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Cousin_Ed
08-25-2005, 04:44 PM
yeah there been alot of talk that there the next metallica

I dont really think they sound anything like metallica, and meaning the next metal band to break through the mainstream barrier, that wont happen either, mainstream listeners won't like the vocals for one. The ryhtym guitars is more amon amarth, listen to ancient sign of a storm coming and you will see its very simular, definatly not the tone but rythym is very simular. I also find there lead breakoffs to be simular to inflames if anything. and the vocals are screamo-emo if anything >_< but ive never really listened to metal for the vocals, there are exceptions like bruce in my avatar however >_>.
/end opinion

Sorry if this goes against what anyone says.

I got there album expecting something metallica-esque aswell, not finding that in my opinion, which ive just pointed out, but however do enjoy acendency immensly. I dont think a new metallica will ever arise, because it is not the 1980s :naughty: However they are very awesome band. :thumb:

FlyingPaul_83
08-25-2005, 05:19 PM
http://www.trivium.org/images/media/photos//IMG_2748.JPG

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 01:04 AM
Gunshot video is here!!

yay

http://www.trivium.org/media.php?s=3&page=1

Huber
09-04-2005, 01:06 AM
Oh shi

Sorry I didn't notice this thread existed, I wouldn't have bumped the other one.

I'm going to try and get my tickets to see them when they come back to the US with there European homies.

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 01:08 AM
with bodom?

I wish I could see them with Bodom, That would be incredible.....

Huber
09-04-2005, 01:09 AM
Yes, with CoB and Amon Amarth. I can't wait. I hope I can go.

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 01:53 AM
Gunshot video = awesome.

The dueling guitars towards the end is onr of my favorite parts on that whole album, I love it.

loathed
09-04-2005, 02:33 AM
youre right gunshot vid is awesome. :thumb:

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 12:15 PM
It's also kinda weird, cause like the people come out of nowhere and start chanting :lol:

so cheesy IMO.

Shadows
09-04-2005, 12:17 PM
I'll be seeing these guys with Amon Amarth and Children of Bodom on November 12th as well. :cool:

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 12:17 PM
Lucky, I wish I could see bodom with these guys......:upset:

Itwasthatwas
09-04-2005, 12:18 PM
Gunshot video = awesome.

The dueling guitars towards the end is onr of my favorite parts on that whole album, I love it.

Pull Harder video was better made and less cheesy IMO.

Endless Obsession
09-04-2005, 12:22 PM
Dont post in this gay thread.

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 02:14 PM
why? this has been the biggest Trivium thread so far.

I wonder If they will do another video.

Itwasthatwas
09-04-2005, 02:16 PM
Dont post in this gay thread.

Why not? Its been going for months.

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 02:36 PM
what do you guys like more?

Matt's Black Les Paul or his Whit Les Paul?

Endless Obsession
09-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Um post in my thread.

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 02:39 PM
Porque?

Endless Obsession
09-04-2005, 02:42 PM
Porque?

Because i spent time making it and I would like you to. Plus ICBdoesnt even come on anymore. Theres no reason not to except to spite me.

FlyingPaul_83
09-04-2005, 02:43 PM
so we just stop posting in this one?

Endless Obsession
09-04-2005, 02:43 PM
Yes.

Itwasthatwas
09-04-2005, 02:43 PM
Because i spent time making it and I would like you to. Plus ICBdoesnt even come on anymore. Theres no reason not to except to spite me.

I do post in your thread too.

Shred Danson
09-15-2005, 08:43 AM
Because i spent time making it and I would like you to. Plus ICBdoesnt even come on anymore. Theres no reason not to except to spite me.

/it was closed

And I guess I'm posting again, at least whenever I could find the time to.

Good write up though, bro :) You kicked my *** :(

So I guess if there is anymore Trivium dicussion, this is the place to go (for now, until someone decides to make me feel all small and such)...

Arucard
09-15-2005, 10:35 AM
The reason why the other thread was closed was because it passed the 100 idiotic arguments limit of mx.

KittensInMicrowaves
09-15-2005, 10:42 AM
I think they got off the topic of Trivium in the other thread... but sometimes the mods get too strict on here IMO.

All the rules and strictness go against the very nature of metal IMO

Arucard
09-15-2005, 10:48 AM
So rule 1 of the metal handbook : idiocy must run rife amongst metal fans?

Josh
09-15-2005, 03:07 PM
obviously. i bought Ascendancy about a month ago, what an amazing album, should i get their first album as well?

Yppolitia
09-15-2005, 03:18 PM
obviously. i bought Ascendancy about a month ago, what an amazing album, should i get their first album as well?
Maybe try downloading some of there songs from it if you have Limewire or similar. I have heard a few songs and the singing is alot weaker but the guitar is still cool, not as good as Ascendancy but nothing poor, its worth buying. Have a look at the review of it on Sputnik.

SomeGuySomewhere
09-15-2005, 04:16 PM
The new Gunshot single, the riff under the Cory's solo is a Blackwater Park riff, along with that RTL rip. It's too similiar to not be called rip offs.

Mr. Ron
09-15-2005, 04:21 PM
Capharnaum >
They are pretty good.

Trivium
09-15-2005, 05:20 PM
The reason why the other thread was closed was because it passed the 100 idiotic arguments limit of mx.

more than that

36Dritzlfists
09-15-2005, 05:39 PM
obviously. i bought Ascendancy about a month ago, what an amazing album, should i get their first album as well?

I prefer listening to Ember to Inferno over Ascendancy. There is something about Ascendancy that rubs me the wrong way.

Trivium
09-15-2005, 06:45 PM
I prefer listening to Ember to Inferno over Ascendancy. There is something about Ascendancy that rubs me the wrong way.

I like both for their own reasons, though I definately prefer ascendancy.

musicanity
09-15-2005, 10:27 PM
The intro song and "Rain", the first two songs off Ascendency are great. I love the intro to pull harder on the strings of your matryr. Other songs need a little improvement. good band though.

KittensInMicrowaves
09-15-2005, 10:43 PM
So rule 1 of the metal handbook : idiocy must run rife amongst metal fans?

You've been to metal concerts dude, wake up, metal isn't about being organized and trying to turn discussion into a debate... the bands themselves would tell you that

Huber
09-16-2005, 12:21 AM
You've been to metal concerts dude, wake up, metal isn't about being organized and trying to turn discussion into a debate... the bands themselves would tell you that

Just because were in a metal community doesn't mean we act like airheads. That's ridiculous.

KittensInMicrowaves
09-16-2005, 10:24 AM
Just because were in a metal community doesn't mean we act like airheads. That's ridiculous.

How you pulled 'airheads' out of that comment is beyond me

Joe
09-16-2005, 04:32 PM
So, courtesy of Wish, I've become a huge trivium fan. Ascendency is a great album. I have a n00bish question, how many guitarists do they have? I have a feeling it's too but they have an Iron Maiden sort of guitar solo sectioning for guitarists and I just had a feeling their might be three.

NP: A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation

SomeGuySomewhere
09-16-2005, 04:40 PM
The new Gunshot single, the riff under the Cory's solo is a Blackwater Park riff, along with that RTL rip. It's too similiar to not be called rip offs.

So no one notices those obvious rip offs?

FlyingPaul_83
09-16-2005, 06:56 PM
So, courtesy of Wish, I've become a huge trivium fan. Ascendency is a great album. I have a n00bish question, how many guitarists do they have? I have a feeling it's too but they have an Iron Maiden sort of guitar solo sectioning for guitarists and I just had a feeling their might be three.

NP: A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation


they have 2 guitarists. I never thought of you as a fan of harsh vocals.

Mr. Ron
09-16-2005, 07:03 PM
So no one notices those obvious rip offs?
Anyone who rips off a Opeth riff deserves to be shot.

KittensInMicrowaves
09-16-2005, 07:19 PM
So no one notices those obvious rip offs?

Their music sounds nothing like Opeth, to say they are an obvious rip off is just false. It is possible they wrote a riff that sounds similar not realizing Opeth had this riff, none of the band members strike me as Opeth listeners

Trivium
09-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Their music sounds nothing like Opeth, to say they are an obvious rip off is just false. It is possible they wrote a riff that sounds similar not realizing Opeth had this riff, none of the band members strike me as Opeth listeners

they definately arnt, at all

they listen to 80's metal, not opeth

FlyingPaul_83
09-16-2005, 09:34 PM
Matt Heafy

Personal details:
Instrument: Lead, Rhythm Guitars; Vocals
Birthday: January 26, 1986
Birthplace: Iwakuni, Japan
Hometown: Orlando, Florida

Equipment list:
Gibson Les Paul Custom
Marshall JCM2000 DSL Heads
Marshall JCM900BV Cabs
Boss NS-2 Noise Gate
Maxon OD Pedal
Korg Tuners
Digitech FX

Favorite bands (all time):
Metallica, Pantera, Megadeth, In Flames, Rammstein, Iron Maiden

Currently listening to:
The Misfits, Necrophagist, Danzig, Decapitated, Martyr, Black Label Society, Oomph!, Manson, Tool, Deftones, Nine Inch Nails, Dream Theater, Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Still Remains, The Agony Scene, 3 Inches Of Blood

Corey

Personal details:
Instrument: Guitar
Birthday: 11/22/83
Birthplace: Brunswick,ME
Hometown: Dover-Foxcroft, ME

Equipment list:
Jackson KV2
Jackson SLSMG soloist
Marshall JCM2000 DSL Heads
Marshall JCM900BV Cabs
Boss ns-s Noise Gate
Ibanez Tube Screamer

Favorite bands (all time):
Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Testament, Pantera, Death, Dokken, Motley Crue, Danzig, Machine Head, Dio, Children of Bodom, Wasp, Iced Earth, Yngwie Malmsteen, Jason Becker, Michael Angelo Batio


Paolo


Personal details:
Instrument: Bass, Back Up Vocals
Birthday: 09/14/85
Birthplace: Miami, Florida
Hometown: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

Equipment list:
Custom B.C. Rich Mockingbird (Neck-Thru, Dimarzio Pickups)
Washburn XB 500
Ampeg SVT-3 Pro head
Ampeg Classic 8x10 Cab
Shure Beta 58 Mic

Favorite bands (all time):
Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Pantera, Sepultura, Killswitch Engage, Death

Currently listening to:
Machine Head, Lamb of God, Atreyu, and Shadows Fall

Travis

Personal details:
Instrument: Drums
Birthday: April 29, 1982
Birthplace: Bainbridge, Gorgia
Hometown: Orlando, Florida

Equipment list:
Tama Rockstar 7 piece
Sabian cymbals
Remo drum heads
Gibraltar Racks
Tama hardware
Ahead gloves
Zildjian sticks

All time favorite bands:
Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera, Killswitch Engage, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden

Current favorite bands:
Testament, Long Beach Dub All Stars, Audio Slave, Snoop dogg


nope doesn't look like they listen to opeth.

Trivium
09-16-2005, 09:37 PM
amazing copy and paste skills you have there

and of course they dont. Im not going to insult opeth ad ive never really heard them

FlyingPaul_83
09-16-2005, 09:42 PM
yeah Im good :p

I've never heard opeth either, so I wouldn't know if its a ripoff or not.

mr black
09-17-2005, 01:23 AM
In terms of rip-off's, i think Trivium are really good for the time they've had. Although i havn't noticed these "riff rip-off's" some of their vocal melody's sound very similar to other songs even though i can't put my finger on them like the verse vocal lines in 'departure' and 'dying in your arms'.

SomeGuySomewhere
09-17-2005, 09:00 AM
Their music sounds nothing like Opeth, to say they are an obvious rip off is just false. It is possible they wrote a riff that sounds similar not realizing Opeth had this riff, none of the band members strike me as Opeth listeners

I said riff not the music. Listen to the song Blackwater Park by Opeth, the riff after the acoustic section. Compare the two riffs, you will see what I mean. Funny how no one seems to try to refute my accusation of the RTL part either.

Joe
09-17-2005, 06:32 PM
they have 2 guitarists. I never thought of you as a fan of harsh vocals.

Well I'm not, but I'm getting used to it. They're very good

filter
09-17-2005, 11:08 PM
Hey I just downloaded bolth of their albums and hey hey I swear ive heard at least 5 albums that sound exactly the same as this sh1tty generic Metalcore band! The vocals are terrilble the screams and clean ones alike.They sound so fckin weak! The bass is inaudible but if you could hear it im sure it would be ****ty. The guitar riffs are weak as fcuk and have no emotion behind them. Matts solos are sh1tty they are the standard Metalcore solos mixed with some poorly played Thrash type solos. The only high point of the albums was Coreys solos he would be better off in a band that wasn't sh1tty. The drumming wasnt anything to get wet about either.

Trivium
09-18-2005, 12:14 AM
Hey I just downloaded bolth of their albums and hey hey I swear ive heard at least 5 albums that sound exactly the same as this sh1tty generic Metalcore band! The vocals are terrilble the screams and clean ones alike.They sound so fckin weak! The bass is inaudible but if you could hear it im sure it would be ****ty. The guitar riffs are weak as fcuk and have no emotion behind them. Matts solos are sh1tty they are the standard Metalcore solos mixed with some poorly played Thrash type solos. The only high point of the albums was Coreys solos he would be better off in a band that wasn't sh1tty. The drumming wasnt anything to get wet about either.

go away

Huber
09-18-2005, 12:38 AM
I second the "go away" statement, except add "stop breathing and jump in a river" at the end.

FlyingPaul_83
09-18-2005, 12:48 AM
yeh.


I like the little soft interlude songs on ETI. pretty cool.

The end of everything is awesome aswell.

DaveTheAmazing
09-20-2005, 03:53 PM
Hello Trivium fans. My name is Dave and I like Trivium because i was watching the TV channel Scuzz and then they came on and i was like OMG it was the lolzords and I liked them lots so I'm gunna download a few songs and would to enquire as to which ones are best.

Josh
09-20-2005, 03:58 PM
Hello Trivium fans. My name is Dave and I like Trivium because i was watching the TV channel Scuzz and then they came on and i was like OMG it was the lolzords and I liked them lots so I'm gunna download a few songs and would to enquire as to which ones are best.
from "Ascendancy" i would recommend:
Dying in Your Arms
Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr
Rain
A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation
Like Light to the Flies

DaveTheAmazing
09-20-2005, 03:59 PM
I listened to fugue and it was a good one

Wish
09-20-2005, 04:00 PM
Hello Trivium fans. My name is Dave and I like Trivium because i was watching the TV channel Scuzz and then they came on and i was like OMG it was the lolzords and I liked them lots so I'm gunna download a few songs and would to enquire as to which ones are best.
From Ember To Inferno I suggest:


Pillars Of Serpents
If I Could Collapse The Masses
To Burn The Eye
Falling To Grey
When All Light Dies

TheGlassPrison
09-20-2005, 04:26 PM
From Ember To Inferno I suggest:


Pillars Of Serpents
If I Could Collapse The Masses
To Burn The Eye
Falling To Grey
When All Light Dies

fugue is my favorite song off that album

GenuineImitation
09-20-2005, 04:32 PM
From Ember To Inferno I suggest:


Pillars Of Serpents
If I Could Collapse The Masses
To Burn The Eye
Falling To Grey
When All Light Dies

My Hatred is pretty good as well.

KittensInMicrowaves
09-20-2005, 04:38 PM
I love how that moron up there uses the phrase standard metalcore solos... traditional metalcore does not have guitar soloing at all.

OMGGGGG Trivium is da crappiest metalcorez bannd hot topic hot topic hot topic.... crappy metalcore scremaZzzz omg omg lololoz

:rolleyes:

SomeGuySomewhere
09-20-2005, 05:08 PM
I love how that moron up there uses the phrase standard metalcore solos... traditional metalcore does not have guitar soloing at all.

OMGGGGG Trivium is da crappiest metalcorez bannd hot topic hot topic hot topic.... crappy metalcore scremaZzzz omg omg lololoz

:rolleyes:

The worst metalcore band goes to As I lay Dying, the ****tiest riffage I've heard from a "talented" band. I only give their drummer some credit, but he over thinks his drumming way to much for it to flow with the music.

Westicle
09-21-2005, 08:06 AM
The thing is, is that most Metalcore does sound different. Just like whatever you listen to you can actually tell the difference between each band...metalcore listeners can tell the difference between those bands. So shutup with the metal-core bashing stuff because honestly ide like to see you play anything by Trivium, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Into The Moat, Norma Jean, or The Chariot. Its all complicated...and surely your not good enough at anything.

Shred Danson
09-21-2005, 08:14 AM
I wouldn't call Dillenger metalcore, buddy.

i am the robots
09-21-2005, 08:16 AM
The thing is, is that most Metalcore does sound different. Just like whatever you listen to you can actually tell the difference between each band...metalcore listeners can tell the difference between those bands. So shutup with the metal-core bashing stuff because honestly ide like to see you play anything by Trivium, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Into The Moat, Norma Jean, or The Chariot. Its all complicated...and surely your not good enough at anything.

Guess what. None of those bands are Metalcore. Trivium = Post Hardcore Metal, Dillinger Escape Plan = Math Metal, The Number 12 Looks Like You = grind, Norma Jean = Post Hardcore Metal, and The Chariot = Post Hardcore Metal, so stop trying to be knowlageable about subjects you don't even know.

Shred Danson
09-21-2005, 08:19 AM
He's just picking out all the "new bands" and calling them "metalcore" since that's the popular genre these days :rolleyes: . He's probably only heard "Miss Machine" by DEP :lol: lolerzletzthrowrox@him

i am the robots
09-21-2005, 08:22 AM
Yeah, next thing you know Sevendust is Metalcore... [has heard kids referring to them as such :angry:]. But yes, he's been spiggerbwned mah damey.

Shred Danson
09-21-2005, 08:23 AM
Yeah, next thing you know Sevendust is Metalcore... [has heard kids referring to them as such :angry:]. But yes, he's been spiggerbwned mah damey.

Dude, you said spigger! We haven't said that in like a bajillion years!

LOLZ KORNZ NU CD IS METALCORE BECUZ ITZ NUUUUU!

mr black
09-21-2005, 09:27 AM
Why the hell is everyone in here talking like a knob... "lolzorz" and what not. Whats the point of this thread anyway, its a complete flame fest. They're a good band by todays standards and much more talented than anyone here bagging them which is why their making money for their stuff and your not. Get over it... :chug:

Shred Danson
09-21-2005, 10:02 AM
Why the hell is everyone in here talking like a knob... "lolzorz" and what not. Whats the point of this thread anyway, its a complete flame fest. They're a good band by todays standards and much more talented than anyone here bagging them which is why their making money for their stuff and your not. Get over it... :chug:

OK, dude,

1). We're talking like "knobs" because we're being sarcastic right now. I don't really type like that.

2). The whole thread isn't a flame fest, there have been a hell of a lot of pro-Trivium posts in here as well. The point of this thread is to have Trivium discussion. I'd rather not have blatant flaming here, but some people are idiots.

3). Nobody's bitching about them making way more many than anybody else, if somebody hates a band, that shouldn't (and most likely isn't) the reason. You get over it. And they're a fairly new band, dude, even to the mainstream, so I doubt they're making a lot of cash.

4). You can't prove they are much more talented than anyone in this thread, that's just a terrible thing to say over the internet. I'm sure there's plenty of people here that could shred like madmen.

SomeGuySomewhere
09-21-2005, 04:16 PM
The thing is, is that most Metalcore does sound different. Just like whatever you listen to you can actually tell the difference between each band...metalcore listeners can tell the difference between those bands. So shutup with the metal-core bashing stuff because honestly ide like to see you play anything by Trivium, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Into The Moat, Norma Jean, or The Chariot. Its all complicated...and surely your not good enough at anything.

I play Tech Death. Fair enough?

cheatingdeath
09-22-2005, 04:23 PM
i think dying in your arms is the most amazing song ever the lyrics really mean somthing to me

KittensInMicrowaves
09-22-2005, 08:06 PM
i think dying in your arms is the most amazing song ever the lyrics really mean somthing to me

I guess its a good love song, I prefer their other stuff better tho

mr black
09-22-2005, 10:05 PM
OK, dude,

1). We're talking like "knobs" because we're being sarcastic right now. I don't really type like that.

2). The whole thread isn't a flame fest, there have been a hell of a lot of pro-Trivium posts in here as well. The point of this thread is to have Trivium discussion. I'd rather not have blatant flaming here, but some people are idiots.

3). Nobody's bitching about them making way more many than anybody else, if somebody hates a band, that shouldn't (and most likely isn't) the reason. You get over it. And they're a fairly new band, dude, even to the mainstream, so I doubt they're making a lot of cash.

4). You can't prove they are much more talented than anyone in this thread, that's just a terrible thing to say over the internet. I'm sure there's plenty of people here that could shred like madmen.


Ah well i got pOwnd :thumb:

1omega3
09-23-2005, 07:26 AM
Heading to see Trivium at the Wedgewood Rooms in Portsmouth, by the way the earlier sections of the tour have been shaping up it looks set to be a pretty kick *** gig. I've not managed to get hold of Ember to Inferno yet but Ascendancy really sets a standard for the newer bands that have been appearing in the recent past, with more bands that seem to care whether they actually have some kind of thought put into their music the quality looks set to explode again. Not a moment too soon either.

Westicle
09-23-2005, 07:44 AM
Every single one of those bands considers themselves a part of metalcore. And actually no...I havent just heard Miss Machine, I own their 2 CD's and 1 EP. But anyway. Norma Jean is most defintely metalcore, everything about them is metalcore except for maybe the constant odd timing. Same with the Chariot considering they have the old NJ singer and they sound exactly alike.

KittensInMicrowaves
09-24-2005, 06:20 PM
Every single one of those bands considers themselves a part of metalcore. And actually no...I havent just heard Miss Machine, I own their 2 CD's and 1 EP. But anyway. Norma Jean is most defintely metalcore, everything about them is metalcore except for maybe the constant odd timing. Same with the Chariot considering they have the old NJ singer and they sound exactly alike.

I've never heard Trivium position themselves as a metalcore band, I think Matt would be rather peeved at the suggestion, look at his influences and the bands he likes, Converge are not his heroes

Itwasthatwas
09-24-2005, 06:45 PM
I've never heard Trivium position themselves as a metalcore band, I think Matt would be rather peeved at the suggestion, look at his influences and the bands he likes, Converge are not his heroes

:rolleyes:
You haven't been a fan for very long have you. Or at least not enough of a fan to have found out anything about them pre-Ascendancy era.

Trivium
09-24-2005, 11:24 PM
So I just watched an interview of matt and here's what he said 2 tracks on the next album that he already wrote would be:

1. Motley Crue sounding song (ehh...)
2. 18 minute 4 part instrumental song (**** yeah

KittensInMicrowaves
09-24-2005, 11:26 PM
:rolleyes:
You haven't been a fan for very long have you. Or at least not enough of a fan to have found out anything about them pre-Ascendancy era.

When did Matt say they were metalcore? I've been a fan of the band for a while, the only thing I heard was melodicdeathcore, but I think he said that in jest. Not to mention, on ETI, he lists one of his roles as classical guitar, how many bands who want to be considered metalcore list classical guitar as an instrument?

That deserves a :rolleyes:

Itwasthatwas
09-24-2005, 11:46 PM
When did Matt say they were metalcore? I've been a fan of the band for a while, the only thing I heard was melodicdeathcore, but I think he said that in jest. Not to mention, on ETI, he lists one of his roles as classical guitar, how many bands who want to be considered metalcore list classical guitar as an instrument?

That deserves a :rolleyes:

Tons of bands hail to classical. Take All That Remains for example. On their bio, they essentially said "we are metalcore", and Oli Herbert is a classically trained guitarist, with more classical influence in his songwriting than Trivium could ever hope for. That was a completely ridiculous statement on your part, especially considering the fact that many metalcore bands are classified as such mainly out of their combination of starkly different elements. Like Between the Buried and Me for example.. In fact, even Matt's listing of classical guitar as an instrument on ETI was completely ridiculous, considering that half if not more of the acoustic parts on the album are not performed by him, besides which most of these parts don't even merit the label 'classical'.

On Trivium's site, pre-Ascendancy era, they listed themselves as "melodic death metalcore" on the main page, in the short paragraph attempting to describe a band. For a young band like them, at the time trying to get signed and move into a more professional setting, it was obviously not a jest. Before Roadrunner decided to bring up "the next Metallica" gimmick, Matt always listed metalcore and melodeath influences equally high if not higher than the bands thrash influence. The name Trivium itself is derived from the latin word for "a three way intersection", referring to the blend of Melodic Death, Metalcore, and Thrash. While calling Trivium completely metalcore is just ignorant, metalcore is certainly a very strong element of their sound.

Turkish
09-25-2005, 03:00 PM
I love the band, Pillar of Serpents, Fugue, A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation, Like Light to Flies and Declaration or some of my favorite tracks.

i am the robots
09-25-2005, 03:36 PM
Tons of bands hail to classical. Take All That Remains for example. On their bio, they essentially said "we are metalcore", and Oli Herbert is a classically trained guitarist, with more classical influence in his songwriting than Trivium could ever hope for. That was a completely ridiculous statement on your part, especially considering the fact that many metalcore bands are classified as such mainly out of their combination of starkly different elements. Like Between the Buried and Me for example.. In fact, even Matt's listing of classical guitar as an instrument on ETI was completely ridiculous, considering that half if not more of the acoustic parts on the album are not performed by him, besides which most of these parts don't even merit the label 'classical'.

On Trivium's site, pre-Ascendancy era, they listed themselves as "melodic death metalcore" on the main page, in the short paragraph attempting to describe a band. For a young band like them, at the time trying to get signed and move into a more professional setting, it was obviously not a jest. Before Roadrunner decided to bring up "the next Metallica" gimmick, Matt always listed metalcore and melodeath influences equally high if not higher than the bands thrash influence. The name Trivium itself is derived from the latin word for "a three way intersection", referring to the blend of Melodic Death, Metalcore, and Thrash. While calling Trivium completely metalcore is just ignorant, metalcore is certainly a very strong element of their sound.

Wow, excellent post! I've just recently gotten into the band, and I really agree with what you are saying, except for the fact that I see very little hardcore in their music, still they are a great band.

Manticore Guy
09-25-2005, 03:54 PM
2. 18 minute 4 part instrumental song

Sounds interesting.... I cant wait :cool:

Trivium
09-25-2005, 06:02 PM
Sounds interesting.... I cant wait :cool:

recording starts in January, album out by May... thats the plan

FlyingPaul_83
09-25-2005, 06:39 PM
wow, now I really cant wait.

Trivium
09-26-2005, 10:23 PM
wow, now I really cant wait.

neither can I, its gonna be dope

R0ckTh3Arts
09-27-2005, 10:19 AM
Trivium is awesome! To be perfectly honest I had never heard of them up until about 2 weeks ago. But I checked them out; I was an instant fan.

FlyingPaul_83
09-27-2005, 05:33 PM
neither can I, its gonna be dope


That motley crue song should be interesting, to say the least.

Trivium
09-27-2005, 05:35 PM
That motley crue song should be interesting, to say the least.

they'll pull it off real well I think

FlyingPaul_83
09-27-2005, 05:38 PM
Yeah Most likely.

Ascendancy will keep me satisfied until may.

Trivium
09-27-2005, 05:46 PM
Hey everyone, I call for a title change since this is THE trivium thread

I just dont like "The Trivium thread to end all trivium threads"

becuase there arnt any other trivium threads, though this may not get an ******OFFICAL******** thread thing, I still think its time for a change

anyone else agree or have any ideas?

Panvium
09-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Looking forward to the instrumental

Shred Danson
09-27-2005, 06:17 PM
Sure, let's get the name changed.

I only titled it that way because there were a bunch of lame Trivium threads at the time, and I thought I'd make this one the lamest :lol:

XDivineFireX
09-27-2005, 06:18 PM
Hey everyone, I call for a title change since this is THE trivium thread

I just dont like "The Trivium thread to end all trivium threads"

becuase there arnt any other trivium threads, though this may not get an ******OFFICAL******** thread thing, I still think its time for a change

anyone else agree or have any ideas?

I agree. I also cannot wait to hear the instrumental. "The End of Everything" was a pretty nice start to the album IMO, and I was hoping to here some more of the melodic side of trivium. Dont get me wrong, when I hear trivium I can't help but bang my head. Btw...where did you find that interview Trivium?

Trivium
09-27-2005, 10:20 PM
http://metal.4qradio.com/

they have a crap load of interviews of varios metal bands there

some really good info outta trivium in the 2 interviews they have

Trivium
09-28-2005, 02:07 PM
And yeah, what are some name change suggestions?

XDivineFireX
09-28-2005, 04:28 PM
THE Trivium Thread or Tribute To Trivium Threads or The "Trivium Rocks" Thread or Trivium Tribunal

Huber
09-28-2005, 05:01 PM
Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Thread

Like Posts To The Thread

Scuba_Steve
09-28-2005, 05:07 PM
Thread to the Inferno :thumb:

Trivium
09-28-2005, 05:29 PM
Thread to the Inferno :thumb:

thats the best one so far, but people might not know who's it about

"Trivium to Inferno" might work

1omega3
09-29-2005, 08:47 AM
Just got back from the Ascendancy UK tour, t'was a pretty awesome night all round. I thought that All that Remains and It Dies Today were really good as well, I can't stand it when a great band comes around and brings really crappy support with them. Set list was nicely balanced with a few Ember to Inferno tracks mixed in with the obvious Ascendancy tracks. No Master of Puppets though :(

NEVRMORE2
09-29-2005, 08:52 AM
Just got back from the Ascendancy UK tour, t'was a pretty awesome night all round. I thought that All that Remains and It Dies Today were really good as well, I can't stand it when a great band comes around and brings really crappy support with them. Set list was nicely balanced with a few Ember to Inferno tracks mixed in with the obvious Ascendancy tracks. No Master of Puppets though :(
man that would be sweet to see em cover a metallica song all that remains is one of my fav metalcore bands. i was so suprides to see in his songs (hadent listened too most of there songs) that he does do clean too :amaze: .

1omega3
09-29-2005, 08:54 AM
I think that screaming vocal lines work a LOT better when contrasted with a bit of singing, by the same token it only works like that some of the time. Id be surprised if something like Dark Funeral works that way, they're plenty good enough as they are.

Get Fighted
09-29-2005, 10:17 AM
trivium blows

KittensInMicrowaves
09-29-2005, 10:30 AM
trivium blows

Good post, a lot of thought went into this....

XDivineFireX
09-29-2005, 10:35 AM
trivium blows


thats cool, now leave

Shred Danson
09-29-2005, 01:06 PM
trivium blows


2: blink 182
3: nirvana
4: the sex pistols
5: the foo fighters
6: funeral for a friend
7: papa roach
8: alkaline trio
9: the desecendents
10: nofx

OK, dude, whatever you listen to is fine, I'm not downing your tastes or anything. Just explain to me why you think Trivium blows compared to those ten bands.

Woohoo debate time!

Shred Danson
09-29-2005, 01:08 PM
trivium blows


1: boxcar racer
2: blink 182
3: nirvana
4: the sex pistols
5: the foo fighters
6: funeral for a friend
7: papa roach
8: alkaline trio
9: the desecendents
10: nofx

OK, dude, whatever you listen to is fine, I'm not downing your tastes or anything. Just explain to me why you think Trivium blows compared to those ten bands.

Woohoo debate time!

Get Fighted
09-30-2005, 11:33 AM
OK, dude, whatever you listen to is fine, I'm not downing your tastes or anything. Just explain to me why you think Trivium blows compared to those ten bands.

Woohoo debate time!

it was just a joke because i was bored. i actually like all of ascendency except a gunshot to the head. sorry :thumb:
alrite band

Shred Danson
09-30-2005, 12:49 PM
it was just a joke because i was bored. i actually like all of ascendency except a gunshot to the head. sorry :thumb:
alrite band

Ah, well, no problems there, dude! Cheers!

Sorry, most people don't get humor on the internet ( :upset: ).

Trivium
10-02-2005, 03:27 PM
it was just a joke because i was bored. i actually like all of ascendency except a gunshot to the head. sorry :thumb:
alrite band

I didnt like gunshot till I saw the video, then it grew on me

Hale_of_Gunfire
10-02-2005, 04:01 PM
I think trivium are a cool band to listen to for awile but then they start getting boring, i guess you could say I like them in small doses.

drewhet
10-02-2005, 04:46 PM
they went to the high school that i go to now, and i saw them at battle of the bands when i was still in middle school, its hard to belive they are as big as they are.

Trivium
10-02-2005, 04:52 PM
I think trivium are a cool band to listen to for awile but then they start getting boring, i guess you could say I like them in small doses.

yeah I go through phases with them, I was completely obsessed for like a month when I made this name.

But recently ive been listening to a lot of classic metallica and bodom.

they went to the high school that i go to now, and i saw them at battle of the bands when i was still in middle school, its hard to belive they are as big as they are.

thats mad cool man, do a lot of people talk about them there, like is it a big deal to you guys?

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 04:54 PM
where did you guys see the trivium videos. i have basic cable

drewhet
10-02-2005, 04:57 PM
yeah I go through phases with them, I was completely obsessed for like a month when I made this name.

But recently ive been listening to a lot of classic metallica and bodom.



thats mad cool man, do a lot of people talk about them there, like is it a big deal to you guys?

actually im surprised its not at all a big deal. nobody that i've mentioned it to knows who they are. my school is full of preppy kids who listen to pop gayness.

edit: plus they graduated like 4 years ago

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 04:59 PM
do you know them personaly

drewhet
10-02-2005, 05:02 PM
do you know them personaly

nah, i was in 8th grade in middle school and i think they were seniors when i saw them at battle of the bands, i never met any of them.

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 05:08 PM
this local band radio here in miami supposedly got signed to atlantic but they weren't special at the time. then i saw them at this years battle of the bands at my school and they were more proffesional and played their instruments better.

is that the samw thing wtith trivum (not the atlantic part though)

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 05:11 PM
i used to jam with the singer/guitarist in 8th grade and he picked up some of my technique and got better than me

drewhet
10-02-2005, 05:15 PM
this local band radio here in miami supposedly got signed to atlantic but they weren't special at the time. then i saw them at this years battle of the bands at my school and they were more proffesional and played their instruments better.

is that the samw thing wtith trivum (not the atlantic part though)

i dont think so, i dont think they were signed to anything when they played, but theye were prtty proffesional.

after i saw them, i hadnt heard anything at all about them till about 2 years later, when i started listening to metal, my friend showed me a band, trivium, and i was like "those kids went to our school didnt they?" and hes like yah. and i found out they were signed to a record company with an album out, later to release another

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 05:31 PM
have you gone to a show since

drewhet
10-02-2005, 05:40 PM
have you gone to a show since

no, but they are coming to tampa soon with COB, if i feel like driving that far i guess ill go see them.

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 05:45 PM
you're in orlando right? cause thats where trivium started

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 05:48 PM
if you are then do you ever go to george's music

drewhet
10-02-2005, 05:49 PM
yes, more specifically altamonte springs florida, 15 min north of orlando, lake brantley high school

never heard of george's music

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 05:51 PM
never mind, what instrument do you play

drewhet
10-02-2005, 05:52 PM
i just started playing guitar in july

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 06:02 PM
know any trivium songs

drewhet
10-02-2005, 06:06 PM
nah, their not my favorite band i listen to mostly death metal

FreddieVanHalen
10-02-2005, 06:09 PM
i just went from classic rock to metal and trivium blew me away. but i still listen to zeppelin

Trivium
10-04-2005, 02:20 PM
i just went from classic rock to metal and trivium blew me away. but i still listen to zeppelin

thats a big switch

I did classic rock>metallica for 5 years>Trivium

metallica got old, and listening to band heavily influenced by them was really cool

Scuba_Steve
10-04-2005, 04:14 PM
I ordered Ember to the Inferno from interpunk two thursdays ago, and it's still not here....


Discuss what I'm missing out on

mr black
10-05-2005, 08:44 AM
I would love to see these guys live, does anyone have the faintest clue of when they will find their way to Australia ?

Also im watching Ember to inferno live, and whoa could Matt wear his guitar any higher !, in all the other clips i've got he has it between his legs, in this (obviously very early in the career) He has it at chest height.

big80smullet
10-05-2005, 09:13 AM
i like trivium. nuff said

Trivium
10-05-2005, 12:26 PM
I would love to see these guys live, does anyone have the faintest clue of when they will find their way to Australia ?

Also im watching Ember to inferno live, and whoa could Matt wear his guitar any higher !, in all the other clips i've got he has it between his legs, in this (obviously very early in the career) He has it at chest height.

yeah

shorts and a t-shirt and wicked high guitar.... soooo noobish

matt now= ****ing metal as ****

Trivium
10-06-2005, 04:36 PM
HOLY ****ING ****, all I can say is that. Holy ****

"""We are pretty much sick of people labeling us a "metalcore" band, because..we dont like metalcore. We dont do breakdowns and anything like that, and we just want to be a metalband. So the next record is definitely breaking away from the metalcore thing. With the next record you'll have a hard time relating the music to metalcore. Its going to have more technical guitarplaying. We're listening to a lot of Dream Theater and stuff like that, we're trying to put the guitarplaying on a higher level and create a more epic kind of sound. Some songs will be typically Trivium, heavy rocking groove stuff, but some will be more on the technical, progressive side. It will still be easy for someone to listen to because of the melody. Another idea was changing the vocal style. Less of the brutal, screaming metalcore thing. More of a sort of James Hetfield-esque thing like on ...And Justice For All. We have some ideas we want to add to the new record instead of coming out with "Ascendency 2". It really has to be something on its own."""

corey on the new record

oh my god, this is going to be so amazing

metallica fan
10-06-2005, 04:53 PM
wooh, i saw trivium a week ago.Kick as.s show
I also gotta talk t oli herbert from all that remains :thumb:

Trivium
10-06-2005, 06:13 PM
the lack of posting in this thread is rediculous

KittensInMicrowaves
10-06-2005, 10:01 PM
HOLY ****ING ****, all I can say is that. Holy ****

"""We are pretty much sick of people labeling us a "metalcore" band, because..we dont like metalcore. We dont do breakdowns and anything like that, and we just want to be a metalband. So the next record is definitely breaking away from the metalcore thing. With the next record you'll have a hard time relating the music to metalcore. Its going to have more technical guitarplaying. We're listening to a lot of Dream Theater and stuff like that, we're trying to put the guitarplaying on a higher level and create a more epic kind of sound. Some songs will be typically Trivium, heavy rocking groove stuff, but some will be more on the technical, progressive side. It will still be easy for someone to listen to because of the melody. Another idea was changing the vocal style. Less of the brutal, screaming metalcore thing. More of a sort of James Hetfield-esque thing like on ...And Justice For All. We have some ideas we want to add to the new record instead of coming out with "Ascendency 2". It really has to be something on its own."""

corey on the new record

oh my god, this is going to be so amazing

That is interesting.... sounds good, but I like the screaming, hope they keep some of it

FlyingPaul_83
10-06-2005, 10:06 PM
That is interesting.... sounds good, but I like the screaming, hope they keep some of it


yeah same here.

I love ...And Justice For All, so if this new album is anything like it, then it should kick ***.

mr black
10-07-2005, 03:23 AM
God... haha they better deliver their talking this album up something terrible, although from what we've seen so early in a career could anyone doubt them.

i am the robots
10-07-2005, 08:16 AM
HOLY ****ING ****, all I can say is that. Holy ****

"""We are pretty much sick of people labeling us a "metalcore" band, because..we dont like metalcore. We dont do breakdowns and anything like that, and we just want to be a metalband. So the next record is definitely breaking away from the metalcore thing. With the next record you'll have a hard time relating the music to metalcore. Its going to have more technical guitarplaying. We're listening to a lot of Dream Theater and stuff like that, we're trying to put the guitarplaying on a higher level and create a more epic kind of sound. Some songs will be typically Trivium, heavy rocking groove stuff, but some will be more on the technical, progressive side. It will still be easy for someone to listen to because of the melody. Another idea was changing the vocal style. Less of the brutal, screaming metalcore thing. More of a sort of James Hetfield-esque thing like on ...And Justice For All. We have some ideas we want to add to the new record instead of coming out with "Ascendency 2". It really has to be something on its own."""

corey on the new record

oh my god, this is going to be so amazing

Good freaking news!

cliff solos for all
10-08-2005, 12:34 PM
my god trivum fuc,kin amazing saw them live in dublin
such savage mussicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

nowitzki
10-08-2005, 12:57 PM
HOLY ****ING ****, all I can say is that. Holy ****

"""We are pretty much sick of people labeling us a "metalcore" band, because..we dont like metalcore. We dont do breakdowns and anything like that, and we just want to be a metalband. So the next record is definitely breaking away from the metalcore thing. With the next record you'll have a hard time relating the music to metalcore. Its going to have more technical guitarplaying. We're listening to a lot of Dream Theater and stuff like that, we're trying to put the guitarplaying on a higher level and create a more epic kind of sound. Some songs will be typically Trivium, heavy rocking groove stuff, but some will be more on the technical, progressive side. It will still be easy for someone to listen to because of the melody. Another idea was changing the vocal style. Less of the brutal, screaming metalcore thing. More of a sort of James Hetfield-esque thing like on ...And Justice For All. We have some ideas we want to add to the new record instead of coming out with "Ascendency 2". It really has to be something on its own."""

corey on the new record

oh my god, this is going to be so amazing

This makes me very excited, although hopefully Trivium aren't a band who get loads of success on their breakthrough album, then take years before they release another record, that won't live up to the hype.

scenesfromatheater
10-08-2005, 12:57 PM
Being more like Dream Theater is got to be a good thing

IAmAnAsshole
10-08-2005, 01:32 PM
I would be a big fan of this band if the cookie monster vocals weren't there :thumb:

Rawwwrrr rraaawwwwrrrr rrrrraaaawwwwrrr...

..just dont do it for me

Musically and techincally: top notch.

They have definate poitential

EDIT:

"""We are pretty much sick of people labeling us a "metalcore" band, because..we dont like metalcore. We dont do breakdowns and anything like that, and we just want to be a metalband. So the next record is definitely breaking away from the metalcore thing. With the next record you'll have a hard time relating the music to metalcore. Its going to have more technical guitarplaying. We're listening to a lot of Dream Theater and stuff like that, we're trying to put the guitarplaying on a higher level and create a more epic kind of sound. Some songs will be typically Trivium, heavy rocking groove stuff, but some will be more on the technical, progressive side. It will still be easy for someone to listen to because of the melody. Another idea was changing the vocal style. Less of the brutal, screaming metalcore thing. More of a sort of James Hetfield-esque thing like on ...And Justice For All. We have some ideas we want to add to the new record instead of coming out with "Ascendency 2". It really has to be something on its own."""

Smart guy :D

scenesfromatheater
10-08-2005, 01:59 PM
never heard a metal band before???

Turkish
10-09-2005, 02:14 AM
Matt's vocals are awesome I think, I think he has a great screaming/singing voice.

metallica fan
10-11-2005, 04:39 PM
hey id really appreciate it if anyone has the tab for the solo in fugue?
my bands covering and i cant find it anywhere.thanks if anyone has it

Shattered_Future
10-11-2005, 04:51 PM
I thought the vocals were the weakest part of the band...they aren't really anything special.

He actually sings, though, which is a pretty rare thing in popular American metal...his singing voice is decent.

However, Trivium has now been officially bastardized by somebody I know, who I will refer to as Top 40.

Apparently, he has discovered this band, which means he will be like "OMG Trivium are liek soooo am4zing!" Which will completely destroy any shred of liking I had for this band.

So you can all say thank you to him for finding this band.

Joe
10-11-2005, 04:57 PM
I thought the vocals were the weakest part of the band...they aren't really anything special.

He actually sings, though, which is a pretty rare thing in popular American metal...his singing voice is decent.

However, Trivium has now been officially bastardized by somebody I know, who I will refer to as Top 40.

Apparently, he has discovered this band, which means he will be like "OMG Trivium are liek soooo am4zing!" Which will completely destroy any shred of liking I had for this band.

So you can all say thank you to him for finding this band.

"Finding" lol, who is this? Although they've been bastardized it doesn't make their music any worse.

Does anyone find the song Dying In Your Arms completely out of place? It sounds very emo (except the guitar is amazing) and the rest if very heavy metal

hey id really appreciate it if anyone has the tab for the solo in fugue?
my bands covering and i cant find it anywhere.thanks if anyone has it

mxtabs.net

FlyingPaul_83
10-11-2005, 05:04 PM
Does anyone find the song Dying In Your Arms completely out of place? It sounds very emo (except the guitar is amazing) and the rest if very heavy metal



Thats is by far the worst song by trivium.

WORST SONG EVER.

The rest of the cd is incredible though.

metallica fan
10-11-2005, 05:09 PM
mxtabs.net

the solo isnt there.Thanks though

nowitzki
10-11-2005, 05:09 PM
Does anyone find the song Dying In Your Arms completely out of place? It sounds very emo (except the guitar is amazing) and the rest if very heavy metal


Yeah, I completely agree

Scuba_Steve
10-11-2005, 05:38 PM
Thats is by far the worst song by trivium.

WORST SONG EVER.

The rest of the cd is incredible though.
the solo is very catchy, so that kinda makes up for it

cliff solos for all
10-12-2005, 12:13 PM
This makes me very excited, although hopefully Trivium aren't a band who get loads of success on their breakthrough album, then take years before they release another record, that won't live up to the hype.
they start recording in may ut b4 end of summer 2006 they recoreded on the road

kurt98
10-12-2005, 12:40 PM
Inthe solo dying in your arms, they rip of a riff from bark at the moon(the outro of bark at the moon, the pull-offs). Anyone else notice that?

tomg666
10-20-2005, 05:47 AM
please help me my friend here thinks trivium are emo plz tell him hes a ****

guitar-god-in-training
10-20-2005, 05:49 AM
please help me my friend here thinks trivium are emo plz tell him hes a ****

your m8s a **** there so not emo:evil:

crag
10-20-2005, 05:49 AM
please help me my friend here thinks trivium are emo plz tell him hes a ****
calling him a **** won't resolve matters but they most definately are not emo

guitar-god-in-training
10-20-2005, 05:53 AM
calling him a **** won't resolve matters but they most definately are not emo

ok so hes not a **** triv rock

-The Frank
10-20-2005, 06:25 AM
just got into trivium, what should i download?

crag
10-20-2005, 06:39 AM
just got into trivium, what should i download?
my personal favourite song right now is rain so i'd recommend that

-The Frank
10-20-2005, 06:51 AM
k , downloading mofo

Wish
10-20-2005, 07:02 AM
k , downloading mofoGet When All Light Dies as well. That was the first Trivium song I heard. It is probably my favourite as well.

-The Frank
10-20-2005, 07:05 AM
^^ what would you guys clasify trivium as (genre)

crag
10-20-2005, 07:15 AM
^^ what would you guys clasify trivium as (genre)
apparently they're Metalcore

-The Frank
10-20-2005, 07:16 AM
metal core......thats like harcore screamo right?

crag
10-20-2005, 07:17 AM
metal core......thats like harcore screamo right?
i wouldn't know, i'm hopeless with genres

-The Frank
10-20-2005, 07:18 AM
dam, :(

KittensInMicrowaves
10-20-2005, 10:20 AM
apparently they're Metalcore

no they are NWOAHM

Trivium barely even have elements of metalcore.... they have far more in common with thrash or melodic death metal bands

and to moron who said metalcore is hardcore screamo... wow, just wow

crag
10-20-2005, 10:22 AM
no they are NWOAHM

Trivium barely even have elements of metalcore.... they have far more in common with thrash or melodic death metal bands

and to moron who said metalcore is hardcore screamo... wow, just wow
ah ok, i apologize:)

KittensInMicrowaves
10-20-2005, 10:24 AM
ah ok, i apologize:)

no prob... the other guy isn't a moron either, but metalcore is a mix of metal and hardcore, screamo is just a form of emo

Shred Danson
10-20-2005, 10:25 AM
apparently they're Metalcore

"We are pretty much sick of people labeling us a "metalcore" band, because..we dont like metalcore. We dont do breakdowns and anything like that, and we just want to be a metal band."

:)

How do you like these nuts, buddy?

ah ok, i apologize

No need to apologize to the dude, you didn't know any better. I wish people were more educated on what metalcore actually is, it seems nowadays whenever a "new" band comes out, people automatically label them as metalcore without even listening to them. That's bullshit.

KittensInMicrowaves
10-20-2005, 11:07 AM
:)

How do you like these nuts, buddy?



No need to apologize to the dude, you didn't know any better. I wish people were more educated on what metalcore actually is, it seems nowadays whenever a "new" band comes out, people automatically label them as metalcore without even listening to them. That's bullshit.

Originally posted by Corey of Trivium, hilarious....

I agree, I think its because most NWOAHM bands don't fit neatly into thrash or melodic death or metalcore... and thrash and melo-death fans are insane genre nazis who don't want these bands included in their sacred genres... but I think NWOAHM is a genre unto itself, albeit one with a limited number of bands

My_sweet_Shadow
10-21-2005, 08:39 PM
What can i say about Trivium.... they are the SH!T

Ascenandy one of the greatest releases to date:
very catchy riffs, good vocals both clean and hard (takes a few listens to get used to but still very good), and i give Corey a 10 out of 10 for his solo's plus i think there are a few dual solo's thown in there so Matt is no bum with the guitar either.
Fav songs from the album: Rain, Pull Harder on the Strings of your Martyr, A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation, Like Light to the Flies, Suffocating Sight, Departure,

Britton
10-22-2005, 12:02 AM
So I've been listening to ascendency a lot lately
I'm not a huge trivium fan so if you all could hook me up with
some older/you're favourite stuff that would be great

Ninju
10-22-2005, 01:55 AM
So I've been listening to ascendency a lot lately
I'm not a huge trivium fan so if you all could hook me up with
some older/you're favourite stuff that would be great
Older stuff. I have ETI and their 2003 Demo if you'd like some of those songs, send me a PM.

cowboy_from_hell
10-22-2005, 05:57 AM
So I've been listening to ascendency a lot lately
I'm not a huge trivium fan so if you all could hook me up with
some older/you're favourite stuff that would be great

Download - if i could collapse the masses, Pillars of Serpents, From Ember to Inferno, Requiem and Fugue

cliff solos for all
10-22-2005, 08:18 AM
MATT SAYS THERE METAL AND METAL ONLY!!!

http://www.toazted.com/player.php?mp3id=1061

LISTEN TO THAT

cowboy_from_hell
10-22-2005, 09:30 AM
MATT SAYS THERE METAL AND METAL ONLY!!!

http://www.toazted.com/player.php?mp3id=1061

LISTEN TO THAT

That was cool thanks man.

Britton
10-22-2005, 01:43 PM
I don't have a download service. But I'll ask some friends for those
songs ya'll mentioned


That was a great interview

cliff solos for all
10-22-2005, 02:57 PM
no prob
and http://www.fabchannel.com/ go down the list on the right and theres a 55mins concert of trivium

crag
10-22-2005, 03:41 PM
no prob
and http://www.fabchannel.com/ go down the list on the right and theres a 55mins concert of trivium
that website refuses to stream for me:upset:

Ninju
10-22-2005, 06:00 PM
that website refuses to stream for me:upset:
You can download the full concert from Triviumworld.com

Britton
10-22-2005, 06:32 PM
Can I save it on my pc that way?

Ninju
10-22-2005, 08:16 PM
Can I save it on my pc that way?
Things are easier to save when you are using Firefox, but yeah, should be able to just right click the link and go to save target as.save link as.

Itwasthatwas
10-22-2005, 08:17 PM
I agree, I think its because most NWOAHM bands don't fit neatly into thrash or melodic death or metalcore... and thrash and melo-death fans are insane genre nazis who don't want these bands included in their sacred genres... but I think NWOAHM is a genre unto itself, albeit one with a limited number of bands

NWOAHM is not metalcore. The new wave of american heavy metal already happened, a very, very, long time ago (think thrash). Metalcore itself is a stupid genre classification considering bands like Trivium contain much less hardcore in their sound than they do melodeath and thrash (though obviously it is still present, in song structures and vocal style). But so many 'metalcore' bands are so pathetically misclassified. A lot of them are mainly melodeath, with heavy thrash influences, and then hardcores song structures and yet get thrown into the 'metalcore' genre. There melodeath bands that had songs that could easily have been considered 'metalcore' today back in the mid-nineties, but instead of getting crucified by the scene they get respect. People need to really analyze the music they're listening to and consider the history of metal leading up to the bands before they misclassify these bands.

mr black
10-23-2005, 12:20 AM
You can download the full concert from Triviumworld.com

MASTER ! MASTER !, was headbanging when they started playing MOP, pretty awsome show. Gunshot to the head of trepidation pwned so ridiculously hard live :thumb:

Britton
10-23-2005, 01:55 AM
NWOAHM is not metalcore. The new wave of american heavy metal already happened, a very, very, long time ago (think thrash). Metalcore itself is a stupid genre classification considering bands like Trivium contain much less hardcore in their sound than they do melodeath and thrash (though obviously it is still present, in song structures and vocal style). But so many 'metalcore' bands are so pathetically misclassified. A lot of them are mainly melodeath, with heavy thrash influences, and then hardcores song structures and yet get thrown into the 'metalcore' genre. There melodeath bands that had songs that could easily have been considered 'metalcore' today back in the mid-nineties, but instead of getting crucified by the scene they get respect. People need to really analyze the music they're listening to and consider the history of metal leading up to the bands before they misclassify these bands.


That was a great statement

Ninju
10-23-2005, 02:28 AM
MASTER ! MASTER !, was headbanging when they started playing MOP, pretty awsome show. Gunshot to the head of trepidation pwned so ridiculously hard live :thumb:
Yeah, gunshot is definitely a fun one to hear live. Trivium's live presence is pretty awesome!

Britton
10-23-2005, 03:00 AM
Matt is great!

I'm gonna see them in my town!

Ninju
10-24-2005, 08:15 PM
Matt is great!

I'm gonna see them in my town!
Yep! I'll be seeing them twice this November.

Britton
10-24-2005, 10:54 PM
That's great where are you seeing them?

Ninju
10-25-2005, 12:21 AM
That's great where are you seeing them?
# November 25th -> Slim's : San Francisco, CA
# November 27th -> House of Blues : Hollywood, CA

Shadows Within
10-25-2005, 12:25 AM
im seein them in december with COB \m/:evil: \m/

mr black
10-25-2005, 12:36 AM
When Matt said in that interview a couple of pages back that they'd be doing Australia at some point... it made me happy in my pants :chug:

Britton
10-25-2005, 02:49 AM
LoL That's funny


I can't wait. They are playing with COB here too!

astrangerinthenight
10-25-2005, 03:18 AM
trivium are a band to watch the are new and already are fast becoming a household name and A Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation is prob my fav song and im so envious of you all you is seeing them soon

Turkish
10-25-2005, 05:59 AM
I wanna see Trivium but there's no <3 to us Kansas folk. :(

Shred Danson
10-25-2005, 08:08 AM
MATT SAYS THERE METAL AND METAL ONLY!!!

http://www.toazted.com/player.php?mp3id=1061

LISTEN TO THAT

Yeah, we've uh, already established that.

-The Frank
10-25-2005, 08:12 AM
matt wrote a introduction forward for the spcial edition metal hammer issue for iron maiden.,.......

Britton
10-25-2005, 03:31 PM
Really? is it online anywhere?

Britton
10-25-2005, 09:36 PM
Hey the video section is back up

Hvae you all heard that cover of for whom the bell tolls?

mr black
10-26-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeah, i think its terrible... All respect to Matt musically, but after watching these live performances, Matt seems to struggle when singing his high notes (clean bits). However his uber gutteral makes up for it :thumb:

Ninju
10-27-2005, 12:10 AM
Yeah, i think its terrible... All respect to Matt musically, but after watching these live performances, Matt seems to struggle when singing his high notes (clean bits). However his uber gutteral makes up for it :thumb:
That's because they have been touring for two years straight pretty much NON stop. and for another year or more

Flynn
10-27-2005, 12:15 AM
Yeah, i think its terrible... All respect to Matt musically, but after watching these live performances, Matt seems to struggle when singing his high notes (clean bits). However his uber gutteral makes up for it :thumb:


On stage, there should be no flaws, if there are flaws as severe as singing, it's over. I can record an album by myself and garauntee it to sell, but I can't play all the instruments on stage. Live performances are everything now-a-days. If he can't sing live, he better get his shlt together.

mr black
10-27-2005, 01:55 AM
On stage, there should be no flaws, if there are flaws as severe as singing, it's over. I can record an album by myself and garauntee it to sell, but I can't play all the instruments on stage. Live performances are everything now-a-days. If he can't sing live, he better get his shlt together.

Testify !!!:thumb: , However his guitar work is pure sex.

"That's because they have been touring for two years straight pretty much NON stop. and for another year or more"

So what, Metallica went years at a time, and James always sounded as good as the recording and most often better.

shredgodinthemaking
10-27-2005, 04:57 AM
Trivium are the best band ever!!!!!
i can play all there songs on guitar apart from decleration.
Can sum1 please tab decleration on guitar, please.

tattered_kuma
10-27-2005, 06:00 AM
i havent heard much of embers to inferno but what ive heard i liked i have ascendancy and i love it its a great album i love pull harder on the strings of your martyr and a gunshot to the head of trepedation

mr black
10-27-2005, 06:03 AM
Trivium are the best band ever!!!!!
i can play all there songs on guitar apart from decleration.
Can sum1 please tab decleration on guitar, please.

Please refrain from ever calling a band "the best band ever" ever again. Also i would love some help with Ember to inferno's verse riff because i thought i'd give it a go, i reckon its a really groovy riff, im having trouble with the picking pattern. if you could record you playing it that'd be awsome to.:thumb:

Yppolitia
10-27-2005, 07:11 AM
i havent heard much of embers to inferno but what ive heard i liked i have ascendancy and i love it its a great album i love pull harder on the strings of your martyr and a gunshot to the head of trepedation
The first album is pretty good. You should check it out obviously. The vocals are no way as powerful and the guitar isnt as good. Nevertheless its still impressive guitar work.

Gimp
10-27-2005, 08:04 AM
I thought that they were really good :D

Matas
10-27-2005, 10:44 AM
im not a huge fan of trivium, i just find they are yet another generic sounding band. Just because i think that doesnt mean im denying their talent.
its too bad they are playing with COB and Amon Amarth

KittensInMicrowaves
10-27-2005, 11:14 AM
im not a huge fan of trivium, i just find they are yet another generic sounding band. Just because i think that doesnt mean im denying their talent.
its too bad they are playing with COB and Amon Amarth

People have only been saying that since they got popular, when I bought Ascendancy in March, not too many people had heard of them, and they were widely considered to be a very impressive up and coming metal act. Since they've gained popularity, there's been a surprising backlash against them... I don't get it, the music is the same now as it was in March

asmodeusisgod
10-27-2005, 12:31 PM
I like trivium a lot, there are not a whole lot of bands that can pull of dual guitar leads like matt and corey do

i am the robots
10-27-2005, 12:41 PM
People have only been saying that since they got popular, when I bought Ascendancy in March, not too many people had heard of them, and they were widely considered to be a very impressive up and coming metal act. Since they've gained popularity, there's been a surprising backlash against them... I don't get it, the music is the same now as it was in March

WOW Kittens actually said something worthwhile for once!

Turkish
10-27-2005, 01:38 PM
People have only been saying that since they got popular, when I bought Ascendancy in March, not too many people had heard of them, and they were widely considered to be a very impressive up and coming metal act. Since they've gained popularity, there's been a surprising backlash against them... I don't get it, the music is the same now as it was in March


That happens to almost every band. See: Avenged Sevenfold.

Britton
10-27-2005, 02:13 PM
yep A7X is another of those bands that is up and coming.

It's funny my two favourite albums of the year are ascendancy
and City of Evil

Yppolitia
10-27-2005, 02:14 PM
yep A7X is another of those bands that is up and coming.

It's funny my two favourite albums of the year are ascendancy
and City of Evil
Why is it funny :confused:

Britton
10-27-2005, 02:15 PM
Cuase it's like they come into my life this year...then they come to my town...
then they reslease new albums and I get to see two incredible bands
that I hope to be with for the next twenty years

KittensInMicrowaves
10-27-2005, 03:29 PM
That happens to almost every band. See: Avenged Sevenfold.

I can understand with A7X, they changed their style between albums, there is reason for backlash. Nothing changed with Trivium between March and now other than their general popularity

Britton
10-27-2005, 03:30 PM
I'm really hapy for them. They work really hard and it's starting to pay off

Britton
10-28-2005, 01:54 PM
So I'm learning ascendancy and the end of everything.

anyone else learning Trivium stuff?

crag
10-28-2005, 01:55 PM
So I'm learning ascendancy and the end of everything.

anyone else learning Trivium stuff?
i plan to learn Rain once i get decent pick-ups in my Strat:)

Britton
10-28-2005, 02:10 PM
I love how the album go's from TEOE to Rain. I play it really loud
then it comes into the metal and just kicks ***.

Nearly knocked my budy over

Turkish
10-28-2005, 02:56 PM
I'm learning Gunshot right now on Guitar, but I just got Requiem minus the solo down.

MindPhish
10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
I picked up the new album after I heard a song on Uranium. All I listened to for a month, I like 'em. I want to try learning some songs.

Endless Obsession
10-28-2005, 03:18 PM
Everyone nominate Matt in the 100 Greatest vocalists thread.

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 03:26 PM
No dude, Trivium is great, but Matt Heafy is a horrible vocalist, he doesn't scream correctly, and his clean vocals are terrible. I love his lyrics though :).

Turkish
10-28-2005, 03:28 PM
I love his screaming...

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 03:29 PM
I enjoy it too, but it's definately not correctly performed, plus he's a horrible live vocalist.

Turkish
10-28-2005, 03:31 PM
Ah, well I haven't seen them live yet.

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 03:33 PM
Don't, according to Bobo The Raging Hobo, he runs out of breath and loses his voice, and according to live files I downloaded, Bobo's accusations are true.

shamed-angel
10-28-2005, 03:34 PM
Ah, well I haven't seen them live yet.
They are a good live act though. In all fairness.

Josh
10-28-2005, 03:39 PM
Ollie (Lord Abortion) saw them at Download i think, he said they were a pretty good live act.

shamed-angel
10-28-2005, 03:40 PM
I saw them before everyone started bumming them and got loads of pictures with the band stuff. They were class. This was just after the new album came out.

Poofy 666
10-28-2005, 03:41 PM
hopefully they will lose their metalcore influences and give their guitarists real solols*

my only complaint with Ascendancy

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 03:42 PM
They are a good live act though. In all fairness.

They are good, just not Heafy's vocals.

KittensInMicrowaves
10-28-2005, 04:52 PM
They are good, just not Heafy's vocals.

I actually love Heafy's vocals... his scream grew on me, I love his half sing/half scream he pulls out only a few times on the album, sounds like Hetfield a little. The vocal harmonies they do in the choruses are kind of cool, I'm not sure if that is only Heafy though

Britton
10-28-2005, 06:08 PM
I'm not much of a scream fan, but I enjoy matts vocals Ithink he sould
stop screaming and leave that to the rest of the band but you know that's just me

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 06:12 PM
I actually love Heafy's vocals... his scream grew on me, I love his half sing/half scream he pulls out only a few times on the album, sounds like Hetfield a little. The vocal harmonies they do in the choruses are kind of cool, I'm not sure if that is only Heafy though

I'm not saying that he is a bad vocal writer, I'm saying that he's a bad vocalist. He does everything incorrectly.

Britton
10-28-2005, 06:12 PM
He does scream badly

He won't have a voice by the time He's 25

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 06:18 PM
That's so true, want to know why? He closes his throat to create rasp rather than leaving his throat open and pushing air to the back of his throat. I can't even imagine how many horrible horrible sore throats that man gets, because let me tell you, when you scream incorrectly long enough, you cannot speak properly for at least two days and then it hurts for about a week... then you have someone like him who does it for a living.... ouch, it makes me feel horrible for Jesse Leach, and horrible to a lesser degree for Matt Shadows.

Britton
10-28-2005, 06:22 PM
I think shadows is gonna be okay now...he can't break much more then he
already has. Matt on the other hand needs some help. I've even heard him say
that his voice hurts. IN this one concert he's like "Does everyone elses voice
hurt as much as mine does?"


God please stop matt

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 06:24 PM
Yeah, seriously. He should just have a conversation with one of the old regs from the Jam Session (Merkaba-1) that man gave the perfect step by step description on screaming correctly.

KittensInMicrowaves
10-28-2005, 06:41 PM
Yeah, seriously. He should just have a conversation with one of the old regs from the Jam Session (Merkaba-1) that man gave the perfect step by step description on screaming correctly.

yeah hopefully he's careful with that

i am the robots
10-28-2005, 06:43 PM
Definately, because pretty soon: bamf agh blood going all over his microphone, horrible wretching and stabbing pain in the vocal chords.

Britton
10-28-2005, 06:45 PM
Well you know it's gonna happen...just when?