Children Of Bodom

[I'm Charming]

haha yeah he did, then realised later that it wasn't out yet.

Everybody still cheered when he asked though :lol:

cough bit torrent cough

>.>
<.<

[blue3]

How close were you to the stage?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

On a balcony around 8 metres away from stage.

[I'm Charming]

On a balcony around 8 metres away from stage.

How far is that for a stupid american?


I was about 3 feet from the stage during Bodom. I could touched Alexi or Roope if I had tried.

[blue3]

Why didn't you?!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Because he isn't weird like you, Julianne.

1 metre = 3 feet

[I'm Charming]

1 metre = 3 feet

Oh, Meters yeah. I didn't get that at first.

We spell it, "Meter" in the US of A.

lol.

Why didn't you?!

Combo of being star struck and head banging. I couldn't move my neck for a week after the show. Damn.... That means it was a good show.

[blue3]

It's 'metre' in the cool countries.

Because he isn't weird like you, Julianne.

1 metre = 3 feetNot as weird as you! o0o0

[I'm Charming]

It's 'metre' in the cool countries.

Meh. Canada is overrated.

Finland & Sweden > All

[Apocalyptic Raids]

It's 'metre' in the cool countries.

damn right

:h5:

[I'm Charming]

I think Aussieland would be in my top ten countries to visit.

I want to see a kangeroo. Those are sweet.

[blue3]

I saw this albino kangaroo once.. in a book. It was sweet.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I have a pet kangaroo :cool:

[I'm Charming]

I saw this albino kangaroo once.. in a book. It was sweet.

I'll tell you what's better.

Google for the video of "Panda School" or w/e. It's in China.l

The Pandas are so ****ing cute.

I have a pet kangaroo :cool:

If that's true. Your the coolest dude on MX.

[blue3]

Oh, big tough guy thinks pandas are cute. How odd.

I have a pet kangaroo :cool:No way, me too!

This is definitely Bodom related.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

of course when I say Kangaroo, I mean cat

>_>

<_<

[I'm Charming]

Oh, big tough guy thinks pandas are cute. How odd.

No way, me too!

This is definitely Bodom related.

I'd name a Panda, Alexi.

:cool:

haha. Just because put aside my ego when it comes to Pandas doesn't mean anything.


of course when I say Kangaroo, I mean cat

>_>

<_<

ahh. You LIE!!!

[blue3]

wtf Alexi the panda bear.

[I'm Charming]

wtf Alexi the panda bear.

Yeah he'd be a real tool too.

I want a chimp for a pet though. Now that would be badarse.

[Squirrel]

1 metre =/= 3 feet

/late

/runs

[Apocalyptic Raids]

close enough :p

[repcak]

on my show i was in the 3rd row, on the left side and after the show i could talk to them :D talked to alexi and roope and janne :D i could even "touch" them ... lol

[MegaMustaine]

I wish the Children of Bodom Lamb of God Slayer thing would come to kansas City.

There actually is a slight chance, because theres a 4 day break before or after st louis or something.

[blue3]

How did you get to meet them? I'm sure you mentioned it somewhere in the thread.. but whatever.

[purgatory]

I'll get to meet them when they come to San Fransisco, because our drummers drum teacher Jeremy, drums for Steve Vai, so Alexi and Jeremy are good friends!
It's all about the connections lol!

[repcak]

How did you get to meet them? I'm sure you mentioned it somewhere in the thread.. but whatever.
yeah, i mentioned it some 100-200 pages ago; after the show there was a aftershowparty. the show was over at 11:30pm and at 1am (or maybe 2am) the band members (ektomorf and CoB) went in. Roope Latvala was seating the whole night long on a desk opposite of our desk :thumb:

[I'm Charming]

yeah, i mentioned it some 100-200 pages ago; after the show there was a aftershowparty. the show was over at 11:30pm and at 1am (or maybe 2am) the band members (ektomorf and CoB) went in. Roope Latvala was seating the whole night long on a desk opposite of our desk :thumb:


Yes and you had pix to prove it all. :thumb:


Damn you..............



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Also known as our webmaster blows.

[repcak]

Yes and you had pix to prove it all. :thumb:


Damn you..............


sure :p

[DespisedIcon689]

Anyone know what Passage Of The Reaper is tuned to on guitar?

[Sleepy]

I thought all CoB stuff is downtuned one whole step.

[Forlorn Hope]

Anyone know what Passage Of The Reaper is tuned to on guitar?
D standard...every string dropped one whole step.

[MRDuCran]

I touched Roope's hand at the end of my gig when he walked past the front row, but that's about it. He walked past once and I missed him, then I was looking down thinking "oh, fukk", but I still had my hand out, and he walked past again, he got me as I looked up, made me smile. And my friend that I went with got Alexi's pick, so I've held that, wooo, great...yer.

[Sleepy]

I touched Roope's hand at the end of my gig when he walked past the front row, but that's about it. He walked past once and I missed him, then I was looking down thinking "oh, fukk", but I still had my hand out, and he walked past again, he got me as I looked up, made me smile. And my friend that I went with got Alexi's pick, so I've held that, wooo, great...yer.

You fanboy :p

[MRDuCran]

OMG....ikno.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

oh please

[MRDuCran]

What?

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

your not a fanboy

[I'm Charming]

your not a fanboy

Actually he is.


I thought all CoB stuff is downtuned one whole step.


No.

Something Wild- E flat
Hatebreeder- E flat or D standard
Follow The Reaper- D standard
Hate Crew Deathroll- Drop C (CGCFAD)
Are You Dead Yet? Drop C (CGCFAD)

[Sleepy]

your not a fanboy

You're** not the ultimate authority to determine that. :)

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

You dont knwo whats going on so dont comment

And i have a pretty good relationship with him so yeah i do know

[I'm Charming]

You're** not the ultimate authority to determine that. :)

Nice contraction correction there, sir!

[Shadows]

Something Wild- E flat
Hatebreeder- E flat or D standard
Follow The Reaper- D standard
Hate Crew Deathroll- Drop C (CGCFAD)
Are You Dead Yet? Drop C (CGCFAD)
Something Wild is in Db and Hatebreeder is in D.

[MRDuCran]

Actually he is.

You are correct.



Something Wild- E flat
Hatebreeder- E flat or D standard
Follow The Reaper- D standard
Hate Crew Deathroll- Drop C (CGCFAD)
Are You Dead Yet? Drop C (CGCFAD)


Ohshi!! :eek:

Something Wild - C# standard
Hatebreeder - D standard
Follow the Reaper - D standard
HCDR - D standard (Drop C for 2 songs)
AYDY - Drop C.

[Shadows]

Me + Mitch = pwnage

[MRDuCran]

\m/

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Evidently i was wrong about everything i said,im so sorry

[COBHC VANCITY]

tuning to D and C is so stupid. guitars sound so much worse when they're tuned down that low. i dont care how "heavy" you think it sounds, it's retarted.

Master of Puppets, one of the best metal albums of all time was played compltely in standard... and look at St. Anger... in Drop C.

You can really hear the difference in sound quality if you play the low E string tuned to E, and then to D or C.

/ends rant.

[I'm Charming]

I play in Drop D and that's great. Heavy + still able to do leads/solos

[Invicta_Veritas]

tuning to D and C is so stupid. guitars sound so much worse when they're tuned down that low. i dont care how "heavy" you think it sounds, it's retarted.

Master of Puppets, one of the best metal albums of all time was played compltely in standard... and look at St. Anger... in Drop C.

You can really hear the difference in sound quality if you play the low E string tuned to E, and then to D or C.

/ends rant.



I disagree. My band downtunes because it sounds good to us......it creates darker chords and sounds really good for metal if used properly.

However, when all a band does is downtune and play really fast, simple riffs, that's when it's overkill...........


It's all in how something is used (or abused).

[I'm Charming]

Yup.

Like breaking benjamin... Damn they are hardcore.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[purgatory]

I love all tunings. My band has only 5 songs and 3 of them are D standard, one of them is E standard, and the third is drop A. We goof off on the drop A song lol. Still, it sounds kinda cool

[I'm Charming]

I love all tunings. My band has only 5 songs and 3 of them are D standard, one of them is E standard, and the third is drop A. We goof off on the drop A song lol. Still, it sounds kinda cool

Drop B & A are too low. It gets towards "Toneless", for me at least.

[purgatory]

It depends on what guitar you use.
Some guitars necks can't have that much "nonstress" and it sounds like ****.
My BC Rich takes it like a champ! My Jackson can't do it.

[I'm Charming]

It depends on what guitar you use.
Some guitars necks can't have that much "nonstress" and it sounds like ****.
My BC Rich takes it like a champ! My Jackson can't do it.


I <3 my Jackson.

I've never liked any BC Rich guitars, I've always felt I could get a far better guitar for a lot less. It seems that an "ehh" Jackson played leagues above a nice BC Rich.

Just my observations and opinion though.

[MRDuCran]

My BC Rich obviously owns most guitars for drop tuning. The strings aren't even that slack in E, an octave lower.

[metalhead_matt]

DR extra heavy 11 gauge strings on jackson rx10d
:)

[Sleepy]

DR extra heavy 11 gauge strings on jackson rx10d
:)

You must not like playing leads...at all :)

I don't mind downtunings...drop A is a mite bit excessive, but Nile can still pull it off prett well.

[MRDuCran]

Something like this:
http://www.muzyczny.pl/images/2110_cc.jpg??

[metalhead_matt]

You must not like playing leads...at all :)

I don't mind downtunings...drop A is a mite bit excessive, but Nile can still pull it off prett well.

im a lead guitarist :p i use 9 gauge at the mo, ernie ball super slinkys
but im puttin 11's on my ibanez

[Sleepy]

im a lead guitarist :p i use 9 gauge at the mo, ernie ball super slinkys
but im puttin 11's on my ibanez

Jeebus...

That's starting to come close to light and extra light bass strings!

Mediums FTW :thumb: They're what I use for both bass and guitar.

[metalhead_matt]

il give em a try, might aswel :)
EDIT: laiho uses 11 gauge

[Invicta_Veritas]

Yup.

Like breaking benjamin... Damn they are hardcore.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Don't make me shoot myself :smash:

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I like Breaking Benjamin,well a few songs that ive heard,havent heard much by them actually

[Invicta_Veritas]

I like Breaking Benjamin,well a few songs that ive heard,havent heard much by them actually

They are a good band in my opinion, everybody just likes to give me sh*t about them.....I can go from listening to Vehemence to Breaking Benjamin to Lifehouse in a second.......

[Kurrpt]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww


/pukes



so about CoB....

[purgatory]

Damn, Lifehouse is pretty bad lol. I have a few bands that I get made fun of for listening to as well. One being Gunther!!!

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

i dont really like lifehouse but if it sounds good to me then ill listen to it,it doesnt just have to be metal

[Kurrpt]

agreed, im that ridiculous

[MRDuCran]

CoB haven't really been doing anything lately, 'cept touring the same stuff in US, nothing new. Alexi threw up once though.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

yeah there either sick or hurt

[MRDuCran]

Nope.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

well he threw up cuz it got so hot on him so that classifies as getting sick,not with a cold of course but still,and janne has got food poisoning idk how many times,along with other things

[Forlorn Hope]

I can't believe Jaska still played concerts with a broken rib...

[Kurrpt]

broken ribs arent that bad really...


a broken big toe would be worse

[Forlorn Hope]

broken ribs arent that bad really...


a broken big toe would be worse
Oh, never broken a bone so yea...
www.cobhc.com has been down for awhile now...:angry:

[repcak]

i was so happy to finish the download of CoB - live in Tokyo CD1, because the first version was a corrupted file.

... and what i see? no alexi, no jaska, no warmen... NO! some nudes... a pr0n :angry:

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I wonder whats wrong with it,unless there redoing everything or adding great stuffs *gets excited*

[GenuineImitation]

i was so happy to finish the download of CoB - live in Tokyo CD1, because the first version was a corrupted file.

... and what i see? no alexi, no jaska, no warmen... NO! some nudes... a pr0n :angry:


While it wasnt what you were looking for, it could have been worse. It could have been gay p0rn.

[repcak]

While it wasnt what you were looking for, it could have been worse. It could have been gay p0rn.
true... it could be worser... but its still a hom0sexual pr0n :p

[I'm Charming]

broken ribs arent that bad really...


a broken big toe would be worse

Yup.

I've had minor rib factures. Not a big deal, at all really.

I shattered the bone on the edge of my left foot several years ago. That wasn't good.


true... it could be worser... but its still a hom0sexual pr0n


CoB > gay pr0n
FTW

[Shadows]

CoB > straight pr0n :cool:

[MRDuCran]

Cob > Most things.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

My thoughts exactly

[I'm Charming]

My thoughts exactly


Your thoughts are correct, this time at least.

CoB > people

haha.

CoB > straight pr0n :cool:

Inter-racial midgit pr0n, now that's another story!

[Sleepy]

Wintersun > CoB

Owned...

[I'm Charming]

Wintersun > CoB

Owned...

You sir must be high.

Wintersun is a CoB knock off.

FTW

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Sex > CoB

/winnah

[Shadows]

Sex > CoB

/winnah
How the hell would you know?

[I'm Charming]

Sex > CoB

/winnah

I nor most people will argue with that.


You just had to play the ace didn't you?

[Sleepy]

You sir must be high.

Wintersun is a CoB knock off.

FTW

Pardon, good sir?

Wintersun HARDLY sounds like Children of Bodom...I hope you took the time to listen to their album the entire way through - Jari's vocals are much, much different (and more dynamic). The entire Wintersun is more keyboard-dominated and the leads are nowhere near the shredding Alexi Laiho style, but are rather extremely power metal. The drumming is obviosuly far superior as well. In final addition, Jari's songwriting is much, MUCH better than Alexi's - no song sounds the same on their Self-Titled and there is serious poetry in his lyrics.

Wintersun - 65% Power Metal, 35% Death Metal

Children of bodom - 65% Death Metal, 35% Power Metal

[Shadows]

Neither bands have any death metal in them.

[Sleepy]

Neither bands have any death metal in them.

So there is no Melodic Death Metal in either Wintersun or Children of Bodom? Please explain. :confused:

[I'm Charming]

Pardon, good sir?

Wintersun HARDLY sounds like Children of Bodom...I hope you took the time to listen to their album the entire way through - Jari's vocals are much, much different (and more dynamic). The entire Wintersun is more keyboard-dominated and the leads are nowhere near the shredding Alexi Laiho style, but are rather extremely power metal. The drumming is obviosuly far superior as well. In final addition, Jari's songwriting is much, MUCH better than Alexi's - no song sounds the same on their Self-Titled and there is serious poetry in his lyrics.

Wintersun - 65% Power Metal, 35% Death Metal

Children of bodom - 65% Death Metal, 35% Power Metal

They kinda do. I don't think either band has songs that sound the same. Even AYDY, didn't sound alike in most songs. The only ones that sounded at all the same were, Bastards Of Bodom and We're Not Gonna Fall.


Wintersun - 65% Power Metal, 35% Death Metal

Children of bodom - 65% Death Metal, 35% Power Metal

Hmm. Perhaps Melo death. The drumming is nothing like Death Metal.

Alexi could write his lyrics about baboons and it would be just as good. No one listens to CoB for the lyrics. It's all about the guitar/keyboard counterplay.


Neither bands have any death metal in them.

The harsh vocals. Both have elements of melo death.

[COBHC VANCITY]

I haven't heard Wintersun, but Bodom's vocals are not even close to death metal, nor to black metal. If anything, they sound close to power metal, but Alexi's singing is really a genre of it's own, in my opinion.

[Sleepy]

Melodic Death Metal. Melodic is just such a big word and my fingers are ever so tired...

Alexi could write his lyrics about baboons and it would be just as good. No one listens to CoB for the lyrics. It's all about the guitar/keyboard counterplay.

You come to terms with his lyricism when you are doing vocals/bass for a band covering Warheart.

Hmm. Perhaps Melo death. The drumming is nothing like Death Metal.

You're saying Kai Haito's drumming isn't very Death Metal influenced? I think he has very big similarities to Flo of Cryptopsy...listen to Winter Madness (Wintersun) and then Crown of Horns (Cryptopsy) and I think you might see some similarities :thumb:

[Apocalyptic Raids]

CoB have no relation to Death Metal besides harsh vocals, and Bodom's vocals aren't really close to what I would call Death Metal vocals anyway.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Closer to power metal and thrash than anything else.

[AA-12]

Neither bands have any death metal in them.
Well said my brother in arms.

[Shadows]

Sehr gut, komrade.

The harsh vocals. Both have elements of melo death.
Neither have any elements of anything related to death metal.

You're saying Kai Haito's drumming isn't very Death Metal influenced? I think he has very big similarities to Flo of Cryptopsy...listen to Winter Madness (Wintersun) and then Crown of Horns (Cryptopsy) and I think you might see some similarities :thumb:
Not death metal. :)

These bands are power metal, plain and simple.

[Sleepy]

I still disagree - Kai Haito's drumming doesn't remind me much of DragonForce, Blind Guardian, or other such power metal bands.

[Shadows]

The drumming is a pretty small aspect of the band's sound. You could easily make the connection of his drumming with bands in nearly any genre.

[Sleepy]

The drumming is a pretty small aspect of the band's sound. You could easily make the connection of his drumming with bands in nearly any genre.

Except hip-hop? :p

I must disagree with your point, however, and I'm not even a drummer.

My band and I are a prime example of the fact that there is no music without the drums - while we were practicing Warheart we were constantly being shuffled around and thrown of time seemingly without end. We decided that we had to recruit a drummer IMMEDIATELY. Drummers are extremely important to a band's sound - without them it's nigh impossible to keep time. They are extremely essential and can add so much.

[Shadows]

I didn't mean that drums aren't importent, I meant that they don't contribute to the aspects people really remember about a band. Drums carry no melody, and therefore are a very minor factor in determining what genre a band is.

[Mr. Squiggles]

I didn't mean that drums aren't importent, I meant that they don't contribute to the aspects people really remember about a band. Drums carry no melody, and therefore are a very minor factor in determining what genre a band is.

My drummer side is going to have to somewhat disagree.... without blast beats and sickass double bass, metal would not sound like metal.... there might not be a huge differnce between drums in different kinds of metal, but there is between metal and jazz or even metal and rock...

[Shadows]

My drummer side is going to have to somewhat disagree.... without blast beats and sickass double bass, metal would not sound like metal.... there might not be a huge differnce between drums in different kinds of metal, but there is between metal and jazz or even metal and rock...
What about bands like Opeth for example? No blast beats, double bass is used very sparingly, yet still blatantly metal, thanks to the heavy riffs and growled vocals. Some of their heaviest songs are built with jazz-like drum patterns.

[Moses]

Or Mastodon.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Ok, point well taken, drums are not allways an important factor in determining what genre a song/band is, but, there are many cases where they are... Alot of bands use the drums to drive their sound... Arsis, from what I have heard, are very much driven by their drums... Also alot of Amon Amarths sound can be contributed to the drums... I'm not saying that they are what make the band... but they can add alot....

[Shadows]

Oh definitely, bands like Arsis and Cryptopsy wouldn't be half as good without the level of extreme drumming, and that's very common in metal. I
was just pointing out that there can be exceptions.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Yeah, I agree... There are pleanty of exceptions, you don't have to be an all out double bass, super fast, insane drummer to play metal.. I was just saying that they do factor into the sound... but mainly... I just like to give credit to the drums... since I stared playing them, I've realized how much of the music is because of them...

[Moses]

Definately learn to play jazz before metal and you will become an infinately more interesting drummer.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Definately learn to play jazz before metal and you will become an infinately more interesting drummer.

Oh, hell yeah, Jazz drummers are amazing, plus you can use so much of what you learn from Jazz in solos and crap... I just wish I would have started with the Jazz stuff earlier, but oh well....

[Shadows]

Jazz guitar has definitely taught me a lot.

[I'm Charming]

Jazz guitar has definitely taught me a lot.

Give me some insights! I'll never take lessons since I can teach myself anything and ask my dad on musical theory stuff.







You're saying Kai Haito's drumming isn't very Death Metal influenced? I think he has very big similarities to Flo of Cryptopsy...listen to Winter Madness (Wintersun) and then Crown of Horns (Cryptopsy) and I think you might see some similarities :thumb:

A bit late but I meant Jaska. Not Kai.

[purgatory]

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Give me some insights! I'll never take lessons since I can teach myself anything and ask my dad on musical theory stuff. [QUOTE]


I have to wait three years before I can take Music Theory. Consider yourself lucky that you can learn it whenever you want! I envy you!

[I'm Charming]

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Give me some insights! I'll never take lessons since I can teach myself anything and ask my dad on musical theory stuff. [QUOTE]

[QUOTE]
I have to wait three years before I can take Music Theory. Consider yourself lucky that you can learn it whenever you want! I envy you!

lol. I just play w/e until I get it right. For ages I just stayed with easy stuff and in time got very bored. I was playing Static X, Lacuna Coil, Trivium and In Flames' The Quiet Place....It just got really boring. It was too easy and never challenged me. oh yeah. I used to play Hold Back The Day by Devildriver.
(I'd always played Raining Blood and Bloodline) (Not counting those since I still enjoy them and of course play them).

I started working with some CoB riffs and stuff. Just kicked my arse into gear and started learning harder riffs/songs. Then I learned Sixpounder, minus the solos. I'm going to sit down and nail the first solo once I have time.
Currently I'm working on nailing Lashed To The Slave Stick. I think it'll be a couple months before I have that down perfect. I can play all but two riffs of it. I havn't gotten to working on the last two. They will be easy though. I'm kinda sloppy on the chorus and a tad on the string skipping.

Meh.

Moral of the story: If it's easy, don't play it. Push yourself!

[purgatory]

[QUOTE=purgatory]

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Give me some insights! I'll never take lessons since I can teach myself anything and ask my dad on musical theory stuff. [QUOTE]



lol. I just play w/e until I get it right. For ages I just stayed with easy stuff and in time got very bored. I was playing Static X, Lacuna Coil, Trivium and In Flames' The Quiet Place....It just got really boring. It was too easy and never challenged me. oh yeah. I used to play Hold Back The Day by Devildriver.
(I'd always played Raining Blood and Bloodline) (Not counting those since I still enjoy them and of course play them).

I started working with some CoB riffs and stuff. Just kicked my arse into gear and started learning harder riffs/songs. Then I learned Sixpounder, minus the solos. I'm going to sit down and nail the first solo once I have time.
Currently I'm working on nailing Lashed To The Slave Stick. I think it'll be a couple months before I have that down perfect. I can play all but two riffs of it. I havn't gotten to working on the last two. They will be easy though. I'm kinda sloppy on the chorus and a tad on the string skipping.

Meh.

Moral of the story: If it's easy, don't play it. Push yourself!

So far the hardest stuff i know is Chokehold lol. I've only been playing for 2 years though so I'm still somewhat of a noob. I actually JUST starting sweep picking last friday lol.

[I'm Charming]

[QUOTE=I'm Charming][QUOTE=purgatory]

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Give me some insights! I'll never take lessons since I can teach myself anything and ask my dad on musical theory stuff.

So far the hardest stuff i know is Chokehold lol. I've only been playing for 2 years though so I'm still somewhat of a noob. I actually JUST starting sweep picking last friday lol.


Hmm. I've never learned Chokehold. I've played through it and it seemed fairly easy in most parts.

I've played a tad over 2 years, but I do play 3-5 hours everyday. That helps.

I don't work on random techniques, I mostly work on w/e I have to for the song I'm currently learning. Then I practice it to death and nail it. As right now, I'm practicing string skipping non stop, since Lashed To The Slave Stick has so much of it.
I finally forced myself to nail down Pinch Harmonics, because of their being used in Lashed To The Slave Stick.

[purgatory]

[QUOTE=purgatory][QUOTE=I'm Charming][QUOTE=purgatory]




Hmm. I've never learned Chokehold. I've played through it and it seemed fairly easy in most parts.

I've played a tad over 2 years, but I do play 3-5 hours everyday. That helps.

I don't work on random techniques, I mostly work on w/e I have to for the song I'm currently learning. Then I practice it to death and nail it. As right now, I'm practicing string skipping non stop, since Lashed To The Slave Stick has so much of it.
I finally forced myself to nail down Pinch Harmonics, because of their being used in Lashed To The Slave Stick.

So do you know your scales and modes and stuff like that?

[I'm Charming]

So do you know your scales and modes and stuff like that?

Nope. I've never done scales.

Tab or by ear. I will eventually. It's just never been something I thought too be interesting.

I've never had any problems due to a lack of playing scales. Meh.

[Drunken Viking]

I have learned scales, my guitar teacher has been showing me how to read rythms and stuff so that way I can go through my whole A7X City Of Evil tab book, the rythms in that are hard as ****!

Oh yeah and, you guys suck at the whole quote thing. :lol: jk.

[I'm Charming]

I have learned scales, my guitar teacher has been showing me how to read rythms and stuff so that way I can go through my whole A7X City Of Evil tab book, the rythms in that are hard as ****!

Oh yeah and, you guys suck at the whole quote thing. :lol: jk.

Hmm. The only riff I had trouble with outta the few songs I've played off CoE was that harmonzied lead in Burn It Down. The finger position & speed were a bitch.

Oh yeah and, you guys suck at the whole quote thing. :lol: jk.


Thanks champ! :thumb:

[MRDuCran]

I have learned scales, my guitar teacher has been showing me how to read rythms and stuff so that way I can go through my whole A7X City Of Evil tab book, the rythms in that are hard as ****!

Oh yeah and, you guys suck at the whole quote thing. :lol: jk.

I just got into A7X, they got some cool stuff.

[Kurrpt]

i havent heard enough A7X to give my disertation on them as a whole...


on another note, i saw my boy JP on tuesday. Fukking bastards didnt play a single song i wanted them to :upset:

[I'm Charming]

i havent heard enough A7X to give my disertation on them as a whole...


on another note, i saw my boy JP on tuesday. Fukking bastards didnt play a single song i wanted them to :upset:

What did and didn't they play?

[7-Up]

Im Going To Go So Cob On July 4th!!!!

Hopefully:upset:

[purgatory]

What is stopping you?^^^

[I'm Charming]

What is stopping you?^^^


Good question. I'd kill to see CoB again. They are amazing live.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I still havent got to see them

[repcak]

CoB are great live... but not the greatest
NIN live > CoB live :p

[I'm Charming]

man.. im ****ing done with this guitar.

I want a guitar without floyd rose.

When it behaves it's great. KEY ****ING WORD.

I tune it, Lock down the floyd rose... wahh laaa. It's a whole nother note. Take the top string for example,

I tune to a perfect D. When I lock down the tremelo. It's a flat as **** E.

All the strings are doing it.

I've had that problem since I got it though. I got good at tuning flat and when locked down it would be perfect. that of course doesn't work.

It's not the guitarist nor the tuner nor my ears.
The strings aren't ancient either.

\wants a guitar without floyd rose
\rant

[Sleepy]

/Hugs his string-through Schecter

I've never been a fan of Floyd Rose or any other locking trems, for that matter - I almost never use the whammy bar anyway.

[I'm Charming]

/Hugs his string-through Schecter

I've never been a fan of Floyd Rose or any other locking trems, for that matter - I almost never use the whammy bar anyway.

Only time I've ever used it was on some CoB stuff, messed around with some Slayer solos(boring). That's it really.

The guitar has a great feel and excellent action. It sounds great too.

The funny thing is, I was almost dead set on a string through Schecter. Then I found the Jackson which was a lot nicer. It sounded and played so much better.

Now I think not.

[Sleepy]

The guitar has a great feel and excellent action. It sounds great too.

Then it should pull a great price on eBay to nab you the funds for a string-through, right?

EDIT: Not much of a Jackson fan - they can't do much other than metal, and I play a hell of a lot other than metal.

[MRDuCran]

Sucks for people that don't know how to work Floyd Roses.

/can put whole guitar in Bb standard in 2 mins.

[I'm Charming]

Then it should pull a great price on eBay to nab you the funds for a string-through, right?


In theory yes.

In reality no. :mad:

I'm 17 thus can't have a credit card. Thus can't do Paypal. Plus I don't trust paypal and I have first hand knowledge of trying their pathetic security for the hell of it. I wouldn't touch it. My parents wouldn't go for that and I wouldn't myself as I said.
There goes eBay.

[I'm Charming]

Sucks for people that don't know how to work Floyd Roses.

/can put whole guitar in Bb standard in 2 mins.


Lol. I know how to work it. That's not an issue. I'm just fed up with it.

[Sleepy]

In theory yes.

In reality no. :mad:

I'm 17 thus can't have a credit card. Thus can't do Paypal. Plus I don't trust paypal and I have first hand knowledge of trying their pathetic security for the hell of it. I wouldn't touch it. My parents wouldn't go for that and I wouldn't myself as I said.
There goes eBay.

I've never been ripped off on Paypal...ever. I'm 15, so I don't have a credit card either.

Try selling it locally?

[I'm Charming]

I've never been ripped off on Paypal...ever. I'm 15, so I don't have a credit card either.

Try selling it locally?

Yeah something like that. I wouldn't trade it in, keeping it for a paper weight would net more than that.

The problems I was refering to about Paypal were,

Pathetic customer service. If you do get ripped off, your screwed basically. Unless it's something majorly illegal were you could get the cops on your side. They don't have a clue about computers/cyber crime though and just make a report, file it and let it sit.
Second, Someone can get into your email account (childs play) and then get onto your ebay and Paypal accounts with ease. Thus your personal information at great risk. "Security Questions" are like underhanding A-Rod a pitch.
I wouldn't touch it.

[I'm Charming]

Sorry to double post but w/e.

Mitch & any other people who know guitars.

Could I cause damage to my guitar if I just un-screw the bolts to lock the tremelo and take them off?

I can't see that causing any problems. Is that okay to do?

[GenuineImitation]

I dont think it would cause any problems, but I would check in the guitar forums. Tehy seem pretty knowledegable about equipment.

[I'm Charming]

I dont think it would cause any problems, but I would check in the guitar forums. Tehy seem pretty knowledegable about equipment.


Alright. Will do.

[7-Up]

What is stopping you?^^^

well, im not 16+ and i dont look like a hugwe ****ing freak

which will be wierd becuase people will look at me,

my parents dont care if i get stoned , it all coems with the surrounding but they dont want me to be the one smoking it up...

[7-Up]

and i will be with my friend and maybe my cousin...

what should i do?

EDIT: what should i wear also?

[MRDuCran]

Something about bolts


It's fine, it won't stay in tune as well but if you don't use the bar alot, it shouldn't go out much.

[Sleepy]

If the age limit is 16+, Six, and you don't look large/big enough to get in on looks...yeah, you're kinda screwed.

[7-Up]

guess so, my friend is smaller than me and he got to go to see slipknot....

[MegaMustaine]

Have an older brother? Borrow his liscence?

The show I'm catching tomorrow is all ages.

[7-Up]

no dice, i have 3 older sisters:upset:

ill get in, i just need to grtow like 3-4 inches by july 4th

[I'm Charming]

It's fine, it won't stay in tune as well but if you don't use the bar alot, it shouldn't go out much.


Yeah. Only time I ever use the bar if on a couple Bodom riffs. The intro in Everytime I die and that part before the intro solo in Needed 24/7.

I played through Lashed To The Slave Stick, Sixpounder and Raining Blood a couple times each. It wasn't really outta tune. Plus it takes 5 seconds to go up to standard.

This means I'll be learning some DB.:thumb: :thumb:

[Sleepy]

no dice, i have 3 older sisters:upset:

ill get in, i just need to grtow like 3-4 inches by july 4th

Metabolic Steroids?

(Joking)

[I'm Charming]

Dude. Just wear a hoodie/beanie and make your voice sound a little bit deeper. If your halfway convincing you'll be fine.

\can pass for 18+, is 6'3 215 and has a deep voice.

[7-Up]

No!
/childish voice

IM TELLING!

lawl no.. ill grow...

[Sleepy]

Dude. Just wear a hoodie/beanie and make your voice sound a little bit deeper. If your halfway convincing you'll be fine.

\can pass for 18+, is 6'3 215 and has a deep voice.

Uhm...the guy already said he was small, man. But try the deep voice trick just for a lack of other practical options :thumb:

[7-Up]

Dude. Just wear a hoodie/beanie and make your voice sound a little bit deeper. If your halfway convincing you'll be fine.

\can pass for 18+, is 6'3 215 and has a deep voice.


i just have to grow basically.


but i need a bodom hoodie or shirt.

/got wrecked in a fight.

[I'm Charming]

Uhm...the guy already said he was small, man. But try the deep voice trick just for a lack of other practical options :thumb:

Plenty of guys aren't super tall.

I think it's more in how mature your acting/voice.


Oh yeah. Be ready for the security guy to ask your b day if he has any doubts. Then just take your real one with 1987 as the year.

How tall are you and "mature" do you look? Face wise.

[Sleepy]

And if he asks for ID...just leave.

[I'm Charming]

And if he asks for ID...just leave.


Yup.


When he has you hold out your arms and stand straight while he does the "police pat down" of you. Don't make stupid comments.

You should act like you, "know the drill".
ha.

[Sleepy]

Yup.


When he has you hold out your arms and stand straight while he does the "police pat down" of you. Don't make stupid comments.

You should act like you, "know the drill".
ha.

Aye...bomb jokes will land you consecutive strikes to the face in a hurry.

[I'm Charming]

Aye...bomb jokes will land you consecutive strikes to the face in a hurry.


lmao.

I was thinking more of, stupid juvenile comments.

The guys at my CoB show were big guys. I've been told I'd "make a good bouncer" btw. I couldn't have come close to winning a fight against them. They were like 6'5 245 very ripped. Not to be messed with.

haha

[Sleepy]

Eh, gay jokes will probably land you the same punishment.

[I'm Charming]

Eh, gay jokes will probably land you the same punishment.


Yeah. Quite likely.

and....

"yah man, dont touch dat pocket, ive got my drugs in it" will land you driven face first into the ground. :p

[Sleepy]

I love how much we are just whoring posts - that guy isn't even in the thread anymore :p

[I'm Charming]

I love how much we are just whoring posts - that guy isn't even in the thread anymore :p


silence! I'm having fun!

[Sleepy]

If I shut up, then you'll truly be talking to no one in particular. Wouldn't want that now, would we?

Power to the CoB thread sluts!!!

[I'm Charming]

If I shut up, then you'll truly be talking to no one in particular. Wouldn't want that now, would we?

Power to the CoB thread sluts!!!


Damn right.

[Sleepy]

At this rate I'll hit 1k posts in no time.

So, Charming, are you fan of newer CoB or their older stuff?

[I'm Charming]

At this rate I'll hit 1k posts in no time.

So, Charming, are you fan of newer CoB or their older stuff?


Both.

My fav CoB albums are Follow The Reaper and Hatebreeder. I enjoy every song they've ever done, including In The Shadows.

Damn.............I really am a fanboy!

\whores all the Alexi guitar lesson videos, HCDR licks, AYDY licks, Passage To The Reaper, Nosturi full concert TV of the AYDY tour... I think that's all of em.

[Sleepy]

Ah yeah, the Nosturi concert is a fun watch :)

And In The Shadows ****ing rules - I don't see why people have a problem with it.

[I'm Charming]

Ah yeah, the Nosturi concert is a fun watch :)

And In The Shadows ****ing rules - I don't see why people have a problem with it.


Yeah. Both are great.

As I've said, Alexi could sing about baboons and he'd still badarse.

[Sleepy]

Yeah. Both are great.

As I've said, Alexi could sing about baboons and he'd still badarse.

Don't give him any ideas...at least the lyrics are still intelligible (up until some of Hate Crew Deathroll and Are You Dead Yet). I rather liked Something Wild and Hatebreeder lyrics.

[I'm Charming]

Don't give him any ideas...at least the lyrics are still intelligible (up until some of Hate Crew Deathroll and Are You Dead Yet). I rather liked Something Wild and Hatebreeder lyrics.

Maybe he could do a concept album about The Baboon, Chimp and Dragon Alliance.

I've never had a problem with Alexi's lyrics. I always have liked the Bodom lyrics relating to the whole murder thing.

\works of history

I liked the lyrics on Needled 24/7 and a couple other new ones.

[Sleepy]

Well, the history of Lake Bodom is quite interesting - the lyrics even moreso.

[I'm Charming]

Well, the history of Lake Bodom is quite interesting - the lyrics even moreso.


Yup.

\has spent hours reading about it.


Meh. 3 peoples lives to bring us a great band like CoB is a small price to pay. Compare to Black Metal, those guys are nutcases.

You read about Mayhem and all those guys?

[Sleepy]

About the suicide, brain stew, murder and attempted prison escape?

Yep, I'm on the ball.

[AA-12]

Varg Vikernes > All.

That guy is crazy yet oh so awesome.

[I'm Charming]

About the suicide, brain stew, murder and attempted prison escape?

Yep, I'm on the ball.

Dead and his raven he'd smell to "inhale the smell of death". How he'd bury his clothes and dig them up... oh yeah the suicide. Which became an album cover. The guitarist who took the pix and was into all that sick & twisted pr0n. Who "supossedly" cooked his brain and ate it......and made the necklace. Then to be killed by Varg.

Meh. Why couldn't they have all burned down in one of their arson blazes? yes they made great music, but were also some of the biggest nutcases I've ever read/heard about.


Varg Vikernes > All.

That guy is crazy yet oh so awesome.


Isn't that the ****ed up truth.

[Sleepy]

Dead and his raven he'd smell to "inhale the smell of death". How he'd bury his clothes and dig them up... oh yeah the suicide. Which became an album cover. The guitarist who took the pix and was into all that sick & twisted pr0n. Who "supossedly" cooked his brain and ate it......and made the necklace. Then to be killed by Varg.

Meh. Why couldn't they have all burned down in one of their arson blazes? yes they made great music, but were also some of the biggest nutcases I've ever read/heard about.


Amen - they were out of their minds. However, some of it could've been publicity stunts.

[Shattered_Future]

Man, read Lords Of Chaos. That book is FULL of insight about just about everything...

[Sleepy]

Man, read Lords Of Chaos. That book is FULL of insight about just about everything...

Who's the author? I'll look it up right now.

[Shattered_Future]

I know one is Didrik Soderlind (or some spelling like that), no idea who the other is. Both are Norwegian, I believe...

[Sleepy]

I know one is Didrik Soderlind (or some spelling like that), no idea who the other is. Both are Norwegian, I believe...

Aye...Norweigian names...that'll be a hell of a treat for searching >.<

[Shattered_Future]

That it will. :p

It's published by Feral House...that may help some in your search.

[Sleepy]

The Rise of Satanic Metal? My mom will have a field day when I ask her if I could buy that...Jeebus. Maybe I can get my hands on a used copy from a bookstore.

[Shattered_Future]

Hahahahaha...

I wrote it off as a research tool. That's how I managed to get it. :p

It's an absurdly interesting book though...

[Apocalypticon]

Didrik Soderland is one of the authors and the other one is Micheal Moynihan. And if you guess wanna learn more about the whole Norwegian Black Metal scene involving Varg and others check out the documentary Satan Rides the Media, it's in Norwegian but has subtitles and has many interviews including some with Varg Vikernes himself.

[Sleepy]

Hahahahaha...

I wrote it off as a research tool. That's how I managed to get it. :p

It's an absurdly interesting book though...

Won't work for a pair of middle-aged, Conservative Republican Episcopalians. Cons of being raised in a religious family :angry:

[GenuineImitation]

Won't work for a pair of middle-aged, Conservative Republican Episcopalians. Cons of being raised in a religious family :angry:


Same for me. Just switch Episcopalians with Roman Catholic.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

My family aren't religous at all.

[Sleepy]

Same for me. Just switch Episcopalians with Roman Catholic.

Sounds even more restrictive >.<

It's kind of odd to sit and watch my whole family pray around the dinner table, though. They respect my Atheism, but I can't help feeling like the odd man out.

[GenuineImitation]

Sounds even more restrictive >.<

It's kind of odd to sit and watch my whole family pray around the dinner table, though. They respect my Atheism, but I can't help feeling like the odd man out.

Yes and no. My parents dont care if I listen to metal, as long as its not satanic. For example, when listening to Nile, they ask: "is this a satanic band victor?" I respond by saying "they are singing about Jesus mom."

I dont listen to much satanic metal anyway, so its not a problem.

[Toaster]

The Rise of Satanic Metal? My mom will have a field day when I ask her if I could buy that...Jeebus. Maybe I can get my hands on a used copy from a bookstore.

Wow, thanks very much for turning me on to this book, everyone. I never even knew it existed.. I'm definitely getting it and it's death metal counterpart.

[Shattered_Future]

Excellent, excellent book. Really interesting quotations in it.

I classify my family as "unpracticing Christians". We celebrate major holidays (Christmas, Easter) and that's about it.

[Sleepy]

Eh, my family just asks if the music I'm listening to preaches white supremacy. They assume it's all demonic.

[Toaster]

My family's very strict about it. I have to hide many of my albums, lest I find myself having to attend church. *shudder*

[Sleepy]

My family's very strict about it. I have to hide many of my albums, lest I find myself having to attend church. *shudder*

My strategy to counter this:

Step 1) Get caught, either purposefully or by accident.

Step 2) Bring an mp3 player to Church.

Step 3) Blast Nordic Black Metal and show your mom how cool it is.

Step 4) There is no Step 4. She'll probably never let you within a half mile of a Church again.

[I'm Charming]

My strategy to counter this:

Step 1) Get caught, either purposefully or by accident.

Step 2) Bring an mp3 player to Church.

Step 3) Blast Nordic Black Metal and show your mom how cool it is.

Step 4) There is no Step 4. She'll probably never let you within a half mile of a Church again.

Actually, she'd just take away his mp3 player and metal music. That's what would happen.

My family is non religous. Only time I've ever been in a church was for a funeral. That's it.

I'm fairly anti christ though. (not satanic).

My personal opinion on religous people is the following,

They are mentally ill. It's just a friend they made it to feel better. If someone did that without calling it "god", they'd land themselves a "5150".
They are deceiving themselves and helping deceiving others by being part of it all.
Religion brings out the worst in people,
example, All this "In the name of Muhammud" stuff over in the middle east, the radicals who blow up abortion clinics. We all know that bombing and wrecking havoc upon people is the way to set the moral high ground.

It's also just a form of mind control and another way for insecure men to control women stupid enough to following this crap.

I could go on for ages. I'll stop here. :thumb:

[purgatory]

^ This is very similar to how I feel.

[I'm Charming]

^ This is very similar to how I feel.


How different? Anything you want to add on?

[blue3]

My parents used to make me go to church. They still try to, but I usually can't cause of work. Ugh, work..

[I'm Charming]

My parents used to make me go to church. They still try to, but I usually can't cause of work. Ugh, work..


You can always say your sick and don't want to throw up all over "the house of the lord". That should work.

If you really wanna get em going, quote anything I said from my opinion on religion as a whole up there.

[blue3]

That's your opinion, not mine. And I'm rarely sick so that's not believable. I never go there anymore anyway.

[I'm Charming]

That's your opinion, not mine. And I'm rarely sick so that's not believable. I never go there anymore anyway.


Well. Then burn in your lies. :thumb:

[blue3]

no u

I just realized that I'm past 5000 and I don't remember what my 5000th post was. So..yay?

[I'm Charming]

no u

I just realized that I'm past 5000 and I don't remember what my 5000th post was. So..yay?


I had my 3000th a couple days ago.

In the CoB thread. FTW

[blue3]

Oh, yeah, so was mine... >_>

[I'm Charming]

Oh, yeah, so was mine... >_>


yay! :chug:

[repcak]

I classify my family as "unpracticing Christians". We celebrate major holidays (Christmas, Easter) and that's about it.
its the same case in my situation. i only have to go to church 2x a year.


i will call myself not satanic but anti-christian. last christmas i wished to get the "satanic bible" by anton lavey ... hm ... i think you can imagine what my parents said. :eek: we had a looooong discussion about what satanism is, am i satanist and what metal in general is... yeah, they even thought that metal is evil :smash: i had to explain them the whole way-of-life and philosophy of metal, though my dad listened to led zeppelin and black sabbath when he was young.

i listen to metal for years now and after such a long time, my parents realized that i listen to this kind of music and thats bad... or that thats the reason i am interested in satanism; but only cause i am interested in satanism doesn't mean that i AM satanistic. i only want to know more about it, than the general ppl outside the world.

they should accept me who i am! the best thing is that since they look at my angrily when i dress black (they don't want me to buy black clothes anymore), that i listen to agressive music and so on :angry: they wanna change me: no metal, no black clothes, no anti-christians philosophy cause thats bad... muahaha... nietzsche, lavey... lol

i needed about 1-2months after i enlightened them what metal is... blabla. now they accept me the way i am, but still don't like it.... well they tolerate it, but don't accept it... yeah, thats the better way to describe it


the only good thing is that, i don't see my parents that often... i live in vienna, my parents don't. i visit them once a month... the next time i will see them on easter.

[I'm Charming]

. nietzsche,
.

God is dead. nietzsche.
nietzsche is dead. God.

That's how it goes right?


Yeah. I'm anti religon overall. Read my post a page or two back if you didn't see it.

I see people who believe in "god" as mentally ill. Just creating a false person in their mind.

[The Sandman]

Got totally no idea what how this discussion started buuuut...I read all this stuff about Satanism a while ago and got kind of interested. I'm not a Satanist however. Also it's blown out to be way worse than it actually is, I think.

I don't think my parents object to me listening to metal too much. If they did I guess it'd also just make listening to aggressive stuff better. So yeah...:smash:

I never go to church by the way. Maybe I'll end up in hell. But apparently if you don't believe in x religion you'll go to hell anyway, so least I won't get lonely.

[The Sandman]

God is more or less an adults imaginary friend...

And no I can't find the edit button...

[I'm Charming]

Got totally no idea what how this discussion started buuuut...I read all this stuff about Satanism a while ago and got kind of interested. I'm not a Satanist however. Also it's blown out to be way worse than it actually is, I think.

I don't think my parents object to me listening to metal too much. If they did I guess it'd also just make listening to aggressive stuff better. So yeah...:smash:

I never go to church by the way. Maybe I'll end up in hell. But apparently if you don't believe in x religion you'll go to hell anyway, so least I won't get lonely.


Nope. We can get lapdances from chicks on fire. damn. HOT!

[The Sandman]

Precisely.

What's there to do in Heaven?

I mean...must get pretty chilly up there...and all those aeroplanes.

AND HOW WOULD YOU TOAST YOUR MARSHMELLOWS!!11?1!

[Concubine]

God is dead

I see people who believe in "god" as mentally ill. Just creating a false person in their mind.

ahh interesting statement... I'm not the most religious person or anything, but i do go to church like 2x a month, i'm catholic btw... How come you came up with conclusion that "people who believe in God as mentally ill"??

[I'm Charming]

ahh interesting statement... I'm not the most religious person or anything, but i do go to church like 2x a month, i'm catholic btw... How come you came up with conclusion that "people who believe in God as mentally ill"??

I'll gladly explain.

In my theory, "God" is nothing more than an imaginery friend. A person or theme to throw as a blanket over a persons problems/issues/troubles.

Since we're going to consider that an imaginary friend. Lets talk about that.

If a "rational" person had belived in this higher power yet didn't call it "God" or hail towards a mainstream religion. This person would be on a 5150 faster than you can say, BAM!.
They would say the person has auditory and visual halucinations. Plus an imagary friend.

There is no difference between both situations.
Just dressing it up with this lovely word, "God".

It's just a way to control people by means of fear and another way for insecure males to control women.

[The Sandman]

Very well said.

[I'm Charming]

Very well said.


Thank you.


I'd like to add.

Religion is used in many ways to justify evil.

Look at the middle east. All the terrorism, bombings, killing and such are done "in the name of...".
Look at the abortion clinic bombings, which are done "in the name of morals...".
I'm personally anti abortion, however....

Terror and violence is no way to set a "Moral Highground".

For anyone who doesn't know what a "5150" is,

It's an "involuntary hold" for 72 hours at a mental hospital. If your deemed sane, they release within that 72 hours. If your insane, a danger to yourself or others or just really damn loony. They keep you.

[Concubine]

wow, i don't know how to responds to that... It seems to me that your mind is already set about this... I'm not going to judge you or anything.. I am asian, and from where i came from, religion is quite important.. However, i do understand that people has different perspectives about this.. It's just never occured to me that someone has such a negative view about God.. But anyway, it's just a matter of different beliefs, i guess... Let's just leave it that way, shall we???:chug:

[Concubine]

Look at the middle east. All the terrorism, bombings, killing and such are done "in the name of...".


Ugh yeah, i guess Moeslims(sp?) is a little bit extreme about their stuff.. It's not the religion's fault or anything.. You have to understand that many factors, such as money, etc come into play.. So, it's the people, not the religion.. I could understand how you came up with such opinion, though...

[The Sandman]

Some of the greatest bloodshed's in history have been because of religion.

Loner: If the last line was in anyway directed at me then, sure.

[I'm Charming]

wow, i don't know how to responds to that... It seems to me that your mind is already set about this... I'm not going to judge you or anything.. I am asian, and from where i came from, religion is quite important.. However, i do understand that people has different perspectives about this.. It's just never occured to me that someone has such a negative view about God.. But anyway, it's just a matter of different beliefs, i guess... Let's just leave it that way, shall we???:chug:

We don't need to argue on points where neither will give in. No. :chug:

Correct me if I'm wrong,

I've always understood Asian culture to be very much geared towards respecting and learning from ones, family, past, country and ancestors. I've always understood religion and spirituality to be a tool used in guiding such.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

For the record.
I reject all religions including Satanism.

Another issue I have is,

Each religon claims to be the "true & real one".
If you ask a christian, they would say their church is wrong and "jewish faith followers will go to hell since they don't believe in the right god". Muslems would say, they have the right answers and christians are wrong.

If they all claim to the be the right one, how do I know who's lying and for real?
They can't "all be the right one".

[The Sandman]

Hence my reference to us all going to this alleged(sp?) hell

[I'm Charming]

I believe being a good person is something you became over time. You really grow and learn you whole life.

Values are beliefs you gain through experiances and how they impacted you as a human being.

I don't see it as something you can "ask for and be granted'.

I see it as continued self growth over time and something that's shaped.

[I'm Charming]

Hence my reference to us all going to this alleged(sp?) hell


Well. lets say we're all wrong here.

We wind up in this hell.
You gotta realize, strippers and sluts will be there too. So I don't think it'd be all bad. :p

I can't find the edit botton. Sorry.

[The Sandman]

I'm guilty of doing it as well...the edit button's proving to be terribly elusive tonight.

[Concubine]

We don't need to argue on points where neither will give in. No. :chug:

Correct me if I'm wrong,

I've always understood Asian culture to be very much geared towards respecting and learning from ones, family, past, country and ancestors. I've always understood religion and spirituality to be a tool used in guiding such.


Correct


Each religon claims to be the "true & real one".
If you ask a christian, they would say their church is wrong and "jewish faith followers will go to hell since they don't believe in the right god". Muslems would say, they have the right answers and christians are wrong.

If they all claim to the be the right one, how do I know who's lying and for real?
They can't "all be the right one".

I don't speak for every Catholics or anything, but in my country (Indonesia that is) we never said that our religion is the truest, or anything like that.. That's why i feel comfortable being a Catholic as i am right now.. I have many friends from all different religions, even the atheists ones and we get along just fine...

[I'm Charming]

Correct


Alright good. I like it be correct. :thumb:

I don't speak for every Catholics or anything, but in my country (Indonesia that is) we never said that our religion is the truest, or anything like that.. That's why i feel comfortable being a Catholic as i am right now.. I have many friends from all different religions, even the atheists ones and we get along just fine...

Alright. I've never met you, your friends nor your church so I can't speak to that exactly.

It's been told to me many a time by people I've known. From different religions that if you were "fill in the blank" you're the same as a "heathen" since you didn't "take jesus as your savoir and ask for your sins to be forgiven" in their context.

[Concubine]

I believe being a good person is something you became over time. You really grow and learn you whole life.

Values are beliefs you gain through experiances and how they impacted you as a human being.



That's exactly how i feel.. Being a good person is all that matters... You could go to church everyday, and still doing bad things.. It comes down to the person, i think..

[I'm Charming]

That's exactly how i feel.. Being a good person is all that matters... And religion is just a way for me to achieve that..

Alright. I won't argue with your personal beliefs.

I just feel that being a good person is something learned over time and you change as you grow older. You have many experiences in life and that's what shapes your personality. How you're impacted by "said event" changes your outlook to however you see it.

wtf wtf wtf...omgz... An intelligent debate in the CoB thread tonight, was there a miracle?

[The Sandman]

Everyone must have got the wrong thread.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I know everyone already knew that but I thought I'd state it again to make this slightly more meaningful.

Everything would be boring if we all had the same thoughts, idea's and beliefs.

[I'm Charming]

Everything would be boring if we all had the same thoughts, idea's and beliefs.

A golden point. It's one of the most true things in life.

[Concubine]

Alright. I won't argue with your personal beliefs.

I just feel that being a good person is something learned over time and you change as you grow older. You have many experiences in life and that's what shapes your personality. How you're impacted by "said event" changes your outlook to however you see it.

wtf wtf wtf...omgz... An intelligent debate in the CoB thread tonight, was there a miracle?

hahahah, i'm trying to find used CoB's cds here in Australia, because all the new ones are damn expensive... :p

[I'm Charming]

hahahah, i'm trying to find used CoB's cds here in Australia, because all the new ones are damn expensive... :p


Hmm.

Yarr!

\is the MX Official Pirate

I love bit torrent personally

[Concubine]

Hmm.

Yarr!

\is the MX Official Pirate

I love bit torrent personally

Torrent? is it some kind of P2P program? Anyway, my homestay folks wouldn't let me use P2P program to download stuff, so...
I have Are You Dead Yet? and some of the songs are good, and the others aren't so much.. The other CoB song that i've heard are Needled 24/7 and Bed Of razors, love both of them...:thumb:

[I'm Charming]

Torrent? is it some kind of P2P program? Anyway, my homestay folks wouldn't let me use P2P program to download stuff, so...
I have Are You Dead Yet? and some of the songs are good, and the others aren't so much.. The other CoB song that i've heard are Needled 24/7 and Bed Of razors, love both of them...:thumb:


It's p2p in a sense, though a tad different. To answer what your parents would ask, yes you're pirating copyrighted music, games, movies etc etc.

AYDY is CoB's weakest effort, though it's good.

Bed Of Razors is on Hatebreeder. Which is their second best album.
Needled 24/7 is on Hate Crew Deathroll.
HCDR has some of their heaviest and best works on it.
Hatebreeder is much lighter and more lead guitar oriented. Not that HCDR isn't by any means. :p

CoB's best album would be Follow The Reaper. It has an incredle amount of great guitar leads/solos and keyboard work. It's the album that combines guitar and keys the best.

[Concubine]

It's p2p in a sense, though a tad different. To answer what your parents would ask, yes you're pirating copyrighted music, games, movies etc etc.

AYDY is CoB's weakest effort, though it's good.

Bed Of Razors is on Hatebreeder. Which is their second best album.
Needled 24/7 is on Hate Crew Deathroll.
HCDR has some of their heaviest and best works on it.
Hatebreeder is much lighter and more lead guitar oriented. Not that HCDR isn't by any means. :p

CoB's best album would be Follow The Reaper. It has an incredle amount of great guitar leads/solos and keyboard work. It's the album that combines guitar and keys the best.

i take your words for it, since you seems like a CoB fanboy:p , i would just buy any of their older albums, as long as it cheap, though...:p

[The Sandman]

Yeah, I agree with I'm Charming. Follow the Reaper is the way to go. Then probably Hate Crew Deathroll. Hatebreeder is also brilliant but is fairly similiar to FtR.

On a completely different note...my parents aren't letting me go out and do stuff with friends and stay at some chick's house whom I admittedly don't know but all my friends do. So they're not letting me go because they don't know her parents and presume I'm going to get knifed/raped by them.

Hate Me! is sounding really good at the moment...:angry:

[I'm Charming]

i take your words for it, since you seems like a CoB fanboy:p , i would just buy any of their older albums, as long as it cheap, though...:p

That I am. I'm IMO the number 1 CoB fanboy on these boards. Mitch (MrDuCran) would be second. Ben (ShadowsFallen) third. Though we'd all fight to the death for that title.

Get Follow The Reaper since it's a blend of Hatebreeder and HCDR. It was inbetween those releases.

Then if you like leads/solos more go with Hatebreeder next, if you want heavy go with HCDR.

[I'm Charming]

So they're not letting me go because they don't know her parents and presume I'm going to get knifed/raped by them.

Hate Me! is sounding really good at the moment...:angry:

Your a guy right?

If so... Wow. That's a good laugh.

[The Sandman]

Yes I am a guy.

I think I'll try and completely ignore my parents tomorrow. Just for kicks.

But now I'm off to bed. Night peoples.

[I'm Charming]

Yes I am a guy.

I think I'll try and completely ignore my parents tomorrow. Just for kicks.

But now I'm off to bed. Night peoples.


haha. If you read this before you go to sleep.

Just scream RAPPPPPPE. In the middle of tonight. Watch your parents jump up and run to your room. Then just say you had a bad dream.

You gotta shreik it too. No deep male voice.

or just yell burglar. That won't fail either.

[Concubine]

Hey I'm Charming, how old are you and what country are you from? Just out of curiousity... i'm not familiar with MX member... Do you also know other MX member in real life, if you do that would be cool...

[I'm Charming]

Hey I'm Charming, how old are you and what country are you from? Just out of curiousity... i'm not familiar with MX member... Do you also know other MX member in real life, if you do that would be cool...

No. I don't know any MXers in real life. I chat with a few on AIM though.

I'm 17, my first year of college and I'm living in Oregon, US. Though Oregon is awful. The people are wretched.

I'll move back to Cali once I have funds.

[Concubine]

No. I don't know any MXers in real life. I chat with a few on AIM though.

I'm 17, my first year of college and I'm living in Oregon, US. Though Oregon is awful. The people are wretched.

I'll move back to Cali once I have funds.

Ahh i see, i think most of MX members are from US, right? i wish there are other Indonesian/Asians here.. Are they?
I'm 19 btw, damn i feel old..:p ,

[I'm Charming]

Umm. A lot are from/live in Europe.

There are plenty from Aussieland.

[I'm Charming]

Alright. It's been a goodnight of posting and debate.

I shall bid MX farwell now. :thumb: :chug: :wave:

Goodnight.

[Concubine]

Yeah i noticed there a few Australians on MX.. I'm surprised that there's almost no Asians here...

[I'm Charming]

Yeah i noticed there a few Australians on MX.. I'm surprised that there's almost no Asians here...


I'm sure ther're a few.

[Concubine]

Good night everyone, i'm going to bed too...

[repcak]

Ahh i see, i think most of MX members are from US, right? i wish there are other Indonesian/Asians here.. Are they?
I'm 19 btw, damn i feel old..:p ,
well... not the oldest. i am 20 1/2 and live in europe. i think i am the only one from austria here :smash:

back to the religious debate:
first of all, i do understand I'm Charmings opinion that religious ppl are ill... i too think the same way, but only about ppl who are really conservative and strict f.e.: go every sunday to church and pray every day. i'm sorry to say that but i can only sneer at such ppl and laugh at them!

one of the main reasons i don't like religions at all is the fact that in the name of god a lot of war were fought -> in the middle ages: christians; now: moslems; even jews aren't better. every religion has/had it war!
the only religion i have deep respect of is the (well its more a philosophy than religion) philosophy of buddhism. i read a lot about it and i believe in reincarnation.

btw. back to the topic of hell... do you really think hell is a bad place? imagine who you will meet there? Alexi Laiho, Robert Plant, Marilyn Manson, etc. :chug:
Oscar Wilde once said: "Die klimatischen Bedingungen in der Hölle sind sicher unerfreulich, aber die Gesellschaft dort wäre von Interesse." (translation: the climatic conditions in hell are unpleasant, but the society would be of interest. :p )

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Umm. A lot are from/live in Europe.

There are plenty from Aussieland.
I'd say most are from North America, closely followed by the UK.

I have noticed a heap of new users that are from Australia. Not too many that have been here a while though.