Children Of Bodom

[williams part 1]

hey ducran when is your account getting unbanned? just wondering

[Chu]

I think MRDuCran got a perm ban.

[Forlorn Hope]

Why exactly?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Posting a shock link.

Do you fags want some Bodom tabs?

Oh you don't? Oh well, tough, have some.

Here's "The Nail" sweep picking section at the end of the song. It's from "Something Wild" by the way.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R7BU8OKM

Oh yes.

[Shadows Within]

wtf is a shock link?

[AA-12]

There's a new CoB live album out I saw at my record store. What is it?

[williams part 1]

Posting a shock link.

Do you fags want some Bodom tabs?

Oh you don't? Oh well, tough, have some.

Here's "The Nail" sweep picking section at the end of the song. It's from "Something Wild" by the way.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R7BU8OKM

Oh yes.ohshi thanks ducran these tabs will be so helpfull praise the tabs

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

There's a new CoB live album out I saw at my record store. What is it?

Chaos Ridden Years.

Shadows, didn't we go over this? I thought you knew...

[Shadows Within]

no I asked but they just told me to google it which is impossible...

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Stuff like meatspin. But I posted umm, bagslap I think.

[Shadows Within]

Yeah that doesn't help but w/e...

[AA-12]

Why can't you google

[Shadows Within]

because nothing ****in comes up

[AA-12]

type in these on google images:

goatse
*******
meatspin
mudfall

[Apocalyptic Raids]

lol

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Yeah that doesn't help but w/e...

:eek: You don't know what meatspin is?

Well I'll have to tell you to google that because if I link it, I'll get teh ban again.

[Huber]

********** is the worst imo.

[eug008]

Yeah that doesn't help but w/e...
Wikipedia - Shock Site.

[repcak]

finally my notebook arrived :D

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Cool.

[Perhaps Crickets]

k. swt.

sup ghost

sup mitch

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Wat up with the...

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

??

[Perhaps Crickets]

page stretching ftw lolol

how's it goin'

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Not bad, trying to write a solo over a 3 chord backing track. I suck at it.

[Perhaps Crickets]

ahh. good times

for personal playing or school?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Personal playing. It's a backing track from a Kylahullut song and I've given it to a few other people and we're basically just doing one each, then I'm going to transcribe the solo Alexi wrote for it and we can all compare ours to his.

We're gonna loose.

[Perhaps Crickets]

lol yeah

I actually love Kylahullut. that style of music fits Alexi so well.

I've been thinking of learning a bodom solo, which is easier(of them) and without sweeps ?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I love them too, except the dudes voice, that's kinda annoying...

A solo without sweeps? Follow the Reaper.

I don't think Taste of my Scythe does either, or Northern Comfort. Needled 24/7, In Your Face.

[Perhaps Crickets]

I love them too, except the dudes voice, that's kinda annoying...

A solo without sweeps? Follow the Reaper.

I don't think Taste of my Scythe does either, or Northern Comfort. Needled 24/7, In Your Face.

i've been getting addicted to In Your Face lately.

very sweet tune. The lyrics aren't as bad as people say either.

Are those the only ones without sweeps? I'd have to say, IYF or Needled are the ones I like best of those.

I've never really liked ToMS :p

[repcak]

the WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW is really annoying... can you delete it pls?!

or i will visit you at home as a ghost again... scared?! :D

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

In Your Face is great, I've loved it ever since the album leaked and I got hold of it. I actually like the lyrics, people are just too over critical and need to cut it out.

I think they're practically the only songs with out sweeps yeah...

I mean, there's songs that just have one or two that are at a medium or slow tempo like Bodom After Midnight, Bed of Razors, Everytime I Die.

Actually, listen to the Hatebreeder solos, there's no sweeping in them.

[repcak]

mitch are you perm banned now?

[Perhaps Crickets]

In Your Face is great, I've loved it ever since the album leaked and I got hold of it. I actually like the lyrics, people are just too over critical and need to cut it out.

I think they're practically the only songs with out sweeps yeah...

I mean, there's songs that just have one or two that are at a medium or slow tempo like Bodom After Midnight, Bed of Razors, Everytime I Die.

Actually, listen to the Hatebreeder solos, there's no sweeping in them.

kk. I'll try to sort through some tunes tomorrow. thx.

Yeah, the lyrics are quite good. If you look at what he says before the chorus, it makes sense.

the WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW is really annoying... can you delete it pls?!

or i will visit you at home as a ghost again... scared?! :D

totally babe! :cool:

Night guys!

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

ARE YOU DEAD YET???? I mean, aRe YoU pErM bAnNeD!!?!?!?!? ƒuck ƒuck oH yEaH

Yup.

[repcak]

thanks, night, sleep and dream well ;)

[Perhaps Crickets]

people just like to say "omg mindless lyrics". i have to admit. alexi does write some quite good lyrics, but just not what most people like. that's all. he's not a brilliant writer, but he's good. excellent considering his booze intake. lolol.

@ the request of ghost, I removed teh wwwwetc

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

His lyrics mean something to him and if you know about his past you can easily understand that. Most people are just to ignorant to accept it, prolly.

[repcak]

alexi tried to kill himself, and took anit-depressive-pills - you can see this in the needled 24/7 lyrics; those helped me during my depressive time a lot

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

alexi tried to kill himself, and took anit-depressive-pills - you can see this in the needled 24/7 lyrics; those helped me during my depressive time a lot

Yeah. Also in Mask of Sanity, Bed of Razors.

[repcak]

yes, but the needled 24/7 lyrics are the only one i really paid attention to... the other lyrics i don't really know.

in 1 1/2 week i will start playin guitar again... my wrist seems ok, next week i travel home and afterwards (6th november) i will start playin again

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

1 1/2 weeks? That's quite a long time, you're brave to have held it off for this long, but of course, for a good reason, you've done well.

Just remember that you're probably going to play a bit sloppoy when you pick it up again so don't rush, you'll need to slowly bring your fingers back into the routine of playing again, but I'm sure you realise this already...

[kurrpt2]

fuk the guitar forum :lol:

how's Mitch doing today?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Sup Kurrpt (oh sht it rhymes, oh yes)

Well as I was telling the Dil man, I'm trying to write a decent solo over a 3 chord backing track on GP4. It's an Alexi thing but I took the lead guitar away. I really suck at writing solos so I guess I'm practising that.

[kurrpt2]

sounds like fun...

I've been working non-stop on synching my left and right hands perfectly. I finally worked it back up to 16ths, 100 bpm. I just wasn't satisfied, ya know.

Finally got high speed at home :D

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Shouldn't your hands be in synch at all times though?

[kurrpt2]

:lol:


in theory, definitely. My problem was that they weren't 100% in synch at ALL times, which really started to aggrevate me. Really sucked trying to get better at chromatics when it starts to go south.

I really just had to focus on my picking hand more, than slowly be able to FEEL both in synch at the same time.

[williams part 1]

Not bad, trying to write a solo over a 3 chord backing track. I suck at it.didnt you say you were better then me? yet you cant even solo over a simple backingtrack...but still you can play 3 notes per string at 200 bpm

[kurrpt2]

can you say BLOCKED :lol:?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

didnt you say you were better then me? yet you cant even solo over a simple backingtrack...but still you can play 3 notes per string at 200 bpm

I suck at WRITING solos. If you're talking about playing, then I'm way above your pathetic ***.

My hands aren't always in synch either. I was thinking about reallly practising Paul Gilbert's Terror Death Lick because it sounds awesome and I can't really play it because I've never practised it for longer than 10 minutes or so.

[kurrpt2]

exactly. It really pisses me off if I'm playing a section of about 100 notes, and after 30 notes or so, my hands become unsynched, and it starts to go bad for a few notes, it's just really aggrevating, so I'm trying to eliminate it 100%

[williams part 1]

I suck at WRITING solos. If you're talking about playing, then I'm way above your pathetic ***.

My hands aren't always in synch either. I was thinking about reallly practising Paul Gilbert's Terror Death Lick because it sounds awesome and I can't really play it because I've never practised it for longer than 10 minutes or so.if you cant write a simple solo over a 3 chord backing track what makes you think your playing is way above mine? lol seriously your like michael angelo batio. all you do is do scale runs 200 bpm but cant put a simple song together for **** good job ducran

[kurrpt2]

report'd for trolling....

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

exactly. It really pisses me off if I'm playing a section of about 100 notes, and after 30 notes or so, my hands become unsynched, and it starts to go bad for a few notes, it's just really aggrevating, so I'm trying to eliminate it 100%

Same trouble here. I usually just end up getting stressed/bored though.

Your attention span is probably higher than mine.

[kurrpt2]

haha, not really at all...

I've really worked a TON on my focus, and what my mind is doing while I practice, and really getting the most out of my time. It didn't seem like repeating the lick at a certain speed for 5 minutes was really getting the most out of my time, unless my mind was fully aware with what is going on.

Its much easier now staying in time as well, and accenting the down beat. Like on 3 note per string runs, I can now tell if im using a down stroke, or up stroke, and am able to accentuate that regardless. It's helping me favor downstrokes even less.

Sweeps having gotten a lot tighter as well, which makes me pretty giddy

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I think we both spend too much time talking about technique and not enough time practising it...:upset:

I suck.

[kurrpt2]

well, friday i really practiced my fukking arse off. 4 hours of metronome, 2 of those hours were non-stop, no breaks.

Saturday I was basically fukked when they hooked up my high speed, because I had a friend over, and we played xbox LIVE for about 6 hours straight. I felt guilty and snuck out of bed at midnight to metronome for an hour

Yesterday, my girl decided to walk around the house in the nude all day, so that limited to the guitar practice.

again, i felt guilty and snuck out of bed at like 12:30 a.m. and metronome'd for an hour.

Today, I'm pretty excited about practicing and getting this in synch over 100 bpm. I'll probably get at least 2 hours in

[williams part 1]

well, friday i really practiced my fukking arse off. 4 hours of metronome, 2 of those hours were non-stop, no breaks.

Saturday I was basically fukked when they hooked up my high speed, because I had a friend over, and we played xbox LIVE for about 6 hours straight. I felt guilty and snuck out of bed at midnight to metronome for an hour

Yesterday, my girl decided to walk around the house in the nude all day, so that limited to the guitar practice.

again, i felt guilty and snuck out of bed at like 12:30 a.m. and metronome'd for an hour.

Today, I'm pretty excited about practicing and getting this in synch over 100 bpm. I'll probably get at least 2 hours inthis wouldnt be a problem if you could read music

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I sometimes get about 2 hours in non stop too but it's not an every day thing unfortunately.

I find that if I practise different things, it keeps it interesting whereas usually I just practise the same 3 licks for 2 hours and get really bored/tired but if I pracise some picking, some tapping and then sweeping, I can go for longer.

I just need to get the hell into bed and stop sitting here doing absolutely nothing.


Btw,

williams part 1 This message is hidden because williams part 1 is on your ignore list


HEHE.

[kurrpt2]

now if only everyone we knew blocked him :lol:


I get at least 2 hours in on a daily basis, which never seems like it's enough. The more and more I practice, I will say it seems like I get more and more out of that 2 hours.

I think I may work on some In Flames rhythm tracks tonight. I'm pretty excited about downtuning my 7 string and seeing how it goes

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Tuning down to Bb isn't it?

I should listen to more In Flames. What song(s) you learning?

[kurrpt2]

sorry, just caught this message...

Really, i want to start working on a lot of tracks from "soundtrack to your escape"

I'm going to learn Dead Alone first, then probably Touch of Red. I'm so addicted to this CD as of now, that it's cutting into my CoB habbit

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I have that cd. I was at college and someone found it just sitting in a cd player so I grabbed it just for the sake of having it, I'd only ever heard one IF song prior to that.

I told myself I was going to learn some Arch Enemy but I haven't got round to it. Maybe some more Meshuggah too. And Sinergy.

[kurrpt2]

I could see me learning a meshuggah track or two eventually. I love the positive vibe get from In Flames, and I would like to recreate that

[williams part 1]

I have that cd. I was at college and someone found it just sitting in a cd player so I grabbed it just for the sake of having it, I'd only ever heard one IF song prior to that.

I told myself I was going to learn some Arch Enemy but I haven't got round to it. Maybe some more Meshuggah too. And Sinergy.seriously if you apply yourself and get a teacher and learn classical you can become a really good player, but until you realize that your just a stupid shreddy that cant solo over a simple 3 chord progression you should rethink on what makes a good guitarist and too kurrpt2 you really need to learn to focus on composition and not always speed, sure its a good goal tog et speed but it shouldnt be your main priority. seriosly guys im giving you some good advice get teachers because you both are going down in a rut you soon cant get out of

[kurrpt2]

i practice perfection, and achieveing that 100% of the time.

[repcak]

1 1/2 weeks? That's quite a long time, you're brave to have held it off for this long, but of course, for a good reason, you've done well.

Just remember that you're probably going to play a bit sloppoy when you pick it up again so don't rush, you'll need to slowly bring your fingers back into the routine of playing again, but I'm sure you realise this already...

thanks :)
and yes i know. at first i will play only for 30mins to max 1hour and when it will be ok for the first few days i will increase my practise time to 30-1hour twice daily (morning and evening).
at first i will do only chromatics and easy chords; then i will move to some metallica stuff and easy songs... i will need 2-3weeks to get to my older level of playing for sure and i will NOT play any stretches (even if they are small) for the whole november.... holy ****... its frustrating but i can deal with it....

at least i improved my picking technique a lot and play in the style of paul gilbert/buckethead :D
and i have a BIG list of songs i plan to learn and some of them are easy so i won't get bored until i can play WHATEVER i want to in november :smash:

[Forlorn Hope]

I need to work on my picking. My alternate picking is bad, mostly when playing runs and such. The only really fast runs I can play are legato right now.

[repcak]

downpicking legato runs are easy... but upwards-legato-runs are much more difficult.

i have problems doing 3-notes per strings runs - its not accurate and fast; i have to work on that.

[kurrpt2]

yea, you obviously favor down strokes a bit too much...


I've been working on legato and picking hand 85% of the time, which seems to be the 2 biggest things holding me back right now

I like doing legato stretches like 1 34 6 , and playing that stretch all the way over the fretboard, getting it perfectly in synch. It makes 3 note per string legato runs so much easier

[repcak]

no not really... the funny thing is that the problem ARE my downpicks :lol:
how i mentioned before i use economic picking while doing 3string runs and the problem are the downs, but i just can't play it alternate...

[kurrpt2]

your picking hand is confused and your economy picking is causing the problem...

what helped me a lot was spend about 20 minutes and figure out the absolute BEST way for me to do an upstroke, and a down stroke. Like, where the pick is making contact with the string, what motion my wrist is doing, what I'm focusing on, etc.

Once you have a frame of reference, I started at like 75 bpm, and started playing 1/8th notes (just with the pick hand, not bringing my fret hand in the picture yet) and really so how well I could reproduce that "perfect" stroke over, and over, and over...

for me, I try to achieve that perfection, and I will continue playing at that speed for about 15-20 minutes, or like my practice now where I'm doing legato stretches (1 34 6), I'll play that same tempo unless I can keep it perfect for like 30 minutes straight.

I'm really obcessed with eliminating mistakes, so that's the best thing for me

[repcak]

does anyone know if alexi or other guitarist (as examples) use economy picking on 3notes per string- runs?

[kurrpt2]

you easily could do it, but thats part of the problem. If you have ingrained into your muscle memory that you are an economy picker, it will cause problems when you try to break that habbit.

I know loomis uses eco picking in some cases

[repcak]

yeah, thats it... fe.: 1234 twice on one string and then you're confused when you change strings... :upset:
-> cause of economy picking

[Shadows Within]

wtf is economy picking?

[kurrpt2]

exactly, that's what people don't understand about economy picking, is that eventually you will need to learn alt picking, and it could easily lead to problems

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

does anyone know if alexi or other guitarist (as examples) use economy picking on 3notes per string- runs?

Alexi doesn't.

Yngwie does
Michael Romeo does
Michael Angelo Batio does.

[Perhaps Crickets]

I never use "economy picking". never. ever. It's just sloppy, imho. I don't "Practice correctly" enough, so it'd make my playing a mess. Plus, alt picking is easier and sounds better.

For a late comment on Alexi's lyrics:

Yeah, I like Needled 24/7 lyrically quite a bit. I think the whole Bodom Beach Killings thing is really neat. He took something from his surroundings and kept with it throughout their rise to fame.

[AA-12]

I rarely eco pick.

[Shadows]

Alexi doesn't.

Yngwie does
Michael Romeo does
Michael Angelo Batio does.
Which is a good sign that you should stay away from it.

:p

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Eh, Paul Gilbert can prawn them all and he alternate picks.

[Apocalypticon]

For a late comment on Alexi's lyrics:

Yeah, I like Needled 24/7 lyrically quite a bit. I think the whole Bodom Beach Killings thing is really neat. He took something from his surroundings and kept with it throughout their rise to fame.

Yeah but after a certain amount of time the Bodom Beach theme will be become very boring and repetetive, and already somewhat is. I find that alot of Alexi's lyrics dealing with the Bodom Beach killings are actually pretty disappointing. The only ones I really like are Bodom After Midnight and SNBN. Bodom Beach Terror is a fairly disappointing song all together.

[AA-12]

Michael Romeo > Alexi > Yngwie > Batio

[Shadows Within]

woah I load up the page and whole new interface....

hey can you guys + rep me that red block is annoying.

[Shred Danson]

hey can you guys + rep me that red block is annoying.

Fishin' for reps!

Yeah but after a certain amount of time the Bodom Beach theme will be become very boring and repetetive, and already somewhat is. I find that alot of Alexi's lyrics dealing with the Bodom Beach killings are actually pretty disappointing. The only ones I really like are Bodom After Midnight and SNBN. Bodom Beach Terror is a fairly disappointing song all together.

Maybe it's because Alexi is a guitarist first, songwriter second :p Just making a guesstimation.

[Shadows Within]

YAY! green

[ghettoeddo]

Michael Romeo > Alexi > Yngwie > Batio

beyonce > romeo > alexi > yngwie > batio
i've been listening to her nonstop today.

anyway, bodom beach terror is my favorite song...

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

lol Beyonce.

Pink > Destiny's Child. :D

[ghettoeddo]

dont hate beyonce. listen to "resentment" by beyonce off her latest album during hte middle its like 15 minutes long it's freaking amazing. she's so good.

[AA-12]

Beyonce sucks in every way known to man.

Music
Looks
Being overrated

etc

[ghettoeddo]

get out you hurt my feelings :(

[AA-12]

<3<3

[ghettoeddo]

put one more and you may win me back ;)

[Shadows Within]

put 5 and mabye you'll get lucky

[ghettoeddo]

Get Outta My Mom's Closet

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

put 5 and mabye you'll get lucky

:lol:

[Shadows Within]

Get Outta My Mom's Closet

fine Wotans it is

[ghettoeddo]

i...must have missed the reference (if there is one) to something...

[Shadows Within]

Ok im lost...what?

[ghettoeddo]

let us just forget what happened in the past few posts.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

You get Beatcraft sorted out yet?

[Forlorn Hope]

So I came up with this cool riff just now, and I think it's a good lick to warm up with.
e|------------------------------------------------------------
b|------------------------------------------------------------
g|-13-12------------12-13-12-------------12-13-----------
d|--------15-14-15-------------15-14-15-------------------
a|--------------------------------------------------15-13-15
e|------------------------------------------------------------
It helps me with my alternate picking and finger independence (mostly between ring and pinkie).

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Sounds like it could be a classical piece if you expanded on it. Especially that bit where it goes to the A string.

[ghettoeddo]

i love the 12 position

[Forlorn Hope]

i love the 12 position

Me too. The frets are the perfect size for my fingers for lead stuff. I tried to learn the Passage To The Reaper Vivaldi thing, but the frets from 19 - 22 are so hard for me to play accurately. I guess I'm just not used to playing so high up on the fretboard.

[ghettoeddo]

higher frets dont bother me so much as playing on the lower strings :\ you gotta reach around and that interferes w/ my fingering

[MegaMustaine]

So does anyone have the Bodom DVD? Thoughts?

[repcak]

no.

i think i will re-learn my picking technique and will start to pick alternate... @kurrpt2: do you pick EVERYTHING alternate or do you make sometimes economy picking?

[kurrpt2]

i only will economy pick one note per string runs, and only when i feel they should be swept (like a lot of alexi licks). I find that alternate picking those 1 note per string runs is extremely difficult to do perfect with any kind of speed, so i will often practice it that way, even if its supposed to be alt picked.

If I'm playing chords, it's really a toss up. I will try it with all downstrokes, and get that perfect. Then I go back, and alternate pick/strum the chords, and see if I like the feel better, or if the chord sounds better. I like to practice both methods because I feel it makes me more rounded

[ghettoeddo]

i alternate pick everything as wel...in fact it's hard for me to play consistent downpick in songs like MoP so i just alternate it.

i cant sweep :(

[kurrpt2]

eh, its no big deal really. The majority of the people on this forum, or any forum can't sweep correctly.

It took me forever to be able to sweep triplets at 175 bpm

[repcak]

sweeping is one of the most difficult techniques for guitar... it takes years of right practising.

thanks kurrpt... i will work on that ;)

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Sweeping is easy.

[kurrpt2]

it is, depending on the speed and the shape of the sweep, as well as how hard the position change is, etc

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Nope. All shapes are the same. You're supposed to practise them all equally and that's what I did for that reason. What you need to do is practise all the 5 string shapes, 6 notes at 40bpm, clean guitar for an entire week and don't play anything else.

[Shadows Within]

Whats with all this ghey guitar talk? since when do Henkka or Jaska get any attention?

[kurrpt2]

that would be easy for me, especially at that speed Mitch.


7 string sweeps can be much harder than 3 string sweeps