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JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 04:39 AM

I don't think it was a peak time for the band, but it definitely wasn't a bad time live like some people think. I think the biggest difference is the chemistry between the instrumentalists. I mean, Kenny Jones is good, but just look at how Moon, Entwistle, and Townshend gelled together, especially during improvised instrumentals. I don't think anybody could recreate that kind of thing that they had around '69-'70, but they were always great live.
yes, Moon, Entwistle and Townshend certainly defined the power trio. but little was lost onstage IMO with Jones behind the kit in the '79-81 years. the Who had already turned a corner so far as performance is concerned from the early years and the Tommy/Leeds era. Thier performances from Whos Next on were somewhat different and from Quadrophenia on they gave more conventional performances. IMHO the '79-81 live Who were a peak performing band. peak of the '70's. with or without Moon. They were simply right on and dead solid. and Roger was perhaps at his best ever.

I've enver liked Jones style of drumming. he had this big *** drumset, but never used it. I saw him do a two bar fill that was just 16th notes on the snare, no accents or nothing, just straight 16th notes on the snare for two bars. I thought that was really lame.
Jones used all of his kit. just not like Moon. certainly he was a much more straight up and straight forward drummer. but he got the job done well. could of been looser, but meh....
Alright, just sent it out again. All should be well now.

: D
great. got it of course.
Right now I'm listening the the Royal Albert Hall show on my new laptop speakers (even though they were cheap, I got ones with a sub just for Entwistle). I've always thought they did a good job at this show, but listening through their are some moments where the band gets back to a little bit of the magic from Leeds. Sure it's not the same, but for what it is they have some real great spots on RAH. John is in such fine form the whole way through, it's just great to listen to.
yeah, RAH is great. that is the Who. John, Roger, Pete, Bundrick, Starkey. good group. the additional four songs they added after Johns death (I Don't Even Know Myself, Young Man Blues, etc) is fantastic.
speaking on John, does anybody notice how his singing really went downhill? I always thought he was a great singer (better then Pete, IMO) with a great range. But I'm listening to this '79 concert, and I notice some strain (some, but its still there). Flash forward to their late 90s/early 00s Who and solo Entwistle, and he's lost ALOT, far far more then Pete or Roger. In fact, he just stopped singing harmonies period, only singing for My Wife (which he really sounds strained).
yeah. Entwistle's voice was pretty much shot by the return of the Who at the turn of the decade. my guess is too many cigarettes, too much booze, and a bit much coke.

Seafroggys

08-25-2006, 01:16 PM

i've just realized there's the song "I've Had Enough" and "Had Enough"....totally crazy!

Ephemeral

08-25-2006, 02:37 PM

Indeed.

I'm still really excited to see them.

: D

JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 07:23 PM

I'm listening to this Chicago bootleg right now. Just got the third part downloaded and that's what I was waiting for, as I wanted to hear it beginning to end. Remarkable. Really. I like this a lot. Got the sound adjustments optimized. Very nice.

Thanks once again, Jeff....

Ephemeral

08-25-2006, 07:34 PM

Yeah, it's not the best sounding bootleg in the world, but it is a very good show.

And you're welcome.

StrawberryFieldsForever

08-25-2006, 10:17 PM

I'm goin to see the mother****in who October 3rd bitches!!!

Too bad two of 'em are dead...

But still...I'll be able to carry around a ticket stub taht shows that I saw one of Rock and Roll's legends.

JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 11:21 PM

^yes. and they are great still. enjoy it. don't worry about missing John. have a great time and check back in to tell us how it was....

EDIT: that didn't last long, Jeff :(

Street_Fighting_Man

08-25-2006, 11:28 PM

fwqhgads ²

08-25-2006, 11:32 PM

refl

I'll survive. It's only a day this time.

: D

JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 11:34 PM

Has anybody here heard the Amsterdam 1969 bootleg? It's an amazing show, with one of the earliest, if not the earliest, performance of Tommy live. There's a lot of energy in the show. Great quality, too.
haven't heard it, though i think i have seen it floating around torrent sites.
refl

I'll survive. It's only a day this time.

: D
oic. good news. "The Man" is a son of a bitch lol

fwqhgads ²

08-25-2006, 11:35 PM

I only made a post about bruce wilkins

=(

JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 11:40 PM

:bruce: in da Who thread :eek:

fwqhgads ²

08-25-2006, 11:41 PM

:clint:

JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 11:42 PM

:devito: rocks to the Who. true story.....

/avoids ban by staying on topic :)

fwqhgads ²

08-25-2006, 11:44 PM

they can't get us in our stronghold...

>_>

JohnXDoe

08-25-2006, 11:56 PM

10,000TH POST!

:smoke: :chug: :smoke: :chug:

Thank you to The Who Thread. My home on MX. To Lunch, a thousand thank you's for keeping me coming back with this great thread. Robo, Seafroggys, Pink Freud, Jeff, Dragon Prince, PigontheWing, Zabbit82, Wanderer, and all the rest of you Who fanatics that make this thread a pleasure to visit and post in. Much goodness to all of you. Lunch, good luck in college and thanks for hanging in there with this thread. Everyone is so great here. I am truly grateful on the internets.

Useless Rep For Everyone lolz

Great time, guys. Thanks once again for being great posters and e friends. And most of all, great Who fans. LONG LIVE ROCK!

fwqhgads ²

08-25-2006, 11:58 PM

yay

Seafroggys

08-26-2006, 01:20 AM

yay! great excitement.

I'd love to get hold of Tommy bootlegs. Damn Pete and his burning!

Dragon_Prince

08-26-2006, 04:59 AM

Out here in the threads
JXD posts for his needs

pam pam pam

GO you ;) :P

fwqhgads ²

08-26-2006, 04:09 PM

so..

zabbit82

08-26-2006, 09:07 PM

Long live rock indeed. I havent been here in weeks and the first thing I see is a congrats message about the 10000th post in here.

Sweet dudes. Sweet.

Ephemeral

08-26-2006, 11:22 PM

unbanned yay

JohnXDoe

08-27-2006, 06:43 AM

^lol

hey everyone. thought this would interest many of us. i for one will be picking it up. sounds really nice.

*wipes tear*

http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=376&zone=pr

check out the Amazon link for much more details and a couple of consumer opinions.

RIP, John. you dumb coke sniffing jerk...

/still mad at him :smash:

Lunch

08-27-2006, 12:29 PM

Yea I'll get that when I have the chance/money also, thanks for letting us know about that.

I can't say enough good things about Entwistle, honestly. I don't know how anyone could be considered a better rock bassist.

RNR

08-27-2006, 02:38 PM

I never really pay attention to him. Or the drumming for that matter. Am I weird?

Lunch

08-27-2006, 02:46 PM

Yea, it makes me wonder why you listen to the Who.

Ephemeral

08-27-2006, 03:26 PM

:' (

poor John.

RNR

08-28-2006, 01:06 AM

Yea, it makes me wonder why you listen to the Who.

Good music, I guess. Bass and drums don't make it good although they are good.

I'm The Face

08-28-2006, 01:16 AM

*sniff* John.... too bad your greatest song is on a Who compilation most have never heard of.

I'm talking about "When I Was A Boy" on Who's Missing btw ;)

fwqhgads ²

08-29-2006, 07:36 PM

Welcome to the forums, and more specifically, the Who thread. :cool:

Sunny Afternoon

08-29-2006, 10:18 PM

Good music, I guess. Bass and drums don't make it good although they are good.

Live at Leeds
Wall of sound
Moon fills on Heaven and Hell
Nuff said.

Lunch

08-29-2006, 10:24 PM

Entwistle and Moon are a wall through that whole album.

Seafroggys

08-30-2006, 01:22 AM

*sniff* John.... too bad your greatest song is on a Who compilation most have never heard of.

I'm talking about "When I Was A Boy" on Who's Missing btw ;)

hmmm, I think John's greatest song is also one that very few people have heard of (unless they have Live at Leeds), which is Heaven and Hell.

I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more :D

I'm The Face

08-30-2006, 09:41 AM

hmmm, I think John's greatest song is also one that very few people have heard of (unless they have Live at Leeds), which is Heaven and Hell.

I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more :D

HaH is also available on Who's Missing as a studio version, as well as Live at the Isle of Wight. Of course, the Live At Leeds version stomps all over the other two in terms of production, sound, and energy. I absolutely love the 15 seconds or so of crowd, silence, the band setting up, and then suddenly ripping into HaH. The intro to Isle of Wight is just as cool... "a nice rock n' roll band, from Shephard's Bush London, The 'Oo!"... bam, Heaven and Hell. :thumb: Too bad the production of that album sucks arse - I rarely listen to it :(

rockinbass17

08-30-2006, 12:17 PM

I don't know why "Heaven and Hell" was never put on a studio album. It's definatly among the top three tracks on LaL. My favorite part is when Roger begins his singing during the jam in the middle.

robo2448

08-30-2006, 12:29 PM

Maybe they just thought they could never replicate the live power of it in the studio. And they wouldn't have been able to.

JohnXDoe

08-30-2006, 05:37 PM

If you guys really want to hear some good John stuff played with his own band (he plays his Who stuff, too) get Rhapsody Music Player. It's free for 14 Days so if you don't want to pay just cancel. But to give John a listen they have:

Who's The Bass Player?: The Ox Anthology
King Bisquit Flower Hour Archive Series: John Entwistle Greatest Hits Live
John Entwistle: Left For Live Deluxe

The latter two are stream only, so you can't even buy those anymore. All are fantastic recordings.

Lunch

08-30-2006, 06:12 PM

I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more :D

Same exact thing with me. John is just so cool.

Maybe they just thought they could never replicate the live power of it in the studio. And they wouldn't have been able to.

Yea, Heaven and Hell relied so much on the energy of the band live, it wouldn't translate well to the studio. The Who's Missing version is unimpressive, and although John's anthology is very good, his solo version doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version either.

I'm The Face

08-30-2006, 06:31 PM

I love John, but never got into his solo material. Rigor Mortis was "OK". Not as bad as Keith Moon's solo album, and certainly not as bad as anything Daltrey has done! Only Pete's solo work has stood up to anything the Who has done. Still missing a lot of Pete's albums though...

Who Came First - classic in every way
Rough Mix - superb! Love Ronnie's Lane's stuff.
Empty Glass - cheesy at parts, overall quite excellent
Chinese Eyes - different, but still quite good. Slit Skirts is ace.
White City - OK... 2 good songs, a lot of filler. Face the Face blows.
Psychoderelict - all around unimpressive, but the non-narrative version is listenable but forgetable.
Lifehouse Chronicles - I prefer my homemade Lifehouse mix, the way the Who should have done it.

Lunch

08-30-2006, 06:57 PM

John has some good stuff, like My Size.

Seafroggys

08-30-2006, 09:04 PM

i love the song Horror Rock. Now that was some cool John solo work! :thumb:

fwqhgads ²

08-30-2006, 09:38 PM

I've always loved "Boris The Spider" because of the bass.

rockinbass17

08-30-2006, 10:21 PM

That's such a fun song. I love singing along to the "creepy-crawly" part.

John made some good contributions to The Who's repitoire. "Trick of the Light" is one often overlooked.

wanderer

08-31-2006, 02:55 AM

.
Psychoderelict - all around unimpressive, but the non-narrative version is listenable but forgetable.

Couldn't be more untrue... amazing tunes on that record, just get 1993 Mayfair Hotel show where he plays songs with just acoustic guitar. Songs are truely brilliant. In fact, you really realise how great songs they are everytime Pete plays them as solo acoustic versions.

fwqhgads ²

08-31-2006, 01:25 PM

That's such a fun song. I love singing along to the "creepy-crawly" part.
It was my favorite song of their's when I was little.

I've always loved "Pictures Of Lilly" as well.

Man, they made so much good music. It blows me away all the time.

see spot run

08-31-2006, 02:07 PM

Damn, that was really long. But very good. The Who is a great band, hands, frikkin, down.

fwqhgads ²

08-31-2006, 02:53 PM

It's quite interesting seeing all of these newer members come into this thread all at once. :p

Welcome to the forums, and thread. :)

Sunny Afternoon

08-31-2006, 02:57 PM

Cool, man.

Lunch

08-31-2006, 03:19 PM

I liked A Quick One and Sell Out a lot when I was younger. And of course Tommy.

JohnXDoe

08-31-2006, 04:42 PM

I think John is my favorite member, actually. I'm a drummer, and Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, so you would think using basic logic that he would be my favoirte of the Who. Not true. I like John more.
It's always been Pete for me. No matter what. He is just so awesome as a songwriter, guitar player, and performer. I just can't say enough about the old guy.
I love John, but never got into his solo material. Rigor Mortis was "OK". Not as bad as Keith Moon's solo album, and certainly not as bad as anything Daltrey has done! Only Pete's solo work has stood up to anything the Who has done. Still missing a lot of Pete's albums though...

Who Came First - classic in every way
Rough Mix - superb! Love Ronnie's Lane's stuff.
Empty Glass - cheesy at parts, overall quite excellent
Chinese Eyes - different, but still quite good. Slit Skirts is ace.
White City - OK... 2 good songs, a lot of filler. Face the Face blows.
Psychoderelict - all around unimpressive, but the non-narrative version is listenable but forgetable.
Lifehouse Chronicles - I prefer my homemade Lifehouse mix, the way the Who should have done it.
I like all this stuff. I don't see where Empty Glass was cheesy, though. Keep On Working, yeah. A bit eccentric. I am an animal, the same. But not as much. And I like the big musical flourishes he put in that. Chinese Eyes is one of my fave albums ever. A real Townshend classic, IMO. I love everything about that album. White City. Eh, a bit stuck in the eighties. But some great songs on there nonetheless. Hiding Out and Brilliant Blues come to mind. White City Fighting, Second Hand Love. Psychoderelict, meh. Pete at his most pretentious. Except for The Iron Man, perhaps. But as user Wanderer said the songs stripped bare are much better.
That's such a fun song. I love singing along to the "creepy-crawly" part.

John made some good contributions to The Who's repitoire. "Trick of the Light" is one often overlooked.
Trick Of The Light is awesome. And his Face Dances and Its Hard contributions were solid as well. I've always seen The Quiet One as his theme song.
Couldn't be more untrue... amazing tunes on that record, just get 1993 Mayfair Hotel show where he plays songs with just acoustic guitar. Songs are truely brilliant. In fact, you really realise how great songs they are everytime Pete plays them as solo acoustic versions.
Yes. Nice to see you wanderer. That mp3 you sent of that performance is tremendous :). And I guess you can agree with most of us here that Wire And Glass is a great success...
It's quite interesting seeing all of these newer members come into this thread all at once. Welcome to the forums, and thread.
Nice work getting the new people in and feeling welcome, Jeff :)

EDIT: omg for crimes! :eek:

fwqhgads ²

08-31-2006, 04:47 PM

^^ 123 with Pete.

He's been my favorite for forever as well.

I get unbanned later tonight. =]

I'm going to try to be good.

RNR

09-01-2006, 12:38 PM

My favorite member's Rodger. I mean, cmon! It's Rodger. He's like teh singer.

Lunch

09-01-2006, 12:45 PM

And he can beat the other members up. Except for John, who would just deflect him by not caring.

RNR

09-01-2006, 12:48 PM

That does seem to be what he does best. In the early concerts, Pete and Keith are smashing the hell out of the entire stage, Rodger's fixing his hair and John's cowering in the corner protecting his bass.

Ah, simpler times.

Ephemeral

09-01-2006, 02:31 PM

And he can beat the other members up. Except for John, who would just deflect him by not caring.
refl

:upset:

Ephemeral

09-01-2006, 02:32 PM

I always found it hilarious when they were all "crashing" and you could just hear through the piercing feedback, and explosions, a bass line playing on, and on..

JohnXDoe

09-01-2006, 08:00 PM

And he can beat the other members up. Except for John, who would just deflect him by not caring.
but pete would crack him over the head with his guitar sometimes. that has got to be smarts :(

Lunch

09-01-2006, 08:02 PM

And then he got knocked out and sent to the hospital with minor amnesia. Sounds like PWNED to me.

Sunny Afternoon

09-01-2006, 10:13 PM

One time Keith's cymbal hit Pete on the leg and Pete, in turn, gave Keith a knock on the head with his guitar.

That was when Keith and John left the band for a week and made plans to create their own supergroup, with the name Lead Zeppelin, coined by John.

But they rejoined the Who shortly after that, and a smarmy manager took the name to guitarist Jimmy Page.

And the rest, they say, is history.

RNR

09-01-2006, 10:21 PM

When I go see them, i'm going to ask Pete for a guitar and if he refuses, i'll just smash one of his guitars. There's a risk that i'll get arrested but it's worth it. All of that guitar smashing makes me cry.

6stringed

09-01-2006, 10:50 PM

knox

09-01-2006, 11:09 PM

Anyone have links to videos of The Who performing live when they went crazy on stage and started breaking stuff?

zabbit82

09-01-2006, 11:14 PM

I'm sure if you go onto Youtube and search for it, you'll find it.

Sunny Afternoon: Nice avatar man :thumb:

Ephemeral

09-01-2006, 11:37 PM

There is some stuff on Youtube, yeah

6stringed

09-01-2006, 11:40 PM

there's allways stuff on youtube.

Ephemeral

09-01-2006, 11:41 PM

123

Lunch

09-02-2006, 01:58 AM

Anyone have links to videos of The Who performing live when they went crazy on stage and started breaking stuff?

You owe it to yourself to just watch the Kids Are Alright Dvd, they have a nice montage of various destruction sequences after the My Generation from the Monterey Pop Festival.

Seafroggys

09-02-2006, 02:11 AM

TKAA was what really made me a Who fanatic. I had listened to my dad's records of Who's Next and Who Are You, but wasn't altogether impressed (I liked Who Are You, Won't Get Fooled Again, Behind Blue Eyes, etc. but that was it). I got them on CD for myself (again, don't ask me why). Then a year later we rented the 30 Years of Max RnB video, which was my first look at live Who. I was throughorly impressed. Heaven and Hell really blew my mind (but I didn't listen to it again for another 6 months or so), as well as the other songs. Too much Kenney Jones, though, wasn't impressed much with him (still ain't, probably the worst drummer the Who has had).

Then about 2-3 weeks later we got TKAA DVD from the library. When I heard "See Me, Feel Me" from Woodstock, it sold me (even though I had seen that same exact song from the Woodstock movie, but it was back in Middle School and none of that music really impressed me much. Too much of a Beatles-only fanatic back then). As if that wasn't enough, the epic slow mo slide of WGFA made me orgasm.

Since then, the Who have really risen far and high.

rockinbass17

09-02-2006, 01:42 PM

I became a Who fanatic pretty quickly- I was looking through the garage and found every studio Who album from 1966-1978, as well as It's Hard and a few compilations, and a record player. It was like sudden overflowing of good music.

zabbit82

09-02-2006, 06:41 PM

Ephemeral

09-03-2006, 12:08 AM

One thing that pissed me off about their Woodstock performance is how Daltry kept swinging the mic. It's all he did the entire time, and always in the same way.

grr

JohnXDoe

09-03-2006, 12:23 AM

My dad is and was a huge Who fan, so I pretty much grew up on them at a very early age. He'd always play Who's Next and Who Are You quite frequently way back when. It wasnt until about 4 years ago when I started getting serious with music and became a big fan of the Who (not as big as Lunch or JXD, of course)
I became interested after hearing Odds And Sods. Kind of a strange compilation, that one. Some quirky songs on there as they are known to do sometimes. I thought "WTF. These can't be the Baba 'O Riley guys". Now I'm A Farmer ftl. But it kept me interested and my mom had Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy (damn sexy title) and I liked it. Then I saw TKAA at a local theater that was showing that and The Song Remains The Same for some reason. Some sort of cheap revival. At 11 years old the Zep film just blew. And WTF with that guy with the violin bow? shi...made my ears bleed.

But then TKAA came on and that was it. These guys were nuts and I loved it. Smashing things, windmills, the sound, the noise, the insanity of it all. And the music was just this awesome sound. I was overwhelmed. I sat there falling in love and I kind of knew it. I left the theater trying to leap like Townshend and never looked back :)
One thing that pissed me off about their Woodstock performance is how Daltry kept swinging the mic. It's all he did the entire time, and always in the same way.

grr
i never liked Daltreys posing back then. i don't know if it was the "hippie" thing of the day or his "Tommy" image he was trying to maintain, but it was ill suited for The Who. and the fringe and boots and bobbing and weaving of that head of hair on him. i just want to slap him. i know he's the front man and what not, but gimme a break.

:smash:

Ephemeral

09-03-2006, 12:46 AM

ATTN: John.

Get Skype omfg

Seafroggys

09-03-2006, 01:33 AM

are you guys kidding me? Roger's mic swinging was his trademark, like Pete's windmilling. It's what made the Who.

So if Roger's stage presence wasn't 'Who' material, then explain John please.

Your logic sucks.

Lunch

09-03-2006, 01:56 AM

I never had a problem with Roger's performance during the Tommy years. It was a little fluff, but that's what Tommy called for. Roger delivered the character perfectly I think, while still balancing his rock side and delivering on tracks like Young Man Blues, Shakin' All Over, etc.

JohnXDoe

09-03-2006, 03:37 AM

So if Roger's stage presence wasn't 'Who' material, then explain John please. Your logic sucks.
:upset:

His stage presence was fine. And I liked his mic swinging. Love it, as a matter of fact. But I've never cared for the whole hippie thing. And its well known neither did the Who. Pete paid them lip service because of the initial spiritual side of the movement, but the rest thought they were bollocks. I think Lunch can back me on this one. These were former sharp dressed mods and art school students. And as they evolved Pete became "anti-fashion" with the overalls and Doc Martins, Keith was just a wierdo, and John wore strange costumes. They weren't exactly Jefferson Airplane, if you get my drift.

And then we have Roger. Posing it up for the hippies with the fringe and the I don't know WTF? It bothers me to see him hanging in the background "grooving" while the band explodes around him. I'd prefer he just stood there. When I see The Who perform Water from the IOW DVD I want to shoot my tv from all his fake posing. I've got no prob with Rog except during this period. It wasn't the hair or fashion in particular. Just his physical performance and posing. Although similar in later years it seemed he was just doing the generic "hippie pose" during this time. It irritates me. The Who were very far from Peace and Love. And I like them that way. The somewhat "out there" Tommy notwithstanding.

EDIT to Jeff: I'm not quite sure what Skype is but I will google it and find out. Have an idea. Internet radio of some sort, I think? Sounds cool...

wanderer

09-03-2006, 10:30 AM

I think Roger's "posing" was spot on...

Ephemeral

09-03-2006, 03:29 PM

EDIT to Jeff: I'm not quite sure what Skype is but I will google it and find out. Have an idea. Internet radio of some sort, I think? Sounds cool...
It's a voice over IP thing..

Do you have a mic? We have MX conferences. :cool:

Also, about the whole Roger thing, I dunno. It just kind of bothered me that he would sing a line, then swing his mic, sing another, swing it again (in the same way), sing a line, dance around a bit with the tassels moving around, then swing it again. There is no doubt that he truly delivered with what he did do, but his stage "antics" weren't too refined in those days...

Ephemeral

09-03-2006, 03:54 PM

lol wtf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ied-kZKB4oo&NR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybt1nHHdyGQ

deejuks2

09-03-2006, 04:25 PM

not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but patton's Peeping Tom are opening for the who at MSG this month..........

JohnXDoe

09-03-2006, 07:26 PM

It's a voice over IP thing..

Do you have a mic? We have MX conferences. :cool:
this sounds cool. i'm in. gotta get a mic, though. i'll pic one up later this week. i'm assuming they are basically plug & play devices.
lol wtf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ied-kZKB4oo&NR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybt1nHHdyGQ
lol
not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but patton's Peeping Tom are opening for the who at MSG this month..........
yeah. everyone wants to play with the Who. and the Who aren't a afraid to have younger, more "modern" bands open. they kick arse nonetheless :)

EDIT: New Quadrophenia review at sputnik. Very short.....
<_<

Lunch

09-03-2006, 09:52 PM

I find it interesting how as music has evolved and times have passed, younger and modern bands continue to respect the Who. When punk was getting big in the late 70's most of their deal was to hate the older rock groups that in their views were outdated, but they always respected the Who. Even today, the Who are able to play at things like the Virgin Fest (and various other big events in Europe) with mostly younger modern groups.

Rubes9492

09-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Who's Next is still in my top 10 of favorite albums.....It's amazing!

RNR

09-03-2006, 11:01 PM

are you guys kidding me? Roger's mic swinging was his trademark

I would like to think that his singing was his trademark.

Ephemeral

09-04-2006, 01:41 AM

this sounds cool. i'm in. gotta get a mic, though. i'll pic one up later this week. i'm assuming they are basically plug & play devices.
Headsets work best

>_>

Lunch

09-04-2006, 01:52 AM

John: Careful about blaming Roger for the hippie imagery. Remember that Pete was the one most interested in the pop art/image of the band which eventually brought them to the psychedelic clothing style in the later 60's. Moon and Entwislte predictably stayed away from it, but Townshend was pushing the band in his own directions artistically by 1967. Look what he's wearing at Monterey or other photos from the time. Townshend was also the art college student and the only member who seriously experimented with marijuana and psychedelics, although he stopped soon after some bad experiences with STP. While it is true that he shifted out of trying to appeal to hippies as the 60's winded down, don't blame soley Roger for continuing his part in the scheme for a few years.

Seafroggys

09-04-2006, 01:54 AM

i think Roger's worst front man persona period was in the Kenney Jones era, personally.

Ephemeral

09-04-2006, 01:56 AM

Essentially, Mods were Britain's Hippies

=o

Lunch

09-04-2006, 01:57 AM

Only in the sense that they were both movements that many teenagers bought into, most of their noteworthy characteristics aren't very similar.

Ephemeral

09-04-2006, 01:58 AM

Yes, that's what I mean. They were both counter-culture movements.

Street_Fighting_Man

09-05-2006, 12:20 AM

I think the "hippie" look of Roger during the Tommy period suited him perfectly. I think he seemed more at ease on stage during that time than he did earlier in their career.

JohnXDoe

09-05-2006, 05:44 PM

JohnXDoe

09-05-2006, 11:06 PM

:wave:

JohnXDoe

09-05-2006, 11:11 PM

Lunch I want to address your last post but haven't the time. working from home atm. want to leave these for you guys right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3REa5oYRXE

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pete+Townshend&search=Search

The second is a crap load of pete stuff. interviews, music, etc...the first is pearl jam doing Baba 'O Riley. they do a geat job but don't quite deliver the finish. still nice. found both at pete's site.
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Just giving this a soft bump because its easy to miss at the bottom of the last page. I also wanted to add this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fm51QBZYLU&mode=related&search=

I know a lot of you youtube, but sometimes you gotta go deep. This is funny and interesting. Poor Kieth. And contrary to what someone commented I believe Keith is there for much of the song. I faintly hear drums, but can't see him. Of course the band plays on, 'cause after all this is the Who. Also the power of the band is extraordinary in spite of the bad sound. Good deal.

JohnXDoe

09-06-2006, 09:47 PM

Outstanding live video montage with The Who's cover of "Saturday Nights Alright For Fighting"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5v48Am2l0M&mode=related&search=

Short movie trailer for Quadrophenia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrlx6l0C4Ts&mode=related&search=

A MUST see. The greatness of this speaks for itself. Clicky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDE-ZvfOwU&mode=related&search=

Lunch

09-07-2006, 12:11 AM

John is too good. He's the only bassist (except for maybe Phil Lesh) that I can listen to song in and song out and just be constantly amazed. I mean on that take of WGFA it's Entwistle doesn't even need the rest of the band to make it interesting.

JohnXDoe

09-07-2006, 01:43 AM

Another thing I notice for the attentive viewer is the discipline put forth by him. It looks as if it took real effort to play like him. If you notice at the beginning when the song begins in earnerst he takes a very deep breath and leans into his instrument a bit. And at the end you see more deep breathes and some relief at the very end. What it must of took for him to play like that and just stand there with all that mayhem around. And after the synth break you can see the top of Pete's head pass him by as he just flew acrosss the stage onto his kness and John just sort of chuckles and plays on. Just really great footage.

JohnXDoe

09-09-2006, 05:05 AM

Latest news from Pete's site on the upcoming release:

*excited

6 September 2006

Endless Wire

After 24 years, the wait is almost over and October 31st will see the release of Endless Wire, the keenly-anticipated first new Who studio album since 1982's It's Hard.

The album features extended versions of the various sections that formed the Wire & Glass mini-opera as well as exploring other themes from Pete's novella The Boy Who Heard Music.

Opening track, Fragments, utilises the pioneering Method music software developed by Pete in conjunction with mathematician/composer Lawrence Ball and software-designer Dave Snowdon.

More details to follow soon but, for now, here's the full track-listing.

1. Fragments
2. Man In A Purple Dress
3. Mike Post Theme
4. In The Ether
5. Black Widow Eyes
6. Two Thousand Years
7. God Speaks To Marty Robbins
8. It's Not Enough
9. You Stand By Me
10. Sound Round
11. Pick Up The Peace
12. Unholy Trinity
13. Trilby's Piano
14. Out On The Endless Wire
15. Fragments Of Fragments
16. We Got A Hit
17. They Made My Dreams Come True
18. Mirror Door
19. Tea & Theatre

Ephemeral

09-10-2006, 01:49 AM

phew unbanned again. I was just about to post that Isolated Bass thing when I realized that John beat me to it

:p

JohnXDoe

09-10-2006, 07:38 AM

This is an open letter to America from Pete's Diaries, taken from his website as the eve of The Who's North American Tour approaches:

3 September 2006

A Letter To America

This is the last day I spend with my son, my family, our five dogs, in my garden, enjoying the end of the English summer, the blue dragon-flies over the mill-pond, the sound of the coots: Tomorrow I begin my journey to come and play to you. The European tour ended just before August began, and I’d hoped to spend the entire month relaxing, preparing for the two American legs of our tour this autumn. That was not to be. I have been finishing off the mixing of the Who album, liaising on the art work, doing some early interviews about it, and finally working to complete full-length versions of two songs from Wire & Glass (the Mini-Opera included on the album). If you have listened to the condensed version we put out in July, or watched any of our early live webcasts that featured the Mini-Opera, you will know the two tracks: Endless Wire and We Got A Hit.

I’ve been busy and so has my partner Rachel. We’ve recorded a few great new tracks of hers at home together, and she’s been working out how best to arrange her time on tour to promote her EP Shine and keep up her work on In The Attic. We try hard both to get in each other’s way as much as possible, and give each other career-space.

This weekend though has been deliberately slow. Two days running my son has had to do some inductions at his school, and show new kids around now he is a sixth-former. One of my two daughters is coming this evening to have a meal, and to catch up, and say goodbye. I walked the dogs this morning in a light rain on a deserted heath, passing only three people in ninety minutes, and stopped and chatted to a charming man who I didn’t recognise who said he had been the music director on the English theatre version of Tommy.

This entry is a kind of goodbye – for now – to this pleasant English life I lead when I am not being a rock musician. It is hello to hotels, media inquisitions, being shouted at in the street, and the security and safety of being sequestered at Who shows, ready to play, ready to fly, ready to try to forget who I was, who I am, and who I might one day soon become, and occupy the ‘zone’ for a few moments – and perhaps play as well as I did in Madrid.

I’m not going to pretend I’m looking forward to being away from home, but neither am I going to pretend I’m not looking forward to the tour. These are the last few hours I have to enjoy the almost absolute silence of the countryside, and the ability to instantly meditate as one can when sitting on a bench in a wood, or a field, or on a hill, with no body and no building in sight.

I heard some tracks from Bob Dylan’s new CD on BBC radio last night. They are great. Mature just as Bruce Springsteen’s last album was. The critics were favourable about the way Bob Dylan is facing his ageing process and is remaining connected with his ageing audience. It made me think; I believe I have done something like this on some of the songs on the Who album. But on some of them I have borrowed the voices of an imaginary young band of musicians, and allowed them to speak when very young, when young and middle-aged, and then when they are even older than I am today. I wonder why we, the song-writers of today, feel the need to even think about this? Did Cole Porter worry about the creatures of his craft growing old gracefully, bitterly or resolutely? Did Frank and Ella concern themselves about how strange it might be to sing songs about young love, when both of them were in old age?

Rock ‘n’roll – and Bob Dylan exploded from the slowly evolving folk traditions of Dave Van Ronk and Ritchie Havens and embraced the rock form by sheer force of will – is getting old. If it embraces the issues of ageing, it will age. Or would you say it is becoming universal now, free of limitation and constraint? Against all the odds I put up in my own jaundiced middle-age, rock is not dead. Neither is it right. Or wrong. Or a new religion. Or an answer. Or even a question. It’s a process. An island. Walk on, walk off. The kids in my imaginary band The Glass Household in Wire & Glass describe the process as breathing, exploding, imploding, climbing a stairway to a door made from a mirror, and walking through, expecting oblivion in a Black Hole, instead finding a slow after-show party.

I feel as though I’m walking out of the sleepy party, back through the door, down the stairway, to the stage. There’s some cleaning up to do down there before I can go back up and chit-chat about past lives.

-PT

Ephemeral

09-10-2006, 01:39 PM

:D

I always love reading his blog/diary thing. He's such a great writer with even those.

JohnXDoe

09-10-2006, 10:43 PM

whoa. just got in from the most boring day of the year. possibly the decade. perhaps my life.

pete is very entertaining, i agree. i've always appreciated his literary way with words and how he expresses himself. ever since i first became a Who fan that has been the case. he really drew me into the band. i just find him a fascinating character.

man, i'm so tired....

6stringed

09-11-2006, 10:03 PM

Pete Rocks BALLS

Lunch

09-11-2006, 10:07 PM

robo2448

09-11-2006, 10:10 PM

My two favorites are dead. But Pete and Roger still rock and are awesome guys.

I'm looking forward to the new album. Unfortunately, I'm missing out on them live.

Lunch

09-11-2006, 10:11 PM

John>Keith>Roger>Pete, in terms of how much I like each member.

Seafroggys mentioned that even though he was a drummer, John was his favorite member. That's obviously how I am too. I love Keith and think he is the greatest rock drummer of all time, so that really says something about what I think of John. Entwistle is probably one of my top two or three favorite musicians of all-time.

robo2448

09-11-2006, 10:14 PM

I think it says a lot about how awesome each of them were individually that I can't rank them. There are very few singers with more power than Roger, fewer drummers that can compete with Keith, and just about nobody can compete with John. As for Pete, well there are loads of better guitarists, but when you consider that he's also a great songwriter and underrated singer he compares well.

Lunch

09-11-2006, 10:15 PM

Pete is just dynamite to watch live, too.

JohnXDoe

09-12-2006, 06:54 AM

"I'm Pete Townshend, all I ever do is over analyze everything to the point where I sound way too smart for all my fans to understand me, therefore placing me above them with my pretentious attitude about all music and life."

JK I <3 you Pete.

...Just not as much as the other three guys.
the other three would of been much less without Pete. remember that, you lover of the most "pretentious" work about music and life Pete ever produced. which was Tommy, of course.

Pete> John > Keith > Roger

just for the record. :)

/smashes Lunch on the head with electric guitar

Dragon_Prince

09-12-2006, 09:23 AM

Moor deets

Nov. 13 - Salt Lake City, UT at the Delta Center
Nov. 14 - Denver, CO at the Pepsi Center
Nov. 17 - Dallas, TX at the American Airlines Center
Nov. 18 - Houston, TX at the Toyota Center
Nov. 20 - Miami, FL at the Bank Atlantic Center
Nov. 22 - Atlanta, GA at the The Arena at Gwinnett Center
Nov. 27 - Hershey, PA at the Giant Center
Dec. 1 - Uncasville, CT at Mohegan Sun
Dec. 5 - Grand Rapids, MI at the Van Andel Arena
Dec. 7 - Omaha, NE at the Qwest Center
Dec. 8 - Minneapolis, MN at the Xcel Energy Center
Dec. 11 - Columbus, OH at the Value City Arena

;) :D I think there are going to be a few people happy with the new dates(not me though)

6stringed

09-12-2006, 10:57 AM

Canadian Dates
Sep 30, 2006 London ON CA John Labatt Centre
Oct 03, 2006 Winnipeg MB CA MTS Centre
Oct 05, 2006 Calgary AB CA Pengrowth Saddledome
Oct 06, 2006 Edmonton AB CA Rexall Place
Oct 08, 2006 Vancouver BC CA GM Place
Oct 10, 2006 Portland OR US Rose Garden
Oct 11, 2006 Seattle WA US Key Arena
Nov 05, 2006 Los Angeles CA US Hollywood Bowl
Nov 24, 2006 Atlantic City, NJBorgata
Dec 04, 2006 Toronto ON Air Canada Centre

Lunch

09-12-2006, 03:29 PM

the other three would of been much less without Pete. remember that, you lover of the most "pretentious" work about music and life Pete ever produced. which was Tommy, of course.

Pete> John > Keith > Roger

just for the record. :)

/smashes Lunch on the head with electric guitar

Yea, but there's a big difference between creative leader and direcetor of a band and Pete Townshend. I like all his artsy writing and musical concepts, but he just rambles on about them forever. Especially Tommy. I'm not even trying to pretend to defend Tommy in those terms.

/sends you to hosptial with swift upper cut

robo2448

09-12-2006, 04:59 PM

JohnXDoe

09-13-2006, 01:10 AM

Yea, but there's a big difference between creative leader and direcetor of a band and Pete Townshend. I like all his artsy writing and musical concepts, but he just rambles on about them forever. Especially Tommy. I'm not even trying to pretend to defend Tommy in those terms.

/sends you to hosptial with swift upper cut
ouch! :upset:

yes. you are right. he does tend to explain things, ad infinitum. and i must admit it has bothered me when he does it from the stage. and he is never shy about telling an audience member to shut up or fuc.k off if they get impatient. which i've always thought was ok. even Roger has come to his aid on stage sometimes. or he laughs. the refreshing thing about pete though is that he is very self depreciationg, never taking himself too seriously. or at least admitting he is a self-indulgent twit at times. for all his highness i have always found him incredibly down to earth, accessible, honest, and humble. thats always been attractive to me. i also like his guitar playing. i think he does what he does very well. i also like the way his acoustic guitar leads the way on many of even the most explosive Who songs. right out front in the mix. in the studio, at least. from beginning to end he propels the songs forward with his acoustic playing. like on the new cut "We Got A Hit". pete is just rocking that acoustic. very unusual for bands like The Who.
I hope that CT date is near NY. Because I'm really pissed off I missed out on tickets for them considering their pretty much playing in NY all week right now.

Edit- Crap it's at Mohegan Sun. I'm pretty sure that that's in the middle of nowhere like 1.5-2 hours away from me.

Edit 2- Crap again, I just mapquested it and it's 2 hours away. Which is too far. I wish I had my own car. But there's no way my parents will drive me 2 hours to a concert, and there's no way they'd trust one of my friends driving 2 hours to a concert.
bummer, robo. that sucks. maybe something good will happen and you'll get to see them.

Hollywood Bowl FTW :)

Walrus Gumboot

09-13-2006, 04:09 PM

I hope that CT date is near NY. Because I'm really pissed off I missed out on tickets for them considering their pretty much playing in NY all week right now.

Edit- Crap it's at Mohegan Sun. I'm pretty sure that that's in the middle of nowhere like 1.5-2 hours away from me.

Edit 2- Crap again, I just mapquested it and it's 2 hours away. Which is too far. I wish I had my own car. But there's no way my parents will drive me 2 hours to a concert, and there's no way they'd trust one of my friends driving 2 hours to a concert.

Maybe you could dupe them into staying overnihgt at Mohegan sun? Maybe they would have cheap places to stay asuming that you would be blowing all of your money on casino-ing
otherwise I would recommend trying to find a bus

I'm bussing all the way to Boston for 5 hours or so. I hope the creep I have to sit next to isn't the worst smelling on the bus, but some sacrafices must be made for the Who

robo2448

09-13-2006, 04:29 PM

Too bad my parents aren't cool loose hippies like yours. They wouldn't let me near a bus. "Oh no, you'd get kidnapped!" Actually, they wouldn't say that, they'd laugh and assume I was joking.

But by then, I'll also be 18... which means I can do whatever the hell I want so maybe.

Sunny Afternoon

09-13-2006, 05:59 PM

Too bad my parents aren't cool loose hippies like yours.
Unlucky.

JohnXDoe

09-14-2006, 08:49 PM

well guys the band has kicked off the tour and it sounds like a good show. although some reports say the new stuff was a bit shaky in places. i'm sure they will work it out and hopefully keep performing it, as the the show is 2 hours 15 minutes. more then enough time to fit everything in. the new stuff takes maybe 25 minutes of that time. no setlist yet, but here is a good summary.

September 13, 2006

The Who by numbers -- high and low -- in Philadelphia
By Geoff Gehman Of The Morning Call

8:33 p.m. Tuesday, Wachovia Center, Philadelphia: The Who open their North American tour -- the first in four years and the first complete one led by Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend -- with a meaty, beaty and bouncy version of "Can't Explain," under a video of their 1960s and '70s hijinks as a quartet. The Mod anthem of defiant confusion launches a two-hour show that's glorious, dubious and curious, with all the highs and lows of rock opera.

8:44: "Baba O'Riley" crests on Townshend's knifing, pummeling power chords and Daltrey's funneled, foaming, furious vocals. At 62 he can still smash and cut glass with a scream.

8:55: Daltrey shows his raw, touchingly vulnerable side on "Real Good Looking Boy," Townshend's ruminative ode to Elvis Presley, one of his and Daltrey's heroes.

9:00: Townshend explains that he wrote "Real Good Looking Boy" years ago to jump-start a Who reunion with Daltrey and John Entwistle, the band's bassist who died in 2002. Ultimately, though, the project, which Tuesday night included a Townshend elegy to Entwistle, "ran out of steam."

9:03: "Wire & Glass," the mini-rock opera that convinced the frequently bickering Townshend and Daltrey to tour again, is a 15-minute spin through Townshend's typical obsessions: the heaven and hell of fame, the saving grace of music, the circuitous search for meaning. The centerpiece of The Who's new CD "Endless Wire," due in stores next month, it's a cracked mosaic of fragmented riffs and lyrical trifles. By comparison, "A Quick One While He's Away," the Who's nine-minute, witty, wacky medley from 1966, is downright unified.

9:20: "Relay," from Townshend's aborted "Lifehouse" project, features cutting, thrashing drumming from Zak Starkey, who was tutored by none other than Keith Moon, the Who's late, lamented maniacal genius. Steadier than Moon and flashier than Kenny Jones, The Who's second drummer, Ringo Starr's son plays detonating, levitating fills on everything from "Who Are You" to "Substitute."

9:40: Daltrey and Townshend duet on another track from "Endless Wire," "Man in a Purple Dress," a savage attack on hypocritical priests ("You're invisible to me/Like vapor on the sea"). Daltrey's rugged righteous wrath proves once again why he's Townshend's best interpreter.

10:01: "Won't Get Fooled Again," The Who's most operatic, foolproof tune, is a massive dose of ecstasy, a tribal orgy. It's thrilling to watch thousands of listeners swing their arms in tandem with Townshend as they become air-guitar gods.

10:19: A "Tommy" suite is stretched into an inter-galactic epic, propelled by Townshend's hammering, wailing, sky-biting "Purple Haze" solo on "Underture." Nevertheless, it sounds anticlimactic after "Won't Get Fooled Again." Even better would have been "Love Reign O'er Me"; sadly, strangely, there were no numbers from "Quadrophenia."

10:38: The concert ends with Daltrey and Townshend performing "Tea and Theatre," a sad, tender reunion of mad creators from Townshend's blog novella "The Boy Who Heard Music." Spectators toast the grizzled, gracious comrades with a thunderous "WHO!!!," a thank-you for 33 years of maximum R&B.

7:32: Peeping Tom starts the evening with a bizarrely engaging, somewhat endearing blend of hip-hop and death metal. The eight musicians mix turntable scratching and Arabic/outer-space fiddle, a bashing wall of rhythm and catchy rapping ("You don't like anchovies/You actin' salty)." Dressed all in white, lead singer Mike Patton whips his body and voice like David Bowie imitating Sly Stone, or Rob Zombie channeling Cole Porter. Despite their impressive chops, they're a poor opening act; the only one thing they share with The Who is a middle-finger attitude

Dragon_Prince

09-15-2006, 06:40 AM

Sirius Satellite Radio are to launch a 24-hour Who radio channel in the States. Press release below and a couple of other links attached with more details.

Hamish

* New 24-hour channel dedicated to legendary band

* Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey to produce channel

* Exclusive interviews with band members

* Broadcasts of current US tour dates and past concerts

* Backstage tour reports from musician Rachel Fuller

SIRIUS Satellite Radio (announced today that it will launch a commercial-free music channel dedicated to legendary rock band The Who. The company made the announcement during a press event attended by all current members of The Who at SIRIUS' New York City headquarters.

The Who Channel will debut on SIRIUS on Thursday, September 21. The limited-run channel will feature five decades of music by The Who, including rare tracks and live cuts, and SIRIUS-exclusive interviews with band members. Also featured will be nightly broadcasts of concerts on the band's current tour of the US and Canada, featuring commentary and backstage reports hosted by musician Rachel Fuller.

SIRIUS will also broadcast selected shows from The Who's massive archives, including some never before-heard shows and backstage conversations with the band, some with the late Keith Moon and John Entwistle.

Said The Who's Pete Townshend, "This is the most exciting thing I can imagine -- our own radio channel, straight to our fans. I'm completely revved about this. Who's serious about SIRIUS? You bet."

Scott Greenstein, SIRIUS President of Sports and Entertainment, said, "The band that revolutionized rock and roll as we know it will continue to make history by partnering with SIRIUS Satellite Radio for this groundbreaking channel. Our subscribers will be connected to all aspects of the band with an 'all access' pass granted to them by Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey in a unique and unprecedented way, including, with the advent of technology, the return of Keith Moon and John Entwistle."

The pioneering British rock band has reached a new level in its storied career. Endless Wire, The Who's first studio album in 24 years, will be released by Universal on October 31. The 19-track album features extended versions of the various sections that formed their Wire & Glass mini-opera (released in July 2006) as well as exploring other themes from Pete Townshend's novella, The Boy Who Heard Music.

Surviving original Who band members Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey are joined by bassist Pino Palladino, drummer Zak Starkey, guitarist Simon Townshend and keyboardist John "Rabbit" Bundrick on the new album as well as in their live performances. The Who launched their first world tour in more than 20 years on September 12 in Philadelphia, PA. More tour and ticket info is available at WhoTour.com.

SIRIUS, the content leader in radio, is the first to dedicate entire 24-hour, commercial-free music channels to some of the world's greatest artists. For three months in 2005, SIRIUS broadcast the E Street Radio channel, devoted to the music of Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, which featured exclusive interviews with Springsteen and band members, among other special programs. In September 2005, SIRIUS premiered Rolling Stones Radio (channel 98), devoted to the music of the Rolling Stones, and in March 2006, dedicated a channel for a limited time to the music of David Gilmour and Pink Floyd. SIRIUS launched Elvis Radio (channel 13), the world's only official, all-Elvis Presley radio channel broadcasting live from Graceland in Memphis, in June 2004. SIRIUS is also the exclusive satellite radio home of Shade 45 (channel 45), the uncut hip-hop channel co-created with Eminem, "Little Steven" Van Zandt's Underground Garage (channel 25) and Jimmy Buffett's Radio Margaritaville (channel 31).

For more information about SIRIUS, click HERE.

:D

Quiksilver26

09-15-2006, 01:27 PM

So apparently The Who was on Letterman last night... I just found out today =\. Anyone watch?

rockinbass17

09-16-2006, 11:19 AM

I caught them at Jones Beach on Wednesday night. :)

Setlist:

I Can't Explain
The Seeker
Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere
Baba O'Reilly
Behind Blue Eyes
Real Good Lookin' Boy
Wire and Glass
Relay
Who Are You
(New material I didn't recognize)
My Generation
Won't Get Fooled Again

Encore:
Substitute
Pinball Wizard
Amazing Journey/Sparks into Overture into See Me, Feel Me
(New material- very pretty acoustic song)

robo2448

09-16-2006, 11:29 AM

Damn that was the show I should have been at. I'm super jealous. That sounds great.

rockinbass17

09-16-2006, 11:39 AM

It really was the most amazing thing in the world. You might be able to find Garden tickets on ebay or something if you're willing to spend that much money. Even my tickets from Ticketmaster were $100 each. So worth it, though.

RNR

09-16-2006, 02:48 PM

Ooo. I can't wait until I see them.

2muchket!

09-16-2006, 03:56 PM

So you all looking forward to Endlees Wire next month ??

I want Tommy before I get that tho'

Seafroggys

09-16-2006, 08:48 PM

OMG its getting closer to The Who!

Yeah, I saw them on Letterman, my mom was all upset because they didn't do their 'old songs' :rolleyes:

As long as I see See Me Feel Me live, I am content.

JohnXDoe

09-16-2006, 10:54 PM

saw 'em on Letterman. looking forward to a hollywood bowl gig, hopefully. tickets still available both nights. seen 'em three times but want to hear the new stuff. plus the album comes out less then a week before. ought to be exciting.

rockinbass how does the new stuff sound? what is your impression? i hope they keep playing it.

rockinbass17

09-16-2006, 11:29 PM

I quite liked the new material. Especially the last song they played- odd that they would close with it when it is so new, but it was very pretty and I'm glad they did it.

Here's my review (it's a bit of a cheesy, overdone review. Sorry):

Take R&B- the mid-late Sixties type- and put it through an amplifier. Mix in one of the most solid rhythm sections in musical history, add rough, rebellious vocals, and top it off with one really loud guitar. Now you've got yourself The Who, one of the most timeless acts in all of rock and roll. Two rock-opera albums that will make history and one day be as respected as classical works from Bach and Beethoven. Pioneers of the synthesizer. Lush, intricate, and catchy vocal harmonies. The list goes on and on, only further proving the superiority that the band holds in the entire genre of rock music. But, perhaps the most important feature of the British mod group is their live show. The Who remain unchallenged as the ultimate live band. Just pick up Live at Leeds or The Kids Are Aright DVD if you don't believe me. And now, coming up on more than thirty years after their prime, Pete Townsend and Roger Daltrey can still boast to be the most mind-blowing live band in the world.
The set opened with the one of the bands earliest singles, 1965's "I Can't Explain." There was no fancy introduction, no smoke machines or dramatic entrances, the musicians just came on the stage and played. Townsend's guitar roared like thunder as he attacked chord after chord, conveying the frustration, anger, and rebellion that he felt when writing the songs way back in his 20's. "Baba O'Reilly" was met with a glorious uproar as the most memorable synth line ever filled the audience's ears. Daltrey's voice, even with a more narrow range than when he was younger, is still as raw and powerful as ever. Townsend's more melodic, sweet, high-pitched singing complemented Roger well.
Perhaps the most unpredictable aspect of the night's show was the quality of the new material. The first full-length Who album, titled Endless Wire since the mediocre 1982 release It's Hard is due out in the U.S. this fall. The focus of the new release is the mini-opera "Wire and Glass." It contains a series of seven Townsend compositions brought together to tell a story. No one could have predicted how well this new experiment turned out. It is not the cheesy, optimistic old man rocker music that most songwriters in their 60's turn out. It is The Who- there were hard-rocking social commentaries, beautiful melodies of love and the frustration that comes with it, and tunes that any young person today can still relate to, despite the songwriters being quite old.
"Won't Get Fooled Again" was an epic closer. If one was to define a generation in one song, if there was one song that can take all the aspects of the crazy life of an adolescent, it would be this timeless anthem. After the band came back on for the inevitable encore, they went into some tracks from the philosophical concept album Tommy, showing their more thoughtful artsy side. And the final song of the night was, oddly, a track from the new album. It was just Pete on his acoustic and Roger singing. It boasted a pretty structure played softly and sweetly by Townsend, with Roger singing as melodically as ever. A magical end to a rock show that touched upon every single conceivable human emotion.

JohnXDoe

09-17-2006, 06:52 AM

sweet, rockinbass. that was much more then i expected :)

i think i will pick up a ticket for the Hollywood Bowl. last i saw them at the Bowl i went alone and i think i will again. that way i can choose my spot and not be bothered by a companion. and if i have to settle for "upper bench" seats i can wander around freely, as those are usually general admission. good deal. rep++ for the review :)

*is excited

Ephemeral

09-17-2006, 01:32 PM

I missed them on Letterman. Oh well.

Tommy was on TV the other night, so I watched that.

joshmac

09-17-2006, 01:56 PM

I went to their concert friday, it was sick. Opening band (peeping tom) sucked major balls though. They played all of their big hits, twas great.

JohnXDoe

09-17-2006, 02:17 PM

So apparently The Who was on Letterman last night... I just found out today =\. Anyone watch?
i saw that. it was excellent. have it recorded on the DVR. they did Man In The Purple dress. just Pete and Rog. i didn't even know they were gonna be on. then Dave said "we'll be right back with The Who". i was like 'hell yeahs'! good performance, really good song. Roger was very solid. Pete, well, Pete. very nice.

Walrus Gumboot

09-17-2006, 03:32 PM

I just saw them last night. Amazing. The setlist was the same as the one posted above, and I even got to see Pete do that jumping/windmill thing. Granted, he didn't get as high up as he used to, but it was still amazing.

The last concert I saw was the Flaming Lips, and I thought it was weird that Pete brought them up when he was talking to the audience. That never happens...

Songs I wished they had played: 5:15, I'm Free
Songs they played that I hoped they would: Pretty much everything, esp. Won't Get Fooled Again

And Peeping Tom was terrible. Boston booed them off the stage. I hear out west moe. was opening

/jealous

Lunch

09-17-2006, 06:13 PM

Sucks to be Mike Patton.

AnyColour74

09-17-2006, 09:31 PM

just saw the guys in concert. UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLE

Broken Arrow

09-17-2006, 09:44 PM

Yeah, moe. is opening when I see the Who.

JohnXDoe

09-18-2006, 12:14 AM

The Artic Monkeys are scheduled to do some dates, too. Pity when the band you are opening for is the greatest live act ever. :)

The Who actually open for the Chili Peppers at the Virgin Festival. The Peps better be on top of their game that night.

omg what if Flea plays a song or two with The Who! :eek:

Dragon_Prince

09-18-2006, 02:13 AM

Flea and Chad should join for 5:15 and The Real Me, that'll be so cool(at least if I were there)

AnyColour74

09-18-2006, 06:08 PM

flea doing the real me would be crazy awesome

Lunch

09-18-2006, 06:38 PM

I don't think they need any help from Chad though.

Seafroggys

09-18-2006, 07:02 PM

seeing as Ringo Jr. is the 2nd greatest drummer the Who ever had.

JohnXDoe

09-18-2006, 07:49 PM

I don't think they need any help from Chad though.

Agreed. I like Chad but not for the Peps. Have seen the Peps on a few occasions. He is very heavy handed for that band. Would most likely be the same with The Who. Which is not suiting for The Who. Moon was many things, overbearing wasn't one of them. I hear Buddy Rich and dudes like that when i hear Moon sometimes, not John Bonham. All due respect to his memory.

Agree with Froggys as well. Zak is about as good as it gets. A few others would do fine, of course. But Zak really is great in his own right. And Moon is his Godfather, I believe. Tutored him on drums when he was a child. So its only fitting.

Lunch

09-18-2006, 07:50 PM

Bonham could play softly too, but Led Zeppelin's live show - much like the Who's - relied heavily on power and volume, which Bonzo no doubt delivered.

ATM

09-18-2006, 07:55 PM

Ephemeral

09-19-2006, 03:17 PM

Wasn't Zak taught by Keith anyways?

Broken Arrow

09-19-2006, 03:58 PM

And Moon is his Godfather, I believe. Tutored him on drums when he was a child. So its only fitting.
I think so.

Walrus Gumboot

09-19-2006, 04:29 PM

I think I appreciated him more than Jason Bonham

The strangest thing just happened, someone with and SN Lunch938 IMed me and asked me how The Who concert was. And it wasn't Lunch, it was some kid from the next buiding over. What are the chances of being one number off like that

Broken Arrow

09-19-2006, 04:31 PM

Slim to nil.

Lunch

09-19-2006, 04:46 PM

robo2448

09-19-2006, 05:08 PM

That's freaking weird.

JohnXDoe

09-19-2006, 05:30 PM

A couple of new songs leaked:
http://testing.universalmotown.com/thewho/eblast/eblast.html

Photos from the Boston show:
http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=393&zone=pr

Seafroggys

09-19-2006, 06:00 PM

pete still ****ing rocks!

Walrus Gumboot

09-19-2006, 06:37 PM

Thanks for posting those pictures, those are great

Lunch: it was this guy from my school I knew from doing a canoeing program. He happened to be on the bus on the way to Boston. I think he just likes food alot. Either that or he's stealing your identity

Lunch

09-19-2006, 08:00 PM

Haha, someone IMed me a long time ago with a Breakfast998 name. I never found out who it was though.

AnyColour74

09-19-2006, 08:57 PM

the who put on a great show

robo2448

09-19-2006, 09:24 PM

I like food a lot. But you don't see me stealing lunch's name.

Pete's still got mad ups.

JohnXDoe

09-19-2006, 10:39 PM

So have you guys listened to the two new songs I posted on the previous page? I like them. The second one is the album closer and most likely a career closer, too So I think its very appropiate. And the first one while fairly standard Townshend fare, will certainly find a place on the album. I actually like it quite a lot.

Lunch

09-19-2006, 10:42 PM

I'm waiting to read about Townshend tearing his ACL after trying to jump at one of the shows.

robo2448

09-19-2006, 10:45 PM

I think I'm going to wait until the album comes out.

Actually, I'll probably end up waiting until like tomorrow because I can't wait a full month.

JohnXDoe

09-20-2006, 01:54 PM

I'm waiting to read about Townshend tearing his ACL after trying to jump at one of the shows.
Townshend tore what when? where did this news come from? and i hope it doesn't keep him from jumping a month and a half from now :(

Lunch

09-20-2006, 03:45 PM

Townshend tore what when? where did this news come from? and i hope it doesn't keep him from jumping a month and a half from now :(

Haha, sorry to worry you man, I meant hypothetically. As far as I know he's still action Townshend.

JohnXDoe

09-20-2006, 04:04 PM

damn! that is a relief. guys are getting old. you never know. i was trying to imagine him sitting on a stool and windmilling. wasn't really working for me :(

rockinbass17

09-20-2006, 06:28 PM

I absolutley love "Tea and Theatre." It's beautiful, and they're closing their sets with it now. I think it's a fitting way to end.

I've heard "It's Not Enough" on the radio a few times. It's okay, nothing special. I find that what I heard from "Wire and Glass" and several other new songs live are better.

JohnXDoe

09-21-2006, 10:14 PM

I like Tea And Theatre as well. Its really nice. I agree about I've Had Enough. Its good enough. Fairly ordinary Who song. Will fit nicely on the album, of course. And does anyone think Pete and Roger sound especially good harmonizing together these days? They just sound great together.

In other news I got my ticket today. Hollywood Bowl. I lucked out with an aisle seat because i'm going solo. This way I won't be sandwiched between strangers and if the people in my row are idiots i can just wander out a bit. This is going to be GREAT!

JohnXDoe

09-22-2006, 12:08 PM

before i go to work just wanted to say they now have the Tommy/Quadrophenia live set available seperately. saw them at Tower records yesterday when i got my Who ticket. each one is only $15. they were out of the Quad disc, but will have more in tuesday. which i will pick up. the drawback is neither has the third disc of bonus material of the original set, which is substantial, and from what i've heard very desireable. its just the performance with a couple of bonus "features" on the same disc. but its also $20 cheaper for those who are just interested in one or the other (Tommy or Quad) of the performances.

Ephemeral

09-22-2006, 01:43 PM

We should direct Pete here.

He might take some interest in the site.

>_>

Lunch

09-22-2006, 03:23 PM

Even I would recommend picking up just the Quadrophenia disc, the Tommy performance is so over the top with all the added musicians. It seems so cheesy.

Seafroggys

09-22-2006, 04:56 PM

We should direct Pete here.

He might take some interest in the site.

>_>

dude, that would totally be insane. It would be so insane, that no one would believe it was him posting here!

Lunch

09-22-2006, 04:57 PM

He'd probably make fun of my original article. Then I would cry.

JohnXDoe

09-22-2006, 06:29 PM

i think he would do it. wonder if he has? perhaps i can exploit the sputnik name to our advantage. i can put out an email letter. but to whom? you know i can put 'hi i'm so and so from sputnik music and i thought you would like to know blah blah blah'. after all i am a "Staff Writer" lol. so i can lay on the BS. then i can mention the forums. that way we can get pete to check them out. he always talks about how he visits the boards and blogs to lurk around and see what people are saying. but what are the chances he would actually sign up and chat a while? not much, i would say.

meh, forget it. maybe it would be cool to know he actually read some of it. seriously, this has to be one of the biggest Who threads on the net. but we would never know. :(

i wanna meet pete! :upset:

Lunch

09-22-2006, 06:32 PM

Yea, but even if he's ever read this it would be cool. I mean, MX is one of the largest Music forums around last I heard, so if he does indeed check these things it's not all that unthinkable that he could show up here.

Street_Fighting_Man

09-22-2006, 10:20 PM

Even I would recommend picking up just the Quadrophenia disc, the Tommy performance is so over the top with all the added musicians. It seems so cheesy.
I disagree. First of all, you can tell that they're waaayyy more accustomed and comfortable playing Tommy on stage. Roger sounds so much better in the 89 show than he does in the 96 one. In the Quadrophenia show he is really straining which bothers me a bit, seeing as 1973 performances of it live sound so much better. Plus there's a lot of annoying backing vocals in that show, which put Love, Reign O'er Me and Dr. Jimmy off balance, because those two demand a strong lead vocal performance. Also, noone will ever sing Bell Boy like Keith! :p The guest stars in Quadrophenia just don't seem to fit like they do in Tommy; they seem to really bring those songs down. Whereas Phil Collins doing Fiddle About and Tommy's Holiday Camp give it a comical flavor, uhh who is it Simon Townshend? makes The Dirty Jobs a chore to listen to because I love Roger's performance in that song. Same thing with that P.J. Proby.

But then again, Tommy performed 1969/70 ****s all over both those performances, and so does the 1973 Quad shows, however technically challenged they were, they could make it sound good.

Lunch

09-22-2006, 10:27 PM

Yea but the Tommy performance is in the 80's, and it shows. Just looking at Roger's hair makes me cringe.

Pete Townsend

09-22-2006, 10:35 PM

Hello Posters of Sputnik. :wave:

I have been reading this thread for a couple weeks now on and off in between shows and other things. After reading that last conversation I knew I had to sign up and say hello to you guys.

-Pete

Lunch

09-22-2006, 10:47 PM

Hahaha.

Mr. Townsend, I need to ask for some proof.

Street_Fighting_Man

09-22-2006, 10:49 PM

Yea but the Tommy performance is in the 80's, and it shows. Just looking at Roger's hair makes me cringe.
Yeah, Roger's hair used to be beautiful in the early 70s.

But it's better than his hair in 96. Or lack thereof

Lunch

09-22-2006, 10:50 PM

Seafroggys

09-22-2006, 10:54 PM

Street_Fighting_Man

09-22-2006, 11:04 PM

I'm all for mullets, but there's a limit. Roger shouldn't have one. Short hair works well for him, it represents more his style then his long hair ever did. Even though as we've discussed in the past, I like his image during the hippie/Tommy era too.
I think his long curly hair worked best for him. But then again, I think I probably associate that hairstyle with the expansion of his vocal style, but really, that's just how he is in my mind. Like, in those shows from 79 or whenever where he's got short hair again, he looks so odd. I think it's an essential part of his image.

:chug:

Lunch

09-23-2006, 12:55 AM

Yea I'm not denying that it was essential for his image with the Who, put he was originally a tough-guy fighter growing up, and his aggression was a really cool part of what the Who delivered when they started. And that aggresion was still used in Young Man/Summertime Blues, etc. later on.

JohnXDoe

09-23-2006, 08:10 AM

Hahaha.

Mr. Townsend, I need to ask for some proof.
apparently pete has forgotten how to spell his own last name :(

IMPOSTER! REVEAL YOURSELF! :smash:

JohnXDoe

09-23-2006, 08:24 AM

I disagree. First of all, you can tell that they're waaayyy more accustomed and comfortable playing Tommy on stage. Roger sounds so much better in the 89 show than he does in the 96 one. In the Quadrophenia show he is really straining which bothers me a bit, seeing as 1973 performances of it live sound so much better.

Plus there's a lot of annoying backing vocals in that show, which put Love, Reign O'er Me and Dr. Jimmy off balance, because those two demand a strong lead vocal performance. Also, noone will ever sing Bell Boy like Keith! :p The guest stars in Quadrophenia just don't seem to fit like they do in Tommy; they seem to really bring those songs down. Whereas Phil Collins doing Fiddle About and Tommy's Holiday Camp give it a comical flavor, uhh who is it Simon Townshend? makes The Dirty Jobs a chore to listen to because I love Roger's performance in that song. Same thing with that P.J. Proby.

But then again, Tommy performed 1969/70 ****s all over both those performances, and so does the 1973 Quad shows, however technically challenged they were, they could make it sound good.
i've viewed the Quad disc and will be reviewing it for sputnik today. needless to say i love it. the things you don't like about it i like quite a lot. i thought the guest performers for the Tommy disc seemed ill suited and tacked on. they just strolled on, intruded on the show, and strolled off. i like the way they were presented on the Quad disc, and feel Idol did a great job. and simon and pete singing together for The Dirty Jobs? they sounded great! and i felt the camera captured them nicely. i also like the way the DVD captured the show by showing the film clips using the actual concert sound and screen. And while Daltrey does strain throughout, thats nothing new for him in his career. and watching him give it a go is kind of inspiring, IMO. such a powerful singer.

Tommy performed with such a big band was kind of a disappointment because The Who had mastered it for stage long before. Quadrophenia needed this, IMO. it really brought the album to life. The Who did this because they could not do it in the '70's, and full performances of Quad were soon scrapped because the backing tapes needed and musical granduer necessary simply made it impossible for The Who to do. These performances fixed all that, IMO. And Quad got the treatment it has long deserved. Its really exciting for me to watch. And the DVD looks and sounds great.

Pete Townsend

09-23-2006, 10:31 AM

Hello Again

I should have made it clear that the username "Pete Townshend" had already been taken thus I had to leave the "h" out of Townshend. Hope it doesn't bother you. Anyways I hope you guys/girls are all coming out to our North American Tour.

-Pete

RNR

09-23-2006, 10:51 AM

Mr. Townsend, nobody will believe that it's you on an internet forum. And i'm already going :)

JohnXDoe

09-23-2006, 10:54 AM

oic, pete. and i see you have a little rep already, too. pretty good for a n00b.

tell me pete, where did you get the windmill from? was it bowling? no. if you are the real pete you will know the answer to this...

:shifty:

Seafroggys

09-23-2006, 01:59 PM

he can just wikipedia this, dude

JohnXDoe

09-23-2006, 02:08 PM

wiki doesn't know what i know :cool:

Dragon_Prince

09-23-2006, 02:40 PM

Gehe, so reallyPete Townshend? Tell me what did Roger got thrown at his body and where @ hyde park calling? And how did the press liked that show?

Seafroggys

09-23-2006, 02:55 PM

good job with your mix of 1st and 3rd person perspective

Street_Fighting_Man

09-23-2006, 04:10 PM

Quadrophenia needed this, IMO. it really brought the album to life. The Who did this because they could not do it in the '70's, and full performances of Quad were soon scrapped because the backing tapes needed and musical granduer necessary simply made it impossible for The Who to do. These performances fixed all that, IMO. And Quad got the treatment it has long deserved. Its really exciting for me to watch. And the DVD looks and sounds great.
Yeah, that's what The Who will say, and that's what Who history says, but have you actually heard Quadrophenia from that time period? With Daltrey in top form, Moon singing Bell Boy like a champ, and Townshend being more prominent, the performance just blows away the 96 show. Regardless of what the general attitude is to the early Quadrophenia shows, they DID have some good ones.

Lunch

09-23-2006, 04:14 PM

User Name

09-23-2006, 04:17 PM

wow, a Who thread. They're my favorite band of all time.

Street_Fighting_Man

09-23-2006, 04:21 PM

So you're trying to say that the Tommy DVD is better because the older Quadrophenia performances were better than the performance on the Quad DVD? You mentioned yourself that the Tommy tours from 1969-1970 blew away their other years, so I don't see the point you're making.
No, I was responding to his point that the Quadrophenia shows in 96 were somehow superior to what Quadrophenia live in the 70s was, which I disagree with. I don't think they needed the extra band and the backup singers to pull it off.

I think that the earlier performances of both of these rock operas were better, but that's given, and I already explained why I thought Tommy was better on the DVD.

Lunch

09-23-2006, 04:25 PM

Fair enough. I like Tommy much more than Quadrophenia, but still I just don't buy into the performance on the DVD. The Quad performance was just much more effective, to me.

Street_Fighting_Man

09-23-2006, 04:27 PM

Fair enough, for the record, Pete's performance of Drowned on that DVD is way cool.

Dragon_Prince

09-23-2006, 05:06 PM

good job with your mix of 1st and 3rd person perspective

Ooops

But it wouldbe cool if it really was Townshend

Seafroggys

09-23-2006, 05:12 PM

wow, a Who thread. They're my favorite band of all time.

cool! They're my second favorite!

Lunch

09-23-2006, 05:18 PM

Second isn't high enough for you to post in here, sorry. I'm sure you can dig up the Beatles thread.

JohnXDoe

09-23-2006, 05:27 PM

Yeah, that's what The Who will say, and that's what Who history says, but have you actually heard Quadrophenia from that time period? With Daltrey in top form, Moon singing Bell Boy like a champ, and Townshend being more prominent, the performance just blows away the 96 show. Regardless of what the general attitude is to the early Quadrophenia shows, they DID have some good ones.
I've heard Drowned, Bell Boy, Sea And Sand, The Punk And The Godfather from '74. They are good. But The Who only performed Quadrohenia on one tour, dropping five songs after the very first gig. And from all reports Roger ruined the segment from insisting on explaining each song and the band didn't play well to the backing tracks. By the time they got 'round to what I've heard I'm sure they had things worked out.

I'm not saying they were bad. The Who were never bad. But I'm not such a purist that I don't think loud horns, percussion, and back-up singers didn't do this album some justice. You could tell The Who were playing to tapes back then. Bell Boy was embarrassing. They had to lip sync some of it. Good as it was, it wasn't all live. They had to play it by the numbers. I hear a really live and lively band on the DVD. I just think it sounds like Quad live should sound. Anyway, I'm reviewing it for sputnik, so I'll save whatever else I have to say for that.

Its wearing me down :(

Seafroggys

09-23-2006, 10:55 PM

Second isn't high enough for you to post in here, sorry. I'm sure you can dig up the Beatles thread.

:p

Moon and Enty are my favorite drummer and bassist, so there! I can post!

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 09:05 AM

oh sure. over ringo and paul? tough choice...

and anyone who calls John "Enty" cannot post! :mad:

Seafroggys

09-24-2006, 02:25 PM

sorry :(

I feel so shamed now.

Though Paul was a damn good bass player, he did some cool **** from time to time. People underestimate him technically.

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 02:43 PM

i like the beatles but coudn't tell you anything about them. i do know paul is a good musician, though. its obvious. and most likely even better then he commonly gets to show. i always saw him as the most musical beatle with his arrangements and ability to not just play any instrument (within reason) but also play it well. john is still my favorite beatle, though. his songs just have more impact overall, IMO. and i truly believe him to me the better songwriter.

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 06:28 PM

kekekeke

Who Webcast by me on now, into the night :)

Just download this file:

http://137.186.214.115:8000/listen.pls

and open it with your media player

Current Album: Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 06:45 PM

ha! I'm rockin this shi...jeff. Boris The Spider ftw!

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:02 PM

okay

I'm going to try bumping it up to a higher quality stream. It will stop for a sec, but should come on in at least 5 seconds. Tell me if it starts skipping or anything plz

EDIT: kdone

Current Album: Quadrophenia

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 07:04 PM

it just happened. skipped a little. sounds about 5 times better. higher highs, lower lows...

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:04 PM

alright, but is it skipping now at all?

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:06 PM

if not, i'll try taking it higher

>_>

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 07:06 PM

no. it's playing I Am The Sea. everything is perfect.

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:08 PM

k streaming at 192 kbps now

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 07:09 PM

jeff, did you get a promo code with your ticket that allows you to join the who fan club? its new. called squeeze box. if its on the ticket, where? i've tried a variety of random numbers from my ticket and i've come up empty. anyone else know anything about this?

oh, and the music just completely stopped...

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 07:10 PM

started a little, then stopped again

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:13 PM

k

I ahve more users now, so I think I'll have to take the quality down a bit more

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:14 PM

oshi all gone now

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:19 PM

come back

:'(

JohnXDoe

09-24-2006, 07:34 PM

meh. i gotta run out. been a crazy day. i'll try it out when i get back. i like it. pretty cool, man. good deal...

Ephemeral

09-24-2006, 07:41 PM

cya

I'll play some different stuff later..

JohnXDoe

09-25-2006, 12:09 AM

I POSTED THIS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LAST PAGE. AFRAID NO ONE WILL SEE IT. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT:

jeff, did you get a promo code with your ticket that allows you to join the who fan club? its new. called squeeze box. if its on the ticket, where? i've tried a variety of random numbers from my ticket and i've come up empty. anyone else know anything about this?

JohnXDoe

09-25-2006, 09:04 PM

ok ignore the above post. i worked it out and grabbed these headlines from the fan club site. looks like The Who pwn3d the RHCP at the Virgin Festival:

September 25, 2006

The Washington Times

The last time there was a mass gathering at Pimlico Race Course, at May's Preakness Stakes, a young champion thoroughbred suffered a devastating, career-ending injury.

At Saturday's Virgin Festival, rock legends the Who proved they're not quite ready to be put out to pasture.

From the moment Pete Townshend windmilled the opening chords of "I Can't Explain," the band had the crowd's rapt attention -- even that of the youngish horde that packed the stage area in anticipation of headliners Red Hot Chili Peppers.

The Who played a pair of tracks from the forthcoming miniopera "Endless Wire," but it was the classic tracks that wowed the audience. Roger Daltrey's voice, while gravelly, has aged well; he brought plenty of style to songs like 1981's "You Better You Bet," and his nimble harmonica work stood in for the fiddle of "Baba O'Riley's" coda.

"Pinball Wizard" kicked off a mini-"Tommy" set with intense energy that cooled effortlessly into the repose of its "See Me, Feel Me" sequence.

When Mr. Daltrey let go that shriek at the end of "Won't Get Fooled Again," he proved that song's last two lines: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

It was a tough act for the Chili Peppers to top. Maybe that's why they didn't try. They sounded terrible (excepting, perhaps, guitarist John Frusciante's beautiful back-up singing). Each member seemed to be playing as if the others weren't there.

Attendees would have done better to move to the second stage and end their night with the Flaming Lips. The strange and talented alternative band boasted a stage full of Santa Clauses along with some of the day's most beguiling music.

"I can't wait to see them. My parents used to listen to them," Chris Trevino, 17, said of the Who. He was part of an ebullient group of youngsters who trekked to Baltimore from Fredericksburg, Va., -- a comparatively short trip for some in the audience Saturday.

Ellen Donahue, 29, came from Seattle, although the putative reason for the trip was to visit an East Coast boyfriend. The prospect of seeing the Who and Red Hot Chili Peppers in the same sitting was an added sweetener.

Given the nightmarish parking situation that greeted many in the crowd of 40,000, ailing Pimlico seemed a spectacularly ill-chosen venue for the first annual U.S. Virgin Festival, the baby sister of Britain's popular V-Fest. Once inside, however, all was forgiven, as the eccentric sights -- and illicit smells -- instantly created a familiar carnival atmosphere: peaceful, loud, comical, druggy, insanely frustrating.

And exhausting.

Ephemeral

09-26-2006, 12:05 AM

Hi John, sorry I didn't answer that thing. I couldn't find the code on my ticket, but got them to email me one. See you there.

JohnXDoe

09-26-2006, 12:29 AM

yeah. sure thing. they have some decent forums. not just who stuff, but mostly. i'm signed up as whodude. i'm going to make a little profile and stuff. watched some video from there today. pretty nice. Pick Up The Peace sounds real good live. and townshend is answering some questions from fans. not in the forums, but at the site. i like it.

oh, and i got them to send me a code, too. pretty easy. well worth it.

Ephemeral

09-26-2006, 12:37 AM

ugh

never mind...

my mom won't let me sign up for it...

as I understand, I need to provide credit card info, and it's free for a year, and then they start charging? I know you can cancel it though, as it says that.

She says, "I don't think you really need that." =(

Seafroggys

09-26-2006, 03:41 AM

15 days

JohnXDoe

09-26-2006, 08:55 AM

41 days :)

another positive review from Virgin Festival:

http://www.spin.com/vfest06/2006/09/060923_thewho/

xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx

09-27-2006, 10:22 PM

Saw The Who last night...and it was SPLOOGE WORTHY!

They played EVERYTHINGASD:ALKGHPAO>LGMNAPAOJSD

I STILL HAVE A BONER.

blue3

09-27-2006, 10:27 PM

Well, that's good to know. Who was the opening band?

xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx

09-27-2006, 11:02 PM

Well, that's good to know. Who was the opening band?

Some band called Moe...they SUCKED ***...I think the Pretenders are going to be opening later in the tour...i dont really like them either...

Maggot Dream

09-27-2006, 11:05 PM

Ah, moe. They played with Gov't Mule last time I saw them. They weren't too great. 30+ minute 'jams' that went nowhere.

I'm really jealous that you guys can see The Who. I'm going out of town and missing them by one day. I've seen them once before, but it's still really disappointing.

JohnXDoe

09-27-2006, 11:20 PM

Some news from Chicago. Roger loses voice. Pete steps in and saves the day:

The Who are now effectively a duo, but for one song Monday at the sold-out United Center, they were down to a single guitarist.

Roger Daltrey exited the stage when his voice momentarily gave out, and it was up to Pete Townshend to carry the load. He overcompensated, and uncaged one of the finest performances I've seen at a Who concert in decades.

"My Generation" became not a nostalgia anthem that looked back to 1965, but something that spoke to who Townshend and his audience are now. The 61-year-old elder statesman turned the now infamous line, "Hope I die before I get old," into a howl of dissent. "I can't die ... We can't die ... There are too many of us!"

Townshend's guitar strafed Zak Starkey's drumbeat with shuddering sustains and staccato runs, then landed one final, crashing windmill chord. "This ... is ... my ... generation, baby!" he exulted.

It was Townshend tipping his mighty ax to Dylan Thomas: "My Generation" transformed into "Do Not Go Gentle Into that Good Night," and its exhortation to "rage, rage against the dying of the light."

also for those of you with access to a credit/debit card (although there is no charge for a basic membership) the new Who fanclub at http://www.thewhotour.com/ is just full of good stuff daily. and lots of videos, interviews, info, message boards, etc. really nice job they have done. if you bought a ticket to a gig you are already a member. you just have to go and give them your details.

JohnXDoe

09-27-2006, 11:27 PM

Full review of the Chicago gig:

The kids may just be alright but the old guys are great. Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend brought The Who or The Two (as some are referring to them these days) to Chicago last night and they proceeded to blow the roof off of the United Center.

Although, at one point during the show it looked like this might be their final performance when Daltrey had problems catching his breath after “You Better You Bet”. After a few brief words to Townshend, the weary singer slowly exited the stage leaving Townshend and the band to perform a loose version of the classic anthem, “My Generation” that went into the song, "Cry If You Want". Daltrey retuned there after proclaiming he wasn’t dead yet and proved it with a hard rocking version of “Won’t Get Fooled Again”. As the audience applauded in unison, Daltrey stuck to his word coming back alive swinging his microphone as Townshend kicked it up a notch coming closer to Daltry playing off of his new found energy.

After all these years the chemistry of Daltrey and Townshend is still there and more alive then ever. Call them what you will but these guys can still rock and they have the arsenal of hits as their tools to do so. Tonight’s show was no exception as the boys opened with a few of their early hits including “I Can’t Explain”, “Anyhow Anyway Anywhere” and “The Seeker”. Yet, tonight was also about previewing some of the new songs playing a song called “Fragments” and the mini-opera “Wire & Glass” which they released earlier this year. Just a few songs they have been known to preview recently that will be included on an album of new material and their first album since 1982’s “It’s Hard”.

”Let’s pretend we just went off stage and we had our oxygen, our transfusions, our coke and brandy like rock stars do…or did", Townshend jokes to the crowd before introducing the band. Still larger than life, the guitar God may look more like a college professor these days but he can deliver his signature windmills and can jump around with the best of them.

Daltrey, although stumbling briefly in the middle of the set has the powerful lungs from his youth and proved it tonight by belting out the high notes. Daltrey was on fire during tonight’s performance of “Baba O’Reilly” and even added some nice harmonica playing turning the song into a hoedown jam.

Since the 1996 Quadrophenia tour, Ringo Starr’s son, Zak Starkey, has been the man behind the skins and has proven he is the next best thing to Keith Moon. In fact, Moon who was a friend of his fathers actually gave him his first drum lessons. Zak showcased his talents during the “Tommy” medley that included “Pinball Wizard”, “Amazing Journey”, “Sparks” and “See Me Feel Me”.

The Who has always been about the raw testosterone of male youth and it’s amazing they are still able to sustain the energy today. Tonight’s set list was predictable at times but what did you expect? They played a few hits, several new songs and they showed us how lucky we are that they didn’t die before they got old.

Dragon_Prince

09-28-2006, 01:40 AM

There's almost nothing better than Baba O' Riley live :), I only think Echoes has topped that song of my best seen live songs(and maybe some other songs, but I won't bother you with that :P)

JohnXDoe

09-28-2006, 11:34 AM

i'm not sure what Echoes is? is that some pink floyd? anyway, baba pwns it all...

JohnXDoe

09-28-2006, 12:07 PM

here is the official press release for Endless Wire, The Who's upcoming album. so this is what they are telling the press about the recording. most of it is a track by track commentary by pete townshend himself. its long, so in two posts:
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Released 30th October 2006 on Polydor Records

London, September 2006.

It’s been said before but ‘long awaited’ doesn’t even begin to describe ‘Endless Wire’ the new album by The Who, the band’s first in 24 years.

Recorded, as Pete Townshend puts in the album’s sleeve notes, ‘discontinuously’ over the past four years, the nineteen tracks on the record reflect a band still pushing the boundaries of rock music and unafraid to experiment.

Alongside nine new Townshend compositions, half of the album is the full- length version of the mini opera ‘Wire And Glass’, a taster for which was released earlier this Summer.

The band are currently undertaking a sold out US tour before returning to the UK for their last European show of the year at London’s Roundhouse as part of the ‘Electric Proms’.

Talking about the album Roger Daltrey commented, "John Entwistle died and that changed the balance in the band. Pete and I are at two opposite ends of the globe, if you like, and John was the equator. Now it's very, very, different. Not sure what it is but something's happening - and it's giving us a whole new edge."

Pete Townshend – ‘This is not the old Who, we never said it would be, It is something else’.

Whatever that something else and whole new edge are, the new album has the unmistakable power and sound of a band with some unfinished business.

The tracklisting for ‘Endless Wire’

1. Fragments (Townshend/Ball)
2. A Man In A Purple Dress (Townshend)
3. Mike Post Theme (Townshend)
4. In The Ether (Townshend)
5. Black Widow’s Eyes (Townshend)
6. Two Thousand Years (Townshend)
7. God Speaks of Marty Robbins (Townshend)
8. It’s Not Enough (Townshend/Fuller)
9. You Stand By Me (Townshend)

Tracks 10 – 19 comprise the full length Mini-Opera ‘Wire And Glass’.

10. Sound Round (Townshend)
11. Pick Up The Peace (Townshend)
12. Unholy Trinity (Townshend)
13. Trilby’s Piano (Townshend)
14. Endless Wire (Townshend)
15. Fragments of Fragments (Townshend/Ball)
16. We Got A Hit (Townshend)
17. They Made My Dream Come True (Townshend)
18. Mirror Door (Townshend)
19. Tea & Theatre (Townshend)

The following are notes written by Pete Townshend about each of the tracks on ‘Endless Wire’.

FRAGMENTS

This song is based on one of the very first experiments by Lawrence Ball, a composer I commissioned to create a system, and software, that would recreate the ‘Method’ music (music accurately reflecting an individual via a website) described in my three interlocked rock-opera projects: Lifehouse (The Who 1972); Psychoderelict (Pete Townshend solo 1993); The Boy Who Heard Music (Weblog Novella 2005-2006).
In The Boy Who Heard Music a group of three young people form a band – The Glass Household – and their first big hit is this song.

MAN IN A PURPLE DRESS

After watching Mel Gibson’s harrowing 2004 film The Passion of the Christ I immediately wrote three songs. This was one of them. It is not so much a rail against the principles of justice through the ages, but a challenge to the vanity of the men who need to put on some kind of ridiculous outfit in order to pass sentence on one of their peers. It is the idea that men need dress up in order to represent God that appals me. If I wanted to be as insane as to attempt to represent God I’d just go ahead and do it, I wouldn’t dress up like a drag-queen.

MIKE POST THEME

Who songs have been used recently for TV shows. I thought a lot about why there are people who feel that isn’t a cool thing to do. Mike Post is a man who has written a number of TV themes that I feel have created a kind of regular sparkle in my life – they have reminded me that life comes one day at a time, and that it is truly the little things in life (like Soap Operas on TV) that help ease the big troubles. The larger theme in the background of this song is the statement that we are no longer strong enough or young enough to love. In a very real way, movies, novels and TV series do help us to express selfless emotions as we once did when we were in love. Men cry quietly watching TV and movies, women maybe a little more openly, but when we do that we are reconnecting with our innocent and free-flowing feelings. If only we could still do that with the principle lover in our lives.

IN THE ETHER

In my Novella The Boy Who Heard Music the narrator is Ray High, a rock star whose drug-abuse has led him to a sanatorium. While there he learns to meditate and begins to sense that someone is interfering with his quietude up in the place where he allows his mind to go. It seems almost as though they are using a Ham Radio, and old fashioned long-wave radio that was the specialist precursor to the modern internet Chat-Room. He may sense another presence, but this song reinforces how lonely it is to be ‘spiritual’. If the intention of the spiritual aspirant is to ‘become one with the infinite’, and yet life is almost the universally finite antidote to the infinite, isn’t he likely to get very lonely?

BLACK WIDOW’S EYES

A love song. We sometimes fall in love when we do not want to, and when we do not expect to. Suddenly. Foolishly. This song is about the man holding a child in the Beslan massacre who described the female terrorist who blew herself up, killing the child he held, as ‘having the most penetrating and beautiful eyes’.

TWO THOUSAND YEARS

This is one of the three songs I wrote after watching The Passion of the Christ. This one is about the fact that Judas may not have been acting to betray Christ at all, but precisely following his instructions. He waits two thousand years for us to consider this a possibility. We wait two thousand years for the New Christ. We need a lot of patience.

GOD SPEAKS, OF MARTY ROBBINS

Very simple song. God is asleep, before Creation – before the Big Bang – and gets the whim to wake, and decides it could be worth going through it all in order to be able to hear some music, and most of all, one of his best creations, Marty Robbins.

IT’S NOT ENOUGH

Watching Mepris, the ‘60s film by Lean Luc Godard starring Bridget Bardot, I found myself wondering why it is that we choose people to partner who we feel aren’t quite right. Bardot asks her lover, ‘Do you adore my legs?’ He nods. ‘My breasts?’ He nods. ‘My arms?’ He nods. She goes over her entire body. He nods every time. When she’s finished she gets up and tells him, ‘It’s not enough’.

YOU STAND BY ME

I wrote this a few minutes before appearing on my partner Rachel Fuller’s In The Attic Live webcast show from my studio in London. I had nothing new to play, and decide to write a song. This just came out. It is for her, and for Roger, for believing in me, and standing by me when I have been completely out of order. It could be for many of my family, friends and fans who have done the same. I have often been a very tricky man to live with.

JohnXDoe

09-28-2006, 12:08 PM

Tracks 10 – 19 comprise the full length Mini-Opera ‘Wire And Glass’.

SOUND ROUND

The first song from Wire & Glass, a ‘Mini-Opera’, ten songs that comprise the principle music composed so far for the novella The Boy Who Heard Music. A young man (the young Ray High) is driving a large camper bus with extreme air-con around an Estuary close to a large Power Station. He can see that the sea is swarming with a plague of jellyfish encouraged by the over-heated sea water (this is based on something that happened around 1971 in the Blackwater Estuary in Essex). He stops and looks at the water, throws a stick for his dog, who he has to rescue. In the sky he sees the future – nothing ecological or apocalyptic, more a vision of a society strangled by wire and communications.

PICK UP THE PEACE

Ray High, now an old ‘60s rocker, is meditating in what looks like a cell in a secure hospital. He sees three teenagers from his neighbourhood getting together as kids do, playing, flirting, talking, and forming a band. Then he has an intuition that they are going to become stars. They are Gabriel, Josh and Leila. (They call their band The Glass Household). In striking contrast he sees scenes from his own childhood in the same neighbourhood, bombed buildings and old soldiers.

UNHOLY TRINITY

The three kids are from very different families. Gabriel is from a show biz family of lapsed Christians. Josh is from a fairly devout Jewish family (they observe Sabbath) who have suffered a tragedy, the loss of their father in an incident in Israel. Leila, from a Muslim family who have also suffered a loss: that of her beautiful and charismatic mother who died when she was very young. They each share fantasies, and afflictions, gifts and ideas, and become deeply committed friends. Like urchin-angels they share their secrets: Gabriel hears music; Josh voices; Leila can fly.

TRILBY’S PIANO

Josh’s widowed mother vests all her hopes in her brother Hymie becoming a great man. He falls in love with Trilby, Gabriel’s goofy blonde Aunt. Trilby is the one who has nurtured Gabriel’s great musical talent, unnoticed by his precoccupied mother. The kids decide to put on a musical play at Leila’s father’s studio featuring this song, and it finally breaks Josh’s mother’s resistance to the love match. The song is sung by Gabriel. The play is a naiive children’s effort, but with a grand proscenium stage (like a large Victorian puppet theatre) a stairway and a cherub and angel filled backdrop.

ENDLESS WIRE

At some point in their rehearsals for the play, the three teenagers unearth documents that turn out to have belonged to Ray High, Leila’s father’s old studio partner. The documents refer to a crazy scheme to use the global wire network Ray saw as a young man to spread unifying music to everyone. (This matches my own vision for the Lifehouse Method, a computer-driven website through which people can commission their unique musical portrait.) They pore over the plans and realize that his scheme might be something they can make happen.

FRAGMENTS OF FRAGMENT

An instrumental version of FRAGMENTS. An example of the Method music.

WE GOT A HIT

In a series of intense discussions the three metamorphose from kids to adults and expert media and internet manipulators and we see them performing a hit on TV, radio and stage. The hit referred to in the lyric is FRAGMENTS.

THEY MADE MY DREAM COME TRUE

Still in his cell, Ray High can observe the kids’ rise to fame while meditating. He foresees a tragedy, someone at the band’s biggest ever, and last, concert will die. He rues the fact that the rock industry seems unable to change. What is never clear is whether the concert he foresees ever takes place in reality, or actually remains a dream forever.

MIRROR DOOR

The three pursue their own dream: to perform an extraordinary elaboration of their children’s play in Central Park in New York that is webcast to the entire world for charity, and during which they demonstrate Ray’s idea to ‘turn everyone into music’. Where there was once a small puppet theatre stage, there is now a massive one; where there was once a small stairway to the back of the stage, there is now a stairway hoisted by blimps that seems to reach into the heavens. The band play, it becomes clear that there are terrorists on the streets trying to distract from the celebration, but the show goes on. At the top of the stairway appear gathered a series of legendary singers from popular music, all dead. A shot rings out and the tragedy is established. Josh, a paranoid schizophrenic, has stopped taking his medication and grabbed a pistol from someone and shot Gabriel. We cannot help our own. He ascends the stairway to join the dead. Even now, it is not clear whether this particular series of events actually takes place.

It will be noted that one of the listed names of deceased singing geniuses (Doris Day) is still alive. In show-biz heaven, behind the ‘Mirror Door’ no one ever really dies (it is rather like an after-show pub gathering). FRAGMENTS, the kid’s biggest hit, becomes a moment to look back and celebrate life, death, breath, creation, science, physics, maths, literature and growth.

TEA & THEATRE

Years later Josh and Leila – now old - take tea together. Coincidentally Josh’s protective sanatorium cell is next to Ray’s and they have just – together – revived once again the children’s play, this time with the inmates of the sanatorium. They reflect on their career and lives together. The inference here is that perhaps, just maybe, Ray (the narrator) has confused the play he just saw in the Sanatorium with the one they all hoped to see happen one day in New York, in the sky, and up into the universe.

Seafroggys

09-28-2006, 02:05 PM

Now that is some crazy ****.

Seriously. And if its that crazy, you know its gonna kick complete ***. :thumb:

wanderer

09-29-2006, 02:02 PM

There's now video available of ITA show (Virgin Festival, Baltimore) with Jack White/Flaming Lips...

http://www.intheattic.tv/watch/

Also here is reviews of Rachel/Pete/Simon/Rose Hill Drive did small show at HOB this week

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From twt.com regarding last night's HOB show:

Wow!!!! I think that tonights show at the HOB in Chicago wasn't advertised too well as the site was pretty empty.

Pete put on a clinic in Chicago tonight!!!!

It was an inpromptu "In The Attic" performance and it opened with a set from Simon Townshend!!! He introduced a new song followed by Girl In New York and The Way It Is.

Rachel then introduced a young country band......a great singer playing guitar and his very young brother on drums. They played a couple of their songs and then Pete came out and played a country song with them! I thought it was cool how Pete stayed back in the shadows and didnt' steal these kids stage.

These kids were in awe of being on the same stage with Pete....but Pete had a good feel for the situation and stayed back in the shadows.

Pete then did his own solo show with a country song that I didn't recognized followed by Let's See Action and an advanced version of Endless Wire.

Pete was in a jovial mood to the very small crowd tonight in Chicago.

Then Rose Hill Drive hit the stage. This is a very promising up and
coming band. They were loud and powerful!!!!

Then the singer (who also plays the base) said...."I want to introduce Pete Townshend to the stage......I can't believe I even just said that"

And Pete sort of stayed behind in the background playing with this young band. The guys in the band were pretty much in awe of being on a stage and playing with a legend.

Then they all went into "Young Man Blues"!!!!!

Wow!!! This was an amazing version of Young Man Blues that went on into an extended jam that lasted for 15 minutes or so.

Pete was showing these kids how it's supposed to be done during thie version of Young Man Blues. He was absolutely on fire and the guys from Rose Hill Drive seemed awe struck!!!!!

I'm hoping that a video of this version of Young Man Blues that was performed tonight shows up sometime!!!!

Pete just kept showing up all night long with different bands....in addition to his own set.

And the crowd was very small. Weird. I think it wasn't promoted well. How often do you get to see Pete performing to a very small crowd??? It was an awesome night!!!!!!

The night closed with a group singing of "I'm One".

A great night in Chicago!!!!!!!

Where the heck was everyone????? Not often that you'll get to see Pete in such an intimate atmosphere....

WHO HEAVEN in Chicago Tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just got home from the In the Attic performance tonite. For those of you in Chicago that missed this and for those of you unable to attend, you missed something magical tonite!

The Chicago House of Blues (the original HOB) is tiny, holding about 1200 people for standing only events. This night, seating was available which probably cut down the capacity to about 800 and the event did NOT sell out!! I estimated about 600 people there. Most I talked to did not even know this was happening until a few days ago, and if you don't keep up on Rachel's web site you wouldn't have known about it. I was about 10 feet from the stage, dead center. This venue feels like bands are literally playing in your family room and the sound is superb!

Rachel was the host and she was looking VERY hot. Tight leather pants with an embroidered skeleton head on her butt (which I believe matches those skeleton heads on Pete's scarf) with a vlack almost micro top....very sexy.

This is Rachel Fuller's event but it was dominated by Pete. Rachel selected the other artists and included on the bill tonite were (If I miss on the exact order of performers forgive me):

Simon Townshend who opened the 2 hour and fiteen minute event by playing 3 ( I believe) of his own songs. I happened to meet Simon outside the venue before it began while he was having a smoke and had a chance to say hello. Simon's set was played alone on electric and was a great way to start.

Rachel then introduced Willie Mason, a very young performer who Rachel fancies, who performed about 4 of his own songs. If you were to close your eyes you would swear you were hearing Johnny Cash from 40years ago. He was very good. All acoustic backed by his brother on drums. He then Introduced Pete who played a final song with him, with Pete playing rhythm acoustic.

It was now Pete's turn and I must say it was magical. When the applause died before he began playing he said "thanks for comimg out" I and some others yelled to him " Thank you for coming" He answered back, tongue in cheek, "...I was forced to come (by Rachel) but then again I like to being forced..." which drew a laugh. He was animated, engaging and told a story I had never heard before about his meeting one of the guys in the Flying Burrito Brothers in 1969 in California shortly after he finished Tommy. He was conversant and reminded me very much of Harry Chapin who often engaged in story telling about his life during his performances. It felt like one on one not like you were sitting with 600 other people.
Petes set included (all acoustic):

Greyhound Girl- (after performing it told a story about when he was a boy and of his father's crippled greyhound that he hoped he could nurse back to health and return to racing. Unfortunately, Pete conveyed he and the dog were on a London bus in the open air rear of the vehicle and while holding the dog it took off on Pete apparently seeing a cat or something and hence no more dog. (Very funny stuff)

Blue Red and Grey
In the Ether (accompanied by Rachel on piano)
EndlessWire
and LET"S SEE ACTION alone on acoustic!

Rachel then took the stage and played:
-Cigarettes and Housework
-It's a mother ****er (a cover of The Eeels song)
-Just Breathe accompanied by Pete on Acoustic
Rachel sings like an angel; a gorgeous voice and she is very funny and gregarious (with a mouth like a truck driver) and at one point admonished Pete when he was teasing her saying "...good thing for you I am not on stage with you in The WHo playing those tambourines" and in repsonse Pete said "I told you I was forced here but then she put on those tight leather trousers and I had to follow..."

Mikey Cuthbert then played one of his tunes

Next up was a young group Rachel introduced named Rose Hill Drive
I must say they were terrific! A stripped down three piece group, pure rock no bull**** and their lead guitarist was exceptional!! I am going to pick up one of their CD's (later in the show, Rachel announced they will be opening for The WHo at 4 California dates. I highly reccomend not missing them).
They played 3 of their own songs which really rocked and then their lead singer/ bassist said " I'd like to introduce Pete Townshend who is going to help us play this next song.......I don't ****ing believe I am standing here say ing that!" With that Pete picked up his Red Fender and played with the boys. After finishing and to everyones astonishment the riffs of YOUNG MAN BLUES came out of Pete's guitar and is was off to the races, with vocals provided by RHD's lead singer and the CROWD.....I think it was about a 10 minute jam with Pete and Rose Hill Drive's lead guitarist trading back and forth one playing rhythm and one playing lead and so on back and forth...it was unbelieveable and incredibly tight. The place went nuts and I heard people saying this is magic and I can't believe what I am hearing. To Pete's credit he kept up with the youngsters and at one point was totally getting into it and started to get in his zone. These kids were smiling ear to ear playing with him and you could tell they would have done this all night. It was really special and this moment would have been totally lost in a large venue.

The final song of the evening involved all performers singing with Rose Hill Drive playing and Pete on Acoustic.........I AM ONE.

Again, this was a magic night...the only way I can describe it....a once in a life time... and in some ways felt like a passing of the torch with the age difference very apparent between Pete and the other performers but the music transcended the time and age difference.

After seeing The Who Monday night and now this performance I can honestly say I think I enjoyed tonite more. No it was not The WHo but I think it was something very special. After tonite, this week actually, I don't believe I can see another Who perfomance, this was too perfect. I almost feel sorry for the other cities left on the tour....CLEARLY the best of The Who and Pete may have been left in Chicago!

So let's see, Simon, Mikey, Rachel, Willie Mason, Rosehill Drive, and of course Pete for over 2 hours in an intimate venue, 10 feet from the stage for $90.00 Bucks!!!!
I CALL THAT A BARGAIN..the best I ever had!!!

Thanks Rachel!

PS-I Understand ITA will also being doing this in SEATLLE for those of you up their don't miss it! This Chicago show should also be up for viewing ON ITA soon! But you had to be there!!