The Who

[Seafroggys]

Moon will prevail in the polls.

[JohnXDoe]

^Silly drumming polls. Or perhaps silly voters. Can you imagine anyone so deaf, dumb, and blind that they would even consider a different drummer? That would make them stupid, too, WTF?

*shakes head in pity*

[Lunch]

Moon will have a hard time beating Peart, because all metal fans like Peart too.

[JohnXDoe]

Peart is useless outside of Rush. What a cliche. Neil Peart, lol. The guy is a good drummer. But flash and technique is not everything in rock n roll. And here again lies one of the main arguments in rock n roll once again. Does superior technical ability make you a better musician then those without the same level of it. IMO, no, it does not. Is Joe Satriani a better guitarist then Chuck Berry? Is Neil Peart a better drummer then Keith Moon? Not in their wildest wet dreams. Unfortunatly the reasons for this are lost on many. Especially metal fans who think it's all about speed, accuracy, and precision. How very boring.....


EDIT: It's great to see all the Who thread regulars giving Moon a boost in the voting. United we are strong. And I'm breaking out my alt accounts for final voting. :p

[Lunch]

I have a great deal of respect for some of these incredibly technical drummers (Carl Palmer, for example), but in general I agree with you. As I said in the voting thread, a great deal of people with some ability can pick up sticks and practice rudiments, theory, counting, etc. until they become great drummers. No one can pick a pair of sticks and become Keith Moon.

[JohnXDoe]

Moon had flair, style, and originality. I've been listening to the Young Vic album and his playing is amazing. And yes, even on a technical level. His drummimg is superb. It's loose, it swings, it rises and falls, it becomes an intricate part of the song without getting in the way of the song. Keith Moon was more then those things you mention in your above post. More then rudiments, theory, and counting. He was in fact a brilliant drummer, and rare for a drummer, a musician. He was like a jazz drummer in a rock band. Free flowing, improvisational, and yet with a method to his madness. I really can't say enough about him. And the Young Vic recordings just do more to convince me.

[PinkFreud]

....I voted for Jarzombek...

But only because I knew Moon would go through and Jarzombek has a chance to get the fifth spot and he deserves it.

That Young Vic performance is tops though. Absolutely great.

[JohnXDoe]

^We need your vote in the finals, man. :(

[PinkFreud]

Oh when push comes to shove, I'll vote for Moon. For sure.

[MidnightRider]

I went with Moon, I think he really deserves it. Like Lunch said, there'll be plenty more technically skilled drummers to come, but there'll never be another Keith.

[Lunch]

Even if based on nothing else, Moon would deserve his spot among the top just because of his stamina, energy, force, and drive. I've never heard anything like that, so powerful and so constant.

[Tusk]

Yea.. cause thats exactly what it is that seperates the gods of rock drumming from the players Lunch. Moon was just... superior.. he had raw power, poise, ingenuity.. a lot of drummers can claim to being fast and 'technical.' But could they claim to filling stadiums with over a hundred thousand people? Doubt it.. could they claim to aiding the founding of an entire genre? Not likely... (unless his name is Bonham, of course ;))

Peart is fantastic.. he really is, upper eschelon. He just doesnt have that finite, indescribable quality that Moon had.

[Lunch]

You have to give a serious nod to a guy like Moon who generates as much, if not more, percussive drive than the two drummers from Allman Brothers.

[robo2448]

I voted Moon and I'll be voting him through all the way. Ginger Baker gives him some competition, but I think I'll be going Moon all the way because I've been really listening to The Who obsessively recently. I love to completely ignore Pete, John, and Roger and just listen to Moon. Live At Leeds is just amazing drum fill after amazing drum fill for 2 and a half hours. And Moon never lets up. Just amazing.

I've been really listening to The Who a lot lately. Last week I had 100 listens of them on my computer which is the highest total that I've ever had for one band in a week. And this week I've been listening to the Young Vic and Leeds a lot to compare them so I expect a similar total.

Oh yeah and Sparks off Live at Leeds is amazing. Amazing Journey > Sparks leaves me speechless every time.

[Lunch]

I always listen to them too much, although my Last.fm doesn't usually show it. I usually listen to the Who while driving.

[robo2448]

I always listen to them too much, although my Last.fm doesn't usually show it. I usually listen to the Who while driving.

Yeah Live At Leeds is one of my top driving albums. I feel like such a rebel blasting it out. But then again, I also drive while listening to Simon and Garfunkel all the time too, so my driving music tastes are pretty weird.

I'm listening to Leeds right now and I'm happy.

[Lunch]

While driving I usually listen to the Who, or jam bands. Both make my favorite driving music. The Who just tend to be so awesome and ***-kicking that it's great rock 'n roll to drive too.

Edit: Haha I'm listening to the Young Vic show :obsessed:

[robo2448]

For some reason, I really, really love driving to Simon and Garfunkel. It makes absolutely no sense. Simon and Garfunkel are awesome, but I don't think anyone thinks of them as typical "driving" music. But I love listening to them in the car. Pretty weird.

But after them, my favorites are probably Live At Leeds and Cream/Canned Heat/other blues-rock band.

*Listening to 16 minute My Generation:cool:*

Roger is one of the few singers who is actually better live than in the studio. His raw power live is awesome. Especially on this song.

[JohnXDoe]

Yea.. cause thats exactly what it is that seperates the gods of rock drumming from the players Lunch. Moon was just... superior.. he had raw power, poise, ingenuity.. a lot of drummers can claim to being fast and 'technical.' But could they claim to filling stadiums with over a hundred thousand people? Doubt it.. could they claim to aiding the founding of an entire genre? Not likely... (unless his name is Bonham, of course ;))

Peart is fantastic.. he really is, upper eschelon. He just doesnt have that finite, indescribable quality that Moon had.
I feel the same way. Moon was a gifted drummer. What's interesting to me is I appreciate drummers who stay out of the way. When it comes to rock n roll drummers I'm as much a Charlie Watts/Ringo Starr "less is more" kind of guy as anything else. I also like Martin Chambers from The Pretenders, Clem Burke from Blondie, Bill Berry (formerly of REM) Dave Grohl, and Billy Bonebrake from X. Those are busier drummers then Watts and Starr, of course. But you get the picture. They are not annoying and intrusive. They are not "look at me" style drummers.

Moon on the other hand would seem to be the exact type of drummer that would annoy me. But he doesn't. No soloing, no grand standing, no showing off or explosive displays of virtuosity. He just got behind the kit and played. And he did it brilliantly. Always finding his place in the song, flailing away like a madman, and staying out of the way. He was indeed the perfect drummer.

On another note, here is a site I came across that concerns itself with everything Who when it comes to specifics about instrumentation and equipment and what not. Also has some nice photos and a lot of interesting reads and information, technical and otherwise:

http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/index.html

[Lunch]

I've found that site before, they had so much information on the drumsets Keith used over various points in the group's career. And the pictures are great.

[Tusk]

Moon could be a wildman onstage, but I see exactly what you're saying. Unfortunately, I dont have a live Who DVD yet to really explore those depths. :-/

I actually really like Ringo's drumming as well not only because of its understatement, but because when he DOES play his azz off, it makes his playing that much better. Tomorrow Never Knows and Helter Skelter being famous examples of that. I see where you're coming from saying Moon was understated, but I'd say that he only chose to be that way in studio albums... cause this live stuff.. he shows off his muscles in Live at Leeds, thats for sure.

And actually, you already answered the exact question I came on here to ask.. if Moon ever did any live solo's, cause I thought that would rock, and wanted to give it a listen if he ever had. Cobwebs and Strange will have to do. :p

Here's another question though (which doesnt really belong in here, but while ive got your attention and all).. you're in a band.. and you've got good taste in music (we see that 'cause you're in here!), do you guys take Who as influences? Where can I listen to a song?

[robo2448]

There is a video of Moon playing a drum solo (the goldfish video. Even the best drummers get hungry:lol:) but honestly, it's not that good by Moon's standards. For a Moon drum solo, just listen to Live at Leeds and block out all the other instruments. And there you go, 2 hour drum solo.

JXD that site is awesome. Thanks a lot. Great info. And great pics too, some cool Pete windmill pics.

Hey I have question. Did Keith play Uncle Ernie in the Tommy movie? I think I heard that. I really need to see that movie. Even though it's supposed to be terrible.

[JohnXDoe]

And actually, you already answered the exact question I came on here to ask.. if Moon ever did any live solo's, cause I thought that would rock, and wanted to give it a listen if he ever had. Cobwebs and Strange will have to do. :p

Here's another question though (which doesnt really belong in here, but while ive got your attention and all).. you're in a band.. and you've got good taste in music (we see that 'cause you're in here!), do you guys take Who as influences? Where can I listen to a song?
Moon never solo'd. At least not as part of The Who. I did see him soloing on Towser TV on Pete's website some months back performing for some school kids. He was accompanied by a bongo player, I believe. He was amazing. Very rythmic and soulful. I'm not sure if this is the solo robo is talking about.

So far as a band, I'm not in one anymore. My last band was almost two years ago, although I do fill in on bass for my friends wedding band sometimes. They're pretty good and it's a fun gig to do. The peoples are always happy at weddings. :)

JXD that site is awesome. Thanks a lot. Great info. And great pics too, some cool Pete windmill pics. Hey I have question. Did Keith play Uncle Ernie in the Tommy movie? I think I heard that. I really need to see that movie. Even though it's supposed to be terrible.
Yeah, I have just scratched the surface of that site. It's really cool. That Pictures Of Lily kit of Keiths is beautiful. Really nice photos of it on that site, too. And yes, I believe Moon did play Uncle Ernie in Tommy....

[shirodead]

There is a video of Moon playing a drum solo (the goldfish video. Even the best drummers get hungry:lol:) .
hah! I saw that too, but not the whole video, only till he says that line. What happens after he says that anyway...?

[Riva]

The Tommy movie played at midnight here awhile ago. I didn't see it, I had to work in the morning. I also heard it was fairly bad.

[JohnXDoe]

I've never cared for it. I've never really cared for Tommy as a "concept" album, either. I just think it's silly. And the film as a whole is just as. Although it did garner many good reviews as a film musical, it got some bad, too. I suppose the reaction was mixed, from what I can gather on the internet. I've never sat through it all. Just bits and peices. And when I do see it's going to be on somewhere I just kind of think 'WTF is that all about and what the hell were they thinking?' Pete and his fuc.kin' art. "I must do film and stage! BROADWAY CALLS!!" What a wanker....

Seriously though, I can take Tommy on a song to song basis. For about 50 or 60 percent of it. So imagine how I feel about a full scale production. Meh...

Now Quadrophenia is another story. That film is excellent. All reviews you will see on it will say as much. Set in Brighton Beach and with it's feet on the ground. Good drama. Story of a kid. Could be any kid anywhere. Fights, chicks, sex, drugs, drink, family problems, peer pressure, life, death, it's all there in very dramatic fashion. Sting plays "The Face" (the Bell Boy of Quadrophenia) and it has lot's of great Who music with a Quadrophenia soundtrack that was remixed by John. And not an Elton John or curly top Roger Daltrey in sight.

[Happy]

So Tommy's not even worth checking out?

[JohnXDoe]

Well, yeah. It's worth checking out. I've never even seen it through. I just object to it in general. :p

[rockinbass17]

I actually enjoyed the Tommy movie. Yea, it was extremely cheesey at points, and the music wasn't as good as what was on the album, but it was enjoyable. Although, you might have to be a really big Who fan to enjoy it.

[Happy]

I'll give it a try. I got the Who greatest hits CD for Christmas and I highly enjoyed it.

[Seafroggys]

blegh, a greatest hits CD? I hate those! Never get any of the good stuff on that.

YOu haven't even heard Tommy if thats all you have. Just buy/rent/borrow the CD from somebody, and prepared to be blown away.

I saw the movie first, before I was actually really into the Who. It was okay, but I didn't really know the music well so it didn't connect to me.

Oh yeah, as far as album wise, Tommy > Quadrophenia.

[Ephemeral]

Tommy is needed!

[JohnXDoe]

Oh yeah, as far as album wise, Tommy > Quadrophenia.
Tommy > Quadrophenia, though both are good.
:rolleyes: :smash:

[Happy]

blegh, a greatest hits CD? I hate those! Never get any of the good stuff on that.

YOu haven't even heard Tommy if thats all you have. Just buy/rent/borrow the CD from somebody, and prepared to be blown away.

I saw the movie first, before I was actually really into the Who. It was okay, but I didn't really know the music well so it didn't connect to me.

Oh yeah, as far as album wise, Tommy > Quadrophenia.
Heh, I asked my Uncle if I could borrow his Who cd's but he said "they never leave the house". :(

[JohnXDoe]

Heh, I asked my Uncle if I could borrow his Who cd's but he said "they never leave the house". :(
Your Uncle is a wise and smart man. How about if I buy you Quadrophenia? Have you ever heard it? Or perhaps Live At Leeds, because I'm pretty sure you like the heavy stuff. Hell, why not buy you both? I'd love to help you get into The Who. I did this recently with Pink Freud with X. I'll just need your email, and I trust you with my password to where I buy music. That simple. And I assume you have a high speed connection for download....Just post back and let me know with an email address and I''ll send you the info and details....

[Happy]

Really?
Wow, thanks I never thought anyone would do something like this.

jevgenji_hershplinikov@hotmail.co.uk

EDIT: I keep putting .com at the end of my email :mad:

[robo2448]

Yay another Who convert.

Tommy is awesome but just to warn you in advance, give it a few listens. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but when I got it for Christmas two years ago, my initial reaction was something like "What the **** is this?" But then I listened to it a second time the next day and loved it. And I love it more and more everytime I listen to it.

[rockinbass17]

True, I found Tommy unusual and at points, unlistenable when I first got it, but then it grew on me and now I worship it as an incredible album. I woulnd;t suggest starting off with it, though.

And just for the record, I believe Quadrophenia > Tommy.

[JohnXDoe]

Really?
Wow, thanks I never thought anyone would do something like this.

jevgenji_hershplinikov@hotmail.co.uk

EDIT: I keep putting .com at the end of my email :mad:
The Email is headed overseas as I type. So be on the lookout for it. :)

[Seafroggys]

i just listened to Tommy today for the first time in months. I usually just listen to individual songs on Winamp, but decided to pop the CD in and enjoy.

And enjoy I did :thumb:

[robo2448]

The only way to listen to Tommy is all the way through. That's the reason I didn't love Tommy the first time I heard it. It had Pinball Wizard, but no other catchy hits on it. Tommy is one of the albums that made me realize that albums don't need to be full of hits to be good. It made me start to really listen to albums all the way through.

[BigTrav415]

I still haven't listened to Tommy yet. Nor any other Who album, besides LaL.

/shoots self in face

[JohnXDoe]

i just listened to Tommy today for the first time in months. I usually just listen to individual songs on Winamp, but decided to pop the CD in and enjoy. And enjoy I did
Yeah? Well I'm just finishing Quad and am ready for another go around. :angry:

[Seafroggys]

i'll pop Quadrophenia in later....for now i have to practice drumming!

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Quadrophenia is and always will be on my Top 10 CD's list. I love me some Who.

[Lunch]

I still haven't listened to Tommy yet. Nor any other Who album, besides LaL.

/shoots self in face

/Shoots you in face.

Oh well, at least you've heard Live at Leeds, which has become probably my favorite album ever.

[JohnXDoe]

I listened to Leeds three times last nite. It's a stunning rock album. I prefer the version without Tommy in the middle. Although I do much prefer Tommy live, it seems to interupt the album unless skipped. I think that's because I grew up listening to the original vinyl version and always thought of it as short and perfect. Now I think the same of the regular expanded version. Happy Jack, Tattoo, Substitute, it's all good. Heaven And Hell. Never have liked Magic Bus. Even live. And I also have a mix with an abbreviated Tommy in the middle consisting of my favorite live cuts from that album. 10 cuts in all. So that's a good slab of it.

[Lunch]

I like the deluxe edition with Tommy on the second disc. That way you can listen to Tommy in whole without it interupting the other performace.

[JohnXDoe]

I gotta check that out. I'm listening to Tommy right now. Eyesight To The Blind. Great groove, there.

My music service finally got the Deluxe Who's Next in. Too late for us, but we got it thanks to Tusk, anyway. That thing is phenomenal.

[Lunch]

I remember when I first bought the Deluxe Live at Leeds I listened to the Tommy disc everyday after school for probably a month.

[JohnXDoe]

That's when you know something has really got you. I can't do that unless I'm really compelled to. Those albums are few and far between. For me Quad was one, and Face Dances as well. Because Face Dances is how I got into The Who as a kid. When I was 15 it just sounded great to me. I still like that record a lot. I wrote a blurb about it. I was kind. :)

[Lunch]

It wasn't even something I thought about doing, it became a routine for those couple weeks. It was like "Oh, I'm home from school, so now I'll put on Tommy from LaL". That's only happened to me with a couple albums, ever.

Tommy has been with me for my whole life, literally. I was obsessed with it as a kid, even when I was a baby. My parents told me that I wouldn't go anywhere in the car without crying unless the Overture was playing.

[RNR]

:lol:

I prefer Quadrophenia to Tommy but I certainly obsessed enough over Tommy. Good times. I even tried playing pinball with ear plugs and a blindfold. Freaking tough.

[Lunch]

Of course it is. Not everyone can be a messiah.

[JohnXDoe]

It wasn't even something I thought about doing, it became a routine for those couple weeks. It was like "Oh, I'm home from school, so now I'll put on Tommy from LaL". That's only happened to me with a couple albums, ever.

Tommy has been with me for my whole life, literally. I was obsessed with it as a kid, even when I was a baby. My parents told me that I wouldn't go anywhere in the car without crying unless the Overture was playing.
Wow Lunch, you were born a Who fan, WTF? :amaze:

That's a great story. I was first widely exposed to them by Odds & Sods, of all albums. I just kinda went, "Hmm". I wasn't crazy about Now I'm A Farmer. I thought "what the hell"?. But they just grew on me like fungus, as they say. Then it was Face Dances and the film version of TKAA. That's what made it click. Pure insanity. I grabbed Quad and a Townshend solo album, and that was that. LAL, A Quick One, Who's Next. Hooked like a junkie. :(

[Lunch]

Yea, courtesy of my dad I've been listening to them forever.

[JohnXDoe]

Good thing you aren't a rebelilous son, then. If so you might be listening to Doris Day. :smash:

[Lunch]

I had nothing to rebel against. My parent's generation had already done all the necessary rebelling.

[JohnXDoe]

I had nothing to rebel against. My parent's generation had already done all the necessary rebelling.
These days it's fashionable to rebel against the rebellion. And then when that's over. rebel against that. I'd rather just chill, myself. :smoke:

For me, these days rebellion is getiing up a half hour late for work :-\

[Lunch]

We'll never be as awesome as the Who I guess.

/completely useless bump

[BillyBonebrake]

^No we will not, Lunch my good man. But I did break an acoustic guitar against a tree when I was 11. :angry:

[Lunch]

That's closer than I've ever come.

/n00b

[MidnightRider]

I've got an old POS acoustic I got for free, next time I go to a party I'm gonna bring it and get someone to video tape me beating the hell out of it. I've always wanted to do that.

[BillyBonebrake]

That's closer than I've ever come.

/n00b
Well get to it, man. I here they sell cheap guitars at Toys 'R Us. Very smashable.

You ever see those pics of Pete putting his guitars back together after a good smashing? Those are great. I love the stories of how they were smashing a lot more money in equipment then they were making money. That's funny as hell. "We made 200 pounds and owe 500", lol....

[PinkFreud]

^No we will not, Lunch my good man. But I did break an acoustic guitar against a tree when I was 11. :angry:
What'd you get banned for?

My friend let me break his Fender Squire when he got his Epiphone LP. I actually used a hammer for some of it. Broke the tuning pegs off and dinged up the body quite a bit. It's pretty freaking hard to break up an electric guitar.

[BillyBonebrake]

What'd you get banned for?
1 day for posting in a R&M "Beatles or Zeppelin" thread posted by a n00b. I had two posts and was banned by Superpeer, I believe. Riva or Jom wouldn't of done it. Well, maybe Jom would. But I doubt it.

Obviously Superpoop is unaware of my greatness, lol....:smash:

[JohnXDoe]

I'm back. :wave:

And yeah, Pink. It is tough to bust a guitar up. Those things are built sturdy. Even a good acoustic is up to a challenge. The bodies are incredibly strong.

[JohnXDoe]

Hey guys, did you hear the news?































































































































Love ain't for keeping....:upset:


























In all seriousness, though. Up bright and early and am listening to the Young Vic gig. I think this may be the best live version (or otherwise) of Pure And Easy I have ever heard. Roger handles the vocals great, especially up top. Really nice. :)

[Ephemeral]

I finally bought Quadrophenia, after having heard it before a few times.

I got it on sale. I call that a bargain. The best I ever had. :p

[robo2448]

Hey Lunch, do you know anything about American tour dates/when tickets go on sale yet?

[pigonthewing82]

Hey Lunch, do you know anything about American tour dates/when tickets go on sale yet?

I don't think so. I think the tour is going to be in the fall so maybe in the summer. I also heard that the Who are going to put out a 12 minute mini rock oprea. That should be intersting.

[Lunch]

Hey Lunch, do you know anything about American tour dates/when tickets go on sale yet?

No, the latest update I've seen covers the European dates, up to about the end of July. Everything I've heard says the US tour is scheduled to start in September.

[robo2448]

I guess that's good for me. I'll have college applications and all that stuff to do, but I'm going to be away all summer, so it's better that they don't come here until the fall.

I'm listening to Tommy now:cool:

np- The Acid Queen

Everytime I listen to this album I think of Moon playing Uncle Ernie in the movie. I really need to see that.

[zabbit82]

I finally bought Quadrophenia, after having heard it before a few times.

I got it on sale. I call that a bargain. The best I ever had. :p

Good call man. On both counts.

I should buy a little guitar at Toy's R Us, and get someone to tape me smashing the hell out of it.

[pigonthewing82]

I really want to smash a guitar on stage. When I get a new guitar at my next show I plan on "retiring" my current guitar.

[zabbit82]

I think I could only smash a guitar at the end of a show after I played a Who cover, even if it was the one I would get at Toys R Us. Picture this, I'd play Won't Get Fooled Again with my band then at the end, I'd try to bash the hell out of it till the thing's in bits and pieces.

Man... that would be awesome...

[pigonthewing82]

I think I could only smash a guitar at the end of a show after I played a Who cover, even if it was the one I would get at Toys R Us. Picture this, I'd play Won't Get Fooled Again with my band then at the end, I'd try to bash the hell out of it till the thing's in bits and pieces.

Man... that would be awesome...

Yeah actually if I had it my way I would want to smash it at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again. I really want to but I probally can't with the band I'm in. Were a Clash tribute band so I think the other members would want to stick to the Clash covers. Though there are plenty of Clash songs that are great instrument smashing songs. I would love to smash it at the end of Clash City Rockers or Know Your Rights.

[Guitarist_]

i dont know much about the who but i recently got into them. my friend gave me the greatest hits (?) and i loved most songs. Are the who still doing tours? because they would have had to replace keith moon unfortunately...but neway i see european dates but do u think they will hit australia?

[Seafroggys]

replacing Keith Moon is WAY old news. How about replacing John Entwislte as well? Thats much more recent.

[Guitarist_]

like i said i dont know much about the history of the band

[Shady Ultima]

If I had been able to see The Who at any time, it woulda been at woodstock(almost 20 years before I was born though) Too bad Entwhistle died. I'd love to have been able to see him. He completely revolutionized the bass.

[Lunch]

No way I'd see them at Woodstock. That was probably their worst show in the 1969-1970 run of greatness. I'd definitely go see them at Leeds, February 14th 1970. Complete ownage of all other concerts.

[Seafroggys]

You never know, there might have been way better concert then Leeds that weren't recorded.

[Lunch]

From what we know about and everything I've read, I'd definitely go to the Leeds show. But you're right.

[JohnXDoe]

Yeah, from what I hear Leeds was simply typical Who. They did that every night. Leeds just happened to capture it. Which is to say they were rockin' every night. Makes Leeds and everything else all the more impressive, IMO. Just another night of great music from the greatest live band ever.

[Shady Ultima]

I have the Live at Leeds Cd... it's hard to tell how a band is live from just hearing it.

[Lunch]

Uh.....

Hearing a band is usually the best way to tell how they sound. I understand the element of the visual stage show that can't be captured on audio CD, but still.

[Shady Ultima]

That's what I mean... They SOUND great live, but that's not the show. I mean, I have a group of friends who are a great, great band. They play a lot of Metallica tunes, and they get em perfect. But the have no stage show, so they're kinda boring to watch. Just because a band sounds good, doesn't mean they are good

[wanderer]

They played lot's more balls to wall shows than Leeds. It's not special show.

By the way, Pete played nice song yestyrday on In The Attic show that was written around the time of Relay ?.

[Lunch]

That's what I mean... They SOUND great live, but that's not the show. I mean, I have a group of friends who are a great, great band. They play a lot of Metallica tunes, and they get em perfect. But the have no stage show, so they're kinda boring to watch. Just because a band sounds good, doesn't mean they are good

Have you evern seen Who live footage? They are pumped full of energy and really exciting to watch. I've never seen footage from the Leeds concert, but I have no reason to think it would be different from any of their other shows from that period.

[Shady Ultima]

To be honest, I have only seen about a 3 second video one time, when John Entwhistle died. Any recommendations?

[Kaleidoscope Eyes]

How's the proposed tour going? Any news about what the dates will be?

[Lunch]

To be honest, I have only seen about a 3 second video one time, when John Entwhistle died. Any recommendations?

The Kids Are Alright and the Isle of Wight DVDs are both must-haves for the Who fan.

How's the proposed tour going? Any news about what the dates will be?

As far as I know, nothing on the American leg yet. The European dates are all scheduled and run to about the end of July though.

[JohnXDoe]

That's what I mean... They SOUND great live, but that's not the show. I mean, I have a group of friends who are a great, great band. They play a lot of Metallica tunes, and they get em perfect. But the have no stage show, so they're kinda boring to watch. Just because a band sounds good, doesn't mean they are good
Well The Who are not a metal band. Nor do they need to do anything special to be exciting onstage but play the music they played. Although the Who are one of the pinnacle live acts in rock history. And that's not fanboy stuff, it's simply a recognized consensus. They were and are a very physical band. In sound and performance. Hell, John Entwhistle just stood in one place his whole career. But he sounded like thunder. That"s the whole point. Of course you are going to have a performance, but a "show" is not required. You want a show, go to Broadway. Or an Ozzy gig....

[robo2448]

No way I'd see them at Woodstock. That was probably their worst show in the 1969-1970 run of greatness. I'd definitely go see them at Leeds, February 14th 1970. Complete ownage of all other concerts.

Yeah at Woodstock I believe their drinks were spiked with acid. So naturally, it affected their performance. Leeds is where it's at.

I've heard that when the record company approached Pete about making a live album, he just gave them Leeds and tossed all the tapes of American shows into the fire. I don't know whether to believe that, but Pete is crazy enough to do it. But on the bootleg website I found last week, there were some fantastic '69-'70 shows and from what I heard, they could stand up to Leeds.

[Maggot Dream]

I don't know, I kind of like some of the footage from Woodstock on The Kids Are Alright, expecially Sparks.

Having said that, Live at Leeds is pretty much superior to everything, no contest. IOW is good, but I enjoy the Leeds performance far more. They seemed more 'on' at Leeds than at IOW.

[rockinbass17]

I would definatly want to see LAL, but perhaps a show later on so I could hear some 70's material as well.
Bah, if I was alive in the 60's-70's I would go to every Who show I could. I would've followed them around.

[JohnXDoe]

They played lot's more balls to wall shows than Leeds. It's not special show. By the way, Pete played nice song yestyrday on In The Attic show that was written around the time of Relay ?.
Damn. I missed that yesterday. Perhaps they are replaying it? I like that show. Pete's girlfriend is funny and cool and a little sexy. Pete, old dog...
Yeah at Woodstock I believe their drinks were spiked with acid. So naturally, it affected their performance. Leeds is where it's at.

I've heard that when the record company approached Pete about making a live album, he just gave them Leeds and tossed all the tapes of American shows into the fire. I don't know whether to believe that, but Pete is crazy enough to do it. But on the bootleg website I found last week, there were some fantastic '69-'70 shows and from what I heard, they could stand up to Leeds.
Yeah. Everything was spiked at Woodstock. The Who didn't know, but I think they were pissed. That's the thing. The Who gave two craps about hippies, Woodstock, or peace and love. They didn't even pretend to care. Roger with all his stupid posing in the fringe and the hair. And it never fit Rog. But he was the frontman, so there you go. I mean Pete wore mechanics overalls and Doc Martens. And this was well before Docs were fashionable. They were english work shoes, plain and simple. And Keith and John were just weird. What a band.

So yeah, they hated that whole scene that day and just wanted out.
I don't know, I kind of like some of the footage from Woodstock on The Kids Are Alright, expecially Sparks.

Having said that, Live at Leeds is pretty much superior to everything, no contest. IOW is good, but I enjoy the Leeds performance far more. They seemed more 'on' at Leeds than at IOW.
Yeah, the Leeds show is just a bit more lively. They are more on, as you say. I think venue has something to do with it. Don't forget, Woodstock and IOW are huge festivals. Leeds was recorded at a University Hall. Can you imagine the difference if you were there? I think in a small space The Who just own, simple as that. That would be like getting hit by a truck to be up near the stage.

[Lunch]

A very good truck, not a life-threatening truck.

[pigonthewing82]

I don't know, I kind of like some of the footage from Woodstock on The Kids Are Alright, expecially Sparks.

Yeah my favorite verison of Sparks comes from Woodstock. To be honest I've never heard anything wrong with their Woodstock preformance. I mean its not Live at Leeds but its not bad.

[Seafroggys]

yeah I don't think Woodstock was that bad. In fact, I prefer "See Me Feel Me" from woodstock then LaL or IOW just from the composition/arrangement standpoint. True that the first line was rather flat, and that Roger completely dropped out the second to the last verse leaving only Pete and John to sing with their thin vocals, and true that it actually sped up in tempo (an aspect I actually think works better with this song then the steady tempo), but I liked the Woodstock version more from a musical standpoint, not a technical standpoint.

[pigonthewing82]

yeah I don't think Woodstock was that bad. In fact, I prefer "See Me Feel Me" from woodstock then LaL or IOW just from the composition/arrangement standpoint. True that the first line was rather flat, and that Roger completely dropped out the second to the last verse leaving only Pete and John to sing with their thin vocals, and true that it actually sped up in tempo (an aspect I actually think works better with this song then the steady tempo), but I liked the Woodstock version more from a musical standpoint, not a technical standpoint.

Yeah I feel the same way. I always look at music from a musical stand point. Its rare I look at music from a technical standpoint. Sloppy playing like Hendrix used to do sometimes really doesn't bother me because from a musical stand point the song is still amazing give or take a few errors. Why throw away a songs entire credibility because of a few sloppy notes or vocals.

[robo2448]

Personally I really love See Me, Feel Me at Woodstock. LaL is better if you're listening just for the music, but I might prefer the Woodstock version just because of the environment. I haven't heard anything else from their Woodstock gig, but the general concensus seems to be that See Me, Feel Me was good but the rest of it is very subpar.

[Seafroggys]

i've heard Summertime Blues, Sparks, and Pinball Wizard from Woodstock....it was all okay. Sparks from LaL was better, haven't heard the other two from LaL yet, but IoW they were better.

[Lunch]

I prefer the Sparks on LaL personally, although both that an the Woodstock version are incredible.

[Tusk]

Sloppiness never really bothered me in music.. unless its glaring skill-lessness.

Ive never seen or heard Woodstock, though I do have the first 15 mins of Hendrix's set, with the Star Spangled Banner, Purple Haze.. and something else.

NP: Sparks - LaL - I dont think ill soon get tired of this..

[pigonthewing82]

Sloppiness never really bothered me in music.. unless its glaring skill-lessness.

Ive never seen or heard Woodstock, though I do have the first 15 mins of Hendrix's set, with the Star Spangled Banner, Purple Haze.. and something else.

NP: Sparks - LaL - I dont think ill soon get tired of this..

Well I think that was at the end of his set not the begining. That is my favorite Hendrix live song (Bold as Love is my favorite studio Hendrix song). That "something else" at the end of Purple Haze really is well something else. It never fails to blow me away when I hear it.

[Ephemeral]

Ahahaha

Just watching a Jimi Hendrix movie, and I'm at the part where he plays the Monteroux Pop Festival.

The producer/manager/record company guy says, 'Ah, ****. Who's bloody idea was it to have him play after the Who?!'

[JohnXDoe]

^hahahaha STUPID GUITAR PLAYERS, LOL....

No one follows The Who! :angry:

[robo2448]

Townsend felt really upstaged by Hendrix at Monterey. After the Who played a brilliant set and smashed all their instruments, Hendrix had to do something to outshine them so he lit his guitar on fire and then proceeded to pull a Townsend. Townsend was pretty pissed at Jimi and they didn't get along well at first. In fact, as soon as he heard Jimi play, he supposedly called up Clapton and said that this guy was going to put them out of business. But both of them later became good friends with Hendrix and admired him a lot. Or at least Clapton did. I'm not sure about Pete, but I'm pretty sure they did start to get along before Jimi died.

So my moronic friend tried doubting Entwistle's greatness. I showed him Entwistle's little 5:15 solo and he was blown away. I love defending The Who because it's impossible to lose.

[rockinbass17]

I saw on a documentary that Townsend was worried that Hendrix would upstage them at the festival, so when he approached Hendrix about the issue, he took it the wrong way. Hendrix thought that The Who wanted to get to the guitar-smashing first in order to claim it as their own. He got so angry that he got up on a chair, and played at Townsend, as if he were challenging him. Then he cooled off and they flipped a coin.

I'm not sure how true that is, but it's a cool story.

[Tusk]

So my moronic friend tried doubting Entwistle's greatness. I showed him Entwistle's little 5:15 solo and he was blown away. I love defending The Who because it's impossible to lose.

I didn't know Entwistle had a solo.. what's it called?

[Dragon_Prince]

You never heard My Generation? :| Firs tbass solo ever :|

omg <_<

[Lunch]

Those are really more like fills. Tusk, check out the live versions on 5:15 from any of the recent tours (Royal Albert Hall in 2000, for example). Entwistle has a pretty long solo in the middle that just blows me away.

[JohnXDoe]

Hey guys. I'm listening to TKAA and I hacked my cell phone just so I could put in Who wallpaper and a Baba 'O Riley ringtone. Life is good. :cool:
I saw on a d0cumentary that Townsend was worried that Hendrix would upstage them at the festival, so when he approached Hendrix about the issue, he took it the wrong way. Hendrix thought that The Who wanted to get to the guitar-smashing first in order to claim it as their own. He got so angry that he got up on a chair, and played at Townsend, as if he were challenging him. Then he cooled off and they flipped a coin.

I'm not sure how true that is, but it's a cool story.
Nah, that's not how it happened exactly. It was less dramatic and Townshends motives were different. Townshend simply saw an opportunity to confront Jimi about what he felt was stealing his guitar smashing bit. Which would seem childish now, but at the time when the Who were an original it makes sense that it would have to happen. At least once. Pete was polite about it, and Jimi told him where to get off. Really just had a few rude words for him and ignored him. Pissed Pete off, but hurt his feelings a bit, too.

[JohnXDoe]

I'm listening to Face Dances now. I must say I like this album quite a lot. And the bonus cuts are great. How did they keep "It's In You" and "I Like Nightmares" off of Face Dances, WTF? Especially It's In You. That's a great song. And "Somebody Saved Me" is very good, eventually landing on a Pete solo album with a somewhat different arrangement. This is good stuff.

Time to reconsider Face Dances, guys. It's held up well. And certainly it's is better then Who Are You and It's Hard, IMO.

Oh, and the live bonus cuts are great. A whole different version of "How Can You Do It Alone". It's really only the same song in name. And a great rendition of John's "The Quiet One"

[JohnXDoe]

A very good truck, not a life-threatening truck.
No. More like a magic bus, perhaps? Or a "mobile" home, maybe...

[Lunch]

I can dig the Magic Bus. I'll sell it to you for 100 English pounds. I won't take under.

I keep listening to the Young Vic show. Maybe because it's the only Who I have on my laptop, or maybe because it's so good.

[JohnXDoe]

I can dig the Magic Bus. I'll sell it to you for 100 English pounds. I won't take under.

I keep listening to the Young Vic show. Maybe because it's the only Who I have on my laptop, or maybe because it's so good.
haha

It is fairly tremendous. I listened to the entire deluxe set today. I think I'll be picking up the Tommy/Quad DVD this week. Lunch, you know The Who don't really have a proper band profile at sputnik. They deserve one. I thought you could edit your FA a bit and add it, doing away with the other. You can edit it for the latest info, or if not, I'll do it once posted. What do you think?

A few more albums need review, too. Including the RAH show. I'll be getting around to a couple. The RAH record pretty soon. Although I wish you would do it, as you might be kinder on the "special" guests....

But yeah, the profile. What do you say?

[Lunch]

Yea, sounds good to me. I have a better version of the Who FA on my other computer thast I edited a bit once I learned more about the group after I posted the original FA. Is it legit for me to just go on Sputnik and change a band's bio, or do I have to talk to someone about it first?

Edit: I see now that I am able to change it, so I'll put the FA in there and maybe edit it a few more times.

Edit 2: I submitted it so now we're waiting for Mod approval.

[Lunch]

A few more albums need review, too. Including the RAH show. I'll be getting around to a couple. The RAH record pretty soon. Although I wish you would do it, as you might be kinder on the "special" guests...

No way I'd be kinder on the special guests. I don't think they destroy the performance or anything but I never saw the point in having them and to me I know the Who could carry on an outstanding concert without all the extra festival crap anyway.

[JohnXDoe]

Great bio you put up, Lunch. That's more like it. It's most likely the best one on sputnik. And it's three or four times bigger then the Beatles, Stones, or Zeppelin bio's. Combined. We rock. :cool:

I found this pic while searching for one to replace the sputnik bio pic. It would of been perfect if not for one thing. You may already of seen this or have it in your big Who picture book. But maybe not. It's just so much is made out of an incident involving a couple of the principles in this pic, and I thought this was more like it. Real great picture.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2605/jenwhistle2ho.jpg

[pigonthewing82]

I saw The Kids Are Allright this weekend. It was so good I couldn't belive it. I really think that besides perhaps the Woodstock DVD this is the best music dvd of all time. The part at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again when the lights come on at the "YEAHHHHH is one of the best moments in rock.

[JohnXDoe]

^That is a great moment. It's funny because if you listen to the Young Vic performance when they were first working out the song at the synth break Moon and Townshend are tinkering around during it, as if they weren't really sure if just quieting down was ok. And in the end it's that quiet that eventually came to the song in concert that builds the suspense and really winds up the explosion that begins with Moons drums kicking in and that famous Daltrey scream. It is amazing.

[Seafroggys]

I saw The Kids Are Allright this weekend. It was so good I couldn't belive it. I really think that besides perhaps the Woodstock DVD this is the best music dvd of all time. The part at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again when the lights come on at the "YEAHHHHH is one of the best moments in rock.

It is. I always say that that one moment, that scream with that slow motion slide by Pete, is perhaps the single greatest moment of Rock History.

[pigonthewing82]

It is. I always say that that one moment, that scream with that slow motion slide by Pete, is perhaps the single greatest moment of Rock History.

Yeah if I had only ten minutes to show somebody who had never heard a rock song before what it was all about, I would play Won't Get Fooled Again from the Kids Are All Right. It was honestly the most visually stunning performance I've seen for except perhaps Jimi Hendrix's Wild Thing at the Montery Pop Festivle.

In fact I like that part so much I was thinking of printing this http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/EamonnMcCusker/WhoMovie05.jpg out and making one of those homemade iron on tee shrits.

[zabbit82]

Such a great sight. Somewhere in my house, I have a tape of The Kids Are Alright, and recently having seen it for the first time in years, was awestruck. Won't Get Fooled Again live, the most definitive moment in rock and roll history?

I think so.

[Dragon_Prince]

More The Who shows

JUNE
18 Brighton Centre, England
25 O2 Wireless Festival - Leeds, England
28 Bristol City Football Club, England
30 Werchter Festival - Belgium
JULY
2 Hyde Park Calling Festival - London Hyde Park, England
3 Beaulieu Motor Museum - Hampshire, England
5 Liverpool Docks, England
6 Liverpool Docks, England
8 Oxegen Festival, Dublin, Eire
9 T In The Park Festival, Scotland
11 Bonn Museumplatz, Germany
12 Berlin Wuhleide, Germany
14 Locano Moon & Stars, Switzerland
15 Sporting Club, Monte Carlo
17 Vienne Theatre Antique (near Lyon), France
18 Metz Amneville Arena, France
20 Switz - Geneva Paleo Festival
22 Lovely Days Festival, St Polten, Austria
23 Cathedral Square, Ulm, Germany
26 Palais St Jordi, Barcelona, Spain
27 Sports Palace, Madrid, Spain
29 Zaragoza, Spain

[Riva]

A local band did the same thing, albeit on a less impressive scale, a few years back. Got a bloody great cheer from the crowd.

[JohnXDoe]

In fact I like that part so much I was thinking of printing this http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/EamonnMcCusker/WhoMovie05.jpg out and making one of those homemade iron on tee shrits.
I was looking for that yesterday to make my profile pic. Couldn't find it in a google search. Thanks, it gets the job done. I'm gonna rotate this and one of Pete windmilling. :)

Quick question for anyone Who knows or who has the Tommy/Quad DVD. On the Quad tour of '96 am I right in thinking Townshend played only acoustic guitar for those shows with the exception of a few songs and perhaps the encore? I'm pretty sure that is the case but I need to be certain. Any ASAP answers are greatly appreciated.

[Dragon_Prince]

The encore is mostly accoustic to even Won't Get FooledAgain :)

[Ephemeral]

More The Who shows

JUNE
18 Brighton Centre, England
25 O2 Wireless Festival - Leeds, England
28 Bristol City Football Club, England
30 Werchter Festival - Belgium
JULY
2 Hyde Park Calling Festival - London Hyde Park, England
3 Beaulieu Motor Museum - Hampshire, England
5 Liverpool Docks, England
6 Liverpool Docks, England
8 Oxegen Festival, Dublin, Eire
9 T In The Park Festival, Scotland
11 Bonn Museumplatz, Germany
12 Berlin Wuhleide, Germany
14 Locano Moon & Stars, Switzerland
15 Sporting Club, Monte Carlo
17 Vienne Theatre Antique (near Lyon), France
18 Metz Amneville Arena, France
20 Switz - Geneva Paleo Festival
22 Lovely Days Festival, St Polten, Austria
23 Cathedral Square, Ulm, Germany
26 Palais St Jordi, Barcelona, Spain
27 Sports Palace, Madrid, Spain
29 Zaragoza, Spain
Come to Calgary, damnit!

[Lunch]

Give them some time, they aren't getting out of Europe yet.

[JohnXDoe]

Hey guys. I've just submitted a review for Live At RAH and someone has already down rated it. :(

Go to sputnik and throw some support behind this one. The Who deserve it. I don't care if you even read the review, go give this under appreciated Who album it's due. The Who will own sputnik yet!

:smash:

EDIT: And no one answered my question above, WTF? :angry:

[Lunch]

That was a really great review John.

Edit: Over the last couple weeks I've noticed that this thread is really the part of R&M I'm into the most. I haven't been posting as much in the good ol' CR thread as I used to and this is the one I go to check first. For that reason I'd just like to tell all the regs here, for those of you who don't know, that my name is Mike. Some other users around the site that are familiar with me know that already, but if you don't there you go.

[zabbit82]

/Goes to CD reviews to support one of the greatest bands ever.

Geez, those rockin geezers need to get out of Europe and get over here. They especaily need to come to Detroit!

[JohnXDoe]

Thanks Lunch.

And yeah zabbit, they move slowly these days. I suppose the times of tearing through two sets a night are well past them now. By the time they make it to the states we'll be lucky if they can still stand, much less pull off a performance. I fear Pete might be half blind as well as half deaf, fall off the edge of the stage while leaping, and break a hip. :(

[robo2448]

Yeah if I had only ten minutes to show somebody who had never heard a rock song before what it was all about, I would play Won't Get Fooled Again from the Kids Are All Right. It was honestly the most visually stunning performance I've seen for except perhaps Jimi Hendrix's Wild Thing at the Montery Pop Festivle.

In fact I like that part so much I was thinking of printing this http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/EamonnMcCusker/WhoMovie05.jpg out and making one of those homemade iron on tee shrits.

That's my new background on my computer now:cool:

:wave: 'sup Mike. I've known your name for a while now but for some reason I always call people by their usernames, not their real names. I'm Sam btw.

[rockinbass17]

The best part about living where I do is that if anyone does a US tour, they always come to New York. Getting tickets is another story, but when (not if) The Who come over here, I will be going.

[robo2448]

The best part about living where I do is that if anyone does a US tour, they always come to New York. Getting tickets is another story, but when (not if) The Who come over here, I will be going.

NY ftw.

The problem with that is that tickets are always more expensive here (sometimes by a lot) and they sell out much quicker. But I'm not complaining.

[pigonthewing82]

Speaking of the RAH performance you can see many songs from it live in the concert section of On Demand.

[JohnXDoe]

That's my new background on my computer now
I just made it The Who's bio pic at sputnik, too. :cool:


/goes back to listening to the RAH gig. Acoustic Drowned. Good stuff...

[PremierManiac]

My parents said as soon as the Who tour dates are released they will pay for half of my ticket in the closest city. Can't wait, I hope I get tickets.

[pigonthewing82]

My only fear of seeing the Who is my expectations of their show will be so high I'm not sure with only two members left they will meet it.

[PremierManiac]

I'm confident that they will perform at a high level and meet my expectations. This particular reincarnation of the Who has been playing together for quite some time.

[pigonthewing82]

I'm confident that they will perform at a high level and meet my expectations. This particular reincarnation of the Who has been playing together for quite some time.

Yeah I know well I just saw the Kids Are Alright and so the Who are like the god of live bands in my mind right now. I mean I always knew they were an amazing live band but now that I've actually seen how they play I'm just so blown away.

[JohnXDoe]

Yes, they are playing quite well together. Pino has settled in on bass, and Simon Townshend makes an excellent addition, as well. Plus Pete is excited about having some new tunes to play, and that is a plus. Hopefully they will re-work the setlist they have been sticking to for the last couple of tours as well.

I saw a performance from a late '94 gig they did in Japan on Towser TV at Pete's website, and they were excellent. The Japanese really went nuts for them and the band looked clearly pleased and a bit surprised by the reception. And they played like it, too.

The Who are not capable of putting on a bad show. You will not be let down.

[pigonthewing82]

The Who are not capable of putting on a bad show. You will not be let down.

:p Those were just the right words to throw out any quistion that the show might not meet my expectations.

[JohnXDoe]

Hey guys. I have a 15 song sampler of The Who At Royal Albert Hall linked up and ready to go. Would of been longer, but I have a 100mb upload limit. Jeff, robo, and Tusk are already taken care of, as I had clear contact info for them. If anyone else wants it leave me your email in this thread and I will send you the link.

[Seafroggys]

seafroggys@yahoo.com

what's the songlist?

[JohnXDoe]

seafroggys@yahoo.com

what's the songlist?
Done...

I Can't Explain
Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere
My Wife
The Kids Are Alright
Bargain
Who Are You
Baba 'O Riley
You Better You Bet
The Real Me
Won't Get Fooled Again
Let's See Action
My Generation
I Don't Even Know Myself
Summertime Blues
Young Man Blues

[Seafroggys]

Ah awesome

Would have liked to see some See Me Feel Me/Listening to You action though, as it is my favorite song, but its free, so who am I to complain?

[Lunch]

You know John, always trying to put Tommy down.

[robo2448]

Thanks John, downloading now.

I love having that pic as my background. It's nice to log on and see Pete sliding across the stage.

[Lunch]

I usually rotate between the Who and Scarface.

Right now it's http://pubpages.unh.edu/~ismith/Scarface.jpg

[Seafroggys]

Here's my current desktop

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/seafroggys/wallpaper.jpg

I got a bunch of screenshots off of TKAA DVD, so I have like 4 pics of 'the slide'. Heh.

[wanderer]

Pino is amazing bass players.. however with The Who his complete s*** and should not be on stage with them. For one, doesn't have balls to say anything anything about his sound situation, a person who supposedly is the definition of
professianal player but then again that's exactly the problem.

By the way, Pete played Let My Love Open The Door and Barefootin (with Chris from the Squeeze and his band) 'In the attic' show. It was great to watch...

[JohnXDoe]

^I saw that. And I believe it's still running for those who might want to catch it.

And give Pino a break, would you. He has big shoes to fill. So far as his sound, I'm not sure what you are talking about except for the volume he plays at. Which is lower then John's. But that is to be expected, I would think...

[Seafroggys]

The Albert Hall gig is awesome. My only frown is John's voice, which seemed pretty weak on My Wife.

I just got done listening to Who Are You, next song's next, heh.

[zabbit82]

So as soon as I got home from school, I popped in a tape my dad has of The Kids Are Alright, and went to Won't Get Fooled Again. It's been a long time since I've seen it so it almost escaped my memory. All I have to say about that climatic ending:

:eek:

[robo2448]

My Generation off of LaL is so good it should be illegal. I love driving around blasting that like I did today. I get so many weird looks from old people. It's hilarious. It makes me feel like such a rebel.

[rockinbass17]

If I were to give rebellion a soundrack, LaL would contribute several tracks, mores so than any other album. My Generation, Summertime Blues, Young Man Blues, etc.

[Riva]

I'm glad to say that I have done that too. The best song to play is Won't Get Fooled Again (the studio version) and pulling up at the stoplights when they have the build up to the final "Yeah". Once or twice the green light has turned at the same time as Roger's voice coming in. Awesomeness ensues.

[JohnXDoe]

lmao at Riva. There was a time when I believe he was sane....that avatar has got to be the best ever....

Anyway, other then 'froggys, who is enjoying the Royal Albert Hall sampler I sent out to a few of you? Anybody have any thoughts?

[JohnXDoe]

Man, two days with no posts. C'mon guys, talk about something. Like The Who.

I'll be putting a review of It's Hard :upset: up at sputnik in a bit, so be on the lookout. Go on over and trash our favorite band. :)

[Lunch]

I'll trash them. Too bad Eminence Front couldn't be on a better album.

[Substitute]

If I were to give rebellion a soundrack, LaL would contribute several tracks, mores so than any other album. My Generation, Summertime Blues, Young Man Blues, etc.

Slip Kid off of By Numbers.
Hey.. High Numbers.. By Numbers. I just realized that.

[JohnXDoe]

I'll trash them. Too bad Eminence Front couldn't be on a better album.
Yeah. It's up now. That was fun.

:smash: ----Me
:upset: ----The Who, lmfao....

[Riva]

One day you'll release an album, John, and Pete will post nasty things about you too!

One day!

[JohnXDoe]

Yes, 'tis has been a far off dream of mine for many a year now. I'd wipe the floor with that old geezer. :p

[Substitute]

He'd smite you with his nose.

[Substitute]

The only stuff I've never really liked from them are Townshends lesser tracks on It's Hard, the overly synth heavy tracks on Who Are You, and until recently just about the whole of Tommy.

BLASPHEMER!

:smash:
:mad:

[robo2448]

I'm glad to say that I have done that too. The best song to play is Won't Get Fooled Again (the studio version) and pulling up at the stoplights when they have the build up to the final "Yeah". Once or twice the green light has turned at the same time as Roger's voice coming in. Awesomeness ensues.

I have been known to do this.

I'll go bash The Who now. I don't have It's Hard and I don't really plan on getting it either. Eminence Front is so awesome though.

[Seafroggys]

BLASPHEMER!

:smash:
:mad:

no kidding, Tommy is my second favorite album of all time.

Who Are You has some decent synth tracks. 905 being especially good in my opinion.

[JohnXDoe]

BLASPHEMER!

:smash:
:mad:
The truth will set you free!

ARGGGHHH!

/smashes guitar over your head. In spirit only, of course :p


EDIT: and that goes for 'froggys, too.

[JohnXDoe]

no kidding, Tommy is my second favorite album of all time.

Who Are You has some decent synth tracks. 905 being especially good in my opinion.
I like some of Tommy now. Say a good half of it. And Who Are You, I dig 905, Trick Of The Light, Music Must Change, Guitar And Pen, and the titlle track. I don't do so well with the rest. Not so much the songs as the production/synths. Which just wash over everything for Had Enough, New Song, and Sister Disco. Sister Disco cooks live, though. And Love Is Coming Down is just meh.

[Seafroggys]

I like some of Tommy now. Say a good half of it. And Who Are You, I dig 905, Trick Of The Light, Music Must Change, Guitar And Pen, and the titlle track. I don't do so well with the rest. Not so much the songs as the production/synths. Which just wash over everything for Had Enough, New Song, and Sister Disco. Sister Disco cooks live, though. And Love Is Coming Down is just meh.

I agree with you on Who Are You. You should see my review on Sputnik. I also like No Road Romance (its one of the added tracks on the CD rerelease). New Song sucks :(

[JohnXDoe]

^ Yeah, I commented on that album a few months ago. Didn't realize it was you after all this time. I like that review. You did a good job with it. I had to lol right now when I saw the first thing on your list of "Cons" for it was New Song.....

[JohnXDoe]

Lunch, you have not gone to trash The Who yet? Do you not have it in you? What the hell is the matter? Going soft on The Who, wtf?

[Lunch]

I double up on the thrashing just for that.

[JohnXDoe]

Excellent work, Lunch. It wouldn't of been a complete trashing without you. You closed it out well. :)

[Seafroggys]

we should probably date all the undated albums on Sputnik, just because its something to do and make it look cleaner. I don't know how we'd do it, maybe get a mod to do it or something.

[JohnXDoe]

I just did Face Dances since that was my blurb. I think the others might need to be blurbed at least to get a date on them. Although I think A Quick One is dated withouta review of any sort. And Live At Leeds was done by afroman, so he can do that, hopefully. The other two, I'm not so sure? They are the compilations...

Perhaps I will ask in the sputnik forum.

[JohnXDoe]

The Who Suck :chug:
You suck :chug:
So does his mom. She's pretty good at it, too....:chug:


Good work in the Pit, Lunch my fine fellow. I couldn't resist myself. :smash:

[Lunch]

Yea, I was debating whether or not to do anything about it. But I couldn't let that slide by me.

Tag-teamed him.

[Seafroggys]

woah! linky?

[Lunch]

It's in the "How Do You Like Your Rock?" thread, it's a poll.

[RNR]

Good work. Nobody insults any band that I like and gets away with it! (or genre. some good memories pwning a guy who made a "classic rock sucks" thread).

[Substitute]

some good memories pwning a guy who made a "classic rock sucks" thread).

lolol dummy.

[Lunch]

Good work. Nobody insults any band that I like and gets away with it! (or genre. some good memories pwning a guy who made a "classic rock sucks" thread).

Haha, good times.

Everyone vote for Moon if they haven't already.

[RNR]

That was an easy choice. The next closest choices were Mike Portnoy and Mitch Mitchell. Anbd Keith Moon kicks their asses

[Lunch]

In the drummers poll, stickied at the top of the page.

n00b...

[RNR]

Ahem! ninja edit.

(ok, maybe a slow ninja edit. But you have no proof!)

[Ephemeral]

I'm here!

[RNR]

You sure are, dude. :thumb:

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_vocal-perf.html

No ****ing contest. The next 10 are like piss compared to Daltry.

[Lunch]

That site has some pretty good lists. They also seem to like the Who, which is good.

[Dragon_Prince]

Gehe the list is OK, some would really have to be higher(Like Gabriel, Sting or Yorke) But it's cool they have rated Daltry, Gillian, Mercury, Buckley and even Torry so high

[Lunch]

Well no list is going to be perfect for everyone. I think overall though they do a much better job than lists in Rolling Stone and such.

[Dragon_Prince]

Yup, but that isn't really much harder. The main problems with lists is fanboys and not being objective, the results you can find here on mx ;)(who could anyone think Portnoy is great? :|)

[JohnXDoe]

I think lists are kind of B.S. And Dream Theater is crap. Sorry, but they are.

[Lunch]

I'm sure the same thing can be said by many other people about us voting for Moon. It's just opinions.

Edit: To Dragonprince.

[JohnXDoe]

I'm listening to Moon right now. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. He's a superior talent in every way.

[Lunch]

You know I'm with you, and I would never think Portnoy should be ahead of Moon, but I'm just saying we only represent one side of the biased scale. Not specifically about the current poll, just about MX opinions in general.

[JohnXDoe]

I was just thinking how great it was that Pete sang in The Who. He and Roger don't have the same kind of voice, but they sound good together and Pete added another dimension to the music by singing lead sometimes. I think Pete is a really good singer, actually. What he lacks in range he makes up for with force and energy.


EDIT: You are a far fairer man then I, Lunch.


EDIT 2: Are you saying we are blinded by fanboyism? :(


EDIT 3: Dream Theater do blow with that progressive metal crap, though. Or whatever the hell it is? I don't even know WTF?

[Lunch]

I think Roger is the more of the one who lacks range and makes up for it with force and energy. Pete probably had better range than Daltrey.

No, we aren't blinded by fanboyism. I know we can all rag on the Who. Every real Who fan should be able to trash the Who sometimes, because it's so easy. And I'm not defending Dream Theater, at all. I don't like them, or care about them. My point was just applying to general lists and opinions.

[JohnXDoe]

This version of Bonie Moronie from the Maximum R&B collection is great. Band just tears it up. And hearing Roger sing "Making love underneath the apple tree" is a hoot. Pete plays his arse off, too. But what else is new....

[Ephemeral]

Roger Daltry is one of my favorite male vocalists of all time.

[Lunch]

That disc is pretty awesome because of The Seeker, Join Together, the Relay, Let's See Action, and Bonie Moronie.

[JohnXDoe]

HEADLINE: THE WHO ANNOUNCE U.S. EAST COAST TOUR DATES!






































































































Not really. I just wanted to make Lunch jump a little. :)

[Lunch]

Hah, unfortunately for you I somehow read the bottom of your post first. Pwned.

[JohnXDoe]

:upset:

oic. Well it's just a clever set up. So when I announce it for real you'll just shrug it off and miss out. I'm sneaky like that. :cool:

So you better stay on your toes....

[Lunch]

I'll be looking out for the dates myself, you know.

[Dragon_Prince]

Out here in the fields ...

[JohnXDoe]

^...I picked some corn?

I don't know WTF? :confused:
So you better stay on your toes....
I'll be looking out for the dates myself, you know.
:rolleyes:

[Riva]

Anyone remember that thread where the bloke was asking the name of the song with the lyrics "Out here in the fields", and he got replies in equal parts of "Who Are You" and "Teenage Wasteland" and it took the combined efforts of Lunch, some classic rock regs, and myself to drive into people's heads that they were wrong.

That thread went for around 4 pages, I think. Good times.

[pigonthewing82]

Anyone remember that thread where the bloke was asking the name of the song with the lyrics "Out here in the fields", and he got replies in equal parts of "Who Are You" and "Teenage Wasteland" and it took the combined efforts of Lunch, some classic rock regs, and myself to drive into people's heads that they were wrong.

That thread went for around 4 pages, I think. Good times.

Wow I wish I was there to read that it sounds like it would be very entertaining. I met somebody who thought Pete Townsend was a Beatle :lol:

[zabbit82]

Out here in the fields ...
I fought for my meals....

(Riva: that is one sweet avatar :cool: )

[Lunch]

Anyone remember that thread where the bloke was asking the name of the song with the lyrics "Out here in the fields", and he got replies in equal parts of "Who Are You" and "Teenage Wasteland" and it took the combined efforts of Lunch, some classic rock regs, and myself to drive into people's heads that they were wrong.

That thread went for around 4 pages, I think. Good times.

Haha, yea. Good times.

[BigTrav415]

Dream Theater > Who lololol


I've never actually heard any Dream Theater :-/ I've heard they are rather pretentious and that only other musicians can appreciate their music at all.

[Seafroggys]

I think Roger is the more of the one who lacks range and makes up for it with force and energy. Pete probably had better range than Daltrey.

Yeah, but I think John owns on the range part. Damn he had a high falsetto!

[wanderer]

Daltrey interview (podcast). Talks about various topics, including Moon movie etc.

http://www.musicweek.com/podcasts/The_Who_podcast.mp3

[Substitute]

Moon has amazing vocal range.
See Bellboy(Quadrophenia)

[Substitute]

Out here in the fields ...


I fight for my meals.

[Lunch]

I don't know why/how people enjoy that part, it kind of ruins Bellboy for me.

[Ephemeral]

I'll be looking out for the dates myself, you know.
You better, you better, you bet.

[JohnXDoe]

^Oh my...:rolleyes:

[robo2448]

Bell Boy is awesome. I love Moon in that song. That's my favorite part of it, just because it's Keith. Of course nothing can beat Barbara Ann...

John could definitely go lower than any of the others. Boris the Spider ftw.

[Lunch]

John has an incredible range, now that I think about it, haha. Boris the Spider to A Quick One.

[pigonthewing82]

Awsome, the Simpsons with The Who was on tonight :cool:

[Lunch]

No, I missed it again! Damnit.

[BigTrav415]

Awsome, the Simpsons with The Who was on tonight :cool:
I remember seeing that a long time ago, before knowing anything about music. I want to see it again now that I'd appreciate it so much more. I vaguely remember the Simpsons going the the Who's hotel room, and also that when the Who actually performed only the Simpsons were watching because of the whole town area code splitting-up thing.

Boris The Spider was the first Who song I ever heard :cool:

[robo2448]

I bought that crappy 20th Century Masters right after I first saw that episode because I thought the Who were so cool. Terrible compilation, but I love it since it did get me into the Who. I haven't seen that episode in ages.

[Lunch]

I saw it last when I didn't quite get all the references, although I still liked the Who back then.

[JohnXDoe]

The Simpsons? Them were the days....:upset:

[JohnXDoe]

I bought that crappy 20th Century Masters right after I first saw that episode because I thought the Who were so cool. Terrible compilation, but I love it since it did get me into the Who. I haven't seen that episode in ages.
lol (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/blurb.php?albumid=8502#6946)

[pigonthewing82]

I bought that crappy 20th Century Masters right after I first saw that episode because I thought the Who were so cool. Terrible compilation, but I love it since it did get me into the Who. I haven't seen that episode in ages.

After I heard LAL I was so pissed my parents started me off on that complitation since I would have LOVED the Who right away instead of only liking them right away.

[JohnXDoe]

I'm listening to Townshend's Empty Glass. :cool:

Hey robo and Jeff, how'd you guys like that Royal Albert Hall sampler I sent out? Tusk as well. Wherever he is?

[PremierManiac]

How is everyone celebrating Townshend's birthday tomorro?

[Ephemeral]

^Oh my...:rolleyes:
:upset:

Hey robo and Jeff, how'd you guys like that Royal Albert Hall sampler I sent out? Tusk as well. Wherever he is?
Pretty swell. Thanks again.

[JohnXDoe]

How is everyone celebrating Townshend's birthday tomorro?
I'm going to England and kicking his old, pretentious arse. :)



EDIT: So you like it pretty good, Jeff?

[Seafroggys]

Awsome, the Simpsons with The Who was on tonight :cool:

i've always wanted to see that one

[rockinbass17]

Townsend's B-Day ftw.

As a celebration I've been (and will be) listening to Tommy and Quadrophenia all day.

[Lunch]

I'm going to England and kicking his old, pretentious arse. :)

Count me in on that, too.

[Riva]

i've always wanted to see that one

I have it on video. :)

Crowd: MAGIC BUS!!!!

Roger: Alright, we'll play Magic Bus if you tear down this wall.

[pause]

Homer: PINBALL WIZARD!!!

[rockinbass17]

Oh man, have any of you ever drank to LaL? It's the best, most rebellious drinking music ever. It also, strangly, makes me really horny. Seriously, just listening to it makes me horny.

Sorry but I'm kinda gone right now.

[Lunch]

I have played plenty of beer pong to LaL, it gives me special powers. I wouldn't say it makes me horny though.

[JohnXDoe]

*horny

[wanderer]

In case people haven't checked out Pete's news/diares from his official site,
there's entries about the new record

http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=265&zone=diary
http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=278&zone=pr

There's also couple funny poems too...

http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/index.cfm?zone=diary

[JohnXDoe]

^Thanks for that, Wanderer. I' visit his site regularly, but usually just browse the news pages looking for info. This sounds exciting. Very tight scheduling, but Pete sounds happy with it. And with his band of professional players they should have at least a few things ready to take on the road and perform from the "mini opera". It's also exciting that someone like director Sam Mendes (American Beauty, Road To Perdition, Jarhead) has been interested to work with them on the video/short film side, even if it doesn't come off due to time restraints. And it looks as though we are not just getting the min opera, but a full and seperate album a few months later. That's great. And the fact that Pete says the shows will be more of a production then we've seen previous tours is also good news.

Silly Pete. All these last few years putting Who stuff on the back burner, and now he is racing around trying to complete things and sounds more excited then I have heard him in years. And about what? About The Who! What a wanker. :)

[wanderer]

Do you people consider this a Who album ?, I don't, it's clearly Townshend
solo record with Roger doing some of the vocals. I don't think any album
after Moon died is a Who album but it doesn't matter (what they/Pete calls is meaningles to me) to me since I love the music Petes done after that (with "the band" or on his own) and with John gone it's definately Pete solo music project.

And not to disappoint anyone but I'm quite certain that everyone here knows excatly what you are going to hear on upcoming tour, the usual and perhaps maybe one or two new tracks trown in.