Children Of Bodom

[MRDuCran]

That's what I thought.

btw. Welcome.

@ Mitch. Don't whin. It's CoB live and it's pretty good.

I am whining!! Alexi is rubbish!! :p

[Crysiss]

Welcome? what do you mean :confused: and who are you? ex-name?


I was wondering that when he came back.

[Battle Against Time]

It's Charming Dylan.


lol.

Join my forum or die Josh

[Crysiss]

Start a thread advertising it lol.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

wait, when is CoB coming out with a DVD?

[MRDuCran]

Soon.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

name or date?

[Gutter_Phenom]

^ seconds.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

yo does anyone know if dylan was unbanned? wasnt it suppose to be lifted yesterday?

[guitrguy]

yo does anyone know if dylan was unbanned? wasnt it suppose to be lifted yesterday?
It was extended to a week.

[Forlorn Hope]

It was extended to a week.
He's made a secondary account though hasn't he?

(random comment) I got to listen to CoB all day at work today (and yesterday) :D I like my job, even if it doesnt pay much or anything.

Outside of work I haven't really been listening to CoB recently...shame on me! :angry:

[guitrguy]

He's made a secondary account though hasn't he?

(random comment) I got to listen to CoB all day at work today (and yesterday) :D I like my job, even if it doesnt pay much or anything.

Outside of work I haven't really been listening to CoB recently...shame on me! :angry:
The secondry account was perm banned too. What type of job do have that lets you listen to CoB?

[Forlorn Hope]

The secondry account was perm banned too. What type of job do have that lets you listen to CoB?
Local pizza shop in a very small town that I live in. My friend's grandma owns it, so when me and him work there we listen to awesome music while we make pizza etc. Easy job...even if it doesn't pay much.

[guitrguy]

Local pizza shop in a very small town that I live in. My friend's grandma owns it, so when me and him work there we listen to awesome music while we make pizza etc. Easy job...even if it doesn't pay much.
I used to make pizzas. It was in placxe called Mellow Mushroom. Its a hippy pizza chain thats in the south. I would just bring my mp3 player and make pizzas. I teach guitar now and make 4x as much cash.

[AA-12]

Magic Mushrooms?

[guitrguy]

Magic Mushrooms?
Back in the 70's they would put them in their pizzas, but now that its illegal they don't anymore.

[AA-12]

Haha, that's awesome. I imagine those pizzas tasted terrible though.

[guitrguy]

Haha, that's awesome. I imagine those pizzas tasted terrible though.
I notice you're from florida I'm surprised you haven't heard of mellow mushroom.

[AA-12]

I haven't. Is it big here?

[guitrguy]

I haven't. Is it big here?
Ya they are all over florida, I know there are some in Miami and Orlando.

[Crysiss]

Sounds awesome. Now I want to try.

[Battle Against Time]

He's made a secondary account though hasn't he?

(random comment) I got to listen to CoB all day at work today (and yesterday) :D I like my job, even if it doesnt pay much or anything.

Outside of work I haven't really been listening to CoB recently...shame on me! :angry:


Actually. This is my 3rd. account.

[Crysiss]

he speaks tr00f.

Those CoB vidz that were in the daily upload were pretty cool. I finally watched them last night.

[repcak]

i just started to practise the sweeping part in "Towards Dead End" and the pull off seems more difficult than i thought ... the stretch is big - its easy to reach it, but its difficult to pull off at such a distance :upset: and the 22fret is so small that it sounds sloppy ... grml... alexi !! argh
this will take me longer than i thought....

[Kurrpt]

it just requires more focus....


if you discover something that seems like complete unfamiliar territory, i get giddy tbh. Its really the best way to progress. Just take it slow, and stop putting parameters on your practice. You should strive for perfection, not for speed.

[repcak]

if you discover something that seems like complete unfamiliar territory, i get giddy tbh. Its really the best way to progress. Just take it slow, and stop putting parameters on your practice. You should strive for perfection, not for speed.
in the first years i was playing guitar i focused only on speed... i always wanted to play as fast as possible. some months ago i started to practise with a metronome and increase the speed only when i play it without mistake...

[Neoteric]

in the first years i was playing guitar i focused only on speed... i always wanted to play as fast as possible. some months ago i started to practise with a metronome and increase the speed only when i play it without mistake...
I prefer melody over speed. Speed can be good but melody conquers all at the end of the day.

[Battle Against Time]

Hey guys! I havn't been on here much, I've been busy posting on Here (http://www.towardsdeadmx.co.nr)

I run it too.


I've made progress on BBT. The verse isn't too hard.

[Synthetical]

Are you dead yet and Bastards of Bodom are my favorite off the new CD.

[GenuineImitation]

Are you Dead Yet is probably my favorite song as well.

[MRDuCran]

I always though the verse was too bland to be Bodom, the intro riff is good though. I much prefer We're Not Gonna Fall and In Your Face.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

They said that everyones favorite seems to be Bastards Of Bodom

[Synthetical]

I always though the verse was too bland to be Bodom, the intro riff is good though. I much prefer We're Not Gonna Fall and In Your Face.

Ahh I wasnt thinking, I forgot We're Not gonna fall. We're not gonna fall is my all time favorite from all the CDs, although its pretty short and I dislike shorter songs.

[Battle Against Time]

Hey CoB folks!

Join my forum. It has 18 people in almost two days. We have plenty of great MXers on there.

Clicky Clicky (http://www.towardsdeadmx.co.nr) :thumb:

[AA-12]

hi im dylan and i whore my forum 24/7

:-*

[Battle Against Time]

hi im dylan and i whore my forum 24/7

:-*


Yo. You still havn't joined. haha.

[Sleepy]

Dylan's Bodom cover: Whored 24/7

I joined for ye, though. Be grateful and stop advertising, you greedy sonofabitch! <3

Anyway, I'm learning Bodom Beach Terror right now on guitar. It's nothing special, but a fun little tune.

[MRDuCran]

Bodom cover? Which?

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

Hey CoB folks!

Join my forum. It has 18 people in almost two days. We have plenty of great MXers on there.

Clicky Clicky (http://www.towardsdeadmx.co.nr) :thumb:
hmm after reporting me and chandler for no reason when we talked off topic for not even a page...i dont think so

[blue3]

Who's Chandler?

[Battle Against Time]

Who's Chandler?


Drunken Viking. His fellow at plenty of moments kidiot

[The Masked Guitarist]

im trying to learn bodom after midnight (on bass) but im a guitarist so im usless on bass! haha

[Sleepy]

im trying to learn bodom after midnight (on bass) but im a guitarist so im usless on bass! haha

Bass owns you. :D

I love bass; even more so than guitar, but both are quite a good time.

[Crysiss]

I like playing bass more then guitar, I like the sound of guitar more. But I like the feel of bass.

/takes up bass instead

[blue3]

I like playing guitar much more than bass.

[MRDuCran]

Me too.

[repcak]

/guitar

if you find two different tabs of a song, do you choose the easier one or the harder one? i found two tabs of Trilogy (Yngwie Malmsteen) and don't know which one i should learn now. :p

awesome Trilogy version -> orchestra version (http://youtube.com/watch?v=laBEEkZLrWM&search=malmsteen%20trilogy)

[MRDuCran]

Link me to both tabs, I'll see which one I'll think looks the most accurate.

[repcak]

its the first one - the easy one (http://www.911tabs.com/link/?2225313)

hard as hell (http://www.911tabs.com/link/?2225315)

[Squirrel]

meh, trilogy suite is boring and not crazy hard

[Crysiss]

I thought it was a pretty cool song:)

[Squirrel]

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

[Crysiss]

Man dont be an ***. You already said its boring, no need to say it again just because someone thought it was cool.

[A-S-S-H-A-T]

I've stopped relying on tabs to learn a song. I find it much more accurate when I sound a song out by ear. Plus, since it's a slow process, by the time you get the whole song figured out you pretty much got it mastered. It could be a little hard for stuff by shredders like Yngwie, but yeah, with everything else, it's better to learn on your own.

[MRDuCran]

its the first one - the easy one (http://www.911tabs.com/link/?2225313)

hard as hell (http://www.911tabs.com/link/?2225315)

Well there's not that much difference in the two, but the second tab is more accurate overall.

For the first main theme, it's the bit that says "alternative fingering" above, that's the 2 bars that are correct, then the open G string bit is all right.

The section after is pretty much perfect.

The first tab has many mistakes and position imperfections.

[repcak]

i think i will take the easier one... in the second one, there are these speed-changes for a very short time; it would be too hard for me... i just want to learn the intro, not the whole song for fun.
there are other songs i want to focus on and who are more important for me.
right now i learn following (parts of) songs:
- Kalmah Swamphell (yeah, still :p )
- Symphony X - Inferno (Unleash the Fire) (intro)
- Towards the Dead End - CoB (sweeping part)
- Sinergy - Passage to the fourth world / the first solo part of Roope
those are the songs i want to focus.

for fun i learn/practise:
Nile - Lashed to the slave stick
Slayer - Raining Blood
Malmsteen - Trilogy


edit: nice post number 2,666 :D

[MRDuCran]

i think i will take the easier one... in the second one, there are these speed-changes for a very short time; it would be too hard for me... i just want to learn the intro, not the whole song for fun.


I'm only talking about the first section of the song. The first tab is Wrong. If you want to learn it the way he plays it, the 2nd tab is what you want.

[Shattered_Future]

I got the first part of Inferno...first...3 seconds, maybe. :p

[Sleepy]

Swamphell's beyond me, but I've only been playing guitar for a few months now. I know how to play it the whole way through on bass, though - it's a fun tune.

[Battle Against Time]

Swamphell's beyond me, but I've only been playing guitar for a few months now. I know how to play it the whole way through on bass, though - it's a fun tune.


It has a killer intro. I might try it once I've learned Bodom Beach Terror.

The pre chorus is a bitch.

[MRDuCran]

/checks Swamphell tab.

[The Masked Guitarist]

/is getting angry with his bass
/contemplates if he sould smach the bithc

[MRDuCran]

Why, what has it done wrong?


Anyway, I got the Swamphell tab and realised I've downloaded the song before and I kidna like it, so I'm gonna get it again and also give it a shot.
I'm just trying to re-arranged the tab so I can find an easier fingering, the one on the net looks a bit tricky with the pinky barres on the 17th fret etc.

I've got one version that uses a load of position shifts but it's easy for me, I might play it that way.

[an_ash_in_the_fall]

Hey, I know this is kind of a throwback, but I kind of wanted to get this forum back on track... you know... theories on the songs?
One of my all time favorites is The Patient off of Lateralus. I love the guitar intro and the drums throughout, but I've been thinking a lot about the lyrics:

03 the patient •

A groan of tedium escapes me,
Startling the fearful.
Is this a test? It has to be,
Otherwise I can't go on.
Draining patience, drain vitality.
This paranoid, paralyzed vampire act's a little old.

But I'm still right here
Giving blood, keeping faith
And I'm still right here.

Wait it out,
Gonna wait it out,
Be patient (wait it out).

If there were no rewards to reap,
No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.

If there were no desire to heal
The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen here
I certainly would've walked away by now.

And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.

Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

And if there were no rewards to reap,
No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may.

Gonna wait it out.




I have a theory: This song is about Maynard's mother, who was a cancer patient for 27 years (this might also be the reason for the title "10,000 days (27 years is 9,855 days... almost 10,000.)) ANy thoughts?

[repcak]

äh... wrong thread? this is about Cob, not Tool ;)

@MRDuCran: i uploaded the tab i play along: Swamphell (unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Swamphell.gp3) (its the part to the first solo)

[MRDuCran]

@MRDuCran: i uploaded the tab i play along: Swamphell (unet.univie.ac.at/~a0403759/Swamphell.gp3) (its the part to the first solo)


Yeah that looks wrong to me. Obviously I don't know for sure it's how they play it, but I definately wouldn't play it like that. I can't find any videos on video Google or youtube. Try re-arranging the notes around to make it easier on yourself.

[repcak]

i learn this song in that way now for some months ... it would have to start from the beginning if i would re-arrange it.
and why, do you think, if you haven't seen a video, that it's wrong?!

[Kurrpt]

hes probably used to laiho style, given the vast amount of songs/riff hes learned from CoB. Hes literally the "residential expert"

[MRDuCran]

Well I don't really think it's to do with style, just common sense really.

Check this:
Bar 2.

|---------------------------------------------------
|------------------------------------16-------14--
|-16-13----------16-15-------15---16-15------
|------13------13-------16-13-------------------
|--------14--14------------------------------------
|----------16---------------------------------------

Notes 13,14,15,16 - If you were using 1 finger per fret, it would mean you'd have to barre the 16th fret with your pinky, come down onto your ring and change string and use your middle. I'm saying it's stupidly hard, but it can be made alot easier, in my experience, it's very rare to find anything that requires a 4th finger barre, especially on the higher strings/frets.
|---------------------------------------------------
|------------------------------------16-12---14--
|-16-13----------16-15-------15-------15------
|------13------13-------16-13-------------------
|--------14--14------------------------------------
|----------16---------------------------------------

Changing that one note (16th on G string to 12th on B string) makes that bit easier.

Or you could shift that whole section so the G#min arpeggio is here:

e-7----------------------
b---9------------12-11-
g-----8--------8--------- etc
d-------9----9-----------
a---------11-------------
e-------------------------

[Kurrpt]

Well I don't really think it's to do with style, just common sense really.

Check this:
Bar 2.

|---------------------------------------------------
|------------------------------------16-------14--
|-16-13----------16-15-------15---16-15------
|------13------13-------16-13-------------------
|--------14--14------------------------------------
|----------16---------------------------------------

Notes 13,14,15,16 - If you were using 1 finger per fret, it would mean you'd have to barre the 16th fret with your pinky, come down onto your ring and change string and use your middle. I'm saying it's stupidly hard, but it can be made alot easier, in my experience, it's very rare to find anything that requires a 4th finger barre, especially on the higher strings/frets.
|---------------------------------------------------
|------------------------------------16-12---14--
|-16-13----------16-15-------15-------15------
|------13------13-------16-13-------------------
|--------14--14------------------------------------
|----------16---------------------------------------

Changing that one note (16th on G string to 12th on B string) makes that bit easier.



honestly, i would play it that way BECAUSE it is harder that way. I always try to learn the hard way first, and then learn short cuts afterwards. Similar to math class id say

[repcak]

the using of the pinky on the 16th fret was the main problem, i make always a mistake, but through playing it, i strengthend my pinky and technique.... lets see how you will play it in the end :thumb:


edit:
guitar is like philosophy - everyone has another access to it. Mitch is rewriting stuff to make it easier. Che likes to play it as hard as possible, cause afterwards the less harder things, are suddenly easy (ps.: i read your column in the guitar lesson site :thumb: )

[Kurrpt]

are you talking about the thread where i stated its not strength, but coordination?


Im honestly thinking about going back to school to teach music/guitar

[repcak]

oh, sorry, i was talking about this (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/lesson.php?lessonid=109).
i had in mind it was from you

teaching guitar? how old are you? did you once go to a guitar-school, or something like that?

[Kurrpt]

im 23...

not i never went to school for guitar, yet...


and if you notice, mattihas, or whatever his name is, actually gave me credit because i helped him on that, or filled in areas that i felt needed to be addressed.

I think what helps me relate guitar better than most is just due to the fact that i havent been playing long, and have made all progressions by myself so its easy to relate

[MRDuCran]

the using of the pinky on the 16th fret was the main problem, i make always a mistake, but through playing it, i strengthend my pinky and technique.... lets see how you will play it in the end :thumb:


I can already nearly play it at 110 the way I play it, I just need to actually remember it.

[MRDuCran]

http://download.yousendit.com/AF8A328A0FBFEDE4

Here's a powertab I made with a bunch of random variations.

I can play "D" and "F" smoothly already.
F was how I originally worked it out as, but I don't see the point in sliding that much if it's not nessessary, so I'm going to go with D.

[repcak]

oh, well, than it were you both, who made this lesson ;)

I can already nearly play it at 110 the way I play it, I just need to actually remember it.
i start to dislike you :p

[Kurrpt]

repcak, i seriously think you quest for "speed" is hindering your progression. You need to define yourself as a guitarist in other terms

[repcak]

in what terms do you mean.
i play metal and most metal songs are relative fast ... so without speedprogression i cant play them

[Kurrpt]

in what terms do you mean.
i play metal and most metal songs are relative fast ... so without speedprogression i cant play them



well, thats true for anyone who plays metal mind you. I just see you, as in my shoes about 4 months ago. You want to play "this" fast, but you can only go "this" fast, and you need to bridge the gap...

The problem is, with the way you are tackling it, and the way i WAS tackling it, you would only make marginal progress every few weeks or so, and it would literally take you years to get to that point

this is based on playing your fastest at a certain BPM for SO many hours, and gradually increasing.

I find it works MUCH better to get rid of you idea of the higher the BPM, the faster you are playing, or will be able to play. In all honesty, you find yourself playing faster when playing slower. Why is this? I'm a firm believer, that in order to play FAST (circa 160 bpm and greater) that it needs to feel "natural"

My way of justifying this is, if you look at ANY guitarist that you or I would consider good, and who can play fast, it looks easy as hell to them, no?

So the real question should be, how do i play fast and comfortable. I'm sure you are not aware, but lets say you were practicing for an inderterminate amount at your TOP speed, you would actually find yourself tensing up, thus limiting your muscles that are involved in the process. The only REAL way to over come this is to play at a speed you feel comfortable with, perfection included.

I found myself making huge leaps in terms of progression when i changed my attitude towards practice. If you saw what i practice daily, you would probably be bored to tears. I will say, that my left hand technique is getting EXACTLY where i wanted it to be, but didnt think it was possible

[repcak]

hm... that sounds logical what you're saying.... hm... but then, when i play as fast as it feels comfortable, when do i know when i can speed it up? i mean, when i can play swamphell at 60bpm comfortable ... eh no... i don't even play it comfortable when i play it at 40bpm :upset: , when do i know that i can play it faster?
and can you show me the things what you're practising daily, what you think will bore me?

[Kurrpt]

hm... that sounds logical what you're saying.... hm... but then, when i play as fast as it feels comfortable, when do i know when i can speed it up? i mean, when i can play swamphell at 60bpm comfortable ... eh no... i don't even play it comfortable when i play it at 40bpm :upset: , when do i know that i can play it faster?
and can you show me the things what you're practising daily, what you think will bore me?


its not so much the type of exercises really. You could get a lot from playing the same exercise every day for two years.

The best thing i could say is to find what is most uncomfortable, like say those double 16th fret pinky rolls from that tab, and just practice the hell out of it.

if you can feel comfortable, lets say at 100 doing a certain exercise, find an exercise that is extremely difficult for you at 100. Instead of just slowing it down then working it under, try to find out WHY its so hard for you, and work on that.

[repcak]

ok, i will do it :thumb:

and one more question to this "comfortable" thing... should i practise things with an metronome or should i play it without ?!

[Kurrpt]

well, i kinda ride the fence on that one. If you think you timing is GOOD, it may not be a benefit. I know when im working of phrasing, i really dont need a metronome.


I would say, take a break from the metronome all together. I think it would definitely help you to be more lax in your practice, which would help releave some tension.


god i suck at spelling :lol:

[MRDuCran]

I got Swamphell up to 100 first try, give me a few days practise and I should have it to 110.

[Battle Against Time]

its not so much the type of exercises really. You could get a lot from playing the same exercise every day for two years.

The best thing i could say is to find what is most uncomfortable, like say those double 16th fret pinky rolls from that tab, and just practice the hell out of it.

if you can feel comfortable, lets say at 100 doing a certain exercise, find an exercise that is extremely difficult for you at 100. Instead of just slowing it down then working it under, try to find out WHY its so hard for you, and work on that.


That's some of the best advice I've heard in a while for guitarists.

[repcak]

ok, thank you...
to be serious i don't have problems playing in time with a metronome, but i have problem to adjust it at the speed it feels 100% comfortable. so it will be a good thing to take a time-off from the metronome, for the things i have to practise until i can play it comfortable as you said :thumb:

[Kurrpt]

hey thanks man. This is seriously the ONLY reason i visit MX nowadays. I find the more i try to convey what ive learned for myself, in words, the more it makes sense. I feel i learn as well when i pass on knowledge, if that makes sense

[Kurrpt]

i know for different techniques, the metronome would be all over the place, and i just dont like having the hassle, or feeling CONFINED to those damn numbers on that little thing :lol:

[Battle Against Time]

hey thanks man. This is seriously the ONLY reason i visit MX nowadays. I find the more i try to convey what ive learned for myself, in words, the more it makes sense. I feel i learn as well when i pass on knowledge, if that makes sense


I get that. You really have to know "fill in the blank" if you're going to explain it in words to someone

[Kurrpt]

i have a belief that any of the current GOOD guitarists just suck at putting what they do in words. Im trying to help bridge that gap, for me, and for others.

[repcak]

maybe you should write a book and sell it ?!

[Kurrpt]

maybe you should write a book and sell it ?!


honestly, thats what i aim to do someday :D


the problem is, you really need some sort of paper for people to take you seriously. I would want to do a video, explaining common problems, and EXACTLY what needs to be done to overcome them. My problem is, since i started guitar SO late, im constantly trying to play catch up. Catch up to who? No one in particular id say. I have a constant belief that I suck, and i really see no reason to compare myself, or ability, to others. Guitar, for me, is really an internal struggle of where i want to be, where i am now, and figuring out how to bridge that gap.

Most instructional videos ive found, rarely offer any insight on how to do this. If anything, they might provide a few exercises that help you get out of your comfort range, but that really isnt that ground breaking IMO

[AA-12]

Dylan, BMM tonight?

[repcak]

yeah, thats true... most videos i've seen on the internet couldn't explain me how to sweep pick or to pinch harmonics...

... do you know a good guitar-book i could buy? once a friend recommended me: guitar heroes - by milan polak. do you know this book?

[Kurrpt]

never heard of it tbh. I only use guitar books as reference for exercises that i wouldnt be able to consider on my own. I think rusty cooley and troy stentina eclipse just about anyone in the industry, it terms of quality

could you explain that book briefly? The one you were mentioning



i actually have about 500-1000 worth of reference material that ive archived if you are interested in any

[repcak]

i never bought this book, and never looked inside, but as far as i know the techniques of malmsteen, vai, satch, etc. are explained... technique book.
link (http://www.milanpolak.com/books.htm)

500-1000 :eek: sure i'm interested :D

[Kurrpt]

i leave work in 11 minutes...


shoot me an email, and ill start hookin you up :thumb:


mckeepa@fhsc.com

[repcak]

thank you :thumb:

repcak@gmx.at

[Kurrpt]

not a problem. I sent you mail so it saves your address

[repcak]

thanks, i got your mail

[Hevy Tred]

FYI: I just got the CoBHC hoodie from infinity1.com

only thing i have to say is; Europeans must be little people. My american.....muscle...nearly burst through it ;)

[chorbalan]

^
THat or you got a size that is too small for you :rolleyes:

[Hevy Tred]

^
THat or you got a size that is too small for you :rolleyes:

Honestly, i wear an extra large, But this....wasnt one...It had to be a misprint

My opeth fits perfect and came from same company\




ANYWAY, It kicks ***. Big reaper on the back in red \m/

[repcak]

when you buy tshirts from bands: they don't take it exactly with the sizes. i bought a medium NIN shirt and it fits perfect, i bought a medium Sunn O))) shirt and its a little bit too small...
it really depends on the company

[Battle Against Time]

Dylan, BMM tonight?


Not sure. I don't think so. My forum has special events. :cool: :smoke:

[Sleepy]

Not sure. I don't think so. My forum has special events. :cool: :smoke:

It does...?

What'd I miss?

[Shattered_Future]

FYI: I just got the CoBHC hoodie from infinity1.com

only thing i have to say is; Europeans must be little people. My american.....muscle...nearly burst through it ;)

Same thing happened me with a Nightwish sweatshirt. Extra-Large my ***...

[Shadows]

FYI: I just got the CoBHC hoodie from infinity1.com

only thing i have to say is; Europeans must be little people. My american.....muscle...nearly burst through it ;)
I have the same thing. It only comes in one size though, and I'm a small guy. It's about a size too big. :(

How long has it been since I've been here? I just heard the brand new Shadows Fall song, so my night will at least have something new to it.

[AA-12]

Got a link?

EDIT: Listening. Not caring much for it so far.

[Shadows]

I like it, but I'm a litt unnerved by the fact that they haven't really progressed at all since The War Within. I'll still get Fallout anyway.

[AA-12]

Yeah, I only like pre The War Within, but i'll still probably buy/download this to see if it's any good.

[Shadows]

I'm really excoted about the old songs being re-done though. That is guaranteed to kick ***. I love the twin melody in the new one too, though. I'm incredibly relieved that the rumor about the new, simplistic Shadows Fall is officially disproved as well.

I'm also loving the production. The bass is extra crunchy and Jason's drumming is absolutely brutal.

[Shadows Within]

linkage?

[AA-12]

Go to Google and search Shadows Fall, then go to their site. It plays there.

[Shadows Within]

not bad but i still have a thing against the vocals, i cant seem to get used to them.

[AA-12]

not bad but i still have a thing against the vocals, i cant seem to get used to them.
Yeah, i'm not a big fan of his vocals at all, but the old stuff is pretty great.

[Shadows]

His OOB vocals were completely different.

[Shadows Within]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=64773027

just got an invite from these guy on myspace they sound alot like COB

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Invalid ID

[The Masked Guitarist]

/ decided to play a diffrent song on bass and is now living happily ever after ..... the end ............ welll mabye i sould try the CoB song again .....

[AA-12]

CoB's bass isn't really that hard.

[AWV]

You can barely hear their bass and their songs sound all the same. The only few songs that stand out are Bed of Razors and Red Light in my Eyes (Part 2).

Their latest album is more thrash than power metal though.

[The Masked Guitarist]

i no but im a guitarist !
bass is a compleatly diffrent mindset and its hard to actually hear whats going on

[AA-12]

You can barely hear their bass** and their songs sound all the same***. The only few songs that stand out are Bed of Razors and Red Light in my Eyes (Part 2).

Their latest album is more thrash than power metal though****.
**You can hear it fine if you listen for it

***Not really

****I don't get where you see thrash in the new album. I hear none. What thrash do you listen to?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Bass isn't that hard to hear in CoB. It just doesn't do anything interesting.

[Shadows Within]

anyone know if theres an acurate tab for everytime i die?

[Sleepy]

Bass isn't that hard to hear in CoB. It just doesn't do anything interesting.

With a select few exceptions, yes. It has some nice fills in Warheart and Hatebreeder, though. Bass is Bodom's weak spot.

[Squirrel]

and drums

and vocals

and writing interesting songs

:cool:

[GenuineImitation]

Is it true that CoB are working on a new album?

[repcak]

not true, but they will release a live DVD soon.

[GenuineImitation]

Thats cool. Do you know whn it will be released?

[repcak]

i think, they didn't said anything about the release date... but i suppose it will be after their tour; maybe this summer

[Sleepy]

Okay, I'm now officially stoked as hell.

I'm going to see Bodom on the Unholy Alliance tour on June 7th. \m/

[AA-12]

June 6 show > June 7.

[Sleepy]

June 6 show > June 7.

If I could convince my parents to fly me down to southern California for the 6th, I would. I'd probably end up running into Butcher at the show. :lol:

However, they're not that cool. June 7th it is. I was close, wasn't I? :-\

[AA-12]

Close enough, haha.

[GenuineImitation]

Okay, I'm now officially stoked as hell.

I'm going to see Bodom on the Unholy Alliance tour on June 7th. \m/

Nice. Can you post pictures when you return from the show?

[Sleepy]

Nice. Can you post pictures when you return from the show?

Of course; they'll be crappy cell phone pictures, but I'll see if I can land any good shots. :)

[repcak]

Alexi drinking beer (http://coty.jubiiblog.com.es/upload/0293_alexi.jpg) :thumb:

[Sleepy]

Way to be a lamer and wear your own band paraphenelia, Alexi. :rolleyes:

:p

[repcak]

Way to be a lamer and wear your own band paraphenelia, Alexi. :rolleyes:

:p
he is his own biggest fanboy :lol:

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

not true, but they will release a live DVD soon.
its actually true. go to this website with an interview with Alexi...

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/children_of_bodoms_alexi_laiho_on_new_cd_shred_you r_****ing_***_off.html

[Crysiss]

Why does alexi wear a cast anyway?

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

thats because he hurt his wrist a while ago lol, common sense. he doesnt have it anymore, i think

[Crysiss]

Oh, Its just that alot of pictures I've seen, hes wearing it.

[repcak]

he broke his hand last year... in the april 2005 issue of guitar world he had it on the photos.

@hailtruemetal: thank you for the interview, but i could'nt find the part he says that they will record a new record soon.
i doubt it, cause in september/october Sinergy will release a new album...

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

i havent seen that many pictures. all of them were from a signing he was doing

[blue3]

One of the Guitar World issues had pictures of him with the cast.

[Battle Against Time]

he is his own biggest fanboy :lol:


I'm my own biggest fanboy as well.

It's a good quality to have as a person.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

he broke his hand last year... in the april 2005 issue of guitar world he had it on the photos.

@hailtruemetal: thank you for the interview, but i could'nt find the part he says that they will record a new record soon.
i doubt it, cause in september/october Sinergy will release a new album...
yeah i know i looked back at it but i didnt find anything about it. i wonder why the title says "Alexi Laiho on CoB CD Shred your fukkn a$$ off

[repcak]

maybe they were talking about AYDY?!

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

but it said the CD title

[MRDuCran]

They were talking about AYDY.

[repcak]

i found an alexi laiho tribute video on youtube. its worth seeing it
link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tPsyDtHObFA&search=alexi%20laiho)

[Battle Against Time]

i found an alexi laiho tribute video on youtube. its worth seeing it
link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tPsyDtHObFA&search=alexi%20laiho)


I didn't like that.

[blue3]

i found an alexi laiho tribute video on youtube. its worth seeing it
link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tPsyDtHObFA&search=alexi%20laiho)
haha, that looks like something I would make, with the hearts and all that..

[MRDuCran]

That's just pointless. Some guy sequencing loads of Alexi pics that can all be found on the net, over Red Light in my Eyes pt.2.

[repcak]

its easy to make, but i like it :D

[Battle Against Time]

That's just pointless. Some guy sequencing loads of Alexi pics that can all be found on the net, over Red Light in my Eyes pt.2.


He could have spent that time doing something useful with himself.

IE, Slitting his wrists

[MRDuCran]

You know what, I think it might actually be a girl, since it's labelled Alexi Laiho is a "fox", and the subtitle says Alexi Laiho makes me "tingle", or something like that. Sounds like something a girl would say.

[Battle Against Time]

You know what, I think it might actually be a girl, since it's labelled Alexi Laiho is a "fox", and the subtitle says Alexi Laiho makes me "tingle", or something like that. Sounds like something a girl would say.


I agree. or maybe just a really ghey guy. Either way it sucked.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah I was thinking a gay dude, it wouldn't suprise me really.

[Battle Against Time]

Yeah I was thinking a gay dude, it wouldn't suprise me really.


I honestly couldn't give a ****, though I've always wondered if Alexi is gay.

haha. Kim Goss would make many people go gay. Well maybe that's a tad harsh.

He just strikes me that way.

[repcak]

why do you think alexi is gay?

when i first visited this page, i wondered that everybody (even the boys) where saying, alexi is a good looking guy... i asked you if you are all gay, and you weren't.
i too think, that alexi is a good looking guy, but that doesn't make me gay

[MRDuCran]

Well I know this doesn't exactly mean he's not, but he does currently have a girlfriend.

[repcak]

alexi has a girlfriend? who?

[MRDuCran]

Probably noone famous, just some girl from Finland I'm guessing.

And he's actually still officially married to Kim.

[repcak]

i really don't know, if my guitar teacher (who knows alexi) said he is still officially married or is not.
In october there will be a new sinergy album, so alexi has to see his wife again :p

[MRDuCran]

Well I know for a fact he is, since I read it in an interview this year. They broke up, but never got officially divorced.

Yeah, they're still friends and everything. I'm looking forward to it, not for the vocals but for the music itself, that's the only reason I listen to Sinergy. I Spit On Your Grave, Suicide by my Side, Passage to the Fourth World and Return to the Fourth World all kick *** musically.

[AA-12]

I can't stomach Sinergy :-(

[repcak]

and i can't stomach your new avatar ...

[Shred Danson]

I can't stomach Sinergy :-(

I just can't stomach the vocals.

and i can't stomach your new avatar ...

made me laugh. But then again I'm very immature. :rolleyes:

[repcak]

Cob thread on the third side... can't be.

today i bought a headset and i just tried how good the quality is if recording from my amp... its not the best quality, but its ok. :D
at least i can record my own stuff :thumb:

[ToWhatEnd]

This band is just about the only one in the genre I listen to. My friend said they owned live, anyone seen them?

[MRDuCran]

Yeah that's completely true, they do.

Most of the regulars here have seen Cob live.

Hey repcak, have you recorded anything yet?

[repcak]

i recorded some riffs, and licks (kalmah), but only to see how's the quality... and i wasn't warmed up. i recorded it on cooledit pro 1.2, what recording program do you use?
i just play guitar :p


and yes, CoB live are fantastic

[Crysiss]

Yeah that's completely true, they do.

Most of the regulars here have seen Cob live.

Hey repcak, have you recorded anything yet?

I havent seen them yet, But im gonna see 'em this summer:D


Post your recordings when your done repcak

[repcak]

which recordings?! i suck on guitar :p

[Crysiss]

lol, How long you been playing?

I can play Chokehold, I still forget the riffs as im playing them though.

[repcak]

i started when i was 17... first year acoustic guitar, but i played onle once a week for maybe one hour.
after this first year i bought my first e-guitar... e-guitar for some 2years now, but i had times when i haven't touched guitar for months. best example: last year, from march till june the guitar was at home - me in vienna :/
so if you count all the time together while i play guitar... hm... with all the breaks and so on... maybe 1 1/2 years now.

[Crysiss]

Oh, Thats gotta suck.

Longest I've been away from my guitar wasnt for more then two weeks lol.

[MRDuCran]

Longest for me is 2 days, I think.

And that's out of 4 years.


Rep: I don't use a conventional recording program because my pc is too crap to run one properly. When I get my new one, I'll use Cubase.

[Crysiss]

Not even Audacity:eek:

[MRDuCran]

Never experienced it.

Not even Cubase actually, I've only ever used Cool Edit Pro 2 before, and I had to delete it because it lagged.

Now I use All Sound Recorder that records anything it hears, so I have to play the backing track, and play at the same time, save that. Then play the recording I just did and record over that, so if I make a mistake right at the end, I have to do it all again.

[repcak]

Longest for me is 2 days, I think.

And that's out of 4 years.

wow... respect.
but whats about holidays, when you travel away with your family f.e.? do you take your guitar with you?

my problem in playing guitar, were the looooong breaks i've done always. the longest break i had since january/february was one week, when i was burned out, and now last time i played two days ago.

[MRDuCran]

wow... respect.
but whats about holidays, when you travel away with your family f.e.? do you take your guitar with you?

my problem in playing guitar, were the looooong breaks i've done always. the longest break i had since january/february was one week, when i was burned out, and now last time i played two days ago.

I can't remember the last time I went on holiday, and the last time was only a caravan trip a few hours away. I'm not sure how many years ago it was.

[guitrguy]

I take my guitar on trips.

[Crysiss]

I try to, if not, I write music on my laptop.

[I'm Charming]

The most I ever go without playing is two days sometimes.

Maybe 1 day.

I play almost every day and several hours.

[AA-12]

I play like every few days. When I play it's for like 30 minutes :-\

[Sleepy]

The most I ever go without playing is two days sometimes.

Maybe 1 day.

I play almost every day and several hours.

A very certainly Charming person is back in business!

Bodom thread hasn't been the same without you, Dylan. Welcome back. :wave:

[I'm Charming]

A very certainly Charming person is back in business!

Bodom thread hasn't been the same without you, Dylan. Welcome back. :wave:



Thank you.

/takes bow

It's great to be back indeed. My exile has ended. I'll still post mostly on TDMX though.


Bodom Beach Terror is going great. Once I get it done and master it. I'll record.

Don't ask every page, "have you yet" though.

[MRDuCran]

Bodom thread hasn't been the same without you, Dylan. Welcome back. :wave:

Yeah, there's actually been Children of Bodom disscussion. :p.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I play like every few days. When I play it's for like 30 minutes :-\
same here., I probably play every second day.

[blue3]

same here., I probably play every second day.lazy!

actually, I'm the same way. I should practice more.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I should, but it's not really important.

[blue3]

Yes it is! If you want to be a rockstar or something.

[I'm Charming]

Yes it is! If you want to be a rockstar or something.


oMGz you mean like Alexi? shweeet d00d.


@ Mitch. That's totally un related. I don't bring the off topic posting. It's a collective effort from all.

[MRDuCran]

Eh, I really don't care, I post mainly in reply to Bodom stuff because I enjoy it, other crap I ignore.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

That's totally un related. I don't bring the off topic posting. It's a collective effort from all.
Yeah, right.

[AA-12]

same here., I probably play every second day.
Yeah, I only play now for pure fun, not really practicing.

[Crysiss]

Thank you.

/takes bow

It's great to be back indeed. My exile has ended. I'll still post mostly on TDMX though.


Bodom Beach Terror is going great. Once I get it done and master it. I'll record.

Don't ask every page, "have you yet" though.


ahahaha, your back buddy!

[Shadows Within]

Yeah, I only play now for pure fun, not really practicing.
thats usually me, but my damn friend signed me and him up for a small concert thingy and now i have to play Everytime I Die, which would be ok if it werent the first time getting on stage and playing....

sry if my grammar sucks its really dark here, hard to see keyboard.

[Crysiss]

Well I hope you do well.:)

[Forlorn Hope]

yay Everytime I Die...I like that song a lot.
You should record it for all of us to listen to.
Or maybe you already have and I missed it...

[repcak]

Bodom Beach Terror is going great. Once I get it done and master it. I'll record.

Don't ask every page, "have you yet" though.
i know it wasn't you, but whats about the recording to "Universal Mind". Was it Che Guevara who promised to record it?!

[I'm Charming]

i know it wasn't you, but whats about the recording to "Universal Mind". Was it Che Guevara who promised to record it?!


Yeah it was.

Does anyone have a GP4 tab for Universal Mind? One of my fav Petrucci songs.
Actually prolly is my fav.

I doubt I can play the intro, but I could do some of the leads and chord progressions. I'll give it a try.

I was the one who promised a recording of Lashed To The Slave Stick.
Which won't happen. I didn't practice it for like a week and the ability to play the verse went straight to hell. I tried to re-do it but it was going to take a lot of work to re learn it to where I had it at.

In other words. I'm to lazy to re learn that part. :p

[repcak]

i will try to record kalmah - swamphell this weekend, but i can't promise it ... to much to do for university.
but i promised it to record it at least in july (summer); i can't play it as fast as it should be, so if i will record it this weekend it will be maybe about 80bpm, i don't know.

[repcak]

yesterday i tried Cool Edit Pro but i had an old version (1.2) so i deleted it; afterwards i tried CuBase, but this was a fuked up crack version.
Then i tried Logic Audio... this program is only for professionals - too complex :p

now i downloaded audacity and Kristal, and Kristal is fukking awesome ... i love it :D and its freeware :thumb: i can recommend it everyone. i wonder only that it says you need 1GhZ pc, and i have only 900MhZ, but it works ;)

[Kurrpt]

yea, you aint playing that intro charming :lol:



they have REALLY good tab for it at the dream theater main page

[repcak]

@Che: before weekend you said, you will send me some files ... forgot it? :(

:wave:

[Kurrpt]

@Che: before weekend you said, you will send me some files ... forgot it? :(

:wave:


yea man, definitely. The problem is, the files are at home, where i have no internets. My normal modus operendi, was to bring in my iPOD and make tranfers between the two computers. My iPOD since broke, and the iPOD i was borrowing from a friend, he took back.

My little brother is coming to my place today. He has an old RCA mp3 player (20 gig) that i gave him. Ill see if he can let me borrow it, and then ill actually bring my whole archive to work :thumb:


i have one book that i think will be perfect for ya

[repcak]

:eek:
ehm ... well, i don't know what to say; i haven't known that this thing will be so complicated; now i don't know how to pay back for your efforts.

[Kurrpt]

hahaha


the only way to pay me back would be to be patient, and put the information to good use.


... that is all :thumb:

[repcak]

hahaha


the only way to pay me back would be to be patient, and put the information to good use.


... that is all :thumb:
i will :thumb:

[Kurrpt]

i get off work in 21 minutes. Im assuming my bro will give me a call on my commute home, so i should be able to remember to ask for that player to get the ball rolling...


if everything goes right, you should have something for tomorrow

[I'm Charming]

yea, you aint playing that intro charming :lol:



they have REALLY good tab for it at the dream theater main page


I doubt it.

I'll give it a shot though.

[MRDuCran]

Yer, where the fukk is Ben's perfect recording of it?

[I'm Charming]

Yer, where the fukk is Ben's perfect recording of it?


Ummm yeah. I'm still waiting too.

[repcak]

ähm... i tried to record kalmah swamhell today and the sound quality is awful!! yesterday i thought its ok, but now i think its horrible -> headset mic :(

do you know a way how to improve quality?


/**** ... too much fingerstretching :upset: AUTSCH, my wrist

[MRDuCran]

It's either your tone on your amp, or your imput level is too high. With recording, you don't need to record loud because you can increase it later, check that.

[AA-12]

Go straight into the computer.

Guitar - Cable - 1/8 to 1/4 adapter or whatever - Line In plug.

[The Buttloaves]

So I tuned my guitar down a whole step yesterday. I got the bridge perfectly level, it plays like a machine. I'm learning the lead intro part to Everytime I Die but he does some whammy bar stuff I haven't figured out yet.

[MRDuCran]

So I tuned my guitar down a whole step yesterday. I got the bridge perfectly level, it plays like a machine. I'm learning the lead intro part to Everytime I Die but he does some whammy bar stuff I can't do yet.

Why? It's not hard.

[repcak]

tone of my amp: yes - cheap guitar with bad humbucker + amp
... but my input level was set highest, so this may be the problem. i will try it tomorrow. thanks

[MRDuCran]

tone of my amp: yes - cheap guitar with bad humbucker + amp
... but my input level was set highest, so this may be the problem. i will try it tomorrow. thanks

lol input level at highest?? That's definately the reason.

[The Buttloaves]

Why? It's not hard.
The part from like 6 seconds to 8 seconds in, and the very last note, I don't get how he gets it to come up that high. I don't even think I can go a whole step up without ripping the bridge off.

[MRDuCran]

Hit a harmonic on the 17th frets of the B and G strings while your strings are depressed by the bar, then let it come up and lift a bit when it gets level.

[AA-12]

lol input level at highest?? That's definately the reason.
Haha, I had mine maxed for the first month of when I started recording. Baaaaaaad move.

[I'm Charming]

Why? It's not hard.


Seriously.

With my old Jackson, I did that no problem. It took like five minutes to get that.

It's really simple.

[Kids_For_Christ]

Haha, I had mine maxed for the first month of when I started recording. Baaaaaaad move.
shame....think u might need to go to the guitar forum...

[I'm Charming]

shame....think u might need to go to the guitar forum...


Kids For Christ?

lmao

[repcak]

wow... i nearly got banned, for posting in the "best guitarist" thread ... i had luck. i never got banned :p

[MRDuCran]

Who did you vote for?

[repcak]

for nobody... or did you thought i would vote for hetFEILD or even hEmmET :lol:

[AA-12]

shame....think u might need to go to the guitar forum...
What? I think you need to go to the gtfo forum Kids For Christ.

[Kurrpt]

you need to shut up and stop telling people where they "should" go. I've read his posts. You are easily more annoying

[AA-12]

He doesn't even post enough to provide an opinion. His comment was pretty dumb anyway. Also, I don't like his username :-\

[Kurrpt]

i could easily say the same for you. The fact of the matter is, hes less offensive than your posts. You also dont know if that is his faith, or if its a parody of sorts. In any event, i dont think you are in a posistion to make "judgement calls"

[AA-12]

I'm Necro. Forgot I was on an alt.

[Shadows Within]

Has anyone seen a really old video of cob i think the oldest one i've seen is downfall but has anyone seen any that are older?

[I'm Charming]

This thread has gone to utter hell.

[AA-12]

This whole forum has gone to hell.

[Shadows Within]

why?

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Has anyone seen a really old video of cob i think the oldest one i've seen is downfall but has anyone seen any that are older?


I would like to know the answer to this myself :)

[I'm Charming]

I would like to know the answer to this myself :)


There's a really old video fo Deadnight Warrior.

It's on Scythes Of Bodom.

[Shadows Within]

There's a really old video fo Deadnight Warrior.

It's on Scythes Of Bodom.
i have that one but the downfall one looks alot older. his guitar is higher, hes wearing leather and his voice isnt as deep.

[Sleepy]

Deadnight Warrior's older, trust me.

This whole forum has gone to hell.

It kinda has been, hasn't it?

But what's caused the change?

[Shattered_Future]

All the original regulars of the thread leaving.