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Drunken Viking
05-21-2006, 01:51 AM
Janne.

Battle Against Time
05-21-2006, 02:03 AM
whats the keyboardists name, hes really good. is that common in slovick metal
?


CoB is finnish. I think that region is refered to as, scandanavian though.

repcak
05-21-2006, 03:39 PM
@MRDuCran: i downloaded Powertab and your exercises... thanks a lot.

edit:
the first shape you write is Major D:
15-12
-------13
----------12

notes: E,G,C

thats not major D (not even a major) or do you have another tuning on your guitar? i'm a little bit confused

GenuineImitation
05-21-2006, 03:55 PM
Was Dylan banned again?

Drunken Viking
05-21-2006, 04:23 PM
Not that I know of, that name was just already in his auto login thing, and he's a lazy ***, so...

Battle Against Time
05-21-2006, 04:24 PM
Not that I know of, that name was just already in his auto login thing, and he's a lazy ***, so...


Not banned. lollercaust.


Just to lazy to sign in on my laptop as Charming. Yup.

repcak
05-21-2006, 04:32 PM
one more question to sweeping:

you, Mitch are doing it the way and Troy Stetina too.
when you have a sweep f.e.:

15p12---------12
-------13---13
----------12
u-----u--d--d--d

your sweeping is up, up, down, down, down; but i play u,u,u,d,d - is this wrong or should i play as i played before, or shall i re-learn it?

Drunken Viking
05-21-2006, 04:40 PM
Not banned. lollercaust.


Just to lazy to sign in on my laptop as Charming. Yup.
The message I'm getting is you're not man enough to sign in as I'm Charming. :rolleyes:

encmetalhead
05-21-2006, 06:16 PM
did i just click on something i wasn't suppose to?...


that should be a song name and enless COB reads this i got dibs on it lol

MRDuCran
05-21-2006, 06:18 PM
@MRDuCran: i downloaded Powertab and your exercises... thanks a lot.

edit:
the first shape you write is Major D:
15-12
-------13
----------12

notes: E,G,C

thats not major D (not even a major) or do you have another tuning on your guitar? i'm a little bit confused

No, it is a major shape. I wrote D because it is a D SHAPE. It's a pretty important word when dealing with arpeggios and inversions.

Play an open D chord.

e-2
b-3
g-2
d-0
a-
e-

Yes? Yes!.

Notice that that open D shape is exactly the same SHAPE as the first sweep I put in the powertab. So the first one is a C MAJOR arpeggio using the D SHAPE.

The next line is a C MAJOR arpeggio using the A SHAPE. Play an open A chord, notice the similarities in that SHAPE?

By now you should have guessed the next line is a C MAJOR arpeggio using the SHAPE of E MAJOR.

The next 3 lines are exactly the same but MINOR, so finding the 3rd of each chord, and flattening it. You will need to know where the root note is in each shape, for each string pattern to find the key.
Obviously its going to be a different voicing if you're playing a 3 string and a 4 string of the same arpeggio shape. Look:

e-12----12---
b-13----13---
g-12----12---
d--------14---
a--------------
e--------------

The first one is C MAJOR, but the lowest note is a G, which is why you need to learn where the root is in each shape, because in this case it is on the B string, 13th fret.

The second is exactly the same but with an added note at the bottom (E). They're both still C MAJOR because you're not changing any notes, just adding, and since E is already part of C MAJOR (perfect 5th), then the name remains the same.

Hope that made some sense. Don't worry if it doesn't, I wouldn't expect you to learn this stuff overnight.

encmetalhead
05-21-2006, 06:20 PM
ok i'm just goign to exit while i'm still a fan of the guitars before i try to understand the tabs....

MRDuCran
05-21-2006, 06:21 PM
ok i'm just goign to exit while i'm still a fan of the guitars before i try to understand the tabs....

What the hell are you talking about dude?

Battle Against Time
05-21-2006, 06:23 PM
What the hell are you talking about dude?



That's what I'm wondering

encmetalhead
05-21-2006, 06:26 PM
i'm talking about those tabs were hard for me to understand then i tred to make a joke that wasnt funny lol

repcak
05-21-2006, 06:29 PM
thanks Mitch... i think i now know what you mean... but i tired and will go to bed now. i will deal with it tomorrow.
gn8

MRDuCran
05-21-2006, 06:55 PM
thanks Mitch... i think i now know what you mean... but i tired and will go to bed now. i will deal with it tomorrow.
gn8

If you need any more specific help, throw questions at me.

To answer this:

one more question to sweeping:

you, Mitch are doing it the way and Troy Stetina too.
when you have a sweep f.e.:

15p12---------12
-------13---13
----------12
u-----u--d--d--d

your sweeping is up, up, down, down, down; but i play u,u,u,d,d - is this wrong or should i play as i played before, or shall i re-learn it?

Your way isn't "wrong". I guess I belive there's no such thing as "wrong" in guitar playing in general. Some people anchor their pinky on the body when they pick or sweep, some people say it's bad technique. I say look at Jason becker!

People give specifics about how you should pick and how you should hold the pick. I say look at Marty Friedman. Put them together and you get what? CACOPHONY!! How can people deny the awesomeness of those two.

As a general rule, if it works for YOU, and isn't painful or discomfortable or anything like that, then go for it. Of course you should try both, your way and my way, say a day on each or something, at least that way you can compare and see which one you like the best.

You could go and mimic Alexi and not pick the B string when you descend, or be like Steve Morse who alternate picks arpeggios like that with ease. It's all up to you.

Crysiss
05-21-2006, 07:32 PM
Agreed.

Great Advice.

JacksonRR3guy
05-21-2006, 08:08 PM
How much is the one you're getting.
Oh, and where are you buying it from (meaning what city you're from etc)

Sam Ash in Clearwater, FL

repcak
05-22-2006, 05:08 AM
Alexi does not pick the b-string? so he hammer-on the b-string on the 13th fret (as in your example)

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:41 AM
Alexi does not pick the b-string? so he hammer-on the b-string on the 13th fret (as in your example)

I believe so yes. I like to refer to them as "hammer ons from nowhere". I got it from Joe Satriani and I think it's an accurate term. A hammer on is usually playing another note higher up on the string, obvously being lower it would be a pull off. And again, usually it's on one string otherwise most people will pick it if it's on a different string, but then it will be called sweep picking.

You basically play the notes as normal with your left hand but just fret it a little bit harder since it's not being picked. It's quite evident on the Jan 2006 Young Guitar DVD on the demonstration of the Warheart interlude, and Towards Dead End intro, you can clearly see his hand only going in one direction, down, except when he brings it back up. It's even trasncribed in the book as all downstrokes.

e---------17h22p17----------
b-----18--------------18------
g-19----------------------19--

So he would play that Down, Down, Down, hammer on to the D, pull off onto the A, "hammer on from nowhere" on the F, and then that last D I tabbed would be the start again where you repeat. Notice he hammers from the A to the D on the high E string, most people use a downstroke on the A, then an upstroke on the high D (22nd) then pull off for a more accurate timing. I think it's these little minute changes that contribute to the sloppiness of that demonstration.

Again. hopefully I made sense in my rant but I like to explain things as best as possible first time round. To be honest, I wouldn't recommend learning this way because that 3 note legato bit at the top may lead to unaccuracy in your timing and it's not incredibly efficient to do that hammer on from nowhere when you're learning more advanced sweep picking things.

For example a 4 or 5 string:

e-19p15----------------
b---------17-------------
g------------16----------
d---------------17-------
a------------------19----
e-------------------------

If you learnt that way, it'd be weird having to play this will all upstrokes right?

Head over to http://www.insaneguitar.com/mc/sweeping.html for a good guide to this stuff and again, if you need any help, I'd be happy to help out.

Kurrpt
05-22-2006, 09:36 AM
i started learning my first CoB song ever, Bed of Razors

repcak
05-22-2006, 10:09 AM
O.o your first?! i thought you can play a lot of CoB songs like mitch.

Kurrpt
05-22-2006, 10:13 AM
im sure i could, but i never tried before ya know. Im not sure what caused me to start learning songs again, but i just did ya know :lol:


i just like the melody that much. Im not sure how fast those triplets were, but it was no problem.

blue3
05-22-2006, 10:14 AM
Is it easy?

Kurrpt
05-22-2006, 10:18 AM
it was for me, yea. I didnt learn the entire song yet. Id say i nailed about 1/2 of it in 20 minutes. I didnt want to get bogged down with it, so i move on, come back, and so on.


I learned "symphony of destruction" by megadeath in like 10 minutes. I dont really like the solo enough to learn it verbatum. If i were to play a cover version, id make up my own solo


Im also working on a lot of Loomis sweeps as well

blue3
05-22-2006, 10:29 AM
I can play Symphony of Destruction too, not the entire thing though. I rarely learn the whole song.

Kurrpt
05-22-2006, 10:32 AM
yea, i normally just learn the parts i like, or the parts that i think are "hard"


nowadays, i tend to learn the whole song. I kinda like playing the whole song through nowadays

repcak
05-22-2006, 03:16 PM
thank you mitch soo much for your explanation. i didn't knew that there are "shapes" in arpeggios/sweeping. i always thought that when you play an arpeggio you just have to connect the notes in a sweep picking and its up to you... but when there are already shapes, its much easier to come with new arpeggios than i tought before. now i understand it (lucky me, that i learnt music-theory over the weekend) :thumb:

i today walked down the streets and realized that i don't play guitar long... i always thought: "i suck, but i have to be better, cause i play guitar for sooo long" - i play only for 2years and with all the breaks even less than 2 years and i practise seriously only since january/february this year :p


edit: now while practising, i indeed have a question:
20p15
--------17
------------17

on this sweep, do you roll with your middlefinger through the B and G string? i suppose you do... well, its only sloppy thats all; troy stetina plays it the way, but i want to know if you do the same and if you have problems with "rolling" the finger. its not easy to play it clean

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 04:40 PM
thank you mitch soo much for your explanation. i didn't knew that there are "shapes" in arpeggios/sweeping. i always thought that when you play an arpeggio you just have to connect the notes in a sweep picking and its up to you... but when there are already shapes, its much easier to come with new arpeggios than i tought before. now i understand it (lucky me, that i learnt music-theory over the weekend) :thumb:

i today walked down the streets and realized that i don't play guitar long... i always thought: "i suck, but i have to be better, cause i play guitar for sooo long" - i play only for 2years and with all the breaks even less than 2 years and i practise seriously only since january/february this year :p


edit: now while practising, i indeed have a question:
20p15
--------17
------------17

on this sweep, do you roll with your middlefinger through the B and G string? i suppose you do... well, its only sloppy thats all; troy stetina plays it the way, but i want to know if you do the same and if you have problems with "rolling" the finger. its not easy to play it clean

I often tell myself I suck too, ohhh I'm not as good as Paul Gilbert I should just die ohhhh etc but you're right, don't expect to be, you've been playing 2, me 4. Gilbert started playing fast after 8 years, Becker started at 5, Malmsteen started at 7, Vai practised for stupid amounts every day. It's sickenening to know all this but it's good to have something to aspire to.

The sweep:
Yeah I roll with my middle finger, UNLESS, it's this:

e-20p15--------------------
b---------17-----------------
g------------17--------------
d---------------17p14------
a------------------------15--
e-----------------------------

Notice the D string, there's a pull off to the E instead of playing it at the 19th fret on the A. This is the way Jason Becker plays this arpeggio and works for me when playing that higher up the neck, especially on my guitar which doesn't have great high fret access. In this case, I would use my 3rd (ring) finger to roll.

It is indeed difficult to play clean, but as always, as long as you practise it slow and clean, you'll be fine. I realllly need to practise sweep picking again, I actually suck at it!

Shadows
05-22-2006, 04:45 PM
Either way I would fret like this:

e-20p15--------------------
b---------17-----------------
g------------17--------------
d---------------17p14------
a------------------------15--
e-----------------------------
..4.....1....3...2...3....1.....2

It may seem strange, but that's what works best for me when sweeping.

repcak
05-22-2006, 04:49 PM
so you sweep the 17th fret notes with your 3rd finger and do the pull-off to the 14th fret with your 3rd and 2nd/1st finger!?


my dad's firm once tried to produce guitars, but after a short time they stopped, but they still had some guitar-bodys and my dad took them home, so i plan to build my own guitar maybe this summer... lets see :D
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/guitar01.jpg
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/guitar02.jpg
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/guitar03.jpg
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/guitar04.jpg

aren't they beautiful?

Shadows Within
05-22-2006, 04:55 PM
Looks like Nuno Bettencourt's sig :p

Crysiss
05-22-2006, 04:58 PM
You should send a body my way:D

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:04 PM
Either way I would fret like this:

e-20p15--------------------
b---------17-----------------
g------------17--------------
d---------------17p14------
a------------------------15--
e-----------------------------
..4.....1....3...2...3....1.....2

It may seem strange, but that's what works best for me when sweeping.

:eek:

Weird indeed!


Hey repack, one more things about your last post.
You said "i didn't knew that there are "shapes" in arpeggios/sweeping. i always thought that when you play an arpeggio you just have to connect the notes in a sweep picking and its up to you."

The shapes all on one line of that powertab are all related to each other because they're all the same arpeggio because 1,3,5 will always make a major triad regardless of the order of the notes.

But also, it made me think you mean the order in which you play each shape. Of course if you're playing a progression, you'll need to find the appropriate shape ti fit over that chord, so using the inversions saves you from shifting position alot. But you can just use one shape and go up chromatically if you want, it just won't sound that good. :)

But if you check out "Serrana" by Jason Becker, you should find that he plays all the 3 major shapes at the beginning, but in Dmaj, instead of Cmaj like I wrote for you. So everything's the same but 2 frets up. Then he switches to Gmaj, so then you should see them same shapes again but in different places because he's outlining different chords.

repcak
05-22-2006, 05:14 PM
i know that all the shapes on one line are the same... i talked only about the shapes, as you guessed. i slowly realize how much theory is covered in this arpeggios and what wonderful things you can too... endlessly :D

do you know franke gambale? a lot of ppl say he is the best in sweep-picking technique!

taken from his homepage:
The above explanation is accurate for when one picks every note. Of course guitarists nowadays are combining sweeping, tapping, hammer-ons and pull-offs all at the same time. Sweeping is incredibly efficient and doesn’t waste any picking-hand motion. It enables different kinds of phrases to be played on the guitar. Two-octave arpeggios are a breeze once sweeping is mastered.

I believe the popular thought until I came along was that this technique was not possible. Lots of guitarists played one or two small sweep licks but that was it. I believed in it and developed it diligently over the last 22 years ( after 10 years of alternate picking prior ). I strongly urge all guitar players to develop a good sweep picking technique to incorporate it into their playing. It is as important as alternate picking and tapping and should be part of any good guitarists playing arsenal.

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:19 PM
i know that all the shapes on one line are the same... i talked only about the shapes, as you guessed. i slowly realize how much theory is covered in this arpeggios and what wonderful things you can too... endlessly :D

do you know franke gambale? a lot of ppl say he is the best in sweep-picking technique!

taken from his homepage:
The above explanation is accurate for when one picks every note. Of course guitarists nowadays are combining sweeping, tapping, hammer-ons and pull-offs all at the same time. Sweeping is incredibly efficient and doesn’t waste any picking-hand motion. It enables different kinds of phrases to be played on the guitar. Two-octave arpeggios are a breeze once sweeping is mastered.

I believe the popular thought until I came along was that this technique was not possible. Lots of guitarists played one or two small sweep licks but that was it. I believed in it and developed it diligently over the last 22 years ( after 10 years of alternate picking prior ). I strongly urge all guitar players to develop a good sweep picking technique to incorporate it into their playing. It is as important as alternate picking and tapping and should be part of any good guitarists playing arsenal.

Yeah theory helps tremendously in this subject.

Frank Gambale I do know yeah but his style of playing, and his music doesn't appeal to me, I like to listen to diatonic music. And alot of the time, he doesn't just do normal maj/min shapes, it's all parts of scales/modes joined together to create something else, and it might only be on 3 strings. He uses sweep picking to cross strings, which can also be referred to as Economy Picking.

I'd say if you want inspiration for this type of sweeping, Rusty Cooley is your man.
There's people that hate him becase "all he does is shred" but you cannot deny his chops are incredible.

http://rustycooley.com

Find lessons, then videos, then watch, then cry. :)

If you want to be kicked in the face some more, watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97LTj-_8at0&search=Rusty%20Cooley

repcak
05-22-2006, 05:25 PM
i know Rusty Cooley - who doesn't know him? ;)
and i'm one of these who don't like him, but i didn't know that he has lessons on his homepage... i will check them out, but not today. once again its getting late ... :upset:

oh... you have to pay for the lessons... eh... :upset: - ah, some are free....

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:30 PM
Yeah he gives lessons in his hometown.
He does columns on:
www.insaneguitar.com
www.chopsfromhell.com

too I think. Plus, you'll find a load of other sweep picking stuff.

Here's Serrana if you haven't heard it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r487Hc9ENuo&search=jason%20becker

AB underconstruction
05-22-2006, 05:32 PM
hey ducran i have a question i have been trying to play the melody to slient night bodom night wehre it goes from like 15 fret on the 5th string and then he goes right down to the igh 2 string so fast? i mean help please and also if you know of any bodoms olos with great fast alt picking

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:37 PM
'Sup Acid bath.

You mean sweep picking don't you?

repcak
05-22-2006, 05:40 PM
Serrena is great... i want to be able to play it someday in 1000years :D

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Yeah, some advice, do not rush it. To be honest, I wouldn't advise even learning it yet since it's ALL shapes put together. Learn the shapes, and get them good first, it's the most important thing.

Shadows
05-22-2006, 05:45 PM
Hey Mitch?

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:46 PM
'Sup.

AA-12
05-22-2006, 05:47 PM
I've been learning Serrana for like 4 months. Got it to around 4 bpm \m/

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:48 PM
I bet many people have taken great offense to your avatar.

Shadows
05-22-2006, 05:48 PM
'Sup.
I love you. :)

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 05:49 PM
You too!

AA-12
05-22-2006, 05:50 PM
I bet many people have taken great offense to your avatar.
As always.

Shadows
05-22-2006, 05:51 PM
You too!
:) <3 !

NP: Blind Guardian

repcak
05-22-2006, 06:03 PM
@Mitch: did i said i will learn it now? no... in some years. its the same with "foul body autopsy" ... in some years.

@Captain Frank Castle: about your avatar: visit the CoB-thread tomorrow... i would like to say something... but not now.. now i will go to bed. i will make my statement tomorrow

ps.: what does 'sup mean?

I'm Charming
05-22-2006, 06:03 PM
As always.



yhahhahahahhahaha. I just noticed that. Funny but tasteless avatar. I like.

I'm Charming
05-22-2006, 06:04 PM
@Mitch: did i said i will learn it now? no... in some years. its the same with "foul body autopsy" ... in some years.

@Captain Frank Castle: about your avatar: visit the CoB-thread tomorrow... i would like to say something... but not now.. now i will go to bed. i will make a statement


Sir, beware. he might be going to bed, but ghosts will get you anytime.

AA-12
05-22-2006, 06:04 PM
@Captain Frank Castle: about your avatar: visit the CoB-thread tomorrow... i would like to say something... but not now.. now i will go to bed. i will make a statement
Will do. Please refrain from "it's rude" "tasteless (hi dylan)" "it's wrong" etc. though.

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 06:08 PM
@Mitch: did i said i will learn it now? no... in some years. its the same with "foul body autopsy" ... in some years.

I know, I know. I'm just saying. There's too many sloppy versions of that out there, just because they haven't taken the time to keep it clean.

ps.: what does 'sup mean?

What's up.

What'(s up).

repcak
05-22-2006, 06:13 PM
Sir, beware. he might be going to bed, but ghosts will get you anytime.
hehe... its his last visit on MX, cause i will scare him to death tonight.... :p

I know, I know. I'm just saying. There's too many sloppy versions of that out there, just because they haven't taken the time to keep it clean.

you once mentioned it... and i agree with you... all these youtube videos :rolleyes:

AB underconstruction
05-22-2006, 06:16 PM
'Sup Acid bath.

You mean sweep picking don't you?naw mang dl the tabs

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 06:20 PM
naw mang dl the tabs

yer but u need to yooz shweep pikin ta play em!!

I'm Charming
05-22-2006, 06:21 PM
yer but u need to yooz shweep pikin ta play em!!


hahhaha. I score this bout for Mitch.

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 06:34 PM
Uh?

O wate.

I'm Charming
05-22-2006, 06:42 PM
Uh?

O wate.


Mitch, you owned him.

Shadows Within
05-22-2006, 07:09 PM
I highly doubt this but does warmen have a tab for Return of Salieri?

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 07:10 PM
*Her.

It's "acid bath". She's like a spammer who creates MULTIPLE accounts and makes loads of threads about Joe Satriani, scales and theory.

Shadows Within
05-22-2006, 07:13 PM
*Her.

It's "acid bath". She's like a spammer who creates MULTIPLE accounts and makes loads of threads about Joe Satriani, scales and theory.
that guy was a complete prick

MRDuCran
05-22-2006, 07:16 PM
that guy was a complete prick

lol girl.

I don't think a tab of that Warmen song exists, at least not on the internet.

repcak
05-23-2006, 03:49 PM
i don't know much about you (how old you are f.e.) and what your teacher told you about the WWII. i can imagine that your teachers teach you more about american history, and not european - its ok. the other thing is, that in my eyes you are a young guy (maybe in the middle of your puberty) who starts to learn what life is - girls get your attention. when i was in this age (maybe i am wrong and you are indeed older) most of my friends wanted to show in what they believe (through music, statements, posters, and so on) best example: Che Guevare shirt or poster do show and make the statement: "hey, i'm concerned about the world and Che was cool, so am i"; when you will go to these kids and ask:"tell me something about Che" they will say: "he was a communist, fought in cuba (revolution) and was shot by an soldier (i think) in bolivia" ... thats all! if you ask if they know more, they won't reply. Only a few have really read his biography and know for what he fought for.
Its the same with the WWII and Hitler; maybe you think he's cool, ok - but first of all i want to ask YOU: "What do you know about him?", "Do you really know what he had done?" if you can answer this seriously with YES, than keep your avatar, if not, remove it.

for the case you think you know enough about hitler, but in reality you don't, i will tell you some things about him. first of all: he was not a mr. nice guy and was not cool (joke).
how i said, i don't know what you learnt in school. we in europe have the topic WWII for one year in the 4th grade and then once again for a whole year in the 8th short before the matura exam... so whole 2 years! as you maybe know (my profile) i study "political science" at the university where i learnt once again a lot about the WWII. in summer i was in 'auschwitz' in poland ... and i hope for you, that YOU know EXACTLY what auschwitz is.
Auschwitz was the biggest concentration camp, where over 1.Million humans were murdered. how i said, i was there in summer and made some photos: (you can visit my homepage if you want - www.repcak.tk

picture 1 (http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Bilder/Polen%202005/Polen011.html)
a gas chamber where not only dead corpse were burnt, even humans who still lived (http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Bilder/Polen%202005/Polen013.html)
picture 03 (http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Bilder/Polen%202005/Polen015.html)
picture 04 (http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Bilder/Polen%202005/Polen017.html)
last one (http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Bilder/Polen%202005/panorama302.html) -> in this picture you will see how big auschwitz was! (its a 360° picture i made), imagine that everywhere where you see chimneys there once were barracks!! and now there is grass, but 50years ago there was only dust and earth everywhere... try to imagine it!

most of the ppl there haven't survived the first 2months... most died within some few weeks! and not because of gas chambers - no through hard, inhuman work and hardly food. they worked the whole day and got only a piece of bread at the end of the day.

the hairs of the ppl were used to make boots and the material you have inside your pillow!!
here some more authentic pictures:
pic 01 (http://www.leksikon.org/images/auschwitz.jpg)
pic 02 (http://www.denktag.de/denktag2002/denktag2002/77_Remember/images/bildergalerie/gefangene-auschwitz.gif)
pic 03 (http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Maidan02.jpg)
pic 04 (http://hsgm.free.fr/recent/belzec.gif)
pic 05 (http://hsgm.free.fr/recent/auschwitz.jpg)
pic 06 (http://hsgm.free.fr/recent/liberationbuchenwald.jpg)
pic 07 (http://hsgm.free.fr/recent/mauthausen2.jpg)
pic 08 - one of the gas chambers 'in use' (http://hsgm.free.fr/rajoutsguerre/camps/auschwitz3.gif)
pic 09 (http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.history.data.jpg/35506.jpg)
pic 10 (http://www.gohrien.de/buchenwald.jpg) - in this picture you can see how much place they had for sleep, toilet, etc.

so tell me now: do you still think that Hilter is cool? if not, remove your avatar please, thanks.

the best thing you inform yourself about WWII, Hitler and concentration camps (Auschwitz) on the internet (wikipedia)

AA-12
05-23-2006, 04:40 PM
edited for arguements unnecessary

repcak
05-23-2006, 04:42 PM
what do you mean by "reality" ... and wich facts?
... and pls don't tell me you believe in conspiracies

AA-12
05-23-2006, 04:45 PM
edited for arguements unnecessary

repcak
05-23-2006, 04:47 PM
your're the dumbest person i met in my life... i knew that persons believe this, but i never met one.

.. and yes, Area 51 - there are aliens;
Elvis still lives and the US never landed on the moon. :lol:

AA-12
05-23-2006, 04:49 PM
edited for arguements unnecessary

repcak
05-23-2006, 04:51 PM
About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.

if you believe this ****: where are the other 5,500,000 jews? taken by alien to another planet?
so much nonsense i read on this page, incredible... for each of the question there are 1000x better proofed facts than this conspiracy that gas chambers never exist. in 2months you have holidays, right? buy i fly-ticket to krakow, then take the bus to Auschwitz - do it!!

Can bodies be burned in pits?
No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
my aunt, was burnt to ash after her suicide

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 04:51 PM
My aunt went to church with a german who was in the camps and witnessed alot of it,hes dead now tho

AA-12
05-23-2006, 04:54 PM
edited for arguements unnecessary

repcak
05-23-2006, 04:56 PM
5million were never there? do you know how much jews lived in europe before the WWII? a lot !! after WWII only a few... don't tell me that 5million jews were never there!

you should read books written by historians not by nazis

Shadows Within
05-23-2006, 05:00 PM
It's because the other 5 million were never there. They sure do love to blow it out of the water though for sympathy.

Hence where they said in PITS.
you should see how much of an idiot you sound right now...

AA-12
05-23-2006, 05:00 PM
Look at this:

584,549 MORE jews in 1949 than in 1940

Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000

World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"

World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000

National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000

March 24, 1933, jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 jews worldwide

World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"

World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world jewish population = 15,753,633

World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359

World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089 ("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")

World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000

Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450, "Jewish figures include all Jews whether members of a synagogue or not"

World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of jews -- 16,820,850

World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,000

America Europe Asia Africa Oceania Total Jewish Population

1938 5,343,319 8,939,608 839,809 598,339 27,016 15,748,091

1948 5,198,219 9,372,666 572,930 542,869 26,954 15,763,638


http://christianparty.net/holocaust.htm

repcak
05-23-2006, 05:12 PM
thats all brainwashing... i would like to know what kind of ppl write this nonsense (amateurs, nazis, racists?) - every serious professor who studies history can disprove all the facts.

about conspiracies: so many conspiracies exist in the world and they are sooo easy to make. too easy... easier than reality is.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 05:14 PM
http://www.stormfront.org/revision/questions.html

This sums it up. If you don't believe what it says, google it.



I was on your side untill you posted that link.

I've never seen such idiocy in my life. That's worse than the collective IQ of totse.

That should speak volumes.

repcak
05-23-2006, 05:16 PM
at least one who is on my side! thank you dylan

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Is he saying that none of it ever happened?

Nepenthe
05-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Is it really necessary to have this argument in the COB thread? Honestly, if you really think it's necessary to fight over this, take it to AIM.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 05:22 PM
Is he saying that none of it ever happened?
I never said that at all.

Anyway, i'm done with this. I have what I know/what I believe, and you have your own.

repcak
05-23-2006, 05:27 PM
and i don't believe i can bring you to rethink it and to realize that its nonsense

Nepenthe
05-23-2006, 05:30 PM
and i don't believe i can bring you to rethink it and to realize that its nonsense

So it should just stop. I don't mean to be an *** here, but your crusading against him is no better than anything he's doing. He has his beliefs, you've your's. No one is going to change their mind, so there's absolutely no logical reason to be arguing about it.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 05:30 PM
Haha, I don't let others form my opinions on things/change them. Also, it's not nonsense at all, so stop calling me and idiot and acting like you know everything about the subject. I'm not trying to fight you on this.

EDIT: To repcak

EDIT 2: Thanks Quorth.

repcak
05-23-2006, 05:36 PM
So it should just stop. I don't mean to be an *** here, but your crusading against him is no better than anything he's doing. He has his beliefs, you've your's. No one is going to change their mind, so there's absolutely no logical reason to be arguing about it.
to be serious i started it only because i hoped to change his mind and to change his avatar... but without result.

for me the topic is over... we can get back to CoB again

Nepenthe
05-23-2006, 05:37 PM
Anyone else like the Inearthed demos better than the CoB full lengths?

(And now I leave the thread :lol: )

repcak
05-23-2006, 05:40 PM
no... cob is far better :p

Nepenthe
05-23-2006, 05:41 PM
Eh, I actually like the Inearthed stuff a bit more. I think they should really use some acoustics in CoB. Not alot, just on a song or two.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 05:45 PM
Eh, I actually like the Inearthed stuff a bit more. I think they should really use some acoustics in CoB. Not alot, just on a song or two.
Same.

Guys, what CoB songs should I work on today on guitar?

(repcak, can we just agree to disagree? I don't hate you at all, and I dislike having problems with you.)

AB underconstruction
05-23-2006, 05:45 PM
ok repcake just to get your facts straight i was their i saw the jews die and this is a cob thread so take your **** somewhere else

repcak
05-23-2006, 05:53 PM
@AB underconstruciont: you are not a CoB regular... you're not allowed to tell me what i can post and what not.

@Captain: i disagree with yourself, and i still don't like your avatar, but this is a forum and the CoB thread. so i will try to ignore your beliefs and we can act as before. and i don't hate you either - i just don't agree with you

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 05:54 PM
i hate all of you

repcak
05-23-2006, 06:01 PM
:rolleyes:
why? whats the matter?

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 06:01 PM
idk lol twas a joke my friend

repcak
05-23-2006, 06:04 PM
oh... ok
/me is laughin (of myself)


hey, where have you been? i haven't seen you for a long time... so long that i forgot your name :upset:

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 06:08 PM
if your talking to me,which i think you are then ive still been here,i come on everyday its just i dont play an instrument so mostly i dont have anything to say because i dont know what all of you are talking about :( ,but when the occasion arises then i speak its not much but its something lol,names Amanda by the way

repcak
05-23-2006, 06:09 PM
ah, yes mandy... i remember. so its my fault that you don't post so often... i'm sorry

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 06:15 PM
no its not anyones fault except my own,i really need to get a guitar,i was planning on it actually just never did dont know why.But like i said i come on everyday just dont most as much anymore,its ok tho :-)

repcak
05-23-2006, 06:17 PM
then go and buy one tomorrow... a cheap guitar for 200€ and an amp for 150€ should be enough for the beginning. thats the price i paid for my equipment.

gn8

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-23-2006, 06:19 PM
*looks stupidly at screen* I have no money lol

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 06:46 PM
*looks stupidly at screen* I have no money lol


Just don't get something with Floyd Rose.

Floyd Rose is hell. Plain and simple.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 06:47 PM
My whammy pedal > floyd

Shadows
05-23-2006, 06:47 PM
It's all personal preference. She should obviously at least play something before she buys it. Personally, I love my FR.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 06:49 PM
Edit: String Through Body

Shadows
05-23-2006, 06:49 PM
I love my fixed bridge too.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 06:51 PM
String Through > Fixed Bridge > Floyd Rose IMO

Shadows
05-23-2006, 06:52 PM
I love my SR and FR equally I guess. They both feel good, but one stays in tune better while the other is quicker to tune.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 06:54 PM
String Through > Fixed Bridge > Floyd Rose IMO


err. My bad. I meant string through body. Isn't that the same as a fixed bridge?

Shadows
05-23-2006, 06:55 PM
Technically no. I keep calling my SR a fixed too, for some reason.

Nepenthe
05-23-2006, 06:57 PM
String Through > Fixed Bridge > Floyd Rose IMO

QFT.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 06:57 PM
Technically no. I keep calling my SR a fixed too, for some reason.


Alright w/e


My Ibanez has string through body. I like that

MRDuCran
05-23-2006, 06:57 PM
My knowledge of how to setup a FR > people that don't and fixed bridges.

Shadows
05-23-2006, 06:58 PM
Your arrogance > everyone else's

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:01 PM
Your arrogance > everyone else's


Hey, I wouldn't talk back to Mitch sir!

He's got plenty of perfect recordings.

I'm still waiting for any of yours.

Shadows
05-23-2006, 07:02 PM
Jeez, take it easy.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:03 PM
Jeez, take it easy.


Sooo! You'll have Universal Mind perfectly recorded & played up ITT tonight.

Great!

cya then

MRDuCran
05-23-2006, 07:09 PM
Your arrogance > everyone else's

:eek:


Dude stop spamming you ****ing cunt!~~!

I lol'd.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:10 PM
:eek:




I lol'd.


zomg I'm a witty MXer

Mitch- Any riffs you can reccomend for practising triplets?

Shadows
05-23-2006, 07:11 PM
^^ Hourglass! That's the song along with other LoG that boosted my triplets greatly.

:eek:
I was just lol'ing with you guys, I didn't think it would be taken so seriously. :(

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:13 PM
I don't like Hourglass. Well, it's okay.

I've been working on getting that open riff in Raining Blood into triplets. I'd just trem picked it before.

Shadows
05-23-2006, 07:14 PM
If you can get Silent night, Bodom Night into triplets like it should be, bravo.

MRDuCran
05-23-2006, 07:18 PM
^^YEs!!!!!

zomg I'm a witty MXer

Mitch- Any riffs you can reccomend for practising triplets?

Silent Night, Bodom Night!!!

That main riff, the verse, the lead part are all evenly spaced, accurately placed triplets. Except most people do just trem pick as fast as possible.

Um.

Deadnight Warrior
Towards Dead End intro rhythm
Lamb of God - Laid to Rest
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn
Lamb of God - 11th Hour

I wish I had my old hard drive, I could triple the size of that list just by looking through all my powertab/guitar pro files.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:23 PM
^^YEs!!!!!



Silent Night, Bodom Night!!!

That main riff, the verse, the lead part are all evenly spaced, accurately placed triplets. Except most people do just trem pick as fast as possible.

Um.

Deadnight Warrior
Towards Dead End intro rhythm
Lamb of God - Laid to Rest
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn
Lamb of God - 11th Hour

I wish I had my old hard drive, I could triple the size of that list just by looking through all my powertab/guitar pro files.



I've been messing with the start of Silent Night Bodom Night.

I have a feeling it'll take a lot of practice but it''ll be really worth it.

I already notice a HUGE quality difference and I havn't even come close to perfection.

(the slayer riff). It just sounds MUCh neater and cleaner.

MRDuCran
05-23-2006, 07:29 PM
Do you mean even triplets, or triples, as in gallop?

'Cause you asked for triplets, but Raining Blood is a reverse gallop.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 07:30 PM
lolol I need to record SN,BN. It's not really that hard.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:35 PM
Do you mean even triplets, or triples, as in gallop?

'Cause you asked for triplets, but Raining Blood is a reverse gallop.



I was talking about all those things.

What is a reverse gallop and how do I pick that?

AA-12
05-23-2006, 07:37 PM
Hail Happy Hitler.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:39 PM
Hail Happy Hitler.


88 :p 8=happy 8= hitler

AA-12
05-23-2006, 07:40 PM
Hahaha, nice. Or you could do 888.

MRDuCran
05-23-2006, 07:44 PM
lolol I need to record SN,BN. It's not really that hard.

*waits*

I didn't say it was hard, I'm just saying I've never heard a decent version of it, or any Bodom song as I've mentioned before. ESPECIALLY wiht youtube. *cringes*

I was talking about all those things.

What is a reverse gallop and how do I pick that?

You have Guitar Pro, check it:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=22202DD01A4A1FDC

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:44 PM
Hahaha, nice. Or you could do 888.


Very smooth.


Zieg heil!!!

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 07:45 PM
*waits*

I didn't say it was hard, I'm just saying I've never heard a decent version of it, or any Bodom song as I've mentioned before. ESPECIALLY wiht youtube. *cringes*



You have Guitar Pro, check it:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=22202DD01A4A1FDC


Thank you good sir!


Edit:. I was basically playing a reverse gallop on the Slayer.

I know the difference between triplets & gallop.

Triplets, I was talking about SNBN & such.

AA-12
05-23-2006, 07:55 PM
*waits*

I didn't say it was hard, I'm just saying I've never heard a decent version of it, or any Bodom song as I've mentioned before. ESPECIALLY wiht youtube. *cringes*

I 100% guarantee you that mine will be as good as the original, minus the exact tone.

I'm Charming
05-23-2006, 08:11 PM
I 100% guarantee you that mine will be as good as the original, minus the exact tone.



/ is waiting

AA-12
05-23-2006, 10:17 PM
:-\

I tried to record but the recording program couldn't accept guitar playing that was so amazing. Sorry :-\

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 07:51 AM
whats so hard about triplets :confused:


what speed is it?

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 09:31 AM
About 220bpm.

Dude wtf, stop being a ****, if you can't play it just admit it, if you can, then prove it.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 09:32 AM
About 220bpm.

Dude wtf, stop being a ****, if you can't play it just admit it, if you can, then prove it.


damn, 220 is too fast for me :lol:


DuCran: what is he "claiming" to?

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 09:37 AM
To be able to play Silent Night, Bodom night perfectly all the way through as good as the album version...

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 09:39 AM
To be able to play Silent Night, Bodom night perfectly all the way through as good as the album version...


you and I know its a BS claim. Im not sure why you are getting a little bent :confused:

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 09:42 AM
Well he often claims he can play everything, it's just frustrating. If I knew he could, then fair enough, but if people just go around saying sh!t is easy without proving it, it's pointless.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 09:44 AM
Well he often claims he can play everything, it's just frustrating. If I knew he could, then fair enough, but if people just go around saying sh!t is easy without proving it, it's pointless.


thats basically what im saying bro. I dont think a single person in this thread thinks hes better than you. Even though I havent listened to many of your recordings, its obvious that you are better in the way you conduct yourself alone.

True, its an outlandish claim with no backing, but no one believes it for a second.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:03 AM
Yeah I suppose.

He owes us all a video of the intro to Towards Dead End, some Nerophagist stuff, now the recording of SN,BN.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 10:05 AM
well, as you stated, its never gonna happen. As long as hes aware we think hes full of sh!t, i wouldnt get worked up over it...

you still pwn him :lol:

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:13 AM
Eh I'm not sure. I never like to say just incase ya know.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 10:14 AM
Eh I'm not sure. I never like to say just incase ya know.

in most cases, sh!t talking solves the problem. You either make fun of him till he shuts up, or he actually backs up his statements. Considering you are the only one to have evidence to back up any said claim, its fair to say hes full of sh!t, till he proves otherwise

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:24 AM
Yeah I can agree with that.

But this post makes me do this: :confused:

I 100% guarantee you that mine will be as good as the original, minus the exact tone.

:-\

I tried to record but the recording program couldn't accept guitar playing that was so amazing. Sorry :-\

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 10:26 AM
theres no fukking WAY that if he wanted to record it bad enough, it wouldnt get done. As you said, hes made a lot of claims, and backed up nothing. I think its fair to say just about anything.


here look, i can do it too



kromatiks at 360bpm, 16ths are a breeze :lol:


doesnt mean im not talking out of my arse

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:33 AM
lol Yeah if he can do it, then he would. I know I certainly would. In fact, I might learn it properly and practise it, the correct way.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 10:38 AM
im learning bed or razors the correct way. Im not a man for bragging myself, so even if i thought i could play it better than how alexi did, i wouldnt go around making claims with giving my recorded works...


i tend to not record because im still at a point where im not happy with my playing ya know. I think hes just trying to impress people

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:46 AM
Yeah Bed of Razors is cool. Would you mind directing me to the tab you're using?

It's just the last melody part is pretty tricky the play according to the tab I have, and I haven't got round to re-positioning it. The solo also has bad fingerings but with a bit of work, it'd be rather easy.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 10:51 AM
im using one out of the huge guitar pro database i have...


id actually have to write down those parts, since i have no way of bringing it in (broken iPOD)


if you tell me what section you are referring to, id do it :thumb:

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:56 AM
Actually, I just checked one on mx and it looks easier than the powertab I used to have, so I might re-learn it that way later tonight. I'd probably record it too if I had a better tone.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 10:57 AM
yea, the tab i was using had some weird sections. I didnt really focus on them too much

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 10:59 AM
Go to the one on mx, and choose the top one with 5 stars, looks good enough.As I said, much better than the powertab.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 11:02 AM
ooo, ill have to print that bad boy out, thanks :thumb:


im working on about 4-5 songs currently.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:04 AM
No problem.

What songs are they?

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 11:07 AM
as of now :


Megadeath - Symphony
CoB - Bed or Razors
Derek and the Dominoes - Layla
Dream Theater - YTSE Jam
TOoL - Vicarious
Alice in Chains - We die Young


Im a bit of a perfectionist. I got sick of doing straight up exercises for a while, so its a nice break

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 11:09 AM
Symphony of Destruction I'm guessing.

I learn YTSE jam once, just the last part, really cool.
Layla you'll have down in about 15 mins!

Not sure about the rest though. Good luck!

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 11:12 AM
Symphony of Destruction I'm guessing.

I learn YTSE jam once, just the last part, really cool.
Layla you'll have down in about 15 mins!

Not sure about the rest though. Good luck!


none of them are really TOO challenging, barring the YTSE jam solo that i cant really touch.


The layla was good for bending technique practice, which i hadnt worked on too much. Basically, i got the main theme down in 10 minutes. The rest is just memorization.


I kinda like learning a bunch at once. It seems the more i do this, the faster i can retain the information, and the quicker i can actually memorize it.

I've kinda toned done the challenging shizz for the most part. I need to start working on rhythm hardcore, so im kinda going that route for a little while

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 12:36 PM
hey DuCran, is this the tab you were talking about


http://mxtabs.net/tab_versions.php?path=Guitar,c,5233,Children+Of+Bo dom,Bed+Of+Razors,46473


does he really slide to the 7th, as opposed to just playing the 12th fret on the next string :confused:

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 12:43 PM
I doubt that, I looked past that to the end section which is all up at the 19th fret area.

Parts of that sol look unrealistic, I'll re-position a powertab later to how I will learn it and then upload it.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 12:46 PM
Holy jesus, you guys took my perfection post wayyyyyyyy too serious, haha.
To be able to play Silent Night, Bodom night perfectly all the way through as good as the album version...
I said the intro.
thats basically what im saying bro. I dont think a single person in this thread thinks hes better than you. Even though I havent listened to many of your recordings, its obvious that you are better in the way you conduct yourself alone.I may be egotistical, but with things like that i'm just joking.

Haha, scroll up and down page 933. It's a Hitler fest.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 12:46 PM
nice nice...


im taking it slow. I have a problem with trying to get it up to speed right away, and i notice little mistakes. Im trying to distance myself from that habbit

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 02:02 PM
Holy jesus, you guys took my perfection post wayyyyyyyy too serious, haha.


Only because I wanted to hear it. I do enjoy listening to peoples covers of CoB songs and then laughing because they haven't taken the time to get it sounding good before recording it. Obviously, if someone mentions being able to play it perfectly I'd look forward to it.


Bananas

I'm guessing you have powertab??

If not, I can do Guitar Pro.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 02:11 PM
17k postsssssss \m/

I promise i'll record the intro riff for you Mitch.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 02:34 PM
I'm guessing you have powertab??

If not, I can do Guitar Pro.


i have both, at home

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 02:39 PM
17k postsssssss \m/

I promise i'll record the intro riff for you Mitch.

Sounds good. :thumb:

i have both, at home.

I did this quickly. Most of the positions are how I'd play it. I can't be bothered to practise it now 'cause I'm freaking tired.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=384A280571DA0C14

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 02:41 PM
fair enough...


i cant even look at a guitar for another 2 hours :lol:

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 02:50 PM
Where do you work?

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 03:19 PM
its for an insurance company. Im actually going back to school (uni) to teach music...


either at a school, or guitar. Hopefully ill be out of this bitch ASAP, but until then, ill be MX'ing my arse off :lol:

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 03:40 PM
Yeah I noticed you post alot at work, must be an easy job.

Good luck with the teaching, I was thinking of doing that too at one point.
I actually have no idea what I want to do with my life, except for play live gigs, which doesn't really pay great unless you're big and the chances of getting big are pretty slim. Other than that, it's teaching as I said, but I'm not sure when to start, I still don't think I'm ready. There's nothing else I want to do.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 03:42 PM
well, it was either do music, or make money programming. I really wouldnt enjoy the latter, and would just be doing it for the money. I realized that rationale is rather fukked up, and decided to go with my passion.


As far as my work goes, i basically just multi-task my arse off so as not to be bored with the repetitive nature of it

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by programming, but I considered music tech as an option for money. There's a guy at the stuidio we play at for college and it's a REALLY bad studio, it's not even funny. But this guy is 18, and he has been asked to be the engineer in a quarter-of-a-million pound studio. He would be rich in a year, he already has a decent car that must have cost him a bit, plus insurance and all that other car related nonsense.

It kinda makes me sick to hear stuff like that, I have to worry about not spending too much on a Cd or whatever so I can buy food to keep me alive. When I finishe college I'll have to get a job to pay my mum for some benifits crap, and decide what to do. Trying to earn a living by being a musician alone is fukking hard.

Kurrpt
05-24-2006, 03:53 PM
totally agree man.


I meant programming, as in the people who write the "code" for either websites, databases, mainframes, etc. Basically, its learning computer languages to get the computer to do complex tasks. I did it for 5 years. I dont want to do it any more :lol:


My only reason for keeping that option alive for so long was for the money alone. I've realized, I would rather be poor and enjoy my life's work, than to have money doing something I don't fully enjoy. If that means ill be poor for the rest of my life, its a small price to pay for happiness

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 04:02 PM
Oh that programming. The most advanced stuff I know is:

size = 5 [b ] [/b ] etc lawl.

I think with your constant talk about maintaining accuracy, and aiming for that during practise as opposed to speed would make you a great teacher. I'd also do that too but you seem to know how to explain it much better. My words would just be the same old crap that everyone on message boards say. Start slow, keep it clean, get faster etc, I'd prefer to demonstrate.

But yeah, if you get the chance, you should definately try it at least.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 04:52 PM
anyone have the guitar pro tab for downfall?

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 05:18 PM
Downfall (http://tabs.exz.nu/tabs/Children%20Of%20Bodom%20-%20Downfall%20(2).gp4)

Also, ultimate guitar has all the GP tabs.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 05:52 PM
Downfall (http://tabs.exz.nu/tabs/Children%20Of%20Bodom%20-%20Downfall%20(2).gp4)

Also, ultimate guitar has all the GP tabs.


Yup. Metal tabs has a few

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 05:55 PM
Eh, not really a fan of that site tbh.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 06:16 PM
i can finally learn the keyboard stuff now.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 06:20 PM
Eh, not really a fan of that site tbh.


It used to be crap tabs. It's gotten really good. The pending tab forum on the site has so many great tabs yet to be posted.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 06:25 PM
Does anyone know how to print off only certain parts on guitar pro because i just want to print of keyboard, guitar and bass seperate.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 06:27 PM
Does anyone know how to print off only certain parts on guitar pro because i just want to print of keyboard, guitar and bass seperate.


That part that's in the window, is the part printed.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 06:29 PM
^Yep

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 06:45 PM
^Yep


When we post back to back. You gotta read our users names, since it appears one of us is triple/more posting.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 06:47 PM
Yeah, I keep reading posts and thinking wtf I didn't write that.

MRDuCran
05-24-2006, 06:47 PM
I think you 2 have scared off Repcak with those avatars.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 06:47 PM
Yeah, I keep reading posts and thinking wtf I didn't write that.


lollercaust

So, what would hitler think of CoB?

I think you 2 have scared off Repcak with those avatars.

I doubt it. He's still on some. He's never on 24/7 like some of us are. cough me cough.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 06:48 PM
Hitler may like them, but I doubt it overall.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 06:49 PM
he would hate them because there next to poland.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 06:52 PM
Hitler may like them, but I doubt it overall.


He'd pay teh jewz Bodom Beach Terror

zomg. Okay that wasn't nice

AA-12
05-24-2006, 06:52 PM
Hatejew Deathroll

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 06:57 PM
Hatejew Deathroll


^^ I like. Good one.

Everytime Jews Die

Are You Dead Yet? (no title change needed)

Triple Jew Hammerblow

Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Jew

How about those ?

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:05 PM
You two are stupid, you make this thread horrible

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:08 PM
You two are stupid, you make this thread horrible



^^ Your comment ruined it.

plzleavekthxbai

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:09 PM
Im glad my stupid ****ing comment ruined it,you should take your **** elsewhere

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:12 PM
Im glad my stupid ****ing comment ruined it,you should take your **** elsewhere



lawl. Please enlighten yourself....


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



So knock yourself out there champ!

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:15 PM
Go **** yourself how bout that

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:16 PM
Go **** yourself how bout that


CON STI SIT SITUTTTION > your whinny attitude

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:18 PM
Naa im just stateing how stupid u two are with your avies and your comments about jews,this is a cob thread not a thread for **** like that,yes when i post its mostly spam i do admit but its not stuff like that

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:20 PM
Naa im just stateing how stupid u two are with your avies and your comments about jews,this is a cob thread not a thread for **** like that,yes when i post its mostly spam i do admit but its not stuff like that


Stupid is relative. Many people would agree with both sides. That's a fact. Putting aside "who is right", that is.

It's your opinion and our government backs freedom of speech. So deal with it.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:22 PM
Maybe so but take your freedom of speech to msn and have one of your convos there

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:23 PM
Maybe so but take your freedom of speech to msn and have one of your convos there

lol. My internet doesn't work. can't be on MSN therefor. :confused:

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:23 PM
hmmm intresting

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:24 PM
wow this is the most ive posted in a while btw :thumb: i think i might feel a bit popular

AA-12
05-24-2006, 07:24 PM
See, this is why we need another Holocaust :-p

Anyway, here's an uncommon question. Favorite Bodom song drumwise?

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:25 PM
hmmm intresting



I want a cookie! gimme gimme

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:25 PM
ooo ooo i like needled 24/7, i think anyways it seems like theres another one in my mind i just cant think of it,i mostly listen to guitars so id actually have to listen in order to know honestly :-(

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:26 PM
See, this is why we need another Holocaust :-p

Anyway, here's an uncommon question. Favorite Bodom song drumwise?

A good question to open discussion. I'd have to say the following are

Everytime Jews Die

Are You Dead Yet? (no title change needed)

Triple Jew Hammerblow

Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Jew

How about you?

Which tracks make your blood boil? :p

AA-12
05-24-2006, 07:30 PM
:lol: Nice.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 07:31 PM
:angry: your not funny i hope you know,your just annoying always have been tbh

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:32 PM
:lol: Nice.


Auschwitz After Midnight is amazing as well

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:33 PM
:angry: your not funny i hope you know,your just annoying always have been tbh


You used to think I was chiillll. At your you said that when you were looking up at me. Which is it

Sleepy
05-24-2006, 07:34 PM
A good question to open discussion. I'd have to say the following are

Everytime Jews Die

Are You Dead Yet? (no title change needed)

Triple Jew Hammerblow

Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Jew

How about you?

Which tracks make your blood boil? :p

Holy ****.

LAWL

DOUBLE LAWL

Despite the fact that I find your newfound obsession with Jewbashing and Hitler appalling, that was ****ing hysterical.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:37 PM
Auschwitz After Midnight pwns though. The leads so melodic yet tearing like blades. The drumming is just pulse pounding like a hammer.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 07:42 PM
Despite the fact that I find your newfound obsession with Jewbashing and Hitler appalling, that was ****ing hysterical.
You can never have enough Jewbashing.

Sleepy
05-24-2006, 07:43 PM
You can never have enough Jewbashing.

Not when you live in the Jew capital of the western world.

Las Vegas.

Seriously, there's enough rich Jews there to cram the concentration camps full for months.

:eek:

Oh God...I'm being infected by your charismatic Nazism!

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:44 PM
Not when you live in the Jew capital of the western world.

Las Vegas.

Seriously, there's enough rich Jews there to cram the concentration camps full for months.

:eek:

Oh God...I'm being infected by your charismatic Nazism!


They call me, I'm Charming for a reason. As you can see, I'm a rather influential poster too.

You can never have enough Jewbashing.


Q: Why do jews like working as bakers?
A: The oven is already home to them. :p

Sleepy
05-24-2006, 07:49 PM
They call me, I'm Charming for a reason. As you can see, I'm a rather influential poster too.

There's a scary thought.


Q: Why do jews like working as bakers?
A: The oven is already home to them. :p

That's awful.

That's terrible.

That's inhumane and immature.

I lawl'd so hard at that.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I think I would hate that place. I was thinking of vacationing there too.

EDIT: Vegas.

Sleepy
05-24-2006, 07:53 PM
Yeah, I think I would hate that place. I was thinking of vacationing there too.

It's actually a pretty nice town, but it's all opinion. I love it there, and I miss it terribly.

If you can tolerate Jews, go to Vegas.

If you can tolerate Mexicans, go to San Diego.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:54 PM
There's a scary thought.



That's awful.

That's terrible.

That's inhumane and immature.

I lawl'd so hard at that.


What do you ******s & jews & bitchs have in common?

Well it's a common question in this world.

******= a black person who picks my cotton
Jew= stuck up useless bafoon
Bitch=Female Dog

So when we combine the three, we'll see something like this.
A black female with a yamaca.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:55 PM
It's actually a pretty nice town, but it's all opinion. I love it there, and I miss it terribly.

If you can tolerate Jews, go to Vegas.

If you can tolerate Mexicans, go to San Diego.


If you can tolerate neither, reincarnate teh holocaust

AA-12
05-24-2006, 07:56 PM
Looks like i'm going the reincarnation route.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 07:57 PM
Looks like i'm going the reincarnation route.


I'm behind you all the way.


We should have an illegal alien special.

Bring your illlegals, gas 2 and the 3rd is on us

Sleepy
05-24-2006, 08:04 PM
I'm behind you all the way.


We should have an illegal alien special.

Bring your illlegals, gas 2 and the 3rd is on us

Meh, I am leaving this thread, considering how many Jews and beaners I'm friends with.

I'll let you two Nazis continue with your racial circle jerk, though.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 08:05 PM
Meh, I am leaving this thread, considering how many Jews and beaners I'm friends with.

I'll let you two Nazis continue with your racial circle jerk, though.


kthxbai

King_Of_Terrors
05-24-2006, 08:11 PM
Charming?

You are a ****ing asshole. I hate you, I always have, and you are the most immature person who is in college. Someone your age should know better, since it is sick and twisted. Racial jokes are not allowed in R&M, and neither are triple posts. So please do us a favor and shut up, or leave.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 08:15 PM
Finnally thank you King Of Terrors,someone needs to help me tell him how stupid hes being

King_Of_Terrors
05-24-2006, 08:17 PM
He is indeed extrememly immature and stupid. I used to be a big regular here, but I left because this thread is so lame. It was either Ben's e-flirting with that Laya chick or whatever, or Charming's stupid triple posts.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 08:19 PM
Eh im on everyday just dont post that much myself either,but todays posts were very disappointing i think

King_Of_Terrors
05-24-2006, 08:19 PM
Yeah they were.

Shattered_Future
05-24-2006, 08:40 PM
Just a WEE bit Nazilike, don't ya think? :rolleyes:

Although I did laugh a bit at the oven one...:p

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 08:51 PM
I didnt i think its horrible and immature,adn whoever did or does laugh doesnt know what humor is i dont think or they have a sick sence of humor

Sleepy
05-24-2006, 08:52 PM
I didnt i think its horrible and immature,adn whoever did or does laugh doesnt know what humor is i dont think or they have a sick sence of humor

Don't you think you're taking this a mite bit too seriously? If you don't find it funny, just let it go.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 08:57 PM
I didnt i think its horrible and immature,adn whoever did or does laugh doesnt know what humor is i dont think or they have a sick sence of humor
Someone doesn't get jokes.
Charming?

You are a ****ing asshole. I hate you, I always have, and you are the most immature person who is in college. Someone your age should know better, since it is sick and twisted. Racial jokes are not allowed in R&M, and neither are triple posts. So please do us a favor and shut up, or leave.
He is indeed extrememly immature and stupid. I used to be a big regular here, but I left because this thread is so lame. It was either Ben's e-flirting with that Laya chick or whatever, or Charming's stupid triple posts.
I bet you're the kind of person who loves jews.

Second, you're not a reg. BEN, and the crew are the real regs here.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 09:04 PM
I bet you're the kind of person who loves jews.
No but im sure he doesen't blindly hate them.

and if this **** is supposed to be a joke than its really not funny.

AA-12
05-24-2006, 09:05 PM
Haha, most of it's a joke, but I really do greatly dislike most jews.

Anyway, i'm done.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:05 PM
Charming?

You are a ****ing asshole. I hate you, I always have, and you are the most immature person who is in college. Someone your age should know better, since it is sick and twisted. Racial jokes are not allowed in R&M, and neither are triple posts. So please do us a favor and shut up, or leave.


Lighten the **** up.

I'm not immature. I always conduct myself in a respectful manner when attending my classes.
Sick & twisted is your opinion. Many people will agree and many will not.

You're not a mod so I won't bother caring about the last bit.

You really should check yourself on the "immature" comment. I think you're one of the most immature and among the most elitist as well. Falling just shy of Eggo.

My beliefs, sense of humor or anything about me for that matter, is in fact nothing you should even think about. I don't argue and bash yours. So you have no case there.

Just shut up, I don't take 14 year old kidiots seriously.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 09:08 PM
My beliefs, sense of humor or anything about me for that matter, is in fact nothing you should even think about. I don't argue and bash yours. So you have no case there.
well if you don't want people arguing about your ****ty beliefs then you really shouldn't be bringing them up on a ****ing MUSIC message board.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:08 PM
well if you don't want people arguing about your ****ty beliefs then you really shouldn't be bringing them up on a ****ing MUSIC message board.


I honestly don't care.

You hold yours, I respect that.

I hold mine. I don't care what anyone thinks.

/end

AA-12
05-24-2006, 09:09 PM
"shitty beliefs" hehe

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
05-24-2006, 09:10 PM
Yeah yours are arent they,couldnt agree with u more

Apocalyptic Raids
05-24-2006, 09:11 PM
King Of Terrors, an elitist? You have got to got kidding.

You are such a ****ing poseur.

Shadows Within
05-24-2006, 09:11 PM
I honestly don't care.

You hold yours, I respect that.

I hold mine. I don't care what anyone thinks.

/end
all im saying is stop bringing them up with your stupid little jokes we start to get back to posting about COB and your or frank start goin nazi again if you really wan't to drop it than stop bringing it up.

I'm Charming
05-24-2006, 09:13 PM
King Of Terrors, an elitist? You have got to got kidding.

You are such a ****ing poseur.


At least spell poser right ya ****ing idiot

Apocalyptic Raids
05-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Oh I'm so sorry, I forgot that everyone is supposed to spell like an American :rolleyes:

**** off and die.