The Trivium Thread, Bitches

[MRDuCran]

You can still tell it's Trivium, they still have those half time singing parts like the Ascendancy chorus.

[Trivium]

its a ****ing masterpiece.

[MRDuCran]

I prefer the previous release but I'm sure others will agree.

[Quiksilver26]

For whatever reason, I really can't stand listening to more than one or two tracks off Ascendancy at once anymore... soo imo, The Crusade >>>>>>>>>>>> Ascendancy :).

[Txus]

For a guy who never liked Ascendancy (me), is The Crusade worth checking out?

[Poofy 666]

No. Go listen to the new Amon Amarth or UneXpect instead

[Txus]

Will do :)

Ohshi, I already listened to those albums WAAYY too many times. Well, I won't check the new trivium album, I really disliked Ascendancy.....

[Poofy 666]

Me neither, i thought it was below average at first, but then I saw them live and they made me hate it.

[Txus]

I'll stop bashing this band because I think it's pretty stupid to bash bands in their own threads but. seriously, this guys kinda suck. I've seen them live and the vocalist, ugh.

/Pukes

[Po0osH]

This album is missing the speed that their previous one had. Only a few songs are fast, the rest are middle-paced, so that is teh sucks. But it is really melodic so that is cool. I donno I will have to listen to it several more times to see if I prefer it over ascendancy.

[Forlorn Hope]

Yeah it leaked. But I'm not downloading since I think their music is poo. If anyone wants the link, I can send it.

I would like the link please, if its not a bother.

[Po0osH]

Holy **** I am listening to the album for the first time, and the song Tread the Floods has a really sick chorus.

[Forlorn Hope]

Holy **** I am listening to the album for the first time, and the song Tread the Floods has a really sick chorus.

I'm downloading them now, and listening to that one now. I like the album a lot so far.

Just got to the chorus...:eek:

:D

[Aaron]

i dont really like trivium.

[Benzum]

And be labeled one trick ponies?

I didn't mean that, they should have stuck with that they were doing on Ascendancy but evolve as bands normally do, not just be a younger shitter Metallica

its a ****ing masterpiece.

ahahahahaha

[-The Frank]

I would like the link please, if its not a bother.


myself as well

[Grumma]

Great . . .

[Irons_rock]

Heard a few songs from the new album and they have all been pretty good.
Just about to download the crusade now :)

[3FingeredHoek]

myself as well


Yeah, me also.

[Forlorn Hope]

Yeah, me also.

If you guys email me I'll upload and send it later when I'm not about to be busy.

three_over_one@msn.com

[3FingeredHoek]

If you guys email me I'll upload and send it later when I'm not about to be busy.

three_over_one@msn.com

Thanks. My email is sandyevan@gmail.com.

[-The Frank]

dr_homely@hotmail.com

[MRDuCran]

There's a torrent on torrentspy.com

[Wish]

Ah, fantastic. Thank you.

The BitTorrent search engine for Firefox must not search there :(

EDIT: Okay, it's finished. Why the **** didn't they pre-release Ignition like they did Detonation and others? That song is incredible. I still hate the first solo in Detonation though, but the chorus owns hard.

[Quiksilver26]

A lot of Trivium solos piss me off actually... It's not that I don't enjoy them, or find them bad or anything, but I really feel that they could add a lot more to the songs if they weren't mostly just shredding. IMO of course :)

[XEmoXTearsX]

I havn't really heard that many tunes by Trivium, but from what i have heard, they are one of my favorite bands! I'ver listened to: Dying in your arms, Pull harder on the strings, A gunshot to the head, The Anthem, and i think i've listened to one more, but i don't know.....and can't remember what it's called. I really want to get one of Trivium's albums.

[Quiksilver26]

From that list, it sounds like you've heard mostly stuff off Ascendancy.. so that should probably be the first one that you get. I really recommend The Crusade though, i've listened to it almost as much as A Matter of Life and Death (which is a hell of a lot).

[Grumma]

I havn't really heard that many tunes by Trivium, but from what i have heard, they are one of my favorite bands! I'ver listened to: Dying in your arms, Pull harder on the strings, A gunshot to the head, The Anthem, and i think i've listened to one more, but i don't know.....and can't remember what it's called. I really want to get one of Trivium's albums.

If you prefer screaming over singing go Ascendancy.
Otherwise wait for the Crusade (or just get both lol)

[Benzum]

Trivium don't have screaming, it's more of a weak shout

Ascendancy remains their best release

[LJJPLJ]

I personally like the new album, i think their musicianship has grown from the last album.

[Huber]

A lot of Trivium solos piss me off actually... It's not that I don't enjoy them, or find them bad or anything, but I really feel that they could add a lot more to the songs if they weren't mostly just shredding. IMO of course :)

Really? I recommend you dissect there solos once more and give em' another chance. I think they are very good at keeping great melodies and good shred in good balance and harmony.

[MRDuCran]

I think their solos sound very amature tbh.

[Quiksilver26]

Really? I recommend you dissect there solos once more and give em' another chance. I think they are very good at keeping great melodies and good shred in good balance and harmony.

I actually did this today :lol:, can't seem to stop listening to The Crusade. My opinion however hasn't really changed... I can see where you're coming from though. In terms of solos I like the one in And Sadness Will Sear the most, that's a damn good one :).

I dunno, to me it just seems that they're playing fast for the sake of it =\

[exup]

Singing on the last album is crap, can't take this band serious anymore...
aren't they going to far with there "uh yeah we wanna be like metallica" stuff..

[Jimi Haze]

Bah.

New album is really good I think. Although I'm still not sure if any song has the appeal of Gunshot or Pull Harder...

[JollyRoger24]

Bah.

New album is really good I think. Although I'm still not sure if any song has the appeal of Gunshot or Pull Harder...

Gunshot and pull harder are like Triviums prized songs. They are the songs that took them from unknown to known unless your a crazy fan that knew them before. If you listen to the new album thinking about those songs your not going to like it. Or maybe you will just an opinion

[Jimi Haze]

Gunshot and pull harder are like Triviums prized songs. They are the songs that took them from unknown to known unless your a crazy fan that knew them before. If you listen to the new album thinking about those songs your not going to like it. Or maybe you will just an opinion

I never said I disliked the new album - far from it - I think it's bloody awesome. I like how he's singing more even if it is like a certain Mr Hetfield.

Detonation blew me away when I first heard it - as did The Crusade.

[Buttloaves]

The 1st 5 tracks on The Crusade are good, after that, it drops off for me. I like Ignition the best, the vocal melody is sweet.

[SimonCore]

Entrance of the Conflagration is good atm. As is Ignition and Detonation, Anthem I got bored of after like the 3rd listen. There's one called something like "the world can't tear us apart" and it's one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

It's a very decent album, but it doesn't even scratch Ascendancy.

[DKMode]

picked up the new cd today and i love it. i really dont see why everyone is saying its master of puppets but 20 years later. aside from the obvious fact that metallica influenced them, i really dont see that much resemblance, and its certainly not a rip off. and all the people say that matt heafy is trying to sound like hetfield...........shut the **** up. why dont you say dave mustaine, or phil anselmo, or the singer from basically all heavy bands after metallica are trying to copy him too. it just happens to be a good way of singing in thrash metal. kudos to trivium though cuz i think they did a great job on this one.

[Buttloaves]

Contempt Breeds Contamination sounds like a song from a band called.....Nevermore maybe?

[Huber]

Contempt Breeds Contamination sounds like a song from a band called.....Nevermore maybe?

It's the 7 string that does that I think.

[Drunken Viking]

Matt described the intro as Technical Death Metal. :lol:

[Huber]

Yeah, the way he labels stuff sometimes is odd. Especially after like, you see him wearing a Death shirt and then goes saying that.

But whatever, as a person Matt's kinda lame anyways.

[Nepenthe]

Yeah, Matt reminds me of that 13 year old who found a Nile cd at Best Buy.

[Drunken Viking]

I think he just has no idea of what it takes to be considered a technical band. Yes every band has technical parts, but bands like Necrophagist and later era Death have earned that title because almost all of their riffs are at least a little challenging, and their solos are inhumane. All I can that matt does is tremelo pick with his right hand while moving down the strings, and with his left he does similar fingering patterns.

[Nepenthe]

Well you see, there's a difference between technical and challenging. Matt writes challenging riffs and solos (well, some), but not technical. Technical moreso refers to odd time signatures, different picking techniques, weird scales and all that jazz. I just don't think he realizes the difference between the two.

[Eliminator]

matt reminds me of a 13 year old who constantly attempts to play eruption in a guitar center and yet still has a sense of dignity

[Nepenthe]

He's really ugly too.

[Drunken Viking]

:lol: I can totally see that being true.

[Poofy 666]

He's really ugly too.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/mayonaise_emo/MATT.jpg

http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/jeffcorwin/carnival/primate/gallery/orangutan_thumb.jpg

:eek:

[Drunken Viking]

Hahahahaha, it's sad how nicely those two sync up.

[DKMode]

lets lay off the guy a little bit. id like to remind everyone that hes only 20 and relatively inexperienced in life, and as he gets older will only get more kick ***, musically and vocally.

[Nepenthe]

Oh I think he makes pretty good music, but he's a bit of a tard.

[DKMode]

hes a complete lame *** as a person, i wont deny that. his bandmates are far cooler. i just dont see how his aesthetics have any relevance in this forum.

[Huber]

Everytime I've met Trivium (only twice but whatev) Corey and Paulo have been so cool.

[Drunken Viking]

What about Matt and Travis?

[Huber]

Matt didn't say more than "thank you", which really is what you should expect from meet and greets but compared to Paulo and Corey it seemed odd. Travis was almost the same way, but said a few more words like "Hey" and "Whats up"

Corey and Paulo were awesome. Complimenting my Pantera shirt, told me to enjoy the poster I bought, asked if I needed anything else autographed, etc... It's nice when the band members don't just kinda shove you off like your apart of an assembly line.

[Drunken Viking]

That kinda what happened with Behemoth, all of them shook my hand and said a few words. Except Nergal and I actually had a small conversation. The line for Trivium was massive though.

[Huber]

Dude, when I met Behemoth it was ****ing amazing. I was like 3rd in line and the two ahead of me had the free posters the give you just so you have something to get signed. I had brought a copy of Demigod to get signed and when I put it on the table they were like "This guy bought something!" and they were so funny and cool. All of them told me to enjoy Demigod and to have a great time for the rest of the night, shook my hand. They were pretty awesome.

So basically, buy the album.

[Grumma]

Contempt Breeds Contamination sounds like a song from a band called.....Nevermore maybe?

Theres also a song on there that reminds me of the intro to the Demons & Wizards song "Excalibur" lol

But other then that I like the new album muchly :)

[VomitStainedCretin]

Oh I think he makes pretty good music, but he's a bit of a tard.

Yeah, this is pretty much my position on Heafy. What Ive heard of the Crusade isnt Ascendancy standard, but theres actually some good stuff on it.

[Drummer300btx]

I bought the crusade yesterday. I'm impressed. not like anything i've really heard before. sounds like its... metal. i dont realyl know how descirbe it. i like it though.

[MRDuCran]

Their full set is up on some Download website. It's all pro shot too.

[RockGuitarist501]

i bought the crusade today and i havent really stopped listening to it. i think its a great album. alot diffrent from Asendency, but still good. my favorites so far are Detonation, Sadness will sear, to the rats, this world cant tear us apart, tread the floods, and contemp breeds contamination. good stuff.

im going to go see trivium in Detroit this saturday. saw them last year at the same place and they kicked ***. cant wait. :)

[DKMode]

so at first i thought the crusade was a very average metal record, but i gotta say that its been in my CD player in my car since i bought it, and ive probably listened to it 7 or 8 times the whole way through since tuesday when i bought it. its a very good CD. also, the more i listen to it, the more i realize that it really isnt that much of a metallice rip off at all. the only song that even resembles metallica is unrepentant where the riff is basically the same as through the never, but other than that the music is very similar to ascendancy. i think initially hearing matt heafy singing like hetfield and not screaming made people think it sounded alot more like metallica than it actually does.

[playguitar]

Now, I really don't get why people say Heafy sounds like Hetfield. They really sound nothing alike to me, besides the fact that they sing cleanly. It's funny, one band sings cleanly nowadays, and the singer "sounds like Hetfield." That's bull. Early Hetfield has a much a more rough around the edges voice, and actually tries to sing less, whereareas it seems like Heafy tries to sing everything now, not really having the shorter bark Hetfield is known for. I don't like Trivium, and they don't sound like Metallica. And it seems very strange that a band would play it's old songs with such an extreme change as making the vocals singing instead of screaming, it sounds very wierd, and if I were a fan I'd be dissapointed, and angry. Play the song as it was written, look at Metallica, when Hetfield started to "sing."

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I could hear the '90s Hetfield-isms in the new song I heard.

[Huber]

I can definetly hear the Hetfield, but IMO it worked for em'.

I'm glad he's not screaming anymore. Do you know how many shows Matt was ****ing up at because screaming was totally ****ing up his voice?

[VomitStainedCretin]

I can definetly hear the Hetfield, but IMO it worked for em'.

I'm glad he's not screaming anymore. Do you know how many shows Matt was ****ing up at because screaming was totally ****ing up his voice?

Yeah, Ive seen them live twice and Matt was having to get Corey and co. to elp him out a lot.

[Crysiss]

Matts vocals wouldnt bug me as much if I didnt know that theyre trying to be the next metallica.

[SixStringKing]

Trivium in detroit tomorrow w00t VIP tickets and such, and yeah matts voice has improved alot, and yeah corey and paolo( SP ) (lawlz) help matt out alot in concert, but its only for dual parts.

[SixStringKing]

Trivium Fvcking Rocked so damn hard tonight... Everyone should also check out, SWORD.. they were really good classic style (sabbath) metal

[Huber]

Good to hear it man. I'm seeing them on the 29th.

[Irons_rock]

I think that their new albums good but the worst so far out of there albums.

[Lionheart1827]

Matts vocals wouldnt bug me as much if I didnt know that theyre trying to be the next metallica.

As long as I have been listening to them, they dont remind me at all of metallica.

[SixStringKing]

its basically impossible for them not to remind you of metallica when unrepentant is THROUGH THE NEVER... but hey i still love trivium, AND I GOT MY PICTURE TAKEN WITH THEM LIKE OMGZZZZ

[Forlorn Hope]

I like all of Triviums albums, but it annoys me how since Matt stopped screaming, all of the screaming parts of their old songs are changed live, and I think that completely ruins the older songs. He does the Hetfield thing, which I like, but not for the parts that were written for screaming.

Luckily I can easily avoid that by simply listening to the album instead :)

[SixStringKing]

well.. corey screams live.. so its okay ( at least he did all the screaming for pull harder, ascendancy, like light to flies, and ember to inferno in DET) Matt managed to belt out Gunshot

[i am the robots]

Corey's screaming is even more laughable than Matt's tbh, it's hilarious.

[Lionheart1827]

its basically impossible for them not to remind you of metallica when unrepentant is THROUGH THE NEVER... but hey i still love trivium, AND I GOT MY PICTURE TAKEN WITH THEM LIKE OMGZZZZ

Yeah I'll give you that. I've never seen them live, but I'd love to. I think my current favorite song is Tread The Floods.:thumb:

[Disturbed Rule]

I like all of Triviums albums, but it annoys me how since Matt stopped screaming, all of the screaming parts of their old songs are changed live, and I think that completely ruins the older songs. He does the Hetfield thing, which I like, but not for the parts that were written for screaming.

Luckily I can easily avoid that by simply listening to the album instead :)

I thought Matt ruptured his voice box or something and thats why he cant scream anymore?

[-The Frank]

So can anyone find videos of shows from their current tour?

[DKMode]

I thought Matt ruptured his voice box or something and thats why he cant scream anymore?

thats M. Shadows from Avenged Sevenfold your thinking of. Matt Heafy just didnt know how to sing properly so he decided it would be easier to just scream. now he has a vocal coach and has learned how to sing, so unless it is absolutely necessary in the future he will only sing now.

[here comes the bird flu]

the name of this thread should be 'Gunshot to the thread of Trepidation'.

[Nepenthe]

As if people need more reason to blindly insult Trivium.

[Eliminator]

the name of this thread should be 'Gunshot to the thread of Trepidation'.

hahaha

[here comes the bird flu]

As if people need more reason to blindly insult Trivium.

i'm serious...

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I quite like that idea actually, very creative.

[Forlorn Hope]

Thread The Floods

[Drunken Viking]

I thought they were gonna not do anymore puns for thread titles.

[Nepenthe]

They can definately write hooky riffs and melodies.

Beyond that, I wouldn't be willing to give them so many compliments.

I do realize that I've made it appear that I'm a die hard Trivium fan, but to be honest, I see them as nothing more than a decent band. The senseless bashing just aggravates me, and since no one else is there to stick up for the poor fools, I just go ahead and do it.

[Tortex88]

Hey, I finally got The Crusade the other day. Blown away. I like the Het-style singing better than the old screaming because it's more believable. It totally sounds like they're pissed. I mean, come on, who really screams/skwawks(like the old albums) when they're pissed.

I already noticed that Unrepentant sounds like Through The Never, but has anyone else noticed that To The Rats sounds like Dyers Eve?

[Perhaps Crickets]

Hey, I finally got The Crusade the other day. Blown away. I like the Het-style singing better than the old screaming because it's more believable. It totally sounds like they're pissed. I mean, come on, who really screams/skwawks(like the old albums) when they're pissed.

I already noticed that Unrepentant sounds like Through The Never, but has anyone else noticed that To The Rats sounds like Dyers Eve?

Ehhh. They are some of the biggest metallica fanboys on earth. Shocking, I think not.

[DKMode]

Hey, I finally got The Crusade the other day. Blown away. I like the Het-style singing better than the old screaming because it's more believable. It totally sounds like they're pissed. I mean, come on, who really screams/skwawks(like the old albums) when they're pissed.

I already noticed that Unrepentant sounds like Through The Never, but has anyone else noticed that To The Rats sounds like Dyers Eve?

unrepentant only sounds like through the never before the drums come in. when travis comes in hes playing on the opposite beat that through the never is on, so it sounds quite different even though the riffs are pretty similar. and from to the rats i dont get a metallica vibe at all (and it sounds nothing like dyers eve). i do, however, get a really strong slayer vibe. i even think he kinda sounds like tom araya in parts of it. anyone else notice that?

[x00046455]

unrepentant only sounds like through the never before the drums come in. when travis comes in hes playing on the opposite beat that through the never is on, so it sounds quite different even though the riffs are pretty similar. and from to the rats i dont get a metallica vibe at all (and it sounds nothing like dyers eve). i do, however, get a really strong slayer vibe. i even think he kinda sounds like tom araya in parts of it. anyone else notice that?

Yeah i actually did notice that. for a while i couldnt put my finger on it, but it does have a serious slayer feel to it. strange, not too bad though.

[here comes the bird flu]

tyty

[VomitStainedCretin]

unrepentant only sounds like through the never before the drums come in. when travis comes in hes playing on the opposite beat that through the never is on, so it sounds quite different even though the riffs are pretty similar. and from to the rats i dont get a metallica vibe at all (and it sounds nothing like dyers eve). i do, however, get a really strong slayer vibe. i even think he kinda sounds like tom araya in parts of it. anyone else notice that?

For some reason one of the riffs from Unrepentant reminds me of Disturbed. Does anyone else agree?

[here comes the bird flu]

For some reason one of the riffs from Unrepentant reminds me of Disturbed. Does anyone else agree?

depends on which riff you are talking about.

[VomitStainedCretin]

The one after Heafy sings "you take, you take their lives away" reminds me of Disturbed's Just Stop.

[here comes the bird flu]

hmm..

I don't know. I don't really listen to Distrubed; just sounds like Trivium to me..

[RockGuitarist501]

trivium are great. saw them this past saturday and they were kickass.

[Grumma]

The one after Heafy sings "you take, you take their lives away" reminds me of Disturbed's Just Stop.


Mmmm Unrepentant . . .

*swoon*

[VomitStainedCretin]

hmm..

I don't know. I don't really listen to Distrubed; just sounds like Trivium to me..

I dont care for Disturbed, but Ive heard their singles on Scuzz. That part of Unrepentant just feels to me a bit like Disturbed's riffage - not ripping off Disturbed. Unrepentant has possibly the best solo on the Crusade. The album itself is pretty average in my eyes and a step down from Ascendancy, not that it isnt enjoyable. For me, the Crusade is 5.5/10, Ascendancy is about 7.5/10 and Ember To Inferno is a 6.5/10.

[Corkofski]

hey guys,

yea, i need money...


im selling my trivium drum head, £40, signed by the whole band.

just advertising here before ebay.

email me if interested / you want pics at highonthedownlow@googlemail.com

it has been played by travis smith, and has some nice dents and sweat marks if you want his DNA...

[Irons_rock]

Going too see them in December with maiden.
Heard maiden arn't gonna play many classics though and just there new album. :[

[Corkofski]

that sucks ****...

im not seeing maiden this time round tho...

[Quiksilver26]

^and that's a bad thing? The current set for this tour is absolutely killer live.
Perhaps even the best I've seen Maiden was on this tour.

edit: to Irons rock, of course :)

[kurt98]

Is the new trivium albulm worth getting? I have ascendancy, and I like it.

[Wish]

Is the new trivium albulm worth getting? I have ascendancy, and I like it.There isn't a whole lot of difference in the music, it's just the vocals really. Check out their MySpace to listen to some of the new songs then decide if you want it.

[Grumma]

Haha dont do that cos the ones on their myspace apart from Unrepentant are my least faves :p

[Crysiss]

Is the new trivium albulm worth getting? I have ascendancy, and I like it.

buying, no. Downloading, maybe.

[VomitStainedCretin]

buying, no. Downloading, maybe.

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[\m/Pete\m/]

so whats bad about the new album? has anyone thats posting here actually listened to it?

[Drunken Viking]

Read my, ShadowsFallen, or MikeSN's review to get a good idea on the "bad" about the new album.

[here comes the bird flu]

Is the new trivium albulm worth getting? I have ascendancy, and I like it.

if you like Thrash, yes.

[Eliminator]

if you like trash, yes.

fix'd

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

It's a good album. People have got to stop being so ****ing critical all the damn time. It's a good metal album.

[Forlorn Hope]

Yeah, so I got bored...and when I get bored I record random riffs from songs I like.

http://media.putfile.com/Tread-The-Floods-Chorus-Riff
There's the chorus to Tread The Floods, possibly one of my favorite parts of the entire album. :)


EDIT: It's really short.

EDIT #2: Crap I just realized I missed a note when double tracking the lead. Oh well... :lol:

[SixStringKing]

its not noticable, but yeah good job whatd you use for drums?

[Forlorn Hope]

its not noticable, but yeah good job whatd you use for drums?

I used Acoustica Beatcraft. The snare, and ride were from Drumkit From Hell, the others were included with Beatcraft. BBE Sonic Maximizer makes drums sound a LOT better.

[Ibanex0110]

i think if you read what trivium say about how they wrote this album, "music that we enjoy listening to", that's exactly what it is. there is alot of parts on the cd that make you go "hmm, that sounds a little bit like such and such band" and i think it works for them. I don't think they have really found their own sound, but I think they are getting closer. I know that when I personally write songs, every one sounds similar to some sort of band/song.

anyway, what i'm getting at is I think it's stupid for people to bash Trivium, yeah some parts may sound like other bands, but they are doing what they love to do, and i'm sure getting paid very nicely for it...and there fans love it. I personally like the new cd, it has a lot of catchy parts to it. I think there are some songs that are quite cheesy, but hopefully they will outgrow that.

[Perhaps Crickets]

Bottom line: When you cannot write anything without copying another artists works, you suck. Plain and simple.

It works for them because of their kidiot following.

You clone your favorite bands because you idolize dipfukks like Trivium, who do the same thing.

Bottom, bottom line: They are massive Metallica fans and forgot to attach "cover band" along with their sleeve.

[Huber]

Bottom line: When you cannot write anything without copying another artists works, you suck. Plain and simple.

It works for them because of their kidiot following.

You clone your favorite bands because you idolize dipfukks like Trivium, who do the same thing.

Bottom, bottom line: They are massive Metallica fans and forgot to attach "cover band" along with their sleeve.

Dude, that WWWWWWWWWWWW location thing is annoying as ****.

[Drunken Viking]

It's a real mystery why he did it then.

[Huber]

I know, but I couldn't help it I had to say something :/

[SixStringKing]

Well... the new trvium cd pwns and is definately worth buying.. there was one song that sounded like metallica.. and yes matts vocals were hetfield esque but that doesnt make it a bad album... the album is sweetzors

[benfan]

Bottom line: When you cannot write anything without copying another artists works, you suck. Plain and simple.

It works for them because of their kidiot following.

You clone your favorite bands because you idolize dipfukks like Trivium, who do the same thing.

Bottom, bottom line: They are massive Metallica fans and forgot to attach "cover band" along with their sleeve.


Retard..

Yes they are massive metallica fans.
yes a large proportion of there fan base are young.
But that does not make them a bad band.

personally i love the new album. Some bits may be a little cheesy ( gang vocal section to anthem ) and some bits may be a little hetfield-esque.
but im starting to get annoyed with people saying theyre ripping off metallica.
i can only think of the odd few bits of the album in which it sounds like metallica, and ive been listening to metallica since i was 6 before you say im a noob.
I think people just see them as an easy band to hate on because there so young.
when they released ascendancy it was too 'emo' or 'metalcore', now theyve ditched the screaming which is so overly used in metal today, there ripping off metallica.

In the 80's most thrash metal bands sounded the same yet everyone still loved it.

I think trivium are just making music they love and there fans love, and personally i think there far too talented as musicians to rip off any other artists work.

/rant. :chug:

[Drunken Viking]

Pople don't like Trivium because they suck *** and make **** music. :)

[Tyrant21]

ive been on the fence about trivium, I feel that they are nowhere near as bad as naysayers claim or as good as fanboys do(go figure). But I cant stand some of the lyrics on the new album. Lines like "if you mess with my life, Ill mess with your blood" or "homophobia, racism, sexism etc." are just awful and the latter shows an utter lack of subtlety and seems like they are trying way to hard to "fight the good fight"

anyone else hate the lyrics?

[Huber]

ive been on the fence about trivium, I feel that they are nowhere near as bad as naysayers claim or as good as fanboys do(go figure). But I cant stand some of the lyrics on the new album. Lines like "if you mess with my life, Ill mess with your blood" or "homophobia, racism, sexism etc." are just awful and the latter shows an utter lack of subtlety and seems like they are trying way to hard to "fight the good fight"

anyone else hate the lyrics?

I like them for the most part. I totally agree with you on To The Rats though. I love the song, but some of the lines in that song are a tad embarassing. I quite like Ignition/Detonation though. Fighting the good fight, even if it means swaying one way then another, isn't a bad idea. People like to hear that, and it's fun to sing along to things like that.

Becoming the Dragon was a nice surprise lyrically. That and Ignition/Detonation are probably my favorite on the album lyrically.

[The Persian]

The show tonight was in-****ing-sanity:smoke:

[Apocalyptic Raids]

oh and use teh almighty capital "I" next post. ty sir
If you're going to criticise someone's grammar, then you might want to start your own sentences with capitals and end them with full stops. Just a thought.

[Huber]

Criticizing his grammar just shows you have nothing real to say.

edit: @ Charming

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Criticizing his grammar just shows you have nothing real to say.
When does he ever?

[Perhaps Crickets]

When does he ever?

lol, always. you are just an idiot sir

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Stop trolling. :mad:

[Huber]

I'd take that back until you've seen one of their more recent shows. Go youtube them.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

He's just upset 'cause he can't plat Trivium songs.

:D

[Kage]

Actually he's quite right.

[Huber]

Good for you.

/listens to Contempt Breeds Contamination

[Perhaps Crickets]

oh, and they should grow up quite a bit. They act like saviors of the world.

[Drunken Viking]

Good for you.

/listens to Contempt Breeds Contamination
Heafy called that song Technical Death Metal. I know what a retard.

[Huber]

I don't care what he calls it. I love that song.

[Drunken Viking]

Love it, or hate it?

[Perhaps Crickets]

I don't care what he calls it. I love that song.

loloololllll. chances are, if he doesn't know what it is, it most likely mirrors his idiocy.

[Kage]

Well given that technical death metal is crap and he called it that, he must have some idea.

[Huber]

loloololllll. chances are, if he doesn't know what it is, it most likely mirrors his idiocy.
You're no one to be talking about idiocy.


Love it, or hate it


Uh, I believe I said love it. I'm confused.

[Drunken Viking]

Well given that technical death metal is crap and he called it that, he must have some idea.
:mad: I hate you.




PS: I don't really hate you. <3

Uh, I believe I said love it. I'm confused.
It was a joke, obviously a pretty bad one.

[Drunken Viking]

What happened to his new found respect?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

What happened to his new found respect?

:lol::lol::lol: I was JUST thinking the exact same thing.

Quoted for extreme humour:

Actually he's quite right.
/finds new found respect for Kage
Well given that technical death metal is crap and he called it that, he must have some idea.
lol. you idiot. you're the guy who turns in literal noise each month and calls it music!

tech death > your life

Sweet ****.

[Kage]

Tech death is funny in its extreme stupidity.

[Drunken Viking]

Tech death is funny in its extreme stupidity.
Now I really do hate you. :doublemad: </3

[Kage]

Damn, I guess I blew it.

Just being honest.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Mitch! You're terrible @ internetz funnys

Funny? I was just laughing at this convo. :chug:

[The Persian]

lol its funny cause you hella look deep into your dislike of the band. if you don't like them, **** it don't listen. Stop whining about what they should change, hoe.

[Drunken Viking]

Damn, I guess I blew it.

Just being honest.
Ok you called my bluff. :doublenotmad: <3 :)

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

ehh. i know what we're missing we need someone to try to troll this thread! mitch, you ever tried to troll? or mayb kage since he's hated anyways

d00d...

(you're trolling right now feg)

4srsyo

[Perhaps Crickets]

d00d...

(you're trolling right now feg)

4srsyo

nope. i'm actually posting on subject and debating. read my critic of the said band! i was actually construvtive and ojbective yo!

ps, im not troling :mad:

you are

well and im getting trolled :p

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

okok. u did but it is coz ur bored init. i mean shait. *shrugs*

[Turkish]

lol. k. You didn't attend grammar lesson did you?

*their fan base


lol. k, it's "They're" ripping off Metallica. (Capital M for Metallica)


Did you mean, I think they are/they're?


I'm sure you do...


k. lol. this means you don't have the right to speak about anything.



*their fans

I think they are greedy, talentless punks trying to get rich.
/fact

oh and use teh almighty capital "I" next post. ty sir

lol @ this post.

Honestly, their new ablum is mediocre at best. I liked their previous material, but not digging the new album aside from a couple of songs. I honestly gave it like 5 or 6 run throughs before I came to a final judgement of the album, but it just seems a bit sloppy and the lyrics are atrocious. I mean cmon "break every bone in your face if you mess with my life" how lame is that?

[adamstartin]

The world cant tear us apart is possibly one of the worst songs i have ever heard. And anthem is one of the most childish song i have ever heard. I love enter the dragon though. And the death metal song haha.

[Huber]

Just got back from the Trivium show tonight. They played a good setlist including a lot of covers. Breakin' the Law, Blink 182's Damnit, The Trooper, Seek and Destroy, and Master of puppets. Breakin' the Law vocal duties were handled by the Protest the Hero vocalist. It rocked. They sounded good.

The opening bands were all really impressive too.

[Turkish]

Blink 182's Damnit

Definitely the most metal song out of all of them.

[Kage]

They were just displaying their wide range of influences.

[Forlorn Hope]

So I had been listening to The Crusade for awhile...Yea, I like it a lot. Then I put in Ascendency today and I completely forgot how good that album was. Much better by comparison to The Crusade.

[Drunken Viking]

Just got back from the Trivium show tonight. They played a good setlist including a lot of covers. Breakin' the Law, Blink 182's Damnit, The Trooper, Seek and Destroy, and Master of puppets. Breakin' the Law vocal duties were handled by the Protest the Hero vocalist. It rocked. They sounded good.

The opening bands were all really impressive too.

Sounds awesome man, but I thought that PTH's singer was denied entry to the states or something for having like an eigth of pot.

[Huber]

Sounds awesome man, but I thought that PTH's singer was denied entry to the states or something for having like an eigth of pot.

Naw man, that was there guitar player.

[alytee123]

The world cant tear us apart is possibly one of the worst songs i have ever heard. And anthem is one of the most childish song i have ever heard. I love enter the dragon though. And the death metal song haha.

Death metal song? Which one do you mean?

[benfan]

lol. k. You didn't attend grammar lesson did you?

*their fan base


lol. k, it's "They're" ripping off Metallica. (Capital M for Metallica)


Did you mean, I think they are/they're?


I'm sure you do...


k. lol. this means you don't have the right to speak about anything.



*their fans

I think they are greedy, talentless punks trying to get rich.
/fact

oh and use teh almighty capital "I" next post. ty sir



hahaha i just logged in for the first time in a few days.
im sorry great master of grammer and literacy.

seriously, you need to re-think the whole living thing. retard.
ive only been on 10 minutes and found youve managed to piss off half the board.

[Grumma]

Death metal song? Which one do you mean?

I presume they mean Contempt Breed Contamination

[SixStringKing]

I presume they mean Contempt Breed Contamination

nahh probably To The Rats. And the reason for alot of their lyrics to be shytty is because paolaloalaolaoal or what ever the F*** is name is *bassest* wrote a couple of the songs. But there are subtle intricacies and notes in the guitar playing that makes the songs sound sloppy, but in no way does the crusade deserve the bashing that it is getting on this board. The talent it takes to write a song as anyone on the album is rediculous. And for them being as young as they are.. Plus in comparison to ascendancy there is a huge difference yes... but ascendancy is worse than the crusade talent wise.. Ascendancy uses rediculous amounts of octave chords for everytghing... it can get tideous if they are in every song...
and as to the guy who said this world cant tear us apart is the worst song that he has ever heard.. what do you base your oppinion on? Talent? because by using the word WORSE you are implying that you think oit took no talent to write the song and it was just sloppily thrown together.. in which case you are not correct in the slightest, and you shall forever be looked down upon as a durnbass

[SixStringKing]

at no point in my statement did i ever intend to insult someone.. except for saying that i will see them as a dumbass.. now, excuse me for not using proper grammar in an online forum.. i didnt think it was a necessity.
Argument:
Who are you to say that the band is terrible... please let me hear some of your music.

[Txus]

They ARE terrible.

[SixStringKing]

And who are you?

[Txus]

Mike, Hai :wave:

[Eliminator]

hai mike!

[adamstartin]

and as to the guy who said this world cant tear us apart is the worst song that he has ever heard.. what do you base your oppinion on? Talent? because by using the word WORSE you are implying that you think oit took no talent to write the song and it was just sloppily thrown together.. in which case you are not correct in the slightest, and you shall forever be looked down upon as a durnbass That song is awful compared to the rest of the songs on the album. It is a shameless filler/radio friendly song. Even Matt said it was 'the crusade's dying in your arms.' Yes, i would go as far to say it didnt take talent to write that song, the talent those guys have dont justify that song. Its very lazy. And im a dumbass for having an opinion? Its one of the worst songs IVE heard, i didnt state it as a fact. EDIT: btw, the 'death metal' song is contamination breeds contempt, or whatever. And no, it isnt death metal.

[SixStringKing]

ACTUALLY stating that it is the worst song youve ever heard is a fact not oppinion. and you have no basis for your argument.. your merely stating that you do not like the song.. not that it is the worst song ever.. tell me please.. is "Dwarf Invasion" by reggie and the full effect a better song?

[Kage]

ACTUALLY stating that it is the worst song youve ever heard is a fact not oppinion.

Oh, come off it. Music is purely subjective anyway, so stop getting offended and just understand that it is assumed that someone is giving an opinion.

[SixStringKing]

well.. music is not purely subjective at all....i mean yes ones TASTE in music can vary dramatically.. but the fact of the matter is that Trivium im sure stands as a much more talented band than im sure most of the bands that you have heard.. so all in all music is not purely subjective noob.....

[Drunken Viking]

I don't think SSK is getting what "Music is subjective" means.

[Kage]

but the fact of the matter is that Trivium im sure stands as a much more talented band than im sure most of the bands that you have heard
:lol: :lol:

...


:lol:

Ignorance ITT.

[SixStringKing]

being correct is not ignorance

[Kage]

You're way off though.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

If you don't like Trivum, why don't you just **** the hell off out of the thread? :rolleyes:

[Kage]

What I've said has nothing to do with Trivium really, I just happened to notice SixStringKing spouting off and I tried to let him know that music is subjective.

Then he said something completely illogical about Trivium.

[Sleepy]

What I've said has nothing to do with Trivium really, I just happened to notice SixStringKing spouting off and I tried to let him know that music is subjective.

Then he said something completely illogical about Trivium.

Noob bashes FTW.

Though that thing about Trivium being more talented than what Kage listens to (:lol:) was completely ignorant and arrogant, it's probably not the guy's own fault that he hasn't heard anything better.

[Kage]

Noob bashes FTW.

Though that thing about Trivium being more talented than what Kage listens to (:lol:) was completely ignorant and arrogant, it's probably not the guy's own fault that he hasn't heard anything better.
You're probably right.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

What I've said has nothing to do with Trivium really, I just happened to notice SixStringKing spouting off and I tried to let him know that music is subjective.

Then he said something completely illogical about Trivium.

Just to make it clear, my comment wasn't aimed at you. But it's really pointless if people just post just to try and stir stuff up because they don't like this bands music.

[Sleepy]

Just to make it clear, my comment wasn't aimed at you. But it's really pointless if people just post just to try and stir stuff up because they don't like this bands music.

There's a big difference between 'stirring stuff up' and stating an opinion.

[SixStringKing]

okay.. i did not say that the bands kage listens to were bad.. i said the bands he has HEARD we have all heard green day am i wrong?
So what im arguing is that THIS WORLD CANT TEAR US APART took more talent to write than american idiot... because someone said it was the worst song ever.. and Kage. music is not COMPLETELY subjective... there are personal elements to music, but also technical.. technicalities are far from subjective

[Drunken Viking]

Come on is this a joke account? You can't seriously think this.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

There's a big difference between 'stirring stuff up' and stating an opinion.

Obviously, but I haven't read all this crap so I don't know what started it, but it's the only things that ever happens in here and it's annoying as hell.

[Grumma]

Im sure even the 'bashers' that think Trivium cant play to save themselves would deep down know that theyre still better then anything that comes onto the radio except for perhaps old Zep songs.

It's a credit to them for having such a large metal following yet still be able to make mainstream radio

[Kage]

Who cares if they're better than what comes out on the radio?

[Grumma]

Everyone that listens to them . . .

Duh

[Kage]

My point is, saying it's better than what comes out on the radio isn't saying much at all.

[Txus]

A bunch of stuff that comes in the radio is much better than Trivium btw.

[Grumma]

My point is, saying it's better than what comes out on the radio isn't saying much at all.

But its still saying something ;)

[VomitStainedCretin]

Im sure even the 'bashers' that think Trivium cant play to save themselves would deep down know that theyre still better then anything that comes onto the radio except for perhaps old Zep songs.

It's a credit to them for having such a large metal following yet still be able to make mainstream radio

The best metal bands have a small elite group of followers and dont get on the radio, preferring to personally produce and distribute their music from their base in the frozen forests of Scandanavia/insert other country with freezing weather and big metal scene. And they fashion their instruments from oak trees, eagle's guts and bison skin. :cool:

[SixStringKing]

way to stereotype vomit.

[alytee123]

Rofl at the idea that Contempt Breeds Contamination being a 'death metal' tune. Good song, but not death metal.

[VomitStainedCretin]

way to stereotype vomit.

I hope you realise I wasnt being serious.

[SixStringKing]

hope you realise I wasnt being serious.
i hope you realise that neither was I..

[Forlorn Hope]

Hmm...I quite like the songs that weren't included on The Crusade, but were on the Anthem Single. (Broken One and Vengeance). Except the solos, they have that ignorant "me like to play fast!" vibe to them.

[SixStringKing]

yeah i love the broken one.. havent heard vengeance... you wanna send me it? :)

[Insipid2000]

Havent heard the Crusade..... then again do I want to? :confused: :lol:

[The Cynic]

Havent heard the Crusade..... then again do I want to? :confused: :lol:

Meh. Solo's are fun to play but other than that you're not missing out on much. And I was a huge fan before.

[Forlorn Hope]

yeah i love the broken one.. havent heard vengeance... you wanna send me it? :)

Gimme your email and I'll send it to you. :thumb:

[SixStringKing]

MlKES_EMAIL@hotmail.com
The I in Mikes is an L
ill owe ya one if you need anything in the future.
But Insipid, though the crusade has gotten ripped to shreds on the forums its definately worth the 13 bucks to pick up.. i love it, and tho its not like the old trivium its a great listen

[Phil]

I listened to it once which is probably one too many times. I admit there were a few good songs but nothing which made me want to go out and get it. The title track wasn't that great, it was just a jumble of stuff put together I think. The lyrics in some songs were quite good but some of them were just too cheesy or plain bad.

[Trivium]

Hmm...I quite like the songs that weren't included on The Crusade, but were on the Anthem Single. (Broken One and Vengeance). Except the solos, they have that ignorant "me like to play fast!" vibe to them.

I completely agree, its just like WOAHH look what I can do, uncreative pentatonic scale riding

[The Persian]

It's a good CD man... I wish it had a little more brutal parts to it but... their direction still sounds pretty good, it's a solid CD

[Wigga Stole My Bike]

I was a big fan of Ascendancy, but the Crusade is lacking I felt, vocally anyway, it's nice to get away from the regular Heafy voice, but I don't think he can pull off normal singing for an entire album.

Though I do think they are extremely talented musician wise, and have some amazing guitar solos.

[adamstartin]

ACTUALLY stating that it is the worst song youve ever heard is a fact not oppinion. So its fact then? Coz its gotta be fact or opinion.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I'm downloading the soundboard recording of Trivium's performance at Download Festival 2006. Apparantly it was bad so I'll be able to hear how it is.

[VomitStainedCretin]

I'm downloading the soundboard recording of Trivium's performance at Download Festival 2006. Apparantly it was bad so I'll be able to hear how it is.

They sounded OK when I was there, but when I heard the live recording on Kerrang! TV (e.g. one of the sh1ttiest music channels in existence 95% of the time) it was pretty abbysmal.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Yeah I was there too but I didn't really pay much attention to how well they played, I just tried to have fun.

And I agree with Kerrang sucking baws. I used to like it but now I listen to much more aggressive music and that's all like nu-metal and pop punk.

I downloaded a live video of them at Rock AM Ring too and that's not too bad. You can definitely hear them all ****ing up quite alot though.

[VomitStainedCretin]

What really annoys me about Kerrang! TV is that they seem to be 5-10 years behind everyone else, i.e. they play hardly any new stuff and if they do its something like Fag Out Boy. And the fact, as you mentioned, they just play sh1tty pop-punk and Nu-Metal.

[alytee123]

Kerrang's everday playlist consists of:

Green Day- American Idiot
Tenacious D- Tribute
Metallica- One
KoRn- Freak On A Leash

and pop punk....that is it.

Is anyone here gonna be heading to the Trivium European tour? I'l hopefully be sorting out my Hammersmith ticket after christmas when I have some cash.

[Grumma]

Hmm...I quite like the songs that weren't included on The Crusade, but were on the Anthem Single. (Broken One and Vengeance). Except the solos, they have that ignorant "me like to play fast!" vibe to them.

I really didnt think that at all . ..

To me the solos couldnt fit the music any better. Theres the first one in Detonation which is pretty rubbish but other than that I quite like their use of scales.
Mind you, theyre never gonna rival DragonForce :cool:

[playguitar]

I really didnt think that at all . ..

To me the solos couldnt fit the music any better. Theres the first one in Detonation which is pretty rubbish but other than that I quite like their use of scales.
Mind you, theyre never gonna rival DragonForce:cool:

Oh, that's why.

[Forlorn Hope]

I really didnt think that at all . ..

To me the solos couldnt fit the music any better. Theres the first one in Detonation which is pretty rubbish but other than that I quite like their use of scales.
Mind you, theyre never gonna rival DragonForce :cool:

I meant just those two songs (Broken One and Vengeance) The other solos on the actual album fit pretty well, and sounded ok. Depending on the song.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I really, really like Trivium, but The Crusade was the most dissappointing album of 2006, and not just because of the vocals. What the hell happened to the riffing and the solos? All the guitar work went to sh*t.....

I think the poorness of the live performance finally washed over onto record...

[Thasis]

Well I had that initial opinion when I first listened to it... and then I REALY listened to it. Not only did it grow on me vocally (which I thought would never come) but it grew on me musically. It's actualy quite amazing what they accomplished.

Also the lyrics were wayyy better on the newer album. Still only half-decent, but better then when Matt Heafy wrote ALL of them. Don't get me wrong Matt Heafy is great, just not the greatest lyrics writer.

[playguitar]

Well I had that initial opinion when I first listened to it... and then I REALY listened to it. Not only did it grow on me vocally (which I thought would never come) but it grew on me musically. It's actualy quite amazing what they accomplished.

Also the lyrics were wayyy better on the newer album. Still only half-decent, but better then when Matt Heafy wrote ALL of them. Don't get me wrong Matt Heafy is great, just not the greatest lyrics writer.

I think the lyrics are terrible, whatever happened to suggestive language?

[Perhaps Crickets]

I think the lyrics are terrible, whatever happened to suggestive language?

The lyrics were and still are just ****ing wretched.

Matt should have paid attention in English!!! Instead, he practiced sucking at the guitar.

[playguitar]

The lyrics were and still are just ****ing wretched.

Matt should have paid attention in English!!! Instead, he practiced sucking at the guitar.

What are you talking about, arpeggios and pentatonic wankage sound good all the time. You kids and your well thought out meaningful solos...pppbbbbfff. Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, yea!

[Perhaps Crickets]

What are you talking about, arpeggios and pentatonic wankage sound good all the time. You kids and your well thought out meaningful solos...pppbbbbfff. Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, yea!

You sir, are a ****ing idiot. :thumb:

They don't sound good if the guitarist can't use them well!!! Or even play his damn guitar without messing up countless times live!!(seen 'em)

Fitting the music could be harmonic minor wank in Necrophagist or an actually emotion-filled jazz lick.

[Forlorn Hope]

What are you talking about, arpeggios and pentatonic wankage sound good all the time. You kids and your well thought out meaningful solos...pppbbbbfff. Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, yea!

I can actually see the sarcasm leaking out of my computer screen.

[playguitar]

You sir, are a ****ing idiot. :thumb:

They don't sound good if the guitarist can't use them well!!! Or even play his damn guitar without messing up countless times live!!(seen 'em)

Fitting the music could be harmonic minor wank in Necrophagist or an actually emotion-filled jazz lick.

You sir, are a ****ing idiot. Read the post above.

[adamstartin]

lol @ break every bone in your FACE!!!

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Well at least it's not penis.

[badtaste]

I'm not a Trivium fan but if anyone's interested, I believe Trivium will be guest hosting Rage on March 3rd. Rage is a program that shows music videos. Check out www.abc.net.au/rage for more details.

[Grumma]

W3RD :cool:

Should be alright. Though undoubtedly it'll be at like 3 in the morning lol