The Trivium Thread, Bitches

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Lol, now that is some funny sh1t.

[FlyingPaul_83]

those interpretations are great.


LAWL! :lol:

[MRDuCran]

Rain is a pretty difficult song I tell ya. That gallop pattern thing that Corey plays is woah. I'm trying to record it now and I wish I had practised it before hand that's for sure. :upset:

[Insipid2000]

Rains a great song, I know this is probably been asked before but when is The Crusade going to be released?

[MRDuCran]

October.

[Prince Charming]

Rain is a pretty difficult song I tell ya. That gallop pattern thing that Corey plays is woah. I'm trying to record it now and I wish I had practised it before hand that's for sure. :upset:
Don't make Trivium sound better than they are. Corey can't play live , at all.

Yeah. That interp of trivum is quite funny.

[MRDuCran]

Well trying to play what he does on the album is very hard. Also considering they literally play that song at about 230 bpm live when it's at around 210 makes it even harder. There's a video of it on their bonus DVD, or youtube.

[Prince Charming]

Well trying to play what he does on the album is very hard. Also considering they literally play that song at about 230 bpm live when it's at around 210 makes it even harder. There's a video of it on their bonus DVD, or youtube.
I'm pretty sure I remember it being played at my CoB show last fall when they played an opening set.

I'm actually going to try that sometime to see, because I can't think of any Trivium that's ultra hard.

[InDeep]

Im not a trivium fan, I bought ascendancy when it first came out and didnt mind it, but it all sounded the same to me.
Im not gonna deny they are talented musicians, but one thing that really peeved me off was when Matt Heafy said
"What Metallica achieved in five albums, we're going to achieve in two."

Pah Matt Heafy I'd like to point something out, its not the 80's anymore mate.

[MRDuCran]

I think it'd be easier for us all if you just didn't post if you don't like them.

I'm actually going to try that sometime to see, because I can't think of any Trivium that's ultra hard.

I've found it's all in the picking. The left hand stuff is pretty simple and no crazy stretches or anything but the rhythms they use can get tricky, plus they downpick alot which makes it harder. That main bit in Like Light to the Flies is all downpicked.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

"What Metallica achieved in five albums, we're going to achieve in two."

I like Trivium, but Heafy is a fuking faggot douche bag.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

i cant believe u cant cuss on this site that is the dumbest sh1t.

[Endless Obsession]

Trivium, one of my favorite bands, but cant possibly put on a good live show because Matt doesnt or cant scream anymore, and it just ruins it. I was so dissapointed I never got a chance to see them live when he did scream.

[MRDuCran]

Trivium, one of my favorite bands, but cant possibly put on a good live show because Matt doesnt or cant scream anymore, and it just ruins it. I was so dissapointed I never got a chance to see them live when he did scream.

I think the new songs are ruined by the claen voice also, especially since I've only ever heard them screamed, then he stops and it sucks. Stuff like Rain, Like Light to the Files, Pull Harder, Gunshot etc all need the screams to sound anything like they do on the records.

[RosettaStoned]

These guys aren't necassarily my favourite band but I do like them.

I actually prefer the clean voice, and the highlight in the songs for me are the chorus'.

[Interviewer/surveyer]

Im not a trivium fan, I bought ascendancy when it first came out and didnt mind it, but it all sounded the same to me.
Im not gonna deny they are talented musicians, but one thing that really peeved me off was when Matt Heafy said
"What Metallica achieved in five albums, we're going to achieve in two."

Pah Matt Heafy I'd like to point something out, its not the 80's anymore mate.
so hes basically saying that he can't create anything original so he has to copy Metallica. meh, whatever, they're just joining the likes of Avenged Sevenfold and Shadowsfall and most bands today.

[Moses]

I don't really think they're that talented but I do have a softspot for their poppy stuff like, Dying in Your Arms.

That interpretation of Pull Harder... on Youtube is brilliant though.

[Prince Charming]

Im not a trivium fan, I bought ascendancy when it first came out and didnt mind it, but it all sounded the same to me.
Im not gonna deny they are talented musicians, but one thing that really peeved me off was when Matt Heafy said
"What Metallica achieved in five albums, we're going to achieve in two."

Pah Matt Heafy I'd like to point something out, its not the 80's anymore mate.
Exactly.

@ Mitch. stfu. You're musical knowledge is draining before your very eyes.

@ Moses. Exactly. Yeah it's brilliant. Dying In My Arms isn't bad, but withstandable. Pull Harder is the only one I still like.

[Crysiss]

The lyrics are awful cliche though, it bugs me. Still, a nice track to listen to.

My bro is playing Pull Harder at the festival hes playing:) I keep telling him to play original material, but I unno. Hes just gay. He only plays covers.

[Prince Charming]

The lyrics are awful cliche though, it bugs me. Still, a nice track to listen to.

My bro is playing Pull Harder at the festival hes playing:) I keep telling him to play original material, but I unno. Hes just gay. He only plays covers.
Covers can be good. If people know/like and you play it well.

[Crysiss]

Well yea. But not when you play covers year after year. I just dont see my brothers band as serious musicians.

[Prince Charming]

Well yea. But not when you play covers year after year. I just dont see my brothers band as serious musicians.
Ahh. More cover song garage band than writing songs/making music?

[Crysiss]

yep. I've yet to see them do their own material. They play the yearly festival over here, one of the 'popular bands' hahaha.

[Prince Charming]

yep. I've yet to see them do their own material. They play the yearly festival over here, one of the 'popular bands' hahaha.
haha. Nice. It prolly gets em chicks though.

[Crysiss]

Yea, Shaun(Bass) is a he-bitch. My bro has 5 kids though lol.

[Prince Charming]

Yea, Shaun(Bass) is a he-bitch. My bro has 5 kids though lol.
Man. Learn to wear a rubber. :smash:

[Crysiss]

:lol: I dont think Ive ever asked him if he uses them.

[MRDuCran]

@ Mitch. stfu. You're musical knowledge is draining before your very eyes.



It would be worse if I denyed it. Fact is, they can play rhythm well, whether Trivium haters like it or not.

Please leave. Spam isn't welcome in serious discussion sub forums.

You should remeber this, we all know you dislike them alot.

[Prince Charming]

It would be worse if I denyed it. Fact is, they can play rhythm well, whether Trivium haters like it or not.



You should remeber this, we all know you dislike them alot.
Alright.

Just because I don't like them, doesn't mean I'm not allowed to engage in constructive posting here.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah I know but all you ever do is bitch about how sloppy they are and how much better other bands are lol.

[Prince Charming]

Yeah I know but all you ever do is bitch about how sloppy they are and how much better other bands are lol.
They are sloppy. I've seen them live, you havn't.

/end

[MRDuCran]

lol I've seen them live twice.

pwn'd. :smash:

[Prince Charming]

lol I've seen them live twice.

pwn'd. :smash:
Not really.

[MRDuCran]

Yer. You said I haven't, when I fact I beat that, I have...twice!! omgz.

There's a video thing on youtube where Corey does this downpicking thing that's pretty fast, then he stops and does a gallop and gets pretty quick with that too. Fast than what I can do, that's for sure.

[adamstartin]

Anyone heard the new preview song from the crusade? Its very untriviumish, not my cup of tea really http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/shared/downloads/trivium/detonation037464522.mp3

[Forlorn Hope]

I like it alright. It's nice to hear the album version :) Much much better than the live one. You can actually hear all the harmonies and everything. The song gets best towards the end I think.

[Shattered_Future]

Dude, that sounds like a horrible Metallica cover. It's simplistic, boring, and Heafy's voice is as bad as ever.

Yet somehow, it's still quite a bit better than the other stuff they've released.

[MRDuCran]

I think most of it is pretty boring except for the section starting at 2:27, I really like that bit.

[VomitStainedCretin]

I think the intro is kinda bad, but the solo and what follows is good. I like how the song structure isnt the same as that on Ascendency. The lyrics are fairly cheesy though. Overall, if this is a reflection of the whole album, it wont surpass Ascendancy or Ember To Inferno, but it will be reasonably good.

[Nepenthe]

I don't think it's half bad.

[AA-12]

Listening now...

EDIT: This is pretty good. Way better than the old utter crap they put out.

[Mikesn]

I like it. I prefer the first half of the song, but it's still pretty good.

[Po0sH]

This is good, way better than their old stuff. I especially like how they don't follow that Verse/chorus/verse/chorus etc structure that they did for pretty much a lot of their songs like they used to. The variety in this song is good. If the rest of the album is like this song, then damn, they are gonna explode.



EDIT: One thing that bugs me is Matt's solo, the last one. That is the most boring solo ever. A run, sweeping, same run except like 1 note diff, then same sweep. Wow, that sucks. Corey's solo was way better.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Yeah, the predictable structure on Ascendancy annoyed me too.

[Huber]

Wow, the studio version of this is 10 times better.

My buddies wont shut up about Matt and auto-tuning, do you guys think he auto tunes a lot?

[Britton]

I'm loving that new song!


it's awesome metal

[Poe350]

Wow, the studio version of this is 10 times better.

My buddies wont shut up about Matt and auto-tuning, do you guys think he auto tunes a lot?
What's autotuning?

[Huber]

What's autotuning?

It's like programming a voice. Take Paris Hilton for example. I garuantee you all she did was talk into a microphone and with some autotuning made it into singing. It's obvious on the Like Light To Flies video. The clean singing sounds really computer generated.

I don't think he does post-demo though.

[Britton]

What's autotuning?


It's where Pro tools fixes your mistakes...


for instance

if you sing and your voice is slightly flat then it can raise the pitch and correct your mistake.

at least that's how it was explained to me. Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not entirely sure about this

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

They ripped off Metallica way too hardcore for my liking on this song.

[guitarist.kid]

I like this song but I'm missing Matt's voice on Ascendency. But the song is good but I hope there are better songs on the album.

[AA-12]

They ripped off Metallica way too hardcore for my liking on this song.
Eh, this sounds nothing at all like Metallica man. :-\

[Huber]

I think the beginning sounds a bit like Slayer, and the latter half sounds...well like Trivium.

[Shattered_Future]

Wow, the studio version of this is 10 times better.

My buddies wont shut up about Matt and auto-tuning, do you guys think he auto tunes a lot?

I think he does. From what I've heard, his singing voice live is REALLY poor...

I think it sounds a little bit like Metallica in the intro, just dumbed down horribly.

[MRDuCran]

It really does sound like a huge Metallica rip off. That first first and the way he sings it sounds like something off of Master of Puppets.

[Deadsy]

I really like the music, and liked the band overall just the way they were. I didn't dislike anything about them or any song they wrote. Now all the sudden they start wearing tight leather pants and cut off sleeves and Heafy grew his hair out which looks pretty ridiculous. I could deal with that but then they took it further and signed a deal with Dean Guitars... I ****ing hate Deans and everything about them. They look so retarded and turned Trivium's appearance to ****. I liked them when they wore T-shirts and khaki shorts and played Gibson/Jackson guitars. Now they change their vocals to sound like Hetfield which is definitely not what you want to be singing like. Trivium is heading in a terrible direction and I hope they cut the **** soon and stop acting like a 80's band.

[Drunken Vikings]

I just saw these guys on SOTU, they were pretty bad. The vocals didn't match up well with the new songs, they did a MoP cover, but I don't like Metallica so I'm kinda biased against it. They were really not on, the harmonized solo for A Gunshot To The Head of Trepidation was really off, they were both out of time or sync if you will with each other. And Paolo sounded horrible on PHOTSOYM for the chorus. :( I was kinda looking forward to them to, I liked a few songs from Ascendancy but they really butchered em live.

[Huber]

I think he does. From what I've heard, his singing voice live is REALLY poor...

I think it sounds a little bit like Metallica in the intro, just dumbed down horribly.

I've seen them three times, and the second time was around January '06 on the In Flames tour (which suspiciously is the tour no one ever uses as an example for there live show) and he sounded spot on. The whole band did.

I saw them again last Friday and they sound very tight still, but of course Matt can't scream anymore. However, there really using a good vocal harmonising thing with Corey and Matt more often. Paulo also handles a lot o singing hamonised with Matt also. It actually sounds really good. This style worked especially well for the song Ember to Inferno I thought.

The first time I saw them was Ozzfest 05, and they sounded meh...they werent bad or anything but they just weren't near as tight as they are now.

I don't think he autotunes anymore. But jeeze, the demo version of Like Light To Flies sounds so autotuned on the clean parts it's sickening.


I just saw these guys on SOTU, they were pretty bad. The vocals didn't match up well with the new songs, they did a MoP cover, but I don't like Metallica so I'm kinda biased against it. They were really not on, the harmonized solo for A Gunshot To The Head of Trepidation was really off, they were both out of time or sync if you will with each other. And Paolo sounded horrible on PHOTSOYM for the chorus. I was kinda looking forward to them to, I liked a few songs from Ascendancy but they really butchered em live.


Seriously? All this sounded great to me.

[run don't walk]

I liked the second half of thier new song better than the first half. I wish the vocals would sound more original though, but overall it was okay.

[Poe350]

It's like programming a voice. Take Paris Hilton for example. I garuantee you all she did was talk into a microphone and with some autotuning made it into singing. It's obvious on the Like Light To Flies video. The clean singing sounds really computer generated.

I don't think he does post-demo though.
Thanks, that what I figured, but I wasn't sure. :thumb:

[Prince Charming]

I just saw these guys on SOTU, they were pretty bad. The vocals didn't match up well with the new songs, they did a MoP cover, but I don't like Metallica so I'm kinda biased against it. They were really not on, the harmonized solo for A Gunshot To The Head of Trepidation was really off, they were both out of time or sync if you will with each other. And Paolo sounded horrible on PHOTSOYM for the chorus. :( I was kinda looking forward to them to, I liked a few songs from Ascendancy but they really butchered em live.
Sounds exactly like the mess they did opening for CoB last fall.

If you guys wanna yell @ Paolo on AIM, SchpincPimper2K

[Drunken Viking]

He blocked me for calling Matt a sloppy, fat, stuck up asshole. :(

[Prince Charming]

He blocked me for calling Matt a sloppy, fat, stuck spatula. :(
hahahhahahahahahaha. /props
yeah. They were outta timing on that dual solo when I saw them as well. Now that autotuning was mentioned, I agree with it.

[Huber]

I don't think he autotunes anymore

I clearly remember seeing them twice when the dual solo was spot on. I wish I could ignore this thread, but it bothers me so much that I've seen Trivium 3 times, all 3 great ****ing shows, and all I hear is bad things about them. Uhhhhggggghhh

[Drunken Viking]

You could ignore it, but you don't want to.

[Huber]

You could ignore it, but you don't want to.

I didn't mean that I couldn't use some kind of ignore function to do it, because I'm sure I can, but gahh. It's so frustrating.

[Prince Charming]

You could ignore it, but you don't want to.
Exactly. He's just denying because he's a fan. We all do with some things.

I remember going into that show a trivium fan. It wasn't like I had some vendetta against them.

[Drunken Viking]

I still kinda like Trivium in the studio. AGTTHOT is a good song, and so is PHOTSOYM, but besides that I can't get into them mainly due to the vocals, and it all sounding the same.

[Prince Charming]

I still kinda like Trivium in the studio. AGTTHOT is a good song, and so is PHOTSOYM, but besides that I can't get into them mainly due to the vocals, and it all sounding the same.
I agree.

[Drunken Viking]

:lol:

[Prince Charming]

:lol:
^^ don'tz lyk spam ITT kkthx lololbai

Has anyone ever read Corey's wikipedia article? It's funny.

[Huber]

Exactly. He's just denying because he's a fan. We all do with some things.

I remember going into that show a trivium fan. It wasn't like I had some vendetta against them.

Meh, I'm not denying anything. Some of it is objective. I could understand being turned off by the vocals. But aside from the first time I saw them (when there solos were pretty sloppy) the other two times the guitar solos, including the dual in Gunshot sounded fine. I do wish Matt would stop adding random whammy bar squeals out of no where though.

[SimonCore]

So we can download Detonation at the end of the month! I really like it from the live version at Rock AM, i can really imagine what's it's going to be like in the studio. Really good!

[MRDuCran]

So we can download Detonation at the end of the month! I really like it from the live version at Rock AM, i can really imagine what's it's going to be like in the studio. Really good!

It's already been released.

[Volta]

I bought Ember to Inferno today and I've had the Special Edition of Ascendancy for a while, can't wait for the Crusade.

[Drunken Viking]

^^ don'tz lyk spam ITT kkthx lololbai

Has anyone ever read Corey's wikipedia article? It's funny.
From Matt's article. Heafy confesses that his next project would be to start a black metal band, but not for some time. DragonForce guitarist Herman Li recently accused Trivium of "playing like a bunch of fifteen year olds"
:lol: Black Metal right.

[Insipid2000]

Well, Heafy is into BM and I have seen him wearing Emperor and Darkthrone Tshirts but I could not see heafy doing BM.

[Luc214]

**** Trivium. That is all.

Trivium is trivial.

[Huber]

On a better note, how good is Capharnaum? I think very.

[Drunken Viking]

Better without the vocals.

[DanD]

Capharnaum is way better than Trivium

[Mekkalayakay]

I second this. Or more like 10,000th this. =/

[jaymz_is_god]

Detonation is an absolutely horrible song. I pray the rest of the new album is better than this.

[SimonCore]

Is Detonation the only song we can download?

[Drunken Viking]

Yes.

[Crysiss]

Sucks. I hope we can live up to Paolos words:rolleyes:

EDIT: Maybe we can find a leak?

[MRDuCran]

What has Paolo said?

[Drunken Viking]

Probably something about how awesomely awesome the album will be.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah I guess, a band isn't exactly going to bash their new album lol

I think it's pretty cool that normal people on a forum like this can talk to a normal guy that plays bass (over AIM) and is in a band called Trivium and then after a few years on the main stage of Download Festival standing next to Metallica. They must be ****ing loving how far they've came. I know I would.

[Drunken Viking]

Yeah, just don't ever EVER call him or Matt sloppy, he starts to get really defensive really quickly.

[MRDuCran]

I can imagine, so would I if I put all my time and effort into practising and then get told it's rubbish.

Matt and Corey are sloppy at times, can't really hear the bass too well and Travis always seems to be on top form. Plus, I don't have AIM.

[Drunken Viking]

Yeah, but he can't tell when your just pulling his leg though. I was like when I saw you guys live Matt missed the G# note when he was playing augmented 3rd triad (which makes no sense) and he was just getting all defensive live yeah, well I bet you suck live you idiot. After that I figured he wouldn't get any jokes so I just started with Matt and Corey are some of the sloppiest guitar players on the face of the planet live, and you sound like a 12 year old bitch. And not soon after he blocked me.

[Forlorn Hope]

Yeah, but he can't tell when your just pulling his leg though. I was like when I saw you guys live Matt missed the G# note when he was playing augmented 3rd triad (which makes no sense) and he was just getting all defensive live yeah, well I bet you suck live you idiot. After that I figured he wouldn't get any jokes so I just started with Matt and Corey are some of the sloppiest guitar players on the face of the planet live, and you sound like a 12 year old bitch. And not soon after he blocked me.
lol I can see why. I'm sure he gets so defensive because there are probably 71326498172346 Trivium haters that add him just to trouble him. And probably 456234563 people that just tell him how they are Trivium's biggest fan etc. That sort of thing can probably get old pretty fast for them. Which is probably why people seem to think hes a complete douche, even though in reality he could be a really nice person.

[Drunken Viking]

I still say he sounds like a 12 year old bitch live :p How did people find his SN in the first place, I doubt he just said my AIM name is this message me!

[Huber]

Paulo a douche? Not even guys. When I met Trivium to have them sign stuff at SOTU Travis and Matt seemed kinda smug which bothered me, but Corey and Paulo were super cool and actually talked to you. Especially Paulo.

[Britton]

When i met them they were great! yes they are a little sloppy live but that's expected. Look at Slayer when they were that age...they were just as sloppy. Metallica sucked at that age. and Dave mustaine...well he pretty much sucked too.

This is a great band. the new album is gonna sound a lot like Metallica...but there really isn't anything wrong with that (in my opinion)


/spawns a page of lame internet arguement...

that or gets ignored

[Drunken Viking]

Look at Iron Maiden, at that age they were spactacular live. Look at Black Sabbath they were great to. Their age shouldn't matter, if they can play the parts on the album fine they should be able to transfer that over to live.

I hope that Detonation isn't like the new record, that that song was not a good indication of them. I'd rather listen to a new and unique band, not a crappy Metallica rip-off.

[Prince Charming]

Probably something about how awesomely awesome the album will be.
Yeah. Pretty much.


I still say he sounds like a 12 year old bitch live How did people find his SN in the first place, I doubt he just said my AIM name is this message me!

It was on his myspace.

[Britton]

Look at Iron Maiden, at that age they were spactacular live. Look at Black Sabbath they were great to. Their age shouldn't matter, if they can play the parts on the album fine they should be able to transfer that over to live.

I hope that Detonation isn't like the new record, that that song was not a good indication of them. I'd rather listen to a new and unique band, not a crappy Metallica rip-off.



Well...I see what you are saying...which unfortunatly prolly means you won't listen to them anymore. I do think this new album will sound a lot like Tallica's MOP album.


But oh well

[Arucard]

Trivium need to get over Metallica and start listening to some real metal :\

And oh my just heard the new track. Terrible. Could they try to sound more like Metallica if they tried? I don't think so.

[Deadsy]

I can't stand Paulo, he has no clue about anything. He just tries to act all sweet and metal to fit in. He can barely hold his bass because he's such a short little muff. I liked their old bass player much more. It looks like Trivium are getting all caught up into the "be as metal as you can" thing and I'm not digging it one bit.

[Leper Messiah]

I think that's the lead guitarist you're talkin' about, dude :lol: he's the only one with long hair in the band. Ascendancy, to me, was Trivium's equivalent to "Ride The Lightning". You know, letting everyone in the music industry know "this is who we are, this is what we do and we do it damn good".

are you trying to say the album Ascendancy is just as good as Ride The Lightning ? :amaze:

[Huber]

are you trying to say the album Ascendancy is just as good as Ride The Lightning ? :amaze:

I think he meant it did the same thing for Trivium as it did for Metallica.

[MRDuCran]

Regardless of how good people think Trivium are, there's no denying that they've got pretty huge over the last year, pretty much everyone knows about them or has heard of them one way or another.

[Crysiss]

I can't stand Paulo, he has no clue about anything. He just tries to act all sweet and metal to fit in. He can barely hold his bass because he's such a short little muff. I liked their old bass player much more. It looks like Trivium are getting all caught up into the "be as metal as you can" thing and I'm not digging it one bit.

I cant stand him either...

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Yeah, Trivium thinks they are so badass and that theyre the best band in the world. I cant stand that bullsh1t.

[Leper Messiah]

I think he meant it did the same thing for Trivium as it did for Metallica.

oh okay thank you

[loathed]

After hearing the new song, I have a feeling their new album is going to **** *** balls...sorry :rolleyes:

[Surtr]

Just finished downloading the Ascendancy album, and in a few I'll give it a check. :thumb:

[KillemAllforOne83]

I don;'t know if this is has been posted but here's another song of the crusade and man, does it ever kick ***. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULAP53XY2lk

[Drunken Viking]

Man I do not envy whoever was at that concert. Haha but seriously, I prefer the majority of Ascendancy over that (and by that I mean one song, since it's all samey).

[Blackest_Eyes]

I liked Trivium's first two albums. But after hearing Detonation, I really don't think I will be picking up "The Crusade". The music is okay, I guess....but it sounds like Matt is trying way to hard to be James Hetfield.

[KillemAllforOne83]

http://www.myspace.com/trivium
New song, Anthem, sounds pretty cool.

[MegaMustaine]

I liked Trivium's first two albums. But after hearing Detonation, I really don't think I will be picking up "The Crusade". The music is okay, I guess....but it sounds like Matt is trying way to hard to be James Hetfield.

Agreed. I didn't like them before, and now it just sounds like they are trying to hard to be something else.

[Spoonful of Shame]

What ever little respect I had for Trivium is gone after listening to those two new songs.

[Full Metal Racket]

I really like Detonation, andEntrance...., but Anthem, hhm.... I don't
dislike it, but I think it's mediocre compared to what they have produced previously and what i'm sure they are capable of. Also i brought Ember to Inferno the other day and am really loving, I think it's a really strong album.

[Nepenthe]

Oh you guys are all just jumpers on the 'Hate Trivium' bandwagon. I think their new songs are the best music they've put out.

Two questions for the above posters: 1. Have you ever heard the word change? Seriously, you guys are just looking for a reason to bash them, whether it's the their old sound, or how gay they are for changing to a different one. 2. Please tell me what it is they are trying to sound like? I will personally assassinate anyone who says Anthem bears a resemblance to Metallica.

All in all, you guys are just retards looking for a reason to hate on them. They used to be a decent band, and everyone hated on them, now they are a pretty good band, and everyone hates on them for changing their sound, yet the same people still continue to hate on their old sound. Here's a thought, think for yourself and stop posting ridiculous crap because that's what everyone else is doing.

[Full Metal Racket]

Oh you guys are all just jumpers on the 'Hate Trivium' bandwagon. I think their new songs are the best music they've put out.

Two questions for the above posters: 1. Have you ever heard the word change? Seriously, you guys are just looking for a reason to bash them, whether it's the their old sound, or how gay they are for changing to a different one. 2. Please tell me what it is they are trying to sound like? I will personally assassinate anyone who says Anthem bears a resemblance to Metallica.


I'm sorry, but if I am included as one of those above posters, did you read what I posted properly? Concerning their change of sound, I said that I really like Detonation, and Entrance of the Conflagration. Also, I did not say that Anthem was a bad song, just mediocre by Trivium's standards (and it doesn't remind me of Metallica, it sounds like big 80's stadium rock/metal to me).
And i'm not on the "hate Trivium" bandwagon at all, they are my favourite new band (as in, new generation of bands).
Personally, I think their new sound is great, and I will be buying The crusade when released.

[Nepenthe]

Actually, you were the only one I wasn't referring to haha.

[Full Metal Racket]

Oshi, sorry man, I was just like "argh, wtf"? because I pretty much agree with what you said about their new direction and such. Apologies for my misunderstanding.

[Drunken Viking]

Oh you guys are all just jumpers on the 'Hate Trivium' bandwagon. I think their new songs are the best music they've put out.

Two questions for the above posters: 1. Have you ever heard the word change? Seriously, you guys are just looking for a reason to bash them, whether it's the their old sound, or how gay they are for changing to a different one. 2. Please tell me what it is they are trying to sound like? I will personally assassinate anyone who says Anthem bears a resemblance to Metallica.

1.Ive heard the word change, I love Avenged Sevenfold don't I. I'm not looking for a reason to bash them, on Ascendancy a lot of the riffs sound incredibly samey, and I just hate, HATE the vocals.
2. Listen to Detonation and tell me that the first half doesn't sound exactly like Metallica, even the vocals sound reminiscent of Hetfield.

All in all, you guys are just retards looking for a reason to hate on them. They used to be a decent band, and everyone hated on them, now they are a pretty good band, and everyone hates on them for changing their sound, yet the same people still continue to hate on their old sound. Here's a thought, think for yourself and stop posting ridiculous crap because that's what everyone else is doing.
Here's a thought, maybe people don't enjoy their music. I know crazy but it's true. In your eyes they used to be decent, in mine they were average, maybe a little below, now I think they're even worse. They sound exactly like a Metallica clone, almost everyone who hated them wanted them to change, before I and many others first heard Detonation we had very high hopes for "The Crusade", but now I'm really not that excited.

[Nepenthe]

Ok, please explain to me how you can say they sound like Metallica after only hearing two songs off of the album, 1 and a half of which don't bear a slight semblance to any material Metallica has EVER done.

[Drunken Viking]

I clearly said that Detonation sounds like Metallica. Listen to Master of Puppets and then Detonation, they sound like they could be on the same album.

[Nepenthe]

No, you said the first half of Detonation sounded like Metallica. The second half sounds nothing like Metallica, and Anthem's sound is farther away from Metallica than Ascendancy was. Oh yeah, and there's like, you know, the rest of the ****ing album, which you haven't even heard.

[Huber]

I clearly said that Detonation sounds like Metallica. Listen to Master of Puppets and then Detonation, they sound like they could be on the same album.

You know, it's fine that you guys dislike Trivium. That's fair. No one can say what you like or do not like. But no one can deny that all over the place Trivium is recieving the same bashing, and it's annoying as ****, so how about leaving the Trivium thread to their fans? The name Trivium shouldn't be looked down upon in there own ****ing thread. Sometimes an opposing view can be interesting, but there isn't a consistent two pages in this thread without someone giving Trivium a hard time, and it's especially annoying when the point is you simply don't like them and there isn't much to argue. Most of us all agree they are going for a Metallica sound. Some people like that, me for one, but if you don't that's fantastic. We've heard it from all of you so much, lets ****ing drop it and let this thread be a good one, alright?

edit:

Just listened to Anthem. That's a fine fine solo if you ask me.

[Nepenthe]

You know, it's fine that you guys dislike Trivium. That's fair. No one can say what you like or do not like. But no one can deny that all over the place Trivium is recieving the same bashing, and it's annoying as ****, so how about leaving the Trivium thread to their fans? The name Trivium shouldn't be looked down upon in there own ****ing thread. Sometimes an opposing view can be interesting, but there isn't a consistent two pages in this thread without someone giving Trivium a hard time, and it's especially annoying when the point is you simply don't like them and there isn't much to argue. Most of us all agree they are going for a Metallica sound. Some people like that, me for one, but if you don't that's fantastic. We've heard it from all of you so much, lets ****ing drop it and let this thread be a good one, alright?

edit:

Just listened to Anthem. That's a fine fine solo if you ask me.

Exactly. This thread has just turned into a 'Bash Trivium's old sound and bash them for changing it' party.

[Drunken Viking]

This is a Trivium thread, not a only fans of Trvium and noone else. This is a forum, made for the discussion of opinions. If everyone has the same opinion then it's not really a discussion of opinions. If you can't deal with other people not liking a band get over it or leave. Besides, it's not like we are being idiots, we're backing up our opinions. Also, there wouldn't be pages of just that if you guys (fans of Trivium) would actually have a discussion, instead of saying this is a Trivium thread for only fans, or saying you're only looking for reasons to hate them. Other bands get the same **** these guys do, but funny you guys don't seem to care about it unless it's a band you really care about.

[Nepenthe]

Actually, I'm not even a big Trivium fan, I'm just tired of the senseless idiotic bashing. And no, you're doing no backing up of any kind, you still haven't told me how you figure The Crusade sounds like Metallica based on half of one of two songs sounding like them.

[Drunken Viking]

For the last time, I didn't say that The Crusade sounded like Metallica, I haven't heard the majority of it, I said that DETONATION sounds like them, because imo it does. And I do back up my statments, remember this post? 1.Ive heard the word change, I love Avenged Sevenfold don't I. I'm not looking for a reason to bash them, on Ascendancy a lot of the riffs sound incredibly samey, and I just hate, HATE the vocals.
2. Listen to Detonation and tell me that the first half doesn't sound exactly like Metallica, even the vocals sound reminiscent of Hetfield.

[Nepenthe]

So then, what exactly are you even trying to say? I haven't found a main point to any of your arguments so far.

[Huber]

This is a Trivium thread, not a only fans of Trvium and noone else. This is a forum, made for the discussion of opinions. If everyone has the same opinion then it's not really a discussion of opinions. If you can't deal with other people not liking a band get over it or leave. Besides, it's not like we are being idiots, we're backing up our opinions. Also, there wouldn't be pages of just that if you guys (fans of Trivium) would actually have a discussion, instead of saying this is a Trivium thread for only fans, or saying you're only looking for reasons to hate them. Other bands get the same **** these guys do, but funny you guys don't seem to care about it unless it's a band you really care about.

These opinions don't even need to be backed up! The point is that we all agree on the points, it's just a matter of liking what those points are or not. There's really nothing to argue.

I bet if you looked back through the pages like I did, you'd see conversations starting, and then shot down but someone putting Trivium down. Like I said it's not like that's against the law, but you don't have to ****ing come in here and make the same point everytime something stirs up in here, we get the point, now let us talk about a band we like, okay?

edit:

At the above post: EXACTLY MY POINT! There's nothing to argue! So there's no need for people to keep coming in here and putting Trivium down for the same old things like we don't know that they are lacking in vocals, or originality, or are Metallica clones. It's like a group of people regularly going into the death heads thread and saying they hate death metal because growls suck. Wouldn't that stink up the thread and make you never go there again?

[Drunken Viking]

So then, what exactly are you even trying to say? I haven't found a main point to any of your arguments so far.
Seriously, I thought that I made it pretty clear that I thought Detonation sounded like a Metallica rip-off, and that Ascendancy had horrible vocals, and that it all sounded the same.

These opinions don't even need to be backed up! The point is that we all agree on the points, it's just a matter of liking what those points are or not. There's really nothing to argue.
Explain how we both agree on the points.



I bet if you looked back through the pages like I did, you'd see conversations starting, and then shot down but someone putting Trivium down. Like I said it's not like that's against the law, but you don't have to ****ing come in here and make the same point everytime something stirs up in here, we get the point, now let us talk about a band we like, okay?
In the same respect Trivium's fans really don't respond to Trivium haters posts either. They just make some big post saying you guys are retards, don't talk about them if you don't like them, which in all honesty is bullshit.

[Nepenthe]

The point is, this is a Trivium thread, it is meant for productive conversation about the band Trivium. You coming in here saying the same **** that people have been saying for the past two months is not productive whatsoever, nor even very intelligent.

[Drunken Viking]

Exactly this is a Trivium thread, which means varying points of view are allowed. And maybe if you guys responded to our posts with a counter point of view we'd get some conversations done, instead of mindless bitching.

[Huber]

Explain how we both agree on the points.


Not specifically you here, but things like the Metallica similarities, and the change in musical direction. Most of us agree it does sound a tad like Metallica, especially vocal-wise, and they are definetly changing styles (for better or worse is for you too decide).

We agree on most of these things, it's just that for some people it's a turn off, and others a turn on. So why argue it? It's all true, some just like it and others don't.


In the same respect Trivium's fans really don't respond to Trivium haters posts either. They just make some big post saying you guys are retards, don't talk about them if you don't like them, which in all honesty is bullshit.

Okay, I haven't really ever seen that. My last few posts were kinda big, but I never said anyone was a retard or an idiot or anything.

Plus, I'm not saying people shouldn't talk about why they hate them. It's just that I was in this thread numerous times over the past month or two and people keep coming in here and saying the same **** over and over.

This happens in other threads to. People go into say, the Metallica thread, like every week and share that they only like the first 4 albums and that the others suck or something. Then the others say they like/dislike the later albums and such or whatever. That isn't happening here. Instead people just keep arguing over it when it's shear taste.

The only exception to this is the live performance arguments. We've all seen the videos of the ever-so-sloppy Trivium, but the fact that I've seen them 3 times, and none of those times were as bad as the videos makes me think maybe there just inconsistent? That's a fault, for sure, but man all these overdone arguments are getting soooooo annoying, and are really turning the thread sour.

[Nepenthe]

Are you serious man? I thought you were cool/not an idiot.

A. Yes, varying points of view are allowed, but do we really need every person with a negative view on Trivium to tell us that?
B. Sure, I responded with some insults, but I also gave my counter point: How can you say The Crusade is a Metallica ripoff when 1. Only half of one of the two songs sounds anything remotely like Metallica, 2. There's still the rest of the album to ****ing hear before you make any sort of judgement on it. And, of course: What the **** do you people want? You bash them for horrid screams and generic riffs, so they dispose of the screaming and come up with some damn good riffs, and then you bash them for this as well. Hence the whole 'Hate Trivium' bandwagon statement (which, don't even try and pretend you don't realize is what half of this stupid **** is).

[Huber]

Not to name anyone in here, because I think people dislike Trivium in here simply because they don't dig it, but there definetly is a bandwagon of people looking for any excuse not to like Trivium because of there tr00ness.

Luckily, most of R&M is free of that.

[Drunken Viking]

Not specifically you here, but things like the Metallica similarities, and the change in musical direction. Most of us agree it does sound a tad like Metallica, especially vocal-wise, and they are definetly changing styles (for better or worse is for you too decide).

We agree on most of these things, it's just that for some people it's a turn off, and others a turn on. So why argue it? It's all true, some just like it and others don't.

I can see that, but when I say something like ugh, I hate Trivium's new style some of the fans go wel you hate them because they have a new style which isn't true.

Okay, I haven't really ever seen that. My last few posts were kinda big, but I never said anyone was a retard or an idiot or anything.

Plus, I'm not saying people shouldn't talk about why they hate them. It's just that I was in this thread numerous times over the past month or two and people keep coming in here and saying the same **** over and over.

This happens in other threads to. People go into say, the Metallica thread, like every week and share that they only like the first 4 albums and that the others suck or something. Then the others say they like/dislike the later albums and such or whatever. That isn't happening here. Instead people just keep arguing over it when it's shear taste.

The only exception to this is the live performance arguments. We've all seen the videos of the ever-so-sloppy Trivium, but the fact that I've seen them 3 times, and none of those times were as bad as the videos makes me think maybe there just inconsistent? That's a fault, for sure, but man all these overdone arguments are getting soooooo annoying, and are really turning the thread sour.
If I remember correctly Quorthonace said, "All in all, you guys are just retards looking for a reason to hate on them". And yes, a lot of people do say that they are sloppy as hell live, and we've had our argument about the sloppiness. But that's only a small part of the arguments.

Are you serious man? I thought you were cool/not an idiot.

A. Yes, varying points of view are allowed, but do we really need every person with a negative view on Trivium to tell us that?
B. Sure, I responded with some insults, but I also gave my counter point: How can you say The Crusade is a Metallica ripoff when 1. Only half of one of the two songs sounds anything remotely like Metallica, 2. There's still the rest of the album to ****ing hear before you make any sort of judgement on it. And, of course: What the **** do you people want? You bash them for horrid screams and generic riffs, so they dispose of the screaming and come up with some damn good riffs, and then you bash them for this as well. Hence the whole 'Hate Trivium' bandwagon statement (which, don't even try and pretend you don't realize is what half of this stupid **** is).
A.No we don't, but if the fans would respond and have some intelligent coversations, then when someone says something we could say look back a few pages, we already did this.
B.1.I NEVER SAID THE CRUSADE SOUNDS LIKE METALLICA, read my posts. I said that the first part of Detonation, I'm not gonna say that again.
2.I know that, that why I never said the whole album does, but those songs don't leave a very good taste in my mouth.

I and many others still think the vocals suck, same with the riffs, I still don't like them, face it. People have different points of view, deal with it. Yeah I know there is a hate Trivium bandwagon, but that doesn't mean that everyone who hates them just says that to be cool, people actually don't like them. If I was on that bandwagon would I go against such huge acts as Metallica who have an I love Metallica bandwagon, or think that bands like Atreyu are ok to listen to every once in a while when they have an I hate Atreyu bandwagon just like Trivium?

[Nepenthe]

Ok, um, I responded intelligently and productively, counterpoints and all, so I don't see how you can continue to say this wouldn't happen if fans would respond.

You're ****ing free to your opinion, but if it's the same one that has been stated over and over and over and over agan, it might be best just to keep it in your head.

[Drunken Viking]

Ok, um, I responded intelligently and productively, counterpoints and all, so I don't see how you can continue to say this wouldn't happen if fans would respond.

You're ****ing free to your opinion, but if it's the same one that has been stated over and over and over and over agan, it might be best just to keep it in your head.
Yeah, then I responded to you and you didn't read my post right, and I've been pointing that out for a page now.

So because 10 others have had my opinion, I can't voice it. That's dumb.

[Nepenthe]

No, I got your point. What I was saying about that was not directed directly at you, but to the hundred people who have said "they are just copying Metallica now".

You call it dumb, I call it common sense. I mean, let's be honest, do you really feel it necessary to state the same things that have been plaguing this thread for a month now?

[Drunken Viking]

I'd like the get the Trivium haters vs. Trivium lovers argument done now, that way we can stop with this, and when someone says I hate Trivium because they copied Metallica we can just tell them to look back a few pages.

[Nepenthe]

Well, if those are the teams then I guess I'm not involved, because I neither love nor hate them. I just think they are a pretty good band, definately one of the better mainstream American bands.

[Drunken Viking]

My official opinion about them is that Ascendancy had one good song, and everything else sounded the same. Yes they can solo, but it's boring a repetitive after a while. The vocals, are just ugh. I hate his scream, it's horrible, I'm glad he busted it I couldn't stand listening to them with that voice. And his clean voice was average at best, there are better and worse out there. As for the new album, from what I've heard it sounds like crap. I haven't heard the majority of it though. His vocals are still really bad, they sound like a crappy version of an already crappy vocalist (Hetfield).

[Nepenthe]

Thank you. That was probably the most informative anti Trivium post I've ever read, although I still think it is lacking. Exactly why do people hate Heafy's voice so much? It's generic, yes, it's nothing impressive, no, but I don't think it is by any means bad.

[Drunken Viking]

Reasons I hate his voice: His tone gets on my nerves, and that's because he did it incorrectly, he sounds like he's squawking. I don't like it for the same reasons people don't like Alex from Atreyu. His tone is annoying. And for his cleans, it's incredibly mediocre, there are so many better vocalists, yes there are worse but I still say Heafy's below average to average.

[Nepenthe]

Well of course, Heafy's voice is the definition of average, but there's plenty of bands that I listen to with below average vocals, so Heafy's voice in no way ruins Trivium for me.

Now the Atreyu guy, his voice is annoying. The squawking thing is at it's worst in his vocal chords.

[Drunken Viking]

Now the Atreyu guy, his voice is annoying. The squawking thing is at it's worst in his vocal chords.
That's exactly how I feel about Matt.

[Nepenthe]

(In my best kindergarden teacher voice)

So what have we learned today kids? Expressing your opinions in a productive and intelligent way is always better than just saying "Matt Heafy sucks".

[Drunken Viking]

Yay! I want a snack!

[Nepenthe]

Only if you admit to liking the harmony solo in Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation and the song Dying In Your Arms.

[Drunken Viking]

Those are actually my two favorite songs on Ascendancy. But AGTTHOT's harmony solo is a total rip-off of Bark at the Moons outro solo.

[Prince Charming]

Only if you admit to liking the harmony solo in Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation and the song Dying In Your Arms.
It's too bad they can't play it for **** live, which is when it matters.

[Huber]

Check out DIYA for some more Bark At The Moonage.

Flash and Dash: I recommend reading the last couple of pages before going on the gigantic Trivium-sucks-live thing again.

[Prince Charming]

Check out DIYA for some more Bark At The Moonage.
BARKKKKKKK ATTTT THEE MOOOONNNNNNNNN

:) woof

[Huber]

The end lick in Bark at the Moon is almost identical to the end lick of DIYA's solo, hold for a nice fill at the end of each lick in DIYA's.

I got over it though.

[Nepenthe]

Jake E Lee is a spectacular player.

I don't really care about live shows. You see that once, but you listen to it on cd countless times.

[Full Metal Racket]

What songs do you guys show their best guitar work? From Ascendancy I would say, Gunshot's solos and harmony section, Declaration as a whole, because of it's various riffs and the song's structure, and the solo from Drowned and Torn Asunder. Of the songs on Ember to Inferno, I would say To Burn the Eye.

[Nepenthe]

Actually, the three things you named off of Ascendancy are exactly what I would say.

[mr black]

My official opinion about them is that Ascendancy had one good song, and everything else sounded the same. Yes they can solo, but it's boring a repetitive after a while. The vocals, are just ugh. I hate his scream, it's horrible, I'm glad he busted it I couldn't stand listening to them with that voice. And his clean voice was average at best, there are better and worse out there. As for the new album, from what I've heard it sounds like crap. I haven't heard the majority of it though. His vocals are still really bad, they sound like a crappy version of an already crappy vocalist (Hetfield).

HAHA I LOVE THIS GUY /\ /\ /\ :chug:

[SimonCore]

Anthem sounds nothing like Metallica. It has more of a 'Black sabbath', 'Dio', 'Maiden' feel to it.

[ObviousEnigma]

Don't have much to say, just that Trivium are great! Awsome sound, and i know there isn't much i can say that hasn't been said, but keep it up!

[Trivium]

so far detonation and anthem dont look to great

but entrance of the conflagration is a sick *** song, and travis's dad said that he thought detonation was the weakest track.

Anthem is just a cheesy 80s metal song, and it isnt even that catchy. The chrous's from ascendancy are much more infectious than what ive heard so far off the crusade, but the album all and all looks really promising.

[Huber]

I really like Detonation. I like it more than most tracks off of Ascendancy.

[Shred Danson]

When exactly does The Crusade come out?

[Prince Charming]

When exactly does The Crusade come out?
When they've contacted enough malls for tour signings.

[Huber]

When they've contacted enough malls for tour signings.

Or you could not be a complete idiot and tell him it comes out October 10th.

[Prince Charming]

Or you could not be a complete idiot and tell him it comes out October 10th.
Forgive my honesty.

[Huber]

Forgive my gheyness.

Never

[Shred Danson]

Forgive my jealousy.

Forgiven :)

[Prince Charming]

Zip it faggot... You suck at editing posts and gtfoff this board you mallcore kidiot!

[Prince Charming]

Forgive my being a redneck mallcorian arsehole

Forgiven.

[Huber]

Oh man, kidiot :lol:

[Prince Charming]

Oh man, kidiot :lol:
Yeah. I lyk pwnt you!

[Shred Danson]

mallcorian

OMG LIEK UR TOTALY RITE I LIEK SUM "MAINSTREEM" BANDS SO I MUS BE MALLCORE LOLZ

[Prince Charming]

OMG LIEK UR TOTALY RITE I LIEK SUM "MAINSTREEM" BANDS SO I MUS BE MALLCORE LOLZ
yeppppppp you should be listening to Arutcyh. A very grimm, unknown and rare to stay rare Tr00 BM band from Norway.

Try: Ulithcara, for more tr00ness

[Shred Danson]

yeppppppp you should be listening to Arutcyh.

not everyone has music downloading capabilities and/or Soulseek. :mad:

[Prince Charming]

not everyone has music downloading capabilities and/or Soulseek. :mad:
Why not? dial up?

[Shred Danson]

No, this computer is just too goddamn slow and crappy. Remember I told you I bought it for 5 bucks at a goddamn garage sale :lol: (I was desperate!)

[Prince Charming]

No, this computer is just too goddamn slow and crappy. Remember I told you I bought it for 5 bucks at a goddamn garage sale :lol: (I was desperate!)
Like a tr00 redneck!

Who (besides you) goes to garage sales? That's like for poor people or hippies.

[Shred Danson]

poor people

Yeah, not everyone is made of money. Including me.

[Prince Charming]

Yeah, not everyone is made of money. Including me.

[alytee123]

I saw the video for The Anthem, its nothing special to me to be honest. The solo is fantastic though. Im still keener on Detonation though. Very anxious to hear the new album, looking forward to it. Just over a month left. Gonna be fantastic.

[Bestial Perversor]

Shouldn't this thread be in the pop/pop rock section?

[actionfan32]

They have a new song called Entrance Of The Conflagration up at http://www.myspace.com/trivium

While I do think they try too hard to be Metallica, this new song still sounds really good to me (as well as the other two). I used to hate Trivium (actually there are still times when I'm undecided about whether I like them or hate them hahaha), but after seeing them put on a really good performance at SOTU and after hearing these new songs, I think I'm actually starting to like them. I might get The Crusade when it comes out, not sure yet.

[xMClevelandx]

Trivium is amazing. I'm really excited for thier new album coming out soon. :)

[adamstartin]

yeh entrance to the conflagation is the best of the lot so far, but i'd say detonation is second best. I still like that song. But anthem sucks ***.

[Itwasthatwas]

The trouble is the new album sounds too much like metallica... just minus the progression. If they really wanted to be as great as metallica, shouldn't they be focussing on creating a unique product that will leave a mark on music rather than just mindlessly ripping off the less progressive side of a band that did what Trivium is trying to do now in the 80s?

[Forlorn Hope]

Well, even if they do sound a lot like Metallica in the 80's, I much rather have a new Master Of Puppets type album than another St. Anger...:smash:

:)

[MRDuCran]

Holy ****, I'm listening to the Anthem, the bit where they're shouting "yeah yeah, yeah yeah"...I thought it WAS fking James hetfield. I was like, "wtf, did they sample that bitch or what?"

[Forlorn Hope]

Holy ****, I'm listening to the Anthem, the bit where they're shouting "yeah yeah, yeah yeah"...I thought it WAS fking James hetfield. I was like, "wtf, did they sample that bitch or what?"
:lol: yea Heafy has the Hetfield voice down pretty good. You should listen to Entrance Of The Conflagration, I think it's their best off the Crusade so far.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah he's got it down alright but I think they've taken it a bit too far tbh. I still haven't been impressed with any solos yet either.

I haven't heard that song yet, only the ones on their myspace.

[Forlorn Hope]

It's on there now. They had the video for it, but took it down for some reason.

[MRDuCran]

Oh yeah. :lol:

What a dumbass.

EDIT!!!

It's not too bad, I like most of it so I guess it's my fave so far too. It's definately a big change from the old Trivium.

[Trivium]

"the crusade" is an amazing song as well

bruce dickenson played on his bbc radio show, and I have an mp3 rip of it.

Its fast and heavy and very dream theater esque

[Lartsa]

Really? Sounds interesting.

[stevensonmat2]

My aunt's family is good friends with the families of trivium. Her son grew up with them. To bad they're from maine. >.<

[Joe]

"the crusade" is an amazing song as well

bruce dickenson played on his bbc radio show, and I have an mp3 rip of it.

Its fast and heavy and very dream theater esque

Yea it's an awesome song. They've got in on their website if anyone hasn't heard it. I'm excited about the new album. I'm curious about how the whole no-screaming thing will be.

[The 57th Medical Failure]

Holy ****, I'm listening to the Anthem, the bit where they're shouting "yeah yeah, yeah yeah"...I thought it WAS fking James hetfield. I was like, "wtf, did they sample that bitch or what?"
Word. It's pretty bad.

[3FingeredHoek]

Wow! I'm really digging Trivium's new stuff! I'll definitely be buying The Crusade when it comes out.

[Full Metal Racket]

Just listened to Entrance..., really liking it, gonna definately pick up The Crusade when it's released.

[Disturbed Rule]

I think they've pulled off the 80's-thrash-style damn well (from what i've heard so far), manage to capture the feeling that bands such as Metallica used to create while still keeping the Trivium effect.

If that made sense.

[The 57th Medical Failure]

I think they've pulled off the 80's-thrash-style damn well (from what i've heard so far), manage to capture the feeling that bands such as Metallica used to create while still keeping the Trivium effect.

If that made sense.
No, sir it did not.

They ripped off Metallica.

/end thread

[Trivium]

No, sir it did not.

They ripped off Metallica.

/end thread

yes because any thrash band that has a rough singing style like hetfield is definately just copying metallica.

trivium has kept to their old sound while expanding into a new genre of music their basically just metallca about 30 bpm faster and with more ripping solos.

[Drunken Viking]

their basically just metallca about 30 bpm faster and with more ripping solos.
So they are ripping off Metallica.

[Forlorn Hope]

If they are ripping off Metallica, then every single power metal band is ripping off each other. Kalmah is ripping off Norther, and Skid Row rips off Motley Crue. And any other band within the same genre as another is ripping off each other...:rolleyes:

[Drunken Viking]

If they play the exact same thing 30bpm faster and with more solos, then yes.

[Moses]

If they are ripping off Metallica, then every single power metal band is ripping off each other. Kalmah is ripping off Norther, and Skid Row rips off Motley Crue. And any other band within the same genre as another is ripping off each other...:rolleyes:
That's exactly what happens and exactly why metal normally sucks.

[Drunken Viking]

Unless you listen to decent an orignal metal that is. :rolleyes:

[Moses]

Psh, there's hardly any. Name a few and I'll tell you why they aren't original. Unless they were the first in their genre of course.

[Drunken Viking]

That's a joke right?

I could name 15 original bands who've released an album in the past 6 years.

[Moses]

That's a joke right?
No. Not after I've been brainwashed with prog and jazz and jazz fusion.

I would like to take you up on your claim/

[DKMode]

does anyone have a link to the other song they released from crusades thats not detonation. i heard they released one on their website earlier but then took it off and replaced it with detonation

[Drunken Viking]

Try Myspace.

You what? You want me to name 15 bands.

Arch Enemy, Arsis, Avenged Sevenfold, Behemoth, Children of Bodom, Cryptopsy, Death, Dream Theater, Extol, Into Eternity, Mastodon, Necrophagist, Opeth, Orphaned Land, Shadows Fall.

[Insipid2000]

No. Not after I've been brainwashed with prog and jazz and jazz fusion.

I would like to take you up on your claim/

Opeth? Oh there we go ^^^

[Moses]

Arch Enemy,
Okay, even though the quality of the music is not horrible, it's in no way original.
Arsis,
Nah. Again, just because it sounds good, doesn't mean it's original or different.
Avenged Sevenfold,
They're catchy, but that's about it.
Behemoth,
Nothing Behemoth does is original, except maybe layering the vocals like a million times.
Children of Bodom,
Pm with harsh vocals? I've had enough of that in my day.
Cryptopsy,
One of the few original dm bands around, another notable one would be Vital Remains.
Death,
Okay, we're improving a little.
Dream Theater,
Dream Theater kind of spawned the trendy new prog metal that everyone wants to do. Ruddess is the only good thing about them these days.
Extol,
They are actually pretty unique.
Into Eternity,
Even though they are ****ing awesome, it doesn't mean they've done much for metal or they don't do much that's different from any other new prog metal.
Mastodon,
Mastodon is awesome and they have their own sound but I fail to see what's original about them.
Necrophagist,
Oh god, you picked the worst one. They probalby have the most copy-cat bands about them around. Influential within the genre that only has one sound. Even though they practically started and popularized it, it's old now.
Opeth,
There we go.
Orphaned Land,
There we go.
Shadows Fall.
Way to end on a bad note.

Besides that, all these bands have riffs and use them in almost the same way.

[Drunken Viking]

Okay, even though the quality of the music is not horrible, it's in no way original.
Yeah, I would've put Carcass, but the last album the released was Swanson 10 years ago, or even In Flamesor At The Gates.

Nah. Again, just because it sounds good, doesn't mean it's original or different.
Arsis are incredibly original, one of the few Melodic Death bands that aren't just Gothenburg rip-off.

They're catchy, but that's about it.
This is where I start to disagree. I really haven't heard to many albums like CoE. Even hair metal was different. How many Motley Crue albums had a full orchestra or choir, and had intelligent lyrics and an average 7 min song length?

Nothing Behemoth does is original, except maybe layering the vocals like a million times.
Again, they probably weren't the best example, I could've found better, like Bathory.

Pm with harsh vocals? I've had enough of that in my day.
Please, CoB are a lot different most Power Metal. And besides AYDY? isn't even power metal, it's totally original and just plain metal.

One of the few original dm bands around, another notable one would be Vital Remains.
Tr00f.

Okay, we're improving a little.
:)

Dream Theater kind of spawned the trendy new prog metal that everyone wants to do. Ruddess is the only good thing about them these days.
That doesn't make them any less original.

They are actually pretty unique.
And incredibly badass.

Even though they are ****ing awesome, it doesn't mean they've done much for metal or they don't do much that's different from any other new prog metal.
Meh, to me they sound a lot different from most of the stuff out there, but I haven't dwelved to much into the recent prog. scene.

Mastodon is awesome and they have their own sound but I fail to see what's original about them.
They have their own unique sound, they don't rip-off anyone, and they have really original melodies and chord progressions.

Oh god, you picked the worst one. They probalby have the most copy-cat bands about them around. Influential within the genre that only has one sound.
One sound! You can't tell me Demilich, Cryptopsy, Necrophagist, and Anata all sound the same.

There we go.

There we go.
:)

Way to end on a bad note.
They were original when they first came out, not now when most NWOAHM sounds relatively close.

[DKMode]

how about tool? Id say they are the most unique heavy metal band to come out in the past 15 years by far

[ValueJudgement]

ugggh tools just bad man.

Trivium wants to be metallica so bad. just listen and compare

[Pablo Sanchezz]

Trivium would be an amazing band with someone besides Matt singing/whatever- the-hell-he-does

[ValueJudgement]

Trivium would be an amazing band with someone besides Matt singing/whatever- the-hell-he-does
Good sir, tha'ts known as throwing up, or vomiting where I'm from.

[DKMode]

ugggh tools just bad man.

Trivium wants to be metallica so bad. just listen and compare
you dont have to like them, but you cant deny the fact that they are incredibly unique. not only did they invent a new type of heavy music 15 years ago, but to this day noone has even been able to come close to replicating their sound. thats originality.

[ValueJudgement]

you dont have to like them, but you cant deny the fact that they are incredibly unique. not only did they invent a new type of heavy music 15 years ago, but to this day noone has even been able to come close to replicating their sound. thats originality.
are you callin trivium, or metallica original, cuz both copied their mums and then some.

listen to riffs, they are the same. heafy is james timewarped

[Drunken Viking]

He's calling Tool original.

[hollowpainting]

He's calling Tool original.
Tool is quite good and original.

[playguitar]

are you callin trivium, or metallica original, cuz both copied their mums and then some.

listen to riffs, they are the same. heafy is james timewarped

Except Heafy is a million times lamer, with the vocals, live performances, riffs, and the general quality of songwriting.

[Epicurus]

Yeah I really dislike this band but I do like some of the riffs off Ascendancy.

[Perhaps Crickets]

Except Heafy is a million times lamer, with the vocals, live performances, riffs, and the general quality of songwriting.
ohhh gawd. Heafy is so bad live, wait the whole band is.

[Kyle]

So im not Trivium fan, but the new single is sounding really bad to me! I'm not here to flame the band, but what do you Trivium fans think of it?

[Perhaps Crickets]

So im not Trivium fan, but the new single is sounding really bad to me! I'm not here to flame the band, but what do you Trivium fans think of it?
I hate Trivial, and I think the new tune is a total Metallica ripoff. :thumb:

[-The Frank]

So im not Trivium fan, but the new single is sounding really bad to me! I'm not here to flame the band, but what do you Trivium fans think of it?

If your talking about Enter the conflgration (or whatver its name is) then i didnt really like it either. There really was no hook for me to sing along to. It just didnt sound good to me.

But i did like detonation.

[Kyle]

Wait, the song i'm talking about is Anthem (We are the Fire).....

[-The Frank]

Oh haha, sorry. I really dont know what to think about anthem. It just didnt sound like trivium to me. It sounded like they were trying too hard to be someone else. It isnt that bad of a song though, but it just didnt have that trivium feel.

[Pablo Sanchezz]

When is the album supposed to come out anyway?

[Huber]

October 10

[Forlorn Hope]

it's totally original and just plain metal.
I'm not trying to be a douche or argue, I just thought that was kind of ironic. I know what you mean, and I agree, but the way you worded it was just funny.

[MRDuCran]

I just saw the video for Anthem (We are the Fire) on Kerrang, kinda reminds me of a pop punk band video with the teens and the swimming pool etc.

I see Matt's growing his hair again.

[Quiksilver26]

To whoever was saying that they just want to be Metallica or whatever.. That's probably true that they do, but hey who doesnt?

The new album doesn't sound like something Metallica would put out... but when I listen to it, I'm just reminded so much of them =\

[Tortex88]

dude, i haven heard any of the songs off the new album yet. i'm not going to listen to it until it comes out.

[Quiksilver26]

Aye, without ruining it for you I'll just say that it IS a very good album, I like it way more than Ascendancy... it's a bit more.. mature I guess would be the closest word to describe it :)

[adamstartin]

Haha , TG said ' The crusade is the best Metallica album for years' :p

[Quiksilver26]

Hard to disagree... judging by the couple new Metallica songs

[Huber]

The Crusade > Ascendancy

[Grumma]

lawled at the last 50 pages (coincidently since I last posted)

The Crusade = different

But heck I think it sounds good (so far) so Im buyin it
As far as the songs off The Crusade that Ive heard;
Anthem > Detonation > Entrance of the Conflagaration
But hey thats just my opinion.

And also in regards to Matt's live vox theyve improved sh1tloads since he cut out the screaming

[-The Frank]

The Crusade > Ascendancy

Is there a leak out already ?

[Poofy 666]

Yeah it leaked. But I'm not downloading since I think their music is poo. If anyone wants the link, I can send it.

[adamstartin]

It has been leaked, good qulaity too. As regards the album, its a bit milder than the last two. And i swear if 'metallica' was written on the front it would be called the best metallica cd in ages. Its pretty good, surprisingly the Tracks contributed by paolo, probably the weakest musician, are among the best on the CD. The screaming is mostly gone, but he can sing surprinsingly well. I do miss the sqwarking though haha. The instrumental is very nice, definetly one of the highlights. All around a great CD, and no im not a fanboy, i just appreciate decnt metal once in a while. If you are expecting Ascendancy or Ember, you will be surprised.

[Benzum]

They should have sticked with doing whatever the **** they were doing on Ascendancy to be quite honest...

[adamstartin]

They should have sticked with doing whatever the **** they were doing on Ascendancy to be quite honest... And be labeled one trick ponies?

[Po0sH]

Haha it got leaked they are teh nubs. Im downloading right now.