The Trivium Thread, Bitches

[nowitzki]

Now you do, seeing as you deleted one. :(

[gillygan]

Most new bands now haave a good cop bad cop kinda vocal thing. We just wanted to go one way all the way, so we went bad cop.


So Amott said somthin along those lines, and i agree 100%.

[Britton]

Now you do, seeing as you deleted one. :(

You can do the same...but it doesn't really matter.

Does the radio station in your local town/city play Trivium? Mine never does...

[mr black]

Can't say Aussie radio stations play anything else except house, black guys holding their dicks and cheesy ballads... Although i did hear Davidian - Machine Head, the other day on Triple R. That was cool :thumb:

How long till their new album, i have an inkling it'll have the same awsome music but they'll go for the money and have more autotuned monkey business in their music :(

[Britton]

Can't say Aussie radio stations play anything else except house, black guys holding their dicks and cheesy ballads... Although i did hear Davidian - Machine Head, the other day on Triple R. That was cool :thumb:

How long till their new album, i have an inkling it'll have the same awsome music but they'll go for the money and have more autotuned monkey business in their music :(


God I hope not. It' supposed to be out around the end of the year!

[mr black]

mmm well i guess ill have to wait till 2007 to see them live then...

[nowitzki]

http://youtube.com/w/Trivium---Walk%28Pantera%29?v=n7rAAccVV48&search=pantera
a video of Trivium playing part of Walk and A Gunshot to the Head.. live on Dimebag signature guitars... pretty cool.

[iamtheking]

I think Matt Heafys voice isn't that bad...

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Is Ember to Inferno album worth buying? I already have ascendancy.

[Britton]

Is Ember to Inferno album worth buying? I already have ascendancy.

Yea it's worth it. It's not as good as ascendancy but it's still fun.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Yea it's worth it. It's not as good as ascendancy but it's still fun.

Kool, thanks

[Carn]

I just saw this band called Silent Civilian at the Whiskey in Hollywood, CA. The lead singer looked exactly like a chunkier version of Matt Heafy. He even did some of the same facial expressions.


HAHA

that's Johnny Santos..AKA the singer from Spineshank :D

[Forlorn Hope]

Is Ember to Inferno album worth buying? I already have ascendancy.
My favorite off that album is When All Light Dies.

[Shred Danson]

Yea it's worth it. It's not as good as ascendancy but it's still fun.

I agree. Good album, but not their best of the two. Defenitely trivium "coming of age" :p (they were only a band 3 years when they released it, right?)

[Hodgetts]

Na, I reckon Heafy's vocals are awesome. Iv'e heard em live too. He's just like James Hetfield was. Young and growing voice. It will develop and become alot better. He should stay the vocalist, he has already got that role developed for him.

[nowitzki]

Even if hes not the best vocalist ever, he is a great frontman.

[to_Burn_The_Eye]

Yeh I think he is a great vocalist and he has an awesome voice screaming and singing.

Not long to I see them now with bloodsimple and god forbid, should be a very good show. Anyone seeing them when they come to the UK?

My local radio station doesn't play anything except for pop music and very occasionaly rock music that is in the chart, but it is pretty rubbish really.

[Benzum]

They came randomly on TV late last night, played one song "Pull Harder...."
I honestly thought it was terrible, the sound was appauling, Matt kinda let the crowd do the "singing" parts, and did really weak screaming here and there. I shook my head while watching that :(

[00 Dick]

yeah triviums pretty sic but the vocals dont blend with the music to well

[Benzum]

Nah, the vocals on the studio recordings are fine, they could do so much more with them when playing live, though.

[nowitzki]

That's exaclty what I've thought the times I've seen them live, he always avoids singing the clean parts, and when he does it sounds quite poor. His stage presence does make up for it to some extent, but he seriously needs to work on his singing voice live.

[mr black]

Look, we settled this a long time ago...

The only people that say he has a good singing voice are ones that think he's actually singing the clean parts in the studio. He is 'singing' them, but please keep in mind that its blatantly heavily auto-tuned. His voice is not going to get any better because he does the screaming all wrong (the same way i got laryngitis) and his voice is only going to degrade more and more as he tears his vocal chords apart with his nOOb screaming.

Front man and guitarist status aside, both of which he excells greatly in. Can we all agree that the guy isn't exactly a great singer. Im not saying he's bad, because as imperfect as his live performances are vocally he still keeps it together enough for the song to be done justice, but honestly my grandmother has a better clean singing voice than he does. Even when he does sing the clean bits which is rare, he's singing it about 4 octaves down and sounds like he can barely get the word out before he runs out of breath and his voice breaks.

[RockGuitarist501]

my friend got me into trivium and i think they are great. the guitar work is amazing. the vocals are meh, but when he acually 'sings' its pretty good. great band. :)

[Forlorn Hope]

Look, we settled this a long time ago...

The only people that say he has a good singing voice are ones that think he's actually singing the clean parts in the studio. He is 'singing' them, but please keep in mind that its blatantly heavily auto-tuned. His voice is not going to get any better because he does the screaming all wrong (the same way i got laryngitis) and his voice is only going to degrade more and more as he tears his vocal chords apart with his nOOb screaming.

Front man and guitarist status aside, both of which he excells greatly in. Can we all agree that the guy isn't exactly a great singer. Im not saying he's bad, because as imperfect as his live performances are vocally he still keeps it together enough for the song to be done justice, but honestly my grandmother has a better clean singing voice than he does. Even when he does sing the clean bits which is rare, he's singing it about 4 octaves down and sounds like he can barely get the word out before he runs out of breath and his voice breaks.
What exactly does auto-tuned mean?

[nowitzki]

There's technology available to adjust vocals after they've been recorded so they are accurately in tune. It can also make instruments perfectly in tune, and drums exactly in time. They're referred to as Pro Tools.

[Britton]

There's technology available to adjust vocals after they've been recorded so they are accurately in tune. It can also make instruments perfectly in tune, and drums exactly in time. They're referred to as Pro Tools.

Yea they are really cool

[Forlorn Hope]

There's technology available to adjust vocals after they've been recorded so they are accurately in tune. It can also make instruments perfectly in tune, and drums exactly in time. They're referred to as Pro Tools.
So basically, cheating and editing so the band sounds better than they actually are? Sounds pretty lame to me...

Just the concept I don't like. I mean, I would much rather listen to the Ascendency album with auto-tuning, because it does sound a lot better, but it's still cheating in a way I think.

[Britton]

So basically, cheating and editing so the band sounds better than they actually are? Sounds pretty lame to me...

Just the concept I don't like. I mean, I would much rather listen to the Ascendency album with auto-tuning, because it does sound a lot better, but it's still cheating in a way I think.

Well it is in a way....but Ascendancy is beautifull

[podbassist]

listenin to pull harder on the strings of your martyr right now, god ascendancy is such a great album

[Shred Danson]

listenin to pull harder on the strings of your martyr right now, god ascendancy is such a great album

I get sick of that song after a while :p

Where you been, man?

[podbassist]

I get sick of that song after a while :p

Where you been, man?

Under a rock, nah just workin and stuff thts why i havent been postin here lately

[i am the robots]

Pull Harder does tend to get old after a while, but if you don't listen to Trivium at all for a while and you come back to them, along with Like Lights to Flies, Pillars of Serpents, and Rain, Pull Harder really shines.

[podbassist]

Another song on ascendancy that is extremely good is a gunshot to the head of trepidation, love the intro drum line

[mr black]

Yeah after not listening to them its always nice to come back to them, pull harder is sucha bad arse song its a good one to listen to after a long break. Especially the breakdown after the 2nd chorus, so bad arse. To any other auto-tuning questions its the magical computer program that makes britney spears and hoobastank sound like operah singers.

[Britton]

Hey I got this from the Trivium site.

A quote from the NY Times about the Underworld Soundtrack:
"Best of all is an appearance from the thrilling young Florida band Trivium, which contributes "Washing Away Me in the Tides," previously available as a bonus track on the Japanese version of the band's recent album, Ascendancy (Roadrunner). As the band cycles through restless riffs, galloping breaks and (inevitably) guitar solos, the lead singer, Matthew K. Heafy, snarls, "Everything smells of you/ Even the gasoline that covers you." This might be the most exuberant song on the whole CD."


Does anyone have this song?

[Panvium]

Yea I'd also like to hear it.

[Forlorn Hope]

Hey I got this from the Trivium site.

A quote from the NY Times about the Underworld Soundtrack:
"Best of all is an appearance from the thrilling young Florida band Trivium, which contributes "Washing Away Me in the Tides," previously available as a bonus track on the Japanese version of the band's recent album, Ascendancy (Roadrunner). As the band cycles through restless riffs, galloping breaks and (inevitably) guitar solos, the lead singer, Matthew K. Heafy, snarls, "Everything smells of you/ Even the gasoline that covers you." This might be the most exuberant song on the whole CD."


Does anyone have this song?
I have it...
three_over_one@msn.com

[Huber]

I'm seeing Trivium next week :cool:

[Forlorn Hope]

I'm seeing Trivium next week :cool:
I like Trivium a lot, but I have to say they were dissapointing to see live. They sped everything up a bunch (including Rain) and Matt didn't sing any of the clean vocals right. (sigh) It was still cool just to see them. The concert was worth it too because I got to see Children Of Bodom and Amon Amarth. :D

[Britton]

I like Trivium a lot, but I have to say they were dissapointing to see live. They sped everything up a bunch (including Rain) and Matt didn't sing any of the clean vocals right. (sigh) It was still cool just to see them. The concert was worth it too because I got to see Children Of Bodom and Amon Amarth. :D


Yea I saw them on that tour too. Amon Amarth Kicked *** and Trivium Owned
and COB is just classic.

I couldn't beleive how fast they played Rain...I was really impressed by their performance. I had seen some stuff off of their website...and I didn't think the show would be very good. But they came out and started good kept the energy and finished good

[gillygan]

So Amott said somthin along those lines, and i agree 100%.


Im suprised noone conversed bout this.

[Huber]

I like Trivium a lot, but I have to say they were dissapointing to see live. They sped everything up a bunch (including Rain) and Matt didn't sing any of the clean vocals right. (sigh) It was still cool just to see them. The concert was worth it too because I got to see Children Of Bodom and Amon Amarth. :D

Yeah, it was the same way at Ozzfest. Oh well, at least I don't have high expectations.

[Thrash em all]

for eny one who dos not no triviums next album is
The Crusade

[NeverOpethDeth]

I saw a live clip of trivium performing pull harder on teh strings of your martyr and it kicked the studio versions *** matt sang much better he still had a growl but it was much improved. I think if they were to sing like i saw there it would be a huge improvement becuase on the cd his vocals are less the amazing. good band with potential however.

[PAJJ]

Not that big a fan of the whole growling vocal style, but really liked the guitar work on the album. Read in TG that they're going for a different style of vocals for the next record.

"Vocally it's going to be quite different with not so much gutteral screaming as on Ascendancy. The main voice is going to be more raspy and intense, so it's kind of a new vocal styling"

Should be interesting to hear, and sounds like an improvent in the vocals which is IMO the weakest part of the record.

[FarFromElysium]

Capharnaum >
^ ****ing sick^:chug:

[Britton]

for eny one who dos not no triviums next album is
The Crusade


Yea we know. Can't wait either.

[panthersfan16]

whats the expected release date?

[ghettoeddo]

just got into these guys...i have ascendancy and ember to inferno. other than that, i guess there's no point to my post.

[playguitar]

Terrible live performance at ozzfest.

[Britton]

So I'm buying some shirts

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TRIV&Product_Code=TRIVIUM:TRVBA-T

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TRIV&Product_Code=TRIVIUM%3ATRVMAR-T

And I also want this one

http://merchnow.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TRIV&Product_Code=TRIVIUM%3ATRVASC2-T

But that will have to be down the road

Shoot those lnks don't work...

anyway they are the Blue angel shirt the Martyr shirt and eventually the ascendandy shirt

[nowitzki]

I have a long sleeve Trivium shirt that I got at the Roadrage tour, pretty cool :cool:

[Britton]

I have a long sleeve Trivium shirt that I got at the Roadrage tour, pretty cool :cool:


Sweet! does it have the dates on the back of it?

[nowitzki]

Yeah, the front is a big Trivium logo and Ascendancy, and the back has to Roadrunner Roadrage logo thing with the skulls, and the tour dates.

[Britton]

Yeah, the front is a big Trivium logo and Ascendancy, and the back has to Roadrunner Roadrage logo thing with the skulls, and the tour dates.


That's awsome. I'm gonna get a ascendancy tour shirt at some point. But I'm not sure how much I will wear it.

[nowitzki]

Has anyone seen this:
http://www.gauntletwallpaper.com/images/4/541.jpg
Early Trivium, check out Heafy with the big hair.

[Britton]

Wow that's awsome. When is that? about 01 02?

[Slipknot_fan69]

Great thread!

I really like Trivium personally, I find their riffs and solos so deep and powerful. Like light to flies is my favourite song.

I still can't make my mind up as to whos the better guitarist. Matt or Corey....

Anyway, rock on Trivium! \m/

[Britton]

Great thread!

I really like Trivium personally, I find their riffs and solos so deep and powerful. Like light to flies is my favourite song.

I still can't make my mind up as to whos the better guitarist. Matt or Corey....

Anyway, rock on Trivium! \m/

Hey welcome to MX! and to the Trivium thread! I couldn't agree with you more

[NeverOpethDeth]

I agree on the solos and the music part they do have cool emotional solos and some interesting rythms sometimes

[Britton]

I agree on the solos and the music part they do have cool emotional solos and some interesting rythms sometimes

Yea they sure do


I love your name man.

So Trivium isn't coming back here until proabably the cruesade tour. So I'll have to make my way to austin somehow (70 miles up the road)

[Forlorn Hope]

Yea they sure do


I love your name man.

So Trivium isn't coming back here until proabably the cruesade tour. So I'll have to make my way to austin somehow (70 miles up the road)
When is their new album supposed to be released?

[Britton]

When is their new album supposed to be released?

http://triviumworld.com/nextalbum.php

I can't wait

[Forlorn Hope]

http://triviumworld.com/nextalbum.php

I can't wait
Awesome...I'm looking forward to hearing the instrumental, and seeing what they can do with the 7-string. Sounds like this one is going to be a big step from Ascendancy :D

[Katana]

C:\d0cuments and Settings\Compaq_Owner\My d0cuments\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Trivium\Ember To Inferno\02 Pillars Of Serpents.m4a

listen to this song if you haven't got ember to inferno.
it isnt working

































































ROFL

[Britton]

Awesome...I'm looking forward to hearing the instrumental, and seeing what they can do with the 7-string. Sounds like this one is going to be a big step from Ascendancy :D

Ascendancy was Brilliant!

Yea I also can't wait to hear the 80's type Ballad.

I think they are gonna get some more attention through this year with the non stop touring and the Dying in your arms single.

Look at the tour dates those are crazy

[Lieutenant Dan]

Don't know if this has been posted before, but:

http://www.youtube.com/w/metal?v=eqqrwRpIQRc&search=metal

Corey = pwn

[Britton]

Yea Corey is awsome

I think I prefer Matt though...not really sure why...I like e'km both though

[Lieutenant Dan]

Yeah, I like Corey for some reason I don't know, either. :P

I dig his tone more, too.

[Britton]

They both rock

How old is Corey?

How long have you been listening to Trivium?

[Lieutenant Dan]

Since I got the issue of Guitar World with Corey and Matt giving lessons on the CD. I believe that was last September/October. I think Corey is about 23.

[Britton]

Hmm I missed that issue...oops

that sounds about right.

Have you seen them live?

[Lieutenant Dan]

No. :upset:

Only been to one concert, ZZ Top at the Az State Fair. I've seen a couple videos of them live, though. Awesome.

[Britton]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=Trivium&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

This is a great site

they have a bunch of Trivium videos

[The Feeding]

Ascendancy is easily one of the best CD's released in a while, especially for metal. and don't go around calling them metalcore, that term makes me want to stab. they sound like Metallica without being being blasphemous to Metallica. Every member of that band has talent compared by few, not to mention the age, but this is how it was in the glory days of Slayer, Metallica,Megadeth and it's nice to see a band with talent getting respect.

[The Feeding]

They both rock

How old is Corey?

How long have you been listening to Trivium?


Corey, the lead guitarist is 22 or 23
Matt is around 21
Travis is around 24

i've been a fan since i got the CD about a year ago

[Britton]

I think Matt is nearly twenty.

Yea the whole band is talented. I'd say matt has the most talant then cory Travis and Paulo.

Travis has awsome technique

[The Feeding]

Capharnaum >
Matt Heafy did vox for Jason Suecof & co on the new album.....

[jaymz_is_god]

Corey, the lead guitarist is 22 or 23
Matt is around 21
Travis is around 24

i've been a fan since i got the CD about a year ago

Corey is 22. Matt is 20. Travis is 23.

Anyone from the UK seeing them on the upcoming tour?

I'm going to see them in Belfast on the 5th of March. Twice within a year! :) Seen them in September.

They are absolutely awesome live. Cool guys too. They came out to speak to the fans afterwards and I got a pick, autographs and photos with them :)

[seth23k]

i off to go see them in Leeds, my friend has seen them before and said they are awesome live, so i think it should be a good gig

[Forlorn Hope]

i off to go see them in Leeds, my friend has seen them before and said they are awesome live, so i think it should be a good gig
They speed all of their songs up quite a bit when they play them live...personally, I think they get carried away with stage presence, and they forget the aspects of playing their songs clean and at the right tempo. Matt also tends to mess with the clean vocal parts of the song. I love the band, and Ascendancy is one of my favorite albums right now, but I was dissapointed when I saw them live. :(

[Britton]

Corey is 22. Matt is 20. Travis is 23.

Anyone from the UK seeing them on the upcoming tour?

I'm going to see them in Belfast on the 5th of March. Twice within a year! :) Seen them in September.

They are absolutely awesome live. Cool guys too. They came out to speak to the fans afterwards and I got a pick, autographs and photos with them :)


Yea I saw them with Children Of Bodom and Amon Amarth. and afterwords
they all came out. I got a pick from matt (it's actually not one of his) I got his autograph. And I got to meet and talk to Alexi for about 5 minutes.

I had the best time when I saw that show. FOr one I had never even heard AA and they came out opened up the show and Kicked *** the whole time. THen Trivium came out. I was expecting a avrage show from them...but man was I wrong. Then there was the legendary COB...god I'll never forget that one.

[nowitzki]

|I'm listening to Ascendency for the first time in a while right now. It is such a great album. Well all except for Dying In Your Arms. I can't believe thats going to be the next single.
I love the drum beat at about 2 mins 30 in Drowned And Torn Asunder.

[DC_rhoads82]

I saw Trivium w/ Bodom in December, and Trivium w/ arch enemy last summer...both times I went for the other bands and Not Trivium, however they have grown on me. They put on great shows but I do however prefer it when Matt actually sings the clean parts instead of just mouthing them along to the croud. Its all good though, Corey's a killer player...and he plays a KV2...thats sweet. lol.

[PoWaToM]

I actually think Trivium are pretty good, but I saw them live when they weren't as big as they are now, and I have to say I much preferred 3IOB. Also, the singer was a prick to us whereas 3IOB were ****ing cool. So I'm biased :P

[Grinch]

i listened to pullder....... on the kerrang nomanies free album and loved it straight away i went out and bought acendency and liked it even more!!!! i managed to get about 10 people who preveosly hated metal into metal all because of trivium. They are amazing they dont allways have the shouting of other bands they have great singing aswell thats why i like them so much i still think they've got a long way to go though and could simply take over the metal scene!!

[Huber]

|I'm listening to Ascendency for the first time in a while right now. It is such a great album. Well all except for Dying In Your Arms. I can't believe thats going to be the next single.
I love the drum beat at about 2 mins 30 in Drowned And Torn Asunder.

At the In Flames show I saw them at, they taped us for Dying In Your Arms and said that we'd see ourselves on TV soon. I think it might be the video for it.

[Britton]

At the In Flames show I saw them at, they taped us for Dying In Your Arms and said that we'd see ourselves on TV soon. I think it might be the video for it.


(Me)Dude awsome! what do you look like? I'll look for you.

(you) well I'm wearing black and I'm in the pit

(Me) OH...

[burn_my_eyes]

Don't get me wrong, i like Trivium, they are a good band live...
Yet with their recent publicity, it makes me feel they will change their style and their new album will be emo...
Hey, i could be wrong though..

[Britton]

Don't get me wrong, i like Trivium, they are a good band live...
Yet with their recent publicity, it makes me feel they will change their style and their new album will be emo...
Hey, i could be wrong though..

You will be.

[The Cynic]

At the In Flames show I saw them at, they taped us for Dying In Your Arms and said that we'd see ourselves on TV soon. I think it might be the video for it.


They said they wew planning on one, although thats not what they had in mind.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Doubt that their new album will be 'emo'. They'll lose a lot of fans if they do considering how they've spent a year telling people how much they dislike the current side-swept hair pop-punk in eye-liner scene and I'm guessing they've become popular partly because they've been hyped enough to offer a decent alternative to that sort of music.

Plus, I've scene some pre-realease info for the new album and according to Matt it's gonna be more technical and they've got a big 8-10 minute instrumental in it as well.

[Huber]

(Me)Dude awsome! what do you look like? I'll look for you.

(you) well I'm wearing black and I'm in the pit

(Me) OH...

I'll be on the left with the Iron Maiden Powerslave shirt.

I sure hope it's the video. That'd be badass.

[Britton]

I'll be on the left with the Iron Maiden Powerslave shirt.

I sure hope it's the video. That'd be badass.


Yea that would be really cool.

I can't wait to hear that instrumental

[mr black]

Doubt that their new album will be 'emo'. They'll lose a lot of fans if they do considering how they've spent a year telling people how much they dislike the current side-swept hair pop-punk in eye-liner scene and I'm guessing they've become popular partly because they've been hyped enough to offer a decent alternative to that sort of music.

Plus, I've scene some pre-realease info for the new album and according to Matt it's gonna be more technical and they've got a big 8-10 minute instrumental in it as well.


Forgive me if im wrong but in the gunshot filmclip does he not have side swept black hair and eyeliner ? :smash:

[Britton]

Forgive me if im wrong but in the gunshot filmclip does he not have side swept black hair and eyeliner ? :smash:


LoL Good point.

To tell ya'll the truth though...I really couldn't give a good god damn what Trivium wears

[RockGuitarist501]

Im going to see Trivium tonight in Detroit with In Flames, Zao, and Devil Driver. Trivium is really the only band i like out of those other bands. but it should be a great show. I think Trivium kicks ***. :)

[Shred Danson]

Im going to see Trivium tonight in Detroit with In Flames, Zao, and Devil Driver. Trivium is really the only band i like out of those other bands. but it should be a great show. I think Trivium kicks ***. :)

Have fun at the show dude :) Have they already played in Nashville? I was goin' to try to hook my band and another local band up with a spot on that show if there was a spot open...but meh, oh well.

/new video

Why choose "Dying In Your Arms"? blah...it's such a weak song in my opinion. Good, catchy, but weak.

[Britton]

Im going to see Trivium tonight in Detroit with In Flames, Zao, and Devil Driver. Trivium is really the only band i like out of those other bands. but it should be a great show. I think Trivium kicks ***. :)

So are you gonna post a review?

how were the other bands?

[i am the robots]

Have fun at the show dude :) Have they already played in Nashville? I was goin' to try to hook my band and another local band up with a spot on that show if there was a spot open...but meh, oh well.

/new video

Why choose "Dying In Your Arms"? blah...it's such a weak song in my opinion. Good, catchy, but weak.

It's because they know how to market themselves, the past couple of singles have marketed them out to the trendier/more open minded(both fit) melodic death metal listeners, thrash listeners, and 'metalcore' listeners, now they're reaching to the 'emo' and 'punk' kids.

[playguitar]

I saw Trivium's performance at the download festival on youtube and it was pretty terrible. The singer didn't sing the clean parts and when he did they were a couple octaves down. The musicianship was kind of sloppy too, especially the second solo, it sounded like a mess of noise.

[nowitzki]

The performance was in no way terrible, they were very good. They put on a great show and had amazing stage presence, especially when you consider how young they are. I agree his vocals aren't great, but theres more to putting on a good show than playing your songs note-perfect.
I'm pretty sure most people in attendance would agree, they were impressive.

[RockGuitarist501]

So are you gonna post a review?

how were the other bands?

Concert was kickass! there were 5 bands all together. the first was a 3 piece local band. they were ok, nothing too special. next up was Zao. they were pretty good. very hardcore. then after them was Devil Driver. during the whole setlist, the crowd was pretty much out of control. people were throwing beer everywhere and i got splashed with it multiple times. they put on a very good performance. tons of energy and excitement. next up was Trivium (my favorite band there). they opened with like light to flies then drowned and torn asunder, gunshot, declaration, requiem, domination/walk, pull harder. the pantera covers were pretty cool. matt did alot of harmonic squeels like dimebag did. i thought that was pretty sweet. me and my friend were in the front row and the bassist accually gave me a high five. again, the crowd was wild. everybody pretty much loved them. they put on a great show. they said they're comming back in July and i'm definatly going to go see them again. then In Flames played. they were pretty good but we couldn't stay untill the end. thats about it.

oh! btw, i got to meet trivium and i got all their autographs. :D they're pretty sweet dudes.

[King_Karl]

I think Trivium are pretty cool. I got tickets to see them in march. I think the music is pretty exceptional but sometimes the vocals stary too far on the emo side of things for my liking.

[Trivium]

|I'm listening to Ascendency for the first time in a while right now. It is such a great album. Well all except for Dying In Your Arms. I can't believe thats going to be the next single.
I love the drum beat at about 2 mins 30 in Drowned And Torn Asunder.

the dying in your arms version thats being released as a single has a piano intro. and the screaming before the solo is now nysncish shoulding nonesense.

http://www.trivium-u.com/home.html

its posted right there if you want to listen it.

[mr black]

^ All i can say is.... yuck. I didn't mind the album version because although cliche and cheesy it was incredibly catchy, but that version is just plain ...:smash:

[deathscreamingsheep]

If there was ever an example of dumbing down songs to appeal to a mainstream audience then there it is.

I'm extremely disappointed.

[Shred Danson]

the dying in your arms version thats being released as a single has a piano intro. and the screaming before the solo is now nysncish shoulding nonesense.

http://www.trivium-u.com/home.html

its posted right there if you want to listen it.

Ah, reminiscent of how Killswitch changed the vocals in "The End of Heartache" for the single release. Heh.

[xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx]

i went to ozzfest last year and missed trivium.....:(

anyone know if they'll be there next year?

.....or any other bands that will be there?

[Shred Danson]

i went to ozzfest last year and missed trivium.....:(

anyone know if they'll be there next year?

.....or any other bands that will be there?

Nothing's official yet. I doubt they'll be on Ozzfest this year.

[Britton]

Concert was kickass! there were 5 bands all together. the first was a 3 piece local band. they were ok, nothing too special. next up was Zao. they were pretty good. very hardcore. then after them was Devil Driver. during the whole setlist, the crowd was pretty much out of control. people were throwing beer everywhere and i got splashed with it multiple times. they put on a very good performance. tons of energy and excitement. next up was Trivium (my favorite band there). they opened with like light to flies then drowned and torn asunder, gunshot, declaration, requiem, domination/walk, pull harder. the pantera covers were pretty cool. matt did alot of harmonic squeels like dimebag did. i thought that was pretty sweet. me and my friend were in the front row and the bassist accually gave me a high five. again, the crowd was wild. everybody pretty much loved them. they put on a great show. they said they're comming back in July and i'm definatly going to go see them again. then In Flames played. they were pretty good but we couldn't stay untill the end. thats about it.

oh! btw, i got to meet trivium and i got all their autographs. :D they're pretty sweet dudes.


Yea really cool guys. Did you get any pics with them? when I met them all I had was my camra phone and it's memory was all took up :( The only person I didn't meet was Paulo

[Ibanex0110]

Yea really cool guys. Did you get any pics with them? when I met them all I had was my camra phone and it's memory was all took up :( The only person I didn't meet was Paulo

and you wouldn't delete some random pic for pics with trivium? seems like all of my friends have pictures of the most meaningless things, and they keep them forever. i was rockguitarist's friend that was there. Pretty much everything he said was true, I didn't like Zao that much though, they seemed good but the vocalist ruined it. Devil Driver ruled the crowd with a huge iron fist to say the least. Trivium was pretty much amazing. My neck hurt for like the next 3 days from headbanging and jumping around and stuff. It was pretty sweet when we met them, but it would've been nice if i could've thought of something cool to say besides a generic greeting. oh well, it was still super sweet.

[Britton]

and you wouldn't delete some random pic for pics with trivium? seems like all of my friends have pictures of the most meaningless things, and they keep them forever. i was rockguitarist's friend that was there. Pretty much everything he said was true, I didn't like Zao that much though, they seemed good but the vocalist ruined it. Devil Driver ruled the crowd with a huge iron fist to say the least. Trivium was pretty much amazing. My neck hurt for like the next 3 days from headbanging and jumping around and stuff. It was pretty sweet when we met them, but it would've been nice if i could've thought of something cool to say besides a generic greeting. oh well, it was still super sweet.


You have to USB them to your PC to get them off the phone...it sucked. When I realized I didn't have space I was like "What the?" and Alexi and Janne from COB started laughing

[exup]

I'm really getting into Trivium the last time.. only got the last album but it's pretty good stuff.. maybe a little gay :P

[Hourglass]

I'm really getting into Trivium the last time.. only got the last album but it's pretty good stuff..[FONT="Arial Black" maybe a little gay[/FONT] :P

Get out, you may as well have insulted my family!!

/continues being the ultimate trivium whore

[Britton]

Get out, you may as well have insulted my family!!

/continues being the ultimate trivium whore

LoL


you want a warlock?

[Shred Danson]

Get out, you may as well have insulted my family!!

/continues being the ultimate trivium whore

Man, you are worse than the rest of us :lol:

[Britton]

Man, you are worse than the rest of us :lol:


Dude I'm lovin the avatar

so I'm probably getting my new amp tomarrow! I can't wait to blare some Trivium on it.

I've learned PHOSOYM Some of Rain the ned of everything alot of Ascendancy
some of Gunshot some of Drown and torn...

so it should be a lot of fun.

[Hourglass]

LoL


you want a warlock?

I like the shape low end bc rich aren't the best though

[Britton]

I like the shape low end bc rich aren't the best though


Yea that's what I was thinking

What Trivium song should I learn next?

[^Dream~Theater^]

Yea that's what I was thinking

What Trivium song should I learn next?
Like Light To The Flies:thumb:

[Hourglass]

What Trivium song should I learn next?

If I could collapse the masses.
Great song

[Shred Danson]

Yea that's what I was thinking

What Trivium song should I learn next?

The Decieved, man. Fun song to play. Solos aren't to hard either.

[metalswimmer]

trivium----------------good live--------------ok cd-----------------thats what i think

[exup]

Get out, you may as well have insulted my family!!

/continues being the ultimate trivium whore


well, the "hey, hey, hey" part in a gunshot blabla is pretty poor.
I was like :confused: :amaze: :rolleyes: :smoke:

[jaco jr]

who else agree trivium are a bunch of teabagging turds who wish they were death metal but just arent, who wish they were children of bodom but arent worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as CoB, and who else is going to see them just to kill n00bs?
just me?:confused:

[nowitzki]

Yeah, just you.

[jaco jr]

Yeah, just you.
lame i wish other people were as cool as me

[exup]

children of bodom is so way different.. i think i like Trivium more.
The inearthed stuff is pretty creative, to bad the recordings suck

[Britton]

lame i wish other people were as cool as me

I wish you would be banned for being such a loser.

I think I'll learn like light to flies

[vashts80]

I met Heafy last night in Philly, got him and Corey to sign my Opeth shirt (that I will never wash again), and all four of them signed both of my tickets. Their live show has now turned me into a fan. I used to hate them before.

Heafy sounds like Phil Anselmo. I thought I was listening to Pantera when they played the Domination/Walk medley.

Anybody else go to the Philly show?

[maggot4875]

i think there music and solos are good,but i cant stand the vocals at all.to me its probably the worst metalcore vocals,if they even are metalcore.what genre are they considered as.

[nowitzki]

Metal Archives lists them as Melodic thrash/Metalcore

[jaco jr]

Metal Archives lists them as Melodic thrash/Metalcore
what? they let trivium onto metal archives? after they stopped slipknot, thats a shame, i used to think it a 'tr00' metal website:angry:

[nowitzki]

I don't see how anyone can say Trivium aren't metal. I also disagree with some of the bands that they don't let on there, when there are bands like Rainbow and Black Sabbath on the site, who are really just hard rock.

[Bub]

Trvium are real fun to drum to. If you wanna have a laugh, stick Decleration on, and you know during the bridge where the drum fill (crash chokes and double bassing) cuts out and you get that killer riff carrying on? Yeah. Follow that on double bass. WELL FUN.

Sounds better without it but its fun! Just don't do it live.

[nowitzki]

Decleration?

[jaco jr]

I don't see how anyone can say Trivium aren't metal. I also disagree with some of the bands that they don't let on there, when there are bands like Rainbow and Black Sabbath on the site, who are really just hard rock.
sabbath are the original heavy metal, dont dis:angry:

[vashts80]

I don't see how anyone can say Trivium aren't metal. I also disagree with some of the bands that they don't let on there, when there are bands like Rainbow and Black Sabbath on the site, who are really just hard rock.

Sabbath could probably be called doom metal, and nobody would disagree.

Trivium are definitely metal. Whether they're metalcore or post-thrash or speed or whatever the hell, they are definitely some kind of metal.

[nowitzki]

I agree there is some metal in Sabbath's sound, but I would mainly classify them as hard rock. Just as there is metal in the music of bands like Slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold, yet these bands are not included on the site.

[Moses]

I agree there is some metal in Sabbath's sound, but I would mainly classify them as hard rock. Just as there is metal in the music of bands like Slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold, yet these bands are not included on the site.
Metal Archives is wrong on alot of stuff so I don't generally go by what they say.

Avenged Sevenfold is metal and so is Slipknot and Sabbath. Trivium is not metalcore, just metal or if you want to argue it, melodic thrash.

[vashts80]

Last night in Philly, Matt said they were taping. Do they tape every show (like Maiden does), or are they taping that one specifically for a DVD?

Edit: Nevermind, I got the answer on the Trivium boards..they tape every show in case they want to make a DVD

[Bub]

Decleration?

Declaration then, the song? On Ascendancy...the bit i meant comes on at about 4:20

[nowitzki]

For some reason I don't have that song on my computer, thats why I got confused.

[The_Ownage]

Wow, there's a thread for a lot of good bands on this board. Cool.

I love Trivium. I listened to Ascendancy just this morning, and I can't wait for their new album. They had a pretty good section on them in the newest Guitar World, too. Awesome.

[Itwasthatwas]

who else agree trivium are a bunch of teabagging turds who wish they were death metal but just arent, who wish they were children of bodom but arent worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as CoB, and who else is going to see them just to kill n00bs?
just me?:confused:

lame i wish other people were as cool as me

Wow, even as I marvel at your stupidity, I must admit you made me laugh.

[Bub]

^ :lol:
Great!

[mr black]

Watching corey solo on the roadrunner united allstar sessions dvd is awsome. His fingers move so fast on the fret board the camera can barely keep up and it at times looks cartoonish :chug:

[Turkish]

who else agree trivium are a bunch of teabagging turds who wish they were death metal but just arent, who wish they were children of bodom but arent worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as CoB, and who else is going to see them just to kill n00bs?
just me?:confused:


Funny, because you mention Trivium and CoB in the same sentence....twice.

[Britton]

Watching corey solo on the roadrunner united allstar sessions dvd is awsome. His fingers move so fast on the fret board the camera can barely keep up and it at times looks cartoonish :chug:


Corey is sick!


that shred like us video is insane

[Saberpunk]

W00T Goin to see Trivium and In Flames Tomorrow night!!!! \m/ \m/

[Moses]

who else agree trivium are a bunch of teabagging turds who wish they were death metal but just arent, who wish they were children of bodom but arent worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as CoB, and who else is going to see them just to kill n00bs?
just me?:confused:
lolz @ CoB

[Britton]

I wonder why most COB and Trivium fans can't get along....

Saberpuck: How did the show go?

[i am the robots]

I wonder why most COB and Trivium fans can't get along....

Saberpuck: How did the show go?

Because a lot of the newer CoB fans try too hard to be cool and think being narrowminded retards makes them cool. Trust me, there are a lot of them in my school, I make fun of them horribly.

[Britton]

Because a lot of the newer CoB fans try too hard to be cool and think being narrowminded retards makes them cool. Trust me, there are a lot of them in my school, I make fun of them horribly.


Yea there are tons of them. When I saw COB with Trivium the COB fans were annoying all the way up until COB played.

I can't understand it

[i am the robots]

Yea there are tons of them. When I saw COB with Trivium the COB fans were annoying all the way up until COB played.

I can't understand it

What's so hard to understand? They like the new CoB, and that's total rubbish, therefore they're retarded.

[Britton]

What's so hard to understand? They like the new CoB, and that's total rubbish, therefore they're retarded.

Do you like COB?

[i am the robots]

Do you like COB?

I like everything up until Hatecrew Deathroll (which was only half-decent).

Something Wild and Hatebreeder... now those are solid albums.

[nowitzki]

I'm a huge CoB fan (although I thought AYDY? was very poor), and love Trivium as well. Trivium are a band that a lot of people will hate, due to all the success they have had, so its not surprising that a lot of CoB fans will dislike them.

[i am the robots]

Yeah, Trivium deserves the success, even though Heafy is a horrible vocalist (screaming, and he's half-decent at singing), but he can growl pretty ****ing well, as he proved in his work with Carpharnaum.

[nowitzki]

Yeah, although his singing live is much worse than in the studio. Apparently on the new album he'll be using a different vocal style.

[BLS_Infernus]

Yeah, although his singing live is much worse than in the studio. Apparently on the new album he'll be using a different vocal style.

That happens with every singer.

[nowitzki]

Heafy really seems to struggle with his clean singing live though, which is why he gets the crowd to sing those parts so often.

[BLS_Infernus]

I can see why with the way he "sings" the other parts. He is pretty much killing his voice by doing that.

[mr black]

^ why did you put brackets around sings :confused:

[BLS_Infernus]

Because that screaming/growl stuff isn't singing

[mr black]

...Haha, your a very uneducated individual.

[BLS_Infernus]

...Haha, your a very uneducated individual.

No it's just that you are pretty retarded for thinking that screaming/growling is the act of producing musical sounds with the voice, often constrasted with speech. Air is expelled with the diaphragm as with ordinary breathing, and the pitch is altered with the vocal cords.

[Cougar]

...Haha, your a very uneducated individual.

Ah, irony. I think you mean "you're", not "your". Pretty much defeats the whole point behind your insult, huh? Basic English FTW.

And for the record, those are quotation marks, not brackets.

Oh, and Trivium owns. Can't wait to hear their new album.

[Saberpunk]

I wonder why most COB and Trivium fans can't get along....

Saberpuck: How did the show go?


The show was ****in incredible, Devildriver were intense as hell, Trivium blew everyone away, and In Flames were...well, In Flames no other words needed. I was mostly impressed by Matt's vocals. Impressed in that they were spot on. He actually sang every song all the way through and sang them extremly well. Paulo and Corey were in good form too. And the covers of Dominate and Walk were ****in intense.

[mr black]

No it's just that you are pretty retarded for thinking that screaming/growling is the act of producing musical sounds with the voice, often constrasted with speech. Air is expelled with the diaphragm as with ordinary breathing, and the pitch is altered with the vocal cords.


Screaming is best summed up as singing with distortion, same effect as guitar distortion... different instrument. It still maintains pitch, timing, sustain, tone, and control. To scream a pitch you first have to be able to sing that pitch, henceforth it is singing. Is it not a guitar tone if it's distorted ?

Screams and growls are legitimate styles of singing to convey an emotion that could not be expressed with any other form of delivery, either way your putting fourth a story using articulated speech, it's mood all comes down to the delivery...

***To the gimp correcting my grammer: I know your sort, you feel better about yourself by sitting at your computer and correcting people on the internet or off the internet, to convince yourself that your superior. My grammer is in no way perfect i can admit it, but please grow up and don't flame me because of a point of view that myself and many other members on this forum believe.

[BLS_Infernus]

Looks like you are doing what you are doing is what you said I was doing. And no that's not my type, you know nothing about me. Don't cry on me pal.

IMHO screaming/growling isn't singing.

[Cougar]

Screaming is best summed up as singing with distortion, same effect as guitar distortion... different instrument. It still maintains pitch, timing, sustain, tone, and control. To scream a pitch you first have to be able to sing that pitch, henceforth it is singing. Is it not a guitar tone if it's distorted ?

Screams and growls are legitimate styles of singing to convey an emotion that could not be expressed with any other form of delivery, either way your putting fourth a story using articulated speech, it's mood all comes down to the delivery...

***To the gimp correcting my grammer: I know your sort, you feel better about yourself by sitting at your computer and correcting people on the internet or off the internet, to convince yourself that your superior. My grammer is in no way perfect i can admit it, but please grow up and don't flame me because of a point of view that myself and many other members on this forum believe.

Nah, I just thought it was funny. You seemed like the sort who randomly insulted people based on the fact that he thought something different than you. Had you posted your reasons like you did in this post, I'd have stayed out of it. But you just went "lol, ur ignorant" basically. I take it back now; at least now you have an actual arguement.

[vashts80]

IMHO screaming/growling isn't singing.

You're right, it's not singing. It's...guess what? Screaming or growling. They both take talent to do, just as much talent (if not more) than singing, at least in metal. Whether your opinion is different or not, they are both legimiate styles of vocalization. I'd like you to tell Mikael Akerfeldt or Karl Sanders that they aren't legimitate styles of vocalization, and I'd like to see what they say. Because they'd prove you wrong, but obviously knowledge (them) < ignorance (you).

To scream or growl properly is a hard feat, and it's often recommended to people who scream or growl to take vocal training (aka singing lessons), because they use the same techniques. You sing with your diaphragm. You growl/scream with your diaphragm (at least if you're doing it right.)

Thanks, have a nice day.

[BLS_Infernus]

It's an opinion genius. Opinions aren't facts. Ignorance (you) < Knowledge (me)

[vashts80]

I never said opinions werefacts, it's just that your opinion is highly off base and as such, should be disregarded. It's like saying that freedom of speech isn't a valid constitutional amendment because everybody takes advantage of it. It doesn't make the 1st amendment any less of an amendment when compared to the 18th.

Honestly, post on the Nile forums, or the Opeth forums, or some other "zomgz growling/screaming aren't vocal techniques" forum, and I'd love to see what they say.

Your opinion is wrong, and your ignorance is glaring.

[Corkofski]

ok, heres the test.

go and sing along to a song by the chilis or summat

then go choose a heavier song, lets say anything by cannibal corpse since it meets our needs.

which was easier?

point made

[^Dream~Theater^]

ok, heres the test.

go and sing along to a song by the chilis or summat

then go choose a heavier song, lets say anything by cannibal corpse since it meets our needs.

which was easier?

point made
I Agree:thumb:

[nowitzki]

Come on, lets face it screaming/growling isn't as difficult as being a good singer. I see loads of local metal bands, and theres countless people who can scream/growl very well, but a good singer is a lot harder to come by, especially who is capable of singing metal.

I know a few people, (including my brother) who find it easy to do a Chris Barnes low pitched growl, that sounds really brutal. And even if you can't, most screaming/growling styles will still sound good.
Whereas with singing, you actually have to sing the song accurately for it to sound good.

[BLS_Infernus]

Come on, lets face it screaming/growling isn't as difficult as being a good singer. I see loads of local metal bands, and theres countless people who can scream/growl very well, but a good singer is a lot harder to come by, especially who is capable of singing metal.

I know a few people, (including my brother) who find it easy to do a Chris Barnes low pitched growl, that sounds really brutal. And even if you can't, most screaming/growling styles will still sound good.
Whereas with singing, you actually have to sing the song accurately for it to sound good.

It's even harder to find a person who can do both very well. Trivium happens to be one of those bands that have lucked out. And on top of that he's a decent guitarist.

[vashts80]

Come on, lets face it screaming/growling isn't as difficult as being a good singer. I see loads of local metal bands, and theres countless people who can scream/growl very well, but a good singer is a lot harder to come by, especially who is capable of singing metal.

I know a few people, (including my brother) who find it easy to do a Chris Barnes low pitched growl, that sounds really brutal. And even if you can't, most screaming/growling styles will still sound good.
Whereas with singing, you actually have to sing the song accurately for it to sound good.

And? I see what you're saying, and I definitely agree, however writing off screaming/growling as not being a "proper" vocal technique is absolutely ludacris. It's taken me months to be able to growl halfway decently doing it the proper way.

And to be honest, Heafy's clean singing doesn't have much to be desired for. IMO his clean singing is pretty sub-par.

[nowitzki]

Yeah, I agree with that, I was just saying it with regards to people suggesting singing is easier.

[mr black]

I dunno... i still see it as singing because your presenting articulated language over music using vocalised tone, timing and pitch. Still ...each to his own.

Heafy is a fairly average vocalist he can only scream one pitch basically, and his clean singing is very sub-par.

[Moses]

I know a few people, (including my brother) who find it easy to do a Chris Barnes low pitched growl, that sounds really brutal.
It is really easy, easy as whispering.

[slipknot-rock]

i think heafy is really talented, considering he is only 19. i really think trivium are gonna become really big. as for me im a big fan already. got tickets for an upcoming tour hopefull itll be awesome!:thumb:

[Josh]

i think heafy is really talented, considering he is only 19. i really think trivium are gonna become really big. as for me im a big fan already. got tickets for an upcoming tour hopefull itll be awesome!:thumb:
if they support Maiden through the UK at the end of this year, as well as doing Scandinavia, i'll go see them, but i don't think i'd go see them headline somewhere. i like them, but not really enough to go to a gig just for them.

[i am the robots]

Come on, lets face it screaming/growling isn't as difficult as being a good singer. I see loads of local metal bands, and theres countless people who can scream/growl very well, but a good singer is a lot harder to come by, especially who is capable of singing metal.

I know a few people, (including my brother) who find it easy to do a Chris Barnes low pitched growl, that sounds really brutal. And even if you can't, most screaming/growling styles will still sound good.
Whereas with singing, you actually have to sing the song accurately for it to sound good.

Well #1, screaming and growling take a slightly differed technique
#2, screaming correctly is something hard to figure out
#3, if Chris Barnes is your example of a good growl, no wonder you see it as being so easy
#4, Heafy sucks at screaming, sucks at singing, and is good at growling (but that's only in Capharnaum anyhow)

[Mr. Ron]

Speaking about growling....


I'm unsatisfied with Trivium's vocalist. He's forcing his vocals too much.

[i am the robots]

Speaking about growling....


I'm unsatisfied with Trivium's vocalist. He's forcing his vocals too much.

I agree 100%, he only really goes to his true potential in two songs:

Machines and Icon Of Malice by Capharnaum.

[Mr. Ron]

I just don't understand why they are being regarded as the new "Metallica". They seem mediochre in my opinion.

[nowitzki]

Well #1, screaming and growling take a slightly differed technique
#2, screaming correctly is something hard to figure out
#3, if Chris Barnes is your example of a good growl, no wonder you see it as being so easy
#4, Heafy sucks at screaming, sucks at singing, and is good at growling (but that's only in Capharnaum anyhow)
I was using Chris Barnes as an example because someone was trying to make out Cannibal Corpse songs were difficult to sing.
And I'm just pointing out that its a lot harder to come across a great metal singer than a great growler/screamer, and I notice this especially with local bands.

[SimonCore]

Yeah it's easier to scream properly a cannibal corpse verse, than it is to sing an inflames chorus.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Anyone can scream or growl, yes. However, to be able to perform those kinds of vocals well and on a continuous basis takes more talent than it seems. the combination of emotion and technique it takes to do this without harming your voice is a talent in and of itself. As a vocalist who both sings and growls myself, I can, however, state that heafy is at best, mediocre.

[SimonCore]

Matt Heafy does not scream properly. It's already ruined his voice slightly as he regrets doing the high pitched clean choruses on Asendancy because he can't do them live anymore! God knows how his voice doesn't go hoarse though.
I hope his voice doesn't blow when i see them in a couple of weeks:mad:

[i am the robots]

He's wrecked his voice so bad dude, it's unfortunate, but he was never even that good in the first place. Thats why kiddies need to understand that you can't just go out there and start screaming. Not anybody can scream, it does take skill. True anybody could scream in theory, but there's those who sound like Atilla from Mayhem, and then theres those who sound like Howard from Killswitch Engage.

[SimonCore]

He's wrecked his voice so bad dude, it's unfortunate, but he was never even that good in the first place. Thats why kiddies need to understand that you can't just go out there and start screaming. Not anybody can scream, it does take skill. True anybody could scream in theory, but there's those who sound like Atilla from Mayhem, and then theres those who sound like Howard from Killswitch Engage.

Howard Jones is one of the best metalcore singers around.

[i am the robots]

Not really metalcore anymore.. in his old band... Blood Has Been Shed I think... yes, but KSE isn't metalcore. Jesse Leach is really good too, so is Trevor Phipps, and the dude from All That Remains.

[SimonCore]

Killswitch own.

Anyway back on Trivium! Anyone going to The Crusade tour? I'm going to the Cardiff one. Mendeed are supporting instead of bloodsimple at the first ten dates.

[i am the robots]

When is the Crusade due out?
And I'm probably not gonna go, I'm not a fan of their live show.

[Joe]

Apparently a lot of people aren't fans of their live shows. I've seen videos and they sound really awesome live, but the reason people don't like it apparently is because they want people to get violent or something like that. I was reading the Guitar World recently about them and it's pretty amazing how they started. Matt's only 19 which is pretty incredible considering he joined in around '99

[i am the robots]

Matt's a good musician, don't get me wrong, but he loses his voice when they play live, he is not a good vocalist, he kills it for me.

[nowitzki]

I really enjoy Trivium live, while Heafy's voice isn't great, the performance is usually amazing. I've seen them twice, once in a really small venue that held about 200 people, and at Download festival in front of thousands.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Not really metalcore anymore.. in his old band... Blood Has Been Shed I think... yes, but KSE isn't metalcore. Jesse Leach is really good too, so is Trevor Phipps, and the dude from All That Remains.


ATR- Phil Labonte

Kse is metalcore

Jesse david Leach left KsE partly because he kept blowing out his voice like Heafy keeps doing. He really isn't that good (though I prefer him to Howard)

[SimonCore]

Trivium don't encourage violence at there shows. That's just a rumour. They do however encourage circle pits and mosh pits. I'm hoping for a wall of death when I go see them in two weeks.

I thought the reason people didn't like the live show was because he never ever sings the chorous of pull harder on the strings of your martyr. And he way overuses the crowd singing the clean choruses. That's the only negative thing about it for me.

[Huber]

Not only is it only pits and stuff, but I only heard Matt say he wanted to see more movement like once, and then he said "that's more like it" and that was it. It is definetly rumor, or he has just stopped.

[SimonCore]

I dunno maybe in the very early days of Trivium when they all looked like complete idiots.

[mr black]

Yeah he's shorts, tshirt, shaved head, and chin height guitar were prettyyyy coooool haha...

[Taste_My_Scythe]

You know, I really don't get the hype. I saw them with Bodom and Amon Amarth, and I didn't find them too interesting or stimulating. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
I see them all over the place now...Guitar World, Revolver, Spin, everywhere. I don't get what's so great about them.

Though I do have the lead singer's Maiden shirt. "Run to the Hills". :thumbs: props for that. They were also very energetic live, and that was fun to watch.

[SimonCore]

Yeah they're very energetic live. And they play the solos twice as fast as to on the CD's. They're very talented guitarists.

[DanD]

Yeah they're very energetic live. And they play the solos twice as fast as to on the CD's. They're very talented guitarists.
Playing solos twice as fast isn't always a good thing...

[i am the robots]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6JFJ3r9WnI&search=trivium

That is proof that heafy has ****ed his vocal chords.

[SimonCore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F77LMY4Ufc&search=trivium-rain

This is proof!

[Huber]

Just watched the Dying in Your Arms video. It was the show I saw. It's pretty cool.

[toolfreak]

I love trivium heaps but i must say it did take me a few listens to get my head round the heavy vocals but once u do its great in my humble 15 year old opinion:naughty: nobody flame me ill cry lol

[SimonCore]

Can't wait only two weeks until i see them!

[BlackRoseImmortal915]

Has anyone heard anything about the new Trivium cd yet??

[Trivium]

Has anyone heard anything about the new Trivium cd yet??

I know a **** load about it.

Name: The Crusade
Recording: May 2006, Audio Hammer Studios
Release: September 2006 (estimated)
Label: Roadrunner Records
Producers: Matt Heafy, Jason Suecof

Interesting info:
-A 7 String Guitar will be used for some tracks
-Paul Romano has been booked for all new artwork.
-Triviumworld will be documenting part of the production


Known Tracks (**=confirmed name)

1. Ignition**
2. Detonation**
?. Anthem (We are the fire) - 80s type anthem song**
?. This world can't tear us apart
?. In Sadness We'll See Her**
?. Entrance of the Conflaguration**
?. The Crusade
?. Synthetic
?. Becoming the dragon


Theres an 8 minute instrumental which will be cool.

also matt is going to stop most of the screaming, he's singing a lot more like the heavy vocals from declaration or departure. very ...and justice for all style of heavy singing.

and you guys are right, the screaming has ****ed his vocal chords.

[Hourglass]

You forgot the title lol.
It'll be called the crusade.
And they're going to be doing a few different tunings like standard

[Trivium]

basically after this album, trivium will be the sh!t. and metalcore will be dead forever.

[Nepenthe]

basically after this album, trivium will be the sh!t. and metalcore will be dead forever.

One can only hope.

[SimonCore]

basically after this album, trivium will be the sh!t. and metalcore will be dead forever.

And why do you think that?

[BlackRoseImmortal915]

haha damn dude, thats pretty cool. i cant wait to hear it.

[Trivium]

And why do you think that?

metalcore sucks, and its dying anyways.

and trivium is opening for maiden for a few weeks after the crusade comes out, playing in front of like 35,000 a night.

[Nepenthe]

metalcore sucks, and its dying anyways.

and trivium is opening for maiden for a few weeks after the crusade comes out, playing in front of like 35,000 a night.

The band It Dies Today's name is symoblic of metalcore. The day they released their first cd was the day metalcore died.

[Drunken Viking]

I like Trivium, they are pretty good musicians, but the bass not being very audible just sucks.

I like It Dies Today, they are good metalcore.

[Invicta_Veritas]

There is nothing wrong with true metalcore. But I believe metalcore died the day bands like From Autumn to Ashes started incorperating it into thier punk.

[Drunken Viking]

Most people think metalcore is like Atreyu so they don't give it a chance at all.

/Likes Atreyu.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Most people think metalcore is like Atreyu so they don't give it a chance at all.

/Likes Atreyu.


That's because people confuse metalcore and hardcore all the time. And by hardcore, I mean this American version of hardcore (Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Time In Malta, etc.), rather than true hardcore (The Haunted).

[Po0sH]

I listened to trivium for a week and got bored with them. Their first CD sucks. I'm sorry. It sucks. Their second CD was decent. It had good soloing on it. His vocals are kewl, but then I heard them live, and he can't sing at all. I completely lost all respect for them. If you can't pull it off live, then that is just pathetic.

[jaymz_is_god]

Just back from a Trivium gig in Belfast. It was unbelievable. Again, going back to what was said about Matt's voice. He has ****ed it up quite a bit. He kept apologising for not being able to sing properly, but it didn't sound that bad. Apart from that, amazing show. They played a medley of classic tunes that included 'Symphony of Destruction' and 'Seek and Destroy', which was pretty cool. The support was amazing as well. God Forbid are a great live band.

[toolfreak]

Matt's a good musician, don't get me wrong, but he loses his voice when they play live, he is not a good vocalist, he kills it for me.

I like heard hes getting or has got singing lessons not sure if thats true but that should help shouldnt it? maybe he doesnt warm his voice up properly??:chug:

i jus thought all they do is tour the should take a break and let his voice recover

[SimonCore]

Just back from a Trivium gig in Belfast. It was unbelievable. Again, going back to what was said about Matt's voice. He has ****ed it up quite a bit. He kept apologising for not being able to sing properly, but it didn't sound that bad. Apart from that, amazing show. They played a medley of classic tunes that included 'Symphony of Destruction' and 'Seek and Destroy', which was pretty cool. The support was amazing as well. God Forbid are a great live band.

Do you know there exact set?

[Forlorn Hope]

Do you know there exact set?
When I went they played every song of Ascendency and nothing from From Ember To Infernum. I think they also played a short version of Walk by Pantera.

[Shred Danson]

When I went they played every song of Ascendency and nothing from Ember To Inferno. I think they also played a short version of Walk by Pantera.

Doesn't surprise me. and Fix'd.

[Forlorn Hope]

Doesn't surprise me. and Fix'd.
Yea I wasnt sure if it was Infernum or Inferno. I've seen it both ways, so I guessed.

[semi]

I saw trivium just an hour ago. Heafy said he had a throat infection thing and had just seen a doctor before they played. He still sounded really great i think.
The PA for the vocals crapped out on one side at one point and they just started jamming till it was fixed. I was pretty blown away esp. corey. They tried to kinda battle but heafy just gave in and didn't even try some of the stuff corey was playing. Corey would play a long piece then matt would just give a couple of high bends to kinda say I give up I'm not even trying that.
Then corey improvised a song and heafy watched for a bit then just joined in. the bassist just did his own thing the whole time too and the drummer was no problem. It was just corey's improv then heafy would take a min to get into it with them.
They also played like 10 cover songs. they played MoP and got someone from the crown to go up and sing with them.
They also played domination and walk. and the whole show they played on dean dime's. A razorback and an ML i think but im just guessing.
God Forbid are great too although i didn't know any of the old stuff. One of the guitarist's I really liked (the one that wasn't bald)and I liked the singer and the drummer wasn't bad.

[nowitzki]

Wow that sounds really cool, a unique show to go to. What other covers did they play?

[semi]

It's hard to remember now. I know they played these:
Green Day-when i come around
Blink 182-Dammit
lynyrd skynyrd-sweet home alabama
Pantera-Walk
Pantera-Domination
Metallica-Master of Puppets
Rammstein-Du hast

I didnt get some of them and the rest i don't remember but some were joke ones like those blink and greenday and some were a lot better.I think there may have been iron maiden I dont remember and some other things all the metalheads knew. Someone shouted for them to play raining blood or something and he said to corey but then went na we haven't got it prepared.
It was certainly unique but the bit when the PA broke was just incedible and far better than anything they recorded on the albums. some of it was just wank but some was really great and some almost bluesy with some nice slides. That really surprised me that corey played like that. Some people had their phones out to record it and i doubt it will be repeated but I loved it.
The stage was pretty strange too cos the drummer was away in the back raised up. then there was riased bits in front of him with mics and corey and the bassist went up there then he jumped down of it onto the normal part of the stage next to heafy at one point.
The drummer had an amazing solo though i know nothing about drumming. I noticed he had two bass drums though and he sounded great using both of those real fast.

[Scuba_Steve]

Pantera-Domination



best pantera song ever.

I'd kill to see trivium play that.

[semi]

:)
personally i prefered walk. they didnt play the full songs of course just the start but that was probably to save time cos of the time spent when the pa broke. I've seen a video of them playing them and on that they played quite a lot of domination.

[DLR]

I just saw that gig too

*imaginary fives*

I wasn't blown away tbh. Their overall sound was a little muddier than I expected, Matts voice was crappin out, couldn't hear the guitar solo's very well, etc.
But the set was cool enough, they had all the crowd pleasers off ascendency, although I'm sure they were missing a few, I can't remember names of songs. Good crowd interaction, got us pumped for the big uns, but I kinda felt they ****ed around too much in the encore.

[semi]

Do you remember any of the covers they played?
I like that about the encore the way it seemed like they were just messing around playing songs they know and like to play. like it wasnt all planned and im sure it wasn't although they had prepared some of the songs. It seemed real relaxed and fun. What did you think of the bit when the pa broke? that definately wasnt planned and just all improv.

Where were you standing/ what do you look like I may have seen you. Im quite disctinctive so you would know if you saw me I think.

[DLR]

Do you remember any of the covers they played?
I like that about the encore the way it seemed like they were just messing around playing songs they know and like to play. like it wasnt all planned and im sure it wasn't although they had prepared some of the songs. It seemed real relaxed and fun. What did you think of the bit when the pa broke? that definately wasnt planned and just all improv.

Where were you standing/ what do you look like I may have seen you. Im quite disctinctive so you would know if you saw me I think.
Blink 182 -dammit, lynrd sknrd - sweet home alabama, 'tallica- mop, maiden, slayer, dunno, they mainly just played riffs.

I was up on the balcony, only seats I could get, wouldn't sit there again tho, gigs are much better up front but I had no choice this time. I didn't even notice a difference when the p.a. went! the acoustics are weird up there, everything sounds "central".
You know what though, I thought it was quite endearing that they couldn't play one cover song all the way through, reminds me of my own band, we just learn riffs, never whole songs, too busy trying to write our own stuff.

[semi]

Ah they were selling tickets then after they sold out they changed the venue to the carling and were selling new tickets but only upstairs since the people with tickets for the old vanue got first choice of tickets in carling. I bought them after the venue change anyway. I thought it was strange when they told me there was only upstairs left even though I was preordering them. I preodered cos they hadnt printed new ones yet. Anyway when i went to collect them due to some accident with printing or the filing or something I got downstairs. :)
Upstairs would have been better than nothing though and the carling sold out too so they should have chosen an even bigger venue. The queue was insane.
Im sure they could learn those whole songs if they felt like it and probably played some of those when they first started playing cos they arent that old. Time wouldnt allow it mostly I think. and they werent meant to be proper covers just fun messing around and guess the riff type thing. notice matt actually messed up blink-dammit...
The sound is always pretty bad there and I have come to expect it from gigs pretty much anywhere in glasgow. I have to go to the carling again tomorrow and after Trivium its going to seem terrible. I kinda wish i didnt have to go and i dont like the band but im going with a friend who wants to go.

[DLR]

Ah they were selling tickets then after they sold out they changed the venue to the carling and were selling new tickets but only upstairs since the people with tickets for the old vanue got first choice of tickets in carling. I bought them after the venue change anyway. I thought it was strange when they told me there was only upstairs left even though I was preordering them. I preodered cos they hadnt printed new ones yet. Anyway when i went to collect them due to some accident with printing or the filing or something I got downstairs. :)
Upstairs would have been better than nothing though and the carling sold out too so they should have chosen an even bigger venue. The queue was insane.
Im sure they could learn those whole songs if they felt like it and probably played some of those when they first started playing cos they arent that old. Time wouldnt allow it mostly I think. and they werent meant to be proper covers just fun messing around and guess the riff type thing. notice matt actually messed up blink-dammit...
The sound is always pretty bad there and I have come to expect it from gigs pretty much anywhere in glasgow. I have to go to the carling again tomorrow and after Trivium its going to seem terrible. I kinda wish i didnt have to go and i dont like the band but im going with a friend who wants to go.


dunno man, I saw alterbridge there and their sound was awesome. what band you seeing tomorrow?

[semi]

Yellowcard. :o:upset:

[jaymz_is_god]

Do you know there exact set?

Like Light to Flies
Requiem
Rain
The Decieved
Ember to Inferno
Washing Away Me In The Tides
A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation
Suffocating Sight
Dying In Your Arms

Medley of a lot of different stuff here (mostly just intros or main riffs):
Du Hast - Rammstein
Symphony of Destruction - Megadeth
Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Dammit - Blink 182
Jailbreak - Thin Lizzy
Seek and Destroy - Metallica
Domination - Pantera

Walk - Pantera
Master of Puppets - Metallica (with a random guy from the crowd singing on stage)

Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr

Not exact, but that's as much as I can remember.

[Britton]

Dude that sounds crazy! I can't beleive they did a show like that.

/go's searching online

[semi]

I remember now they also played the start to an eminem song. Then everyone chanted rain of blood and matt said to corey who wasnt looking, "they're asking for rain of blood corey". then he went "na we dont have it prepared. yeah I know what your thinking they have eminem prepared but not slayer?"

[Britton]

I remember now they also played the start to an eminem song. Then everyone chanted rain of blood and matt said to corey who wasnt looking, "they're asking for rain of blood corey". then he went "na we dont have it prepared. yeah I know what your thinking they have eminem prepared but not slayer?"


Dude I wish I could have seen that.