Children Of Bodom

[Shadows]

Punk to me would be "**** the goverment, anarchy is the way to go". Besides, metal is about the music. Alexi says himself that he's a terrible lyricist, and I certainly don't listen to them because I like his lyrics. As long as the music stays metal, which it is, they'll be a metal band.

[Sleepy]

They seem extremely punk to me, the entire goal is to say I'm rebelling and you can't control me, that is one of the most punk concepts there is.

First metal band - Black Sabbath (to my knowledge). Debut hit North America in 1970, a few years earlier back in jolly ole' England. If Warpigs isn't a song about rebellion (against the government, too), then I'll be damned. Looks like punk was influenced by metal, not the other way around.

Rebellion and a general distaste for mainstream society is one of the core values in metal (and punk). However, metal introduced it first, and with much more musical prowess, to boot.

[IheartSP]

Not all punk is political you know.

It's not all about the lyrics either it's about the attitude, and Alexi has the same attitude with his music. He's always all like well this is what we make and were going to do it, it used to be much more about focusing on composition and melody, it was much more in touch with the classical roots.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

The Arsis lyrics were very metal and many people will tell you those Bodom lyrics are certainly not even close.
You seem to have this idea that Metal lyrics have to talk about fantasy, or at least talk about the theme in a fantasy style.

I don't think all the genres of metal have a common lyrical style. It differs alot.

[IheartSP]

First metal band - Black Sabbath (to my knowledge). Debut hit North America in 1970, a few years earlier back in jolly ole' England. If Warpigs isn't a song about rebellion (against the government, too), then I'll be damned. Looks like punk was influenced by metal, not the other way around.

Rebellion and a general distaste for mainstream society is one of the core values in metal (and punk). However, metal introduced it first, and with much more musical prowess, to boot.
I think we've had this discussion before, Sabbath was the first band to introduce metal but they werent the first 100% metal band, they were as much rock as they were metal. I think Maiden was the first band to be truley metal.

[Shadows]

Sabbath sounds more metal to me than Maiden.

[Sleepy]

I think we've had this discussion before, Sabbath was the first band to introduce metal but they werent the first 100% metal band, they were as much rock as they were metal. I think Maiden was the first band to be truley metal.

Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills

That's a song that gives a big, happy middle finger to the American government for exploiting and inditing Native American Indians. More rebellion against the government there.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I think Maiden was the first band to be truley metal.
I have three words for you:

JUDAS ****ING PRIEST.

[IheartSP]

It's hard for anything to be "more metal than Maiden" seeing as they are, well cmon man it's frickin Maiden! I can see a lot of songs being as metal as Maiden, but Sweet Leaf, Fairies Where Boots, Paranoid, those are definately not as metal as Maiden.

[IheartSP]

I have three words for you:

JUDAS ****ING PRIEST.
I'm not familiar with anything before British Steel

Jacob Run to the Hills is also about 17th century Englishmen and Indians lol.

[Shadows]

It's hard for anything to be "more metal than Maiden" seeing as they are, well cmon man it's frickin Maiden! I can see a lot of songs being as metal as Maiden, but Sweet Leaf, Fairies Where Boots, Paranoid, those are definately not as metal as Maiden.
To me, Maiden is very far from the definition of metal that people make them out to be.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I'm not familiar with anything before British Steel

Jacob Run to the Hills is also about 17th century Englishmen and Indians lol.
Well you should be, because Maiden owe everything to what Judas Priest did before British Steel.

[IheartSP]

I forgot your not a Maiden fan, I guess you'd have to be to understand the greatness of Maiden. I'm a pretty strong athiest and if I was to take up religion it'd be worshipping them.

AR I think I've heard the Ripper which is indeed a very metal song.

[I'm Charming]

IHeartSP has been getting owned over the last 3 pages.

That's all I have to say.

[guitrguy]

I forgot your not a Maiden fan, I guess you'd have to be to understand the greatness of Maiden. I'm a pretty strong athiest and if I was to take up religion it'd be worshipping them.

AR I think I've heard the Ripper which is indeed a very metal song.
Vice versa for Judas Preist.

[PsychoticFlubber]

This might have been posted earlier, but the AYDY? vid is on Scythes of Bodom... it's very disapointing.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

it sucks

[I'm Charming]

I can't describe how sick that video made me.

What the **** happened? Oh wait. Trying to appease americans.

Nothing in that video had jack **** to do with the song even.

[Shattered_Future]

Going back to Priest, they were around before Maiden, and you can hear some of their sound in Maiden.

[I'm Charming]

Going back to Priest, they were around before Maiden, and you can hear some of their sound in Maiden.


Priest > Maiden FTW

[blue3]

I like Maiden more.

[Shadows]

I really liked the video. The shots of the band playing were awesome.

[AA-12]

Seriously, I just watched the video. It's awesome. What's up with people?

[Shadows]

I have no idea. Suddenly everyone thinks they know exactly what's going through their minds. The thing is hardly different from any of their other videos anyway.

[Silenius]

**** Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.

[I'm Charming]

**** Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.

Quoted for idiocy.

[Sleepy]

**** Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.

Quoted for truth.

[Shadows]

Quoted for idiocy.
Quoted for truth.
Quoted for conflict.

[I'm Charming]

Quoted for conflict.

Quoted for the hell of it.

[COBHC VANCITY]

hello.

[I'm Charming]

hello.

Welcome to planet hell, may I take your order?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

**** Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.
quoted for gay

:-P

[Ist Nein Kreig]

hello.


Hello... you!

She's my pleasure, she's my... PAIN!

[I'm Charming]

Hello... you!

She's my pleasure, she's my... PAIN!

That was lame. Your can't do intro to n00bs because you're one yourself.

[Father]

hello ..anyone here goona catch COB and Slayer

[Ist Nein Kreig]

That was lame. Your can't do intro to n00bs because you're one yourself.

Go listen to The Black Dahlia Murder. :wave:

[Sleepy]

Go listen to The Black Dahlia Murder. :wave:

Look at his name. I think he's heard of TBDM before :p

[I'm Charming]

Look at his name. I think he's heard of TBDM before :p

haha. Yeah... I'm a big fan of TBDM.

He's just an idiot n00b, don't mind him.

[MRDuCran]

hello.

Hello.

How come you've got CoB in your user name, Aleix in your avatar, and have that many posts but never been here before??


hello ..anyone here goona catch COB and Slayer

If it comes to England, then I will, but I think it's US only.

[COBHC VANCITY]

Hello.

How come you've got CoB in your user name, Aleix in your avatar, and have that many posts but never been here before??


well ive spent all of my time so far in the guitar forum, i just discovered this thread. it seems nice.
:smoke:


btw, avatar suggestion:

as alexi headbangs, make it go faster and faster until his head explodes. i think that would be awesome.

[MRDuCran]

:lol: That would be awesome, Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to actually do it though.

But yeah, this thread is ok, more off topic stuff than on topic but that's just cause we've talked about most stuff already, so please feel free to keep it Bodom related.

[AA-12]

Guys, I finally got BAM set up again, but on a free site until I can get my server to work with the forum software. Here's the link: http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=bodomaftermidni Join up :-)

[I'm Charming]

Guys, I finally got BAM set up again, but on a free site until I can get my server to work with the forum software. Here's the link: http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=bodomaftermidni Join up :-)


What kinda server you running?

[AA-12]

What kinda server you running?
I'm just using one through dreamhost.

TBDM are an awful band. :thumb:
TBDM = Awesome.

[guitrguy]

I disagree. :)
Whats your point? You can disagree with every little thing.

[MRDuCran]

So Dylan, what's going on with your forum thing, seems to have died.

[I'm Charming]

So Dylan, what's going on with your forum thing, seems to have died.

I took up hacking myspace profiles to re direct them. To my site of choice. I got that done. That was my computer related project until I got it worked out this weekend. (of course only between my own, to figure it out, not other peoples)

Yah it died. I suppose theres no need for it, the daily upload is great and run very well.

[COBHC VANCITY]

:lol: That would be awesome, Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to actually do it though.

But yeah, this thread is ok, more off topic stuff than on topic but that's just cause we've talked about most stuff already, so please feel free to keep it Bodom related.
yeah i bet, ive never seen such a long thread.

have you talked about how lame alexi's lyrics are?

the old stuff is all about the reaper is going to kill you with his scythe,
and the new stuff (are you dead yet) just.. sucks. does anyone notice that?

[AA-12]

I love the old Bodom lyrics. Not a big fan on the new though.

[I'm Charming]

I love the old Bodom lyrics. Not a big fan on the new though.

Alexi isn't the best lyricist. That's for sure.

[blue3]

Yeah, but it doesn't really matter.

[MRDuCran]

I don't take notice of lyrics, the music is what's important. I like his style of singing though.

[I'm Charming]

I don't take notice of lyrics, the music is what's important. I like his style of singing though.

Yes. I rarely read lyrics, unless I become obsessed with a song or band. Then I'll read all their lyrics.

[Shadows]

The new lyrics are great. The old ones kind of suck.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

The new lyrics suck big-time. The old ones less so.
fixed

:-P

[Apocalyptic Raids]

worst.joke.ever

[AA-12]

I love you.

:-* :-*
go die....

Are you dead yet?
(cheesey i know)
This post made me spit up my coke. :chug:

[Po0sH]

New video sux.

[Alex]

^ which one, the in your face video.... i thought it was ok only because i like the fact that Alexi yells "i dont give a flying ****!!!! like fifteen times in the songworst.joke.ever
yah it was pretty bad i know



This post made me spit up my coke. :chug:

if thats a good thing, thank you :D
if not, u go die to

[AA-12]

I got him banned. Should help a little bit.

[Sleepy]

Internet fights are just like the special olympics...

...even if you win, you're still a retard.

[I'm Charming]

I got him banned. Should help a little bit.


I reported him in R&M a while ago.

Team effort! :thumb:

[Shattered_Future]

Got who banned now?

Although I do kinda agree with that dude back there, TBDM aren't anything special.

FuryInArt...cruel as hell. I like it. :thumb:

[AA-12]

Although I do kinda agree with that dude back there, TBDM aren't anything special.

They definitely have talent though. BAM Forums are back by the way, link on the last page in case you missed it.

[Shattered_Future]

They have talent, sure, but they play horribly generic music, IMO.

Awesome. Thanks for settin it up again. :thumb:

[AA-12]

Generic? Blah, listen to more of their music. :p

No problem. I wanted it setup on my server, but I had some problems, so for now it's on the free one which isn't really a problem.

[Shattered_Future]

Shouldn't be a problem...only about 5 people ever post there. :p

The one song I heard by them didn't strike me as special...decent licks in there though.

[I'm Charming]

They definitely have talent though.


Yes they do. I enjoy their albums quite a bit. Miasma was generic in parts though. I liked Unhollowed more. You can't deny that the breakdown in "Spite Suicide" isn't sick... Everything drops out for a moment with just the bass remaining.... Damn that's brutal.

[MRDuCran]

Has anyone heard the actual classical version of the Passage to the Reaper demonstration 1? I'm listening to it now, it's cool.

Vivaldi \m/

[I'm Charming]

Has anyone heard the actual classical version of the Passage to the Reaper demonstration 1? I'm listening to it now, it's cool.

Vivaldi \m/

The four Seasons :thumb:

[MRDuCran]

Yeah. Before last week, I'd only heard the Spring movement, that was the first time I actually bothered to listen out for bit they play.

[AA-12]

Yeah, Vivaldi = Genius.

[I'm Charming]

Yeah, Vivaldi = Genius.

tr00f

How'd you get such a huge avatar?

[AA-12]

Haha, inside joke type thing between me and Dan (Liberi).

[MRDuCran]

It's the Presto movement of Summer. I said to my friend that it was summer, he was like, well it doesn't sound very summery, being in Gminor an all.

[repcak]

so, i'm back again...

Vivaldi is great... right after seeing Passage to the Reaper i took the 4seasons-cd by vivaldi from my parents and listened to all of them :D

[COBHC VANCITY]

what is Passage to the Reaper, and what does it have to do with Vivaldi?

The four Seasons was on TV last nite, it was amazing.

[AA-12]

Passage of the Reaper = A video with Alexi Laiho.

[repcak]

a guitar-video with alexi laiho and roope latvalla. you see them together playing the summer-theme by vivaldi on their guitars.


edit: can anyone upload the new "Are You Dead, Yet?" video? would be great...

[MRDuCran]

go to scythes of bodom and watch it

[Invicta_Veritas]

I could never really get into CoB....never really "heavy" enough for me.....of course I bought like their most hated album (HDR) and liked a couple tracks, but I'm much more of a death/gothenburg person I guess.......CoB is just a wierd sounding power/thrash band to me.


....----likes Sixpounder

[MRDuCran]

HCDR isn't the most hated.

[Invicta_Veritas]

When I first got it it was.......everybody was like "that's the worst ever".......of course, now it's "are you dead yet is the worst"........I was going to buy it, then decided not to.....so i think ill give follow the reaper a shot......after that though, if I cant dig it, I'll give up on CoB......

[I'm Charming]

I could never really get into CoB....never really "heavy" enough for me.....r

CoB not heavy? Are you deaf son?

[Shadows]

Gothenburg is heavy but CoB isn't? We're sounding a little backwards here.

[AA-12]

Gothenburg is heavy but CoB isn't? We're sounding a little backwards here.
Oh stop with that gay **** and listen to some tr00 heavy as **** Atreyu tracks.

(kidding atreyu_breakingbenjamin, but you should get that username changed)

[Mr. Squiggles]

When I first got it it was.......everybody was like "that's the worst ever".......of course, now it's "are you dead yet is the worst"........I was going to buy it, then decided not to.....so i think ill give follow the reaper a shot......after that though, if I cant dig it, I'll give up on CoB......

If you listen to them, and still don't like them, thats fine. But at least your giving it a shot... alot of people will just say they suck without out even checking them out...

[Alex]

have any of u guys seen bodom on their current tour, im goin on friday and was wondering what the set list will be like.
Hopefully i dont die in the mosh pit, lol i only weight 105 pounds but ****, i can take pain. anyways, anyone know the setlists or what it may be like. Thanx in advance

btw, thats an amazing chin Necronomicon

CoB not heavy? Are you deaf son?
they actually arent that heavey compared to some bands, like slipknot, i dont like them but they are really heavy in my opinion. CoB is still quite heavy though.

[COBHC VANCITY]

they actually arent that heavey compared to some bands, like slipknot, i dont like them but they are really heavy in my opinion. CoB is still quite heavy though.

:lol:
slipknot heavier than Bodom?? i think not.

btw, can this Passage to the Reaper video be downloaded, or do you have to buy it?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I'm suprised you like Gothenburg stuff, but not Bodom. Most people I've come across who like Bodom have liked GOtherburg as well.

[MRDuCran]

have any of u guys seen bodom on their current tour, im goin on friday and was wondering what the set list will be like.
Hopefully i dont die in the mosh pit, lol i only weight 105 pounds but ****, i can take pain. anyways, anyone know the setlists or what it may be like. Thanx in advance

It looks something like this:

-Deadnight Warrior
-WarHeart
-Towards Dead End
-Downfall
-Follow The Reaper
-Every Time I Die
-Hate Me!
-Needled 24/7
-Chokehold
-Angels Don't Kill
-Hate Crew Deathroll
-Living Dead Beat
-Are You Dead Yet?
-In Your Face
-We're Not Gonna Fall


they actually arent that heavey compared to some bands, like Meshuggah and Nile, i dont like them but they are really heavy in my opinion. CoB is still quite heavy though.

Fix'd. :thumb:

btw, can this Passage to the Reaper video be downloaded, or do you have to buy it?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=631637608019324056&q=Passage+to+the+Reaper

[COBHC VANCITY]

they actually arent that heavey compared to some bands, like Cannibal Corpse, Emperor, Amon Amarth, i dont like them but they are really heavy in my opinion. CoB is still quite heavy though.
Fix'd.:thumb:

PS thanks for the link MRDuCran

[I'm Charming]

they actually arent that heavey compared to some bands, like slipknot, i dont like them but they are really heavy in my opinion. CoB is still quite heavy though.

Wow. I havn't laughed that hard in a while. Your an idiot. :p :p :p

If you want really heavy, As Mitch said. Go with Nile and Meshuggah (who both are insanely great). Arsis is pretty heavy as well.

[MRDuCran]

No problem.

I was thinking Cannibal Corpse actually to put for my post but some of the production sucks, but then again, same with Nile, I was just thinking of Cast Down the Heretic from their new album. And Meshuggah, well...Meshuggah.

[I'm Charming]

No problem.

I was thinking Cannibal Corpse actually to put for my post but some of the production sucks, but then again, same with Nile, I was just thinking of Cast Down the Heretic from their new album. And Meshuggah, well...Meshuggah.

8 string guitars tuned to Drop F.

Enough said.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

:lol:
slipknot heavier than Bodom?? i think not.




Slipknot is heavier than bodom,when i first heard bodom i didnt think they were heavy enough really

[COBHC VANCITY]

wow. you must not really know what heavy means.

for me, bad production ads to the heaviness. as does the intensity of the music, how strongly they believe in it and how passionate the artists are.
not just drop tunings and heavy riffs.

for example, i find black metal the heaviest because theyre so crazy about what they do.

but obviously low growling vocals etc like cannibal corpse contributes to heaviness as well... i guess it all depends how you look at it.

[MRDuCran]

ohshi, i sense an argument between manda and dylan :eek:

and everyone else


8 string guitars tuned to Drop F.

Enough said.


Winah.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Im not going to bother everyone has there own opinions

[I'm Charming]

Slipknot is heavier than bodom,when i first heard bodom i didnt think they were heavy enough really

Just because Bodom doesn't tune down to Drop A or Drop B as Slipknot does to make up for lack or talent/creativity doesn't make Slipknot heavier.

There are more factors than just how heavy riffs sound.

You have to consider,

The feel of the music
Mood
Vocals
Bass
Drumming
Lyrical/musicial/overall song theme
and many more factors...

IMO, Neither Slipknot nor Bodom are near the heaviest out there.

Nile, Meshuggah, Arsis(quite brutal), Cannibal Corpse, Necrophagist, Opeth(some very heavy songs), Behemoth, Hypocrisy(the virus album is downright brutal&intense), Green Day(insane blast beats).... Those are all much heavier.

ohshi, i sense an argument between manda and dylan :eek:

and everyone else

I think your the "winah" on that point. :p

[Invicta_Veritas]

Heavieness has no true, tangible definition.

CoB just doesn't have the heavy sort of feel for me, but I will still try to check out some of thier older stuff.

It is true that crappy production adds to heaviness, but only sometimes. Six Feet Under is a crappily produced version of Cannibal Corpse, but I think CC is better.

I really don't think that My liking of Gothenburg obligates me to like CoB, but in any way, I never said CoB were bad, I simply don't listen to them on a routine basis......just not my style for some reason.


(people should start lobbying for DBJ to change my account name.......he won't listen to me haha)

[I'm Charming]

Heavieness has no true, tangible definition.

CoB just doesn't have the heavy sort of feel for me, but I will still try to check out some of thier older stuff.

It is true that crappy production adds to heaviness, but only sometimes. Six Feet Under is a crappily produced version of Cannibal Corpse, but I think CC is better.

I really don't think that My liking of Gothenburg obligates me to like CoB, but in any way, I never said CoB were bad, I simply don't listen to them on a routine basis......just not my style for some reason.


(people should start lobbying for DBJ to change my account name.......he won't listen to me haha)


I'll post there later. If I have time.

[COBHC VANCITY]

Just because Bodom doesn't tune down to Drop A or Drop B as Slipknot does to make up for lack or talent/creativity doesn't make Slipknot heavier.

There are more factors than just how heavy riffs sound.

You have to consider,

The feel of the music
Mood
Vocals
Bass
Drumming
Lyrical/musicial/overall song theme
and many more factors...

IMO, Neither Slipknot nor Bodom are near the heaviest out there.

Nile, Meshuggah, Arsis(quite brutal), Cannibal Corpse, Necrophagist, Opeth(some very heavy songs), Behemoth, Hypocrisy(the virus album is downright brutal&intense), Green Day(insane blast beats).... Those are all much heavier.


:lol:

[Invicta_Veritas]

Yea......the Green day sticks out like a sore thumb in that mix........

[COBHC VANCITY]

i think he was kidding..

[AA-12]

Slipknot is heavier than bodom,when i first heard bodom i didnt think they were heavy enough really
Uh, Slipknot is nothing but poppy crap. Not heavy at all. Linkin Park is heavier than them.

[I'm Charming]

i think he was kidding..

yup.

[Moses]

I don't think CoB is heavy at all. I mean they are more metal than Slipknot but I think Slipknot is heavier.

[Invicta_Veritas]

yup.


Good......I would have had to start eating people.....:naughty:

[I'm Charming]

Good......I would have had to start eating people.....:naughty:

haha.

We should praise Limp Bizkit for their amazing sweeps. In addition, I'd like to praise Death Cab For Cutie for their steller Growls and gravity beats.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I'd also like to thank Linkin Park for thier huge influence, and amazingly eloquent lyrics, without you guys we would never be here

****applause and screams from the crowd******

[I'm Charming]

I'd also like to thank Linkin Park for thier huge influence, and amazingly eloquent lyrics, without you guys we would never be here

****applause and screams from the crowd******

Thank you. That was touching... :cool:

I'd to thank Fred Durst, for giving me the ability to realize what immaturity really was....

Me: Age 12
=
Fred Durst: Last few years

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Uh, Slipknot is nothing but poppy crap. Not heavy at all. Linkin Park is heavier than them.


Theres something wrong with you,your very confused.Slipknots new album may be **** but Iowa was heavy to me.Like i said peopl ehave there own opinions and Linkin park needs to go die ok they suck and so does Fred Durst

[I'm Charming]

Theres something wrong with you,your very confused.Slipknots new album may be **** but Iowa was heavy to me.Like i said peopl ehave there own opinions and Linkin park needs to go die ok they suck and so does Fred Durst

Nah... Fred is god! I give thanks to him everynight.

Vol 3 is the best and only good Slipknot album.

What are you doing up at 5am, Mandy?

[MRDuCran]

Stop all the fukkin Slipknot bashing ffs.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Stop all the fukkin Slipknot bashing ffs.
Agreed.

I don't like them, but I don't feel the need to crap on about it everytime they come up.

[repcak]

go to scythes of bodom and watch it
where do i have to go?!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

http://www.scythes-of-bodom.com/, I would assume.

[repcak]

ah... i never visited this page... nice :D thanks

[AA-12]

Theres something wrong with you,your very confused.Slipknots new album may be **** but Iowa was heavy to me.Like i said peopl ehave there own opinions and Linkin park needs to go die ok they suck and so does Fred Durst
Slipknot is a gimmick. That's all they are and all they will ever be.

This thred needs more Fred http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2136979112372093841&q=fred+durst

[Mechanix72]

I starting getting into the thrashy metal so I checked Children of Bodom out and they were pretty awesome. Mask of Sanity is a good song.

[Shred Danson]

I starting getting into the thrashy metal so I checked Children of Bodom out and they were pretty awesome. Mask of Sanity is a good song.

Please, oh please, for the love of God don't start calling Bodom thrash...but it's cool you're gettin' into 'em. :chug:

What's up with all the "nu-metal" talk in here?

[repcak]

stop bashing Nu-Metal. without nu-metal i won't listen to metal today and to be serious i still like some bands and albums.

@fred durst: i even bought the album "chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavoured water" and i liked it. i haven't listen to this album for years, but i know that some songs are really good.

ps.: i listen to korn and even Linkin Park... yes i like them, beside Death metal like Nile, Necrophagist, Behemoth!

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Nah... Fred is god! I give thanks to him everynight.

Vol 3 is the best and only good Slipknot album.

What are you doing up at 5am, Mandy?

Had to work just got on to email Mitch and look at the forums :)

Fred Durst is stupid he shouldnt have been allowed to make albums

[AA-12]

stop bashing Nu-Metal. without nu-metal i won't listen to metal today and to be serious i still like some bands and albums.

@fred durst: i even bought the album "chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavoured water" and i liked it. i haven't listen to this album for years, but i know that some songs are really good.

ps.: i listen to korn and even Linkin Park... yes i like them, beside Death metal like Nile, Necrophagist, Behemoth!
Yeah, I like Korn, Limp Bizit, and Linkin Park also, so don't get me wrong.

[l Tristan l]

does anyone know the setlist for the current US tour?

[Invicta_Veritas]

I feel the incessant need to slap some people in here.

[Forlorn Hope]

I feel the incessant need to slap some people in here.
Can't touch this :p


What's the time? Hammer-time!


(fails at humorous attempt) :upset:

[COBHC VANCITY]

does anyone know the setlist for the current US tour?
go back a page or 2, MDuCran posted it.

[Shadows]

Can't touch this :p


What's the time? Hammer-time!


(fails at humorous attempt) :upset:
I'm ashamed to call you a fellow buckeye.

:p

[Sleepy]

Nu-Metal got me into metal as well. But does that mean I have to still like it? No. I am embarassed that I listened to Nu-Metal at a time in my life, even if it did spark my interest in heavier music.

[COBHC VANCITY]

I used to listen to Nu-metal... but it's certainly not what got me into heavier music... because... it isn't heavy. It's totally different then any real metal, I would have never listened to Bodom or anything like that when I listened to Linkin Park, Slipknot, all those bands.

[I'm Charming]

NP Godsmack (gotten back into em) :p

[Invicta_Veritas]

".....and the hammer shall fall upon those who fail at false pretense of metal, forever condemning the traitors to certain fire in epic hell!"

NP: Nile- Sarcophygus

[I'm Charming]

".....and the hammer shall fall upon those who fail at false pretense of metal, forever condemning the traitors to certain fire in epic hell!"

NP: Nile- Sarcophygus

One of my favorite Nile songs.

[Invicta_Veritas]

One of my favorite Nile songs.


.......and indeed one of the best.

[I'm Charming]

.......and indeed one of the best.


They are all great.

\listens to Kill

Lacuna Coil's new album is awful. The first three songs are neat. Then it just goes south. Very south.

The guitars and bass dominate the songs. Neither is a strong point for LC. The vocals fall back in the shadows. The drumming is different and improved. All in all... The first three songs are neat, rest is crap.

The guitars sound downtuned from the already heavy BEADGBE. It really sounds like Korn, but not as good.(ouch).

[AA-12]

Not like they have ever been good anyway :-\

[I'm Charming]

Not like they have ever been good anyway :-\


Lacuna?

Utter nonsense.

Until Comalies they were great. Comalies was decent but over synthed.

[blue3]

NP Godsmack (gotten back into em) :pOh.. I thought you meant the Alice In Chains song

[repcak]

whats up with the official CoB homepage? under construction? are they making a new one, or do they have problems with the server...?

[blue3]

Says 'server stopped'.

[repcak]

you can read it?
"Ðàáîòà ñåðâåðà îñòàíîâëåíà
Îáðàòèòåñü â ñëóæáó ïîääåðæêè" -> thats all what i see :lol:

[Shadows Within]

you guys see the new headbangers ball?... i didn't :angry:

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

They said it sucked and cob performed lousy

[purgatory]

i know they were lousy when i saw them.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Not like they have ever been good anyway :-\



You deserve terrible things........:angry:

[Shadows Within]

They said it sucked and cob performed lousy
no i mean there new video

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

it sucks as well,i was shocked when i saw it i couldnt beleive they made a video like that,u only see Alexi or the band maybe what three times omg

[repcak]

the video is awful... everyone says that. i haven't met a person who likes it *g*

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

i saw a person post they thought it was a great video and didnt know what everyone else was talking about *rolls eyes* that person needs serious help,i wanted to see the band not other stupid people

[I'm Charming]

that person needs serious help.

It's solace in my heart, knowing that person's best friend is cold steel in his mouth. Yeah. :thumb:



i wanted to see the band not other stupid people

Yes! Not some cheesy, lame and american pleasing "scene".

Score two good points for Mandy. :chug:

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

lol :thumb: thank ya i do try :p

[I'm Charming]

lol :thumb: thank ya i do try :p

:p

Finals week blows.... haha. I'm bored now that I'm home. :mad:

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

welcome to my world,good luck to you on finals

[I'm Charming]

welcome to my world,good luck to you on finals

Thanks. I know I nailed the Judical Process one today. That's good.

haha. I''m trying to come up with a creative script or something. My mind is blank though.

I have next week off and that should be sweet. :thumb:

[blue3]

you can read it?
"Ðàáîòà ñåðâåðà îñòàíîâëåíà
Îáðàòèòåñü â ñëóæáó ïîääåðæêè" -> thats all what i see :lol:At the top of the page says server stoped. On the actual page it says what you posted.

[I'm Charming]

At the top of the page says server stoped. On the actual page it says what you posted.

They need to drink less and maintain their servers better. :thumb:

[Shadows]

the video is awful... everyone says that. i haven't met a person who likes it *g*
I really like it.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

so your the person who doesnt know anything lol

[I'm Charming]

I really like it.

\shakes Ben violently

[Shadows]

Seriously, what's wrong with the video?

[Forlorn Hope]

Well, for one, they didn't even show Alexi playing the cool parts of the solo. God I hate it when bands don't show the solos in their videos!
The words flashed around the bottom were kinda cheesy too. Hmmm, what else...:p

[Shadows]

I meant, why do people get the idea that the band sold out with it?

[Sleepy]

The band kinda sold out with AYDY, if you ask me. They can redeem themselves if they go back to their Something Wild/Hatebreeder Golden Age, though. I'm hoping for a good new release that doesn't further their progression as an Americanized band.

[I'm Charming]

I meant, why do people get the idea that the band sold out with it?


It was just to appease american kidiots who "omg i lyk listen to bodom how hard core am iz".... Yeah.

[Shadows]

It was just to appease american kidiots who "omg i lyk listen to bodom how hard core am iz".... Yeah.
What is it about the video that makes you think that?

[Forlorn Hope]

I meant, why do people get the idea that the band sold out with it?
Oh...I wouldn't say they sold out on it. I just think they couldh've done better. Either way, Are You Dead Yet video > no video at all

[Sleepy]

Are You Dead Yet video > no video at all

Quality > Quantity

They could've done without it.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Oh...I wouldn't say they sold out on it. I just think they couldh've done better. Either way, Are You Dead Yet video > no video at all

Yeah, I have to agree with you there... the video wasn't great... but it is better than nothin...

[I'm Charming]

Quality > Quantity

They could've done without it.

Quoted for utter truth within. :thumb:

Ben: The theme of the video. It's very oriented towards 12-15 year olds IMO.

The chicks and cops stuff. Just very immature.

EDIT: It also had nothing to do with the songs lyrics.

[Shadows]

Videos almost never have anything to do with a song's lyrics. I also don't see how the cops/chicks are geared for 12-15 year olds. Sixpounder had almost the exact same theme and Every Time I Die had a guy in a cheesy *** grim reaper costume running through the woods, but this video is immature?

[I'm Charming]

Videos almost never have anything to do with a song's lyrics. I also don't see how the cops/chicks are geared for 12-15 year olds. Sixpounder had almost the exact same theme and Every Time I Die had a guy in a cheesy *** grim reaper costume running through the woods, but this video is immature?

Yes it is.

Everytime I die's video was okay.

Needled 24/7 has the best video, seconded by TL&S.

[Shadows]

That really makes no sense.

[I'm Charming]

That really makes no sense.

No. Your pathetic argument in favor of this new video does.

Explain why it's good?

[Shadows]

I'm still waiting for a real reason as to why it's bad.

The cut shots to Alexi screaming and playing guitar were great, with the distorted effect and shifting angles. The lit banner behind the band made the stage look very epic while they were playing. The theme stuff (cops/chicks) only took up half of the video, but I'm neutral on that. It wasn't really relevant to anything but it wasn't bad. It's almost identical to Sixpounder when the woman was beaten and kidnapped for no reason - a cop tracks a guy down and takes him away, but no one knows why.

[I'm Charming]

I'm still waiting for a real reason as to why it's bad.

The cut shots to Alexi screaming and playing guitar were great, with the distorted effect and shifting angles. The lit banner behind the band made the stage look very epic while they were playing. The theme stuff (cops/chicks) only took up half of the video, but I'm neutral on that. It wasn't really relevant to anything but it wasn't bad. It's almost identical to Sixpounder when the woman was beaten and kidnapped for no reason - a cop tracks a guy down and takes him away, but no one knows why.


The cop/chick theme is very immature. The distorted scenes were cool, I did like those. They don't save it though. As said, it doesn't show Alexi playing the cool parts. It has nothing to do with the song.

Reasons enough?

[Shadows]

Enough. It seems to me that not liking it is one thing, but accusing them of selling out because you think one aspect was immature is a bit extreme.

Then again, I get really angry when people say bands sell out, no matter who it is.

[I'm Charming]

Enough. It seems to me that not liking it is one thing, but accusing them of selling out because you think one aspect was immature is a bit extreme.

Then again, I get really angry when people say bands sell out, no matter who it is.


haha I still love Bodom. ALOTTTT.

No love for their music has drained from my body.

Lets be clear on that.

I've been in love with Shadows Fall over the last few days. I can't stop listening to them. :p
Thoughts without Words, Destroyer Of Senses, Welcome To The Machine, The Light That Blinds, The Power Of I And I, Inspiration On Demand, Casting Shade, Enlightened By The Cold, A Fire In Babylon, The Idiot Box to name a few favorites. :chug:

I'd say the video was towards selling out because of who it was aimed at.

[Shadows]

I've been in love with Shadows Fall over the last few days. I can't stop listening to them. :p
You've made my day!

Those are all great songs, you just need to get some Of One Blood material in there. Amazing stuff.

[I'm Charming]

You've made my day!

Those are all great songs, you just need to get some Of One Blood material in there. Amazing stuff.

Aww!

I have to download that album. I've heard good things about it.

I think Shadows Fall ranks within the top 5 Metal bands for the US.

[Sleepy]

I think Shadows Fall ranks within the top 5 Metal bands for the US.

Must say I disagree...but this is the CoB thread.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Oh... Shadows Fall discussion....

I just heard some of the stuff off of The War Within... I don't really like it as much as The Art of Ballance or what I have heard from Of One Blood... but it's still kickass...

[I'm Charming]

Oh... Shadows Fall discussion....

but it's still kickass...


Only important part from that.

It's great stuff.

[Shadows]

Oh... Shadows Fall discussion....

I just heard some of the stuff off of The War Within... I don't really like it as much as The Art of Ballance or what I have heard from Of One Blood... but it's still kickass...
I feel the same way. What have you heard from Of One Blood?

[Mr. Squiggles]

I feel the same way. What have you heard from Of One Blood?

I have only heard a few songs... Crushing Belial, Fleshold, and To Ashes and are all that are coming to mind...

[Shadows]

I have only heard a few songs... Crushing Belial, Fleshold, and To Ashes and are all that are coming to mind...
Crushing Belial and To Ashes are incredible songs, but you really need The First Nobel Truth, Of One Blood, and Serenity.

[I'm Charming]

Crushing Belial and To Ashes are incredible songs, but you really need The First Nobel Truth, Of One Blood, and Serenity.


i'm going to download this later.

\must hear

[Mr. Squiggles]

i'm going to download this later.

\must hear

Yeah me to... allthough I would rather buy the album... I guess I'll have to download it as a temp untill I get the money....

[AA-12]

Lacuna?

Utter nonsense.

Until Comalies they were great. Comalies was decent but over synthed.
I've heard nearly every album, and despise every song, heh.
the video is awful... everyone says that. i haven't met a person who likes it *g*
I do.
i saw a person post they thought it was a great video and didnt know what everyone else was talking about *rolls eyes* that person needs serious help,i wanted to see the band not other stupid people
Um, so let me see here. They need help because of your opinion? Oh, gotcha...
so your the person who doesnt know anything lol
That's just immature bs.

I'm starting to hate this thread and MX :-\

[I'm Charming]

I'm starting to hate this thread and MX :-\

Go take refuge on your own forum with 5 people. :p :p :p

[AA-12]

Go take refuge on your own forum with 5 people. :p :p :p
Heh, I mainly post/lurk on Living With Style Forums now. Still like this place a bit though.

[I'm Charming]

Heh, I mainly post/lurk on Living With Style Forums now. Still like this place a bit though.

Living With Style?

I mostly post on TOTSE. Plus a couple computer forums/hacker forums. lol.

I post plenty but I don't stay much here on MX. Just stop in here and there during the time I'm on the computer.

[AA-12]

Living With Style?

I mostly post on TOTSE. Plus a couple computer forums/hacker forums. lol.

I post plenty but I don't stay much here on MX. Just stop in here and there during the time I'm on the computer.
What exactly is TOTSE? LWS = www.livingwithstyle.com

[I'm Charming]

What exactly is TOTSE? LWS = www.livingwithstyle.com

Google it. Posting the link on here wouldn't be smart. (not porn or bad) (just not a link for MX).

Google TOTSE and it should come right up.

EDIT: way to link so well! Those computer forums are sad. Then again much of TOTSE's are as well.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I've heard nearly every album, and despise every song, heh.

I do.

Um, so let me see here. They need help because of your opinion? Oh, gotcha...

That's just immature bs.

I'm starting to hate this thread and MX :-\


Take a joke man,and yeah it was stupid they do need help

[I'm Charming]

Take a joke man,and yeah it was stupid they do need help

Mandy's sense of style > Joshs

[Invicta_Veritas]

You all make me laugh.

[I'm Charming]

You all make me laugh.


That comment was so cold.

[Invicta_Veritas]

That comment was so cold.


I know :p

[MRDuCran]

Gay.

[AA-12]

EDIT: way to link so well! Those computer forums are sad. Then again much of TOTSE's are as well.
TOTSE looks pretty good. Why don't you like the computer forums at LWS? Some of the best i've found.

[I'm Charming]

TOTSE looks pretty good. Why don't you like the computer forums at LWS? Some of the best i've found.

OC Club is the best.

The questions & threads were rather basic from looking at a couple pages worth.

TOTSE is pretty sweet. SG & Half Baked are just idiots if you didn't notice. Bad Ideas is rather similar in terms of the posters IQ's.

There are some interesting text files in the archives but plenty of junk.

[SimonCore]

TOTSE looks pretty good. Why don't you like the computer forums at LWS? Some of the best i've found.

Why is your avatar a swastika?

[MRDuCran]

I ordered Something Wild the other night, should be here in abou a week, that'll mean I'll then own all CoB albums, excep Tokyo Warhearts, which I will get once I have some more money.

[Sleepy]

I ordered Something Wild the other night, should be here in abou a week, that'll mean I'll then own all CoB albums, excep Tokyo Warhearts, which I will get once I have some more money.

I love Tokyo Warhearts. It has to be one of the best live albums ever.

[I'm Charming]

I love Tokyo Warhearts. It has to be one of the best live albums ever.

Yes it is. Touch Like Angel Of Death is better live.

[repcak]

the intro to "touch like angel of death" is wonderful... when i first listen to it, i couldn't stop... i listened to this song 5-10x a day, during a whole week :D

[I'm Charming]

the intro to "touch like angel of death" is wonderful... when i first listen to it, i couldn't stop... i listened to this song 5-10x a day, during a whole week :D

I need to listen to it more actually. It's insanely good.

NP: Lashed To The ****ing Slave Stick!

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

ive nvr heard that song i dont think,could someone email it to me?

[I'm Charming]

ive nvr heard that song i dont think,could someone email it to me?

MSN!

I'll have to rip it though. I could send it tonight or tomorrow.

I'm about to go jam or maybe write some stuff ..

[Sleepy]

Bloodred, if you're talking about Lashed to the Slave Stick...that's Nile, not CoB

NP: Cast Down the Heretic

(Gotta love Nile)

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

naa im talking about "touch like angel of death" but thank you for telling me


and yeah please send it through MSN no rush just whenever u have time if u dont mind thx

[Turbojugend]

CoB is filled with fantastic musicians, sadly the music itself rarely does anything for me. When I feel like moshing for no particular reason I might put some Bodom on, but no, it's not something I can't live without.

In your face!

[Sleepy]

CoB is filled with fantastic musicians, sadly the music itself rarely does anything for me. When I feel like moshing for no particular reason I might put some Bodom on, but no, it's not something I can't live without.

In your face!

What CoB albums do you have?

If all you have is Are You Dead Yet or Hatecrew Deathroll...you might be gravely mistaken in your opinion. I recommend Hatebreeder and Something Wild over ANY of their newest stuff.

[Shadows]

Why is your avatar a swastika?
It's not. It's an Indian symbol representing good luck.

the intro to "touch like angel of death" is wonderful... when i first listen to it, i couldn't stop... i listened to this song 5-10x a day, during a whole week :D
I'm pretty sure the intro was lifted from another song or piece.

[Sleepy]

It USED TO BE an Indian symbol representing good luck.


/Fixed

[Shadows]

/Fixed
The direction of the legs is the determining factor.

It will always be that symbol though. People have a negative connotation of it but that doesn't change the meaning.

[Sleepy]

The direction of the legs is the determining factor.

It will always be that symbol though. People have a negative connotation of it but that doesn't change the meaning.

And the meaning doesn't change people's negative connotations.

Nazi basher forever :smoke:

[Shadows]

And the meaning doesn't change people's negative connotations.
You shouldn't let a made up idea cloud the real meaning behind something.

I don't like nazis either, but I'm not going to fear something because I think it may be remotely related to them.

[Sleepy]

You shouldn't let a made up idea cloud the real meaning behind something.

I don't like nazis either, but I'm not going to fear something because I think it may be remotely related to them.

I'm definitely not afraid of Nazis...I just think their principles are morals are near the standard of your average junkyard dog.

Me :smash: ----> Nazis

[I'm Charming]

We've been through this debate before when Josh had this avatar. I'm going to look on almighty wikipedia and find the answer!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastica

I still find it rather questionable to have that be your avatar. Considering what it's KNOWN as. Even though it has a non-nazi meaning. 99% of people associate it with nazism.

[Sleepy]

Even though it has a non-nazi meaning. 99% of people associate it with nazism.

With pretty good reason.

[I'm Charming]

With pretty good reason.

Yes. Very.

I'm not personally offended by it, however I think many people might be.

[I'm Charming]

I was ripping Something Wild for the daily upload and realize I must have missed In The Shadows last time I ripped it...

NP: In The Shadows and it's IMO the worst CoB song. Though it's not bad.

[Sleepy]

I was ripping Something Wild for the daily upload and realize I must have missed In The Shadows last time I ripped it...

NP: In The Shadows and it's IMO the worst CoB song. Though it's not bad.

There's worse.

Such as most of AYDY.

Hatebreeder + Something Wild FTW

[Shadows]

The worst CoB song is easily Knuckleduster. Luckily the sweet solos redeem it.

I like In the Shadows though. Even the band hates it.

[Invicta_Veritas]

You shouldn't let a made up idea cloud the real meaning behind something.

I don't like nazis either, but I'm not going to fear something because I think it may be remotely related to them.


I'm Jewish, and even I have the sense to actually look before I rush to get offended......

My band went through this whole thing of having a Pentacle as our band symbol (with the baphomet goat head in the middle), and people automatically assumed we were satanic (not knowing the true Pagan and Jewish meanings behind the symbol)......I had to do a lot of explaining to people about that one......

[MRDuCran]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Knuckleduster, I first heard it when I bought the Trashed, Lost and Strungout DVD EP and I like it, especially the first riff.

[I'm Charming]

There's worse.

Such as most of AYDY.

Hatebreeder + Something Wild FTW

AYDY is great. The only song I dislike on there is Next In Line.

[COBHC VANCITY]

YES! just found out the Slayer and CoB tour is coming to my city! holy s hit that will be amazing.. july 13th. im so excited.

btw. something wild < hatebreeder and follow the reaper.

[AA-12]

/Fixed
Yeah, tell my whole ****ing family that and everyone else who isn't a closed minded asshole.

[I'm Charming]

Yeah, tell my whole ****ing family that and everyone else who isn't a closed minded asshole.

Your whole family are skinheads?

Seriously. If you can't understand why someone would say something against displaying swastikas like this, then you have a mental problem.

I read the wikipedia artical. I understand it has constructive meaning and was used in that sense long before hitler came along. I get that.

It's just when you display that, anyones first thought is SKINHEAD! They assume your a white surprimisist. It's logical to think that though. Since the only time I ever hear/see that used, is with "white power" groups.

[blue3]

Listening to Children of Bodom makes me happy. Finding out they're touring near here with Slayer makes me happy, too. You know what doesn't? Aerosmith. So is anyone going to the Edmonton show?

[I'm Charming]

Listening to Children of Bodom makes me happy. Finding out they're touring near here with Slayer makes me happy, too. You know what doesn't? Aerosmith. So is anyone going to the Edmonton show?


No. People don't live in Canada. Cough decent country here Cough

[blue3]

You're right, people don't live in Canada. What the hell was I thinking?!

[I'm Charming]

You're right, people don't live in Canada. What the hell was I thinking?!

Very few. It's rather lame.

Europe > US > my neighbors cat > Canada

[blue3]

Canada > US, that's for sure.

[I'm Charming]

Canada > US, that's for sure.

Nope.

If it wasn't for Bush, this country would be pretty damn good.

We still pwn Canada on our worst day though.

:thumb:

Europe pwns both though. :p

[repcak]

Nope.

If it wasn't for Bush, this country would be pretty damn good.

We still pwn Canada on our worst day though.

:thumb:

Europe pwns both though. :p

thanks :p

[Shadows]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Knuckleduster, I first heard it when I bought the Trashed, Lost and Strungout DVD EP and I like it, especially the first riff.
That song showed me that the band was actually going to take the AYDY route. It scared me at first.

[AA-12]

Yeah, that song was okay, but pretty boring :-\. Had a good flow though.

[MRDuCran]

I agree that it would definately belong on the AYDY album, but I'm an fan it that, and ze song.

[Shred Danson]

I would rather it had been put on AYDY rather than "Trashed...", mainly because I'm so tired of hearing that song :lol: .

[purgatory]

So far the only Bodom that I've worn out has been Follow the Reaper.

[SimonCore]

So far the only Bodom that I've worn out has been Follow the Reaper.

I've been listening to the new album alot lately. I've worn out 'Are you dead yet' and the britney spears cover heh heh heh.

[I'm Charming]

So far the only Bodom that I've worn out has been Follow the Reaper.

I've been taking a break of it as well.

I listen to one or two Bodom albums, put them down and listen to a couple others for a while. Repeat and Recycle through all their albums.

Right now I'm addicted to HCDR and HateBreeder. Just got done with Follow The Reaper and Something Wild.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I have a mix cd of there stuff that i listen to, just all my fav. songs by them

[COBHC VANCITY]

You're right, people don't live in Canada. What the hell was I thinking?!
i live in canada, and i dont pay for health care :naughty:

[Mr. Squiggles]

I have a mix cd of there stuff that i listen to, just all my fav. songs by them

Yeah... I have all of my favorite Bodom stuff on my mp3 player... and every once in a while I go listen to their other stuff