The Who

[JohnXDoe]

ok i haven't heard many bootlegs but that is the best live version of 5:15 i have ever heard. it also reveals what a huge loss Entwistle was. he and Townshend just smoke on it. and Jones keeps pace. i don't even know if Pete could summon the energy to play like that night after night these days. his lead at the bridge is great!. Pete is a good player and one of the best in rock, period.




EDIT TO LUNCH:: foiled again :upset:

[wanderer]

nope, it says what a loss Entwistles bass sound was after late 80s. It was never great again after that.. same with Pete

[Seafroggys]

I am officially in love with The Real Me. I have never known of its absolute awesomeness, but **** its awesome.

[User Name]

I think The Who By Numbers has my favorite bass playing of any Who album and some really good song writing, and I'll never get why no one listens to it. Sure, it has Squeeze Box on it, but only once.

[Seafroggys]

I think The Who By Numbers has my favorite bass playing of any Who album and some really good song writing, and I'll never get why no one listens to it. Sure, it has Squeeze Box on it, but only once.

you could say that about any Who album that isn't Tommy/Leeds/Next/Quad.

[MattSharpIsCool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZOrWK6d4g

Just felt like posting that. Maybe my favorite "live" performance ever.

[Seafroggys]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZOrWK6d4g

Just felt like posting that. Maybe my favorite "live" performance ever.

that's dubbed.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I know, that's why I had "live" in quotations.

It's still a cool performance though.

[wanderer]

All Essen vids so far...

Another Tricky Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmbHNtUOI_A

You Better You Bet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2fjsL1UtQ

Quiet One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PZ_4HHZxI

Drowned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0lFwi5v2GY

Summertime Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCHJjs8NxmA

Who Are You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMAUdG6KmM

515
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbYOMXhHtmU

You Better You Bet (better quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKDDl5yOwhQ

-----

Silent video with dubbed sound st. paul civic center 4/30/1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_CzT45jyM

Solo acoustic Drowned from 1979 Secret Policeman's Ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t9slqL_eSw

[JohnXDoe]

I think The Who By Numbers has my favorite bass playing of any Who album and some really good song writing, and I'll never get why no one listens to it. Sure, it has Squeeze Box on it, but only once.
i don't think thats quite true. among fans i think its very respected and widely listened to. and i like Squeeze Box. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZOrWK6d4g

Just felt like posting that. Maybe my favorite "live" performance ever.
ah that really is great. i love when pete takes tommy's little guitar at the end and bangs it to bits. it seems for a moment the audience is silent as if to collectively think "omg they are seriously breaking things."
All Essen vids so far...
thanks dude. i downloaded all those Essen ones. made a nice little bootleg tape. man the guys were good at that show :)

[Seafroggys]

man just played (drums, not listen) through The Real Me, I wanna get my band to play it.

I'm exhausted :thumb:

[JohnXDoe]

Well i feel like pontificating on Thr Who but don't know what to say. Trying to get back into the old stuff and what the band was before all this new stuff. I mean I like the new stuff. But its not just about music. Its just like they put this unexpected chapter at the end. I thought I knew how I would remember The Who. Or at least perceive them. But now that has changed...

I wonder if this makes any sense to anyone but me....

[Seafroggys]

Here we go again....

Naw, just messing with you.

The Who should end total rock 'n roll style. I mean, both keith and John died that way, while The Who were touring and kicking and stuff.

[robo2448]

I think The Who By Numbers has my favorite bass playing of any Who album and some really good song writing, and I'll never get why no one listens to it. Sure, it has Squeeze Box on it, but only once.

Actually, the remastered version has Squeeze Box twice. There's a live version tossed in at the end. But I like Squeeze Box, especially the live version, so it's all good. I agree, it's a fantastic album. It was what changed me from a casual Tommy and Who's Next fan to a nut. And then Live at Leeds just made me think "wow these guys are the best ever." And that was that. How Many Friends is probably my favorite on Who By Numbers. Fantastic singing, good lyrics, great guitarwork, and Entwistle is all over that fretboard.

[User Name]

I have the remastered one. It was more of a joke, really. The live version isn't that bad, but then again when has The Who ever been bad live?

123 on your points, too. How Many Friends is great.

[JohnXDoe]

Here we go again....Naw, just messing with you.

The Who should end total rock 'n roll style. I mean, both keith and John died that way, while The Who were touring and kicking and stuff.
nah pete and rog can't go out like that. they were never like that. even John was "the quiet one". i was sort of surprised he went out like that. i mean i know he wasn't a saint and enjoyed "the good life", but he was just dignified somehow. great musician, expensive wine, planes, women. never on his back in the hospital or at rehab. and then he just goes and dies of s coke induced heart attack. he had a bad heart, anyway. i heard he took meds for it sometimes. he knew coke use could kill him. and he just tosses it all away. sort of unexpected. i really didn't know he had a "problem".

keith was different. but still never a "junkie". he did dumb shi.t like drive cars into pools and photograph his trashed hotel rooms. or make lite of it. he just did everything different. he didn't do it to rebel or be cool like all these posers. he did it because it was funny to him. and he meant to do it, he did everything with humor. the drunk klown. he did pills and shi.t. and drinking was his major thing. also to be fair he died clean. drank water that night when he was out.

and pete? classic "artist" alcoholic. workaholic alcoholic. got into drugs late in the game for a couple years and got out early in a rehab in Malibu, California. Spiritually rebirthing on his All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes album. thats 100% pete. who else with that bullshi.t? he can't go out like that.

rog? um, yeah.....

i'm afraid we are stuck with these old farts :(

[wanderer]

Update....

Sister Disco from Essen 1981

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Y8cP6AnKg

All Essen vids so far...

Another Tricky Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmbHNtUOI_A

You Better You Bet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2fjsL1UtQ

Quiet One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PZ_4HHZxI

Drowned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0lFwi5v2GY

Summertime Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCHJjs8NxmA

Who Are You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMAUdG6KmM

515
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbYOMXhHtmU

You Better You Bet (better quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKDDl5yOwhQ

-----

Silent video with dubbed sound st. paul civic center 4/30/1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_CzT45jyM

Solo acoustic Drowned from 1979 Secret Policeman's Ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t9slqL_eSw

[Lunch]

Moon overdosed on pills that were supposed to help him with his alcoholism. Really sad.

[Seafroggys]

Moon overdosed on pills that were supposed to help him with his alcoholism. Really sad.

yes, I know that. It was really sad.

For The Who's very last concert, there needs to be a massive explosion or something.

[i don't know lol]

great who thread. i'll be around....

[Dragon_Prince]

I am going to see The Who again, at Roskilde! :P

[i don't know lol]

I saw them when they came to Boston. Such a great band and what a great show. Pete is incredible!

[User Name]

I saw them December 2 in Boston. Is that the one you went to?

[i don't know lol]

nah i went to the sept 16 show. it was really good.

here is some stuff i found on youtube.

omg Trick Of The Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esrl1WZ8o2Q&mode=related&search=

Summertime Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pHWVfxqhzw&mode=related&search=

they are from dress rehearsals for the '89 tour. interesting because no crowd is involved. the Trick Of The Light clip is awesome and a rarity, indeed. both clips feature John prominently, of course.

also for those who don't know all these clips are easily downloaded with a Firefox extension by the name of DownloadHelper. i have quite the collection of Who clips from youtube now :)

[Inkstar]

Hey, what's a good album to start out with?

[i don't know lol]

Hard to say. The Who were very different live then on album and vice versa, of course. To start I would go with Who's Next or Quadrophenia. Or a live album such as Live At Leeds or Live At The Isle Of Wright. Others might suggest Tommy to you. I also like the soundtrack to The Kids Are Alright. Its rough but gives a nice overview.

Personally I recommend Quadrophenia.

[Seafroggys]

My first two albums were Who Are You and Who's Next, mainly because my dad had them on vinyl and I was a huge fan of the two 'hits' off of those albums (Behind Blue Eyes and Who Are You). However, I didn't become that huge of a fan until I was introduced to live Who. Tommy and Quadrophenia really opened up a ton of doors.

[wanderer]

Good place to start is everything Townshend, be it Who (all the records expect EW (exluding MPT & GSOMR)/demos/solo/live boots (solo/Who)... :)...
all good to me :)

[Jude]

I got into them via their greatest hits album. I still only have a few albums and haven't listened to them enough :(

I love "I Can't Explain." I rock out to that song all the time.

[i don't know lol]

Good place to start is everything Townshend, be it Who (all the records expect EW (exluding MPT & GSOMR)/demos/solo/live boots (solo/Who)... :)...
all good to me :)
this is also a good idea. dive into the history of the band. thats what i did when i first got into them. not just because of some longevity but also because of how much ground they covered the first time around. they changed a lot over the years, but still remained "The Who". they have a long and colorful history and all kinds of music around via Townshend, in an out of the band.

[JohnnySixGuns]

Zak Starkey is the wrong drummer for The Who. at least this tour he has been. he has changed some since starting with them. tbh i prefer Simon Phillips to him, whom i always thought was a good fit. although i think he left the band out of choice i wish he would have stayed.

[Seafroggys]

Zak Starkey is the wrong drummer for The Who. at least this tour he has been. he has changed some since starting with them. tbh i prefer Simon Phillips to him, whom i always thought was a good fit. although i think he left the band out of choice i wish he would have stayed.

Zak Starkey is absolutly awesome, I have no clue what you are talking about.

Simon Philips is pretty good though, I'd be happy with him as well.

Thank god Kenney Jones agreed not to sign on after 1989.

[JohnnySixGuns]

well kenny didn't play with them in '89, either. it was Phillips.

Starkey of course is a good drummer. but i was listening to the Quad performance and also Royal Albert Hall and he was more dynamic. these days he's more a time keeper then anything else, never pushing the envelope too much. perhaps the loss of john has something to do with it?

[Seafroggys]

well kenny didn't play with them in '89, either. it was Phillips.

That's what I meant. 89 was the only time Philips played with them if I recall.

I'm not too familiar with the Quad or Albert Hall performances, but when I saw them in the fall I felt he was fitting in enough (fitting in with the Who = over the top)

[Dragon_Prince]

Very strange, the gig I'm going to see them (again) will probably their second last ...

[JohnXDoe]

well i guess thats a bit of good news and bad news. i mean i thought this final go 'round was straining the boys but i don't really want them to go away for good :(

[Dragon_Prince]

Mhm yes, but I would be more hapy if I just saw their last, that would be more special :P

[JohnXDoe]

:wave:

[Eliminator]

the who grararar

[RNR]

They have to do something huge for their last show. Make it a special one that's not part of the current tour and play for 4 hours.

[JohnXDoe]

^that would be great.

I found this on youtube. its the kids are alright performance of WGFA but it has been recut. apparently this footage is available, and this guy put a new version together. makes you wonder why jeff stein didn't do something closer to this with the film version. the guy even gave it a more "live" sound. the only thing wrong is sometimes Moon isn't synced right. imo its a must see for any Who fan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUbGLVvfB7Y&mode=related&search=

[Seafroggys]

wow that was ****ing awesome man, thanks for sharing that!

Though I must say they ruined the greatest moment (the Pete slide and Roger scream) the original long slow mo shot was by far better then what they did here.

Much more of John though, which was great, and the Pit Cams were awesome.

[leweh]

the most powerful move in the rockers arsenal

[wanderer]

Posted before but in case someone missed it.

"Baby Don't You Do It", Forest Hills Tennis Stadium, july 31 1971....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pb7jbZvSlno

[Thunder Fingers]

What the...

Ok, is it Roger on Helium singing "Armenia city in the sky"?!

[Thunder Fingers]

They have to do something huge for their last show. Make it a special one that's not part of the current tour and play for 4 hours.

Like, Tommy followed by Quadrophenia and then a best of set?

[JohnXDoe]

oh look a Who thread who put this here? :confused:

for their last show they should dig up John and Kieth and do it like it used to be did back in '70. that would be aces. :)

seriously though i doubt if anything special will occur. probably bow out garcefully, the Tea & Theater way. fitting i suppose...

[User Name]

Tea & Theater? You can't be serious.

I didn't even like that as the end of Endless Wire, let alone the band's entire career. I'd rather hear Cobwebs and Strange as the last song. I love that song.
Seriously though, my personal choice would probably be something from Quadrophenia.
Ending it with something new would be cool too though. I guess Tea & Theater would be the most fitting from Endless Wire, plus it wraps the whole thing up nicely.

Too Much of Anything or some other obscure thing would be cool and weird but highly doubtful.

[JohnXDoe]

Long Live Rock, perhaps? i know the guys are up there in years but why they ignore some of the more simpler Who fare like that is beyond me. they have a band that can play just about anything. i suppose they are just comfy doing what they do...

[Lunch]

I'd actually probably rather they go out on a My Generation or Won't Get Fooled Again number. Maybe smash the instruments one final time.

[Eliminator]

They should go on out on Boris the Spider.

****ing epic

[User Name]

Long Live Rock is a good choice. I don't really like that one, but it fits!

I know what you mean, a lot of the simple stuff is just as good as the over the top-type stuff.

[PinkFreud]

Love Reign O'er Me, perhaps?

[Seafroggys]

My list for the finale:

Love Reign O'er Me
See Me Feel Me/Listening to You (yeah its my favorite song I'm biased)
Join Together
Long Live Rock
Won't Get Fooled Again

I hate the drum machine on Tea & Theatre (album version) wtf was Pete thinking?

[PinkFreud]

I really hate Long Live Rock.

I'd rather see WGFA be used as the end of the main set and LRoM as the end of the finale. The song just seems so much more final to me.

[Seafroggys]

Yeah Long Live Rock isn't that great of a song, but lyrically it fits.

Yeah, LroM is probably the best 'closer' because it has this sense of sadness to it. Listening to You is too optimistic. Its great to close a regular set, but then there'll be more Who later. At the very end, though, it wouldn't fit.

[JohnXDoe]

I think Long Live Rock is a great song in a conventional R&R way. Basic Chuck Berry riff, and the lyrics are 100% Who. Plus its had a sense of nostalgia tied to it from the beginning. One of my fave Who songs.

[wanderer]

For "end show" they should play nothing but new stuff and stuff that hasn't been never played... none of that **** overplayed Tommy/Quad/greatest hit vomit....

then Townshend needs to do an actaully good album, unlike vomit joke EW, with full of songs as good as Marty Robbins. Record where quality of songs are as good as in Psychoderelict.

[Seafroggys]

EW wasn't bad at all, just too much acoustic for my taste, and that damn drum machine in some of the songs. Fragments was also pretty boring, it could have been really good. But damn Black Widow's Eyes and Man in a Purple Dress and Mirror Door ****ing kick ***.

[JohnXDoe]

We Got A Hit, Two Thousand Years, and the whole of Endless Wire is good, too. Among some others. If Townshend had gotten a producer in or reigned himself some in it could have been much more. Mike Post Theme is aces, imo, and like i said, its just got too much fat and is scattered. Pete also left Rogers vocals alone, no touch ups or overdubs. Perhaps a mistake in hindsight, but i think Pete wanted them to sound as they are now, warts and all. and so they do.

[wanderer]

Oakland 1976 concert footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXIiayheX_c

"I'm a Boy', 1968 French TV show

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RG7t8RsEMTU

"Fillmore" 1967

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UQT5pN3g1kQ

[wanderer]

magical live acoustic version of 'The Ferryman'....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9xpQQbFaj-k

[Dragon_Prince]

I'm seeing them for the 2nd time at Roskilde :)

[JohnXDoe]

should be a good gig, everybody nice and rested. if they come down south cali way again i'll give the 'ol chaps another go around, too.

thanks for the link, wanderer....

[wanderer]

love this tune
Pete Townshend - Teresa (Athena) Demo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ItpasoGRFoc

[Seafroggys]

Live at Leeds is the greatest Who album ever. I'm such a latecomer to this wonderful orgasm!

This version of I Can't Explain is so far better than anything else.

[Dragon_Prince]

Does anyone know the setlist that goes around this set of the tour.

[JohnXDoe]

i don't know it but i know they have added some quad tunes after dropping them because of rogers voice. nothing radical, just the typical: 5:15, Drowned, The Real Me, etc. you ought to hear two or three quad tunes. i read on their site that they are making a few changes. i'll keep the thread updated. also i saw a clip of recent performance by the band and they sound great. the warm up gigs were just that with moments, the first couple legs of the north american tour were a bit shaky with all the new stuff, but all the players sound as if they have hit their stride now. ought to be great shows.

poor rog, 'tho :(


oh, and 4 the love of god, wtf? :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY

i like it, 'tho

[FriendofTheDevil70]

Love the Who, really great band. Amazing live show as well. Favorite albums are Who's Next, Quad., and The Who By Numbers. Some people may hate me for this but I feel that Tommy is painfully overrated. Just saw this thread, so wanted to give my quick view on the band.

[JohnXDoe]

thanks for posting. this is one of the best who threads on the internets imo. not as active as it once was on account of something weird, i think. seems when they weren't as active or just touring without new stuff we had a lot to say. but with the new band and tour and john's death and everything they are still writing their history so their old history is somehow changed. so what to say now?

they r definitely a different band. it really is rog and pete now. and rog really struggles. i still have mixed feelings about what they are now and don't quite understand it. perhaps it will come to me with age? prolly will....


anyway i too think tommy is somewhat overrated. not their best but many will disagree. it never clicked for me, even live. i like many of its moments on their own. but as concept or rock opera or whatever, its somewhat lost on me.

[FriendofTheDevil70]

thanks for posting. this is one of the best who threads on the internets imo. not as active as it once was on account of something weird, i think. seems when they weren't as active or just touring without new stuff we had a lot to say. but with the new band and tour and john's death and everything they are still writing their history so their old history is somehow changed. so what to say now?

they r definitely a different band. it really is rog and pete now. and rog really struggles. i still have mixed feelings about what they are now and don't quite understand it. perhaps it will come to me with age? prolly will....


anyway i too think tommy is somewhat overrated. not their best but many will disagree. it never clicked for me, even live. i like many of its moments on their own. but as concept or rock opera or whatever, its somewhat lost on me.


Thanks for the welcome. I to, have mixed feelings about Roger and Pete still touring, but its all good. I still like watching their live performances nowadays. And yeah, this thread used to be a lot more active. I used to browse this site, long before I ever joined and remember reading some cool things in this thread. So yeah, looking forward to discussing the Who with everyone here:)

[wanderer]

Personally I think Who should have pack it in and Townshend do total solo record/tour. Would have been way better shows. Perhaps that will happen. You might even get occasionally some variety/interesting surprising (which will not happen with Who) songs like 'I Can't Reach You' which Pete played second time this week during "In The Attic" Show. You can find download link in Who newsgroup.

Pete being so poppy and catchy its hurts, brilliant...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d8EpUDPCNYw

[Seafroggys]

I didn't inform any in this thread, but last Sunday I finally bought LIve at Leeds (the 2 disc version) and I have declared it the second best album of all time (now better than Tommy). Can't Explain, Heaven and Hell, My Generation, et. al. are so ****ing amazing. And of course See me Feel Me is always the greatest.

If the Who came around again to Oregon, I'll go again. They may be better this time around, as JxD is saying.

Also, I'm not too sure anybody is aware of this, but there's this cool website called http://www.lifehouse-method.com/index.html that creates a song based on information you input it (based on Pete's original concept). A clip of your voice, a picture, a sound file, and a rhythm are the items you need and it spits out a 4-6 minute Baba-isque track. You are allowed to do 3. I've done two and they're quite interesting, I'll post the links.

My Theme #1
lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5295715&q=lo
hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5295715&q=hi
My Theme #2
lo-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5406834&q=lo
hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5406834&q=hi

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=320490

[JohnXDoe]

just want to remind those who are going to a show that a ticket purchase automatically gains you basic membership to thewhotour.com. its a great site and they have some good stuff on the media player there. right now i'm watching a bootleg of a gig from 2000 when they played florida. and it is a GREAT gig.

you have to sign up with a credit or debit card and if you don't cancel before your first year is up they will automatically bill your card for the next. but once signed up you can cancel that option immediately. i signed up last september and just canceled mine today so i won't be billed come this september. no problem whatsoever.

they're playing gettin' in tune :smoke:

john was fantastic....

and thanks for that, 'froggys. ima check it out


EDIT: ooh, now naked eye :chug:

[Seafroggys]

I really wish I liked them earlier, may have been able to catch them in 2000.

Then again, if I could time travel, might as well go back to 1970.

[wanderer]

thewhotour.com is a complete scam...

Also you can find from Who newsgroup a video download of Pete playing 'I Can't Reach' during from In The attic show this week....

[JohnXDoe]

wanderer stfu, plz. how is it a scam? i have never been scammed there.

thanks for the youtube links, btw. :)

[Lunch]

the who sux

ROAR

[Dragon_Prince]

I got Endles Wire a few days ago. Never heard it before, good now I have it, 'cause I'm seeing them again. :)

[Seafroggys]

the who sux

ROAR

traitor.....

[JohnXDoe]

the who sux

ROAR
:eek:

:upset:

[Lunch]

Yea, I was being serious

[wanderer]

blaaablaablaa....

silent 1974 MSG video clip, Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQFmOi6D_U#

[wanderer]

Pete playing

'I Can't Reach You'
http://www.dailymotion.com/IvorTheEngineDriver/video/x25kjx_pete-townshend-i-cant-reach-you-200

Real Me
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ci2e_pete-townshend-the-real-me-drowned

[Ephemeral]

the who sure are gay man i hate that band they suck

[magicfingers]

Pete playing

'I Can't Reach You'
http://www.dailymotion.com/IvorTheEngineDriver/video/x25kjx_pete-townshend-i-cant-reach-you-200

Real Me
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ci2e_pete-townshend-the-real-me-drowned

god pete is the man...

[wanderer]

Townshend 'It's In You' demo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LU3VEBf-iZA

'Sister Disco' 1982 Syracuse

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5QACpLZUuzs

[JohnXDoe]

o cool sister disco :D

[Seafroggys]

This is kick ***

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDg5Mz5BlM

[JohnXDoe]

wow that is awesome it gets better and better as the song progresses. i guess this is what the people use who put together the alt edits of this that are floating around. i think i'll have it soon as i'm getting the kids are alright deluxe edition.

[Seafroggys]

man I'd love to get a high res copy of that.

[wanderer]

Drowned, 1982 San Diego
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FRCPlR1H3kA

5:15, 1982 San Diego
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gzoIUzkjP8Y

[JohnXDoe]

cool thanx dude

[wanderer]

Cry If You Want, 1982 Shea Stadium

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pkeybf4BE1k

[wanderer]

The Who - 1981 Essen Soundcheck 'Who are you' video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1bBabXyE3Uw

[Lunch]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q03VI1o3728

3-28-81, Pete joins Jerry and the boys for a nice Not Fade Away>Wharf Rat>Around and Around to close the show (the video is only of NFA but I have the Dead show in its entirety)

[wanderer]

The Real Me from 1980 Lexington

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pgJoQ9bUQCQ

[JohnXDoe]

great stuff guys, thanks.

pete and rog are still rocking on. you know this thread isn't very active anymore but i'm gonna do some posting in it and see if i can't bring it up a little.

the return of The Who was sort of this threads climax, i think? and the return was somewhat bittersweet for me. i liked reading the old stories, listening to the old music, and knowing where The Who ended. and understanding that end. the old legend. now we have this whole pete & roger thing to consider. well i've considered it long enough!

i'm taking my Who back :(

[User Name]

I like Endless Wire.

[Seafroggys]

Well I finally paid my dues and finally bought "The Kids are Alright." I rented it from the library twice about two years ago, but I'm sick and tired of watching WGFA and See Me Feel Me on crappy youtube. It was cheap and an impulse buy, about $8.

[wanderer]

1980 My Generation, Audio only

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eKgfvLkxAk4

[Seafroggys]

On my way down to the Tull concert on Tuesday, I stopped by a place where I had a $20 gift card. I bought a Tull album (Stand Up) and got the Who Sell Out, which I'm finally listening to. Not familiar with any of these songs, but I'm listening to Armenia City in the Sky and its fantastic. Didn't know they were this good that early on.

EDIT: wtf is up with Rael? Its like the same exact thing as Sparks, but with words!

[User Name]

Sell Out is alright. Jaguar is seriously the greatest song they've ever done. The bass tone on Hall of The Mountain King is awesome. Lowest point has to be Silas Stingy. I like John's songs, but this really disappointed me.

Yeah, Rael kinda pissed me off. It is interesting to see how some of the ideas evolved into Tommy though.

I actually like A Quick One way better than Sell Out.

[Seafroggys]

General consensus says that A Quick One is their worst album overall, which is why I got this one instead. I know Lunch really likes Sell Out.

[JohnXDoe]

i like A Quick One. i think its tight, has some nice pop things, rock things. The Who were pretty experimental at this time. perhaps not so much as The Beatles (who were really out there and great, too) but they were more so than many. Townshend was quirky as hell sometimes, all that art school stuff running through his veins, as well as the r&b he loved so much and his own blossoming songwriting sensibilities.

i don't care for Sell Out as much as some. certainly not as much as Lunch. its a good "what is yet to come" album. full of good ideas, some not so good. i think its interesting and wildly uneven and something of a breakthrough album for The Who, but its not among my favorites.

[User Name]

Worse than the two post-Moon albums from the '80's? No wai.

[JohnXDoe]

i like Face Dances. nothing is worse than Its Hard.



EDIT: very very very very hard.....so HARRRD!

meh

[Seafroggys]

Yeah the bonus tracks on this album are real meh. Its as if they didn't care at all, like they jokingly go through the vocal takes.

[wanderer]

All this is silly talk since Sell Out is best thing Townshend has ever done. Absolutely nothing uneven about. All of his other record combined don't come even close to that record. Face Dances is also one the best records Pete ever did, total POP music/lyrical goodness.

[wanderer]

General consensus says that A Quick One is their worst album overall, which is why I got this one instead. I know Lunch really likes Sell Out.

This is music, there's no general consensus...

[i am the robots]

Why do you fags post in gay threads like this, but not my thread?

[JohnXDoe]

hey robots gtfo out of my WHO THREAD! :mad:



All this is silly talk since Sell Out is best thing Townshend has ever done. Absolutely nothing uneven about. All of his other record combined don't come even close to that record. Face Dances is also one the best records Pete ever did, total POP music/lyrical goodness.
grand overstatement froim wanderer, just like the good 'ol days....

[wanderer]

Townshend, "Lone Ranger Street Music Reduction"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n2nTlvtsi5k

[wanderer]

Townshend, "What Is Love"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s0RILBFGI_U

[JohnXDoe]

hey guys this looks cool i found it on a sputnik ad. i am def getting this. check out the previews and reviews:

http://www.thewhomovie.com/

i clicked the ad and made jeremy some sweet cash :cool:

[Lunch]

Sell Out and A Quick One are two of their better records, and perhaps the two most interesting. Sell Out contends at times for my favorite Who record, I think it's brilliant. Armenia is a great opener, Relax is criminally underrated, Mary Anne, Tattoo, I Can See for Miles, etc. The bonus tracks are a great addition unlike many remastered CDs (as someone already said, Jaguar, Hall of the Mountain King, Glittering Girl, and Girl's Eyes are outstanding). Rael, two years before Tommy, is an outstanding step forward for the group and certainly a noteworthy effort on Pete's behalf.

Where these two stack up against their 80's albums is debatable, but each is 10 times more interesting than their debut

[wanderer]

English Boy, Later wit Jools

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0G5BQw4rw

Outlive the Dinosaur - New York 1993

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1j5UzSFofBc

[Riva]

Damn, but listening to Who's Next whilst studying is a bad idea. I just end up singing along to the songs and browsing MX instead. :p

[NemesisDivina]

The Who has/had some of the most talented people at their instruments ever. Seeing Pete's windmill live is phenomenal...

/wearing The Who tour shirt

[JohnXDoe]

Damn, but listening to Who's Next whilst studying is a bad idea. I just end up singing along to the songs and browsing MX instead. :p

The Who has/had some of the most talented people at their instruments ever. Seeing Pete's windmill live is phenomenal...

/wearing The Who tour shirt
yes The Who were mighty, indeed....

thanks to Riva and the mod team at R&M for letting this thread survive, although somewhat inactive. i plan on posting more mini essays and up to date info, but with the last tour and stuff, it really knocked the thread out some. i don't know if it was a climax to all the activity and anticipation, or if people just saw The Who differently at 60 and without John. plus Roger's apparent decline....

i myself love The Who <3. but the way they came back was bittersweet for me. i like the album (Endless Wire) although in need of trimming, and the tour was ok. but i think this needs to be said: the tour was ok and just ok. the band had its moments, sometimes in stretches, and its great they played lots of new tunes. but the rest of the set was the same they have been doing for eight years, the loss of john hurt more then what could have been imagined in 2002 and 2004 when they toured without him (Endless Wire also would have been a different album with him), Roger has declined after many good years, and the weak spot in the band, Zak Starkey, seemed to stop drumming with his sights on Moon and started drumming more like a standard time keeper. i looked at a vid of My Gen live the other day and at the bridge where he used to tear it up, he just keeps the beat whike the band goes nuts. maybe Pete told him to do it like that, maybe he did it himself, but meh. not the drummer he was in '99 or '02 for them.

but i want to post here more. i want to remember The Who as they have apparently ended, with less then a bang, but also like we used to before they came back in '06. like we used to discuss here. the albums, the fire, the passion, the performances we all missed, the freakin' GREATEST ROCK N ROLL BAND EVER!

That was The Who. still is, always will be, lets not forget it here at R&M.

So yeah, how 'bout that Who....:chug:

[Jude]

I started repeatedly listening to their Greatest Hits CD the other week and loving it. You Better You Bet is a freaking awesome song, I got extra-hooked on that one.

Don't have any of their actual albums, though.

[JohnXDoe]

You Better You Bet is a great pop song. The Who made some great pop music in their day.

so far ad getting a Who album if you don't have one in mind already, well, its hard to recommend. they were a much different band onstage then in the studio, and had such a long, varied career of music making its hard to say what to start anyone with, although we all have our opinions.

i like to recommend The Kids Are Alright soundtrack, myself. its what got me listening / hooked and i think it could do the same for many. live stuff, singles, rarities. its good stuff to be sure. i also recommend the DVD video "30 Years Of Maximum R&B Live." those are both very good introductions to the band, as the band explains the whole twisted logic that is The Who. or they try to....

don't know about the new "Amazing Jouney:The Story Of The Who," but it covers everything up to present, features Roger, Pete, and others from the organization, and is getting rave reviews:

http://www.thewhomovie.com/

The Who are good at this rock documentary thing...and great subjects, as well....

[Seafroggys]

So I saw this documentary on the Who on USA the other night, it was apparently one that originally aired on VH1 Classic about 3 weeks ago, I remember seeing ads for it but since I don't have Digital Cable I don't get it.

Anyway, it was REALLY good. I learned a lot from it. They had current interviews with Roger and Pete, and they also included interviews with John that were probably done in 2000-02 era before he died. Lots of new stuff learned. They also showed concert footage I had never seen elsewhere, and alternate camera angles to concerts that I have seen. For example, the first gig that they did for The Kids are Alright (that was later aborted in favor of the second one at Shepparton in May 78, this first one was in late 77 I think) they played a cool version of Who Are You, no synthesizer backing track, Pete just sort of built up the riff on the guitar and they launched into the song. So Moonie did have a chance to play that song live!

And what surprised me the most.....there's ****ing film footage of Live at Leeds. It was a camera in the back corner of the room that was stationary, and B&W, but there was a camera there. It was ****ing amazing, I didn't think such footage existed, only audio.

EDIT: Oh, you already talked about it. It was Amazing Journey. ****ing amazing, me tell you.

[Milestogo05]

Why do you fags post in gay threads like this, but not my thread?

why do you think this thread is gay??

because its not heavy screamo ****?

the who is a lot better than that crap

[Seafroggys]

why do you think this thread is gay??

because its not heavy screamo poop?

the who is a lot better than that crap

wow....just wow....

I need to get Tommy and Quad back. I've loaned them out for like 3 months now!

[ATM]

That documentary was really good. They showed it on VH1 with no commercials.

[Lunch]

yea I recorded it, haven't watched it yet though

[ATM]

You'll love it. My parents walked by and ending up getting sucked in as well haha

[Lunch]

yea my dad said it was solid, and he's got a pretty high standard for things like that. He said they played a lot of their early material (a lot of the unreleased stuff that ended up on Thirty Years of Maximum R&B or other compilations) which is cool.

[wanderer]

The Who - 1980 Toronto CNE and Maple Leaf Gardens footage

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ivnx6k-iSuc

[Seafroggys]

I don't know if I mentioned this, but I lost Sell Out.

I bought it in early October, I listened to it once, and I haven't found the CD since. I didn't even have a chance to rip the MP3s off of it.

[JohnXDoe]

haha you suck at backing up The Who :lol:

[User Name]

Lol I actually lost Sell Out right after I bought it too. I forget where I found it, but I had already put it on my mp3 player. I still don't like the album much.

[JohnXDoe2]

hey its still here!

hooray

anyway the old guys are still going strong. well maybe not strong but they are going :p

did anyone see the VH1 Honors show on tv? that was pretty good. i still have a problem with others covering The Who live (bands seem to fare better on record where The Who sometimes fared worse) but the talent assembled did ok.

i didn't care much for what foo fighters did to Young Man Blues and Bargain. basically made them standard hard rock songs. and whereas Keith was a powerful drummer, that foo fighter drummer was just overkill. You don't have to pound the skins like you're trying to bust them to play Who songs

too much bombast

i thought Flaming Lips fared well....as well as Tenacious D . and Pearl Jam did very nicely. those three sort of showed they understand Who music. i think your average hard rock or metal band kinda doesn't

i especially liked the beginning of the show when they assembled popular artist from music, tv, film, and asked them about The Who. what was The Who to them. great, great answers. the best one i thought came from Conan 'O Brien. when they asked the folks (Slash, Sting, Joan Jett, Cameron Crowe, Dennis Hopper, Noel Gallegher, Mick Jones, among other notables) to sum up The Who to them in one word, some really accurate descriptions came in. but Conan said it all when he looked straight at the camera and said with a very convincing sneer not typical of Conan...

"untidy"

you just had to see it. i just sort of thought 'yup, thats it'


LONG LIVE THE WHO

[JohnXDoe2]

Also, seems The Who have a new album coming out pretty soon. I'm not sure if its this year or next, but its produced by noted board man T Bone Burnett and is said to be an album of R&B covers with perhaps some originals thrown in for good measure

Pete says he hopes its as good as some of the "original" Who albums (perhaps he is talking of the old "Maximum R&B" days) and also says it will be a "more conventional" Who album then the bands 2006 release Endless Wire.

Rogers voice is the wild card here. its pretty much blown. but for singing some gruff R&B vocals i think it'll do ok. maybe Burntett can smooth them out. on Endless Wire Pete just recorded Rog's vocals raw. i still wonder why he did that

meh...with no John its not really "The Who." I think we all know that. but on record the other guys (Pino) do good and the old men still have some kick in them yet. i'm looking forward to it

Long Live Rock, etc

[JohnXDoe2]

The Who are playing some dates this coming Fall. these have been announced, more to follow.


Oct. 21 Palace of Auburn Hills
Detroit, MI

Oct. 22 Copps Coliseum
Hamilton, Ontario

Oct. 24 TD Banknorth Garden
Boston, MA

Oct. 26 Wachovia Center
Philadelphia, PA

Oct. 28 Mohegan Sun Arena
Uncasville, CT

Oct. 29 Izod Center
East Rutherford, NJ

Oct. 31 The Borgata
Atlantic City, NJ

Nov. 03 Verizon Center
Washington, DC

Nov. 8 Nokia Theatre
Los Angeles, CA

Nov. 9 Nokia Theatre
Los Angeles, CA

[McP3000]

Also, seems The Who have a new album coming out pretty soon. I'm not sure if its this year or next, but its produced by noted board man T Bone Burnett and is said to be an album of R&B covers with perhaps some originals thrown in for good measure
do not want