The Trivium Thread, Bitches

[Drunken Viking]

There's a difference between overconfidence, and plain arrogance.

[Britton]

That is an oversized load of bullsh1t. There is no way their live tone was as bada$$ as Pantera's, and no way their crowds or fans are nearly as large in #. Also, if some people think they suck live, that must mean they aren't as good as Pantera live.

And yes, that is perfectly normal for a famous 20 year old to be over confident.




So ****ing what? some peole say Pantera sucked live who gives a flying **** what other people say?


I know I sure as hell don't.

And for the record Triviums live tone is crushing! Now I never saw Pantera live (in person) but I can tell you Trivium kicks *** live. And the fans that were un-able to mosh at trivium were frickin brutal

[Neoteric]

I'm actually getting into this band a lot, they are good but not as good as everyone makes them out to be.

[nowitzki]

That is an oversized load of bullsh1t. There is no way their live tone was as bada$$ as Pantera's, and no way their crowds or fans are nearly as large in #. Also, if some people think they suck live, that must mean they aren't as good as Pantera live.
Hmm, but its hard to judge what Heafy meant by that comment, perhaps Dime's wife had personally said to them something to that effect, rather than Heafy just assuming it.

[MRDuCran]

Hmm, but its hard to judge what Heafy meant by that comment, perhaps Dime's wife had personally said to them something to that effect, rather than Heafy just assuming it.

You're correct, Drunken Viking wrote it out wrong.

In the April 2006 Guitar World magazine, on page 66, it says:

"She said that when she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crown reaction like that since the Vulgar Display of Power days."


On another note, has anyone seen that Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD with Trivium on it??

[Dark_Hero]

Trivium is pretty good, but I like Matt Heafy in Capharnaum more.

[Forlorn Hope]

You're correct, Drunken Viking wrote it out wrong.

In the April 2006 Guitar World magazine, on page 66, it says:

"She said that when she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crown reaction like that since the Vulgar Display of Power days."


On another note, has anyone seen that Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD with Trivium on it??
i think i saw a short clip (not sure if it was young guitar)
i can get a link if you want, but im sure its not the whole dvd, just a short clip od it

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Was writing a long reply to Britton's post, but my computer restarted, so I decided fuk it after hearing that Dimebag's wife said that to Heafy.

I don't want to affend any Dimebag fans in here by going against what his wife thinks, and sure as hell don't want to affend Dimebag(in the sense that he is watching over us).

[Drunken Viking]

You're correct, Drunken Viking wrote it out wrong.

In the April 2006 Guitar World magazine, on page 66, it says:

"She said that when she first saw us play, she hadn't heard a live tone like that or seen a crown reaction like that since the Vulgar Display of Power days."


On another note, has anyone seen that Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD with Trivium on it??
Oh whoops, I guess I was mistaken. When the magazine said Matt Heafy thinks he knows it kinda through me off. My bad.

[FolkVikingFan]

these guys are awful

[MRDuCran]

i think i saw a short clip (not sure if it was young guitar)
i can get a link if you want, but im sure its not the whole dvd, just a short clip od it

Oh no it's fine, I have the DVD, but I've never seen anyone mention it so I was just going to ask about opinions on it etc.

[Britton]

these guys are awful


OMG go away!


Guys. I was there in S.A when she introduced her-self to corey. It was behind the white rabbit. They were packing there stuff. I had just said "Yo to Alexi" and I was walking over to where my brother and mom said they would meet me. When I saw matt and corey. Matt got pulled away so I followed him and got his autograph. then I came back and corey was talking to this lady that kept praising Triviums live sound and saying how cool the fans were. I didn't really know who she was ti'll a month or so later.

[Trivium]

ive been able to sneak a preview of some of the crusade recordings. Its absolutely insane. Best metal album since puppets.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

ive been able to sneak a preview of some of the crusade recordings. Its absolutely insane. Best metal album since puppets.

Really, maybe you should send me some of the songs. Is that possible?

[Trivium]

haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost dream theater esque virtuosity as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's

God I hope not.

But still, sounds good from your description.

[Trivium]

God I hope not.

But still, sounds good from your description.

the good ****

if I see any band wearing spandex ever again ill shoot them

[chorbalan]

haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost dream theater esque virtuosity as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.

Ok, I have a problem with that part. I may come out as a DT fanboy (which I probably am) ,but you can't drop statements like that without being 10000% sure to back it up without a relative point of view. It seems to me that you just tought of a really technical band and just threw their name in there in comparison because a lot of people think they are good. I can almost guarantee that while they may have gotten (and probably have) much better with their instruments they will be no where close to DT. Also comparing them is like comparing apples and a kick in the nuts...two totally different things.

Also out of curioucity I have to ask, what is your relationship with the band and management?

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost dream theater esque virtuosity as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.

Lol, thought I would try, I'm anxious to see what their new sound is like without the screaming. I'll take you're word for it then if it is that badass, I do like Metallica(not their new stuff, only old). Yeah, what is your relationship with the band and management?

[Scuba_Steve]

haha, id get sued, and lose my relationship with the band and their managment and what not.

Its ascendancy, except you can hear an almost dream theater esque virtuosity as their skills on their instruments have improved immensly. The vocals as you know include very little screaming, and are in a more hetfield style.

This album is real metal, and personally I think the crusade will bring a complete end to the metalcore genre. Hopefully it can revive metal from the 80's. Plus this is really only their 3rd album, and I can tell they have a lot left in them.

But they werent completely mastered or anything, but the album will hopefully drop in september, before they go on tour with maiden.



so their gunna wank their instruments until they start to suck?

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

so their gunna wank their instruments until they start to suck?

lol.

[Scuba_Steve]

I feel bad about that comment, i didn't even post anything postive with it.


I'm happy he'll be going the hetfield route, cause then he can probably sing the songs better live.

[mr black]

^ Or worse, judging by his "hetfield" singing that i've seen come out of his mouth. Still nothing a bit of auto-tune can't fix :smash:

[Trivium]

Ok, I have a problem with that part. I may come out as a DT fanboy (which I probably am) ,but you can't drop statements like that without being 10000% sure to back it up without a relative point of view. It seems to me that you just tought of a really technical band and just threw their name in there in comparison because a lot of people think they are good. I can almost guarantee that while they may have gotten (and probably have) much better with their instruments they will be no where close to DT. Also comparing them is like comparing apples and a kick in the nuts...two totally different things.

Also out of curioucity I have to ask, what is your relationship with the band and management?

uhm obviously they cant meet up with dream theater. Matt himself has said he's far far away from petruci. But their guitar/drum/bass skills have gotten so much better its insane.

and my relationship is I run a very popular fansite.

[Rattlehead]

jesus, this really is good news. Trivium, your description of the new album is very encouraging. *exited*:)

Trivium, what kind of tone changes have you heard in your "sneak peeks"?

[Trivium]

it still sounds very trivium, if you heard it youd have no doubt it was them. Its just, better.

[nowitzki]

I cannot wait to hear it.

[Trivium]

"
So The Crusade doesn't come til October probably. Trivium just finished recording it within the last 2 weeks. Soooooooo.

Tonight my band played in downtown Orlando, and there to see see my band was Paolo from Trivium, and Matt Heafy's father who is also Trivium's manager. After my bands set, Matt's dad told me the new stuff is sounding amazing, and asked if I'd like to hear it. Of course, I wasn't going to tell him no!

So he, Paolo & I took a walk to their car and I got to listen to 6 songs off of The Crusade. Eventhough they were unmastered and ****, they sounded ****ing AMAZING!

The songs I got to listen to were: Anthem (We Are The Fire), To The Rats, Ignition, The Crusade, In Sadness We'll See Her and another one that I can't quite remember the name of. Began with a U.

To sum it up, The Crusade is ****ing jaw dropping! I was in heaven every second I was listening to the new stuff. The band improved so much on this new album.

Matt's vocals are sooooo ****ing good. Didn't hear 1 scream, and to be honest, I'm completely fine with that now. I was disappointed a little bit when I found out he wouldn't be screaming, but the vocals on this are incredible. A mix of Hetfield like vocals, with Heafy's style of singing on songs like Gunshot & Dying In Your Arms.

The guitars are ****ing rediculous on this album. Solo after solo, riff after riff, and finally you can pick yourself up off the floor. Cause you will get knocked the **** out!

Drums & bass sound incredible too. Everything about the songs were great!

Hands down, best album of 2006. And I only heard 6 songs so far! I can't wait!"

another one of my friends who heard it

[Drunken Viking]

Do they reuse the same riffs over and over again?

[Grumma]

Do you reuse the same lame argument over and over again?

[Rattlehead]

Matt's vocals are sooooo ****ing good. Didn't hear 1 scream, and to be honest, I'm completely fine with that now. I was disappointed a little bit when I found out he wouldn't be screaming, but the vocals on this are incredible. A mix of Hetfield like vocals, with Heafy's style of singing on songs like Gunshot & Dying In Your Arms.


Hetfield vocals ftw. shame about the heafy DIYA style vocals

[Drunken Viking]

Do you reuse the same lame argument over and over again?
I wasn't arguing, I was wondering if like Ascendancy they reuse the same riffs before I go out and buy it.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Trivium, you got me all psyched for the new album now. I can feel that many new albums are coming out in the remaining '06 and '07- Sacrament, Crusade for starters.

[Crysiss]

Sacrament will be good:)

[Trivium]

Sacrament will be good:)

whats that?

[Drunken Viking]

The new LoG.

[SimonCore]

^When's it out?

Have Trivium given a release date for the crusade?

[Sir_Robert]

cant wait for it to come out. ive been listening to there last album for forever now. and i think it will be even better without the screaming. i dont dislike it but if the vocals really will be like hetfields then i think that will fit better than his screaming.

rock on trivium!!

-(i wish they would come to alaska)

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

^When's it out?

Have Trivium given a release date for the crusade?

Sacrament-sometime this summer, probably august.

Crusade-Supposedly sometime in October.

[Trivium]

yeah trivium just wants their album out a few weeks before they tour with maiden.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

yeah trivium just wants their album out a few weeks before they tour with maiden.

Sweet, anyone else on that tour?

Any tour dates yet?

[Grumma]

Their website and/or forum will teach you more than you can know ;)

[SimonCore]

It's only Maiden and Trivium. And it's only a European tour methinks.

[Grumma]

It's only Europe (90% certain) from memory

And Im pretty sure for some of the gigs at least there will be other supporting bands

[Moses]

I like Trivium's more poppy songs, otherwise I don't really listen to them.

[jackoffjillgashes]

I love trivium i have ember to inferno and ascendancy. i can see the improvement and can't wait until the crusade comes out. i plan to go to my first concert to see them july 17

[jackoffjillgashes]

trivium is touring with metallica and 36 crazyfist in germany at the moment

[One of a Kind]

Trivium pales in comparison to Capharnaum, Matt Heafy's other band. Stop watching MTV and listen to music that doesn't lack creativity or emotion.

[jackoffjillgashes]

ifreakin hate people who assume just cause some likes a band shown on mtv a person's intrest sparked from their. I found trivium by accident. Yeah heafy's other band is pretty good

[Drunken Viking]

Who said they hated Trivium because they were on MTV?

EDIT: Nevermind.

Trivium pales in comparison to Capharnaum, Matt Heafy's other band. Stop watching MTV and listen to music that doesn't lack creativity or emotion.
Oh please, don't act like because they were on MTV they must suck ***. And from what I've heard from Capharnaum they didn't sound that great, and the vocals from Heafy were pathetic.

[One of a Kind]

I sure as hell didn't. I said I didn't like Trivium because they lack creativity and emotion.

All of their **** sounds regurgitated.

[Drunken Viking]

You implied that. "Stop watching MTV and listen to music that doesn't lack creativity or emotion" you basicaly said that music on MTV is bad.

[jackoffjillgashes]

bash mtv all you want but so often people like myself who don't even watch the channel get burned for likin bands shown on there. mtv takes all the credit for bands who make it some what main stream. i f***ing hate that channel. Quick make an MTV3 because tv shows over run mtv 2. when will it end

[Drunken Viking]

I watch MTV sometimes, mostly for Jackass and Viva La Bam. But I still watch it none-the-less and it doesn't effect my change in music or make it less important or ignorant.

[One of a Kind]

You implied that. "Stop watching MTV and listen to music that doesn't lack creativity or emotion" you basicaly said that music on MTV is bad.

Yep. For the most part it does. There are a few bands that pop up every now and then that are good.

[jackoffjillgashes]

originality is lackin in today's music that's a fact.

[One of a Kind]

originality is lackin in today's music that's a fact.

Not if you look hard enough. :D

[Drunken Viking]

originality is lackin in today's music that's a fact.
Maybe in the mainstream, but if you go into the recommendation thread I gurantee you'll find atleast 20 original bands.

[jackoffjillgashes]

i hate people who are obsessed with their fave band being underground and abandon true talent because it get's recognition. this has truned into an mtv discussion

[nowitzki]

A new Trivium track they performed today at Rock Am Ring...
http://www.triviumworld.com/rockamring/Trivium-Detonation(Live).mp3

(I haven't had chance to listen myself yet, seeing as I'm watching Metallica play the whole of Master of Puppets there!! (http://www.rockpalast.de/livestream/))

[jackoffjillgashes]

i know you gotta look hrad

[One of a Kind]

i hate people who are obsessed with their fave band being underground and abandon true talent because it get's recognition. this has truned into an mtv discussion

LOL. Are you saying underground bands and musicians don't have true talent?

[jackoffjillgashes]

detonation is pretty good their riffs sound tighter reminds me a little of ember to inferno

[jackoffjillgashes]

A new Trivium track they performed today at Rock Am Ring...
http://www.triviumworld.com/rockamring/Trivium-Detonation(Live).mp3

(I haven't had chance to listen myself yet, seeing as I'm watching Metallica play the whole of Master of Puppets there!! (http://www.rockpalast.de/livestream/))good **** thanks!

[jackoffjillgashes]

LOL. Are you saying underground bands and musicians don't have true talent?no I'm saying when underground bands go mainstream the loose fans who are wrapped upin the underground scene. Some people want to be the only one on the band wagon

[Drunken Viking]

A new Trivium track they performed today at Rock Am Ring...
http://www.triviumworld.com/rockamring/Trivium-Detonation(Live).mp3

(I haven't had chance to listen myself yet, seeing as I'm watching Metallica play the whole of Master of Puppets there!! (http://www.rockpalast.de/livestream/))
I hope you ****ing like the ****ing song, cause it's like ****ing amazing, so yeah you ****ing with us? **** yeah!

[jackoffjillgashes]

My lil sis has slipped into main stream she likes chris brown. she's only 8 i have time to save her soul before she sells it to the man

[Drunken Viking]

Cool.

Did anyone else think that song was ok, nothing to special. The first solo was pretty much a Slayer rip-off. Whammy bar with mindless shredding.

[jackoffjillgashes]

i wonder if people will start growlin on the radio?

[Drunken Viking]

You mean screaming, there are bands that scream on the radio. Lamb of God, Nile, Trivium, Atreyu, Mudvayne, In Flames.

[jackoffjillgashes]

there are bands that scream on the radio but they don't really play the heavy songs

[Drunken Viking]

I fail to see which Lamb of God and Nile songs aren't heavy.

[One of a Kind]

No, it won't happen because stuff that goes on the radio is stuff that isn't abrasive to the ears. It's stuff that the general masses want to hear...so unless death metal becomes popular, which I highly doubt, you won't be hearing it on the radio.

...And I was never really a fan of Trivium. If a band goes mainstream usually their music goes down the ****ter. I'll still like the bands older releases. Song structures are usually more simplified on radio and the tv. Complex strong structures aren't generally wanted because there's usually too much stuff going on at once and it's too complicated for normal minds to take in. :P

[mfdshred]

i wonder if people will start growlin on the radio?
Who cares?

[jackoffjillgashes]

where i live they never play nile or lamb of god. maybe on hd radio and sirius

[One of a Kind]

LOL. Lamb Of God aren't that heavy dude.

I do enjoy then though. :D

[Drunken Viking]

I'd say they are heavy. Maybe not Death Meal but heavy non-the-less.

People who metal to be popular in the mainstream again maybe.

[One of a Kind]

I'd rather not have it popular. Then I'd have faggots coming up to me and going...OMG D00D I UNDASTAND Y U LIZTEN'D TO THIZ ALL ALONG.

[jackoffjillgashes]

i'm sure as hell tired of hear fallout boy and three days grace crap. my cuz bought me a three days grace cd for christmas i wanted to shot him. he's lucky i got a guitar that christmas

[jackoffjillgashes]

i love chicken nuggets

[Drunken Viking]

I'd of liked to live in the 80's when metal dominated everything. That would of been sweet.

[jackoffjillgashes]

hair metal dominated everything lol

[Drunken Viking]

That and NWOBHM.

[One of a Kind]

Mostly pop metal, not so much NWOBHM.

I enjoy a bit of Poison every once and a while when I need a good laugh. hahaha

[Crysiss]

I dont think its really something funny enough to laugh at.

[One of a Kind]

I think guys going around in more make up than a stripper wears with their hair as big as Tina Turner's was is ****ing hilarious. That and all they sing about is women and getting drunk. ahahaha

[Crysiss]

I thought you meant just the music, not the image that they portrayed back then.

[One of a Kind]

LOL. I laugh at the image they portrayed and the lyrical content...and CC Deville's skillful guitar work. :rolleyes:

[Crysiss]

Technical Indeed. But this is A Trivium thread. How much of you hav heard Capharnaum? I prefer Matt in that band than trivium IMO.

[toolfreak]

http://bulletin.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&messageID=1024146644&MyToken=288fec59-444c-407c-a8db-089d6c228393

[Grumma]

I like Trivium's more poppy songs, otherwise I don't really listen to them.


So in other words you like DIYA and thats it then :thumb:

[Grumma]

Technical Indeed. But this is A Trivium thread. How much of you hav heard Capharnaum? I prefer Matt in that band than trivium IMO.


I prefer Trivium but Matt goes pretty darn well with Capharnaum.
The lyrics in The Scourge Trial at the start are overlapped brilliantly.

[Huber]

Anyone think they can upload some of that Capharnaum stuff? I can't get a hold of it anywhere.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

okay let me piss everyone off and say: wdf is trivium and why did they name themselves something so gay and irrelevant?

[Huber]

okay let me piss everyone off and say: wdf is trivium and why did they name themselves something so gay and irrelevant?

Trivium are the three branches of learning. I read somewhere it had something to do with that linking somehow to open-mindedness and they liked that a lot. I don't remember word for word why though.

[toolfreak]

Did anyone click the link i posted click it to hear the new track detonation live at some festival

[SimonCore]

^I'll look now.

*watches video*

Yeah that was very good but it sounded abit empty at that show, prolly because it was a festival. I reckon that will sound really full and faster on the actual CD.

[One of a Kind]

Technical Indeed. But this is A Trivium thread. How much of you hav heard Capharnaum? I prefer Matt in that band than trivium IMO.

Look back a couple of pages to see me praising Capharnaum. :chug:

[Rattlehead]

okay let me piss everyone off and say: wdf is trivium and why did they name themselves something so gay and irrelevant?
'cause it's coool.

but i would like to know whether they just made it up. is it a word in any language? its sounds kind of like trivial, but that would not be consistent with their all-over un-trivial music.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Cool.

Did anyone else think that song was ok, nothing to special. The first solo was pretty much a Slayer rip-off. Whammy bar with mindless shredding.

Yeah, that song wasn't too bad. Really reminded me of Metallica in some parts. Yeah that did sound like a Slayer solo rip-off. I don't think the drums sound as complex as they did on Ascendancy. We will have to wait and see what the other songs are like though, may be in for a surprise.

Trivium has something to do with the apocalypse. I think it's something along the lines of, when the antichrist comes on Earth, Jesus will return and everyone will be judged except for a certain number that had a minimum number of sins. Jesus would reign over those that weren't judged for 1,000 years. I think that period is called Trivium. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[toolfreak]

I don't like triviums new direction

[TEST]

Their bassist is an asshat on AIM. ftr

[Drunken Viking]

He blocked me for saying Matt sounds like ****. :(

Anyone else think it's ironic that in both the Pull Harder and Gunshot vids Matt is all metal and stuff, but now that Dying in Your Arms has been released he's turneded into more of a scene kid?

[Grumma]

'cause it's coool.

but i would like to know whether they just made it up. is it a word in any language? its sounds kind of like trivial, but that would not be consistent with their all-over un-trivial music.


Trivium is a real word
Look it up on wikipedia and it comes up with something else other than the band.

And I dont see how it is ironic at all that Matt's image has changed somewhat

[Drunken Viking]

I meant that Dying in Your Arms is more, well emo then the rest of the songs from that album.

[toolfreak]

Matt is GHEY he doesnt even scream the old songs anymore making them even GHEYER than him

[SimonCore]

The new direction is more thrash. I like it!

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Matt is GHEY he doesnt even scream the old songs anymore making them even GHEYER than him

Lol, ahh funny post. Yeah I can't stand Dying in Your Arms. You go through the album wanting to go kill something, like a genuine metal album. Then you get to DIYA and you want to break the cd. It just reminded me a lot of emo.

[Rattlehead]

yea yea, definately. well, more emo-influenced than plain emo. i really dont likethat song. its the only trivvers song i never listen to.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

That's what I meant, emo-influenced. One more thing to add:Heafy looks like a damn monkey.

[Drunken Viking]

It's my favorite song from them, I mean I still like the rest of the album, but the vocals bring down the songs a lot.

[psuedopilot]

a gunshot to the head of trepidation is my fave metal track of the new millenium. i love the guitar work. trivium i think are quite repetitive however gunshot being the standout track.

[Grumma]

I meant that Dying in Your Arms is more, well emo then the rest of the songs from that album.

Declaration and Departure are more emo IMO.

Not that I would say any Trivium is emo because the general message of songs such as DIYA is that you always have the choice to "break free" etc

[MRDuCran]

Declaration, emo?

It's nothing like emo. It's more thrash. I love that pre-chorus riff so much.

[Rattlehead]

yeah, and it's certainly not more emo than DIYA. but then, as i have said before, the lyric in Declaration, "bear witness to me" is sung in a very emo-esque way.

[Grumma]

Well considering the lyrics for departure are:

"this weight is so unbearable caving in my lungs
all my life is flashing in front of my eyes
run away from all the pain run away and hide"

I think it's slightly more emo than:

"when i shoved you far away now i live the life i dreamed of you're dead to me"

[MRDuCran]

God, the word emo is being thrown around too much and it's annoying. I never used to like Trivium, and I call anyone who listens to Trivium an emo becaue I like their reactions to it, but I don't seriously think they actually are. Just because he sings melodically sometimes...

[Poe350]

Quick question. Has Matt and Cory switched to Dean guitars for good? I'll miss the Les Paul if they did.

[MRDuCran]

I thought they were only alowd to use them for that one tour.

[Poe350]

I thought they were only alowd to use them for that one tour.
Man, I hope so. I personally don't like MLs unless Dime is playing them.

[MRDuCran]

I don't like them at all, so I guess I can agree. Corey's V is nice.

[Poe350]

I don't like them at all, so I guess I can agree. Corey's V is nice.Amen

[Drunken Viking]

They are using them since Dime's widow gave them to them.

[SimonCore]

I really like the new direction Trivium is going in! Well thrash. And DIYA is not an emo song.

[MRDuCran]

They are using them since Dime's widow gave them to them.

That's what I read, but also that she'd let them use them for that tour.
It was in a Guitar World mag I believe.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

I really like the new direction Trivium is going in! Well thrash. And DIYA is not an emo song.

No one ever said it was emo, just that it sounds emo-influenced. And I was saying it sounds emo because of the guitar riffs and the sound of his vocals, not the lyrics, I really don't pay too much attention to lyrics unless they actually take quite a bit of thought, like LOG's. (not saying that Trivium's didn't take thought).

[Huber]

DIYA has direct roots with Matt's early Pop-punk stage. It's really as simple as that.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

I'm going to make a drumtab for Pull Harder On The Strings of Your Martyr, does anyone have a recommendation for a tab editing program?

[Huber]

Drum tab editting programs aren't really necessary. Thought, I do remember having one a long time ago. I think I stopped using it because it was a trial or something.

You should probably just write it out in sheet music anyways. It's far easier to read.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Drum tab editting programs aren't really necessary. Thought, I do remember having one a long time ago. I think I stopped using it because it was a trial or something.

You should probably just write it out in sheet music anyways. It's far easier to read.

No dude I was thinking about posting it on mxtabs. Plus I'm getting kind of rusty with my musical theory. I don't know if I will remember how to write it as good as I could tab it.

O yeah what the hell happened with that? I heard they made tabs illegal but now mxtabs is back up and running.

[Grumma]

God, the word emo is being thrown around too much and it's annoying. I never used to like Trivium, and I call anyone who listens to Trivium an emo becaue I like their reactions to it, but I don't seriously think they actually are. Just because he sings melodically sometimes...


I dont think they are anywhere near emo.
In fact quite the opposite; a lot of their songs deal with coping things the best you can and taking a possitive outlook on things.

How can you say the lyrics to Gunshot or Pull Harder are emo?

And nor do i understand how you can label a band emo because they dont scream 99.99% of the time

[Grumma]

I'm going to make a drumtab for Pull Harder On The Strings of Your Martyr, does anyone have a recommendation for a tab editing program?

Make sure you do it properly and include the 2 bar drum fill leading into the last pre-chorus.

Unlike those slack-arse people that have submitted to mxtabs :p

[Forlorn Hope]

Hey is there any way to get the audio off of that Detonation video posted earlier into an mp3 or something. I would like to put it on my mp3 player if there is a way.

[Sir_Robert]

just because they scream doesnt mean they are emo

trivium are far from emo, they sing about how to deal with things and such

and im glad that they arent screaming much on the next one because Matt has a great voice. i like it much better and he is just singing

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Make sure you do it properly and include the 2 bar drum fill leading into the last pre-chorus.

Unlike those slack-arse people that have submitted to mxtabs :p

Oh don't worry I'm about tired of those half-a$$ed sh1tty tabs i see allover the place. I haven't done many tabs, but I think this will be damn close to the real thing. Also, to be fair. Pull Harder is a fairly difficult drum part to tell what the drummer is playing.

O yeah, might be a dumbass ?, but what would a 2 bar fill be?

Still, any recommendations for a tab editing program anyone?

[Rattlehead]

I really like the new direction Trivium is going in! Well thrash. And DIYA is not an emo song.
no, it has emo influences though. logdrummer said it right.

Well considering the lyrics for departure are:

"this weight is so unbearable caving in my lungs
all my life is flashing in front of my eyes
run away from all the pain run away and hide"

I think it's slightly more emo than:

"when i shoved you far away now i live the life i dreamed of you're dead to me"
absolutely. i was just saying, there is an emo element in Declaration.God, the word emo is being thrown around too much and it's annoying. I never used to like Trivium, and I call anyone who listens to Trivium an emo becaue I like their reactions to it, but I don't seriously think they actually are. Just because he sings melodically sometimes...
its not the melody to it, its his tone, pronunciation.
I dont think they are anywhere near emo.
In fact quite the opposite; a lot of their songs deal with coping things the best you can and taking a possitive outlook on things.

How can you say the lyrics to Gunshot or Pull Harder are emo?

And nor do i understand how you can label a band emo because they dont scream 99.99% of the time
those two songs arnt emo, nor are any trivium songs. however, DIYA is certainly emoinfluenced.

[Grumma]

no, it has emo influences though. logdrummer said it right.


absolutely. i was just saying, there is an emo element in Declaration.
its not the melody to it, its his tone, pronunciation.

those two songs arnt emo, nor are any trivium songs. however, DIYA is certainly emoinfluenced.


1. Yeah DIYA has emo influences to some extent. Though I prefer to judge emo moreso on the lyrical content than how it sounds

2. once again looking more at the lyrics than the tone of the song

3. yeah dont know whether you noticed or not (you probably did) but it was a rhetorical question and a good example of the un-emoness of Trivium

[Grumma]

Oh don't worry I'm about tired of those half-a$$ed sh1tty tabs i see allover the place. I haven't done many tabs, but I think this will be damn close to the real thing. Also, to be fair. Pull Harder is a fairly difficult drum part to tell what the drummer is playing.

O yeah, might be a dumbass ?, but what would a 2 bar fill be?

Still, any recommendations for a tab editing program anyone?

Pull Harder isnt TOO hard. just be wary of the difference in toms and china/crash cymbals. Also the tempo seems to change a fair bit.

The fill is in the last part of the song where Matt screams "PULL! HARDER!"
and first Trav doesnt do anything then does a fill involving the toms, snare and crashes (and probably bass as well)
Every tab Ive seen excludes this part

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Pull Harder isnt TOO hard. just be wary of the difference in toms and china/crash cymbals. Also the tempo seems to change a fair bit.

The fill is in the last part of the song where Matt screams "PULL! HARDER!"
and first Trav doesnt do anything then does a fill involving the toms, snare and crashes (and probably bass as well)
Every tab Ive seen excludes this part

Oh I knew what fill you were talking about, I was just trying to figure out why you called it a 2 bar fill. Do you mean a 2 measure fill...? Yeah I wasn't saying Pull Harder was extremely hard, so many songs that are much harder to tab. It's just trying to find out when he is hitting the toms, and like you said the difference between each symbol and tom. All in all it's not really complicated to play. That "2 bar fill" as you call it really isn't hard to play I know what he is doing there, I don't know if you're a drummer or not so... That fill is nothing compared to Chris Adler's "Ruin Fill"-played insanely fast.

[Aronax]

If you read my post in the Lamb of God thread, the same opinion for them applies to Trivium as well. The only difference is that Trivium are pretty decent musicians actually.

Morgoth - Body Count -- Cursed [03:36m/160Kbps/44KHz] - 1993

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

If you read my post in the Lamb of God thread, the same opinion for them applies to Trivium as well. The only difference is that Trivium are pretty decent musicians actually.

Morgoth - Body Count -- Cursed [03:36m/160Kbps/44KHz] - 1993

Ok, so now LOG's member aren't talented musicians now? I would like to see you play half the stuff they can instrumentally. Willie and Morton aren't guitar gods, but they are solid metal guitarists, and bring in their own creative and unique riffs. Chris is a drum "god" if you would ask me. I haven't heard any other band that puts as much stuff as he does into his playing. Blythe brings in brutal vocals, with intelligent lyrics, and he varies from high to low pitches, unlike many thrash and death metal vocalists. Musicianship is about a lot more than just talent, my friend. Trivium is a very talented band also, they are more than just "decent".

[Huber]

Ok, so now LOG's member aren't talented musicians now? I would like to see you play half the stuff they can instrumentally. Willie and Morton aren't guitar gods, but they are solid metal guitarists, and bring in their own creative and unique riffs. Chris is a drum "god" if you would ask me. I haven't heard any other band that puts as much stuff as he does into his playing. Blythe brings in brutal vocals, with intelligent lyrics, and he varies from high to low pitches, unlike many thrash and death metal vocalists. Musicianship is about a lot more than just talent, my friend. Trivium is a very talented band also, they are more than just "decent".

Eh...you seem a little ignorant. Especially about the bolded. I really like Randy Blythe's voice, but it isn't any more powerful than a lot of others'.

[Grumma]

That "2 bar fill" as you call it really isn't hard to play I know what he is doing there, I don't know if you're a drummer or not so...

Yeah Im a drummer: got the whole song down except for that because i havent been able to get the timing or what exactly he's playing.

My ear for music is pretty **** so yeah . . .

[Nepenthe]

Eh...you seem a little ignorant. Especially about the bolded. I really like Randy Blythe's voice, but it isn't any more powerful than a lot of others'.

Not so much ignorant, but biased. And quite uninformed.

[here comes the bird flu]

1. Yeah DIYA has emo influences to some extent. Though I prefer to judge emo moreso on the lyrical content than how it sounds

2. once again looking more at the lyrics than the tone of the song

3. yeah dont know whether you noticed or not (you probably did) but it was a rhetorical question and a good example of the un-emoness of Trivium

Trivium is definately not an 'emo' band, compared to actualy emo bands.

[Grumma]

I think thats been established lol

Because thats exactly what everyones been saying for about the last 5 pages :lol:

[here comes the bird flu]

I know. I'm just too tired to care.

[Grumma]

Haha fair enough

Anyway Trivium arent emo

[/argument]

[here comes the bird flu]

Yeah. I'm sure this has been said, but: they are EMOTIONAL, but what band isn't?

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Eh...you seem a little ignorant. Especially about the bolded. I really like Randy Blythe's voice, but it isn't any more powerful than a lot of others'.

I didn't say he is the most powerful vocalists. There are also other vocalists that are better than him. I was just trying to inform Agnorak or whatever that LOG has talented musicians. What am I ignorant about?

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Yeah Im a drummer: got the whole song down except for that because i havent been able to get the timing or what exactly he's playing.

My ear for music is pretty **** so yeah . . .

I'm guessing you're probably confused about the end part of that fill. There are very similar fills with that in it in Seasons of the Abyss(Slayer).

I'm pretty sure this is all the last part is, it sounds complicated but it is actually pretty easy. If you play that you will see it sounds like the last part.
T=mid tom,F=floor tom,B=Double Bass
z=rolls
T-zzzzzz
F-zzzzzz
B-xxxxxx

[Grumma]

Umm Im gonna presume theyre meant to be aligned differently?

[toolfreak]

Hey is there any way to get the audio off of that Detonation video posted earlier into an mp3 or something. I would like to put it on my mp3 player if there is a way.

Hey man head over to http://www.triviumworld.com and it should be there

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Umm Im gonna presume theyre meant to be aligned differently?

Well yes, I'm not even gonna try to write that out cause I'm not sure how. I'm not even sure how to explain I just hope we are thinking the same thing. If you play it the way I tabbed it, you will get pretty much the same sound, either way will work for playing.

[Rattlehead]

Yeah. I'm sure this has been said, but: they are EMOTIONAL, but what band isn't?
i think the true origin of that word as a musical genre is to be ditched. it started out as a word that simply said a band is emotional, and now it defines a genre that is indeed emotional, but many other bands are emotional and yet not emo, so to speak. the defining of a band as "emotional" should not have to rely on the actual definition of the word in this instence, that is when defining music. if a band is emo, they are emo. i don't think that its fair to argue by saying, "oh but they're not emotional".


Eh...you seem a little ignorant. Especially about the bolded. I really like Randy Blythe's voice, but it isn't any more powerful than a lot of others'.
randy is my favourite growling vocalist, and i havn't found anyone who can put quite so much much brutal feeling into his vocals as him. i agree with what he said.

3. yeah dont know whether you noticed or not (you probably did) but it was a rhetorical question and a good example of the un-emoness of Trivium
yea i did notice, it was quite dumb of me to have taken it seriously lol. you know what i mean though.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Ok, seriously, we need to stop with the whole argument over "Is Trivium emo or are some of their songs emo?". When this argument or whatever you want to call it started, we said that DIYA sounds emo, and that person(don't know if it was me or not) they meant that it is emo-influenced and that some of the other songs are a little emo-influenced. No one ever said any of these songs are emo, or that Trivium is emo. Now, can we please get back to discussion of Trivium, I would like to see some news, or hear some other tracks off The Crusade.

[Drunken Viking]

Detonation didn't really strike me as being a great song, it sounded pretty mediocre.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Detonation didn't really strike me as being a great song, it sounded pretty mediocre.

Yeah, same here. I was kind of hoping I would find their other songs to be better. I think I didn't like Detonation because it seemed like the drumming skills declined(not literally his skill, just less going on in the song).

[toolfreak]

Yeah, same here. I was kind of hoping I would find their other songs to be better. I think I didn't like Detonation because it seemed like the drumming skills declined(not literally his skill, just less going on in the song).

It did seem like travis toned his drumming down a notch aye that sucks i hope the rest of the album isnt like that

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

same here

[Trivium]

note that was the first time they had EVER played it live. Ill be honest I wasnt too psyched with it, but I bet the album version is sick

and to all you trivium haters, heres a nice big FU*CK you

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/triviumpics/kirktrivium.jpg

[here comes the bird flu]

i think the true origin of that word as a musical genre is to be ditched. it started out as a word that simply said a band is emotional, and now it defines a genre that is indeed emotional, but many other bands are emotional and yet not emo, so to speak. the defining of a band as "emotional" should not have to rely on the actual definition of the word in this instence, that is when defining music. if a band is emo, they are emo. i don't think that its fair to argue by saying, "oh but they're not emotional".



I'm not trying to but a genre label on them. I'm just stating that every band is emotional. Everybody's music has some kind of emotion, whether they want it to or not. Hate, love, greed, pain, whatever.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/triviumpics/kirktrivium.jpg

oshi

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Metallica is pretty dumb now. Kirk wheres capris, James isn't a hilarious drunk, Lars likes using pots and pans for drums, and they have a bassist that has been in like every band, o yeah, they don't know when they should quit because of how their last 2 albums SUCKED.

[Trivium]

Metallica is pretty dumb now. Kirk wheres capris, James isn't a hilarious drunk, Lars likes using pots and pans for drums, and they have a bassist that has been in like every band, o yeah, they don't know when they should quit because of how their last 2 albums SUCKED.

you must mean last 4

[Drunken Viking]

note that was the first time they had EVER played it live. Ill be honest I wasnt too psyched with it, but I bet the album version is sick

and to all you trivium haters, heres a nice big FU*CK you

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/triviumpics/kirktrivium.jpg
What? A pathetic exscuse for a band wore their shirt.

[Grumma]

You're calling the 'Tallica pathetic?

*blinks*

Do you even like any form of metal?

[Drunken Viking]

Yes, just not the **** they create.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

you must mean last 4

No, refuel and fuel were mediocre I thought, they didn't completely suck.

Drunken Viking, dude, Metallica was one of the bands that started metal...sure their later **** wasn't as good as the first 4 or 5 albums, but they aren't a "pathetic excuse for a band". Whatever it's ur opinion, even if it is a sh!tty one.

[Drunken Viking]

Really? I thought they were one of the forrunners of thrash metal. Black Sabbath came before them, but I guess we can just ignore them and all those bands from glam era, or NWOBHM era and say they weren't metal, or we could argue that Metallica influenced them from the future. Yes they are a huge band that have influenced million upon millions of people, but so have pop acts that I'm sure you despise. I am an original Metallica hater, I though MoP and RtL wer just as bad as St. Anger and TBA.

[Huber]

Metallica is much more than anyone here can even hope they will will become. They did it even whilst keeping things fresh and changing there styles. In my eyes it's a shame that anyone who wont even give a bands new direction a try, or at least admit it's good music whether they like it or not, call themselves music fans.

Really? I thought they were one of the forrunners of thrash metal. Black Sabbath came before them, but I guess we can just ignore them and all those bands from glam era, or NWOBHM era and say they weren't metal, or we could argue that Metallica influenced them from the future. Yes they are a huge band that have influenced million upon millions of people, but so have pop acts that I'm sure you despise. I am an original Metallica hater, I though MoP and RtL wer just as bad as St. Anger and TBA.

Bands like Black Sabbath usually come after people listen to Metallica. Metallica have reached way more people. Why bring up the pop acts? They may not have the talent of the people in your music do, but they appeal to there fans just like your bands appeal to you. It's not as different as you think. You just took the harder music direction.

[Drunken Viking]

I didn't say anything was wrong with pop. I was clearly comparing pop to being as inlfuencial as Metallica. I don't like Metallica, I probably never will. Can we just end this argument?

[Flynn]

Wow, I come in this thread and the first thing I see is ''Pop'' and ''Metallica''


/go back one page

[Grumma]

Anyway has anyone found an audio version of Detonation that could be put onto like an ipod cos I want one :(

[Drunken Viking]

If you have an Ipod video I could get you a version, but if not let me know and I'll try to convert it into audio.

[Grumma]

Ive got an Ipod mini

Hmmm I could ask my friend to rip the audio for me but he doesnt like Trivium that much and hasnt ripped it the last half dozen times Ive asked him :lol:

[Drunken Viking]

I could try to get you an audio version, when my friend gets on AIM.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Really? I thought they were one of the forrunners of thrash metal. Black Sabbath came before them, but I guess we can just ignore them and all those bands from glam era, or NWOBHM era and say they weren't metal, or we could argue that Metallica influenced them from the future. Yes they are a huge band that have influenced million upon millions of people, but so have pop acts that I'm sure you despise. I am an original Metallica hater, I though MoP and RtL wer just as bad as St. Anger and TBA.

Yeah I never said any of those bands didn't help start today's metal. I think I clearly stated that Metallica was ONE of the bands that started metal...and this is the rock and metal section of the forum...no one cares about pop in here.

[Grumma]

Haha too true about the pop part

[Drunken Viking]

Yeah I never said any of those bands didn't help start today's metal. I think I clearly stated that Metallica was ONE of the bands that started metal...and this is the rock and metal section of the forum...no one cares about pop in here.
I realize you said that, and I'm saying that they didn't start metal. They have yes defintely influenced a lot of the newer metal, but they didn't start metal in general. They started to get real succes with Kill 'Em All, that was released in 1983. Before that there were already glam bands, Iron Maiden had released a few albums, Ozzy had started his solo carrer already, Judas Priest had released a few albums including the highly succesful British Steel. They didn't start metal, they were already dozens of bands before them, they might've helped to gain popularity. And the pop thing, it was just used as a comparison, that obviously failed.

[Dreaming Neon Black]

I realize you said that, and I'm saying that they didn't start metal. They have yes defintely influenced a lot of the newer metal, but they didn't start metal in general. They started to get real succes with Kill 'Em All, that was released in 1983. Before that there were already glam bands, Iron Maiden had released a few albums, Ozzy had started his solo carrer already, Judas Priest had released a few albums including the highly succesful British Steel. They didn't start metal, they were already dozens of bands before them, they might've helped to gain popularity. And the pop thing, it was just used as a comparison, that obviously failed.


IMO, Metallica was the extra boost that drove Metal over the edge into popularity. Ozzy/Priest/Maiden all them began the revolution, and bands like Metallica/etc. brought it forth.

[Drunken Viking]

Which is what I said, they got it more popular, about as popular as the Glam momement which was huge.

[toolfreak]

Anyway has anyone found an audio version of Detonation that could be put onto like an ipod cos I want one :(

dude go to www.triviumworld.com theres audio there i believe i posted that the other day

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

I realize you said that, and I'm saying that they didn't start metal. They have yes defintely influenced a lot of the newer metal, but they didn't start metal in general. They started to get real succes with Kill 'Em All, that was released in 1983. Before that there were already glam bands, Iron Maiden had released a few albums, Ozzy had started his solo carrer already, Judas Priest had released a few albums including the highly succesful British Steel. They didn't start metal, they were already dozens of bands before them, they might've helped to gain popularity. And the pop thing, it was just used as a comparison, that obviously failed.

Yes, so they helped start metal. By gaining more popularity into the genre, it inspired many people to start bands. So Pantera might have been influenced by them and half of the metal bands today are too, ultimately helping to start and expand metal to what it is today.

[Drunken Viking]

The popularized metal, that's not the same thing as starting it. I can make coke popular by gaining popularity and influening people to buy it, does that mean I started it? NO!

[Rattlehead]

Metallica is much more than anyone here can even hope they will will become. They did it even whilst keeping things fresh and changing there styles. In my eyes it's a shame that anyone who wont even give a bands new direction a try, or at least admit it's good music whether they like it or not, call themselves music fans.



Bands like Black Sabbath usually come after people listen to Metallica. Metallica have reached way more people. Why bring up the pop acts? They may not have the talent of the people in your music do, but they appeal to there fans just like your bands appeal to you. It's not as different as you think. You just took the harder music direction.
agreed. you said it well. especially the first bit.

IMO, Metallica was the extra boost that drove Metal over the edge into popularity. Ozzy/Priest/Maiden all them began the revolution, and bands like Metallica/etc. brought it forth.
this is exactly what i would have said.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

The popularized metal, that's not the same thing as starting it. I can make coke popular by gaining popularity and influening people to buy it, does that mean I started it? NO!

Lol, ok dude, calm down, I misunderstood what you were saying. I get it now, just don't have a stroke.

[Drunken Viking]

Lol, sorry if it seemed harsh I was just trying to get my point across. We cool?

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Yeah no prob dude, we're cool, I respect the fact that you would ask me that. At least you're not an asshole like everyone else.

Do you play any instrument?

[Drunken Viking]

Guitar and bass, you play drums right?

[benfan]

Trivium performance at download = Meh.........abit dissapointed/gutted, they were ok, not half as good as the times iv seen them at rock city-nottingham. Detonation sounded 10 times better live then on you-tube......i just wish matt would scream the old songs, but apparently he cant because hes doing serious damage because his vocal chords havnt matured enough to be screaming yet......owww

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Guitar and bass, you play drums right?

Yeah, for 4 years, where do u live?

[MRDuCran]

Trivium performance at download = Meh.........abit dissapointed/gutted, they were ok, not half as good as the times iv seen them at rock city-nottingham. Detonation sounded 10 times better live then on you-tube......i just wish matt would scream the old songs, but apparently he cant because hes doing serious damage because his vocal chords havnt matured enough to be screaming yet......owww

I don't think it's that his vocal cords haven't matured yet, I think he just used to do it wrong. Apparantly, Corey Taylor has good technique because he can switch between clean and distorted and anywhere in between. Matt seems to just have a one dimensional voice when he's screaming.

[TEST]

I don't think it's that his vocal cords haven't matured yet, I think he just used to do it wrong. Apparantly, Corey Taylor has good technique because he can switch between clean and distorted and anywhere in between. Matt seems to just have a one dimensional voice when he's screaming.
Coreys screams were worse than Matt's when I saw Trivium. That's saying a lot, because Matt's were an ear sore alright.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah Corey doesn't sound like he's doing it right either. Neither do I when I do it but it sounds good and I only do it like 4/5 times in 1 song so it's no big deal.

Corey sings loads now that Matt doesn't scream. I think it's in Rain where he sings the whole verse, not positive though.

[Trivium]

Yeah Corey doesn't sound like he's doing it right either. Neither do I when I do it but it sounds good and I only do it like 4/5 times in 1 song so it's no big deal.

Corey sings loads now that Matt doesn't scream. I think it's in Rain where he sings the whole verse, not positive though.

in like light to the flies corey sings the whole "those who run will be burned" part

[MRDuCran]

Yeah I think I remember that bit, but I don't think that's the bit I'm thinking of now.

[Grumma]

At old live shows he (corey) used to help out in pull harder a fair bit as well

[Drunken Viking]

I hate Corey's voice, his scream sounds really bad, I'd prefer it if he just did clean vocals along with Matt.

[chorbalan]

He sounded fine live.

[nowitzki]

Yeah I think I remember that bit, but I don't think that's the bit I'm thinking of now.
He sang the whole of the verses furing one of the songs they played from Ember to Inferno.
It was the 3rd time I've seen Trivium live, and easily the best I reckon. They just seem to get better and better.

[SimonCore]

^Yeah Corey sang all of the verse of Ember to inferno when I saw them aswell. In alot of the older songs they seemed to both be at the mic, and it seemed to be like half singing, half screaming.

[MRDuCran]

He sang the whole of the verses furing one of the songs they played from Ember to Inferno.
It was the 3rd time I've seen Trivium live, and easily the best I reckon. They just seem to get better and better.

Maybe it was that then.

Did he sing Rain too?

[Britton]

So guys


I want to buy this beenie

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=TRIV

But I'm getting a error. Do you know if there is another place I could get this?

[Trivium]

just go on the trivium.org forums and someone will take care of it

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

If Trivium has awesome drumming like in Ascencendancy in the Crusade it will be awesome, I don't mind his "metallica like" vocals.

[SimonCore]

What was thier set at Download?

[Grumma]

That's on their forum somewhere as well :P

And I second whoever said they dont mind the Metallica stylin vox

[benfan]

What was thier set at Download?

Rain
Like Light To The Flies
Ember To Inferno
Detonation *New Song*
Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation
Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr

i may of missed one or two out but i dont think so.

[nowitzki]

They also played Drowned And Torn Asunder. I love that song.

[MRDuCran]

I enjoyed their set. I like all of those songs.

[SimonCore]

Yeah that's a good set list. I also like the new song 'Detonation'.

[Grumma]

I enjoyed their set. I like all of those songs.


I like all the songs off Ascendancy so if I ever get to a Trivium gig Im good :thumb:

[Trivium]

Rain
Like Light To The Flies
Ember To Inferno
Detonation *New Song*
Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation
Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr

i may of missed one or two out but i dont think so.

no

End Of Everything
Rain
Light To Flies
Drowned & Torn Asunder
Ember To Inferno
Detonation
Gunshot
Dying
Pull Harder

[Trivium]

http://www.trivium-u.com/

was just re done with a ton of new media for all you fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qId9NjvFDeE&search=trivium%20download

and that the best download footage out there right now

[MRDuCran]

Has Matt had a crapload of tattoos done lately or have I just not seen them before?

[Drunken Viking]

Hahaha, they turned off his mic.

[MRDuCran]

Do any of the members listen to Dark Tranquility???

I'm listening to Feast of Burden and the riff sounds exactly the same as Ember to Inferno, just a little bit slower.

[Grumma]

Has Matt had a crapload of tattoos done lately or have I just not seen them before?


Well in the clip for Pull Harder i didnt notice any and every new pic I see of him he seems to have more

[MRDuCran]

Yeah exactly, no tattoos here:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.de/shared/pictures/RoadrunnerUnited/matthew-_k_heafy_01_.jpg

BUT!! Check out his index finger, it looks like it's huge because his shoulder is behind.

[Mr_Bounce]

Really? I could tell the difference pretty well.. probably becuase you said to watch out for the shoulder :D

[MRDuCran]

Ah ok, well try going back from a screen a little bit, and it should look like a giant finger, kinda like that scan of the buckethead highschool picture.

[-The Frank]

Hahaha, they turned off his mic.
Rightly so though, matt sounded terrible durring Gunshot, the only saving grace was corey and paolo's singing.

I'd still go see them anyway.

[Mr_Bounce]

I can kinda see where you're coming from :p

[playguitar]

Does their singer always change the singing parts live? And not sing.

[MRDuCran]

Does their singer always change the singing parts live? And not sing.

*Used to.

He now sings everything and doesn't scream. If there is any screaming coming from the speakers, it'll be by Corey, the guitarist.

[Forlorn Hope]

I can't decide if I will miss the screaming or be happy that The Crusade will be mostly singing and Hetfield-ish...

Wow I haven't posted in awhile.

[MRDuCran]

I thought it sounded pretty good on that new song, but when he tries to sing a melody on like Gunshot, I think it sounds stupid.

[Drunken Viking]

It doesn't fit the old songs at all, they'd be better off just making Corey learn how to scream and have him do the old ones live.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah definately. His scream sounds a little too forced, like the way most people try to scream, which will actually damage your throat.

[Drunken Viking]

At this rate the two main singers will have both blown out their voices. :lol:

I haven't seen Trivium, but anyone who has does he still abuse the crap out of crowd singing like this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wu0ZXBow8s&mode=related&search=trivium%20download)

[MRDuCran]

What do you mean?

I was in that crowd btw. :cool:

[Drunken Viking]

Lucky!
I meant does he still abuse crowd singing, like he didn't sing any of the choruses, and only like one of the parts after the chorus.

[MRDuCran]

Oh right. Um, at Download 06 he did actually sing I think all of it.

Here, check it out:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qId9NjvFDeE&search=download%20trivium

[Mr_Bounce]

I gotta say, I don't prefer that voice. He's shouting, almost only one note :\ Well whatever they gotta do though. A7X's Shadows got his voice ****ed up and I like his singing on CoE (probably heavily layered audio tricks?), maybe Matt can work on his voice and get it passable.

[Drunken Viking]

No, he'll just sing like he does now, and screw up his voice again.

[Mr_Bounce]

That was harsh, but probably true :p

[MRDuCran]

I got my Trivium pics developed today, but they're kinda far away 'cause I went back a bit since I had been at the front for the rest of the bands that day but whatever, they're still pics. Quality isn't the best though, just disposable cameras.

[SimonCore]

I was so glad when I saw Trivium he didn't let the crowd sing anything at all! He did it all himself!

[MRDuCran]

That's what he did at Download too. Pretty cool.

[Huber]

When I saw Trivium I think he only let the crowd sing like once, and I think it was during the Pantera covers anyways.

It was awesome when I saw them. Great experience.

[Grumma]

Yeah; I downloaded the audio from the Detonation video and everytime I hear it I like it better.

And Im sure Matt's vocals are likely to sound a bit more like singing than shouting/yelling than they are on the Detonation vid

[Corkofski]

hey guys, im gonna be putting a RR roadrage '05 DVD signed by the whole band on ebay later tonight, anyone want it? sure we can arrange something to give a MXer preferential treatment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220007601106&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:UK:11

[xClevelandx]

To put it simply, Trivium is amazing. I have both Ember To Inferno and Ascendancy and love each album. Ascendancy being their strongest album of course but both are definatly worth checking out for anybody who's looking to get into them.

[Corkofski]

yea

[MRDuCran]

Have you guys seen the Interpretation of Trivium on youtube??

Although I am a fan of Trivium, I still found it hilarious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs&search=interpretation%20trivium

[Corkofski]

Have you guys seen the Interpretation of Trivium on youtube??

Although I am a fan of Trivium, I still found it hilarious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs&search=interpretation%20trivium
yea, theres 2 around, theres a drowned and torn one, and a pull harder one.

cba to look at that one, goin to bed now

[MRDuCran]

I've seen a Like Light to Files too but that sucked. This one however, is brilliant.

[xClevelandx]

I like Trivium but that video was hilarious.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah exactly my thoughts.

I like the pics of Matt's face at the part:

"I am here to rike bike" :lol:

Just so many good moments.

[Arlan89]

I own Ascendancy. It's quite cool except the metalcore vocals start to annoy after like half an hour. The Youtube interpretation vid is an instant classic.