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unknownsoldier12
10-03-2006, 04:57 PM
well, there ya go...
I'm juggling a 9.5 hour a day job, + a crazy finacee, and a jerkarse brother that won't move the fuk out of my house.
It doesnt sound too hard to squeeze in time to practice, except when my girl complains every time I want to plug into my Krank, or even turn on the metronome :lol:
MRDuCran
10-03-2006, 04:59 PM
Yeah. I had one teacher when I started for like 3 months and then quit, and went self taught. I used to practice (not much at all really) and got extremely better fast. Nowadays I don't play as much and still have my skill and am getting better.
So where's that SNBN recording...:smash:
AA-12
10-03-2006, 04:59 PM
Haha. I haven't played any Bodom in a long time.
unknownsoldier12
10-03-2006, 04:59 PM
agreed /\/\/\/\
MRDuCran
10-03-2006, 05:05 PM
Me neither actually. I play parts of a few solos alot but I haven't jammed out along with teh b0d0m sea deas in a while.
repcak
10-03-2006, 05:13 PM
so you want to attend a university next year, mitch, or did i understand you wrong?
MRDuCran
10-03-2006, 05:20 PM
so you want to attend a university next year, mitch, or did i understand you wrong?
Yeah that's right. I was thinking working in some crappy supermarket isn't going to buy me a house, car and help me raise a family or even myself right?
So I though I'll just go back to college and do their degree course or uni, or some special guitar school. I still need to decide but at least it'll give me some better qualifications so I can become a teacher or something of that nature.
repcak
10-03-2006, 05:28 PM
yeah, that are great news! you should do it... learn as long as you can!
... but what will you do during this year?
MRDuCran
10-03-2006, 05:41 PM
Practise probably. I want to be prepared for it and as I said to Kurrpt, I want to be the Paul Gilbert of the place I choose to go, so I need to practise LOTS.
AA-12
10-03-2006, 05:43 PM
Good luck, man. I'm planning on tech school or just a job.
repcak
10-03-2006, 05:45 PM
that are great news... i'm glad for you!
argh... i wanna play guitar again!!!!!! it kills me! my wrist is better, but there are still some motions i do which hurts... need to rest it more.
but its getting better from each day... so there is still HOPE :lol:
blue3
10-04-2006, 12:12 AM
My guitar teacher made me bend the high e string till it broke. The string almost hit my eye.
This should be called guitar discussion/bodom thread or something.
ghettoeddo
10-04-2006, 12:41 AM
i did that w/ my violin.
ur not supposed to use the big pegs near the "headstock" (im using guitar lingo haha) but i did and it was millimeteres from my eye. if it hit my eye, i'd be half blind right now.
metalhead_matt
10-04-2006, 04:04 AM
i hate tunin up from D to E, it always feels like the strings gonna snap
EDIT: Can someone do me a favour and upload Downfall? I've got it at home, but Im at college at the moment and i need it for my recording.
unknownsoldier12
10-04-2006, 08:44 AM
if the strings are stretched properly, tuning up a step shouldn't be a problem (well, if you are using 10s or 11s)
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 12:42 PM
So yer, I tabbed SNBN again. I think it looks kewler this way and the interlude is actually correct, unlike the other tabs.
http://download.yousendit.com/3178B7F64E966C9A
repcak
10-04-2006, 01:00 PM
wow... respect to this version!
unknownsoldier12
10-04-2006, 01:07 PM
fukking dammit..
can you export that to PDF for me Mitch?
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 01:43 PM
Yeah, it'll just be Alexi's part though.
There's a few notes that indicate a bar dive but it's meant to be a slide out. The reason I used a bar dive instead is because the slide takes effect instantly and sometimes the note is held, then a slide, so I used the bar to simulate that sound.
http://download.yousendit.com/87D9BA2744666B36
unknownsoldier12
10-04-2006, 01:43 PM
thats cool with me bro :thumb:
I knew that tab was fukked, so i actually moved onto other CoB songs. I would love to put some time into it today when I go home, and then play it through my Krank
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 01:53 PM
Yeah, the way the sweeps are tabbed in other tabs would be extremely hard to get tight. That would explain the huge amount of bad covers, putting aside the fact that most of the people that attempt it can't even sweep before they try it...
I was thinking about a month ago, why the hell is it so hard but Alexi plays it so well. Then I thought about playing it my own way and playing the shapes starting from the top and going down but then it hit me that Alexi was just starting on the bottom of the arpeggio instead of the middle so I watched a live video and he was. I can't believe the tabs have been misleading people for 7 years.
unknownsoldier12
10-04-2006, 02:04 PM
that's definitely a good deduction, but to my defense, last night was the first time I got to see any CoB live footage (on you tube)
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 03:52 PM
:eek: First time last night? Wow, I'm certainly not new to live videos of the Hate Crew.
unknownsoldier12
10-04-2006, 03:58 PM
thats because
A. No internets at home yet (whenever my bro moves the fuk out, my girl is letting me)
B. I'm blocked from any site that can be linked to having fun, while at work
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 04:29 PM
Oh right. Can you download from links?
unknownsoldier12
10-04-2006, 04:31 PM
it let me download that gp4 file, but not like mp3s and sh!t...
unfortunately, my brother is an arse, and never put guitar pro on his computer, and mine is still in storage.
GOD, i can't wait till he gets the fuk out
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 04:41 PM
Ah, I can imagine how annoying it is.
repcak
10-04-2006, 04:42 PM
i remember why you asked ppl in the general discussion forum, who it would be best way to kick your brother out... its a long time ago... and he's still living with you!? ... bad
repcak
10-04-2006, 04:43 PM
http://www.ahl.uni-linz.ac.at/cob/media/videos/Children_Of_Bodom_-_Hate_Me_(live).zip
Can you download that?
how the hell did you get this link? linz is a city near my hometown :eek:
though the link isn't working
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 04:51 PM
how the hell did you get this link? linz is a city near my hometown :eek:
though the link isn't working
I know the link isn't working, that's why I took it out. Although it was when I tested it last night. :confused:
repcak
10-04-2006, 05:01 PM
i know some ppl who are studying in linz... i may ask them ;)
edit: no, its not the university where they are studying...sorry
Forlorn Hope
10-04-2006, 09:49 PM
So yer, I tabbed SNBN again. I think it looks kewler this way and the interlude is actually correct, unlike the other tabs.
http://download.yousendit.com/3178B7F64E966C9A
:eek:
That is the only Guitar Pro tab i've ever listened to where everything didn't sound so crappy. Bends and such were right, and not all...guitar-pro-ey sounding :lol:
Nice job.
NP: Silent Night, Bodom Night :cool:
Shadows Within
10-04-2006, 09:53 PM
Keeyboards deffinitly wrong its some wierd harpsichord not slow string stuff.
Forlorn Hope
10-04-2006, 10:03 PM
Keeyboards deffinitly wrong its some wierd harpsichord not slow string stuff.
Some of it is strings I think.
Speaking of keyboard sounds, I think the coolest keyboard sound I've ever heard is the intro to Downfall. :)
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 11:00 PM
:eek:
That is the only Guitar Pro tab i've ever listened to where everything didn't sound so crappy. Bends and such were right, and not all...guitar-pro-ey sounding :lol:
Nice job.
NP: Silent Night, Bodom Night :cool:
Thanks. ;)
Keeyboards deffinitly wrong its some wierd harpsichord not slow string stuff.
Well it's not wrong then is it really. I chose that sound on purpose because it sounds better IMO than the harpsichord.
Shadows Within
10-04-2006, 11:23 PM
Thanks. ;)
Well it's not wrong then is it really. I chose that sound on purpose because it sounds better IMO than the harpsichord.
well i guess theres opinions...but ive been wondering how Janne plays that for a whille....
MRDuCran
10-04-2006, 11:27 PM
Plays what part?
Shadows Within
10-05-2006, 07:31 AM
The Harpsichord parts
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 08:42 AM
i remember why you asked ppl in the general discussion forum, who it would be best way to kick your brother out... its a long time ago... and he's still living with you!? ... bad
O man, you have NO idea...
I get it from both sides everyday. It's enough to drive you mad :lol:
repcak
10-05-2006, 10:34 AM
i'm happy that i have my own room, but some days ago two of my best girlfriends asked me if i would move with them into an apartment... i think i will do it. i don't want to live in an students place forever... sure it has advantages and disadvantages, but an apartment is much cooler :thumb:
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 10:44 AM
yea, you'd be dumb to turn that down, especially if they were "lookers" (hot)
i used to have my own guitar room, until my bro moved in :upset:
sad times these days
repcak
10-05-2006, 10:46 AM
btw. there is something written on alexis guitar:
http://www.jupitreas.com/metalstorm_wacken/cob.JPG
"establish world peace"???
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 10:48 AM
thats a bumper sticker actually
repcak
10-05-2006, 10:52 AM
hehe... nice avatar... but this will fit you better :thumb:
http://i2.tinypic.com/r0wmdk.jpg
:lol:
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 10:55 AM
haha, find me some more. I'll work on resizing this one :D
Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
10-05-2006, 10:55 AM
btw. there is something written on alexis guitar:
http://www.jupitreas.com/metalstorm_wacken/cob.JPG
"establish world peace"???
Establish World Peace,Kill Everyone :)
Also has one that says You Touch,You Die
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 11:06 AM
I've been trying to learn more Bodom songs since I got my 7 string (real easy to tune down a full step) but my girlfriend won't leave me alone long enough to concentrate. It's getting pretty damn annoying.
I think tonight I will protest and just "get 'er done"
repcak
10-05-2006, 11:06 AM
:lol:
:thumb: @ Kurrpts avatar
btw. alexi looks on this picture a little like shred durst :lol:
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 11:09 AM
I started going to guitar center for an hour every day this week just to get 30-60 minutes of more practice in a given day...
A little too obcessive maybe?
repcak
10-05-2006, 11:16 AM
no not obsessive if its on the way home... but as far as i know, most guitar centers don't like it if ppl come to them to practise...
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 11:17 AM
i really don't give a fuk. I've dropped about 4000-6000 in that store
repcak
10-05-2006, 11:19 AM
oh ok... if you're already famous it doesn't matter... you're right :p
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 11:21 AM
yea, yesterday day the one associate actually recommended I try out this Ibanez because he knew I would like it.
It turns out, he was exactly right. Best fukking neck I've ever played on an Ibanez, and this is coming from a guy that purchased a JEM there, and then traded it back to them because it was trash
repcak
10-05-2006, 01:55 PM
wow... i just played guitar again... too stupid i can play only the E,A,D,G,B notes :upset:
but at least i can concentrate only on my picking hand. i do:
-------0-0-0-
0-0-0-------etc
and
-------------0-0-0-0-0
-0-0-0-0-0----------
yeah (5notes)
and some string skipping... and some random rhythms (without metronome)
what else could i do? :lol:
unknownsoldier... you're good in the sense of theory ... some good advice... this can be the best time (for me) to concentrate on proper picking technique.
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 02:01 PM
yea man, thats really what I've been focusing on..... a lot
If I could only work on my picking hand, i would do endurance excercises at slow speeds for an extended period of time. A good example would be like watching TV, yet having the metronome at like 69-80 bpm, and just chug along at 16th notes for a while, yet trying to maintain proper technique.
Also, you could work on arpeggios. Tune your guitar to like an open tuning and just focus on the string making contact with the pick. You need to really feel where on the pick it is making contact.
You could also work on dynamics. Lets say you were playing 16th notes (4 notes per beat). You could really accentuate the down beat (where the click falls) by digging into the string, or giving it more attack. On the subsequent notes after (the other 3 notes of the beat) try to make them softer, yet uniform.
I would also do string skipping exercises. Like, play 4 notes on the Low E, then 4 notes on the A, then 4 notes on the low E, then 4 notes on the D, then 4 notes on the low E, then 4 notes on the G, etc.
I'm sure I could come up with more. That's just off the top of my head
repcak
10-05-2006, 02:08 PM
when i do solos stuff my fingers are angled (a slight fist) but when i do rhythm my fingers are placed somwhere on the body of the guitar (mainly right beneath the strings)... is this a bad habit?
when i play songs i change the position, so its never a problem, but right now when concentrating only on my right hand its stupid... maybe i should practise both ways?
ps.: your new avatar owns !!!
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 02:18 PM
thanks, its actually growing on me more and more and more...
as far as your picking technique is concerned, it REALLY doesn't matter, but if it were me, i would try to have it uniform.
I look at guitar similar to the way I used to pitch baseball back in the day. You want find the BEST way to perform an action, and have that as your reference point. Your goal is to have everything be the exact same when you go through the motions. This way, it will allow to find better ways to perform a task, as well as give you that precision you need where you no longer make mistakes
repcak
10-05-2006, 02:28 PM
yeah, i have to watch some more guitar vids... f.e.: would like to play like paul gilbert but its the way i only do solo-stuff.
on the other hand my techique is similiar to the one of alexi laiho and Jani Liimatainen (more Jani, than Alexi) - whatever... i have to watch them and decide whats better for me.
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 02:41 PM
theres nothing wrong with watching your guitar heros and trying to cop some technique ideas of them.
The thing is, im really not that impressed with any of the guitarist's technique you've mentioned. If you want to see someone with REALLY good technique, watch some more Michael Romeo videos, or even better, some Buckethead and Shawn Lane videos.
The last 2 people I've mentioned have some of the BEST technique I've ever seen, so thats really who I try to emulate
metalhead_matt
10-05-2006, 03:41 PM
how does alexi get his tone for the toyko warhearts live album? i love his tone on that live album
unknownsoldier12
10-05-2006, 03:53 PM
i could get close with my setup, but you'd have to ask Mitch or Repcak. I haven't seen NEARLY enough live footage to tell you his setup on that album
MRDuCran
10-05-2006, 05:18 PM
how does alexi get his tone for the toyko warhearts live album? i love his tone on that live album
Custom Jackson RR-1 with Seymour Duncan pickups I think and it was the first time he used the Je-100 gainboost in his guitar with Children of Bodom.
Modified Lee Jackson gp-1000 pre-amp (perfect connection) with either his Engl or Peavey power amp and a Rocktron Intellifex with 300-watt Marshall cabs.
It's the same stuff he used for Hatebreeder and Follow the Reaper and I think Hate Crew Deathroll.
Po0sH
10-05-2006, 05:40 PM
how does alexi get his tone for the toyko warhearts live album? i love his tone on that live album
tbqh i thought it was total crap. Also it had to do with how he was playing, and the rhythms he played very sloppily. Sometimes, I would just listen to Ale just because Alexi was irritating my right ear. Sure maybe it was mixed bad i donno, but check Lake bodom, during the chorus, you cannot hear what he is playing,it just sounds like noise. That sucks. He did the leads very well though, so maybe it was just a mixing issue.
MRDuCran
10-05-2006, 06:09 PM
I think his tone was good. Maybe it sounds bad sometimes because he's concentrating on the vocals, not to mention the parts are hard.
The Chaos Ridden Years cd has leaked btw. It's really not that great tbh, even Roope sounds bada lot of the time.
repcak
10-05-2006, 06:37 PM
theres nothing wrong with watching your guitar heros and trying to cop some technique ideas of them.
The thing is, im really not that impressed with any of the guitarist's technique you've mentioned. If you want to see someone with REALLY good technique, watch some more Michael Romeo videos, or even better, some Buckethead and Shawn Lane videos.
The last 2 people I've mentioned have some of the BEST technique I've ever seen, so thats really who I try to emulate
thanks... i will check them out... i have the full Young Guitar video with Michael Romeo.
i don't know Shawn Lane (i suppose Youtube.com?)
But Buckethead...yeah... hm... does there exist any guitarvideos by him... i never saw one.
i could get close with my setup, but you'd have to ask Mitch or Repcak. I haven't seen NEARLY enough live footage to tell you his setup on that album
repcak -> setup -> amp-question -> bad idea :p
tbqh i thought it was total crap. Also it had to do with how he was playing, and the rhythms he played very sloppily. Sometimes, I would just listen to Ale just because Alexi was irritating my right ear. Sure maybe it was mixed bad i donno, but check Lake bodom, during the chorus, you cannot hear what he is playing,it just sounds like noise. That sucks. He did the leads very well though, so maybe it was just a mixing issue.
the tokoy warhearts is one of the best live-cd i've heard... and alexi plays all the solos and riffs very very good...
I think his tone was good. Maybe it sounds bad sometimes because he's concentrating on the vocals, not to mention the parts are hard.
The Chaos Ridden Years cd has leaked btw. It's really not that great tbh, even Roope sounds bada lot of the time.
hm... bad news... i hope its cause its a leaked version... i hope the tone will be better on the dvd.
MRDuCran
10-05-2006, 06:46 PM
Not the tone, the playing.
repcak
10-05-2006, 06:56 PM
i can't imagine Roope (!) playing bad :eek:
/good night
MRDuCran
10-05-2006, 07:18 PM
Well he doesn't sound that great tbqh. :upset:
Rocksane
10-05-2006, 10:11 PM
alexi used totally different settings for hcd from ftr and hatebreeder.
MRDuCran
10-05-2006, 11:37 PM
Different mics for the cabs too apparantly.
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 08:51 AM
worked through a large portion of that tab last night, and I must say, JOB WELL DONE...
now we just have to coerce you into doing some more CoB tabs
repcak
10-06-2006, 08:55 AM
do you know what song buckethead is playing in this video?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AWDY3rD71Ic&mode=related&search=
edit: welcome to bucketland... i've got it... i have to learn this song... awesome :D
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 09:06 AM
I'm blocked from that site regardless :/
As i was saying before, if you really pay attention to his technique, you should be able to tell how solid/flawless it really is
repcak
10-06-2006, 09:09 AM
yeah, his picking technique is the same as Paul gilberts and the one i would like to use ... i have to practise it, though its difficult.
btw. is it better to play guitar on the left leg or right leg... normally it should be played on the left leg, but buckethead (and even paul gilbert) plays it on the right leg?!
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 09:12 AM
i like playing with it on my left leg personally, which is referred to as the "classical" position. That's not to say I won't play with it on my right leg, I just feel its more comfortable the traditional way, and I find it easier to access any fret that way.
As long as you don't find it limiting, I wouldn't really worry about it
repcak
10-06-2006, 09:16 AM
yeah ok... i will stay playing on my left leg :D
the buckethead lesson is sick... f.e.: tapping with four fingers (picking head) - he has indeed a great technique...
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 09:18 AM
check out some Shawn Lane videos too...
You can tell that Shawn Lane and Buckethead have practiced together
eug008
10-06-2006, 09:41 AM
Shawn Lane = :eek:
His instructional video is just insane.
repcak
10-06-2006, 09:49 AM
i saw some Shawn Lane videos but they weren't good... or well... not my style of playing... but maybe i should watch some instructional lessons.
... i'm off, now... -> real life ;)
edit: Kurrpt you have to listen to Welcome to Bucketland!! This song is sooo fukking GREAT!!!!
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 09:50 AM
his music really isn't my bag, but that wasn't the motive behind me recommending his videos
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 12:04 PM
worked through a large portion of that tab last night, and I must say, JOB WELL DONE...
now we just have to coerce you into doing some more CoB tabs
Beat you to it. I've already corrected/tabbed a lot of their stuff by myself.
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 01:17 PM
sorry, I should have said "tabs for songs that I'm currently interested in learning"
COUGHbodombeachterrorCOUGH
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 02:27 PM
I didn't tab it but it's near perfect.
http://download.yousendit.com/DD05BA3C08DF0A8E
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 02:28 PM
any way i could convince you to export that again for me
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 02:45 PM
lol fukk, sorry I keep forgetting.
Rhythm:
http://download.yousendit.com/40C123D100110D7E
Lead:
http://download.yousendit.com/604DA66F34107D99
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 02:54 PM
damn skippy DuCran :D
I waited till my girl went to bed, and played along with that other tab for about 2 hours, getting it pefect...
I've been anxious to learn this one. Hopefully i get the other done tomorrow, so i can start on this one.
I owe ya
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 03:04 PM
Did you compare my version of the interlude to the other tabs?? And see hwo much easier mine is. I should be saying the correct way because it's the way Alexi has been playing it since he wrote it. I was amazing when I realised how much easier to really is.
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 03:38 PM
yea, of course.
I always had a good ear, so i could tell even before I went home and tried it.
the intro was slightly different (better) as well as the sweeps, which were more logical
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 04:07 PM
The intro is actually perfect. I watched about 5 live videos of Roope so I could see where he played it. The open B string could be the 4th fret on the G string but it'd be easier to pull off so maybe that's what he's doing and that's how I'd play it so I just put it there. But it's all the right notes at least.
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 04:11 PM
I'm sold on it, if thats what you mean
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 04:23 PM
What's that mean?
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 04:43 PM
meaning, I think you are an ace tabber, and I will specifically ask you for DuCran approved tabs when I go to learn more CoB songs :thumb:
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 04:46 PM
Haha awesome. I'll definitely be happy to do that. I love tabbing, as long as it's something I want to do though and CoB obviously counts.
unknownsoldier12
10-06-2006, 04:59 PM
dude, just FYI...
Ignore atman and his entourage. It's not worth your breath, or added effort it takes to argue with him, considering you can't win even if you're right.
MRDuCran
10-06-2006, 05:12 PM
Yeah I know. I don't get stressed while replying to him, I just enjoy keeping him going. That Joshisnumber3 fag is an eggo wannabe, he needs to sort it out too.
repcak
10-07-2006, 08:33 AM
i looked at my time-table and i will have only a few lectures ... so i will learn less for the next half year, but will have more time to play guitar :D
hm... lets see... maybe i will manage to play 4-6hours daily
eug008
10-07-2006, 08:41 AM
whoa, I could never play guitar for 6 hours any day. :eek:
Maybe 3 hours if I really get into it but that'd be a rare occasion.
repcak
10-07-2006, 09:11 AM
i meant 4-6 hours, breaks included.
i normally play at least 2hours, but mostly 2/3-4hours daily.
in the last august-week i played 6-8hous daily :D great time ... i made big steps forward!
eug008
10-07-2006, 09:19 AM
I know. That's still quite a fair bit though. I usually play for up to an hour then stop, and then do it again. 90% + of the time I'm just messing around learning random stuff, not doing any certain exercises or anything. I should get into doing exercises etc. sometime.
repcak
10-07-2006, 10:06 AM
first of all i warm up for ~ 15-30min; afterwards i learn/practise songs; if i get bored i practise some techniques, exercises, licks, then go back to learn/practise songs, etc. etc.
and if i am really (!) bored i just play random things, and try to come up with a nice riff or lick i could use for a song (in the future)
blue3
10-07-2006, 10:57 AM
You guys are insane. I don';t play guitar daily anymore.. :(
Apocalyptic Raids
10-07-2006, 11:02 AM
Yeah I actually used my amp for the first time in two weeks today.
repcak
10-07-2006, 11:09 AM
well i have't played guitar since more than two weeks... and it will be longer... :(
metalhead_matt
10-07-2006, 02:04 PM
how do ya think alexi's guitar is EQ'd then, for the tokyo warhearts live album, and same question for the FTR album.
im doing some recordings at college, need to try and match the tone
well i have't played guitar since more than two weeks... and it will be longer... :(
its your wrist isnt it? what did you actually do to it?
AA-12
10-07-2006, 02:28 PM
High mids, high treble, and lows in the middle.
repcak
10-07-2006, 02:28 PM
yeah its my wrist... its getting better but i'm still not able to play guitar.
i try not to move my wrist - that's the only thing i can do.
metalhead_matt
10-07-2006, 02:38 PM
High mids, high treble, and lows in the middle.
kk thanks, il try it out.
yeah its my wrist... its getting better but i'm still not able to play guitar.
i try not to move my wrist - that's the only thing i can do.
ah right fair enough, how long you gotta wait til you can spiel guitar again
Jelle Strikes Back
10-07-2006, 03:42 PM
You guys are insane. I don';t play guitar daily anymore.. :(
I do though. :)
Po0sH
10-07-2006, 03:53 PM
I think his tone was good. Maybe it sounds bad sometimes because he's concentrating on the vocals, not to mention the parts are hard.
The Chaos Ridden Years cd has leaked btw. It's really not that great tbh, even Roope sounds bada lot of the time.
fcking sweeet. im gonna go download it, but i will buy the dvd
EDIT: listening right now. right now im on sixpounder. I overall its pretty cool. The guitar tones sound like they have too much gain or something I donno, it doesnt sound as crisp as TW, o well. This is still pretty kewl, although I would have liked it if the bass drum was a little higher in the mix
MRDuCran
10-07-2006, 05:12 PM
fcking sweeet. im gonna go download it, but i will buy the dvd
EDIT: listening right now. right now im on sixpounder. I overall its pretty cool. The guitar tones sound like they have too much gain or something I donno, it doesnt sound as crisp as TW, o well. This is still pretty kewl, although I would have liked it if the bass drum was a little higher in the mix
Yeah there's something wrong with the tone, it's not as clear, like you said.
I play guitar everyday still, I was playing 16th notes at 180 again today and that was straight away, soon it'll be 220. :p
repcak
10-07-2006, 06:27 PM
ah right fair enough, how long you gotta wait til you can spiel guitar again
i have it since over 2weeks and i will touch the guitar again ... in ... one week earliest.
I play guitar everyday still, I was playing 16th notes at 180 again today and that was straight away, soon it'll be 220. :p
congrats... my fastest was (with metronome) 16th at 120bpm, without metronome about 150-160bpm.
MRDuCran
10-07-2006, 06:43 PM
How can you tell if you're playing 160bpm if you don't have the metronome on? :confused:
repcak
10-07-2006, 06:45 PM
i was playing Inferno faster than on the record but without a metronome ... i have (had?) always the problem to hear every "click", so sometimes i played it without one... therefore i know i am "able" to play that fast, but not able to play it controlled to a metronome.
Shadows Within
10-07-2006, 06:46 PM
How can you tell if you're playing 160bpm if you don't have the metronome on? :confused:
He counted :smash:
MRDuCran
10-07-2006, 06:57 PM
i was playing Inferno faster than on the record but without a metronome ... i have (had?) always the problem to hear every "click", so sometimes i played it without one... therefore i know i am "able" to play that fast, but not able to play it controlled to a metronome.
Hmm, well I'd work on that. I can play stuff without a metronome better than I can with one too but I don't play like that much because I like to feel controlled.
He counted :smash:
Orly? :wave:
repcak
10-07-2006, 06:59 PM
yeah, i know... it wasn't really controlled but it wasn't tremolo-picking too... it was only without a metronome... whatever... right now i can't play guitar anyway... :angry:
MRDuCran
10-07-2006, 07:43 PM
Just find something else that's enjoyable and get into it and time will pass quicker. For me, it'd be computer games or bike riding but both of those involve the wrist alot so I'd be dead.
AA-12
10-07-2006, 07:45 PM
What do you guys play that has constant finger moving riffs? I always get bored playing things because it's like the same chord over and over, etc.
MRDuCran
10-07-2006, 07:50 PM
What do you guys play that has constant finger moving riffs? I always get bored playing things because it's like the same chord over and over, etc.
Chokehold has alot of movement. I can probably only recommend Bodom cause it's the thing that I play if I'm not practising properly.
Or maybe some Decapitated, their riffs are pretty crazy.
Po0sH
10-07-2006, 11:35 PM
Haha just got to downfall. that was awesome they were playing those hair metal riffs like motley crue and stuff.
MRDuCran
10-07-2006, 11:44 PM
Downfall eh? I'll gives it a listen.
Hehe cool, I recognise two of those songs.
omfg Alexi butchered that solo. :upset:
repcak
10-08-2006, 08:48 AM
... once again bad luck with a cob-video.... don't download CoB - knuckleduster! its not bodom :p
its something else :naughty:
MRDuCran
10-08-2006, 01:30 PM
:lol: That's your fault for not knowing that haven't made a video for that song. :p
repcak
10-08-2006, 01:32 PM
or at least i thought it would be a live-video
MRDuCran
10-08-2006, 01:40 PM
Oh right, understandable but I don't think there's a bootleg of that. :(
Check out my tab of Lake Bodom live at Tokyo Warhearts:
http://download.yousendit.com/FEEBBD0376C8D69B
repcak
10-08-2006, 02:43 PM
its nice :thumb:
MRDuCran
10-08-2006, 04:04 PM
Yer. It's actually pretty tough trying to get right up to the 24th fret like that, especially on my rg which has the old style neck joint.
repcak
10-08-2006, 05:10 PM
old style neck joint? so you don't have the best high frets access?
MRDuCran
10-08-2006, 05:26 PM
Nah, I can hardly get to the low strings past the 15th fret.
http://www.jemsite.com/tech/img/neck_surfacecrack2.jpg
I have one of those joints.
repcak
10-08-2006, 05:43 PM
ah ok... low strings... i hardly play on those...
MRDuCran
10-08-2006, 06:45 PM
lol
Well it's the high strings too. As I said, it's hard to play that Lake Bodom lick up on the 24th fret because of the neck. My next guitar will either be a "stage" guitar that looks cool (RR/RV/SV) or another Ibanez with a better access neck.
AA-12
10-08-2006, 06:47 PM
I may get an RR eventually too.
Forlorn Hope
10-08-2006, 10:42 PM
I'm thinking about getting an RG7321, but I haven't played one yet. Has anyone else played one?
repcak
10-09-2006, 05:42 AM
right now my favourites are the RR and the BC Rich Ironbird :D
repcak
10-09-2006, 02:03 PM
my wrist is great today.
after it got better i moved my wrist more often and it got worse again, so i stopped moving it again... i haven't moved my wrist for the whole weekend and now i can angle my wrist in right angle and do the petrucci warm ups, without any pain :D
the bad think that cause i weared the bandage and the special lotion for so long my skin started to itch heavily... i have to stop wearing my bandage :(
but i hope its ok now... on friday i travel home for the weekend and i don't want to touch the guitar this week, but next week :)
MRDuCran
10-09-2006, 03:00 PM
I'm thinking about getting an RG7321, but I haven't played one yet. Has anyone else played one?
I'e never played a 7 but you could look on that good review site, I forgot the name.
MRDuCran
10-09-2006, 05:08 PM
Check out my latest gif, got bored...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3036/alexiblinking3cc0.gif
K, and the intro of Towards Dead End, re-done:
http://download.yousendit.com/5697AF755F8B12DF
repcak
10-09-2006, 05:12 PM
Mitch, slowly i worry about your sexual orientation... are you gay?!
:lol:
MRDuCran
10-09-2006, 05:18 PM
:mad: I didn't make it for my pleasure.
repcak
10-09-2006, 05:36 PM
sorry, it wasn't friendly... i didn't want to insult you :(
/it was only a joke, i like your gif :thumb: -> i even saved it on my HD
MRDuCran
10-09-2006, 05:50 PM
:) I know.
repcak
10-09-2006, 05:54 PM
pfuh... am i glad :) you know i love you mitch :D
btw. you've seen this V-shapee guitar in the guitar forum... it looks like an esp but it isn't - its the bet v-shaped guitar i've seen in my life... its ... yeah, its perfect (for me - imo).
Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
10-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Mitch, slowly i worry about your sexual orientation... are you gay?!
:lol:
Ive asked him that myself
MRDuCran
10-09-2006, 06:21 PM
pfuh... am i glad :) you know i love you mitch :D
btw. you've seen this V-shapee guitar in the guitar forum... it looks like an esp but it isn't - its the bet v-shaped guitar i've seen in my life... its ... yeah, its perfect (for me - imo).
Yeah, it's nice. I think I'd get one if it had a pinstripe though.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 08:33 AM
I purchased my first Bodom CD yesterday (Are You Dead Yet?)
Not too bad I must say, but HCDR and Hatebreeder are better IMO
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 08:54 AM
Why didn't you buy one of those instead then?
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 08:57 AM
I already have them, just never paid for them.
I figured I would wait till I have all their albums, then worry about obtaining a legitimate copy at that time...
Also, the tab for "Are you Dead Yet?" is in the new Guitar World. I was curious and had to have a listen
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 08:58 AM
Ah right fair enough.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 08:59 AM
Hey, I wanted to ask you...
Those sweeps in Silent Night, Bodom Night, those are sextuplets at 120bpm, aren't they?
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 09:36 AM
Certainly are.
The ones in Kissing the Shadows are at 142ish...but then again, he fails at playing them live. :upset: He always seems to play SNBN really well.
repcak
10-10-2006, 09:38 AM
I figured I would wait till I have all their albums, then worry about obtaining a legitimate copy at that time...
thats what i do - if i really like a band and know album xy is good, i pay for it.
btw. you won't believe... I've got it finally
CoB - Live in Nosturi (over 700mb on my harddisk) :D
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 09:43 AM
fukking dammit :lol:
I topped out at 170 (triplets). It seems my picking hand motion breaks down above that speed. This might take some time to do well
repcak
10-10-2006, 09:49 AM
:(
you're all so good at guitar :upset:
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 09:56 AM
nah, I suck, but I practice my arse off so one day, that will not be the case.
I've been logging in about 5 hours a day now. Hopefully I can keep this pace up
ACIDBATH the GOOD
10-10-2006, 10:02 AM
Yeah there's something wrong with the tone, it's not as clear, like you said.
I play guitar everyday still, I was playing 16th notes at 180 again today and that was straight away, soon it'll be 220. :pwhy would you wanna go to 220? i swear you shreddies make retarded goals
repcak
10-10-2006, 10:22 AM
lol
TojesDolan
10-10-2006, 10:25 AM
I need to change my guitar playing from righty to lefty so I can reach faster speeds. :-0
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 10:30 AM
i'm sure you're kidding
TojesDolan
10-10-2006, 10:46 AM
I'm left handed.
I play as if I were righty. I can play a bit faster both strumming (or shredding, blah blah) and tap notes with my right hand more precisely and faster as I should play, lefty than I do currently.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 10:52 AM
you should strive to be ambidextrous, so it shouldn't matter which way you would play.
If you want to switch sides so your strength is in your picking hand, then obviously you would be waiting for your fretting hand to build coordination, and would still be "slowed down" by your less dominate hand
TojesDolan
10-10-2006, 11:01 AM
Exactly that's what stops me. That and the fact that I'm too lazy to switch strings and stuff. :p
Nonetheless I know it'd take me like a good year, maybe two years to get a decent level at playing lefty, but who knows. Maybe I shouldn't try it.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 12:18 PM
just practice 5 finger picking and getting each hand coordinated. If you want to be good at tapping (tappping with more than 1 finger) its a good idea to try to raise the level of coordination in each hand.
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 12:53 PM
im havin trouble sweepin, the notes bleed into each other too much for my likin. tips please?
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 12:58 PM
you need to slow WAY down, and practice proper muting technique with your fretting hand.
Basically, after you pick the note and it sounds, you depress the fret, but leave the finger on the string to get it to stop ringin
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 01:01 PM
ah right got ya. metronome then yeah?
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 01:02 PM
btw would you say i was a regular in this thread? just wondering lol
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 01:04 PM
yes, by all means...
then again, I don't recommend practicing without one.....ever :lol:
sweeping, for me, was all about learning how to mute with my picking hand, and getting a nice, fluid motion from the picking hand. Once you have those down, its all about synching up your hands.
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 01:18 PM
kk. so say i start off with an easy sweep, like:
--15-12-----------12-15-12
---------13----13---------
------------12------------
at about 100bpm
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 01:22 PM
i would start at 1/8th notes in that case
repcak
10-10-2006, 01:23 PM
i would play it that way:
15p12---------12
-------13---13
----------12
(as far as i remember... )
and don't start at 100bpm ... i play this shape for over 6months now and the highest speed i reached was 60bpm
start with 50bpm and six notes each beat
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 01:24 PM
yeah. is this starting to basic or should i just try some 5 string sweeps but really slow
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 01:28 PM
il record myself playin that sweep soon, at 100bpm, and then you can see whether i need to slow down or speed up. i dont practice enough :( i play guitar everyday, but i just write music, or play some bodom stuff. nothing productive, it really stressed me out last night, i was watchin bodom live in tuska 2003, and just watchin how much alexi could own solos and sweeps lol i was like grrr i dont practice, im not gettin anywhere.
repcak
10-10-2006, 01:30 PM
yeah. is this starting to basic or should i just try some 5 string sweeps but really slow
first maste the 3string sweep, then move to 4string sweeps.
i play only 3string sweeps now for 6months and i only play from time to time 4string sweeps - but only the easiest shape of all on 4strings ;)
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 01:35 PM
actually, I wouldn't do the repcak thing and do 50 bpm, sextuplets....eeeek that's too damn confusing...
also repcak 100 bpm, 16th notes is actually slower that 50 bpm, sextuplets, but anyway...
play that at 100, 2 notes per beat. If it doesnt sound perfect, take it down to 80 bpm, or even 70
repcak
10-10-2006, 01:55 PM
slower yes, but 3string sweeps are in general played as triplets or sextuplets... if you play 16th, the beat would be on another string each time... and thats confusing.
i would do it either triplets OR Sextuplets... 16th or 8th notes can be played if you do 4string sweeps.
btw. in the guitar forum you said you alternate pick everything - even if you play three notes per string? and do you start always with an downstroke even if you make chromatics (1234) and do an ascending chromatic run?
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 02:01 PM
no, i don't always start with a downstroke. For the example you gave (3 notes per string)
it would be down, up, down for the first string
then up, down, up for the second string
down up down for the third, etc
as far as practicing those sweeps are concerned, it really makes no difference. Think about it, its 6 notes. Its divisable by 3, and also 2, which means if you did it as 1/8th notes, it would be 3 beats, which is hardly a problem
The trick, or goal, is to slowly become comfortable with the technique, and slowly increase the tempo as your proficiency increases, there fore it wouldn't matter if he practice them as 1/4 notes, as long as he is maintaining proper technique and working on perfection
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 02:03 PM
yeha 3 string sweeps are easier as triplets i would have thought. so 12 notes a bar then, at 100bpm
repcak that was aimed at unknown solider wasnt it?
i just said hoorah in that thread lol
EDIT: k, gotcha unknownsoldier
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 02:04 PM
I need to change my guitar playing from righty to lefty so I can reach faster speeds. :-0
I'm left handed and I played right handed, my speed is just fine.
slower yes, but 3string sweeps are in general played as triplets or sextuplets... if you play 16th, the beat would be on another string each time... and thats confusing.
i would do it either triplets OR Sextuplets... 16th or 8th notes can be played if you do 4string sweeps.
I agree. I always play 3/5 string sweeps as 3's or 6's.
On a side note, I bought myself some DR strings, 11-50 :D:D
And they taste great. :p
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 02:04 PM
if you want to get technical...
1/8th notes at 100 are easier than triplets at 100, but again, the tempo of the metronome is not the issue here
DuCran : DRs are the only shizz I buy now :chug:
repcak
10-10-2006, 02:05 PM
The trick, or goal, is to slowly become comfortable with the technique, and slowly increase the tempo as your proficiency increases, there fore it wouldn't matter if he practice them as 1/4 notes, as long as he is maintaining proper technique and working on perfection
quoted for truth!!!
as far as practicing those sweeps are concerned, it really makes no difference. Think about it, its 6 notes. Its divisable by 3, and also 2, which means if you did it as 1/8th notes, it would be 3 beats, which is hardly a problem
ah, yes.. sorry. you meant 2notes per beat... i thought you meant 4notes per beat -> this would be a problem.
no, i don't always start with a downstroke. For the example you gave (3 notes per string)
it would be down, up, down for the first string
then up, down, up for the second string
down up down for the third, etc
:eek:
i do it:
d,u,d - 1st string
d,u,d - 2nd string, etc.
upwards:
d,u,d,u,d,u - high e string
u,d,u - b string, etc.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 02:07 PM
thats economy picking repcak. There's nothing inherently wrong with doing things that way, but i find that my timing is more uniform, and it seems to confuse my picking hand less
repcak
10-10-2006, 02:08 PM
repcak that was aimed at unknown solider wasnt it?
i just said hoorah in that thread lol
general discussion about sweeps... you and kurrpt
I agree. I always play 3/5 string sweeps as 3's or 6's.
and i learnt this from you :)
On a side note, I bought myself some DR strings, 11-50 :D:D
And they taste great.
wow... they are ... thick
i still play on 9-42/46, but i should try out DR stings next time... i heard too many good opinions about them :D
edit_
thats economy picking repcak. There's nothing inherently wrong with doing things that way, but i find that my timing is more uniform, and it seems to confuse my picking hand less
every guitarist plays differently ...
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 02:11 PM
yea, you gotta go with what works for you, no question about that
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 02:13 PM
I advise Metalhead_Matt to try the sweep at this speed for starters:
http://download.yousendit.com/2B09CCE600EDB19D
It's actually slower than I started at but I've never had a problem with getting the left hand muting down.
repcak
10-10-2006, 02:13 PM
hey, mitch, i had an idea yesterday while i was falling asleep... what do you think if we do a song together? maybe a cob song? i play the rhythm parts (which i should be able to play :p ) and you will record the lead-parts?!
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 02:20 PM
lol at mitchs 'taste good' post. ive got that video on my myspace. im checkin out that tab now
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 02:22 PM
il work with that tab, thanks
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 02:28 PM
hey, mitch, i had an idea yesterday while i was falling asleep... what do you think if we do a song together? maybe a cob song? i play the rhythm parts (which i should be able to play :p ) and you will record the lead-parts?!
Hmm, sounds like a brilliant idea but I'm not sure if I'd be able to play one of the solos PERFECTLY. You know how much of a perfectionist I am. :upset:
lol at mitchs 'taste good' post. ive got that video on my myspace. im checkin out that tab now
il work with that tab, thanks
:D I actually went into the shop and said:
"Do you have any D Addario strings, 10-50?"
After he said no and I came back, I asked:
"Oh wait, it's not 10-50, it's D Addario 11-50, you got those?"
After he said no again, he directed me to 11-50 DR's.
Then it ****ing hit me that those were the ones I wanted from the start. wtf :lol:
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 02:38 PM
lol excellent. ive been meaning to try out those strings, gonna have to get some ernie ball 11 - 50's instead, coz i dont think they sell DR's round here :S
repcak
10-10-2006, 02:38 PM
lol
we don't need to play the whole song, solo included - it would be ok if we skip the solo ;)
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 02:41 PM
lol
we don't need to play the whole song, solo included - it would be ok if we skip the solo ;)
Well what song do you have in mind?
When I bought the strings, the guy told me the people that make them have stopped supplying them to the shop that I go to so there's only like 4 packs left. After that, I'll have to get them elsewhere or just use Ernie Balls again. I might not even like the thickness of them yet.
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 02:47 PM
yeah i was quite surprised when alexi said he used them, especially seeing as hes a lead guitarist. let me know what there like :) wanna try em myself but restringing floatin trem guitars is frustrating, i like to do it as little as possible lol
repcak
10-10-2006, 02:48 PM
no, i don't have a song in mind... first of all i have to play guitar again... so we have time to decide on one - a song both of us are able to play.... and not tooooo fast ;) the max. speed i've reached is about 120-140/150, so it shouldn't be faster.
any suggestions?
btw. is alexi using 11-50?
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 02:53 PM
im runnning 10s at the moment.
I swear by DR strings myself. I refuse to by anything else now
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 02:53 PM
no, i don't have a song in mind... first of all i have to play guitar again... so we have time to decide on one - a song both of us are able to play.... and not tooooo fast ;) the max. speed i've reached is about 120-140/150, so it shouldn't be faster.
any suggestions?
btw. is alexi using 11-50?
Yes, Alexi uses 11-50, haven't you seen the video. :p
Well there aren't many songs that are under 190bpm...off the top of my head:
Red Light in my Eyes pt.1
Bed of Razors
Bodom After Midnight
Children of Decadence
Kissing the Shadows
Sixpounder
Angels Don't Kill
Triple Corpse Hammerblow
Living Dead Beat
In Your Face
repcak
10-10-2006, 02:57 PM
no i haven't seen the video :(
this is a nice list... i would prefer something from their older albums, so not In your face and livind dead beat.... but how i said... first of all my wrist should be healed and afterwards i will need some weeks to get where i was before :(
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 02:59 PM
wussy talk ITT
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 03:04 PM
no i haven't seen the video :(
this is a nice list... i would prefer something from their older albums, so not In your face and livind dead beat.... but how i said... first of all my wrist should be healed and afterwards i will need some weeks to get where i was before :(
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LpqSsddLzYc
IYF and LDB rule, btw.
But yeah, not many of their songs are at those kind of tempos so you'll just have to listen to them all and decide yourself. Maybe Downfall? It's at 190 but it's strumming octaves in 8th notes.
You'd need to post a sample first before we did it properly though.
repcak
10-10-2006, 03:09 PM
yeah, ok... i will watch the tabs and will look if i would be able to play it and then i will make a list, k?
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 03:12 PM
Sounds good to me. I might have to borrow that amp I used for Bodom After Midnight because this Korg thing sucks for rhythm tones.
repcak
10-10-2006, 03:16 PM
^^
but don't expect anything started in the near future... so maybe earliest in one week, propably in 2weeks i'll be ready.
my wrist seems ok now, but today my sinews hurt a little bit...
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 03:26 PM
2 weeks!! Man, I wanna rip, now!!!
At least it gives me a chance to prepare. Mayb I'll be able to play something that's at least close to one of Alexi's solos.
It's a shame Kurrpt can't record, we could have got him to record the guitars for Bed of teh Raz0rs.
repcak
10-10-2006, 03:30 PM
i don't give a fukk motherfukker!! :lol:
yeah ok... right now i watch the nosturi-video afterwards i will check out the tabs and maybe i will make a list... it will be hard to say if i would be able to play something without trying out, but i know approxametly what i am "able" to play and what not.
yeah, but if kurrpt would be able to record i won't be able to join the game
kurrpt & Mitch > me
edit: and i forgot what i wanted to ask... ^^
to the topic about strings... is it much harder to play on 11-50s? what is the difference while playing? more pressure?
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 03:44 PM
yea, it's kind of a mixed bag with the recording. I'm not happy with my playing enough to want to record regularly, but it would be nice for things of this nature.
Like I said before, if I were serious enough about recording something, I could talk to the guy that works 3 desks over, who apparently has a home recording studio.
I really want to get these SNBM sweeps perfect before that point. It seems kinda dumb to plan something, only to record 4 minutes, at the most 3-5 takes, or 20 minutes.
If anything, I should have like 3 songs worth to record before I go and bug him, ya know
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 03:44 PM
everytime i die is a winner. if u can get the intro soundin good
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 03:46 PM
yea, it's kind of a mixed bag with the recording. I'm not happy with my playing enough to want to record regularly, but it would be nice for things of this nature.
Like I said before, if I were serious enough about recording something, I could talk to the guy that works 3 desks over, who apparently has a home recording studio.
I really want to get these SNBM sweeps perfect before that point. It seems kinda dumb to plan something, only to record 4 minutes, at the most 3-5 takes, or 20 minutes.
If anything, I should have like 3 songs worth to record before I go and bug him, ya know
they the sweeps in the interlude?
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 03:49 PM
precisely...
I'm also working on getting the rhythm parts to "Bodom Beach Terror" up to speed.
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 03:59 PM
i don't give a fukk motherfukker!!
yeah ok... right now i watch the nosturi-video afterwards i will check out the tabs and maybe i will make a list... it will be hard to say if i would be able to play something without trying out, but i know approxametly what i am "able" to play and what not.
yeah, but if kurrpt would be able to record i won't be able to join the game
kurrpt & Mitch > me
edit: and i forgot what i wanted to ask... ^^
to the topic about strings... is it much harder to play on 11-50s? what is the difference while playing? more pressure?
Well the thing is, the strings will be thicker (obviously) but the tuning will be lower so the thicker strings kinda make up for the tension loss when you tune down a whole step. I'll let you know when I stick em on if it makes alot of difference.
yea, it's kind of a mixed bag with the recording. I'm not happy with my playing enough to want to record regularly, but it would be nice for things of this nature.
Like I said before, if I were serious enough about recording something, I could talk to the guy that works 3 desks over, who apparently has a home recording studio.
I really want to get these SNBM sweeps perfect before that point. It seems kinda dumb to plan something, only to record 4 minutes, at the most 3-5 takes, or 20 minutes.
If anything, I should have like 3 songs worth to record before I go and bug him, ya know
That makes sense, definately. But if you could just record even with crapy quality, you'll realise what you actually sound like. I mean, sometimes I think I sound amazing when I record something. As soon as I listen back, I can hear myself using crappy vibrato, being out of time, out of tune bends etc. It really straightens out your playing, even if you think you can play something well.
everytime i die is a winner. if u can get the intro soundin good
Indeedy. I can play that intro, and the rest of the song is a piece of cake except the solo.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:01 PM
I know what you mean about recording yourself to get that outsider's perspective, but I've adopted that a long time ago, hence the fact I'm not trying to "rush" into getting my technique up to speed.
Bends is something I need to work on. I get lazy sometimes and don't always focus on hitting a desired pitch
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 04:03 PM
Indeedy. I can play that intro, and the rest of the song is a piece of cake except the solo.
all the tabs for that solo are completely wrong. its actually a complex solo aint it
repcak
10-10-2006, 04:10 PM
from all the songs from your list, i think "Bed of Razors" would be the best choice for me (rhythm part)
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:11 PM
Bed of Razors rhythm is very simple
repcak
10-10-2006, 04:15 PM
ok... and "Everytime i Die".
... we can record both songs...
Bed of Razors rhythm is very simple
didn't you once say that you had problems with the rhythm?!
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
ok... and "Everytime i Die".
... we can record both songs...
didn't you once say that you had problems with the rhythm?!
not for that song...
I know I had to work on the rhythm parts, but those were easy to get right. It was the solo (part of it) and the 5 string sweeps w/tap that took me the most amount of time
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
Bed of Razors: there's not a tap, btw.
all the tabs for that solo are completely wrong. its actually a complex solo aint it
Yerp.
This is how he plays it.
http://download.yousendit.com/E3B112B4486EBB66
metalhead_matt
10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
u gonna use midi keyboards for this recording, or someone gonna do it?
im off guys, ciao
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:23 PM
well, then wouldn't he have to slide on the high E :confused:
repcak : As far as that rhythm section is concerned, I was having a problem with the chugging chord section. In the one tab they had you chug the open D string 3 times, it was the chord chug chord part that was giving problems with the second beat.
I just ommitted the chug part, so it would go "chug chug chug Deh Dah chug chug chug dah deh"
instead of "chug chug deh chug dah chug chug chug dah chug deh"
Hopefully that made sense to someone else besides me
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 04:23 PM
Not sure about keys, might as well use MIDI. It's not going to be a full blown cover, just a bit of the song for fun, I thinks.
well, then wouldn't he have to slide on the high E
Yepperz.
http://download.yousendit.com/01C71853312D7A9D
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:29 PM
yea, I practised it boths (with tap and with slide)
I found the slide harder, so i practice it that way more often
did you understand that chug chug chug business? :lol:
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 04:34 PM
Nope. :lol:
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:36 PM
yea, i didn't think so...
I could have referenced tabs, but thats not exactly my style. I think if Repcak starts working on the rhythm track, he'll have an idea of what I'm talking about.
I ommited a open D string pluck because I felt I could phrase the chords better, so it seemed like a necessary evil
repcak
10-10-2006, 04:38 PM
i'm not sure, but i think i know what you could have meant ;)
btw. Mitch, upload the tabs of EID and BoR so that i will know which tab version i should learn...
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 04:39 PM
I think I understand what you did. I'm playing through it now and I'm pretty rusty on it. And so are these strings....!!
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:40 PM
Zing Mitch :lol:
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 04:56 PM
I was thinking about recording the Hatebreeder solos with Repcak. The rhythm is pathetically easy and the solos are managable, I guess. I'll work on it.
unknownsoldier12
10-10-2006, 04:59 PM
well, maybe you could count me in on that in a couple of days...
I'm working on Bodom Beach and those SNBM sweeps. I wouldn't mind tackleing some sections of that track
repcak
10-10-2006, 05:00 PM
I was thinking about recording the Hatebreeder solos with Repcak. The rhythm is pathetically easy and the solos are managable, I guess. I'll work on it.
sure, why not... i'm open for all suggestions :D
MRDuCran
10-10-2006, 05:08 PM
well, maybe you could count me in on that in a couple of days...
I'm working on Bodom Beach and those SNBM sweeps. I wouldn't mind tackleing some sections of that track
Be my guest, I know I can't do the SNBN interlude section full speed yet.
sure, why not... i'm open for all suggestions
Cool. That's if I can actually play them...which is doubtful.
ghettoeddo
10-10-2006, 10:21 PM
well, maybe you could count me in on that in a couple of days...
I'm working on Bodom Beach and those SNBM sweeps. I wouldn't mind tackleing some sections of that track
bodom beach terror = the secks.
Forlorn Hope
10-10-2006, 10:28 PM
Not sure about keys, might as well use MIDI. It's not going to be a full blown cover, just a bit of the song for fun, I thinks.
Yepperz.
http://download.yousendit.com/01C71853312D7A9D
If you want I can do the keys with Fruity Loops so it will sound a bunch better. That is, if I can find time and if I can figure it out. Unless you happen to have all the parts on Guitar Pro with the guitars or something.
Shadows Within
10-10-2006, 10:46 PM
Not sure about keys, might as well use MIDI. It's not going to be a full blown cover, just a bit of the song for fun, I thinks.
*AHEM* KEYBOARDIST *AHEM*
EDIT: wait what song are we doing?
metalhead_matt
10-11-2006, 04:12 AM
the first hatebreeder solo is simple, fun to play aswell lol. i havent tried the second one, the other guitarist in my band plays it.
repcak
10-11-2006, 04:40 AM
hey great... we have a keyboarder :D
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 08:05 AM
hey great... we have a keyboarder :D
Not very good yet though
MRDuCran
10-11-2006, 08:14 AM
*AHEM* KEYBOARDIST *AHEM*
EDIT: wait what song are we doing?
We don't really know. Repcak says he wants to play rhythm guitar so he's going to go through a list I made of songs at a certain tempo and he'll list the ones he'll be able to play, then it'll go from there. But Everytime I Die would easily be our best bet.
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 08:16 AM
I can play Downfall, Silent Night, Bodom Night and can learn the rest of Lil Bloodred Ridin Hood or Everytime I Die.
Solos will be a problem cause im really not very good at those yet, atleast in ETID's case or any of there other solos. but i can play DF SNBN and LBRR pretty well.
MRDuCran
10-11-2006, 08:40 AM
The Downfall and SNBN parts are extremely hard, I'd be interested to hear those.
unknownsoldier12
10-11-2006, 08:45 AM
agreed
lets hear some key solos
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 08:48 AM
The Downfall and SNBN parts are extremely hard, I'd be interested to hear those.
not as hard as some of there other stuff...
Ok I'll try out SNBN solo although don't quote me on the acuracy i can't find a good tab.
how do i get backround music for the solo, I don't have anything to record with unless i used cool edit pro, and you can't get backing music on there.
MRDuCran
10-11-2006, 09:08 AM
Use the one I wrote out, the arpeggio parts are correct for sure now.
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 09:13 AM
yeah but is there any way to get a backing track onto a recording program cause its gonna sound kinda ghey without everything else.
EDIT: Nvm michael Angelo Batio look-alike is gonna send me the guitar.
only problem is last time he tried to send me the stuff it dodn't wrk so we'll see. and he said that his solo ****ed out mid-solo so it came out crappy, if its too crappy ill just record the keys.
MRDuCran
10-11-2006, 09:19 AM
Is midi ok?
unknownsoldier12
10-11-2006, 09:21 AM
I just use click tracks personally, but I do think it's more fun with a proper backing track
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 09:22 AM
Is midi ok?
see I have no idea how to use midi, nor do i probally have the nesccary equipment i think.
unknownsoldier12
10-11-2006, 09:24 AM
how do you propose we hook you up with a backing track then :confused:
MRDuCran
10-11-2006, 09:25 AM
see I have no idea how to use midi, nor do i probally have the nesccary equipment i think.
.wave file, then?
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 09:27 AM
I guess...lol this is way over my head, I have no Idea how midi even works.
Or even what it is for that matter...
MRDuCran
10-11-2006, 09:27 AM
mp3?
unknownsoldier12
10-11-2006, 09:28 AM
just use a metronome and screw the backing track. Its superfluous, and we just want to hear some keys :D
Shadows Within
10-11-2006, 09:35 AM
Batio is sending me his parts he said there bad and he's gonna record them today but if they aren't that bad then ill just use that cause I have no idea how to work this damn metronome on Cool Edit Pro.
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