Official Today's the draft thread

[Hababi]

Yeah, today's the NBA draft...So, talk about that...

Read a trade rumor that would see the Blazers send the #3 and Zach Randolph to Utah for the #6 and Carlos Boozer...

This isn't good for either team, really...Randolph is a better player than Boozer, so the Blazers drop in talent level, and Randolph is a head case with character problems who will drive Jerry Sloan nuts, so wtf? If I were the Jazz, I'd immediately try to trade Randolph to the Lakers for their two draft picks.

[robo2448]

Let's see, how can the Knicks **** up this draft?

[Understanding In a Crash]

Let's see, how can the Knicks **** up this draft?
Possible Scenarios

A) Knicks Draft a PG
B) Knicks Draft a SF
C) Knicks draft a Center and trade him away for a PG
D) Knicks don't draft anyone!

[robo2448]

Possible Scenarios

A) Knicks Draft a PG
B) Knicks Draft a SF
C) Knicks draft a Center and trade him away for a PG
D) Knicks don't draft anyone!

Don't forget

E) Knicks draft a undersized PF ;)


:upset: Why do the Knicks suck so much :upset:

[Understanding In a Crash]

Whatever happens, unless some chance Knicks get Dirk Nowitzki somehow the Knicks are going to blow none the less. And the chances of that are .001%

Draft Day the knicks always blow a big one...

[robo2448]

Whatever happens, unless some chance Knicks get Dirk Nowitzki somehow the Knicks are going to blow none the less. And the chances of that are .001%

Draft Day the knicks always blow a big one...

If the Knicks got Dirk he would get injured and never play again. The Knicks can screw up anything.

[402unearthly402]

anybody notice that there really isnt anybody that really stand out in this year's draft?

i mean that center from utah is considered to be the first pick a lot of people, and he doesnt really seem like a difference maker

hes a good player dont get me wrong, but he lacks defense and athletism

[Hababi]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_13205.shtml

Jazz trade their #6, 27 and conditional first next year to the Blazers for their third pick...

The Jazz got screwed. They could've had Felton with the #6 and then taken Garcia, Simien or someone else with the second pick, or taken Webster/Green/Frye with their first pick, then Jarrett Jack later on. Dumb move, Jazz.

Now, the Blazers can get Green or Webster and then Ryan Gomes later on, there you have your 2/3 crew to go along with Randolph, Przybilla and Telfair.

[robo2448]

anybody notice that there really isnt anybody that really stand out in this year's draft?

i mean that center from utah is considered to be the first pick a lot of people, and he doesnt really seem like a difference maker

hes a good player dont get me wrong, but he lacks defense and athletism

www.espn.com had a good article on that- Page 2.

[MattSharpIsCool]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_13205.shtml

Jazz trade their #6, 27 and conditional first next year to the Blazers for their third pick...

The Jazz got screwed. They could've had Felton with the #6 and then taken Garcia, Simien or someone else with the second pick, or taken Webster/Green/Frye with their first pick, then Jarrett Jack later on. Dumb move, Jazz.

Now, the Blazers can get Green or Webster and then Ryan Gomes later on, there you have your 2/3 crew to go along with Randolph, Przybilla and Telfair.

Gerald Green will probably be the third player taken, and Portland could have really used him. They dont have an explosive scorer, and he could have been that player.

[pikester]

Good year for U of Utah.... first overall picks in NBA and NFL drafts.

[3074326]

What the heck is Charlie Villanueva doing at 7?!?! He's a good player and all, but he's not THAT good. The Raptors didn't even pick someone they needed.

Congrats to Bogut. Congrats to them all, really.

Mark my words - Wayne Simien will be the biggest steal of this year's draft. He averaged a double-double, and he was double-teamed every game. He can shoot, he can defend, he's in great physical condition, great player.

[Ugoff]

I wonder if the Spurs can pick another late draft pick that ends up being a lot better than everybody expected :)

[Understanding In a Crash]

Channing Frye on the Knicks :thumb:

Wow, I am impressed.

[robo2448]

Channing Frye on the Knicks :thumb:

Wow, I am impressed.

I really hope we don't trade him.

/I am still faithful the Knicks can somehow screw it up.

[simplephotographinthesun]

denver picks up jarrett jack and julius hodge

[Hababi]

Ok, thoughts so far:

TERRIBLE pick for Toronto taking Charlie V. WTF? The guy is like a poor man's Chris Bosh...

Golden State shouldn't have taken Ike Diogu. He was a reach and a poor fit for the team.

Charlotte taking Sean May is a profoundly stupid move, especially with Danny Granger left on the board. Their frontcourt was solid; they needed a swing man and Granger, Green or Graham were all better picks.

McCants was a reach for the TWolves, bad pick.


Indiana and Boston got steals.

Why did Detroit choose Jason Maxiel? Does this mean Darko is getting traded?

Atlanta's choice of Stoudemire was terrible. They needed a PG or a center, they took an undersized SG when Daniel Ewing and Roko Ukic were left on the board. Boneheads.

[Hababi]

and why did NY take David Lee? wtf? Miami should've taken him, NY should not have.

[simplephotographinthesun]

why did the warriors pick up diogu? they have a logjam at the forward position, unless they plan on getting rid of injury-prone troy murphy

[Hababi]

That's a possibility; you still have Zarko Cabarkapa though, but he can play 3 positions. Danny Granger would've been a much better pick to replace the likely departing Mike Dunleavy.

[MattSharpIsCool]

So what happened to Gerald Green and Danny Granger? I saw a lot of drafts with them going at #3 and #7 respectively, and they fell to 18 and 17.

[Illmatic]

Oh my god, I cannot BELIEVE the C's ROBBED Gerald Green.

ALMOST makes up for Keith ****ing Foulke. Almost.

[Brewer14]

I was hoping Sacramento would get a big man, but I guess Garcia was the best player available. He'll fit into the Kings system, but they really need a rebounding big man, not another guard.

[Brewer14]

Hey Ill (sorry, I dont know your real name), if a player didnt sign with an agent and didnt get drafted, can he go back to college?

[Illmatic]

As long as he does not sign with an agent, he can retain his college eligibility.

[Hababi]

So what happened to Gerald Green and Danny Granger? I saw a lot of drafts with them going at #3 and #7 respectively, and they fell to 18 and 17.


Boneheaded decisions by NBA GMs.


Hey Ill (sorry, I dont know your real name), if a player didnt sign with an agent and didnt get drafted, can he go back to college?


yes.

Garcia was a good pick for the Kings; he gives them size at the 2 guard spot that they lack now. Solid pick.

[ThePatient]

John Gilchrist didn't get drafted. :(

Now he can go be streaky and inconsistent in Europe.

[Hababi]

Whoever gets Alan Anderson into camp is going to get an undrafted steal. He'll be a solid pro.

[Illmatic]

Boneheaded decisions by NBA GMs.

I'm still thrilled that Gerald Green is going to be a Celtic. What a steal.

[Understanding In a Crash]

Charlotte taking Sean May is a profoundly stupid move, especially with Danny Granger left on the board. Their frontcourt was solid; they needed a swing man and Granger, Green or Graham were all better picks.

McCants was a reach for the TWolves, bad pick.

Atlanta's choice of Stoudemire was terrible. They needed a PG or a center, they took an undersized SG when Daniel Ewing and Roko Ukic were left on the board. Boneheads.
I disagree, with these statements but agree with the rest. I see where you're coming from but..

Charlotte taking Sean May I thought was a GOOD move. Let's face it that besides Emeka Okafor, Gerald Wallace, Keith Bogans this team is probably one of the weakest and these guys are a reach at best. Sean May and Emeka Okafor in a few years can definitely be a dominating post presence and I'm not talking so much offensively even if that is the case, but defensively these guys are both skilled big men to have. Another factor that plays in is probably the tar heel alliance. It's probably known that Felton and May are going to have an edge from their college years and I definitely think they took this into consideration when drafting him. I actually kind of hoped May would of gone to the Knicks.

Another dismemberment of the tar heels team comes from McCants and I don't see why this is a bad move. It's kind of dangerous thinking to even imagine McCants being an off guard to Cassell now. Latrell Sprewell and the Timberwolves I definitely would say are not in great terms and they've been trying to ship him out the door last time I checked. Even though it may be early it seems like the Timberwolves are preping for the future.

Salim Stoudamire is one of my favorite players I just had to add and I did not believe this was a bad move at all. Not speaking on Stoudamires part, Atlanta drafting Marvin Williams either shows ambition or stupidity. I'm just going to suspect that if Atlanta was smart they could trade away Al Harrington for that much needed Center or PG that they need. They could definitely come away with someone hefty. It looks like they will need to shift and change their roster around lots but I definitely can't wait to see what they do.

[Illmatic]

The dumbest picks were Charlie Villanueva at #7 (I can't see him ever being more than a 12 and 7 guy, at best) that 17 year old C at #10 (just atrocious drafting) and that Russian kid at #12 (you don't waste a lotto pick on someone you're going to send back to Europe for a few years).

[Understanding In a Crash]

I don't understand how Round 2 was basically everyone out of the United States and in High School getting drafted. Charlie Villanueva at #7 better be pulling out MIRACLES, he's a good guy just not wowwy though. A

And he has an egg head.

[Brewer14]

The dumbest picks were Charlie Villanueva at #7 (I can't see him ever being more than a 12 and 7 guy, at best) that 17 year old C at #10 (just atrocious drafting) and that Russian kid at #12 (you don't waste a lotto pick on someone you're going to send back to Europe for a few years).

What do you expect from the Clippers? :p

[Illmatic]

Actually, the Clippers drafted the Russian kid. The Lakers drafted the HS center who projects to be a backup center by many experts.

[Understanding In a Crash]

It'd be funny if in 5 years Charlie Villanueva turns into the next Magic Johnson...

[Hababi]

Charlotte taking Sean May I thought was a GOOD move. Let's face it that besides Emeka Okafor, Gerald Wallace, Keith Bogans this team is probably one of the weakest and these guys are a reach at best. Sean May and Emeka Okafor in a few years can definitely be a dominating post presence and I'm not talking so much offensively even if that is the case, but defensively these guys are both skilled big men to have. Another factor that plays in is probably the tar heel alliance. It's probably known that Felton and May are going to have an edge from their college years and I definitely think they took this into consideration when drafting him. I actually kind of hoped May would of gone to the Knicks.


Emeka's really a PF in the league, he's much better suited at the four than the five. And, Brezec played solid basketball last year. No, he's no all star, but come on, Brezec at center and Granger at SF is better than May at PF and Wallace at SF. Green also was a better option.



Another dismemberment of the tar heels team comes from McCants and I don't see why this is a bad move. It's kind of dangerous thinking to even imagine McCants being an off guard to Cassell now. Latrell Sprewell and the Timberwolves I definitely would say are not in great terms and they've been trying to ship him out the door last time I checked. Even though it may be early it seems like the Timberwolves are preping for the future.


Garcia's bigger, a better shooter and isn't a head case.

[Understanding In a Crash]

I didn't like Garcia because he was sort of a bally hog. He came with too much cockyness and it was his own free throws that cost his team in his senior year.

Yeah they are both good players, but I thought Garcia was a PG anyway.

[Brewer14]

Actually, the Clippers drafted the Russian kid. The Lakers drafted the HS center who projects to be a backup center by many experts.

Er, yeah I just looked that up on ESPN. Oops. Still, you know the Clippers pick will most likely...suck.

I didn't like Garcia because he was sort of a bally hog. He came with too much cockyness and it was his own free throws that cost his team in his senior year.

Yeah they are both good players, but I thought Garcia was a PG anyway.

Garcia was only a junior, and he didnt seem cocky to me. He was the leader of the Cards, and was their go-to guy in the clutch. Wasnt really a ballhog either, but he seems to go into a shell against tougher teams (scored like 4 pts against Illinois in the final four)

[Illmatic]

"Deer in the headlights" doesn't even begin to describe Garcia's performance in the Final Four.

[nitzguy]

Mark my words - Wayne Simien will be the biggest steal of this year's draft. He averaged a double-double, and he was double-teamed every game. He can shoot, he can defend, he's in great physical condition, great player.

yea i was pissed that the pistons took Jasin maxieel.. or however you say his name. i would say bad draft for Joe Dumars.. with the 56 ad 60th picks he picked up a high schooler(another darko) and some no name guy out of pepperdine.... hello!!!! Alan Anderson.. Final 4, defender, versatile, MSU!!!. Joe you really messed up here :angry:

[Hababi]

"Deer in the headlights" doesn't even begin to describe Garcia's performance in the Final Four.


Most everyone (besides Robert Horry) chokes at some point in their career.

[stupid pit games >:[]

/went to high school with #10 pick, Andrew Bynum :cool:

I new since april he was going to the NBA, and skipping college, our school urged him to go to college but he told them to **** off :lol:

http://www.stjoes.org is his/mine school by the way

[Brewer14]

yea i was pissed that the pistons took Jasin maxieel.. or however you say his name. i would say bad draft for Joe Dumars.. with the 56 ad 60th picks he picked up a high schooler(another darko) and some no name guy out of pepperdine.... hello!!!! Alan Anderson.. Final 4, defender, versatile, MSU!!!. Joe you really messed up here :angry:

Maxiels tough, he fits in Joes system fine.

[robo2448]

Oh my god, I cannot BELIEVE the C's ROBBED Gerald Green.

ALMOST makes up for Keith ****ing Foulke. Almost.

That was a great pick. I can't believe he fell that far. When I looked at what happened on espn (wasn't watching draft live) I was thrilled that the Knicks got Frye. Then I saw that Green dropped and I was shocked. I was pretty pissed the Knicks didn't take him, but Frye fit our needs more.

[Hababi]

oops,,,

[Illmatic]

Most everyone (besides Robert Horry) chokes at some point in their career.

Not as much as Garcia did. I know most players choke, but I don't think I've ever seen a supposedly top-flight player look as utterly terrified as Garcia did against the Illini. Completely killed Louisville in that game.

Anyway, I've been mulling it over, and I've decided that Green could be like Dominique Wilkins with a better jumpshot.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I think Green will probably be the best and most talented player from this draft in the future.

[Hababi]

Not as much as Garcia did. I know most players choke, but I don't think I've ever seen a supposedly top-flight player look as utterly terrified as Garcia did against the Illini. Completely killed Louisville in that game.


So, he's not the guy you want to give the ball to in pressure situations. Bibby is. Garcia had to be the guy in Louisville, whereas he's the second or third option with the Kings. If they can get a better post player, he'll get lots of open jumpers between the post pressence and Peja.