The Who

[pigonthewing82]

But your mention of Who's Next and how everyone shined on that album made me think about just how different live this band was then they were in studio. While others would strive to duplicate live what they did in studio, or fall short of the greatness they might be on record:

Yeah I love bands like that. Thats why I love bands like Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, or The Grateful Dead. They sound sometimes totally different from the studio album, but both the live and studio sound have different things that make them great.

[zabbit82]

That's the way I've always heard the story. And yea, I've seen a couple of photos from the night before his death.

Keith's death is especially tragic because I think the Who could've made a couple more great albums. Townshend's songwriting and ability was still as good as ever, Daltrey still had the pipes and Entwistle was always getting better. As opposed to Led Zeppelin, when Bonham died I think that was a good time to end the group. ITTOD was decent but to me it sounds like a sinking ship of a group. I'm not saying Led Zeppelin would've sucked if they had continued, I'm just hypothesizing.

Yeah, ITTOD wasn't a stellar album, I mean it had some great songs on it (In The Evening, Carouselambra). I read in a GuitarWorld interview that Page gave saying that he thought ITTOD was soft, and him and Bonham were discussing plans on making a hard-driving rock album. I would have at least loved to see Zeppelin release a album on a high note after "Out Door" then quit after that, (given that Bonham didnt die in '80). Then again I'm one of MX's hardcore Zep fans....

But anyways,the Who were gaining steam and getting better during Who Are You. So sad Keith had to die soon after... :upset:

[JohnXDoe]

Yeah, ITTOD wasn't a stellar album, I mean it had some great songs on it (In The Evening, Carouselambra). I read in a GuitarWorld interview that Page gave saying that he thought ITTOD was soft, and him and Bonham were discussing plans on making a hard-driving rock album. I would have at least loved to see Zeppelin release a album on a high note after "Out Door" then quit after that, (given that Bonham didnt die in '80). Then again I'm one of MX's hardcore Zep fans....

But anyways,the Who were gaining steam and getting better during Who Are You. So sad Keith had to die soon after... :upset:
I really like ITTOD. Again, not up to par with previous work, but I think it surpasses Presence Which is a bore, IMO. I like the songs you mentioned, Hot Dog, All Of My Love, Fool In The Rain, I'm Gonna Crawl, South Bound Suarez. And that just about covers it. The entire album, I mean. It also helps that the album is just seven songs long. :p

Anyway, not a Zep thread, but perhaps you can give me some info. I've always been curious about Jimmy. Great studio musician, good live. As Zep's music became more elaborate he seemed to struggle onstage. Fine. You do what you can. But when I saw the HTWWW DVD it's almost shocking how much he slipped throughout the years.

Again, I'm no big Zep fan, but I do respect them. But what happened to Jimmy? When I heard Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes Live At The Greek he seems to be a shadow of his former self. And I listen to that album. I like it. Good tunes. But Jimmy is supposed to be one of rocks great guitarist. For a moment perhaps he was. Or maybe he was only in the studio? But live I've never heard it. Which is fine. But in the late seventies it seems Bonham and Jones made a great rythmn section, and then Jimmy would just screech all over things with sloppy guitar that wasn't supposed to be sloppy.

Again, I know this is your favorite band. Or close. And I respect them and admire a lot of their work. But what happened to Jimmy the producer, songwriter, and musician along the way?

[PinkFreud]

He fell into hard drugs, basically. That can't explain EVERYTHING about his decline but it's definitely a big factor.

[Ephemeral]

I got mine when it first came out, and Best Buy had a small discount on it. I think it was $25.
Cool. I'll check Best Buy.
__________________________________________________

Wasn't there talk like a year ago about a new album? With Ringo Starr's son on drums?

Also, a tour if I'm not mistaken.

Or was I just dreaming this?

[JohnXDoe]

Wasn't there talk like a year ago about a new album? With Ringo Starr's son on drums?

Also, a tour if I'm not mistaken.

Or was I just dreaming this?
It's coming. This summer and just past. Album and tour. Or something like an album. Pete says it's a whole new deal for them. So we'll see.

He fell into hard drugs, basically. That can't explain EVERYTHING about his decline but it's definitely a big factor.
Yeah. I know about the drugs. But perhaps not the extent. And I suppose he may still battle some demons? I really don't know?

[Ephemeral]

It's coming. This summer and just past. Album and tour. Or something like an album. Pete says it's a whole new deal for them. So we'll see.
I can't wait now.

[zabbit82]

I really like ITTOD. Again, not up to par with previous work, but I think it surpasses Presence Which is a bore, IMO. I like the songs you mentioned, Hot Dog, All Of My Love, Fool In The Rain, I'm Gonna Crawl, South Bound Suarez. And that just about covers it. The entire album, I mean. It also helps that the album is just seven songs long. :p

Anyway, not a Zep thread, but perhaps you can give me some info. I've always been curious about Jimmy. Great studio musician, good live. As Zep's music became more elaborate he seemed to struggle onstage. Fine. You do what you can. But when I saw the HTWWW DVD it's almost shocking how much he slipped throughout the years.

Again, I'm no big Zep fan, but I do respect them. But what happened to Jimmy? When I heard Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes Live At The Greek he seems to be a shadow of his former self. And I listen to that album. I like it. Good tunes. But Jimmy is supposed to be one of rocks great guitarist. For a moment perhaps he was. Or maybe he was only in the studio? But live I've never heard it. Which is fine. But in the late seventies it seems Bonham and Jones made a great rythmn section, and then Jimmy would just screech all over things with sloppy guitar that wasn't supposed to be sloppy.

Again, I know this is your favorite band. Or close. And I respect them and admire a lot of their work. But what happened to Jimmy the producer, songwriter, and musician along the way?

Well I know after Bonham died, he didnt play his guitar for a long time. I think he hit is prime from '68 to '75, so pretty much I to PG. Honestly, I think Presence is amazing, all 7 songs (exept Candy Store Rock, that can be a bore sometimes), but that record was done entirely in 18 days, so it sounds very rushed (and Robert was in a cast because of his near fatal car accident a few months before the album was recorded.) Jimmy wasn't just one of rock's greatest guitarists in the studio, but also live. Thats prolly the one thing that made Zeppelin so great, was how explosive thier live shows were compared to thier studio work. HTTWW showcases the best of the band for sure. Heartbreaker, Since I've Been Loving You, Dazed and Confused, all the band showcased thier talent, especaily Jimmy.

But to answer your question, I think his less than perfect playing after Zep has to do with his struggle with heroin, but I'm not exactly sure when he had that addiction, I think it was late in Zeppelin. Another reason could be his musical chemistry wasnt as good with all three other members of Zeppelin. As Pink said, it has to do with alot of stuff, and thats all I can answer for now.

And yes, Zeppelin is my favorite band.

And the Who highly ranks with my list of favorite bands, but I am not as knowledgable of them as you and Lunch are.

/plays Who's Next :)

[robo2448]

From what I've heard, Page was shooting up on heroin everyday. I've heard that by the end of their career, he would seem almost asleep on stage. Kind of like Keith Richards today. Like he was so deeply into drugs that he just didn't even seem alive anymore. It's sad what drugs can do. I would never touch heroin, so many musicians have suffered from it.

So yeah, The Who rock. I am definitely going to be seeing them in NY when they come here.

[zabbit82]

Yeah, the drugs are takin the toll now on every rock musician of the '70s who did them. But having just seen the Stones this August, Richards wasnt dozing like you think he would be. He actually played well and rocked.

I gotta check out dates when the Who are coming around Detroit. Although I'd be boarderlined on going. Half the original members are alive, and Rogers voice isn't what it used to be....

Nonetheless, it would be awesome to go.

[JohnXDoe]

Hey, thanks for the Jimmy info. It is shocking what drugs can do. These guys, top of the world, great musicians and talent. The only thing I can figure for something like heroin is they have some deep pain going on that not stardom, riches, or celebrity can take care of. And I suppose maybe that's the source of some of their work, too. Kind of a double edge sword.

And you know I understand some drug use. Perhaps even recreational. But heroin is a whole other ball game. Pete Townshend, who used heroin briefly but never shot it said it feels like "being wrapped in your mothers love". Interesting.

And I suppose it's a matter of pick your poison, also. Hell, it was drink that basically did Keith in. And even food for a time. Entwhistle drank all his life and it was a coke binge with two hookers that did him in. Induced a heart attack. The man was well into his fifties. You would figure their might be something learned in all those years. And most likely their is. But perhaps it just doen't matter when it's always "one last time". Which of course it never is if you keep using. It's just the first time all over again....

[pigonthewing82]

Roger's voice may not have the same range as it used to, but I think it still has a lot of power and emotion behind it. Whitch for me is all I care about, I could care less how much range you have just as long as you sing like you give a dam what your singing about. Pete's voice isn't bad today either. The lattest live recording I have of them is at the Royal Albert Hall in 2000. Their last show with John. It also comes with a bonus disk from 2002. It isn't stunning like Live at Leeds, but its still a very solid live album and well worth seeing them if thats what they still sound like. I remember their preformance at Live 8 was pretty good too.

Also a lot of new lyrics and instrumental parts to old songs. For example the song The Kids Are Allright has some great new lyrics to it. They are written from Pete's point of view of kids today and a reflection on his life.

[zabbit82]

And Bon Scott basically drank himself to death. Interesting what that stuff can do to ya. no prob for the info too.

'nite MX

[JonG]

So...Heaven and Hell on LaL is damn good...

Passing through, don't mind me.

[JohnXDoe]

Roger's voice may not have the same range as it used to, but I think it still has a lot of power and emotion behind it. Whitch for me is all I care about, I could care less how much range you have just as long as you sing like you give a dam what your singing about. Pete's voice isn't bad today either. The lattest live recording I have of them is at the Royal Albert Hall in 2000. Their last show with John. It also comes with a bonus disk from 2002. It isn't stunning like Live at Leeds, but its still a very solid live album and well worth seeing them if thats what they still sound like. I remember their preformance at Live 8 was pretty good too.

Also a lot of new lyrics and instrumental parts to old songs. For example the song The Kids Are Allright has some great new lyrics to it. They are written from Pete's point of view of kids today and a reflection on his life.
Yeah, Roger still gets the job done quite well. And Pete is in fine voice, as well. The RAH performance is a real good one. I can do without the "special guests" that muck a few things up, but it's a good performance nonetheless. And John is very good on it.

Also, if you haven't picked up the Live In Boston DVD it's worth a go. It was recorded on the last show they did for the tour on which John died. They seem a little tired, and the performance takes a few songs to really kick in. But they get it going nicely. And Simon does a good job on guitar, as well as Pino on bass. And Pete plays with determined passion, maybe realizing with John gone he had to step it up a notch. Oh, and Roger sounds great, if a little worn. I figure it being the end of a tour that probably was emotionally and mentally draining took a bit out of the old geezers at the end, but they come through. Well worth a purchase at $20 or under. Which it is most places. Some nice bonus stuff, too. Including some of John's artwork.

[pigonthewing82]

Yeah, Roger still gets the job done quite well. And Pete is in fine voice, as well. The RAH performance is a reall good one. I can do without the "special guests" that muck a few things up, but it's a good performance nonetheless. And John is very good on it.

Also, if you haven't picked up the Live In Boston DVD it's worth a go. It was recorded on the last show they did for the tour on which John died. They seem a little tired, and the performance takes a few songs to really kick in. But they get it going nicely.

Wow that Boston DVD sounds pretty good, I'll probally pick it up when I get The Kids Are Allright DVD. Yeah and I could never understand why they felt the need to have all the special guests. The Who can hold their own as a band by themselves. I wasn't too crazy about some of the guests themselves either, they did a good job for the most part, but I would have rather have heard the actual members.

One reason that I want to see The Who is I have this hope, whitch is based on nothing but a hope, that someday something will click with the Who and they will realize they could do an awsome cover of Kick Out The Jams, and put it in their set list. Though Keith and John's input on the song would make it MUCH better than what it could be today, I still think they could pull it off.

[Lunch]

I gotta check out dates when the Who are coming around Detroit. Although I'd be boarderlined on going. Half the original members are alive, and Rogers voice isn't what it used to be....

Nonetheless, it would be awesome to go.

As far as I know, they've scheduled dates up through mid-late July (mostly in England) but none for the US yet. I can't wait till they release the dates for the US tours though.

Roger isn't what he used to be, that's a given of older rock 'n roll singer. However, he definitely gets it done still. The Royal Albert Hall performance is great considering their age. I agree that the Special Guests take away from the performance, I'd rather have just the Who. But if they're trying to have a good time, they might as well go for it.

And yea, Heaven and Hell from LaL is stunning. Like, even more so than most other songs on that album. The middle section is just this incredible wall of sound, I can't even believe that three guys played that.

[Ephemeral]

NP: 1921

Tommy ftw!

[ledpoisoning27]

I go away for a year and this thread is still alive, wow.

[zabbit82]

As long as the Who rule, this thread will live.

I'll have to keep my eyes out for U.S. tour dates, ones around Detroit especialy.

[Lunch]

We won't let this thread die.

LONG LIVE ROCK

[JohnXDoe]

Yeah, this thread is here to stay...

Lunch, I thought maybe the thread should have a name. It deserves one. Yes I know it began as an F.A, but it's more an "Official" band thread now. I don't know if R&M does official threads, but I see many bands have titles for their threads. Threads Full Of Secrets for Pink Floyd and Hallowed Be Thy Name for Iron Maiden, for example. This thread deserves a title, IMO. THE WHO deserve it, I should say.

I figure you know people around here, Lunch. Hook it up. We can all submit title suggestions. You or a mod can have final decision. And perhaps the title can change every so often, too. Off the top of my head:

These Kids Are Alright: The Who.
Hope I Die Before I Get Old: The Who.
Under A Raging Moon: The Who
Maximum R&B: The Who

Etc, etc....I'm sure you get the picture.

[JonG]

Lunch & JXD's Holiday Camp.

zomg

[JohnXDoe]

JXD's & Lunch's Holiday Camp.

zomg


Fix'd :p

[Lunch]

I like the "Hope I Die..." one, mainly because that's a great and powerful song line that will last in rock music for ever.

Since it's an FA, I'm not sure if the changes will be allowed, just because they probably wont them organized. But if we can all agree on something, I'll give it a shot.

Edit: Treadstarter first, bitch.

[robo2448]

I'm happy as long as it's not a gay stupid pun name like most of the others. I like the first two JXD came up. Don't like the last two though because Under a Raging Moon is a pretty bad song and Maximum R&B isn't cool enough.

[JohnXDoe]

Treadstarter first, bitch.
WTF? Who the hell is the TS? Lunch998? Obviously a lowly imposter. :smash:

[Ephemeral]

I'm going to throw out some Corny Suggestions for a new thread title if we need one:

- Teenage Wasteland
- Armenia City In The Sky
- Out In The Street
- Tommy's Holiday Camp

Or some other location from Who lyrics.

[Dragon_Prince]

I say we call it Teenage Wastelands :) Baba O' Riley has got to be the best song from the who

Or otherwise,
Join Together
the m(agi)x bus
MX Generation

or or or this

creepy crawly creepy creepy crawly crawly

^^

@Lunch, the FA link is still standing in that onethreat with all the other links and stuff. Anyone would notice this would be the FA whenr eading the first post ;)

[Lunch]

I don't like calling it Teenage Wasteland, mainly because that encourages the rumor that it's the name of the song.

And yea, I know where the FA links are, I'm just saying it's possible that the mods might want to keep all FA titles the same.

[Dragon_Prince]

Mhm, maybe a new The Who thread? :P

[JohnXDoe]

'sup Dragon Prince. Your thread names need work....:smash:

And I don't think we need a new thread if we can't rename this one. WTF, man? We ain't looking to dump all this good work. A new Who thread wouldn't make any sense and would die, most likely. This one is strong. I don't want another thread. :(

[Lunch]

Mhm, maybe a new The Who thread? :P

Why would we do that? That doesn't make any sense to start a new one when we already have good discussion here with so many posts.

If we can't change the name of this thread, I don't think we should start another one just to have a creative thread title.

[JohnXDoe]

I'm pretty sure he was kidding now that I see the little tongue sticking out at the end of his post. Wouldn't want another Who thread starting up, now would we? I'm scared of change. :(


EDIT: I'd crush it with my bare hands....

[Lunch]

Maybe not though, he tends to add smilies at the end of all his posts.

[Ephemeral]

I disagree with the new thread idea as well. Chances are, it would just cause confusion. Plus, like Lunch already said, this one has great discussions going anyways.

[Dragon_Prince]

Maybe not though, he tends to add smilies at the end of all his posts.


Mwuahahahaa, and my avatar will always smile :P

[zabbit82]

Meh... lets just keep the thread name as it is and not start another thead. And Teenage Wasteland for a title? I irritated by people who call Baba O'Riley that invalid name.

You gotta admit tho, that phrase in the song is catchy as none other.

[JohnXDoe]

You gotta admit tho, that phrase in the song is catchy as none other.
It's very catchy. And of course it takes on meaning outside the song, as well.

I've recently rediscoverd Baba, kind of. It's like hearing it all over again for the first time. The synth into is just tremendous. What must people of thought they were hearing way back in '71? Some sort of crazy piano gone haywire, no doubt. Synths just weren't used in this manner back then. It was a big pain in the butt to do so, also, as they were extremely limited and unreliable and expensive. And it just runs throughout the entire song, too. Townshend was a real groundbreaker with his use of synths on Who's Next and Quadrophenia. Hell, it still sounds impressive today. And he wasn't just doodling with them or adding atmosphere as some who experimented with them back then, but composing entire songs around them. Quite impressive.

I want to mention that at http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/ they are looping a Lifehouse performance from 2002 on TowserTV. Just click the TowserTV button in the upper right hand corner of the web page and you're in. Same band Pete has been using for over 20 years live (the core of whom joined The Who for the 1989 "Tommy 20" tour that is featured on the new Tommy/Quad DVD, and also joined the band for the 1997 Quadrophenia tour also featured) and a chamber orchestra, as well. It's a fantastic show with several songs from Who's Next incuded, as well as Pure and Easy, Join Together, I Don't Even Know Myself, and Relay. And of course other lesser known songs from Lifehouse. It's shown in a loop, but it really doesn't matter where you catch it, it's good. And Baba is a show stopper. I can't even describe it. Simply joyful. It nearly brought tears to my eyes. Literally. It's pretty much Pete onstage with a group of people overjoyed to be perfroming these songs and music. Very good. I believe a DVD of the show is available. I'm going to see about picking it up.

They have also been showing a Japenese gig The Who played more recently. The Japenese really go nuts for them and the band seems genuinely charged by the crowd. It's a real good performance. So if you check into TowserTV once in awhile you never know what you might find. And it's always good.

[JohnXDoe]

If you live in London their is a Who Convention at Sheppards Bush Hall this Saturday. Simon Townshend will be performing at 5:00pm and a couple of Who tribute bands will also be on hand. Pete's girlfriend Rachel Fuller may also be on hand. Tickets are on sale, but in very short supply.

[Ephemeral]

Meh... lets just keep the thread name as it is and not start another thead. And Teenage Wasteland for a title? I irritated by people who call Baba O'Riley that invalid name.

You gotta admit tho, that phrase in the song is catchy as none other.
Yeah, I get angered when people call it that aswell.

But, I was just looking for 'locations' in Who songs.

<3 the Who.

[JohnXDoe]

Pete Townshend is on TowserTV LIVE, right now! With his girl and brother and a couple of others....

gogogogo!

http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/

He's taking questions from fans and will be performing. The show is "In The Attic", his girls weekly webcast...

[JohnXDoe]

HEADLINE:

The Who have completed recording today of a new "Maxi Single" to be released for the upcoming tour. The record will include at least six songs and possibly as many as eight. Pete says Roger is in great voice and Pete's girlfriend Racheal Fuller says it is "great stuff". Pete seems very pleased with the results and says their is more new Who music to come. That is all.

You heard it here first. :cool:


EDIT: Pete says he wouldn't go to this weekends Who Convention in Sheppards Bush if they paid him in Jelly Belly's. :lol:

[JohnXDoe]

EUROPEAN DATES: FINAL SCHEDULE


The Who European tour 2006 - Full itinerary

The band have added a few more shows to their 2006 European jaunt. Hers is the complete schedule (as of today), which is likely to be the final list of dates (give or take a show being added) in Europe on this leg of the tour.

JUNE
18 Brighton Centre, England
25 O2 Wireless Festival - Leeds, England
28 Bristol City Football Club, England
30 Werchter Festival - Belgium
JULY
2 Hyde Park Calling Festival - London Hyde Park, England
3 Beaulieu Motor Museum - Hampshire, England
5 Liverpool Docks, England
6 Liverpool Docks, England
8 Oxegen Festival, Dublin, Eire
9 T In The Park Festival, Scotland
11 Bonn Museumplatz, Germany
12 Berlin Wuhleide, Germany
14 Locano Moon & Stars, Switzerland
15 Sporting Club, Monte Carlo
17 Vienne Theatre Antique (near Lyon), France
18 Metz Amneville Arena, France
20 Switz - Geneva Paleo Festival
22 Lovely Days Festival, St Polten, Austria
23 Cathedral Square, Ulm, Germany
26 Palais St Jordi, Barcelona, Spain
27 Sports Palace, Madrid, Spain
29 Zaragosa, Sppain
30 Benidorm, Spain


The Who news is comnig fast and furious today. :smash:

[Dragon_Prince]

That's ah bit old news
and I'm going to see them at hyde park calling

[Lunch]

That's ah bit old news
and I'm going to see them at hyde park calling

The full schedule is news, I only new about a select few dates in Europe before now.

I'm stoked about the new songs, and about the hopefully upcoming American tour dates.

[JohnXDoe]

That's ah bit old news
and I'm going to see them at hyde park calling
No way, dude. The final tour schedule was just posted yesterday at Pete's site and the completion of the Maxi Single was reported by yours truly as it was announced by Pete himself live last night on his girlfriends webcast show, which runs weekly on TowserTV. He looked tired. It was funny. She was like "what are we doing this weekend, Pete"? And he was like "NOTHING". And she said "well maybe we can go to The Who Convention". And he said "WTF for? Who's going to be there" And she said "well Simon and The Casbahs are going to be playing" And he said "oh well, I'm sick of them. I wouldn't go if they paid me in Jelly Bellys"

I'm on top of my Who reporting game. :cool: :smoke:

[Ephemeral]

Well boys, today, as I was reaching for Tommy and Quadrophenia Live DVD, Live at Leeds Deluxe edition caught my eye and I got it instead. It also includes a full preformance of Tommy.

[Lunch]

Well boys, today, as I was reaching for Tommy and Quadrophenia Live DVD, Live at Leeds Deluxe edition caught my eye and I got it instead. It also includes a full preformance of Tommy.

Live at Leeds Deluxe Edition is probably the best $30 I ever spent. The whole performance is just amazing, and I would definitel recommend it over the Tommy and Quadrophenia DVD.

[robo2448]

Live at Leeds Deluxe Edition is probably the best $30 I ever spent. The whole performance is just amazing, and I would definitel recommend it over the Tommy and Quadrophenia DVD.

Yeah seriously, that album is just a monster. Probably tied with Dylan's Blood on the Tracks as my favorite album ever. The best live album ever without a doubt.

[Ephemeral]

Live at Leeds Deluxe Edition is probably the best $30 I ever spent. The whole performance is just amazing, and I would definitel recommend it over the Tommy and Quadrophenia DVD.
I'm just listening to the last little bit of the second disc now. It was definitly worth it!

Plus it was 20% off. :cool:

This proves, once more, that The Who were an amazing band. I mean, to do an entire album, and one as complex as Tommy live, all in one shot is just incredible.

[Lunch]

Yea, and playing almost all of Tommy was a routine by that point. They had perfected the stage version by the time of the Leeds show.

It's quite a shame they could never do that with Quadrophenia (well, in their prime I mean). I wish we had some powerhouse live shows from that era.

[Ephemeral]

Yea, and playing almost all of Tommy was a routine by that point. They had perfected the stage version by the time of the Leeds show.

It's quite a shame they could never do that with Quadrophenia (well, in their prime I mean). I wish we had some powerhouse live shows from that era.
True.

They played it a total of 160 times live, I think.

[shirodead]

you guys are who fans, so who do you think should play keith moon in the upcoming movie?

[Ephemeral]

you guys are who fans, so who do you think should play keith moon?
What?

Do you mean replacement?

EDIT: Oh. I see.

hmm. Keith Richards. :p

[pigonthewing82]

you guys are who fans, so who do you think should play keith moon in the upcoming movie?

I heard Mike Myers might do it. I don't know I think he might be able to pull it off.

[Seafroggys]

yeah Mike Myers is doing it...

I can see him doing it honestly.....

[JohnXDoe]

you guys are who fans, so who do you think should play keith moon in the upcoming movie?
I heard Mike Myers might do it. I don't know I think he might be able to pull it off.
Yup. It's supposed to be Mike Myers, and it's supposed to be a go. Roger is involved, as is Pete, sort of. But I saw Mike Myers on a TV interview a couple of months ago and when asked of his upcoming projects he didn't mention the film. He mentioned a few things he said he was especially excited about, but no mention of the Moon bio pic whatsoever. Which was surprising because he's been overlooking the project for several years, at least. I think he would be great in the role. He plays drums and has the right kind of off the wall style to play Moon. And when given a chance he has been a good dramatic actor. So yeah, I think he would nail it.

[shirodead]

yeah maybe he could pull it off
heres a link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482630/

[Dragon_Prince]

Mike Myers can do it I guess, he drums, he can be a funny guy and just can act really well

[shirodead]

many of them are arguing that Jason Shwartzman should play Keith Moon. Me, I dont know this guy (hehe I know)

[Lunch]

I'd be happy with Myers doing it. The only problem I'd have with him is that he seems a little bit too old to be playing Moon, but other than that I think he'd be good.

[JohnXDoe]

I'd be happy with Myers doing it. The only problem I'd have with him is that he seems a little bit too old to be playing Moon, but other than that I think he'd be good.Yeah. A bit old. But not in the later years. And as you know he acts from behind make-up really well, so I think it sounds good. Just cover up some of those wrinkles, put a brandy in his hand and a gold chain around his neck, pour him into an all purple crushed velvet suit, and BAM, Keith Moon...

[Lunch]

Yea, very good point. I could see that.

By the way, when is this project supposed to get underway?

[JohnXDoe]

Yea, very good point. I could see that.

By the way, when is this project supposed to get underway?
You know, that's the thing. All the news I've seen for it says it's in "pre-production" or "in production" and what have you, but it's obviously not. The cast doesn't even seem to be chosen yet. Or a director, wtf? And I've never seen a report that says principal photography is scheduled to begin. Which means actual filming. So I have my doubts about it as of right now...

[Ephemeral]

More good news:

Hiwatt amps are becoming available to buy in the US and Canada again.

:cool:

[Lunch]

/turns amp up to "wu-oh!"

That reminds me, I haven't seen the Simpsons Episode with the Who in a long time, which is unfortunate.

[Ephemeral]

That was a pretty good one. I caught the end of it a few months ago again. I can't really remember much of what happened in it. :(

[MidnightRider]

I saw it about a month ago, I love The Simpsons.

I think Myers will make a good Moon. He's sort of crazy.

[Ephemeral]

Are The Who still in the book of world records for the loudest band ever?

[Seafroggys]

No, I think Manowar is the loudest band on record.

[Ephemeral]

Ah, I see.

:mad:

[Lunch]

Yea, but the Who will always own harder, so it doesn't really matter.

[Seafroggys]

^^exactly

I just got limewire, and with my new DSL, I can finally get music.

So I'm on a Who rampage. Specifically, a Live at Leeds rampage! OMG its so ****ing awesome! It sounds great! Entwistle sounds absolutly good on Heaven and Hell, where on Isle of Wight he sounds thin and weak.

Anyway, I downloaded a version of Heaven and Hell and it sounds like a studio version. I had no clue there was a studio version of that song!

[Lunch]

If this is the first time you're hearing Live at Leeds, you're in for a special treat. So much so that I envy you. That record is beyond amazing, and sound quality is fantastic.

[Ephemeral]

"Crackling noises have been corrected!"

@ Lunch, good point. The Who pwn harder than any other. :cool:

[JohnXDoe]

Manowar, lol....

[JohnXDoe]

ATTN: LUNCH

QUAD > TOMMY :smash:


That is all....

























....except for this:



:lol: lol (http://www.thewhoshow.com/index.html) :lol:

[Lunch]

Too bad they aren't coming anywhere near me, just like every other band I'd like to see. How hard is it for groups to come to the DC/Baltimore area? I would go see "The Who Show" if they played around me.

[Dragon_Prince]

You can go see them somewhere else, I'm going to Engalnd(From Holland) just to see them ...

What kind of fan are you? :P

[Lunch]

You can go see them somewhere else, I'm going to Engalnd(From Holland) just to see them ...

What kind of fan are you? :P

Not to see the Who Cover band, which is what we were just talking about. Of course I would travel forever to see the actual Who.

[Dragon_Prince]

Oh, so to which show are you going? (I ment the real Who) I'll be at hyde park calling :)

[Lunch]

I don't know yet because they haven't released American tour dates.

[temporary]

I don't know yet because they haven't released American tour dates.

If they don't come to Philly, I'll just catch a train up to New York (which they'll defnitly be going to.) I hope they get their old geezer asses over to America soon!

[Lunch]

I'm assuming they'll come to either DC or Baltimore, but I'll travel if I have too.

[Ephemeral]

I would go to see that Who tribute band if they came near me.

No one comes near me. :upset:

[Seafroggys]

not even your mom....

oh!

anyways, this wasn't answered in my last post, but was there a studio version for Heaven and Hell? Because I downloaded a version that sounds like a studio recording. It has that Who studio sound (different from the live sound) and there were no crowd noises, and it has a fade out.

[pigonthewing82]

I saw the Isle of Wight DVD today it was really good. I was supprised by the interview with Townsend at the end. I knew he was uphappy with the Who, but I never knew he hated it that much.

[Lunch]

Townshend despised the Who, but I think he always knew they were his bes vehicle for any type of musical success. Actually, the same pretty much goes for all members.

[pigonthewing82]

Yeah I remember him saying how he stayed in the group because he knew he worked well with them on a music level. I think I remember him saying how he was impressed by the other band member's ablility just to flow together on a song. As he should, no one can deny how the Who's musically are perfect for each other.

[PremierManiac]

It's kind of amazing how well they all worked with each other. I don't think any of them could have been successful in any other band.

[JohnXDoe]

I would go see "The Who Show" if they played around me.
Ugh. I can't take it, I tell 'ya. :smash:

I had the displeasure of seeing The Who Show around two and a half years ago at a local street fair. They were, um, do I need to be respectful? They were bad enough to almost be a parody. And whats with the singer? Roger did not move like that. Doesn't' really sing like that, either. I'm not sure if tribute bands are supposed to imitate or simply pay homage? Perhaps a little of both. They did neither very well. I was disappointed. Maybe they have gotten better. And the Quadrophenia production looks ambitious. But I still think the singer is a load.

Plus it's one thing to be a cover band, but to walk around life imitating another band right down to playing all their songs and mimicking their stage show? I think that's a bit cheeky.
I would go to see that Who tribute band if they came near me. No one comes near me. :upset:
That's because you are there. :lol:

[Ephemeral]

That's because you are there. :lol:
fu

>: (

[zabbit82]

That's because you are there. :lol:

Ouch....

I dunno about a Who tribute band. Seeing the guitarist immitate Pete, and Roger not being the vocals. I dont think I could take it...

[rockinbass17]

I'm not big on tribute bands, especially if the actual band is still around. Plus, I don't think anyone can immitate The Who live.

[dr._feelgood]

Well, only half the original band is still around.

800TH POST!

[Ephemeral]

Who are You came on the radio as me and my classmates were on the bus headed to bowling. :cool:

[shirodead]

what was keith moon saying in Isle of Wight that made pete slap him....:amaze:

[Seafroggys]

yeah i wondered that....those damn overheads weren't enough to get what he was saying

[JohnXDoe]

Do any of you have a custom Who playlist? I made one awhile back of a few faves and some under heard by me gems. Now they're all faves. I can listen to this for hours in a loop, and more. I used to keep the songs in chronilogical order, and that's fine, but it gets predictable. So now I keep it on the shuffle:

Slip Kid
Don't Let Go The Coat
905
Squeeze Box
The Quiet One
Dreamimg From The Waist
Dangerous
The Punk And The Godfather
Music Must Change
Eminence Front
I'm One
Trick Of The Light
Going Mobile
Guitar And Pen
The Seeker
You
Another Tricky Day
One At A Time
Cry If You Want
Sea And Sand
Blue, Red and Gray

So do you have a customized Who playlist? What do you think of mine? :wave:

[Lunch]

The Who before 1970 called, they wanted some representation.

I haven't made one, but it seems like a good idea. My only problem with yours is what I just said.

[Dragon_Prince]

So now The Who is touring what's more fun of making setlists of what you want to see :P

I'll start

I can't explain
3 new songs
Pinball wizard
The Punk And The Godfather
new song
The seeker
New song
The Magic Bus

Doctor Jimmy
Getting In Tune
Amazing Journey
The Kids Are Allright
Helpless Dancer
My Generation
Love Reign O'er Me
Who Are You

Baba O' Riley
Join Together
Won't Get Fooled Again
We're Not Gonna Take It

[Lunch]

I think we did that a little bit ago.

Here's a rough draft of what I would put on my Who playlist:
Live at Leeds


Ok, but seriously:
Heaven and Hell
Armenia, City in the Sky
The Seeker
Amazing Journey>Sparks
The Real Me
Young Man Blues
Success Story
Won't Get Fooled Again
My Generation
Slip Kid
The Relay
Baba O'Riley
The Punk and the Godfather
Rael
A Quick One
The Overture
We're Not Gonna Take It
5:15
Love Reign O'Er Me
Eminence Front
Join Together

[robo2448]

I made a Who playlist once. But then I just realized that I'd rather listen to Live At Leeds or Tommy than the playlist so I deleted it.

I'm not a huge fan of playlists. I prefer to listen to full albums, and it is impossible for me to narrow things down.

haha I remember the setlist I made. It could have filled a three day festival. Like I said, I can't narrow things down.

Edit- Yea I got the same problem as Lunch I guess. I couldn't have a playlist without all of Live At Leeds, and if a playlist is going to be like 50 songs, it kind of defeats the purpose. Maybe I'll try to make one again.

[JohnXDoe]

That's true, robo. I could never make one, either. Not a proper one. Like I said in the post, I took a few faves and some I haven't heard enough of from every album since Who's Next and made up a little list. For instance I don't hear enough of Who Are You or It's Hard because I don't care for those albums, so I selected a couple of favorite cuts off of those and John's cuts. Did that with Face Dances, as well. Although I like that album. I went lite on Quad and Who's Next cuts, because I've heard plenty of those, and I threw in some tuneful stuff from The Who By Numbers. It wasn't meant to be definitive. That playlist would be far too long....

[Riva]

Hey, you should have seen my dream Pink Floyd playlist I made once.

If I remember correctly, it was virtually six albums in their entirety. What a marathon for the old boys.

NP: The Swingers - Counting The Beat

[robo2448]

That's true, robo. I could never make one, either. Not a proper one. Like I said in the post, I took a few faves and some I haven't heard enough of from every album since Who's Next and made up a little list. For instance I don't hear enough of Who Are You or It's Hard because I don't care for those albums, so I selected a couple of favorite cuts off of those and John's cuts. Did that with Face Dances, as well. Although I like that album. I went lite on Quad and Who's Next cuts, because I've heard plenty of those, and I threw in some tuneful stuff from The Who By Numbers. It wasn't meant to be definitive. That playlist would be far too long....

I liked seeing The Quiet One on there. That might actually be my favorite John song and is definitely my favorite off of Facedances.

[zabbit82]

Slip Kid
Don't Let Go The Coat
905
Squeeze Box
The Quiet One
Dreamimg From The Waist
Dangerous
The Punk And The Godfather
Music Must Change
Eminence Front
I'm One
Trick Of The Light
Going Mobile
Guitar And Pen
The Seeker
You
Another Tricky Day
One At A Time
Cry If You Want
Sea And Sand
Blue, Red and Gray

So do you have a customized Who playlist? What do you think of mine? :wave:


I see You on there. When I listened to Face Dances on vinyl awhile ago, You and You Better You Bet were the only songs I liked on there. The rest of the album is too poppy for me. But You = great song.

Custom Who playlist, I'll do that later...

[pigonthewing82]

I couldn't make a Who play list. The Who are one of those bands that are so diverse in their sound that there are some songs or albums that I like more than others depending on my mood. I would have to make a play list for every one of my moods.

[Seafroggys]

hmmmmm

Heaven and Hell
Trick of the Light
905
Young Man Blues
Punk and the Godfather
A ballad other than Behind Blue Eyes (can't think of any though!)
Pinball Wizard

Baba O'Reilly
Go to the Mirror
Bargain
Who Are You
Christmas
Boris the Spider
Can't Explain
Won't Get Fooled Again

Overture
Behind Blue Eyes
See Me Feel Me/Listening to You

[Ephemeral]

My Who playlist would last a few hours.

It would be all of their albums.

[dr._feelgood]

I need to get some more Who albms. I only have Who's Next

[Ephemeral]

:eek:

You have to get more!

[JohnXDoe]

I need to get some more Who albms. I only have Who's Next
You really don't need that many more. Tommy, Quadrophenia, Live At Leads, The Who By Numbers, The Who Sellout (very interesting and arty record),Face Dances, The Kids Are Alright, Odds And Sods, Live At The Isle Of Wright Festival, The Who Sing My Generation, A Quick One....

Um, yeah. I guess you have some catching up to do. Those are all essential, IMO. And treat yourself to Pete Townshends "Empty Glass" solo album while you are at it.
:eek:

:wave:

[Ephemeral]

sup sup

[Seafroggys]

I need to get some more Who albms. I only have Who's Next

sacrilige! You don't even have their best albums!

[zabbit82]

I need to get some more Who albms. I only have Who's Next

:eek:

Get Quadrophenia, Who Are You, and The Who By Numbers! Quick!

Those are my favorites anyway...

[dr._feelgood]

I've downloaded a ton more Who songs, but I just like owning the albums.

[rockinbass17]

Besides what was suggested, pick up Tommy and Sell Out, for a different sound.

[Ephemeral]

Tommy is a must have.

[Lunch]

Tommy, Live at Leeds, Who's Next, and Quadrophenia is the essential collection. That's the bare minimum.

[Tusk]

The Who are incredible.. any band that can diversify between My Generation, Who Are You, and Happy Jack.. not to mention Boris the Spider.. belong on thrones. Ive heard their live act was insane, but havent had the pleasure of listening quite yet.

Absolute MUST haves: My Generation, Happy Jack (anyone who can sing along with this and not smile has problems), I Can See for Miles, Magic Bus, Pinball Wizard, Squeeze Box, Behind Blue Eyes, Who Are You, Won't Get Fooled Again, Cobwebs and Strange, I Can't Explain, Boris the Spider, and Baba O'Reily.

EDIT: Unless we do this by albums, how it seems to be usually done, in which case.. im outclassed by those who know more. :P

[Lunch]

Yea I usually just go ahead and suggest albums, but song recommendations are good too.

And yea, welcome to our fine Who thread. You really need to get your hands on Live at Leeds, the greatest live rock album ever.

[Ephemeral]

^ Pick up Live at Leeds if you want to hear some live stuff.

I recomend the deluxe version too.

EDIT: To Tusk.

:mad: You beat me to the recomendation, Lunch.

[pigonthewing82]

^ Pick up Live at Leeds if you want to hear some live stuff.

I recomend the deluxe version too.

EDIT: To Tusk.

:mad: You beat me to the recomendation, Lunch.

I love the who deluxe versions, they are always so much better than the original. The deluxe version of Who's Next is pretty good. I would say the deluxe version of Live at Leeds and Who's Next is the best place for any Who fan to start.

[Lunch]

I've asked this before, but do you think you could upload/send me the second disc of the Who's Next Deluxe edition? I really want to get my hand on that live material.

I offer e-head in return. And by that I mean I'll upload something for you.

[Ephemeral]

I don't have the deluxe edition of Who's Next. :(

I should have searched more for it.

I second Lunch's motion.

[Tusk]

Ive heard Live at Leeds kicked azz from others... since thats the best live Who experience I can get (unless there's a concert DVD like Zep's?), ill be sure to take that advice when I go hunting for music tomorrow.. aka the mall with a lady friend. :rolleyes:

9 CD's on my list already *prays for checking account to survive* Thanks guys.. and hey, three makes a party, just one of you might not have been enough. :p

[Ephemeral]

Hope your bank account holds up for you!

Especially when you have the lady friend coming along...

Oh, and welcome to the forums.

[Lunch]

The Isle at Wight DVD is pretty good, similar set list to Live at Leeds. The performance isn't quite the same calibur though. And the Kids Are Alright DVD is a great movie stretching the Who's whole career, at least up until Keith Moon died in 1978.

[pigonthewing82]

I've asked this before, but do you think you could upload/send me the second disc of the Who's Next Deluxe edition? I really want to get my hand on that live material.

I offer e-head in return. And by that I mean I'll upload something for you.

I'm so sorry, my computer is very slow and can't upload albums. Next year I'll have a faster computer hopefully able to do it, but that is a long way away. You might wanna cheak with some other people in the forums who might have it. I think its worth it.

[Tusk]

Thanks buuuuds. Hey.. fwq.. your icon is nearly as awetastic as JonG's. Heh.. I keep wanting to see what happens next; that guy cracks me up, just turns and looks. *laughs* good stuff.

I might think about the Isle of Wight DVD. If its not that much more money, ill probably spend a bit more for the visuals.. cause when it comes to live, I want that concert experience.. depends on how much $ ive already spent, and whether the DVD ends up costing a lot more. Live at Leeds is definately on my list though. A friend just sent me I'm A Boy.. loved it.

"Glad to see you coming over to the light side man." That bastard.. lol.

[pigonthewing82]

Yeah I would put my money towards Live at Leeds before the Isle of Wright DVD.

A good Who live clip, short as it may be, is on the Montery Pop Festivle DVD set. They have a really energetic version of My Generation and they smash their instruments at the end. I love watching Keith Moon adjusting his shirt in between drum rolls. Hes too much. All around the Montery Pop Festivle DVD is great. Of course Hendrix's preformance is outstanding, I think its his best visually. I just can't get over Wild Thing. Not just when he burns his guitar but when he drops to the floor and does the backwards summersault while still playing and dosen't miss a note. Amazing. I sometimes wonder if it wasn't for the Who if he would have set his guitar on fire. I know one of the reasons he did it was because he was going on after the Who and didn't want to be upstaged by their instrument smashing so he lit his guitar on fire before he smashed it.

[Lunch]

I love Hendrix's show, but as a Who fan first and foremost he definitely stole a lot of Townshend's act. Actually when Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton first saw Hendrix, they told Pete the next time they saw him that this new guitarist was stealing his idea.

[pigonthewing82]

Yeah Hendrix defenetly took some of his stage moves from Townsend. I could even spot a few while watching the Isle of Wright DVD. Though Hendrix was innovative in enough ways to borrow a couple ideas from other people with out calling it a sin.

[JohnXDoe]

I love Hendrix's show, but as a Who fan first and foremost he definitely stole a lot of Townshend's act. Actually when Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton first saw Hendrix, they told Pete the next time they saw him that this new guitarist was stealing his idea.
Yeah, and then when Townshend confronted him at Woodstock Hendrix told him to f off and threatened to kick his arse. Pete's feelings were hurt, reportedly. Because he liked and respected Jimi as a musician.

Pete should of cracked a guitar over his head. :smash:

And speaking of head, I may take you up on some of that e head, Lunch. If I can figure out what I can do for you....

....your just lucky I live 3000 miles away from you. Because if not, the "e" part wouldn't even figure, lol.

Oh, and on another note, your little thread here seems to be thriving. I would dare to say that since MX is the 35th or 36th largest message board in the world and certainly one of the biggest devoted to music and musicians, this thread may be one of the biggest and certainly one of the best Who threads around. I don't even think that Who board link you supplied awhile back has this kind of action and quality. So good going, man. This thing started a couple of weeks after I first got here and it's really sometihng I look forward to. And the fact that we aren't fanboys in here is really refreshing. With a band as flawed as The Who you really can't afford to be a fanboy, I don't think. And I still think it's those flaws, the imperfections of this band, that is one of the things that makes them so special.

I enjoy discussing the music and songs of this band. The focus for me when it comes to The Who has always been the spirit of the band, the words and music of Townshend, and his band that brought it all together. It really is hard to describe. And I guess that's why this band is so great.

Anyway, I'm happy to be here amongst all you Who Heads and yes, welcome to all the more recent members of this thread and newcomers alike. At gamefaqs.com where I post on rare occasion and steal thread topics for my alt account here, they have a little Who Board titled "Tommy's Interactive Experiance". Or some crap like that. It's pathetic. It's been there forever, 77 posts total in over 6 months, 50 of those are spam, and yet some are sincere, lol. I've often thought of leaving a link for the faithful, but imagine what that might get us? Well, probably not too much, since I think a total of 5 people post there. Better to leave well enough alone.

Long Live Rock, and all that good stuff. See 'ya....

[Lunch]

I'll drink to that.


Hendrix was such an amazing and innovative guitarist, he really didn't need to smash/burn his guitar. People were already blown away by his performance, and he shows weren't really based on anger and aggression the way the Who's were at the time of the auto-destruction.

[Ephemeral]

I had heard that the guitar that Hendrix burnt was actually one of Townsends. He stole it from right under Townsend's big nose!

[Tusk]

Mmmm... im really enjoying Live at Leeds, I got the deluxe edition.. and it was worth it; even if just for incredible Moon-age.

[Ephemeral]

Mmmm... im really enjoying Live at Leeds, I got the deluxe edition.. and it was worth it; even if just for incredible Moon-age.
Sweet.

Did you buy any other albums?

[Riva]

TALKIN' 'BOUTMAH GENERATION

[robo2448]

Wild Thing at Monterey is amazing.

I like the new thread name.

I just bought my second copy of Live At Leeds deluxe editon today. Hopefully I won't ever need to buy another one, but it'll probably end up all scratched up and unplayable like the last one did eventually. I felt like such a badass driving around today pumping Live At Leeds.

[Tusk]

Sweet.

Did you buy any other albums?

Picked up a few other albums because of recommendations from earlier in the CR thread.

Abbey Road and Rubber Soul by the fab four. *tries in vain to impersonate a Liverpool accent*

Truth by Jeff Beck

aaand a big pack of blanks. I held back big time, was proud of myself.

[Lunch]

Mmmm... im really enjoying Live at Leeds, I got the deluxe edition.. and it was worth it; even if just for incredible Moon-age.

Everything is incredible on that album, but Moon shines maybe the most. His energy and stamina are unbelievable.

Entwistle is right up there with him though. Heaven and Hell is such a great launching pad for their drum and bass fill combination.

[robo2448]

Picked up a few other albums because of recommendations from earlier in the CR thread.

Abbey Road and Rubber Soul by the fab four. *tries in vain to impersonate a Liverpool accent*

Truth by Jeff Beck

aaand a big pack of blanks. I held back big time, was proud of myself.

Awesome. Live At Leeds Deluxe Edition, Abbey Road, and Rubber Soul are in my top 5 albums ever list. And Truth is great too. Beck's playing is fantastic, and personally I don't really mind Stewart's voice but some do.

[Ephemeral]

\:D/

A thread name change!

(with a lyric that townsend now regrets writing.)

[Lunch]

Yea, but it's one of the most important statements ever made in rock 'n roll. Actually, probably the most important song lyric to really exemplify what rock is all about.

I was just about to mention that I really dig the thread title change.

[PinkFreud]

Ya'll can thank JXD for the new name. He brought it up in the Ask The Mods thread. His love for all things relating to the Who knows no bounds.

[Lunch]

Yea I saw that. I didn't comment though cause I didn't have any input.

[Tusk]

Wow guys... I had always considered Moon to be one of the absolute greats in drumming.. but felt that he lacked raw power, especially compared to a guy like Bonham. That may be a blasphemic statement on its own, and it certainly feels that way now. Bonham is still (and may well forever be) my favorite musician period, but Moon has captured a much larger amount of my heart with Live at Leeds.

Just goes to show how perception can change of a band based on live material. I always loved Cobwebs and Strange, and his wild fills in their studio stuff.. but wow. Very nice. The whole rhythm teamwork between Moon and Entwistle is as good as it gets on this album.

And yea, about THE musical statement of the 60s. I thought that as he aged, Townsend modified what he meant to not really say old aged, but old as in a state of mind. You can be 70 years old but still have fun.. im with him there. Hope I die before I get old.

[robo2448]

Yeah Moon on LaL... he's just everywhere. Absolutely insane. Blows my mind every single time.

[Lunch]

I really can't say enough about how incredible Moon and Entwislte are together. The musicianship is outstanding. I love the way they can carry a whole song, and how they open up so many doors for Pete to do whatever he wants. He's not much of a solo guitarist, but he's able to put what he can do over this pure wall of sound and energy supplied from John and Keith and that makes the whole show sound better.

My favorite part on the Isle of Wight DVD is the part in Young Man Blues where Pete windmills and then lets his guitar slide down, then he hits a
couple more windmills and shakes his guitar. Not only is Pete great to watch at this point, but it's so stunning to hear the sound Entwislte and Moon produce behind Townshend's one chord. I would give anything to see the Who in 1970.


I've always loved Moon and Bonham for a number of reasons, but their driving stamina is something that has to be respected. They kept up that power and volume for three hours a night, I can't even comprehend that.

[Substitute]

Also just wanted to say Sparks live is one of the greatest things I've ever seen or heard.

Yes man, yes!! Sparks is my favorite song, and Live at Leeds and the Isle Of Wight fest are sadly the only two live recordings I have of that song. But it's still so godly.
If anyone here owns the Maximum R n' B Box Set or even a downloading program, have you heard the song The Ox? I think it was mainly a collaborative effort but Entwistle gets credit for it. It's probably one of the greatest songs in The Who's history, and one of my all-time favorites. Definitely, definitely check it out if you are any sort of Who fan.

Thanks.:thumb:

[pigonthewing82]

One of my favorite stories about Moon is one time they were late going to the airport and all of a sudden Keith yelled "oh my god I forgot something" and thinking it was something like drugs they turned around. He ran up to the hotel room, threw the TV out the window, and said "ok now we can go" :p

To Tusk: I remember when I realized how great Moon was. It was around then that the Who became one of my favorite bands.

[Ephemeral]

I agree with Lunch on the Moon - Entwistle combination. They created just such a large wall of sound that was able to support Pete wherever he went, and it was always huge. There were never any times where the music felt empty. Not once. This is just further re-enforced when listening to LaL.

[rockinbass17]

Well, the most important thing in a rythem section is the marriage between bassist and drummer...needless to say, Moon and Entwistle were possibly had the tightest marriage ever between bass and drums. (though I would hardly call them a "rythem section".

Woah, the name change made me miss this thread for a while.
It's nice though. :thumb:

[Riva]

Has any seen footage of Norman Gunston having water dumped on him by Keith Moon?

Norman is this rather famous Aussie comedian who made a big name for himself playing a pale, balding reporter with several shaving cuts. He was a real icon, and it's amazing the celebrities he got access to. Most of them were Americans, who are born without a sense of humour, but most of the Brits he interviewed got it.

Anyways, he asked Keith a few questions about what's the best way to throw a TV out of a window. He kept at it, and Keith got a cup of water, poured it over Norman's head, and then called him an "Aussie Slag".

Apparently, though, Keith laughed about it afterwards when someone told him it was actually a joke.

[Lunch]

Yes man, yes!! Sparks is my favorite song, and Live at Leeds and the Isle Of Wight fest are sadly the only two live recordings I have of that song. But it's still so godly.
If anyone here owns the Maximum R n' B Box Set or even a downloading program, have you heard the song The Ox? I think it was mainly a collaborative effort but Entwistle gets credit for it. It's probably one of the greatest songs in The Who's history, and one of my all-time favorites. Definitely, definitely check it out if you are any sort of Who fan.

Thanks.:thumb:

The Ox is on the Who's debut album too. It's pretty cool, nice little surf-rock touch to the R&B they were playing at the time.

I really dig that avatar too man. I used to have that picture as my desktop for awhile.

[Tusk]

One of my favorite stories about Moon is one time they were late going to the airport and all of a sudden Keith yelled "oh my god I forgot something" and thinking it was something like drugs they turned around. He ran up to the hotel room, threw the TV out the window, and said "ok now we can go" :p

HAHA! Great stuff, I needed that laugh.

Speaking of GREAT rock stories, not as much for laughs or shock value as to imagine the fscking crowd, I know you guys are Who fans, but everyone can appriciate this. http://www.led-zeppelin.com/spotlight/keithmoon77.html

[PinkFreud]

There are rumors that after recording "The Ox," Moonie passed out over his drumset.

[pigonthewing82]

There are rumors that after recording "The Ox," Moonie passed out over his drumset.

Speaking of Moon passing out, how would you love to be the guy who was plucked from the crowd to replace a passed out Moon for one of the shows. I mean honestly whever I go to a show before I go I always have some kind of fantesy of whoever I'm seeing say "oh it turns out that we need someone to play guitar with us for the show so could Jim Daly please come up" And that guy got to do it. Though talk about something to live up to.

[PremierManiac]

Speaking of Moon passing out, how would you love to be the guy who was plucked from the crowd to replace a passed out Moon for one of the shows. I mean honestly whever I go to a show before I go I always have some kind of fantesy of whoever I'm seeing say "oh it turns out that we need someone to play guitar with us for the show so could Jim Daly please come up" And that guy got to do it. Though talk about something to live up to.
If my memory serves me right, that guy was Scott Halpin.

[pigonthewing82]

Does anybody know how he did? I mean I assume that he did well because otherwise I don't think it would be as well known, but like I said replacing Moon certainly is somthing to live up to.

[PremierManiac]

According to both Before I Get Old: The Story of the Who by David Marsh, and vh1 he did just fine, considering who's shoes he was filling.

[pigonthewing82]

Good for him, hes defenetly in the top ten luckiest people on the planet in my mind.

[shirodead]

I need to get some more Who albms. I only have Who's Next
heh dont worry, were the same. Except mine is their greatest hits. If I order from another country that will cost way too much for me but if I download their songs there's something lacking in it. I dont know, I tend to appreciate music more if I buy the album.
But I do have the isle of wight dvd

[StreetlightRock]

Hey, nice name change. Its so anthemic, I love it!

[Riva]

Good thing they had a decent drummer in the audience, then.

[JohnXDoe]

I've asked this before, but do you think you could upload/send me the second disc of the Who's Next Deluxe edition? I really want to get my hand on that live material.I offer e-head in return. And by that I mean I'll upload something for you.
I don't have the deluxe edition of Who's Next. :( I should have searched more for it. I second Lunch's motion.
I'm not sure if I have it or not? I keep hearing of a Who's Next with bonus (Deluxe?) live material. But I've never seen it. Have I?

What I have is what my music service offers. It's Who's Next with what sound like alt takes of Pure and Easy, Baby Don't You Do It, Too Much Of Anything, Behind Blues Eyes, Naked Eye, Water, and I Don't Even Know Myself. It's real good stuff, but it's not "live". Although a few cuts sound like they may of been recorded "live in the studio" to some extent. Moon is great on Don't You Do It Baby. These cuts are of interest and are desirable, but certainly not what I think Lunch and you are describing. It's very good, but not completely unfamiliar to Who fans.
The Isle at Wight DVD is pretty good, similar set list to Live at Leeds. The performance isn't quite the same calibur though. And the Kids Are Alright DVD is a great movie stretching the Who's whole career, at least up until Keith Moon died in 1978.
You are right about the performances. The Leeds shows were just great. And to think they would do that on a nightly basis. And since you mention TKAA I want to mention the VHS/DVD 30 Years Of Maximum R&B. Out of print VHS Available at Amazon used for under $10. A crazy price. Lunch and anyone else who has not seen this, it is a must have. You must own it. VHS or not. If you have an old VCR around, BUY IT NOW. Go to Amazon and read the reviews for yourself. The out of print DVD is a valued collectors item. Amazon has them. Used prices start at $60.00. New in a sealed package prices start at $87.00. That may give you an idea of what you are missing. I tell you what, even though I have the VHS, I am very tempted to grab a DVD. Even at those prices. It's just that good.

Great posting yesterday. I missed it all. I want to address many of these other posts but am so tired I can barely keep my eyes open. Only two hours sleep coming, too. If I am lucky. I'll get to all this good stuff later. I really can't even read right now. I just wanted to give you all a heads up about the 30 Years Of Maximum R&B video....


EDIT: The 30 Years Of Maximum R&B video is not a matching peice to the audio CD box set of the same name. So don't be fooled by the name. It's altogether a whole other thing.

EDIT 2: I'm exactly 40 posts behind you in this thread, Lunch. Counting my 23 posts on my first JohnXDoe account, before it was accidentally deleted less then a month into my membership here.. I WILL overcome. :p

[Substitute]

I really dig that avatar too man. I used to have that picture as my desktop for awhile.
Thanks. I saw it in an Uncut magazine so I looked around for it. I have a few decent pictures of Moon exploding his kit with fireworks too. And a rare video drum solo(Not the damned goldfish one).

[DeusExMachina]

Quadrophenia is awesome. I've been listening to it so much lately.

[Lunch]

Thanks for the headsup John, I'll definitely look into that. I didn't even know there was a video until a little bit ago, but it's definitely peaked my interest since I heard about it. I have a VCR still hooked up to my TV in the basement so it would be great to get a copy of it.

[JohnXDoe]

Here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6303158587/ref=pd_rhf_p_3/103-3369583-1523028?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=gla) is a link for purchase and buyer reviews. Buyer review 1, 3, and 5 are especially insightful and accurate. It really is good stuff. And because the Charlton gig footage has Bell Boy, well, it's just great watching Keith do those vocals.

Also featured is bootleg video of Moon passing out at The Cow Palace in 'Cisco and that guy from the audience getting behind his kit. Pete asking from the stage if anyone can play drums. It's kind of moving, too. Because I think at that point Roger is talking in interview about the incident kind of sadly and then they just show the guy get behind the drums, the band launch's into the song, the guy picks up the beat, and the director fades to black. Sort of symbolizing the beginning of the end. So far as it went at the time. The footage is poor quality but clear, and the sound is audible. But the quality is not really the point. It captures the moment. A moment of Who legend. And it's kind of startling and sad to see given what we know now.

And as one Amazon reviewer said, it has great Kenny clips, too. Even after Moon died this was still a working rock n roll band. And they are powerful with Jones behind the kit as well. Plus it covers the tragedy in Cincinatti. Just excellent.

[pigonthewing82]

I'm not sure if I have it or not? I keep hearing of a Who's Next with bonus (Deluxe?) live material. But I've never seen it. Have I?

What I have is what my music service offers. It's Who's Next with what sound like alt takes of Pure and Easy, Baby Don't You Do It, Too Much Of Anything, Behind Blues Eyes, Naked Eye, Water, and I Don't Even Know Myself. It's real good stuff, but it's not "live". Although a few cuts sound like they may of been recorded "live in the studio" to some extent. Moon is great on Don't You Do It Baby. These cuts are of interest and are desirable, but certainly not what I think Lunch and you are describing. It's very good, but not completely unfamiliar to Who fans.


I'm not sure what you have, your bonus disk is different from mine. Mine has alternet takes of Baby Don't You Do It, Getting in Tune, Pure and Easy, Love Ain't For Keeping, Behind Blue Eyes, and Won't Get Fooled Again on the first disk in edition to the album. The second disck is live at the Young Vic.

I've decided to learn all of Tommy on guitar and vocals. I've always wanted to learn a rock oprea and even though I know most of the harder songs to play on the Wall I would rather learn Tommy. I'm can't wait I've never tried to tackel something like this with my music before. I hope it turns out good.

[JohnXDoe]

^Yeah, yours sounds good, too. I have Who's Next on vinyl, so I use my music service for listening and stuff. And I don't know what version I have. This is a bit confusing. I have no idea what Lunch is talking about. And the place I download music from (allofmp3.com) has all the Who albums ever made except Who's Next!. So I can't really go there for answers. Usually when they sell albums it's with all the original bonus material as well. But no Who's Next whatsoever. Weird. I want what Lunch is talking about. Which seems to be a bonus live disc. But I just don't know. :confused:

[Lunch]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008LOS1/ref=pd_kar_gw_2/103-8289432-6348600?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=5174

This is what I'm talking about. The second disc is Live at the Young Vic.

[Ephemeral]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008LOS1/ref=pd_kar_gw_2/103-8289432-6348600?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=5174

This is what I'm talking about. The second disc is Live at the Young Vic.
Yeah, that's the one.

[JohnXDoe]

Damn you guys, I might need that. Like heroin. :(

14 live tracks including Who's Next cuts!

Why doesn't the place I buy music from have this? Of all things not to have! :angry:

[JohnXDoe]

Alright, to compensate for not having that I just pulled seven live cuts off of Thirty Years If Maximum R&B. Three of which are from the Young Vic gig. Bonie Moronie is great!

Yay.

[Lunch]

I really like that box set. Disk 1 is great because you can get most of their early material (that wasn't on an album) in one place. I like disk three also mainly because I could get my hands on The Seeker, The Relay, Let's See Action, and Join Together. I actually don't mind the alternate take of the Real Me either. While it certainly doesn't compare to the original, Entwistle really shines at the end of the song.

[JohnXDoe]

^Yeah. I'm thinking of downloading it for ownership. It will cost me under $7 for 192kbps, over $8 for 320kbps. Most of my stuff was downloaded in 192kbps though, so I'll just stick to that. I don't hear any difference.

I'll give it a full listen first from my service. Maybe I'll just pull the rare and unreleased cuts off. The High Numbers songs are of interest to me. And I see the entire collection has been remixed. That should be interesting. This really is an excellent collection I've never really taken a look at before. It's a fine set of 95 songs.

[Lunch]

I bought it for my dad a couple years back, before I got huge into the Who again. Lucky for me I became a big fan and that set definitely was a benefit to have around the house.

[JohnXDoe]

^Been listening to these live cuts for awhile tonite. Really great stuff. You know, The Who were always great live, but I think after Leeds and Wright and Tommy they were even better. And there is really no defintive live recording of them from this period. Except on that bonus 'Next disk. Which I will have to obtain now. After the Tommy/Quad DVD. But even with that I feel The Who of this period are a little under heard live. Except for TKAA . I love the stuff on that. And the things I am hearing from The Maximum R&B set. "I'm a Man" is tremendous. This sounds like the "big band" Who of '89. I'm sure it is. It's awesome. I also like hearing the various versions of Bargin and My Wife from the early and mid seventies. Twist and Shout from '82 with John on lead vocals is great. That's one they have done from way back. Naked Eye is great, but the real stand out is Bony Moronie. Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly all over that thing. It's obvious from this track the band know how rock n roll is supposed to be played. I can't imagine what Won't Get Fooled Again sounds like on that bonus disc. But I'm gonna find out. :)

EDIT: And Dreaming From The Waist. John kills on that track. I don't know how the man played like that. And he was never showy onstage or pompous about his ability. He just stood there and played. All those years just stnnding and being great. That was class. And I don't know how he played like this without becoming tiresome or wearing out his welcome. His bass was effortlessly an integral and equal part of the music. I love it when Pete is just power chording over everything and John is running those bass lines with Keith pushing the whole thing from behind. In any other band, no matter what, the drummer keeps or sets in pace with the band. In The Who, the band had better keep pace with the drummer when Keith was behind the kit. That's one of the things that made Keith so great. And John. They were not background players. They were right out front. And not like prog rockers or the virtuosos, but as musicians playing songs. I think anyone who knows The Who's music understands what that means. It's just brilliant.

[JohnXDoe]

I'm not sure what you have, your bonus disk is different from mine. Mine has alternet takes of Baby Don't You Do It, Getting in Tune, Pure and Easy, Love Ain't For Keeping, Behind Blue Eyes, and Won't Get Fooled Again on the first disk in edition to the album. The second disck is live at the Young Vic. I've decided to learn all of Tommy on guitar and vocals.

I've always wanted to learn a rock oprea and even though I know most of the harder songs to play on the Wall I would rather learn Tommy. I'm can't wait I've never tried to tackel something like this with my music before. I hope it turns out good.

Seems as if a few Who's Next bonus cuts editions are out and about. Very confusing.

Very interesting and ambitious you learning Tommy. Will you learn the live version as well? That would be interesting because it is somewhat different. Pete playing parts arranged for other instruments on his guitar for instance.

[Riva]

My version of Who's Next has bonus versions of I Don't Know Myself, and Behind Blue Eyes.

[Lunch]

I have the single CD with bonus tracks of Pure and Easy, Baby Don't You Do It, Naked Eye, Water, Too Much of Anything, I Don't Even Know Myself, and unreleased Behind Blue Eyes.

[Riva]

Well, than that's very similar to mine, Mike.

[pigonthewing82]

Seems as if a few Who's Next bonus cuts editions are out and about. Very confusing.

Very interesting and ambitious you learning Tommy. Will you learn the live version as well? That would be interesting because it is somewhat different. Pete playing parts arranged for other instruments on his guitar for instance.

Yeah I hope to find the live versions. Well I haven't been able to find many live versions on the internet yet but I've found Sparks, Overture, and Were Not Gonna Take it live. I think what I might do is substitute some of the other arranged instruments with my own interpitation, rather than how Pete subsituted it. That way making it more of my own. I've always wanted to learn a rock oprea so I figured Tommy would be great. I would love to play it live one day once I've learned it all. This is the most excited that I've ever been learning something on guitar before as I've never done anything like this before but always wanted to.

[zabbit82]

My dad has Who's Next on vinyl (I listen to them on that format quite a bit) and I have the CD without the bonus tracks.

Actually, my dad has every Who album on vinyl, but not A Quick One or Who Sell Out at all.

I love listening to Who on original vinyl records, especialy Quadrophenia. Sounds so goooddd.... :)

[JohnXDoe]

My version of Who's Next has bonus versions of I Don't Know Myself, and Behind Blue Eyes.
I have the single CD with bonus tracks of Pure and Easy, Baby Don't You Do It, Naked Eye, Water, Too Much of Anything, I Don't Even Know Myself, and unreleased Behind Blue Eyes.
Well, than that's very similar to mine, Mike.
Yup, ditto. So we just have the standard versions with some freebies thrown in. Looks like we're all in the same boat before someone springs upwards of $30 for the "Deluxe" version with the Young Vic material and uploads it to the MX Who faithful. I'm buying the Tommy/Quad DVD next, so don't look at me. :(

On the same note, kind of, the DVD won "Best Bonus Footage" for a music DVD at the "DVD Music Awards" held in Beverly Hills last month. It was the second annual presentation, lol. I doubt if the band flew in for that one :-\
Yeah I hope to find the live versions. Well I haven't been able to find many live versions on the internet yet but I've found Sparks, Overture, and Were Not Gonna Take it live. I think what I might do is substitute some of the other arranged instruments with my own interpitation, rather than how Pete subsituted it. That way making it more of my own. I've always wanted to learn a rock oprea so I figured Tommy would be great. I would love to play it live one day once I've learned it all. This is the most excited that I've ever been learning something on guitar before as I've never done anything like this before but always wanted to.
Well as you know Live At Leeds and Live At The Isle Of Wright contain full performances. I doubt if there are any tabs or sheet music around for those, though. That would be crazy. They would have to come up with a feedback note, lol. Once you learn the "studio" version I figure you could just plug in and play along and improvise. Sounds like Pete was doing that onstage half the time, anyway. Have fun, man. And let us know how it's coming....

[pigonthewing82]

Well as you know Live At Leeds and Live At The Isle Of Wright contain full performances. I doubt if there are any tabs or sheet music around for those, though. That would be crazy. They would have to come up with a feedback note, lol. Once you learn the "studio" version I figure you could just plug in and play along and improvise. Sounds like Pete was doing that onstage half the time, anyway. Have fun, man. And let us know how it's coming....

Thanks I'm sure I'll have fun. I'll be sure to keep everyone posted though I think it will be a long process as I'm not stopping learning any other songs but the ones on Tommy. I'm starting with the ones I know best. I've got Pinball Wizard, I'm Free and Were Not Gonna Take It down pretty well. I'm working on Christmas and 1921, but don't have them down all that well yet. I think next I'll move to the Overture, The Amazing Journy and Sparks.

[Lunch]

The first part of Sparks has like my favorite chords ever. The transition from Amazing Journey>Sparks is probably my single favorite moment in all music I've heard. It's beautiful.

[rockinbass17]

Let's not forget about the wonderful bass solo that comes immediatly after the opening chords.

Wow, that whole song really is perfect.
Sparks pwns all.

[Tusk]

After hearing Live at Leeds, im interested. Ill look around tomorrow.. though im warning you now, no cash. It wont come from a personal hard copy.. i'll have to count on the good people who own it out there and dont mind sharing.

Deluxe edition of 'Who's Next.' Its on my to do list tomorrow. :)

EDIT: Should have it by tomorrow. I dont know where to upload any files to, or how to do it though...

[JohnXDoe]

^Please, someone give the man above directions. I can't 'cause I know nothing about it myself. Oh, and I need directions on how to download the upload.

Tusk, if you come through with this the live Young Vic bonus material will be good enough. I will be in Who debt to you for the ages. I'm not sure if this is an alt account of if you are an April '06 sign up, but if you are new you are the best newb ever. :)

[Lunch]

To upload an album for people on Mx, what you do is you rip the CD onto your computer, then you send the CD folder to a zip (compressed) folder. Then using www.yousendit.com you can browse your computer files, so click on the zip folder and hit upload. It will take a couple minutes, but when it's finished yousendit will give you a link. Giving this link to other people allows them to click on it and then download the zip folder.

DO NOT POST the link here. Posting uploaded copyrighted material is a big no-no around here now, so what we'll do is give out email addresses if you can get a hold of the album, and would be so kind to upload it. Let me know if you have any questions about it.

Like John, I would owe you a lot if you could help us get our hands on this live material.

[JohnXDoe]

Like John, I would owe you a lot if you could help us get our hands on this live material.
Indeed Lunch. I would call that a bargain the best I ever had, lol :rolleyes:

[Lunch]

Nice one fag. lol pwned amirite?!?1

[JohnXDoe]

Word, bitch. What's for breaKfast and dinner, lol....:smash:

/waits for "your mom" answer

[Tusk]

Alright... I got Who's Next Deluxe edition on my computer. CD 2 was a tad bit too large.. 140 MB's, which presented a huge problem.. but I have a (crappy) mp3 resampler that I used to shrink 6 of the biggest files from 256 kb/s to 128 (those have the number 128 in the filename).

Its a 98.7 Mb file at the moment that I went ahead and sent along to JXD, Lunch, and fwqhgads.. I wasnt sure if rockinbass, pig or riva wanted it.

Lunch's email was easy.. he's on the mail list for the R&M forum.. fwqhgads, I found on the site.. but JXD.. I am indeed a noob, so yours might not be right.. troy@xtheband.com?

Anyhow, you guys enjoy (I hope it works). It'll be waiting in those inboxes in about half an hour. :)

[Lunch]

Awesome man, I really appreciate it.

/goes to check mailbox like kid on Christmas morning.

//Not like Tommy though, he doesn't know who Jesus was or what praying is. what a n00b

[JohnXDoe]

Tusk, dude. Great. My email is xfanman@sbcglobal.net. Please, please, please send it out. I really appreciate this....

[Tusk]

Hey.. its no problem.. this is great stuff, im happy having it and sharing it!

I cant seem to find the link.. so I think this is uploading all over again. It'll be another half hour. :-/ But it is on its way.

This time ill save the upload link somewhere for anyone else who might want it. :rolleyes: Sorry about that

[JohnXDoe]

No need for sorrys. And without over doing it, really, thanks once again. Hard to convey on a message board, but sincerely given nonetheless. :chug:

[JohnXDoe]

Just got it. Listening now. How incredible is this? Damn! Thanks once again, Tusk. I'm gonna workout while listening to this. Be back latter to comment. Love Ain't For Keeping and an incredble Pure And Easy so far. Fantastic.

[Ephemeral]

Guys!

Okay. I was listening to the radio, and the one announcer was talking about the upcoming Who tour. She said, 'Wouldn't it be awesome to see them play live? You never know. Hint hint hint.'

Man

I HOPE this means they are coming to Calgary. I'm very excited.

EDIT: And thank you so much Tusk, for the album. You rock!

[JohnXDoe]

WTF with Pete? "Please, no dancing until later. We're doing a whole new show and have to remember the chords and can't be distracted".

PUTZ!!

[[Fonya]]

Alright... I got Who's Next Deluxe edition on my computer. CD 2 was a tad bit too large.. 140 MB's, which presented a huge problem.. but I have a (crappy) mp3 resampler that I used to shrink 6 of the biggest files from 256 kb/s to 128 (those have the number 128 in the filename).

Its a 98.7 Mb file at the moment that I went ahead and sent along to JXD, Lunch, and fwqhgads.. I wasnt sure if rockinbass, pig or riva wanted it.

Lunch's email was easy.. he's on the mail list for the R&M forum.. fwqhgads, I found on the site.. but JXD.. I am indeed a noob, so yours might not be right.. troy@xtheband.com?

Anyhow, you guys enjoy (I hope it works). It'll be waiting in those inboxes in about half an hour. :)



Hey, could you send this to me too please? Im not a regular here unlike D&P but I really enjoy classic rock. If you can't no problem.

My email is its_me_paulc@hotmail.com


Thanks

[PinkFreud]

Any chance anyone can forward that link to me? I'd sure appreciate it.

[JohnXDoe]

Any chance anyone can forward that link to me? I'd sure appreciate it.
Done...


drumsgetchicks I didn't foward it to you because I don't know how this works exactly. As in two people downloading at the same time. I'll send it later if no one else does.

[JohnXDoe]

It's interesting to hear Won't Get Fooled Again this early on. They hadn't worked it out yet. Sound very tentative playing with the backing track. And the second bridge is interesting, as well. Glad they worked it out. Bargain still being worked out as well, from the sound of it. Great stuff!

[[Fonya]]

Hey, Im at the computer right now if you want to send it. I dont know if the other guy is done but Im getting off soon so it would be great if I could download it tonight. Doesnt matter when though, I just hope to get it. Thanks

[JohnXDoe]

Hey, Im at the computer right now if you want to send it. I dont know if the other guy is done but Im getting off soon so it would be great if I could download it tonight. Doesnt matter when though, I just hope to get it. Thanks
Alright. Give me a sec and it will be there......

[[Fonya]]

Great, thanks alot dude...means alot to me!

[PinkFreud]

Hmm. I still didn't get it. Not a problem.

Pinkfreud2100@aol.com

:( Thanks guys. Sorry to be a bother.

[Ephemeral]

This is great stuff. The Who live just sounds so good.

[JohnXDoe]

Done....

Pink I get a "failed delivery" at your "2001" aol address. Has it changed? I see an aim screen name in your profile, but am not sure if that is email also....

[PinkFreud]

Done....

Pink I get a "failed delivery" at your "2001" aol address. Has it changed? I see an aim screen name in your profile, but am not sure if that is email also....
You can send it to the aim thing too.

Pinkfreud05@aim.com

[[Fonya]]

Downloaded it as we speak, 30% done. Thanks again.

[JohnXDoe]

You can send it to the aim thing too.

Pinkfreud05@aim.com
I just resent at aol. Let me know, and if not, I'll try aim.

[PinkFreud]

Still nothing. Sorry, man.

[Tusk]

Thanks for taking care of all of this JXD. I sent the link to your AIM account Freud.. dunno if you got it already or not. Hopefully it works this time! Im half tempted to send it to your AOL account too; as ive got one as well, so it should work.

If anyone else wants Who's Next Deluxe Edition Disc 2, you've got 6 days or so to decide.. plenty of time! ONE fresh, piping hot link sitting right here ladies and germs. The Who fans and classic rock fans in general need this!

HERE YE HERE YE..! Ok, im done.

[JohnXDoe]

Weird. I see it failed again. Just sent it to aim. Hopefully success this time....

[JohnXDoe]

Thanks for taking care of all of this JXD. I sent the link to your AIM account Freud.. dunno if you got it already or not. Hopefully it works this time! Im half tempted to send it to your AOL account too; as ive got one as well, so it should work.

If anyone else wants Who's Next Deluxe Edition Disc 2, you've got 6 days or so to decide.. plenty of time! ONE fresh, piping hot link sitting right here ladies and germs. The Who fans and classic rock fans in general need this!

HERE YE HERE YE..! Ok, im done.
Yeah, and punk rock fans and grunge fans and country fans, too. Even yodelling fans. :)


/doesn't care much for a lot of "classic rock".

/would never consider The Who that....

[Tusk]

Yeah, and punk rock fans and grunge fans and country fans, too. Even yodelling fans. :)


/doesn't care much for a lot of "classic rock".

/would never consider The Who that....

Good point, its The Who! Put the smile on an Emotional fan's face, and convert any hardcore metal guy.. YOURS TODAY! And its free! :p

Plus! come on.. what yodeller could possibly live up to Daltrey's voice?? His work on My Generation for Who's Next is inspiring.

Ok, my street hawker impression is done.. The Who are more one of those revolutionary bands that cross and thus nullify boundries of genre.. like The Beatles. Anyone who calls the Beatles pop rock needs to be popped with a rock themselves (ok.. corny), not many bands can change a generation of teenagers with a single line of lyric (thread title).

Ill always be a Zeppelin fan at heart, and I believe they fit into that category as well.. but ANYone can agree that the Who filled gaps that musicians and fans never realized existed until they were paved over by insane live acts, the concept of a 'rock drummer,' and an over the top frontman.

EDIT: Yea.. so basically, I agree.. im gonna learn to cut down on bombastic behavior one of these days, heh.

[Ephemeral]

I can try sending it to you Pink Freud. I received your blues mailing list thing, so we will see what happens with this.

[JohnXDoe]

I can try sending it to you Pink Freud. I received your blues mailing list thing, so we will see what happens with this.
Hopefully something will work for him. The one I sent to his aim address didn't cause a failed delivery in my inbox, so we'll see.

[JohnXDoe]

:wave:

[JohnXDoe]

Good point, its The Who! Put the smile on an Emotional fan's face, and convert any hardcore metal guy.. YOURS TODAY! And its free! :p

Plus! come on.. what yodeller could possibly live up to Daltrey's voice?? His work on My Generation for Who's Next is inspiring.

Ok, my street hawker impression is done.. The Who are more one of those revolutionary bands that cross and thus nullify boundries of genre.. like The Beatles. Anyone who calls the Beatles pop rock needs to be popped with a rock themselves (ok.. corny), not many bands can change a generation of teenagers with a single line of lyric (thread title).

Ill always be a Zeppelin fan at heart, and I believe they fit into that category as well.. but ANYone can agree that the Who filled gaps that musicians and fans never realized existed until they were paved over by insane live acts, the concept of a 'rock drummer,' and an over the top frontman.

EDIT: Yea.. so basically, I agree.. im gonna learn to cut down on bombastic behavior one of these days, heh.
Yeah, I feel the same way. The old stuff still stands up. The Who have always been ahead of there time. I'm convinced to some ears they still are. For instance when the Who did the "Farewell" tour in '82 they brought The Clash with them. Could a band like The Stones or Zep bring a band like The Clash on tour with them at that time? No way. Wouldn't even think to. You can imagine it now, but not then. Pete said it was like passing the torch. He knew what was up. He knew The Who's time was up for the time being and he had always liked punk. He considered what the Sex Pistols were doing equal to what The Who had done at there start. Only for a new generation. And in many ways he was right.

The remarkable thing is the door swung both ways. While the punks respected no one and held disdain for most everything that came before, they didn't mind The Who. Who Are You was written after an incident where two Pistols told a drunken Pete they "loved The Who" and would be saddened if they broke up. Kurt Cobain was a Who fan, I believe. And he was disappointed when Pete bad mouthed his band about one thing or another. I think it was the instrument smashing. And a couple of other things. Nirvana is still the only other band I've seen that could pull that off, btw. Just my opinion.

But yeah, even in '2000 at The Royal Albert Hall gigs. Who showed up to jam with The Who? Classic rockers? Nope. It was Paul Weller from The Jam, Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam, Noel Galleger from Oasis, and some dude from the Stereophonics. Galleger plays great guitar on Won't Get Fooled Again. Oh, and Bryan Adams was there. That gave me a big WTF? Unless he is popular in England, or somethin'? :confused:

But yeah, The Who stand apart somehow. Don't know what that means, but it sounds great.....

[PinkFreud]

I got the links guys. Thanks a lot!

[Tusk]

Mmmm... great point there, and I learned something. Punk bands hated the "dinosaurs of rock," but if one of the original top punk bands actually toured with The Who, then it makes everything said even more valid. That The Who truly transcended all notions of genre.. im amazed at that.. ill bet The Clash learned a few things from the live performances of The Who as well. ;) That merely translated into Who influence on the punk movement, which can be only a good thing.

The Who are one of few true legends of music.. and the most impressive thing is.. they're legends amongst musicians, who count for more than listeners, because musicians make and shape their own music based on the music of bands they admire.

[JohnXDoe]

^Yeah, and when I said earlier I didn't like a lot of classic rock, that is true, but it's the term I have an aversion to more then anything. I love rock n roll. Love The Stones, Beatles, Dylan. The Who, of course. Hendrix was wild. Joplin can bring tears to my eyes. Zep were good, and I give them a listen from time to time. In Though The Outdoor, mostly. I love Bruce Springsteen. Hell, I like Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles!

But to me The Who transcend that whole bunch. I think in 100 years when all is said and done and many things are forgotten, kids like I used to be (I'm 25) will still be able to put on Live At Leeds and have someone go "WTF IS THAT AWFUL NOISE!!" And when the person says "oh, that's an old band called The Who" the other will say "The what? THEY SUCK!"

And somewhere in the great beyond Pete and the boys will be laughing there arses off..... :)

[Lunch]

The My Generation lyrics (more specifically our thread title now) do more than define a generation of teenagers - they've defined every generation of teenagers since. The song is perfect in a lot of ways, but especially in summing up everything about adolesence. The rebellious attitude, defiance, teenage angst, its all there in My Generation. Actually now that I think about it, it would be hard to find a song that embodies a concept 40 years later just as powerfully as it did when it was first released. To hear a song like that in 1965 must have just been stunning. That's one of those things that changes rock history.

And The Who always earned their respect from other musicians, somehow. Obviously no one looked up to Pete as a guitar virtuoso, but the punks had to respect the attitude of the group. Their performance is just so mind-blowing and everything they did in the mid-60's (windmill, instrument smashing, feedback, and so on) was so ahead of the time. Punk bands adopted that attitude, but to me smashing a guitar never had the same meaning when the Clash or whoever did it.

Edit: I just got the Live and the Young Vic material and just started listening. Pure and Easy was great, and this Young Man Blues is blistering. The drum sound is very clear which I like because I usually listen to Moon anyway.

[[+*°|*KiLLiNg~Li£$*°|°*+]]

THE WHO THE WHO THE WHO!!!!!!! YEAH
Behind blue eyes is one of their most beautiful songs... but their song are all EXCELLENT!!!!!!

[Lunch]

I think this calls for a....

Long Live Rock!

[Ephemeral]

\m/

[JohnXDoe]

This looks interesting. For those who like to read outside these little boxes. Took the guy a few years to write and apparently Pete approves, somewhat. The webmaster of Pete's website even put a news item up about it saying it is quite good. It's super cheap if you download it and read it off your computer:

http://www.lulu.com/content/177888


EDIT: Oh, and it is self published, so chances are you won't find it many other places except certain online outlets and the authors website.

So, how 'bout that Young Vic show, guys? Pretty damn awesome, amirite?

[Lunch]

Yea, like you said earlier they obviously had some work to put into those songs, but you can never deny the energy. The playing on the whole was good and the Who live is fantastic anyway.

[robo2448]

Can someone forward me the link?

Robo2448 (at) yahoo.com

[Lunch]

I should've just sent it to you, so check in a couple minutes and let me know if you didn't get it.

[robo2448]

Thanks I got it. I've been waiting so long to hear this.

/party

[robo2448]

This is awesome! Thanks so much for this. Of course, it can't touch Live At Leeds (nothing ever will IMO), but I love hearing The Who perform songs from Who's Next live. The performances are great and it's cool to hear later classics live. Good stuff.

np- Young Man Blues

[Lunch]

The version of Young Man Blues is awesome from that Young Vic set. And it's definitely cool to hear most of the newer stuff live. We also got the rare "Time is Passing", so that was cool to try to see more of the whole Lifehouse project.

[robo2448]

The version of Young Man Blues is awesome from that Young Vic set. And it's definitely cool to hear most of the newer stuff live. We also got the rare "Time is Passing", so that was cool to try to see more of the whole Lifehouse project.

Moon and Entwistle are so amazing on Young Man Blues. Actually, the whole band is amazing. Daltrey's singing is so powerful and Pete has a pretty good solo in there, but Moon and Entwistle steal the spotlight. But Keith and John just propel that song forward. Such a loud and powerful rhythm section. I never thought I'd hear anything more energetic than Young Man Blues off of LaL, but this competes with it.

[Lunch]

One thing I don't think I'll ever get tired of is the pure energy and force created by Entwistle in Moon in the middle of some of their songs. Young Man Blues is an excellent example, along with Heaven and Hell especially.

[robo2448]

Yeah nobody will ever be able to match The Who in terms of live volume and power. I don't know how they did it. Their performances never let up for a solid 2 and a half hours. I remember in the LaL linear notes Pete said something about them needing a break from touring because their shows required them to be fit and athletic and they had all been drinking too much to keep it up. But I seriously can't imagine giving performances that powerful and energetic every single night.

[Lunch]

I get tired trying to keep up with Moon through one or two songs off Live at Leeds, so I definitely get what you're talking about. I don't understand where the energy came from.

[JohnXDoe]

The Young Vic performance is great. Just typical Who, amirite? We are spoiled by such a high standard of rockiness. :chug:

Yes, they are still working out Who's Next. Roger messes up Bargain, and Won't Get Fooled Again is weird. It's really great they figured to shut up at the synth break toward the end of WGFA.

Pure And Easy comes through, though. As does Getting In Tune and Love Ain't For Keeping. And of course the rest is superb. I feel this album also captures Monn at the height of his power. Some say he just wailed. Well, not true. Listen to this album, he is on the beat. He's the time keeper and the band leader. This was the best rock drummer of his or any other day. He didn't play drums, he played an instrument as part of a song. Not showing off like a lot of others. He was on drums what Entwhistle was on bass. And they were perfect for one another. They were a special band, no doubt about it.

/cranks up Pure and Easy.


EDIT: Thread turns 1000. :smoke: :chug:

[robo2448]

The performance of Water off that is like sex. Daltrey's singing is so powerful and Townsend has some really good guitarwork in there. And Moon and Entwistle are great as always.

I'm listening to the cd for the second time today now.

np- My Generation

[Lunch]

I actually really like Water. I'm starting to dig the songs from this era more, like that, I Don't Know Myself, Time Is Passing, Pure and Easy, along with the obvious greats like Bargain and Naked Eye.