need to get Vintyrhell...I never found it though.
You won't find it on the internet. I'm pretty sure Mark and Niflheim both own it, though.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I am in need of some new black metal material to listen too, recommend me some! go go go!

NP - Haemoth - Aeterne Diabolus

[RetiredAt21]

I am in need of some new black metal material to listen too, recommend me some! go go go!

NP - Haemoth - Aeterne Diabolus

Listen to Leech.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I am in need of some new black metal material to listen too, recommend me some! go go go!

NP - Haemoth - Aeterne Diabolus
Leviathan (Swe)

[RetiredAt21]

I am in need of some new black metal material to listen too, recommend me some! go go go!

NP - Haemoth - Aeterne Diabolus

Nachtmystium! They rule.

[Stormrider]

You won't find it on the internet. I'm pretty sure Mark and Niflheim both own it, though.

I remember Niflheim saying he had 2 copies of it, apparently.

But, I was speaking of an mp3 copy of it. Unless you were implying that I won't find that either.

Bobo, you know Fornost ?

[RetiredAt21]

I am in need of some new black metal material to listen too, recommend me some! go go go!

NP - Haemoth - Aeterne Diabolus

Seriously, listen to Nacthmystium. :thumb:

[Stormrider]

You said it like 2 posts before :lol:

Nachtmystium! They rule.

[RetiredAt21]

Nachtmystium don't get enough respect. It's ludicrous.

[Nostalgia]

:lol: I think you’ve made your point clear, dude.

[RetiredAt21]

Indeed I have.

[Nostalgia]

Anyone here like Branikald? NSBM from Russia.

[AA-12]

Yeah, they're fantastic. Tons of releases too, haha. I've got a few.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Bobo, you know Fornost ?

Yes, Der Wind Hat... is a quality album.


And I'll check out the other bands mentioned as well.

And also, can any one upload some Peste Noir for me or give me a link, I have been trying for probably a year to find their crap on slsk and it keeps eluding me.

[AA-12]

Could I possibly send it to you over AIM tonight?

[BlackFire_]

Could someone recommend me ambient black metal bands in the vein of Burzum, Drudkh, etc.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Could I possibly send it to you over AIM tonight?

Sounds like a plan.

[AA-12]

Sounds like a plan.

Alright. IM me if I don't get you first. I'm pretty good at forgetting :p

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I busted out the Draugar album Weathering The Curse last night, I forgot I had this great album...

Another good USBM that doesn't seem to have any discussion...


NP - Draugar - I Come As A Curse

[Apocalypticon]

Could someone recommend me ambient black metal bands in the vein of Burzum, Drudkh, etc.

Vinterriket
Paysage D'Hiver
Darkspace

[RetiredAt21]

Nachtmystium has a smidge of ambience.

[AA-12]

nachtmystium nachtmystium nachtmystium

[RetiredAt21]

:lol:

Seriously, they are so good.

[Anglachel]

Could someone recommend me ambient black metal bands in the vein of Burzum, Drudkh, etc.
NACHTMYSTIUM

[RetiredAt21]

NACHTMYSTIUM

Exactly.

[Anglachel]

Exactly.
Every time I play Instinct: decay on Winamp Decay gets played first despite the title and tags making it last. :-\

[FatalEnergy]

I still haven't checked out Nachtmystium :(

[Apocalypticon]

they are good but they aren't quite as good as retired would make them seem

[Anglachel]

Yes they are!

[FatalEnergy]

I've been on a Dissection binge. I forgot how good The Somberlain is.

[Txus]

Yes they are!

^This.

[FatalEnergy]

What album do suggest checking out first?

[Apocalypticon]

Instinct: Decay

[Txus]

Chosen by No One is so good.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I just got Demise by Nachtmystium, and I have to say it's pretty good. Nothing jaw dropping amazing, but still a pretty good listen that has a nice atmosphere to it and nice hypnotizing riffs that drone on and on.

Also thanks to Josh, I finally recieved the Peste Noire full lenght...

That album was damn good, the intro threw me off but the rest of the album just got better and better as it went along. Also the production wasn't obscenely bad or any thing, but it all worked together...Also the amount of clear and clean acoustic parts was also a shocker.

No one responded to my post about Draugar, any one listen to him by any chance?

[Txus]

I've heard the name Draugar before but I've never actually listen to hi :(

Btw, Bobo...I just got Darkestrah - The Way To Paganism \m/

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I've heard the name Draugar before but I've never actually listen to hi :(

Btw, Bobo...I just got Darkestrah - The Way To Paganism \m/

Nice.

If you like Xasthur and Leviathan you should check out Draugar.

[Txus]

I love Xasthur so I'll check him out. Is Weathering the Curse a good album to start with?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I love Xasthur so I'll check him out. Is Weathering the Curse a good album to start with?


Yeah, it's the only one I have currently but it's pretty solid all the way through.

[Txus]

Great, thanks man :)

[Stormrider]

I really need to check out Darkestrah eventually.

Yes, Der Wind Hat... is a quality album.

Ah okay, then. I really like the album. My only complaint is that the vocals could have been a bit better. Still a very enjoyable album, though. Love it.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Ah okay, then. I really like the album. My only complaint is that the vocals could have been a bit better. Still a very enjoyable album, though. Love it.


Yeah, there are parts in the songs where the vocals almost make me laugh at times...

Like 7:05 on Towards The Fall Of Time just are absurd :lol:

[AA-12]

Fornost is really generic.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

But, I was speaking of an mp3 copy of it. Unless you were implying that I won't find that either.
Highly unlikely.

That album was damn good, the intro threw me off but the rest of the album just got better and better as it went along. Also the production wasn't obscenely bad or any thing, but it all worked together...Also the amount of clear and clean acoustic parts was also a shocker.
Yeah it's pretty good. And the intro is ****ing horrible, I agree.

[Stormrider]

Yeah, there are parts in the songs where the vocals almost make me laugh at times...

Like 7:05 on Towards The Fall Of Time just are absurd :lol:

Haha ! The atmosphere is really great, but then I'de just find myself paying too much attention/thinking of how kinda bad the vocals are and it ruins it a bit for me. But they're far from generic, as Wotan put it.

:-*

The guitar tone isn't filled with fuzz, which is pretty cool too. Not that fuzziness bothers me...just sayin' lol.

Highly unlikely.

Ah okay then. Have you heard it ? If so, is it as good as his other stuff ?

[AA-12]

Yeah it's pretty good. And the intro is ****ing horrible, I agree.

falsefalsefalsefalsefalsefalse

[Stormrider]

It's not ****ing horrible. But I was kinda like "uh oh no" the first time it came on. Good thing it got a lot better.

Havn't listened to it in a long time. I tried looking for some of hte other demos, but couldn';t find any.

[Tyler]

The intro isn't horrible, it's just awkward.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

truetruetruetruetruetrue

Ah okay then. Have you heard it ? If so, is it as good as his other stuff ?
No but I hear it's pretty good.

[AA-12]

Save for Phalanes and Spleen (since the intro isn't a real "song"), it's the absolute best part of the album.

[Stormrider]

No but I hear it's pretty good.

Okay then. I never really hear anything about it :-/

Wotan:how can it be your favorite off the whole album ? :-/

The last song is one of my favorites. Those outro lead melodies are pretty sweet. I love it.

[AA-12]

I dunno, it just is. I think it was written perfectly.

[Txus]

The intro is ****ing amazing.

[Tyler]

The beginning of Phalènes Et Pestilence - Salvatrice Averse is probably my favourite part off that Peste Noire album.

[Stormrider]

Yeah, that acoustic stuff is cool. I really like when the distortion and vocals come in too.

[Tyler]

I just love how bluesy it is, and then when it comes back 5 minutes in, it's so awesome.

[FatalEnergy]

Anyone have a link to it?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Peste Noire? Look on Soulseek.

[Dash]

I have a question (no stupid responses please). Why isn't there more medieval oriented black metal such as Satyricons Dark Medieval Times? It seems, that era is probably the most interesting, dark and mysterious in history and "grimness" aside musically seems to work well with a lot of black metal arrangements. Is it that Black Metal is really confided to a certain image and only branches off only sometimes to past history (such as Pagan themes)?

[i am the robots]

It's a movement very very deeply rooted in tradition. Tradition happens to date back to medieval times and beforehand.

[Dash]

It's a movement very very deeply rooted in tradition. Tradition happens to date back to medieval times and beforehand. If I gather what I am from your post, your saying that when black metal bands do music directed towards history, it is built upon there tradition. This tradition is more related to (although at the same time as the middle ages) the celts and the nords specifically the vikings, since it was the traditions of Scandinavia? However, many black metal bands are not oriented towards this cultural heritage. Many bands sing about Tolkien themes, Satanism the occult etc.. so there is no reason not to have medieval themes either since the other topics as well as topics I havent listed do not apply to tradition.

[Tyler]

I have Peste Noire and a lot of good BM in general on soulseek. SN = lintmunro

If you ever catch me on, grab some. Tell me who you are on MX and I'll see that you get ahead in line ;)

[i am the robots]

If I gather what I am from your post, your saying that when black metal bands do music directed towards history, it is built upon there tradition. This tradition is more related to (although at the same time as the middle ages) the celts and the nords specifically the vikings, since it was the traditions of Scandinavia? However, many black metal bands are not oriented towards this cultural heritage. Many bands sing about Tolkien themes, Satanism the occult etc.. so there is no reason not to have medieval themes either since the other topics as well as topics I havent listed do not apply to tradition.

Take Satyricon or Burzum or Enslaved for example. Lot's of ethnocentrism there.

A lot of the image is based off of tradition. And the Satanic themes are often used in a more anti-Christian sense as to drive the Christians out. As for the Tolkein themes: nerds. They love fantasy because it's based off of what they're obsessed with: traditional medieval Europe.

[Dash]

Take Satyricon or Burzum or Enslaved for example. Lot's of ethnocentrism there.

A lot of the image is based off of tradition. And the Satanic themes are often used in a more anti-Christian sense as to drive the Christians out. As for the Tolkein themes: nerds. They love fantasy because it's based off of what they're obsessed with: traditional medieval Europe. Ah yes but than I dont understand why a few don't say instead of writing about tolkien, lets actually talk about something more proffesional and realistic like the real medieval times. Eh maybe most black metallers dont think that way. Although Satyricon did and look at how praised Dark Medieval Times is.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Well writing about LOTR would appeal to fellow LOTR nerds.

[Dash]

Well writing about LOTR would appeal to fellow LOTR nerds. True although medieval times are generally more interesting and dark than LOTR per say, however maybe a lot of BM musicians are just LOTR nerds.. Although it's pretty easy to see how BM keeps getting more generic, when no one will expand into new territories that could relate to Black Metal.

[RetiredAt21]

To be honest, I'm sick of the Lord Of The Rings crap.

[Iron Bars]

I might be able to catch both Immortal and Emperor live this summer (Immortal for sure). Is Emperor worth seeing live?

[pate]

They're excellent on the DVD, and I'm seeing them this summer, so hopefully yes.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm sure Emperor is awesome live.

[pate]

I hear them called boring all the time, but that's probably because they play their songs correctly, and don't run around like retards.

[Stormrider]

Heheh :p

I'de like to see Emperor live. Doubt they'll come here though.

I'de have to look for some stuff that has a medieval vibe to it like Dark Medieval Times. I'm sure I've seen other bands while looking through Metal Archives.

[Iron Bars]

I have the luxury of choosing between Wacken Open Air in Germany and Hellfest in France. Both have great lineups (both with Immortal) but its either Moonsorrow and In Flames or Emperor.

[Stormrider]

I'de go to Wacken Air. Blind Guardian and Iced Earth are there this year.

:P

In all seriousness, I rather Moonsorrow to Emperor so yeah.

[Iron Bars]

I know but I've seen both of them already. Emperor is only doing 2 shows in Europe this year. I'm still not sure what to do so I'm keeping my options open.

[ATM]

How much are Wacken tickets, anyhow?

[AA-12]

Ah yes but than I dont understand why a few don't say instead of writing about tolkien, lets actually talk about something more proffesional and realistic like the real medieval times. Eh maybe most black metallers dont think that way. Although Satyricon did and look at how praised Dark Medieval Times is.

What do you think inspired Tolkien? Ancient European stories, myths, and history.

I kind of wish there was more LoTR BM :-\

[Stormrider]

There's only 2 LOTR or middle earth based stuff that I listen to(for BM)...and it's Summoning and Nazgul, and both are amazing.

I think that's the only 2...

[RetiredAt21]

I wanna see 1349 live. I bet that's intense as fuck.

[Tyler]

LOTR themed bands are the only thing gayer than LOTR itself. With that said, I like a few of said bands.

[Apocalypticon]

Summoning are a very big exception to that rule.

And Iron Bars go to Moonsorrow instead of Emperor, because Moonsorrow would be extremely epic live.

[Stormrider]

Yeam. I missed them when they came to Montreal in January :(

[Tyler]

Summoning are a very big exception to that rule.
I went to go buy LMHSYF yesterday and someone had beat me to the punch :@

[Stormrider]

I have a feeling I'm going to have that by monday.

I'm sure that by ordering the album 2 weeks ago(not that saturday that just passed, but the one before) I should have it soon.

[Apocalypticon]

@Cocaine: do you already have a downloaded copy or are you waiting till you can actually buy it like Jammie?

[Tyler]

@Cocaine: do you already have a downloaded copy or are you waiting till you can actually buy it like Jammie?

I was just going to buy it, but now I might download.

[the2stranger]

I wanna see 1349 live. I bet that's intense as fuck.

They're pretty good live, although I enjoy them more on CD.
Pretty nice show though.
Be sure to catch them when you have the chance.

[Apocalypticon]

I would just download it and buy it later. It is so good I wouldn't want to have to wait a long time to hear it.

BTW Jammie, did you ever listen to Songs of Moors and Misty Fields?

[publicastration]

Does anyone like The Meads Of Asphodel?

[AA-12]

Ben/Shadows loves them. I got an album and it is pretty cool, but WAY too experimental.

[the2stranger]

Meads are ok, I don't enjoy the production.
But I love their ideas, the mideel estearn influence is pretty cool and unique.

[Tyler]

Josh really hates experimental BM ITT.

This Nachtmystium is great, I just wish they didn't intentionally mudify their production. I remember hearing a rehearsal of theirs and it was actually clear and I think I liked it more because of it. But still, the production is fine, I'm just nitpicking.

[Apocalypticon]

I don't like experimental BM either. And Meads of Asphodel really didn't do anything for me. I got an album off Asa but only listened to it once or twice.

[AA-12]

Wouldn't you expect anything less of me? :p

[Angmar]

They're pretty good live, although I enjoy them more on CD.
Pretty nice show though.
Be sure to catch them when you have the chance.

My cousin saw them live and said it was the best show he has ever been to.

[Tyler]

I love experimental BM, but on the same note I also really love "traditional" **** too.

I find that I pretty much like everything lately.

[Angmar]

Yeah both sides are good, if done right overly experemental BM can be pretty bad.

[AA-12]

I'm more for "new" and "original" stuff personally.

[Apocalypticon]

I like experimental BM like Wolves in the Throne Room, if you consider them experimental.

[Tyler]

Overly Experimental BM usually isn't BM at all though. Very few bands can pull off experimentation and still remain as part of the genre. And when I say "very few bands", I mean Sigh. Though they've drifted slightly with their last release, the new one will prove their pwnage.

I like experimental BM like Wolves in the Throne Room, if you consider them experimental.

They experiment with structure but I think that's pretty much it. You should check out Weakling if you haven't, they're outstanding.

[Angmar]

True if it is overly experemental it probubly isnt even BM.

[AA-12]

Sigh pretty much rules.

[Angmar]

True if it is overly experemental it probubly isnt even BM.

[Tyler]

Sigh pretty much rules.

I'm basically drooling for their new album. Mirai's BM vocals are back and better than ever, the concept KICKS ****ING ***, and the whole "Thrash meets German Syphonics" thing is getting me really stoked. It needs to come out.

Sigh is definitely one of the smartest most creative bands around. First there's the S.I.G.H.S.I.G.H thing with their album titles, then there's the music itself. Imaginary Sonicscape is the trippiest thing in the genre and there's that myth with Gallows Gallery about the sound that put Mirai in the hospital, and thus production had to be lowered. It was some WW2 experimental sonic noise, and the frequency really ****s with you. You can still sort of feel it on the album, but that might be placebo.

[AA-12]

I'm basically drooling for their new album. Mirai's BM vocals are back and better than ever, the concept KICKS ****ING ***, and the whole "Thrash meets German Syphonics" thing is getting me really stoked. It needs to come out.

Sigh is definitely one of the smartest most creative bands around. First there's the S.I.G.H.S.I.G.H thing with their album titles, then there's the music itself. Imaginary Sonicscape is the trippiest thing in the genre and there's that myth with Gallows Gallery about the sound that put Mirai in the hospital, and thus production had to be lowered. It was some WW2 experimental sonic noise, and the frequency really ****s with you. You can still sort of feel it on the album, but that might be placebo.

Whoa, I'm am definitely checking that out. I haven't heard much at all from them.

[Tyler]

Well, Gallows Gallery you will definitely not like, it's all clean vocals, lots of organ and a vocorder and it's just all around not BM. I love it though.

Imaginary Sonicscape is a total mind**** though.

[AA-12]

Um, those things you mentioned about GG sound good to me tbh

[Tyler]

It's just not a BM album at all. So don't take it as such. It's almost fun to listen to, and has lots of really catchy vocal harmonies and ****. It's really psychedelic too.

The 6th full-length album, "Gallows Gallery" was recorded in 2004. News on the new album began to appear on the website of Candlelight records in July 2005, announcing the album would be released on their label within the next few months.

It was later revealed that Century Media had refused to release the album on their label since the new album contained parts applying sonic weapon techniques, experimented with during World War II. However, the fact that Century Media was not pleased with the departure from Sigh's black metal roots on the record also played a role. A warning was issued regarding the 6th full-length album, saying it could do harm to one's health due to the implementation of these sonic weapon techniques. Mirai was actually hospitalized while working on the album, which was one of the reasons that the album was delayed for more than two years.

You can read more about the Sonic Weapon stuff here:
http://sigh.gospel-virus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16

The instruments used on Gallows Gallery are just so out of this world. One song alone has Mirai playing: Vocals, Subharmonic Singing, Organ, Fender Rhodes, Minimoog, Theremin, Sitar, Tabla, Glockenspiel, Sampling.

There's also throat singing, Calavinet, Gong, DX-7, Tibetan Bells, Taisho-Koto, Saxaphones, Prophet-5

[Stormrider]

BTW Jammie, did you ever listen to Songs of Moors and Misty Fields?

Nope. I havn't given it a listen yet. I will later today. Don't worry :p

What about you and Ultima Thulee ?:p

And I don't think I've listened to any expiremental black metal. Name some bands...

[Tyler]

Sigh on some releases. Scorn Defeat is their most BM, then it gets more psychadelic/weird, and then their last had almost zero BM on it. The new one will.

Negura Bunget. Extremely well produced with an atmosphere rivalled by almost no one. Lots of contrast between dark/light elements, and unfailingly epic vocals. This refers to their latest release, Om.

Those are my two personal favourites of the "Experimental" nature right now. Some could argue Negura Bunget arent all that experimental, and some could argue Sigh arent that BM, but whatever.

[Stormrider]

Sigh on some releases. Scorn Defeat is their most BM, then it gets more psychadelic/weird, and then their last had almost zero BM on it. The new one will.

Negura Bunget. Extremely well produced with an atmosphere rivalled by almost no one. Lots of contrast between dark/light elements, and unfailingly epic vocals. This refers to their latest release, Om.

Those are my two personal favourites of the "Experimental" nature right now. Some could argue Negura Bunget arent all that experimental, and some could argue Sigh arent that BM, but whatever.

Ah. Negura Bunget was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago, but I havn't given them a listen yet. I should get to that then.

[Tyler]

Listen to it with headphones, preferably in the dark or in a quiet environment. It'll suck you in. I hear "'N Crugu Bradului" is even better.

[Stormrider]

Okay, will do ;)

I'll get the album sometime in the next few days. I doubt it'll be tonight. Though, thanks for that.

[Shattered_Future]

What the HELL are "sonic weapons techniques"?

/doesn't want to sign up for site.

[Tyler]

What the HELL are "sonic weapons techniques"?

/doesn't want to sign up for site.

Basically they're just what it sounds like. Sonic Weapons use frequencies and sound waves that could potentially cause harm to the listener/victim.

[Shattered_Future]

Damn...it sounded interesting at first, but I don't want to listen to that now. :lol:

[Tyler]

You can't really tell, the production was altered and such. You can sort of feel it if you blast the music but it wont kill you or anything. It hospitalized the singer but that was when he was working directly with it in the studio.

And let it not be forgotten that the implementation of sonic weapon techniques that were experimented with in World War II are delicately placed deep within the layers of the album. While it is not revealed just where these techniques are applied, this simply adds to the experience and the challenge to discover the plot of "Gallows Gallery." The album was actually delayed because Mirai was hospitalized after receiving dizziness, migraine headaches, and an extreme ghastly pale tone, which were all products of this sonic weapon technology. So following the warning label tradition set on "Hail Horror Hail", Mirai told the world "You are now warned that this album could do harm to your health." days prior to the album's release.

IF anyone ever wants to look into Sigh, their website is ridiculously informative on every album they've ever released. It has full conceptual explanations, summaries, reviews, lyrics and such.

http://sigh.gospel-virus.net/

There's also an almost endless amount of material to stream, be it on the album page or using the site player itself.

[publicastration]

Meads are ok, I don't enjoy the production.
But I love their ideas, the mideel estearn influence is pretty cool and unique.

Do you like black metal at all?? There's much worse production out there. Meads' production is actually pretty good for bm.

I love that a lot of their songs have a punk feel to them. It's awesome.

I really want to check out Sigh. Album reccomendations?

[Tyler]

Do you like black metal at all?? There's much worse production out there. Meads' production is actually pretty good for bm.

I love that a lot of their songs have a punk feel to them. It's awesome.

I really want to check out Sigh. Album reccomendations?

You can't go wrong with Sigh.

Scorn Defeat = Most "Black Metal"
Gallows Gallery = Latest, least "Black Metal"
Imaginary Sonicscape = Best album. Psychedelic, progressive, avant garde, all without sounding like ****.

[Nostalgia]

Nope. I havn't given it a listen yet. I will later today. Don't worry :p

What about you and Ultima Thulee ?:p

And I don't think I've listened to any expiremental black metal. Name some bands...

Get ...A Wintersunset if you like Songs of Moors and Misty Fields. I don't really like either of the albums, but that's because I wasn't into Empyrium's whole symphonic/doom side.

Get Where At Night the Wood Grouse Plays if you wanna hear some good neofolk.

[Stormrider]

Get ...A Wintersunset if you like Songs of Moors and Misty Fields. I don't really like either of the albums, but that's because I wasn't into Empyrium's whole symphonic/doom side.

Get Where At Night the Wood Grouse Plays if you wanna hear some good neofolk.

I had Wintersunset on my computer a while back. But I deleted it, for some reason. But I was hesitsating between Where at Night... and Songs of Moors... before, and I decided to get Songs of Moors because I didn't realy want an entire acoustic folk album by them atm.

[Daven]

Im hearing to SoM&MF and its pretty good.

NP: The Blue Mists Of Night

[Pwntendo]

Listening to the new Naglfar.

It's okay.

ugh such bad lyrics

[Tyler]

Naglfar are pretty disposable.

[Pwntendo]

I am bored of this album now.

still five songs to go