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I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:19 PM
Oh I'm so sorry, I forgot that everyone is supposed to spell like an American :rolleyes:

**** off and die.


lawl. I know you have plenty of great white sharks out on the coast. please make good use, jump in and feed yourself to em.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 09:19 PM
Wow, there's some hate in this thread.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:19 PM
Wow, there's some hate in this thread.


Not towards you.

<3 Mitch

IheartSP
05-24-2006, 09:23 PM
For anyone who is still interested after many months of not mentioning it...

I have a 90% completed demo of one of my bands songs. It's called Ragnarok, and Ultima is the band name for those who are new around here...

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=3485D946542BC512

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 09:23 PM
havent seen you in a while :p i still have those tabs

AA-12
05-24-2006, 09:24 PM
I listened to that song. It's pretty good.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:26 PM
'twas good

IheartSP
05-24-2006, 09:30 PM
Any criticisms?

Jacaranda
05-24-2006, 09:31 PM
You guys know where I can find any bass CoB tabs?
I'm trying to learn some songs but the bass isn't even in any songs so... its kind of hard to do it by ear.

Accurate too.
Or maybe just a CoB song with decent audible bass.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:31 PM
Any criticisms?


Your asking for them. :rolleyes:

IheartSP
05-24-2006, 09:33 PM
Your asking for them. :rolleyes:
yeah

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:48 PM
You guys know where I can find any bass CoB tabs?
I'm trying to learn some songs but the bass isn't even in any songs so... its kind of hard to do it by ear.

Accurate too.
Or maybe just a CoB song with decent audible bass.


Warheart. I'll look hold on.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 09:48 PM
You guys know where I can find any bass CoB tabs?
I'm trying to learn some songs but the bass isn't even in any songs so... its kind of hard to do it by ear.

Accurate too.
Or maybe just a CoB song with decent audible bass.
ultimate-guitar or metaltabs

Better speakers.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:53 PM
http://metaltabs.com/tab/1971/

^ Kissing The Shadows

http://metaltabs.com/tab/6074/
^Hate Me

http://metaltabs.com/tab/3928/ silent night bodom night

Try those. 4 stars or higher they were.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 10:19 PM
Anyone know what sound Janne's using on the solo to Downfall i can't seem ti find it.

Jacaranda
05-24-2006, 10:22 PM
Gracias.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:29 PM
Anyone know what sound Janne's using on the solo to Downfall i can't seem ti find it.

"Square" or "Sawtooth" on Guitar Pro are the closest you'll get, try match that.

Also, try match his playing too. :smash:

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 10:45 PM
lol yeah right...but im trying, if i had a pitch bender i could probally do the solo. i just with i clould lear the keyboard by tab or notation but i have to watch the virtual thing.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Why would a pitch bender make the 16ths at 190bpm any easier?

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 11:14 PM
Why would a pitch bender make the 16ths at 190bpm any easier?


16ths @ 190. Ouch.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:18 PM
Haven't you heard that solo?

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 11:41 PM
Haven't you heard that solo?


Yes, many many times.


16th notes, That's 8 per beat? amirite?

32nd notes, how many per beat, I've forgotten.

Moses
05-24-2006, 11:42 PM
I can't find any sheet music for CoB keyboard.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:45 PM
Yes, many many times.


16th notes, That's 8 per beat? amirite?

32nd notes, how many per beat, I've forgotten.

16th notes = 4 notes per beat.
32nd notes = 8 notes per beat.

I can't find any sheet music for CoB keyboard.

Guitar Pro or Powertab has a standard notation stave above the guitar tablature.

After hearing that blues thing, I reckon you should give one a shot.

Moses
05-24-2006, 11:47 PM
Could anyone upload it for me?

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:48 PM
What? Guitar Pro, Powertab, or Downfall?

Moses
05-24-2006, 11:49 PM
Guitar Pro I guess. It'd be easier to get those solos down with some music to look at.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:50 PM
Of course, It'll be coming your way very soon.

Moses
05-24-2006, 11:51 PM
Cool. Thanks.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 11:52 PM
16th notes = 4 notes per beat.
32nd notes = 8 notes per beat.




Ohh. Okay. That makes much more sense.

I remember in Rock Discipline, Pertucci was doing 32nd notes at (I forget) pretty fast. I think 185 bpm or something. haha.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:57 PM
Ohh. Okay. That makes much more sense.

I remember in Rock Discipline, Pertucci was doing 32nd notes at (I forget) pretty fast. I think 185 bpm or something. haha.

Nah man, I think it was more like 16ths at 220, the chromatics thing.

Or 16th note triplets/sextuplets at 132bpm.

32nds at 185 is the equivalent of 16ths at 370bpm.

Which is this fast:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=AF03644C2136667A

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 12:00 AM
Moses - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C175C376486F9879

I'm Charming
05-25-2006, 12:20 AM
Nah man, I think it was more like 16ths at 220, the chromatics thing.

Or 16th note triplets/sextuplets at 132bpm.

32nds at 185 is the equivalent of 16ths at 370bpm.

Which is this fast:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=AF03644C2136667A



good god,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,:confused: :confused: :confused:

innocent criminal
05-25-2006, 12:25 AM
this band is sub par just as their musical talent is sub par and any teenage death metal band can reproduce this with ease and easily be better at it!.... the lead singer simply cannot sing....his screams are very boring! have no idea how you can listen to this the whole way through an album!


and before you go about criticising me for being against death metal etc you should know that my fav band is opeth......ahh a band with true musical talent as they float between pure beauty to pure rage so perfectly...not to mention mikael's growls!!!!!! now thats a musical talent....

had to edit it alittle bit...dont want to be too harsh......they are still no comparison to opeth

I'm Charming
05-25-2006, 12:26 AM
this band is absolutely pathetic... their musical talent is sub par and the lead singer simply cannot sing....he's screams are pathetic! have no idea how you people can listen to this!


and before you go about criticising me for being against death metal etc you should know that my fav band is opeth......ahh a band with true musical talent as they float between pure beauty to pure rage so perfectly...not to mention mikael's growls!!!!!! now thats a musical talent....


Have you only heard are you dead yet?

blue3
05-25-2006, 12:29 AM
That username reminded me of Silverchair.

Nepenthe
05-25-2006, 12:30 AM
this band is absolutely pathetic... their musical talent is sub par and any teenage death metal band can reproduce this with ease and easily be better at it!.... the lead singer simply cannot sing....his screams are pathetic! have no idea how you can listen to this!


and before you go about criticising me for being against death metal etc you should know that my fav band is opeth......ahh a band with true musical talent as they float between pure beauty to pure rage so perfectly...not to mention mikael's growls!!!!!! now thats a musical talent....

Why do I get the sneaking feeling that in about 6 months, your opinion will be the complete opposite of what it is now?

innocent criminal
05-25-2006, 12:30 AM
Have you only heard are you dead yet?
that....trashed and lost and strung out

innocent criminal
05-25-2006, 12:32 AM
Why do I get the sneaking feeling that in about 6 months, your opinion will be the complete opposite of what it is now?
have no idea....haha.... but yes i am going out to buy "follow the reaper" tomorrow seeing it is supposed to be their best! so you never know it may change in a day! doubtful

Moses
05-25-2006, 12:38 AM
Moses - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C175C376486F9879
Thanks dudebro.

Nepenthe
05-25-2006, 01:02 AM
have no idea....haha.... but yes i am going out to buy "follow the reaper" tomorrow seeing it is supposed to be their best! so you never know it may change in a day! doubtful

Try the Inearthed demos. That's their greatest stuff imo.

And actually I was referring to how everyone starts off claiming all 'death metal' (just a tip, CoB is NOT death metal) sound the same, and they are talentless and whatnot. After about 4 or 5 months though, that usually changes.

Moses
05-25-2006, 01:27 AM
I'm learning Kissing the Shadows now. Still, if anyone wants to do that cover, I'm willing.

I just got a new keyboard too.

I'm also learning this section of The Glass Prison by DT. That verse arpeggio thing.

Battle Against Time
05-25-2006, 02:19 AM
I'm learning Kissing the Shadows now. Still, if anyone wants to do that cover, I'm willing.

I just got a new keyboard too.

I'm also learning this section of The Glass Prison by DT. That verse arpeggio thing.


Are you learning the guitar part or just keys?

Anyways. Universal Mind is MUCH easier than I thought.

The main riff isn't hard. The intro is rather tricky. I can play it almost up to speed but it sounds REALLY sloppy. So I started really slow. Which is where I'm at on it. Just going to slowly work the speed up with what sounds crisp and clear.

innocent criminal
05-25-2006, 02:28 AM
Try the Inearthed demos. That's their greatest stuff imo.

And actually I was referring to how everyone starts off claiming all 'death metal' (just a tip, CoB is NOT death metal) sound the same, and they are talentless and whatnot. After about 4 or 5 months though, that usually changes.
ahhhh ok.....makes sense

Battle Against Time
05-25-2006, 02:34 AM
ahhhh ok.....makes sense


Here are the album rankings, according to me.

1. Follow The Reaper
2. Hatebreeder
3. Something Wild
4. Tokyo Warhearts (live)
5. Hatecrew Death roll

and then you have AYDY. :p

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 05:36 AM
Bodom aren't Death Metal, Opeth aren't Death Metal. Bodom is Extreme Power Metal in their first 3 albums, and I guess Melodic Groove in their next 2? I don't know the genre for AYDY and HCDR is extremely hard to figure out. And Opeth are Extreme Progressive Metal. Neither one has a huge Death Metal influence.

And no, not any teenage band can write like Bodom. They are highly influenced by Bach and Mozart and have some stuff that is composed far beyond the skill of many people. I'd like to see you try and write something like Hatebreeder. Don't judge them off their new stuff it is almost like a different band.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 06:57 AM
Bodom aren't Death Metal, Opeth aren't Death Metal. Bodom is Extreme Power Metal in their first 3 albums, and I guess Melodic Groove in their next 2? I don't know the genre for AYDY and HCDR is extremely hard to figure out. And Opeth are Extreme Progressive Metal. Neither one has a huge Death Metal influence.

Whatchoo talkin' bout, Julian? Opeth has tons of Death Metal influence!

Bodom, on the other hand, does not. Just harsh vocals.

And I wouldn't call Bodom's more recent material 'Melodic Groove', more along the lines of Post-Thrash. Or Horsecrap. Either works just fine.

And no, not any teenage band can write like Bodom. They are highly influenced by Bach and Mozart and have some stuff that is composed far beyond the skill of many people. I'd like to see you try and write something like Hatebreeder. Don't judge them off their new stuff it is almost like a different band.

Very, very true.

repcak
05-25-2006, 07:14 AM
I doubt it. He's still on some. He's never on 24/7 like some of us are. cough me cough.
i am 24/7 but i go to bed when you start posting... another place, another time.

Charming?

You are a ****ing asshole. I hate you, I always have, and you are the most immature person who is in college. Someone your age should know better, since it is sick and twisted. Racial jokes are not allowed in R&M, and neither are triple posts. So please do us a favor and shut up, or leave.
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Kurrpt
05-25-2006, 07:48 AM
Oh that programming. The most advanced stuff I know is:

size = 5 [b ] [/b ] etc lawl.

I think with your constant talk about maintaining accuracy, and aiming for that during practise as opposed to speed would make you a great teacher. I'd also do that too but you seem to know how to explain it much better. My words would just be the same old crap that everyone on message boards say. Start slow, keep it clean, get faster etc, I'd prefer to demonstrate.

But yeah, if you get the chance, you should definately try it at least.


i always thought i was pretty good with words. Explaining something that begins as a thought, and is executed by the muscles is very complex. The main problem I have with current DVD teachings/instructionals is that they rarely provide any insight as to WHAT exactly is happening. Since I'm 100% self-taught at this point, its fairly easy for me to recall my days at the beginning, and explain what I've done to over come these problems. I'm quite the technique whore.

Super Nintendo
05-25-2006, 08:32 AM
this may sound dumb but i don't know what means the lyrics of sixpounder
does someone here knows?

Apocalyptic Raids
05-25-2006, 08:43 AM
Nothing meaningful.

AA-12
05-25-2006, 12:26 PM
this band is sub par just as their musical talent is sub par and any teenage death metal band can reproduce this with ease and easily be better at it!.... the lead singer simply cannot sing....his screams are very boring! have no idea how you can listen to this the whole way through an album!


and before you go about criticising me for being against death metal etc you should know that my fav band is opeth......ahh a band with true musical talent as they float between pure beauty to pure rage so perfectly...not to mention mikael's growls!!!!!! now thats a musical talent....

had to edit it alittle bit...dont want to be too harsh......they are still no comparison to opeth
I like you, heh.

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 02:45 PM
Blah blah blah

You need to sort it out. I don't have a problem with you not liking Children of Bodom, but coming in here just to say they you don't like them and that Opeth are better, that's pointless and I do have a problem with that. For your information, this band have plenty of music talent, and I hate Opeth because they're boring, goodbye.

Opeth thread, go there instead (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211496&highlight=opeth)

I'm learning Kissing the Shadows now. Still, if anyone wants to do that cover, I'm willing.

I just got a new keyboard too.

I'm also learning this section of The Glass Prison by DT. That verse arpeggio thing.

That'd be awesome if you could record them both after. Now you have GP, you can download the tabs and use them as backing tracks by muting (M) the keyboard parts.

i always thought i was pretty good with words. Explaining something that begins as a thought, and is executed by the muscles is very complex. The main problem I have with current DVD teachings/instructionals is that they rarely provide any insight as to WHAT exactly is happening. Since I'm 100% self-taught at this point, its fairly easy for me to recall my days at the beginning, and explain what I've done to over come these problems. I'm quite the technique whore.

I know what you mean about not really teaching whats happening, it's all about how fast they can play a certain lick in Amin. Being self-taught as well, I can see where you're coming from and again, you'd make a great teacher.

this may sound dumb but i don't know what means the lyrics of sixpounder
does someone here knows?

Apparantly, they're about six pounder cannons.

http://image06.webshots.com/6/5/12/17/81951217sqjAVM_ph.jpg

Moses
05-25-2006, 03:14 PM
Are you learning the guitar part or just keys?
I'm learning the key part that starts around 3:40-3:50 for the Glass Prison and I'm learning all the keys for Kissing the Shadows.

Kurrpt
05-25-2006, 03:19 PM
damn you rule mitch :thumb:



i had a semi-major breaking through with my picking hand. Ill give you a major update next week. Surprisingly, it came while i was doing the sweeping + tap solos in bed of razors. I was giddy for the rest of the night :lol:


lame, i know

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 04:00 PM
Tap solos in Bed of Razors? You mean you were improvising over it?

Shadows
05-25-2006, 04:02 PM
I've seen many ways to play that solo, one of which involves sweeping and tapping.

Kurrpt
05-25-2006, 04:04 PM
Tap solos in Bed of Razors? You mean you were improvising over it?


nah nah


its a basic 5 string sweep up to the 15 fret, high e, then to the 19th fret. I COULD stretch it, if i were to use my middle finger on the 15th, index on the 12th, and pinky on the 19th, but i saw a video of a guy tapping the 19th, and i was like "DUH"


...........................T

------------12-15-19-15-12-------------
---------13-----------------13----------
------12-----------------------12-------
---14-----------------------------14----
15-----------------------------------15-
-----------------------------------------

Shadows
05-25-2006, 04:06 PM
I tried stretching the first time I ever saw that. My hand has been paralyzed for months. :(

Kurrpt
05-25-2006, 04:10 PM
the common thing with TRYING to stretch beyond your reach is you try way to hard, the tension builds to massive proportions, and you cant make it.


Obviously, when you someone who can stretch, you think "man, that fukker has huge hands" in reality, my fingers are small as hell, and i play on a 27" baritone.


what you need to do is stay relaxed, and try to push the boundaries. What i do is try to work out, in my head/brain what my limitations are. I try to find that outer most reach where i can stretch, yet remain comfortable. At that point, you try to push the boundary a little at a time, hold, while remaining calm.

my stretches have started to get ridiculous with this baritone. I recommend it to ANYONE whos a technique whore like me.

for that example, i actually found myself being able to hit the 19th with accuracy, until i remembered that video. Normally i would tap the 20th on a normal sweep exercise, and i felt sheepish for even attempting to make the stretch :lol:

repcak
05-25-2006, 04:21 PM
can someone upload the GP tab for "War Within"? i don't have it and mysongbook.com is down

Shadows
05-25-2006, 04:23 PM
You mean "Wrath Within"?

repcak
05-25-2006, 04:39 PM
ups... yes: "Wrath Within"

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 05:03 PM
nah nah


its a basic 5 string sweep up to the 15 fret, high e, then to the 19th fret. I COULD stretch it, if i were to use my middle finger on the 15th, index on the 12th, and pinky on the 19th, but i saw a video of a guy tapping the 19th, and i was like "DUH"


...........................T

------------12-15-19-15-12-------------
---------13-----------------13----------
------12-----------------------12-------
---14-----------------------------14----
15-----------------------------------15-
-----------------------------------------

That's the wrong arpeggio. It ascends as Cmaj, and descends as Emin.
You can see the way I play it in the powertab I did.

Wrath Within (http://tabs.exz.nu/tabs/Children%20of%20Bodom%20-%20Wrath%20Within.gtp)

repcak
05-25-2006, 05:23 PM
thank you mitch :thumb:

Shadows
05-25-2006, 07:10 PM
I have to ask you guys a question and I need you to be perfectly honest.

AA-12
05-25-2006, 07:13 PM
Yes?

Shadows
05-25-2006, 07:17 PM
Are you guys conspiring to kill me?

AA-12
05-25-2006, 07:22 PM
>_>

<_<

Shadows
05-25-2006, 07:25 PM
Go boink thyselves!

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 07:27 PM
wtf

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 07:35 PM
The randomness in this thread has gone through the roof.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 07:36 PM
The randomness in this thread has gone through the roof.

You act as though that's not a regular thing in this thread...:rolleyes:

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 07:38 PM
Well I know it's there, but eh, I'm bored.

Shattered_Future
05-25-2006, 07:38 PM
Not as bad here as other places...

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 07:43 PM
Not as bad here as other places...

A Catholic church?

Just had to get Charming back...:)

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 07:44 PM
Nope. Jewish. :p
Are you all Jewish or a halfy?

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 07:45 PM
Are you all Jewish or a halfy?

He's a Nazi.

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 07:51 PM
Are you really a nazi?

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 07:53 PM
Are you really a nazi?

He might as well be.

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 07:54 PM
Even through the internet that makes me uncomfortable...

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 07:55 PM
It juts makes me want to shoot him in the head

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 07:55 PM
Oh don't start that again.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 07:57 PM
Back on topic, and to avoid Charming's Nazi plague.

I can play the Bed of Razors intro riff. \m/

/is guitar n00b, and is a bassist at heart

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 07:58 PM
I dont think im retarded i just hate you

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 07:59 PM
Back on topic, and to avoid Charming's Nazi plague.

I can play the Bed of Razors intro riff. \m/

/is guitar n00b, and is a bassist at heart

How do you play it? I've never been able to see Alexi's fingers on any videos.

I don't mean what are the notes, I mean position/fingering wise.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:00 PM
Stop, both of you. :angry:

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 08:01 PM
Stop, both of you. :angry:


well ill leave,dont have anything more to say anyways, bye :wave:

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:01 PM
How do you play it? I've never been able to see Alexi's fingers on any videos.

I don't mean what are the notes, I mean position/fingering wise.

Pinky on the 12th, index on the 7th. I don't have my guitar with me right now (study hall), I can probably better describe it when I get back to my dorm.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:03 PM
Have a recording handy of BoR/

Nah, once I nail the money for a PodXT I will record as much as I know.

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 08:03 PM
Pinky on the 12th, index on the 7th. I don't have my guitar with me right now (study hall), I can probably better describe it when I get back to my dorm.

Judging by those 2 notes you gave, it's probably the same way as me.

e------------------------------------------
b-12-8-----------8-11-8------------8--
d-------11-9-11----------11-9-11-----
g------------------------------------------
a------------------------------------------
e------------------------------------------

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 08:07 PM
I know, but I always just press eadgbe since I can do it quicker than dgcdaf.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:07 PM
wot wot wot scared of debate?

Stop antagonizing people, Dylan. It doesn't make for good Bodom discussion.

And jah, BoR be in D, Mitch.

Silenius
05-25-2006, 08:08 PM
Thats how I do it too... (the fingering)

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 08:09 PM
Not for me.



D-------------------
A-------------------
F--Big Fat Gay---
C-------------------
G-------------------
D-------------------

Everyone, be happy.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:12 PM
Sorry to be a nazi, but DGFAD is actually quicker to type

How very clever of you. :p

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 08:14 PM
So like does it offend you in any way that there is a 100% Jew who is a humungous Wintersun and Bodom fan who posts in the same threads as you?

Silent Death
05-25-2006, 08:19 PM
Hey, not to sound offensive or anything, but what happened to all the old regulars? It has been a while since I have been on... But I remeber there used to be a few people that were on here all the time... But maybe it was just name changes or something...

Iheart... You were one right?

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Well as long as we mutually hate eachother we can leave it at that.

Make sure we never find out where we live or our last names or anything, cause I'm pretty sure I would find some way to horribly injure you, and you for me as well.

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 08:25 PM
Well as stupid as I may be my town is posted right on here, and I'm the only Jew in town, so hopefully you aren't that dedicated.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:27 PM
I am moderating this conversation. I will relentlessly flame the first one to cross a border I'll call 'morality'.

Keep it clean, gents. No hits below the belt.

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:31 PM
but but but.... He's a goddamn jew.

No if's and's or but's.

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 08:53 PM
Nah, once I nail the money for a PodXT I will record as much as I know.

Btw, I'm going to be jealous of you when that happens!! :mad:

Sleepy
05-25-2006, 08:55 PM
Btw, I'm going to be jealous of you when that happens!! :mad:

You're going to be even more jealous when I purchase a Bass PodtXT as well, I bet. :D

I wish there was an all-inclusive one, but it'd probably just as expensive as both, anyway. I'll make a bunch of recordings for your ears to feast on once I have them, Mitch. :thumb:

MRDuCran
05-25-2006, 08:59 PM
Nah, I don't play bass.

Yeah those recordings will be automatically good I think because of the XT.

I WANT ONE!

Apocalyptic Raids
05-25-2006, 09:07 PM
How long have you held your beliefs, Charming?

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 09:11 PM
Charming, did you have a name on here before I'm Charming? I vaguely remember it unless I am mistaken.

Apocalyptic Raids
05-25-2006, 09:13 PM
man_made_god was his former name, IIRC.

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 09:14 PM
Ahh yes now I recall. So why the nazi thing all of a sudden? We used to be friendly aquantances back in the day and nothing was ever mentioned about being Nazi.

Forlorn Hope
05-25-2006, 09:25 PM
Why exactly is there such a big debate about this? He's a Jew, so what? His religion and/or ancestry has nothing to do with his personality, or him as a person. Yes, we know you hate jews, you have cleanly established that, but it doesn't matter. This is a COB thread, not a fascist vs. jew thread.

Anyway, when is that live COB Dvd supposed to come out? (if it hasn't already)
I still don't own any COB albums :(
I'll have to fix that when I go to the store again.

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 09:28 PM
Why exactly is there such a big debate about this? He's a Jew, so what? His religion and/or ancestry has nothing to do with his personality, or him as a person. Yes, we know you hate jews, you have cleanly established that, but it doesn't matter. This is a COB thread, not a fascist vs. jew thread.

Anyway, when is that live COB Dvd supposed to come out? (if it hasn't already)
I still don't own any COB albums :(
I'll have to fix that when I go to the store again.
If he disregarded my ancestry then he wouldn't be doing a very good job at being a Nazi. The whole idea behind racism is that we don't have personalities, or at least they don't matter, that's how stupid it is. If he was able to see past taht he wouldn't be a nazi.

Apocalyptic Raids
05-25-2006, 09:41 PM
one less poseur

BigTrav415
05-25-2006, 09:42 PM
Bye :wave:

I'm looking forward to listening to some Bodom at camp with my metalhead friend again :D

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 09:42 PM
Goodbye, I hope you die a horribly painful death and when you realize how evil you are it will be far too late.

GenuineImitation
05-25-2006, 09:44 PM
What made Dylan become a Nazi over night?

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 09:45 PM
Some person that just started posting in here what last week? he saw his avi and i guess decided on becomeing one :-)

Apocalyptic Raids
05-25-2006, 09:46 PM
What made Dylan become a Nazi over night?
He wanted to impress Necronomicon.

AA-12
05-25-2006, 09:46 PM
I'm a reg here, been here longer than you so nice try.

EDIT: To LBRH

EDIT: Nice ninja messaging on SLSK AR

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 09:47 PM
i can see by your post count,but i meant in this thread i dont think ive ever seen u in here before,thats what i meant

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 09:49 PM
he wanted to be pretty

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 09:49 PM
i can see by your post count,but i meant in this thread i dont think ive ever seen u in here before,thats what i meant
You don't remember Man Made God from the Bodom thread?

Do you hate Jews because they are Jewish by blood or becuase of religion, becuase I am a really strong athiest (to Dylan).

Apocalyptic Raids
05-25-2006, 09:49 PM
EDIT: Nice ninja messaging on SLSK AR
;)

I've considered myself a misanthrope for a long time as well.
:lol:

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-25-2006, 09:53 PM
You don't remember Man Made God from the Bodom thread?

Do you hate Jews because they are Jewish by blood or becuase of religion, becuase I am a really strong athiest (to Dylan).


i wasnt talking to him and yes i remmber man made god i still tend to call him that,i was tlaking to the other one

IheartSP
05-25-2006, 09:58 PM
You've argued that your jewish and how offensive this is to you?

Which is it?

I have them for their wrongly held power in the middle east and religion.


@ Jono , STFU. You can laugh all you want. I don't take aussies seriously.
If that's the case why would you hate me? I have nothing to do with the religion at all and the middle east I barely even pay attention to.

repcak
05-26-2006, 03:46 AM
i wasnt talking to him and yes i remmber man made god i still tend to call him that,i was tlaking to the other one
if you talk to the other guy "Captain Frank Castle" you mean "Necronomicon" - he changed his name, some time ago.

its sad that I'm Charming is now banned forever. i started this discussion because of Captain Frank Castle and I'm Charming started with all his jokes. now he is banned forever... :upset:

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 03:52 AM
These guys are good. Not great though. My favorite song is Punch Me I Bleed & In Your Face. Could We talk about "Are You Dead Yet?"? It's an amazing album. The only Children Of Bodom album I have though.

blue3
05-26-2006, 03:59 AM
I'm sure you'll change your mind once you listen to their other albums.

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 04:06 AM
I'm sure you'll change your mind once you listen to their other albums.
Ok. What other album should I get? Can any of you guys play any good solos from Are You Dead yet?

blue3
05-26-2006, 04:15 AM
You should get Follow the Reaper. All their other albums are good. Why did you get Are You Dead Yet first?

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 05:34 AM
Your in for a surprise witht he other albums, their new stuff is so different it's almost like it's a different band.

repcak
05-26-2006, 06:51 AM
since AYDY they sound a little bit like a NWOAHM band or a metalcore band (drumwise). their older releases are very classical touched - in Something Wild f.e. there are a lot of melodies by mozart.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 08:29 AM
if you talk to the other guy "Captain Frank Castle" you mean "Necronomicon" - he changed his name, some time ago.

its sad that I'm Charming is now banned forever. i started this discussion because of Captain Frank Castle and I'm Charming started with all his jokes. now he is banned forever... :upset:


Ohhh thats him,wow thats something shocking :eek: didnt know that lol

Squirrel
05-26-2006, 08:57 AM
I'm Charming was a complete and utter retard and deserves to go.

Apocalyptic Raids
05-26-2006, 08:58 AM
:squirrel: speaks the truth.

Squirrel
05-26-2006, 09:05 AM
:cool:

repcak
05-26-2006, 09:08 AM
i liked I'm Charming a lot, till the moment when he started with his jokes. i nominated him even for the R&M member of the year.

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 09:52 AM
I still talk to the guy. I really haven't figured out what led to his sudden, immature outburst of forcing his political and religious views on every forum board he could find, though.

Shred Danson
05-26-2006, 10:21 AM
Wow, damn, looks like I missed a lot.

Never really liked I'm Charming that much. He always came across as a douche, even if he was cool with me. The fact that he's such an ignorant idiot doesn't help...

GenuineImitation
05-26-2006, 10:24 AM
I saw his reasoning behind his views on his other forum. Its interesting, even if it is very ignorant and repulsive.

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 10:26 AM
I saw his reasoning behind his views on his other forum. Its interesting, even if it is very ignorant and repulsive.

I agree. He's a reasonable and intelligent person, but his racism shocks me.

GenuineImitation
05-26-2006, 10:28 AM
I agree. He's a reasonable and intelligent person, but his racism shocks me.


It was very shocking when I logged on last night and saw what he was up to. I dont agree with him, but I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion.

repcak
05-26-2006, 10:30 AM
after a member is gone, everybody says his opinion about him... i like him, i hate him, he was ignorant, i never liked him really, etc.

would like to know what ppl will talk about me, when i leave MX :p

Squirrel
05-26-2006, 10:30 AM
Wow, damn, looks like I missed a lot.

Never really liked I'm Charming that much. He always came across as a douche, even if he was cool with me. The fact that he's such an ignorant idiot doesn't help...

This, basically.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 10:32 AM
after a member is gone, everybody says his opinion about him... i like him, i hate him, he was ignorant, i never liked him really, etc.

would like to know what ppl will talk about me, when i leave MX :p

I havent really talked to you but i think your nice and youve been nice to me :)

repcak
05-26-2006, 10:34 AM
once we had a dicussion about abortion, death penalty... do you remember Mandy? this was the only time we had high-quality posts ITT :D

Shred Danson
05-26-2006, 10:35 AM
after a member is gone, everybody says his opinion about him... i like him, i hate him, he was ignorant, i never liked him really, etc.

would like to know what ppl will talk about me, when i leave MX :p

Hey, pardon me but I wasn't online to witness the whole thing and call him a bag of douche right then and there! :p

I check up on this thread and holy hell, there's basically 5 pages of this drama goin' on. I was expecting some CoB discussion :rolleyes:

PS: I think you suck and hope you burn in hell.

Fortunately the above statement is false.

GenuineImitation
05-26-2006, 10:36 AM
I remeber that Dylan was against abortions. For someone that felt everyone deserved a change to live, whats with his interest with the holocaust?

repcak
05-26-2006, 10:37 AM
CoB discussion in the CoB Thread? are you kidding? :lol:

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 10:37 AM
once we had a dicussion about abortion, death penalty... do you remember Mandy? this was the only time we had high-quality posts ITT :D


lol yes i do remember it,not really sure what side you were on but i dont think it was mine,your still nice tho :chug:

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 10:38 AM
I remeber that Dylan was against abortions. For someone that felt everyone deserved a change to live, whats with his interest with the holocaust?


It was me who talked him into being against abortion and it wasnt easy,it shocked me about him and the holocaust thing

repcak
05-26-2006, 10:40 AM
lol yes i do remember it,not really sure what side you were on but i dont think it was mine,your still nice tho :chug:
i was against death penalty, but not against abortion; but i don't remeber what opinion Dylan had ...

Shred Danson
05-26-2006, 10:41 AM
CoB discussion in the CoB Thread? are you kidding? :lol:

Yes....yes, I am.

>_>

<_<

I remeber that Dylan was against abortions. For someone that felt everyone deserved a change to live, whats with his interest with the holocaust?

That does seem very ironic and hypocritical.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 10:42 AM
Well at the point im not sure whether im against death penalty or not but im deffinatly against abortion.............dont know why were talking about this now,knowing this thread theyll be an argument before the day is over with lol

Shred Danson
05-26-2006, 10:43 AM
This sort of thing is why we have the Politics forum.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 10:48 AM
yeah but i get angry and end up trying to cuss everybody out,its like what i say is mainly just gobldy guke or however u spell it.

Shred Danson
05-26-2006, 10:52 AM
That's why argueing Politics when you know you're right in your mind is generally useless. :p

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 10:55 AM
If anything, I think Dylan was just begging for attention with this. Complaining about a lack of tolerance when you're in support of the racially selective killing of 6 million people just doesn't make sense to me.

Don't dish it out if you can't take it, I suppose. Hitler was a ****ing disgrace to the human race, and why anyone would be enamored enough with the person who started such a slaughter is beyond me. But who am I to say what's right?

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 10:57 AM
That's why argueing Politics when you know you're right in your mind is generally useless. :p


I know your deffinatly right :thumb:

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 11:10 AM
Who is this guy you're speaking of? He seems crazy. :p

GenuineImitation
05-26-2006, 11:11 AM
Who is this guy you're speaking of? He seems crazy. :p


Hes a member that went on a nazi related spam attack and is now banned.

repcak
05-26-2006, 11:11 AM
http://www.metalheadsagainstracism.org/

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 11:17 AM
Hes a member that went on a nazi related spam attack and is now banned.
Is that allowed? It shouldn't be. :confused:

repcak
05-26-2006, 11:32 AM
it was allowed... until yesterday: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12410814&postcount=12066

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 11:42 AM
Now that is power man

MRDuCran
05-26-2006, 11:47 AM
Yeah great, now get off it.

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 11:47 AM
http://www.metalheadsagainstracism.org/

That's awesome.

\m/'s for repcak for the link to that.

repcak
05-26-2006, 11:49 AM
That's awesome.

\m/'s for repcak for the link to that.
thanks for the \m/ :D

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 12:12 PM
Thanks a lot for that repcak.

As I was talking to Jacob about all this last night I realized that although last night was a terrible shock to a lot of us, we should think of it as a positive experience. My eyes have been opened to how horrible the world really is, and I think we can all help in bettering it. You go through your whole life and hear about the holocaust, read about it, and see movies, but it never seems real, history never seems real. It wasn't until last night that I realized it is real, and we need to try and stop this. That site is a good start. The metal community should be united, and uniting against racists and nazis is what we need to do. I don't want to live in a world with people like that, and I especially will have trouble sharing a world with people like that if I were ever to run into one (seeing as I'm a full blown Jew).

Thanks everyone for support last night, I know I was the most horrified by what happened, I think it was cool for a lot of you to stick up for me.

repcak
05-26-2006, 12:21 PM
i only remember when i brought the topic to the "report problems" thread (some 2 weeks ago) nobody wanted to do something against racistic avatars and signatures. i was the only one. it was against "the freedom of the speech".
then i tried to convince Captain Frank Castle to change his avatar and the whole discussion ITT started once again. it needed the spam of I'm Charming that something has been done ...

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 12:24 PM
About two months ago when he was Necronominon I requested he get rid of his swastika avatar. His defense was the Swastika symbol doesn't necessarily stand for Nazism. Last night I realized how that is no defense at all because it may not always symbolize Nazism, but for him it apparently does.

It is very confusing to me how someone can be a relatively normal person, both Necronominon and Dylan have been people I was friendly to and had good discussions with. You would think that when they didn't know I was Jewish all that time and they got along with me, and they would still like me when they found out I was. Racism is far beyond my comprehension. You are supposed to hate for personal reasons, I don't understand how you can hate someone for something they cannot change. They had no problem with me before hand and we got along quite well, so the fact that they would not like me after knowing just proves how horrible they really are.

Moses
05-26-2006, 12:45 PM
Sorry but I really can't take racists seriously. It's just somthing I've never understood from the day I was born. Even when I was little, I interacted with an African American child for the first time and I could tell they looked different but I didn't hate them because I had no reason. It's just such a rediculous thing White Supremacists believe in.

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 12:55 PM
Sorry but I really can't take racists seriously. It's just somthing I've never understood from the day I was born. Even when I was little, I interacted with an African American child for the first time and I could tell they looked different but I didn't hate them because I had no reason. It's just such a rediculous thing White Supremacists believe in.
I don't understand it at all either. I have lived my life knowing hate as nothing other than personal hate. It was an eye opener to see how differently Frank Castle and I'm Charming treated me when they found out I was Jewish, seeing as we got along fairly well before. If that isn't ignorance I don't know what is.

repcak
05-26-2006, 12:57 PM
About two months ago when he was Necronominon I requested he get rid of his swastika avatar. His defense was the Swastika symbol doesn't necessarily stand for Nazism. Last night I realized how that is no defense at all because it may not always symbolize Nazism, but for him it apparently does.

It is very confusing to me how someone can be a relatively normal person, both Necronominon and Dylan have been people I was friendly to and had good discussions with. You would think that when they didn't know I was Jewish all that time and they got along with me, and they would still like me when they found out I was. Racism is far beyond my comprehension. You are supposed to hate for personal reasons, I don't understand how you can hate someone for something they cannot change. They had no problem with me before hand and we got along quite well, so the fact that they would not like me after knowing just proves how horrible they really are.
yes i remember it... he said (because i too once said something against his avatar) that this is a symbol from the buddhism, what is true. so i thought he believes in buddhism - now i know that it was a swastika for him.

maybe necronomicon and dylan won't like me now, when i say that i am a polish ... born in poland, though i changed my citizenship some 3-4 years ago to the austrian one, because i live in austria since i am 4years old.

repcak
05-26-2006, 12:59 PM
I don't understand it at all either. I have lived my life knowing hate as nothing other than personal hate.
thats what i think too... i can hate ppl only when i "knew" them before and have reason for hating them. in other words: you can hate only ppl, you loved before.

It was an eye opener to see how differently Frank Castle and I'm Charming treated me when they found out I was Jewish, seeing as we got along fairly well before. If that isn't ignorance I don't know what is.
they treated you differently after you said them you are a jew?! :eek:

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 01:00 PM
yes i remember it... he said (because i too once said something against his avatar) that this is a symbol from the buddhism, what is true. so i thought he believes in buddhism - now i know that it was a swastika for him.

maybe necronomicon and dylan won't like me now, when i say that i am a polish ... born in poland, though i changed my citizenship some 3-4 years ago to the austrian one, because i live in austria since i am 4years old.
It's sickening to think someone can like you one minute then hate you the next purely becuase of who you're parents and grandparents are. Racism is so far detatched from personal feelings that is has almost no real meaning.

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 01:01 PM
thats what i think too... i can hate ppl only when i "knew" them before and have reason for hating them. in other words: you can hate only ppl, you loved before.


they treated you differently after you said them you are a jew?! :eek:
Well I found out Dylan was a Nazi last night when I asked if he was half or full jewish. I saw the avatar and figured he was Jewish making a joke, becuase we've got that racial immunit to make fun of ourselves without getting frowned upon, but then I found out he actually was a Nazi and I had said I was Jewish. He proceeded to make a few racist comments and that's when things spiraled way out of control.

Moses
05-26-2006, 01:02 PM
I actually saw a Holocaust video on some of the concentration camps. It was the most horrific thing I've ever seen. It's very hard to believe it happened.

One of the most eye opening things I've seen was a video of a blonde woman tied to a chair, and she screams "Snuff Films don't exist" and she's shot in the head. It certainly looks real, though I'm not a hundred percent.

There's also a DVD from the same guys that make Bumfights and it's about terrorism. I saw the trailor and was horrified to seen a man carrying a human head and dropping it off of a front porch.

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 01:04 PM
If you've ever seen Schindler's List, it's a very touching movie.

repcak
05-26-2006, 01:06 PM
8mm is one of the most shocking films i've seen... before this film i saw a lot of horror movies and played brutal video games and thought i can deal with brutality. but its something different when you know its science-fiction and when its real - like 8mm. now i have to write a paper for university about the chechnya conflict in russia and when i read some books i get sick ... its horrible what's going on there. execution, abuse, rapes, ... and the whole world don't want to know it - looks away.

i was two times in my life in a concentration camp: 1) near linz (i forgot the name). its some 100km away from my hometown and 200km away from vienna. after the visit i couldn't eat for the half day. 2) auschwitz last summer.

Moses
05-26-2006, 01:06 PM
We actually had a guy who was a Jewish Holocaust survivor come in and give us his story. It was so bad what happened to him.

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 01:13 PM
Any decent human being would want to see the Nazis suffer after hearing a story of a holocaust survivor. I would love to see every Nazi right now go through a week in the life of a Jew during the holocaust, and see how many of them are Nazis afterwards.

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 02:15 PM
I don't understand how you can hate someone for something they cannot change.

I agree with your point in what I cut out, but I don't mean this in a bad way. So please don't take it wrong. You can change your religion. Will you? Most wouldn't . It's not set in stone as skin color is though. Don't take that the wrong way plz.

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 02:31 PM
I am an athiest, I am Jewish by blood. I don't understand how the entire world doesn't realize this by now. It's not like you convert to Judaism and your nose changes shape...

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 02:33 PM
I am an athiest, I am Jewish by blood. I don't understand how the entire world doesn't realize this by now. It's not like you convert to Judaism and your nose changes shape...
oh. You can't change bloodline, I didn't mean that. I mean, you can choose weather to be what ever religion.

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 02:33 PM
Yeah well I disagree with Judaism very strongly, I am extremely opposed to the "big 3".

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 02:35 PM
Yeah well I disagree with Judaism very strongly, I am extremely opposed to the "big 3".
Then why do you make such a defense for it or are you just against racists?

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 02:38 PM
I'm against racists and nazis, this has nothing to do with religion at all. Fighting over religion is 99% of the reason why this world is the way it is.

repcak
05-26-2006, 02:44 PM
I'm against racists and nazis, this has nothing to do with religion at all. Fighting over religion is 99% of the reason why this world is the way it is.
thats true and this will not change in the near future ... you have to look only at the iraq and whats going on in the world since 9/11.

Shadows
05-26-2006, 02:51 PM
Religion accounts for roughly 95% of the animosity in my life.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 03:25 PM
Im a Baptist :-)

Shadows
05-26-2006, 03:26 PM
I don't think it's religion, I just think it's a combination of ignorant, self-righteous and greedy idiots who just use religion as a reason to control others, or people that need justification for actions that make them superior.
That's basically it. My parents are hardcore Catholics and they tried so hard to force it on me that it drove me away. They're now convinced that my life is meaningless and they're failures as parents.

Moses
05-26-2006, 03:27 PM
thats true and this will not change in the near future ... you have to look only at the iraq and whats going on in the world since 9/11.
That's not because of religion. You could make arguements that it's because of money, oil, imperialism whatever but I don't think it's about religion. It's a whole different arguement.
Religion accounts for roughly 95% of the animosity in my life.
I don't think it's religion, I just think it's a combination of ignorant, self-righteous and greedy idiots who just use religion as a reason to control others, or people that need justification for actions that make them superior.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 03:27 PM
They dont want u going to hell

didnt u just post that?

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 03:29 PM
Do I smell a ban coming?

Moses
05-26-2006, 03:30 PM
They dont want u going to hell

didnt u just post that?
I deleted the other post because it was last on the page and I wrote too much for it to not be seen.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 03:31 PM
ok i looked back after i posted and i didnt see it anymore so i thought i was seeing things for a second lol

repcak
05-26-2006, 03:41 PM
That's not because of religion. You could make arguements that it's because of money, oil, imperialism whatever but I don't think it's about religion. It's a whole different arguement.
yes, i agree with you; iraq is the small picture but when you look at the big picture it has to do with the western world (secularised/catholic) and the islamic world - and some hardcore islamics fights the jihad against the westen world. Sure Bush didn't attaked iraq cause of religion and mass destruction weapons - he wanted the oil. but since 9/11 and since afghanistan and iraq the western world and the islamic world diverged a lot.

Do I smell a ban coming?
:lol:




/god is dead and no one cares, if there is a hell i'll see you there (NIN/Heresy) :p

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 03:51 PM
Dont start please

repcak
05-26-2006, 03:56 PM
do you mean me? ... what do you mean with "don't start pls"?

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 03:58 PM
with your NIN quote,i believe in god and the people that dont it bothers me because i wonder what will happen to them to be honest,same goes with u and u not believing in god it makes me wonder what will happen to you

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 03:59 PM
About two months ago when he was Necronominon I requested he get rid of his swastika avatar. His defense was the Swastika symbol doesn't necessarily stand for Nazism. Last night I realized how that is no defense at all because it may not always symbolize Nazism, but for him it apparently does.

It is very confusing to me how someone can be a relatively normal person, both Necronominon and Dylan have been people I was friendly to and had good discussions with. You would think that when they didn't know I was Jewish all that time and they got along with me, and they would still like me when they found out I was. Racism is far beyond my comprehension. You are supposed to hate for personal reasons, I don't understand how you can hate someone for something they cannot change. They had no problem with me before hand and we got along quite well, so the fact that they would not like me after knowing just proves how horrible they really are.

Racism's inherent flaw is that it is wholly and totally illogical. Not trying to boast for myself or anything, but even though Dylan and Necro are both self-proclaimed Nazis now, I don't treat them any differently because of it. I'm rather annoyed that they would go and spam MX and be as rude and insulting as they were, but Dylan's been antagonizing this board with stuff like that for a while now. Racism works both ways, as I was saying to Julian last night.

And I agree, just as racists supposedly 'just want to stick together', we should as well. A conglomerate of all races standing united against racism would surely be force enough to oppose it.

EDIT: @ Lil' Bloodred - People are allowed to state that they are not religious. You getting angry at them for saying that is only sinking down the level of the Nazi spamhogs.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 04:03 PM
im sorry but did it sound like i was getting angry at anyone,i was just chatting

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 04:05 PM
with your NIN quote,i believe in god and the people that dont it bothers me because i wonder what will happen to them to be honest,same goes with u and u not believing in god it makes me wonder what will happen to you

Hmm..I guess I misunderstood your post then, Bloodred. That's my fault, sorry. :)

Religion accounts for roughly 95% of the animosity in my life.

Not quite 95% over here...but still a hell of a lot more than it should. Hence the reason that I am Atheist.

repcak
05-26-2006, 04:05 PM
with your NIN quote,i believe in god and the people that dont it bothers me because i wonder what will happen to them to be honest,same goes with u and u not believing in god it makes me wonder what will happen to you

ok i'm sorry; we had this discussions once before, together with the abortion and death penalty discussion, i won't start again - and i won't say i don't believe in god, nor i believe... i don't know what to believe. my view on religion and what is after death are very complicated and i don't even understand my own views.
(does this make sense?)


but lets start posting about music again :D

i just listen to Sinergy's album suicide by my side (Passage to the fourth world solo \m/ *headbanging* ) - what other albums can you recommend me by sinergy?

IheartSP
05-26-2006, 04:08 PM
Theyve only got 2 others and they aren't as good.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 04:09 PM
Noone needs to be sorry for anything :-)

I dont really like synergy i heard one song by them and she doesnt sound like what i thought she would to be honest,but i still just dont like it,the music itself is nice tho

repcak
05-26-2006, 04:09 PM
so suicide by my side is their best one?

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 04:10 PM
so suicide by my side is their best one?

Yes. Pretty good album, IMO.

HAIL TRUE METAL
05-26-2006, 05:02 PM
wow, what the hell happened last night?

Shadows
05-26-2006, 05:05 PM
It is very confusing to me how someone can be a relatively normal person, both Necronominon and Dylan have been people I was friendly to and had good discussions with. You would think that when they didn't know I was Jewish all that time and they got along with me, and they would still like me when they found out I was. Racism is far beyond my comprehension. You are supposed to hate for personal reasons, I don't understand how you can hate someone for something they cannot change. They had no problem with me before hand and we got along quite well, so the fact that they would not like me after knowing just proves how horrible they really are.
Do those two really have something against you because you're Jewish? That's very disappointing. :( I'm 70-80% German, but I don't let some stupid historical event drive my opinion of others. I've known several Jews pretty well and I couldn't find a single thing about them that would make me see them differently from a non-Jew.

repcak
05-26-2006, 05:06 PM
hell on earth :p

Drunken Viking
05-26-2006, 05:35 PM
Do those two really have something against you because you're Jewish? That's very disappointing. :( I'm 70-80% German, but I don't let some stupid historical event drive my opinion of others. I've known several Jews pretty well and I couldn't find a single thing about them that would make me see them differently from a non-Jew.
I'm jewish and I know they were joking and everything, but I was still offended by it. It wasn't that witty at all, I don't see how replacing random words with jew to make them sound funney is clever at all. It was off topic too, it had nothing to do with the discussion.

Shadows
05-26-2006, 05:38 PM
Oh, was it that? That wasn't Necronomicon. I thought he was talking about some unrelated event.

Drunken Viking
05-26-2006, 05:40 PM
I don't know what he was talking about, I was talking about the 3 pages of Jew bashing. And it really mad me mad when I asked him about it, and he told to buy a sense of humor, and that he hated religion, and most blacks. ****ing racist pig.

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 05:46 PM
I'm jewish and I know they were joking and everything, but I was still offended by it. It wasn't that witty at all, I don't see how replacing random words with jew to make them sound funney is clever at all. It was off topic too, it had nothing to do with the discussion.

You're mistaken.

Necro and Dylan were not joking when they posted most of the material in here. Those are their beliefs.

repcak
05-26-2006, 05:47 PM
.... we are all shocked by Necro and Dylan and that's the reason why they are both banned (I'm Charming even forever)

Drunken Viking
05-26-2006, 05:48 PM
He told me he was joking.

From the IM:
RogueWarheart (6:06:49 PM): Ummm. Plenty of joking. I mean. You can't take "triple jew hammerblow" or "living dead jew" seriously. If you can't pick up a joke, then buy a sense of humor. Some was through my views. But it was really un serious if you read it.

Shadows
05-26-2006, 05:58 PM
He told me he was joking.

From the IM:
RogueWarheart (6:06:49 PM): Ummm. Plenty of joking. I mean. You can't take "triple jew hammerblow" or "living dead jew" seriously. If you can't pick up a joke, then buy a sense of humor. Some was through my views. But it was really un serious if you read it.
Interesting...

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 06:01 PM
Well, I guess I'll clarify, then.

He said most of it was his views, the rest, such as skewed Bodom song titles and images of Jews being tormented for eternity was just for shock value.

I thought what they did was immature, yes, and I think their beliefs are perverse and often hypocritical, but I won't treat them any differently because of it. That'd just be acting like a Nazi, now wouldn't it?

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 06:36 PM
Well, I guess I'll clarify, then.

He said most of it was his views, the rest, such as skewed Bodom song titles and images of Jews being tormented for eternity was just for shock value.

I thought what they did was immature, yes, and I think their beliefs are perverse and often hypocritical, but I won't treat them any differently because of it. That'd just be acting like a Nazi, now wouldn't it?
That's just ****ed up. Are they ever coming back on here? sorry. I'm a n00b

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 06:47 PM
Oh man, how people get so excited. I don't really hate any of you anyway

-CFC

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 06:50 PM
Oh man, how people get so excited. I don't really hate any of you anyway

-CFC
True. Very true.

Sleepy
05-26-2006, 07:18 PM
That's just ****ed up. Are they ever coming back on here? sorry. I'm a n00b

Nah, people have their views, whatever.

And as to the question whether or not they're coming back...I guess you have your answer. :p

Howya doin' Necro?

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 07:21 PM
Good actually. My new computer came in the mail today. You?

Shadows
05-26-2006, 08:27 PM
Wait wait wait wait...CFC was Necronomicon?

Josh, you get your name changed too damn much. :(

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 08:37 PM
Mwahahahaha

Shadows
05-26-2006, 08:49 PM
Thou art, as we say, a fool. :mad:

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 08:58 PM
Good actually. My new computer came in the mail today. You?

Sup Josh?
What are the specs on that mac?

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 09:01 PM
Sup Josh?
What are the specs on that mac?
2.16 GHz Dual-Core Intel Processor
2 Gigs RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256 MB

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ There's a link. I have the 17" one.

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 09:02 PM
2.16 GHz Dual-Core Intel Processor
2 Gigs RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256 MB

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ There's a link. I have the 17" one.

Nice. I'm guessing you'll dual boot OS X & Windows, since you've got the Intel chip?

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 09:04 PM
Maybe, I don't really have a reason to at the moment though.

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 09:05 PM
Maybe, I don't really have a reason to at the moment though.
It'd be one of those things that can't hurt. How's gaming on Macs?

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 09:08 PM
Yeah. I ran World of Warcraft at 1680 x 1050 with most everything turned all the way up, and it ran at 60 fps constant. Gaming in general isn't too supported on macs, but with the dual boot on the new ones it could work.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-26-2006, 09:10 PM
My friend plays that game,ive nvr tried it tho

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 09:10 PM
Yeah. I ran World of Warcraft at 1680 x 1050 with most everything turned all the way up, and it ran at 60 fps constant. Gaming in general isn't too supported on macs, but with the dual boot on the new ones it could work.
That's why I thought dual boot might be handy. How many computers you have now?

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 09:30 PM
That's why I thought dual boot might be handy. How many computers you have now?
3 here at the moment.

Apocalyptic Raids
05-26-2006, 09:37 PM
**** you, I have one crappy one :(

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 09:44 PM
**** you, I have one crappy one :(
I have two computers. Desktop & a Laptop.

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 10:10 PM
**** you, I have one crappy one :(
/points and laughs

Apocalyptic Raids
05-26-2006, 10:13 PM
:upset:

Nazi Bastard
05-26-2006, 10:15 PM
<3 <3

Apocalyptic Raids
05-26-2006, 10:16 PM
totally

FolkVikingFan
05-26-2006, 11:02 PM
totally
Why are there so many aussies on this board. :confused:

Apocalyptic Raids
05-26-2006, 11:09 PM
It's only been a recent thing.

FolkVikingFan
05-27-2006, 12:03 AM
It's only been a recent thing.
ohh. ok

Apocalyptic Raids
05-27-2006, 12:07 AM
Back when I joined there weren't many Australian members that I remember. I have noticed many Australian noobs lately though.

FolkVikingFan
05-27-2006, 01:26 AM
Anyone digging Kissing The Shadows? Kickass song.

MRDuCran
05-27-2006, 01:28 AM
We all do.

FolkVikingFan
05-27-2006, 01:43 AM
We all do.
How many people in here play Bodom's songs?

Silenius
05-27-2006, 01:44 AM
How many people in here play Bodom's songs?
I try. :p