The Official AFI Thread

[blacklantern]

that's a nine inch nails cover. it was uh... where did they release that? i forget. i know it was on a single somewhere, but maybe somewhere else.

it was on the grand theft auto san andreas soundtrack although it didnt make an appearance in the game...

[MSV]

Awesome band!!!!!

[cheeser_1]

it was on the grand theft auto san andreas soundtrack although it didnt make an appearance in the game...
or maybe it did, but you don't know because you suck and can't unlock the SUPER SECRET AFI LEVEL. in that level, all the houses are black and it rains all the time. :p

[blacklantern]

or maybe it did, but you don't know because you suck and can't unlock the SUPER SECRET AFI LEVEL. in that level, all the houses are black and it rains all the time. :p

thats weird.i have completed GTA san andreas 100% and theres no AFI level :lol: wait all the houses are black? keeps raining? that sounds familar.......

Does anyone know how old Davey Havok was when AFI recorded Answer that and stay Fashionable..? i think that Hunter is the oldest member of the band, but he only turned 29 a couple of months ago...hmmmm dont know....

[cheeser_1]

Does anyone know how old Davey Havok was when AFI recorded Answer that and stay Fashionable..? i think that Hunter is the oldest member of the band, but he only turned 29 a couple of months ago...hmmmm dont know....
he was no older than 23. i would guess between 21 and 23.

[El_Shiznit]

This can be solved using simple mathematics. (or at least be close)


In "...But Home Is Nowhere" Davey says that he is 26 years old. That was released in early 2003. Which means he probably wrote those words sometime in 2002. Answer That And Stay Fashionable was first released in August 1995. So it was most likely 1995 for the recording of that album.

So if he was 26 in '02, in '95 he had to have been around 18 or 19 during the Answer That And Stay Fashionable recording process.

[cheeser_1]

He was in high school in 1991, the year i usually see as when they "started" the band, which to me means more like 17-18. Which is where my estimate comes from. If we drop high school age down a bit to 16 or so, 19ish sounds reasonable.

[maco]

I have an answer:
Davey's birthday is November 20, 1975
Jade's is November 28, 1973
Adam's is February 5, 1975
Hunter's is May 14, 1976

[maco]

thats weird.i have completed GTA san andreas 100% and theres no AFI level :lol: wait all the houses are black? keeps raining? that sounds familar.......

Does anyone know how old Davey Havok was when AFI recorded Answer that and stay Fashionable..? i think that Hunter is the oldest member of the band, but he only turned 29 a couple of months ago...hmmmm dont know....
Hunter's the youngest, and Jade is the oldest.

[cheeser_1]

I have an answer:
Davey's birthday is November 20, 1975
Jade's is November 28, 1973
Adam's is February 5, 1975
Hunter's is May 14, 1976

not that i don't believe you, but source(s)?

and for the record, that fits the 19 year old estimate perfectly.

[maco]

so what do you reckon will happen to all these other songs that they dont use? a b-sides album(s) maybe? or even maybe a box set... i hope that they dont go to waste...that would be a shame... i would also like to see a AFI dvd released, that would be awesome...
They do go to waste, just like over 80 songs will for the next album. They topped 100 in January and only about 15 will be released publicly.

[maco]

They've written over 50 songs, apparently. They will all choose their favourites and put about 15 on the new cd.
http://board.despairfaction.com
Old....they said 80 in November or December and I think they said 100 in January

[maco]

Anyone been on their website recently? I just was on there and there is a new song as background music. The name is head like a hole and it is very industrial sounding. Go to it and listen.
And apparently you didn't notice that the site is cracking to reveal the new one when the next album comes out?

[maco]

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37YGH47XVHZD90H5YEPCR527F4

K that link has the Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings) demo and the Great Disappointment demo.

[maco]

not that i don't believe you, but source(s)?

and for the record, that fits the 19 year old estimate perfectly.
Does "common knowledge" count? Any in-depth bio of them will tell you it. Obsessive fans can tell you it. There was a lot of debate as to Hunter's year though. I asked on the Hunter Revenge messageboard, and he said it's 1976.

[wwb27]

this band is amzing although they used to be better

[blacklantern]

Does anyone ahve the AFI/Swingin' Utters split album which i think is only exclusive to vinyl??? or does any one know where to get songs from it??? that would be heaps cool...

[cheeser_1]

six or seven bucks on ebay.

[justinb123]

i sorta like afi thooooough kind light tho

[skaterdan07]

They've written over 50 songs, apparently. They will all choose their favourites and put about 15 on the new cd.


i heard the same thing.

[Metallica_1]

I hate sing the sorrow. I like Very Proud Of Ya and Answer That and Stay Fashionable. Cereal Wars and Cruise Control are good songs. Jade Puget is the man.

[Berserker!]

http://nothingnice.com/comics/20030203.gif

[RetiredAt21]

Hahahaha.

[cheeser_1]

I hate sing the sorrow. I like Very Proud Of Ya and Answer That and Stay Fashionable. Cereal Wars and Cruise Control are good songs. Jade Puget is the man.
jade didn't play on either of those albums.

[albert_bass]

jade didn't play on either of those albums.

True. When you think supidity has come to its top, someone surprises you.

[blacklantern]

True. When you think supidity has come to its top, someone surprises you.

oh dont worry im sure ypu'll be surprised again soon....

[blacklantern]

six or seven bucks on ebay.

thanks!!! i'll be sure to get myself a copy!!!!!!!! does anyone knoe if the AFI/Swingin Utters plit album is good? im sure it would be...

[El_Shiznit]

I only have the AFI track off of it, and it is a cover of Dag Nasty's "Values Here". I'm sure the split has to own because of the facts....

AFI = awesome
Dag Nasty = awesome
Swingin' Utters = awesome

You can't go wrong!

[aznrocker]

Afi is a good band. They have some hits. My favorite's are Girls not Grey and God called in Sick Today.

[Thrall Bass]

What do I think of AFI...They have probably been my favorite band for...I dunno...4 years...They have good Misfits covers...My favorite songs would have to be File 13 and The Checkered Demon

[RetiredAt21]

I like their cover of Halloween. That's pretty good.

[El_Shiznit]

I like their cover of Halloween. That's pretty good.
So many bands cover that song. The best I've heard is Alkaline Trio's version.


My favorite AFI cover would have to be one of their Cure covers.

[albert_bass]

I've never listened to the cure so what's some cure covers by AFI?

[Blane420]

I used to love AFI, but after a few years the only cd's I would even listen to are: "Black Sails", and "Art of Drowning". The newest album was pretty weak imo.

[Berserker!]

My favorite song would have to be File 13

123 but after listening to it over 137 times it's a bit boring. I just gave Black Sails a re-listen and it's amazing although my favourite album would have to be Shut Your Mouth

[MinorThreat]

They were okay/good til they sold out.

And by 'sold out' I mean changed their sound to get on MTV, made music videos, signed a major label for money and raised ticket prices for their shows.

Their sound just evolved you dumb ****.
They had 3 music videos BEFORE Sing the sorrow came out.
Money is what keeps a musician making music in our world because it costs a buck or two to eat. Raised ticket prices...... wow, im guessing this kid is about 15 years old seeing as how he doesnt understand basic economics.


Supply vs Demand. Only a certain number of people can fit inside a concert hall. Lets say it holds 1000 people.

How many people are willing to pay 1 dollar to see AFI? Just about anyone in america.

How many people are willing to pay 10 bucks to see AFI? Just about anyone with knowledge of the band.

How many people are willing to pay 50 bucks to AFI? Just a bunch of Die-hard AFI fans.

So 25 bucks isnt unreasonable if you want to see the band. I Payed 45 bucks to get into street scene last year, and they are the only band i saw.

AND get this..... They dont set the price for how much the ticket costs. The owners of the venue do. They do get paid but they dont say, i will only play if i get paid 5 dollars a head. They get paid a set ammount regardless of how many people show up. The ammount of people that show up just determine how much they get paid next time, or if there is even a next time.

So how about NEXT TIME you read what you are saying BEFORE you open your mouth and start typing away half thought out ideas.



ALSO, if AFI are sell outs for being on Dreamworks record label. I guess the Ramones are Hella sell outs for being on Warner Bros. records.

[El_Shiznit]

I've never listened to the cure so what's some cure covers by AFI?
"The Hanging Garden" which is on the A Fire Inside EP.

"Just Like Heaven" which was performed live for a Cure tribute thingy.

[Tjebby]

My Michelle was a pretty good cover of theirs. I forgot who did the original.

[El_Shiznit]

Guns N' Roses did the original. It was off of the Punk Goes Metal compilation.

[Tjebby]

Yeah, thats what I thought. That was about the only song I liked on that cd... If I remember right.

[Rise Me Up]

I've been in love with AFI lately. They are avery unique band,from Answer That And Stay Fashionable to Sing the Sorrow.

[ScuzzBucket89]

I could never really get into AFI, their lead singer always came off as sortof "whiney" to me, at least their new stuff anyways. Is their older stuff different??

[Rise Me Up]

I could never really get into AFI, their lead singer always came off as sortof "whiney" to me, at least their new stuff anyways. Is their older stuff different??


There old stuf is fast paced punk. New stuff is,kind of pop-punkish,rock stuff.

[ScuzzBucket89]

There old stuf is fast paced punk. New stuff is,kind of pop-punkish,rock stuff.
I'll have to check em out,

[cheeser_1]

Yeah, thats what I thought. That was about the only song I liked on that cd... If I remember right.
come on, what about the death by stereo cover of little fighter?

[albert_bass]

Or Bigwig's cover of War ensemble by Slayer. If you don't like Bigwig you'll go to hell.

[blacklantern]

Or Bigwig's cover of War ensemble by Slayer. If you don't like Bigwig you'll go to hell.

ahahahaha bigwigs cover of War ensemble by slayer its great isnt it? ahahaha, slayer and t.s.o.l. do a split album to my knowledge. ahahahaha

apparently adam carson has finished the drum tracking and jade has gone into do the guitar....would of hunter gone in before jade?? hmmm i'll have to check again. i think the new album will be great and hopefully it will come out late 2005 woooooooooohooooooooooooo...

[TakeWarning]

apparently adam carson has finished the drum tracking and jade has gone into do the guitar....would of hunter gone in before jade?? hmmm i'll have to check again. i think the new album will be great and hopefully it will come out late 2005 woooooooooohooooooooooooo...

Where did you learn of this?

[albert_bass]

ahahahaha bigwigs cover of War ensemble by slayer its great isnt it? ahahaha, slayer and t.s.o.l. do a split album to my knowledge. ahahahaha

wtf is going on with all this ahahaha?

[Illidan]

I don't like them at all, they call themselves punk, when they aren't. They did a cover of Misfits--Last Caress which wasn't anything more than crap. I think they have potential, but right now, they are emo, and I am getting sick of it, especially the early stuff. I do like a couple songs, which are Silver and Cold, The Boy Who Destroyed the World, Girls Not grey, and God Called In Sick Today. That's all though.. that's my opinion.

--Illidan

[Theramed]

I don't like them at all, they call themselves punk, when they aren't. They did a cover of Misfits--Last Caress which wasn't anything more than crap. I think they have potential, but right now, they are emo, and I am getting sick of it, especially the early stuff. I do like a couple songs, which are Silver and Cold, The Boy Who Destroyed the World, Girls Not grey, and God Called In Sick Today. That's all though.. that's my opinion.

--Illidan

you are a clown

[TakeWarning]

you are a clown

As if, he's heaps cool.

/sarcasm.

[Theramed]

As if, he's heaps cool.

/sarcasm.

Correct, :thumb:

And AFI thay are a very good band I like they're early and new stuff but for differnt reasons. :)

[cheeser_1]

I don't like them at all, they call themselves punk, when they aren't. They did a cover of Misfits--Last Caress which wasn't anything more than crap. I think they have potential, but right now, they are emo, and I am getting sick of it, especially the early stuff. I do like a couple songs, which are Silver and Cold, The Boy Who Destroyed the World, Girls Not grey, and God Called In Sick Today. That's all though.. that's my opinion.

--Illidan
that wast the dumbest, most misinformed post in this thread.

[Kepone-Factory]

I never got into this band..

am I missing out?

[El_Shiznit]

Yes.

[tolazy4aname]

afi is ****ing awsome
I got into them before i was even into punk. Sing the sorrow was one of my first cds ever, although i'm ashamed to admit that i also bought a simple plan cd at the time and i've spent the past year fasting and preying to the gods of punk to forgive me.

(afi kicks ***)

[tolazy4aname]

you can't even write *** !?!?

[HTLSM]

afi they are pretty good

[HTLSM]

I never got into this band..

am I missing out?
yea pretty much

[Padmé]

you can't even write *** !?!?

Yes, you can write *** all you want when you're smart enough to beat the filter.

[blacklantern]

Where did you learn of this?

ummm most afi fan sites on the net will tell you this but the best one i have found has been www.afiseries.com (http://www.afiseries.com) its full of heaps of info and a **** load of downloads :thumb:

[act appalled]

they pretty much rule

[maco]

I hate sing the sorrow. I like Very Proud Of Ya and Answer That and Stay Fashionable. Cereal Wars and Cruise Control are good songs. Jade Puget is the man.
The lineup on those albums was Davey Havok, Geoff Kresge, Mark Stopholese, and Adam Carson. The only thing Jade did was the backing vox

[maco]

"The Hanging Garden" which is on the A Fire Inside EP.

"Just Like Heaven" which was performed live for a Cure tribute thingy.
There's gotta be another Cure cover...it seems so odd that they've only done 2...maybe there'll be one on the new album

[maco]

Yes, you can write *** all you want when you're smart enough to beat the filter.
what do you do? put like a[*color=white]s[/*color]s? without the stars?

[cheeser_1]

man, you should read through the thread, gather your responses (excluding things that have already been said), and just have one post.

[maco]

I have an idea http://geocities.com/macoafi/afi/bio.html There. That's the bio I made for AFI back in December. It's as complete as I could manage from memory.


For any album news stuff, everyone should look at Ixnay & Alli's site www.afiseries.com which has all of the lyrics (well, it's a new-ish site so some aren't up yet), the complete song list, a lot of set lists, the complete discography (every edition of every cd/vinyl/etc), and all the up-to-date news.

[blacklantern]

I have an idea http://geocities.com/macoafi/afi/bio.html There. That's the bio I made for AFI back in December. It's as complete as I could manage from memory.


For any album news stuff, everyone should look at Ixnay & Alli's site www.afiseries.com which has all of the lyrics (well, it's a new-ish site so some aren't up yet), the complete song list, a lot of set lists, the complete discography (every edition of every cd/vinyl/etc), and all the up-to-date news.

dude your biography is pretty good, as for the website thats pretty good as well... i suggest evryone take a look its definately worth it

[vnvrymdreglage]

AFI is a great band. I used to be absolutely obsessed with them in seventh grade and I bought all of their CDs. I'd say either The Art of Drowning or Sing the Sorrow are my favorite albums as far as the general feel of the overall record goes. However, my favorite songs are The Boy Who Destroyed the World, The Last Kiss, Now the World, Reivers' Music, and Bleed Black.

[HorrorPunk†]

I like AFI answer that and stay fashionable is my favorite album.I wanna a mohawk is my favorite song.

[maco]

AFI is a great band. I used to be absolutely obsessed with them in seventh grade and I bought all of their CDs. I'd say either The Art of Drowning or Sing the Sorrow are my favorite albums as far as the general feel of the overall record goes. However, my favorite songs are The Boy Who Destroyed the World, The Last Kiss, Now the World, Reivers' Music, and Bleed Black.
The Art of Drowning was the first AFI cd I bought ^^ And dude, tell me the VNV in your name is for VNV Nation...please say it is

[maco]

dude your biography is pretty good, as for the website thats pretty good as well... i suggest evryone take a look its definately worth it
*curtsies* thank you

[jimihendrixfan14]

i used ot lik em' now i dont .... im a classic rock fan now

[maco]

i used ot lik em' now i dont .... im a classic rock fan now
uhh....you can like multiple types of music....I mean, I've listened to classic rock, motown, soul, old R&B, disco, funk, and punk (well, the Clash, at least) my whole life. I added modern R&B and rap and hip hop like 7 years ago. I added ska two years ago. I added techno, EBM, hardcore, and industrial last year. I still listen to all of them (though rap, hip hop, and modern r&b are mainly just when my brother and sister choose the music because they aren't the top of my list)

[ZaaR]

Afi are amazing. That pretty much sums them up.

[gastery6]

I'm not a big fan of their newest stuff. I prefer their older stuff.

[it433]

What does everybody think of AFI? personally i think they're best thing thats happened to punk (if you would call them punk now) Davey's vocals mixed with the bands riffs and beats is just musical bliss.. what do you guys think?

i liked "very proud of ya" there new stuff sucks in my opinion.

[shane italian]

I love AFI. Geeze.

[Sleeper]

Im listening to Black Sails, This is my favorite album by them.

[h0pe1ess]

They were okay/good til they sold out.

And by 'sold out' I mean changed their sound to get on MTV, made music videos, signed a major label for money and raised ticket prices for their shows.

Im getting really tired of people putting bands down just because they make smart business decisions!
Would you rather they stay underground so only a handful of people can hear them?
The truth is, despite what people say, this is these peoples JOBS! This is how they make a living and earn money to feed their families. Granted, you can be "in it just for the music" but c'mon! They signed to Dreamworks to 1) Get out to a wider audience, nothing wrong with that, and 2) TO EARN SOME MONEY! People need money to live. If you dont think so, go live under a bridge and eat out of the garbage.
A band gets successful, wants to spread their fan base, wants to make smart decisions, they get labelled as sell outs by geeks who dont want anyone to enjoy a band but themselves. It happened to Green Day after American...., happened to Alkaline Trio, its now happened to AFI
The fact is, AFI are a successful band, and my opinion is, your jealous.

And, fyi, theres only about 2 songs on the whole of the Sing The Sorrow album, their major label debut, that would get onto MTV.

Now go die.

Rant over.

[MinorThreat]

Yeah, i already said that on page 12. I dont like when kids say AFI, or Green Day sold out. its like wtf..... Am i a sell out by quitting my current job to get a better job, i think as long as they stay AFI, and don't venture off into another bands territory then they should be fine. Did you notice Good Charlotte changed their image to replicate AFI......

We all know why though..... AFI is the ****.

*wishes everyone could still see his avatar*

[blacklantern]

if i had a shotgun i would not hesitate to shoot good charlotte...
if i had a rusty screwdriver i would not hesitate to stab good charlotte in the throat...
AFI have not sold out and hey most likely wont either.... They need more money to help create and produce a better album... Dexter Holland (i think thats his name) said that Nitro Records could only offer so much with recording n stuff and he advised them to go onto a major label anyway...recording isn't done for free **** bags it takes months and months to record an album which is months and months of money... Have you ever even heard anyone from AFI say anything about making more money by switching to a bigger label??? Go home to your nirvana records and keep telling yourself that AFI are sold out and while your at it get D.I.C.K.H.E.A.D.. Tattoed on your forehead.

[blacksails68]

What does everybody think of AFI? personally i think they're best thing thats happened to punk (if you would call them punk now) Davey's vocals mixed with the bands riffs and beats is just musical bliss.. what do you guys think?

AFI are brilliant, i have alot of their albums nd pretty much all of them are great.. specially black sails and art of drowning.. all hallows EP is cool too

:) :wave: :thumb:

[maco]

And, fyi, theres only about 2 songs on the whole of the Sing The Sorrow album, their major label debut, that would get onto MTV.
Uh...3....they had 3 singles....Silver and Cold was the only one I ever saw on TV, but I know GNG had that MTV2 award and TLSP2 was on tv too I think.

[cheeser_1]

Uh...3....they had 3 singles....Silver and Cold was the only one I ever saw on TV, but I know GNG had that MTV2 award and TLSP2 was on tv too I think.
"about 2" probably includes a possibility of 3. that's what the "about" is for.

[Punk_Rock_For_All]

Alright guys, it's not like Leaving Song II ended up beating Britney Spears on TRL or anything, and for the record, let's have the comparisons to Good Charlotte end right here, cool?

When you compare pre-AOD to Sing the Sorrow, It's like comparing something the Clash did in '77 to London Calling or Combat Rock. When the Clash released their first album, punk was still very unrefined, so after a couple of years of being together, their music changed to a more mainstream sound. They were still The Clash weren't they? People will automaticly judge your product differently when you become "the only band that matters." The same thing has happened to AFI. A very tallented band gets together and makes some good, fast, punk rock. After a while, if you keep putting out the same mile a minute punk rock, everything sounds the same. Bands have to evolve to stay alive, and that's what they did. I don't believe that money has anything to do with what they really want, but if someone waves a wad of cash in your face, and says to use it to spend more time making a kick @$$ record, would you turn it down?

The point is, every band will change it's sound, it's the way things work. Art of Drowning didn't sound like Black Sails, STS didn't sound like Art of Drowning, and the newest album will be nothing like STS. Guarenteed.

Evolution is the name of the game these days.

[Rootsradical]

i liked "very proud of ya" there new stuff sucks in my opinion.

Agreed

[seravance]

AFI are amazing. I don't think that them evolving makes them sell-outs. I mean, come on, would you listen to them if they still sang about cereal, high school and key lime pie? They grew up. Davey has said himself that the first 2 albums could be the same cd. There wasn't much of a difference between them. I don't think I'd listen to them if they sounded exactly the same as they did when Answer That came out.

Black Sails was an amazing cd, The Art of Drowning was great as well. Sing the Sorrow is f.ucking amazing in my opinion. The older ones are nice and fun to listen to but the newer ones are awesome.

[Society's Victim]

I never really got into AFI, I always thought Davey Havok's voice was annoying.

[albert_bass]

The point is, every band will change it's sound, it's the way things work. Art of Drowning didn't sound like Black Sails, STS didn't sound like Art of Drowning, and the newest album will be nothing like STS. Guarenteed.

Evolution is the name of the game these days.

BSOTS does sound pretty similar to Art Of Drowning.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I never really got into AFI, I always thought Davey Havok's voice was annoying.

I love is voice, it's what attracted me to them.

And STS is my favourite without a doubt, Black Sails is good too though.

[maco]

I never really got into AFI, I always thought Davey Havok's voice was annoying.
he said before that he could understand if people hate his voice cuz it's high pitch and whiny....cant find the exact quote right now though

[Amish Pornstar]

AFI was the first band I really got into.

[El_Shiznit]

I want a tiny discussion on some lyrics here. But surprisingly for the song, "Key Lime Pie".

Now while it may seem like a song about key lime pie to you, I think it has a deeper meaning. Honestly.

AFI released "Dork", "Behind The Times", and "Eddie Picnic's All Wet" on Key Lime Pie Records. The song "Key Lime Pie" wasn't released until Wingnut Records put out "Answer That And Stay Fashionable" the next year AFI made their last release on Key Lime Pie Records. I think that maybe the song "Key Lime Pie" could very well be either about or inspired by the record label. Whether it is good or bad, I don't know. But I think it has to do with the record company because the words "Key Lime Pie" aren't so common that it would be coincedence. Or maybe I'm just overanalyzing.


Thoughts?

[RockxThosexDrums]

I really loved Black Sails in the Sunset. Although I tried, I couldn't get into anything else.

I def. agree. Black Sails was my favorite ever. But then they got kinda pop-punkish when the got up to The Art Of Drowning and now STS is just..depressing. Ha. They are an OK band. :cool:

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Lines like this:

Key lime pie, infatuation that shouldn't exist
Key lime pie, your green filling makes me inept
"**** you, I'm mean" (I'm taking it out of context I realize)


I would see those as a bad thing. The green filling bit you could ignore and read that line as "Key Lime pie, makes me inept"

[El_Shiznit]

Lines like this:

Key lime pie, infatuation that shouldn't exist
Yeah, that line in particular got me wondering.

[maco]

I want a tiny discussion on some lyrics here. But surprisingly for the song, "Key Lime Pie".

Now while it may seem like a song about key lime pie to you, I think it has a deeper meaning. Honestly.

AFI released "Dork", "Behind The Times", and "Eddie Picnic's All Wet" on Key Lime Pie Records. The song "Key Lime Pie" wasn't released until Wingnut Records put out "Answer That And Stay Fashionable" the next year AFI made their last release on Key Lime Pie Records. I think that maybe the song "Key Lime Pie" could very well be either about or inspired by the record label. Whether it is good or bad, I don't know. But I think it has to do with the record company because the words "Key Lime Pie" aren't so common that it would be coincedence. Or maybe I'm just overanalyzing.


Thoughts?
Wasn't Key Lime Pie their own personal label? Oh, Shizzy, look, I have Key Lime Pie lyrics in my name-y thingy!

[maco]

Key lime. Infatuation that shouldn't exist.
Key lime pie. Indulge and i am in your debt.
Key lime pie. Inspire me with foolish love.
Key lime pie, your green filling makes me inept.
Flaky crust is what i lust. Your fresh lime scent is a must.
Take me with coffee, never with tea. You're the pie that pleases me!
People gawk "is that pie green?" ask for a bite - "**** you, i'm mean."
Key lime pie - cheapest hooker i've ever had.
Key lime pie. Last slice gleaming, if you're out i'm mad.
Key lime pie. Poke fun and laugh and jest.
Key lime pie. Don't bother me, digest key lime pie.

[alkalinesk8er]

Key lime. Infatuation that shouldn't exist.
Key lime pie. Indulge and i am in your debt.
Key lime pie. Inspire me with foolish love.
Key lime pie, your green filling makes me inept.
Flaky crust is what i lust. Your fresh lime scent is a must.
Take me with coffee, never with tea. You're the pie that pleases me!
People gawk "is that pie green?" ask for a bite - "**** you, i'm mean."
Key lime pie - cheapest hooker i've ever had.
Key lime pie. Last slice gleaming, if you're out i'm mad.
Key lime pie. Poke fun and laugh and jest.
Key lime pie. Don't bother me, digest key lime pie.

lol I wish I could write like that.

[noflags]

haha

[deadonmisfire]

I liked everything up until sing the sorrow, i mean i have all their cds, but then their sound just changed and i dont really like it. i mean i know it changed over time but it was such a jump. just dont like sing the sorrow. anything before is good

[antiflagsetsfire]

Their oldest stuff is amazing, God Called in sick today, Total Immortal, I Wanna Get a mohawk and stuff. Their new stuff is just kinda bad emo.

[Hep Kat]

its all awesome

[alkalinesk8er]

Their oldest stuff is amazing, God Called in sick today, Total Immortal, I Wanna Get a mohawk and stuff. Their new stuff is just kinda bad emo.

It is true, but must we repeat the same thing over and over and over and over... :rolleyes:

[Tjebby]

Its all awesome.
Quoted for truth. :cool:

[blacklantern]

well alot of you people are saying "oh the new stuff is **** and the old stuff rocks". I like both the new and the old stuff but i think its great that when performing live AFI still play all the old stuff. It's cool watching them play "This Secret Ninja"....davey sorta tries to sing it aswell as just old school sing......its pretty awesome...

[Minimaul]

I liked everything up until sing the sorrow, i mean i have all their cds, but then their sound just changed and i dont really like it. i mean i know it changed over time but it was such a jump. just dont like sing the sorrow. anything before is good


I don't think their sound changed that dramatically. If you listen to Black Sails and even the Art of Drowning you can hear the subtle progression into Sing The Sorrow. Well, Atleast I can.

Black Sails in the Sunset is my favorite, then Art of Drowning, then probably Sing the Sorrow.

But, that's just my opinion. AFI is one of my top 5 favorite bands.

[MinorThreat]

Their oldest stuff is amazing, God Called in sick today, Total Immortal, I Wanna Get a mohawk and stuff. Their new stuff is just kinda bad emo.

Leave this forum. You know nothing about punk if you consider their most recent album "emo".

For those of you still confused, emo is a common term today when something (usually type of music or poetry) is considered overly emotional. Now who would have thought something you dedicate your life to, something you spend months of your life, something put all of your effort into will not be emotional. Seriously now... why the **** is something bad if its emotional? Call it mainstream and ill get on your *** about something else but this **** is nuts.

Emo, when used in the right context, is an abbreviation for 'Emotionally Charged Hardcore Punk'

Listen to 'Rites of Spring' they are like the definition of 'emo' so listen to that, and try to compare that to Sing the Sorrow, and i assure you that you will be greatly embarassed by your lack of knowledge and abundance of stupidity and ignorant comments.

[blacklantern]

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Amen to that..... its good that Minor threat knows what he's talking about...unlike alot of people who have posted in this thread......aka guy who called afi emo....

[lifesupport_101]

They were okay/good til they sold out.

And by 'sold out' I mean changed their sound to get on MTV, made music videos, signed a major label for money and raised ticket prices for their shows.
they didnt sell-out. I hated the new cd when i first heard it. I was like wtf is this? Only till this summer when i listen to it i found that i really like there new stuff. The guitar work is so much more challenging i can barely play it myself. The musicly every thing is a cut above everything esle they have made-drum wise and guitar wise, lyricly since black sails and some songs before that they have all ways been great and bass has always been cool (but it seems like the bass has losts its edge on the new cd.) The only thing i really miss is the heavy dist. WHere did it go? Ohh well...Basickly i belive Davey is trying to find himself as a dramatic figure and create his own stage-stage persona. I know that sounds weird since they'er great live but he stole his presence from Danzig all up to STS. In conclusion they didnt sell out, they just changed. The new cd alleinated the "TRUE FANS" but of u go back and actually listen to the daym thing u'll find great musicanship. And the lyrics bring a tear too my eyes.

[antiflagsetsfire]

It is true, but must we repeat the same thing over and over and over and over... :rolleyes:

Yes

[MinorThreat]

Yes

I said leave

[maco]

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Amen to that..... its good that Minor threat knows what he's talking about...unlike alot of people who have posted in this thread......aka guy who called afi emo....
yes....when did it happen that people decided Rites of Spring wasn't emo and MCR was? I asked one of my friends to recommend me a good emo band (she says she's really into emo and when I asked another girl about emo she was like "go ask val. she knows everything about emo" ). She (Val) named a band and I asked what they sound like. She said they're acoustic. I was just like "So....nothing like Fugazi then?" and she was like "Who's Fugazi?" and I was just like "old emo from the 80s...."

[cheeser_1]

and she was like "Who's Fugazi?"
:lol:

[joebass]

At first, I thought they were mediocre. Because Davey Havoc's vocals really turned me off from the band. But when their last album came out, I just didn't like them because they were getting a bit too mainstream and emo for me.

[RetiredAt21]

They aren't emo you idiot.

[cheeser_1]

how many ****ing times are we going to have to say that?

[RetiredAt21]

I don't even know what it is about AFI that make people think they are emo.

[joebass]

I don't even know what it is about AFI that make people think they are emo.

Well Davey's vocals are pretty whiney. I heard a rumor that all of them were actually gay, I'm not trying to diss them, I actually did hear that they were all homosexuals. Is this true? If it isn't don't bag on me for dissing them or anything

[cheeser_1]

Well Davey's vocals are pretty whiney. I heard a rumor that all of them were actually gay, I'm not trying to diss them, I actually did hear that they were all homosexuals. Is this true? If it isn't don't bag on me for dissing them or anything
whiney = emo?
gay = emo?
what the hell? are you stupid or what?

[RetiredAt21]

Them being gay has nothing to do with emo. And typically, emo doesn't have "whiney" vocals.

[joebass]

Them being gay has nothing to do with emo. And typically, emo doesn't have "whiney" vocals.

Like I said, I didn't say they were emo because they were gay. I just heard from some people that they were gay. I was just wondering is that was true

[RetiredAt21]

I've only heard rumors that Davey and Jade were gay, but I dunno, probably just rumors.

[cheeser_1]

Like I said, I didn't say they were emo because they were gay. I just heard from some people that they were gay. I was just wondering is that was true

I don't even know what it is about AFI that make people think they are emo.Well Davey's vocals are pretty whiney. I heard a rumor that all of them were actually gay, I'm not trying to diss them, I actually did hear that they were all homosexuals. Is this true? If it isn't don't bag on me for dissing them or anything

it sure looked that way. anyway, rumors or not, most of the obsessed, stupid teenie boppers can tell you that they read on the VH1 webforum that some guy who knows the truth says that davey is married. which carries no weight in my mind, despite trying to sound like it has some sort of credibility. not to mention being married doesn't mean you aren't gay, and it certainly doesn't eliminate the possiblity that you're bisexual.

jade and davey are usually rumored to be gay, because of how they choose to express themselves. on the other hand, teenage girls go ga-ga over the whole band. i've never seen hard evidence either way, and it doesn't really matter a whole lot.

[El_Shiznit]

I have heard some rumors about Jade being gay which I don't think has been confronted by the band as of yet.

But Davey was rumored to be bisexual since a while ago. Not long after the rumor started floating around, Jade denied that Davey was. Don't know why Jade did it for him, but that's all the news about that I think.

Anyways, who cares?

[RetiredAt21]

I don't really care if they are gay or whatever. I'm just wondering why so many people label them as emo.

[El_Shiznit]

I wonder why people label TBS/MCR/etc. as emo.

I think maybe it's because two members wear makeup.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, my friend is thoroughly convinced that TBS are emo, no matter what I tell him.

[cheeser_1]

I think maybe it's because two members wear makeup.
omg and they wear BLACK CLOTHES!


emo is the new goth, i guess. and goth is the new emo? i don't know.
it makes me sad when people i don't like wear black and red. those are the best colors, and suckas shouldn't be usin my good colors, goddamit.

[RetiredAt21]

Do a drive-by cheeser, then you could get rid of those people.

[cheeser_1]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/cheeser1/badpeople.gif

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha, you made me rawfl. I like your crew, it's one guy and he looks really happy, hahaha.

[cheeser_1]

Hahaha, you made me rawfl. I like your crew, it's one guy and he looks really happy, hahaha.
that's johnny.

[RetiredAt21]

Johnny who?

[cheeser_1]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/member.php?u=126655
that one.

[RetiredAt21]

Ah I see, you guys look tuff.

[MinorThreat]

Let me ride in the back of your truck, that way i can throw simple plan CD's at them. but the simple plan CD's will be play themselves, thats how im going to kill the bad people.

[Flagjacket]

Or just set them on fire and leave them in the trash.

[Berserker!]

Or stfu and leave this thread to die.

[maco]

I have heard some rumors about Jade being gay which I don't think has been confronted by the band as of yet.

But Davey was rumored to be bisexual since a while ago. Not long after the rumor started floating around, Jade denied that Davey was. Don't know why Jade did it for him, but that's all the news about that I think.

Anyways, who cares?
I think Jade said it because he got pissed off and was the only one around at the time or because if Davey said it they'd all be like "stop denying it." Davey has described his "perfect girl" on the radio before. Oh, and the "Davey's married" thing came from him wearing a wedding band in one of the promo pictures. http://afireinside.net/band/promo_pic1_big.jpg and http://afireinside.net/band/promo_b&w2hres.jpg you can see it there, but it could also just be him liking to wear a lot of jewelry. As to bisexuality, totally possible. I think most people are at least slightly bisexual (not necessarily 50/50 but there's a bit of a spectrum there) and don't say so just because it's not by much. There's always the simple metro-sexual thing too though. You know, glam boys.

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, Davey and his lipstick.

[maco]

omg and they wear BLACK CLOTHES!


emo is the new goth, i guess. and goth is the new emo? i don't know.
it makes me sad when people i don't like wear black and red. those are the best colors, and suckas shouldn't be usin my good colors, goddamit.
Did you just try to say that Taking Back Sunday isn't emo, but that they're goth? ahhaa They're neither! They're basically just alternative or something

[maco]

Yeah, Davey and his lipstick.
A lot of his makeup style comes from Danzig and Robert Smith. Anything they do with makeup, he'll probably do. Remember, he was practically a Danzig-clone for about 5 years, and is now transitioning into Robert Smith (thankfully, his hair does not defy gravity though). They're his idols. "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" so to speak

[Music Nerd]

Afi are one of those bands I like ,but not love. I have Black Sails in the Sunset, Sing the Sorrow, and Shut Your Mouth Open Your Eyes. I like their earlier stuff better for sure.

[punkdrums]

"This Time Imperfect" from Sing the Sorrow is by far the best song on that album....i wonder why its only a bonus track :S

[Flagjacket]

Cause Dancing Through Sunday is great.

[maco]

psh those are both great songs, but Synesthesia and Now the World totally tie for best song on the album!

[cheeser_1]

Did you just try to say that Taking Back Sunday isn't emo, but that they're goth?
no, i was just joking. because, if you're older than about... 14 i guess.. you might remember that before emo was the thing to be, goth was. at least, in my experience. but of course, instead of emo bands we get my chemical romance, just like back then goth was apparently marilyn manson and rammstein.

[Rise Me Up]

no, i was just joking. because, if you're older than about... 14 i guess.. you might remember that before emo was the thing to be, goth was. at least, in my experience. but of course, instead of emo bands we get my chemical romance, just like back then goth was apparently marilyn manson and rammstein.


I remeber those days. I loved Rammstein. :upset:

[maco]

no, i was just joking. because, if you're older than about... 14 i guess.. you might remember that before emo was the thing to be, goth was. at least, in my experience. but of course, instead of emo bands we get my chemical romance, just like back then goth was apparently marilyn manson and rammstein.
oooo ok...I don't remember that, but whatever. I was never too good at pop culture. Rammstein is kinda fun though

[imnotamusician]

They were okay/good til they sold out.

And by 'sold out' I mean changed their sound to get on MTV, made music videos, signed a major label for money and raised ticket prices for their shows.

but they had music videos even when they werent big.
i think they had one for third season and i wanna get a mowhawk.

[imnotamusician]

i love old afi. black sails on the sunset, shut your mouth and open your eyes and all hallows e.p are all amazing. but new afi is garbage, i think

i wouldn't exactly call it garbage, just say the quality went down. both the bass and guitar riffs are still pretty good, the drums aren't that bad, you understand most of what sings davey the first time you hear him either in the old albums or new albums. look at the brightside, theyre not like any other band that have their video constantly playing either on fuse or mtv.

[maco]

but they had music videos even when they werent big.
i think they had one for third season and i wanna get a mowhawk.
Mohawk didn't have a video, but He Who Laughs Last did.

[maco]

i wouldn't exactly call it garbage, just say the quality went down. both the bass and guitar riffs are still pretty good, the drums aren't that bad, you understand most of what sings davey the first time you hear him either in the old albums or new albums. look at the brightside, theyre not like any other band that have their video constantly playing either on fuse or mtv.
the quality didn't go down, the style just changed. They started out as a generic punk band, then did some post-hardcore, then Misfits-style horror punk, and now they're in between the Misfits and the Cure. From a technical viewpoint, the music is at its best. The complexity and diversity is at its highest point thus far. Really, it's not that it's bad music, because the music is very good, but it's just not your style, which is understandable if you're into old punk and not the Cure or other 80s pop stuff and EBM and industrial and synthpop and all that other fun stuff.

[Rise Me Up]

Mohawk didn't have a video, but He Who Laughs Last did.


A video for key lime pie would've ruled.

[maco]

A video for key lime pie would've ruled.
haha that would've been really odd...i think i might make a mock-vid thing if i can figure out how...

[Rise Me Up]

haha that would've been really odd...i think i might make a mock-vid thing if i can figure out how...


Film key lime pie,but have the old original batman style things pop up and say stuff.

[maco]

i was gonna take a pic of one and have it be like dancing around and having a mouth

[Sleeper]

but they had music videos even when they werent big.
i think they had one for third season and i wanna get a mowhawk.
Third Season is a awful video, But a really good song.

[maco]

what was with the ice cream truck mutiny?

[Sleeper]

I have no idea, Thats what i didnt like about it. It didnt make any sense at all.

[cheeser_1]

haha that would've been really odd...i think i might make a mock-vid thing if i can figure out how...it could just be 2 minutes of staring at a key lime pie. that would be so artsy.

what was with the ice cream truck mutiny?the guy was charging kids too much money for ice cream because he was a jerk and had some sort of effective monopoly on the ice cream.

[maco]

but what does that have to do with the song at all? I mean, it's a song about autumn....

[cheeser_1]

but what does that have to do with the song at all? I mean, it's a song about autumn....
it's more about the transition into autumn. the changing of seasons could just as easily be a revolution, speaking figuratively.

[maco]

i suppose so

[Rise Me Up]

I HAD KEY LIME PIE TONIGHT(for thee first time) THANKS TO AFI. It ruled of course.

[ScuzzBucket89]

I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.

[Rise Me Up]

I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.


I'll upload some.

[maco]

I HAD KEY LIME PIE TONIGHT(for thee first time) THANKS TO AFI. It ruled of course.
I bought a key lime pie lollipop cuz of the song one time but i never ate it

[maco]

I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.
they're heading toward Cure and away from punk. They used to do screaming punk. They even did HC for a while

[Rise Me Up]

I'v yet to here any old afi so I won't comment, but probably the thing that makes me loathe them now is their singer. I like my punk lyrics to be be more shouted then sung. They seem to be good musicians but the singer just kills it for me. If their older stuff is sung similar to their new stuff then I'll probably dislike that too.
Listen to this.

AFI-The Prayer Position (http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1RXT9V693KM5O1ZN45WKDRCD65 )

[El_Shiznit]

the quality didn't go down, the style just changed. They started out as a generic punk band, then did some post-hardcore, then Misfits-style horror punk, and now they're in between the Misfits and the Cure. From a technical viewpoint, the music is at its best. The complexity and diversity is at its highest point thus far. Really, it's not that it's bad music, because the music is very good, but it's just not your style, which is understandable if you're into old punk and not the Cure or other 80s pop stuff and EBM and industrial and synthpop and all that other fun stuff.
What?!?!?

I don't get how everyone says they did post-hardcore in the pre-STS days. And I don't get the "horror punk" thing either.

The way I see it, they have been close to hardcore their entire career. Their earlier sound was similar to hardcore in the vein of 7 Seconds. Then they transitioned into a heavier hardcore sound. Then to melodic hardcore as I see it. And now post-hardcore. They may have sung about demons in some of their songs, but I think that in songs such as "The Nephilim" they are actually more symbolic of other things than actual monsters. And certainly they didn't base their lyrics off of horror material which doesn't warrant them the title of "horror punk".

[cheeser_1]

shizzy has it down. i wouldn't consider them horror punk in the least. they covered the misfits a couple times. so did the bouncing souls. they used a little horror punk type imagery. so do most bands, to some extent or another.

but the nephilim aren't monsters, they're real, it says so in the bible dammit.

[El_Shiznit]

shizzy has it down. i wouldn't consider them horror punk in the least. they covered the misfits a couple times. so did the bouncing souls. they used a little horror punk type imagery. so do most bands, to some extent or another.

but the nephilim aren't monsters, they're real, it says so in the bible dammit.
I think in the lyrics in that song express some of Davey's views on drugs, drinking, and why his straight edge-edness. I think he used the nephilim as a symbol, although the nephilim had been created prior to the writing of the song. I don't know what the nephilim is in the bible though. =/

I'm getting a tatoo of the nephilim really soon in between my shoulderblades. Probably in the next week. Whenever I find time.

[cheeser_1]

I think in the lyrics in that song express some of Davey's views on drugs, drinking, and why his straight edge-edness. I think he used the nephilim as a symbol, although the nephilim had been created prior to the writing of the song. I don't know what the nephilim is in the bible though. =/

I'm getting a tatoo of the nephilim really soon in between my shoulderblades. Probably in the next week. Whenever I find time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

[Music Nerd]

If anyone has thier cover of Minor Threats "No Reason" could you please post it. I would appreicate it so much. Thanks.

[Shtein]

it may be here http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349687 but i dont know for sure

[Music Nerd]

Thanks, but I searched and nothing came up. I'm pretty sure it's live.

[AGlobalChaos]

Dude, are you a ****ing cuke or something. AFI (a finger inside) is nowhere near punk.
They might have had fast beats at one point but the music as a whole was far from the punk attitude given by many great bands such as A Global Threat and Clit 45. Please, never offend our punk scene by brining in such a mainstream band to represent an underground scene.

[Rise Me Up]

Dude, are you a ****ing cuke or something. AFI (a finger inside) is nowhere near punk.
They might have had fast beats at one point but the music as a whole was far from the punk attitude given by many great bands such as A Global Threat and Clit 45. Please, never offend our punk scene by brining in such a mainstream band to represent an underground scene.



Shut the **** up twat. They were punk at a time.

[cheeser_1]

Dude, are you a ****ing cuke or something. AFI (a finger inside) is nowhere near punk.
They might have had fast beats at one point but the music as a whole was far from the punk attitude given by many great bands such as A Global Threat and Clit 45. Please, never offend our punk scene by brining in such a mainstream band to represent an underground scene.
OMG PUNKCORE TO TEH MAXX PUNXXXX UNTIE!

shut up. get a life. fucking morons.

[Rise Me Up]

. ****ing morons.


what did i do?

[El_Shiznit]

Pretty sure he wasn't referring to you, chairman.

[maco]

What?!?!?

I don't get how everyone says they did post-hardcore in the pre-STS days. And I don't get the "horror punk" thing either.

The way I see it, they have been close to hardcore their entire career. Their earlier sound was similar to hardcore in the vein of 7 Seconds. Then they transitioned into a heavier hardcore sound. Then to melodic hardcore as I see it. And now post-hardcore. They may have sung about demons in some of their songs, but I think that in songs such as "The Nephilim" they are actually more symbolic of other things than actual monsters. And certainly they didn't base their lyrics off of horror material which doesn't warrant them the title of "horror punk".
I usually go with:
ATASF-punk
VPOY-punk
SYMAOYE-post-hc (because of timing not necessarily sound)
BSITS-melodic hc
TAOD-melodic hc
STS-halfway between melodic HC and Cure-ish-ness

The "horror punk" thing was in reference to all their Misfits covers (I still cannot *stand* Demonomania) and how some of the stuff on TAOD has that horror thing going on a bit, like in Catch a Hot One and Sacrifice Theory with all the bleeding and gore in the lyrics.

[maco]

The Nephilim are the children of male angels and female humans. By having relations with humans, those angels fell and the Nephilim are known as the children of fallen angels.

[El_Shiznit]

SYMAOYE sounds like a straight up hardcore record to me. By timing, do you mean, the year of release?


I don't understand everyone's beef with "Demonomania". The song owns. Hard. Better than the Misfits version. A hardcore song with less than a minute in length. What more is there to ask?

[maco]

Yeah the year. Most hardcore is 80s so it's sort of late

And Demonomania is just like "MY FATHER'S A WOLF DEMONOMANIA! DEMONOMANIA! MY MOTHER'S A WHORE! DEMONOMANIA!" over and over and over and over and....you get it

[Music Nerd]

Yeah the year. Most hardcore is 80s so it's sort of late

And Demonomania is just like "MY FATHER'S A WOLF DEMONOMANIA! DEMONOMANIA! MY MOTHER'S A WHORE! DEMONOMANIA!" over and over and over and over and....you get it
Yeah haha. I prefer Misfits version over the AFI version.

[shamed-angel]

I prefer the AFI versions of both that and Halloween.

[maco]

I agree on Halloween, and I'll add Last Caress (that's a really good cover) but I just don't like Demonomania. Haven't heard the Misfits one yet. My friend Jorgan says it was a bad song to start with.

[El_Shiznit]

Yeah the year. Most hardcore is 80s so it's sort of late

And Demonomania is just like "MY FATHER'S A WOLF DEMONOMANIA! DEMONOMANIA! MY MOTHER'S A WHORE! DEMONOMANIA!" over and over and over and over and....you get it
Psh.... I'm listening to Suicide File right now and I gotta say, hardcore is almost as good now as it was in the 80's. Plus, the term "post-hardcore" doesn't refer to the time period. It's a totally different genre with a totally different sound.

And yeah, the lyrics aren't the best. But the song is fun. And the recording for all of the Misfits - Earth A.D. is kind of poor, and Danzig's voice isn't as good on it as the other albums. So I think AFI's version completely blows the original out of the water.

[maco]

Psh.... I'm listening to Suicide File right now and I gotta say, hardcore is almost as good now as it was in the 80's. Plus, the term "post-hardcore" doesn't refer to the time period. It's a totally different genre with a totally different sound.

And yeah, the lyrics aren't the best. But the song is fun. And the recording for all of the Misfits - Earth A.D. is kind of poor, and Danzig's voice isn't as good on it as the other albums. So I think AFI's version completely blows the original out of the water.
ah so sorry. I was under the impression that "post" was in reference to the era

[Permanent Solution]

I'm buying this (http://www.jobbedout.com/ebay/2005-01-08/100_0436.jpg) today as long as I don't get outbid :(

[maco]

If you don't get it, I think Nitro still sells it in their online store. See? (http://www.cinderblock.com/wc.dll?WebStore~ViewItem~NT~NT-101~SID=05072514002350423828) What's the curent bid? It's only $12 from Nitro.

[Music Nerd]

I agree on Halloween, and I'll add Last Caress (that's a really good cover) but I just don't like Demonomania. Haven't heard the Misfits one yet. My friend Jorgan says it was a bad song to start with.
I must admit, they do a great cover of Last Caress. And that's my favorite Misfits song.

"I Got Something to Say! I Killed a baby Today.."

[Sleeper]

I must admit, they do a great cover of Last Caress. And that's my favorite Misfits song.

"I Got Something to Say! I Killed a baby Today.."
Its your baby today.

[cheeser_1]

If you don't get it, I think Nitro still sells it in their online store. See? (http://www.cinderblock.com/wc.dll?WebStore~ViewItem~NT~NT-101~SID=05072514002350423828) What's the curent bid? It's only $12 from Nitro.i love when people sell **** on ebay that you can get for cheaper directly from the label/band. it's ludicrous.
The Nephilim are the children of male angels and female humans. By having relations with humans, those angels fell and the Nephilim are known as the children of fallen angels.yup, we got that covered quite thoroughly when i posted this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim
Pretty sure he wasn't referring to you, chairman.yeah, i was definitely referring to the other guy who said the dumb stuff.

[maco]

I keep seeing people on ebay like "Oh this is a set of 2 red vinyls in a gatefold that makes up AFI's Sing the Sorrow. It was limited to 10,000 and they were all sold out immediately" It's like, gimme a break. Yeah, they were limited, but Adeline still has a huge stock that they sell for $12 a set.

[RetiredAt21]

Almost anyone who sells anything on Ebay, will say it's "rare", because there is some idiot out there, who thinks it actually is rare.

[maco]

and then there are us smart people who look everything up on afiseries.com to see what the pressing limit was and what label released it then check out the label's site to see how much it costs from them

[alkalinesk8er]

and then there are us smart people who look everything up on afiseries.com to see what the pressing limit was and what label released it then check out the label's site to see how much it costs from them

You really like AFI don't you.

[Music Nerd]

Its your baby today.
Oh.. yes it is. Sorry, I got it confused. I always the the first verse was "A", and the second was "Your". My mistake.

[cheeser_1]

You really like AFI don't you.
well, for any band, it's a good idea to check around before you buy something expensive as "rare." i've got almost every rancid 7" and most of them cost me less than $3 (ruby soho cost me like $6 or $7).

[maco]

well, for any band, it's a good idea to check around before you buy something expensive as "rare." i've got almost every rancid 7" and most of them cost me less than $3 (ruby soho cost me like $6 or $7).
while I KNOW I could never get any of the old AFI 7"s for that little. Dork is about $2000 on ebay (there were only about 220 including test pressings and all). The GNG 7" and TLSP2 7" aren't too rare, though I don't think you can get them from the label as Dreamworks went under.

[rozz_alighieri]

One thing about afi that I love (btw I'm a deathrocker, I HATE mainstream music and trendy stuff) HOWEVER afi is different then all the other bands I've seen on mtv. They have this thing about them, if you look up all their rare songs. Such as ones you find on vinyl versions only or their Girls Not Grey uk single, those songs are by far the best stuff they come out with. And even their EPs always have something special and great about them whether it be a cover song of the cure and the 'fits or they just flat out make a kickass song like Now The World. Even how mainstream and trendy STS seemed the last song This Time Imperfect was BRILLIANT and poetic with emotional tear jerking moods. And as annoying as Davey's voice is getting the way he makes that Michael Jackson "OOHH" he makes up for it with great poetical songs with what seems to be philosophical meanings to it. Which in my opinion is far greater then any good charlotte or warped tour band out there.

[rozz_alighieri]

The Nephilim are the children of male angels and female humans. By having relations with humans, those angels fell and the Nephilim are known as the children of fallen angels.
that makes total sense and shows how they look at their fans because their fans call themselves fall children making a reference back to the meaning of nephilim..... interesting

[rozz_alighieri]

I guess the Ramones are Hella sell outs for being on Warner Bros. records.
yeah **** those pricks with their trendy jeans and wannabe pop punk cliche bull**** they think is music. they thought punk was about partying, ****ing sell out pricks. I'd rather listen to Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Dirt, or Feederz over them anyday.

[volcom5347]

I used to like Afi when they came out with Art Of Drowning. Now they suck.

[cheeser_1]

I used to like Afi when they came out with Art Of Drowning. Now they suck.
and now all you listen to is... bad merchandise?

[Bloodlust]

AFI are awsome. Imlistening to "the prayer position" right now.

[maco]

awesome song

[fuzzyhair]

totalimmortal is one of my favorite songs by them.

[Tjebby]

Days Of The Phoenix is one of my Favorites. Girls Not Grey, I Want A Mohawk, He Who Laughs Last.

[maco]

If I hadn't seen the DOTP music video, I would never have bought an AFI cd. My brother was showing me the TLSP2 video to explain why a kid named Dale wore vinyl pants and tried to jump and kick at a show when he went onstage (with 2 "borrowed" clueless instrumentalists because his bandmates quit on him) and after the video ended, DOTP's video came on. That song is what jumped them from "pretty good" to "awesome" in my mind, so TAOD was my first bought AFI cd (I had a burnt STS)

[El_Shiznit]

Death of Seasons was the song that changed my opinion of them. But either The Prayer Position or Days Of The Phoenix was the first song I could call my favorite of theirs.

[fatwreckpunk]

i wonder when they will be touring uk

[maco]

i wonder when they will be touring uk
They are recording a new album. Adam's drum tracking is done. Jade is tracking guitars. Next, Hunter will track bass. Then, Davey will sing. Then, it will be mixed. Then a single will be released. Then, the album will be released. Then, they will go on tour in the US. Then they will tour the UK and the rest of Europe/the world.

[Oz Rembrandt]

Man I'd love to see them live...

[Rise Me Up]

Man I'd love to see them live...


123. I'd love to've seen them after the release of Black Sails.

[Gnarmageddon]

I missed them at Warped '03 and I will hate myself forever for it. Chances are slim that they'll come near me when they tour.

[Rise Me Up]

I missed them at Warped '03 and I will hate myself forever for it. Chances are slim that they'll come near me when they tour.


My brother saw them. He said it was the best show he's ever saw at Warped Tour. :upset:

[maco]

123. I'd love to've seen them after the release of Black Sails.
definitely. that would've been so awesome. I doubt any of will ever get to go to one of their shows in the future where they do the "old chant" instead of the "new chant"

[Rise Me Up]

definitely. that would've been so awesome. I doubt any of will ever get to go to one of their shows in the future where they do the "old chant" instead of the "new chant"


Yeah. It makes me sad. :upset:

[RobNY]

Alright guys.

I don't ususally listen to anything that could be even closely categorized with AFI, but I'm starting to really get sucked into their music. My first encounter with them was on STS, but I've been listening to bunches of songs from some of their other albums (Totalimmortal, The Boy Who Destroyed the World, DoTP, Halloween (a cover, right?), Now the World, The Despair Factor-- and I just heard the Prayer Position, which was excellent). Which album should I get. I mean, from what I've been reading, most people say to go to Black Sails or Art of Drowning next, but I'm not sure. (All Hallows looks concise but excellent, as well, being that I've heard three of four, hehe.)\

So, yeah, what next? Your opinion will be, er, appreciated. :thumb:

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I only like 'The Lost Souls'. Thats a cool song.

[El_Shiznit]

123. I'd love to've seen them after the release of Black Sails.
I sometimes dream about being at a show they played after the release of SYMAOYE. Specifically the one the pictures from the A Fire Inside EP were taken at. No stage. Perfect.



So, yeah, what next? Your opinion will be, er, appreciated. :thumb:
I would say work backwards. Art Of Drowning > All Hallows EP > Black Sails and so on.

[VanitysNewGun]

AFI, I like 'em...one of my top 5 bands probably...Davey writes some amazing lyrics and as someone who writes poetry I respect that.

[imnotamusician]

if you live in berkely, maybe you can see them playing at a cafe. davey did a show with the nerve agents in a going away party for some dude in a cafe. or even see them walking around rasputin.

[Sleeper]

I only like 'The Lost Souls'. Thats a cool song.
That was my first favorite AFI song.

[maco]

I sometimes dream about being at a show they played after the release of SYMAOYE. Specifically the one the pictures from the A Fire Inside EP were taken at. No stage. Perfect.

I would say work backwards. Art Of Drowning > All Hallows EP > Black Sails and so on.
I don't know that I've ever been to a stageless show...I think when I have they put a little mock-up riser for the band. Oh wait, there was one...it was bad though....very tiny benefit show

That's what I did. Actually, I got TAOD before STS even though STS had already been released :-P

[Black Negro Guy]

yo dat singer for afi, that chick wit da black hair.. shes kinda hot, a bit flat though.. id def hit dat ****, yall know what i mean.

[shane italian]

Davey lives in Hollywood now so I doubt you will randomly see him in Rasputin.

[hethamulburton]

yo dat singer for afi, that chick wit da black hair.. shes kinda hot, a bit flat though.. id def hit dat ****, yall know what i mean.

That is some funny ****, :lol: .

[cheeser_1]

That is some funny ****, :lol: .
no, that's a stupid rephrasing of a somewhat funny joke he stole from the webcomic Nothing Nice to Say.

[I Wish to remain unnamed]

I agree with the people who said sing the sorrow was a disapointment. I like Answer that and stay fashionable best.

[Bloodlust]

i like black sails in the sunset the best.

The prayer position is an awsome song.

[fluxofpinkmexicans]

afi is in no way punk and in every way gay, get out of my genre!

[Berserker!]

afi is in no way punk and in every way gay, get out of my genre!

Get out of my forum.

[cheeser_1]

Get out of my forum.
yeah, get out of his forum.

[shane italian]

I met Davey tonight if anyone cares.

[Rise Me Up]

I met Davey tonight if anyone cares.


Details,my brother,details.

[shane italian]

He likes to chill with an aquantance[sp?] of mine.

[maco]

He likes to chill with an aquantance[sp?] of mine.
that's not detailed


acquaintance

[Brain Toad]

I'm starting to warm up to them. I used to hate them when this kid who was in love with them would tell me to listen to them and they weren't good. But I've listened to Black Sails and All Hollows EP and I've liked what I've heard.

[Brain Toad]

Their cover of Halloween is also miles better than the orginal.

[Oz Rembrandt]

I havnt heard it...

I do have Their covers of Last Caress (the Misfits) and the Hanging Garden (The Cure). Neither are better than the original, but they're still pretty **** good.

[Rise Me Up]

Their cover of Halloween is also miles better than the orginal.

Yes,so are the rest of their covers.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

God called in sick today is their best song imo.