Children Of Bodom

[MRDuCran]

I found this clip from Bodom playing at Wacken, among other artists...Sixpounder. Tis quite good, though they don't do the whole song (none of the bands do), and Alexi is mixed ridiculously low.

Outside stage right? Other bands like Death Angel, Ektomorph, Cannibal Corpse and Motorhead.

I can still hear the solos in it but yeah it isn't the best of mixing.

I've also got a clip of them playing Hate Me from Wacken 2002, but it's a fan camera I think but the quality is good, so I don't know where it comes from.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

u never sleep methinks

[MRDuCran]

I don't. Well at least not at night, that's hunting time.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

What u going to hunt :-P

[I'm Charming]

I don't. Well at least not at night, that's hunting time.

What's there to hunt in the UK?

I don't sleep... Except I don't live on MX. well. that's up for debate.

[MRDuCran]

People.

[I'm Charming]

People.

I'd suggest moving to Oregon, USA if you want to hunt people. Automatic weapons are LEGAL in Oregon. haha. Why the hell they need to be? I have no idea.

[AA-12]

I dl all the CoB albums with one torrent, a little over a year ago.
Yarr.
Pirates For Life :chug:

In related CoB news, I may get to see them here in a few months at an amazing concert.

[MRDuCran]

I'd suggest moving to Oregon, USA if you want to hunt people. Automatic weapons are LEGAL in Oregon. haha. Why the hell they need to be? I have no idea.

Haha wtf.


Ohshi, Bodom are going to be doing a 3RD(!!!) US tour after the Unholy Alliance, wtf again, 3 ****ing US tours promoting one album in one year.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I need to go

[Shattered_Future]

Outside stage right? Other bands like Death Angel, Ektomorph, Cannibal Corpse and Motorhead.

I can still hear the solos in it but yeah it isn't the best of mixing.

I've also got a clip of them playing Hate Me from Wacken 2002, but it's a fan camera I think but the quality is good, so I don't know where it comes from.

Yea, that's the one.

I love the Cannibal Corpse though...watching it makes me think, "I think he's trying to communicate with us!"

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

CoB is too melodic for me. i heard theyre really good live though, so i hope it's true when i see them with LoG mastadon and slayer on the unholy alliance tour this summer

[Apocalyptic Raids]

They are quite good live.

[Shadows]

CoB is too melodic for me. i heard theyre really good live though, so i hope it's true when i see them with LoG mastadon and slayer on the unholy alliance tour this summer
Too melodic? That's a sad thing for a music fan to say. You're eliminating some of the best metal ever written.

[AA-12]

CoB is too melodic for me. i heard theyre really good live though, so i hope it's true when i see them with LoG mastadon and slayer on the unholy alliance tour this summer
Wow....

You're avatar is Lamb of God. Do really realize what LoG tries to do in their music? Have unique melodies and rhythms...

/slams head into wall

[Apocalyptic Raids]

But Bodom are much more melodic than LoG, though.

Well, they were anyway.

[Scuba_Steve]

CoB is too melodic for me. i heard theyre really good live though, so i hope it's true when i see them with LoG mastadon and slayer on the unholy alliance tour this summer


CoB..........too melodic?


Once you hear some other power metal you'll think CoB sounds like hell frozen over.

[MRDuCran]

I was going to say something regarding that comment but I really couldn't be bothered.

[I'm Charming]

I was going to say something regarding that comment but I really couldn't be bothered.

Neither could I.

Syracuse Vs Pitt is worth talking about. Great basketball on...

[Thor]

But Bodom are much more melodic than LoG, though.

Well, they were anyway.
No, they still are.

God, I can't wait to see these guys this summer.

[Shattered_Future]

My friend (who was the most metal-phobic person I've ever met about 6 months ago) is going to this. And he refuses to drive me there.

The bastard. :mad:

[I'm Charming]

My friend (who was the most metal-phobic person I've ever met about 6 months ago) is going to this. And he refuses to drive me there.

The bastard. :mad:

Un-friend him... That's one of the lowest things someone could do.


not just on myspace/AIM

[MRDuCran]

I agree. A "friend" wouldn't do that.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

A friend of mine would gladly

[I'm Charming]

I agree. A "friend" wouldn't do that.

This is true. So very true.

Beat him over the head with a shovel, take his tickets & car... Go yourself.. That would teach him a lesson in friendship. :p

[MRDuCran]

And would be fun too.

[I'm Charming]

And would be fun too.


His parents would be mad because he put dents in the family shovel but, otherwise he'd have a blast.

[MRDuCran]

:lol:

[I'm Charming]

:lol:

Not to wear this shovel joke out but,

He should not only do that, but hit his head nice and shloww.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I thought all my posts were bad

[I'm Charming]

I thought all my posts were bad

nah... Only slipknot fanboyism posts.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

It was part of the convo at the time so yeah i joined in nothing wrong with that

[I'm Charming]

It was part of the convo at the time so yeah i joined in nothing wrong with that

Well... We don't like off topic posting in this thread. :p

What's up Mandy?

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Stay on topic since its a priority of course

[MRDuCran]

Apart from the "these are the albums I have", I can't even remember the last Bodom related thing we talked about.

[Lieutenant Dan]

Yeah I'm just a bit too lazy to sift through 493 pages to find an answer to my question, so I'll just ask it here:

What amps did Alexi use to record Follow the Reaper? I know he uses a Lee Jackson preamp w/ a VHT power amp nowadays, but did he still use that way back when?

[I'm Charming]

Stay on topic since its a priority of course

yes m'am.

Any of the regulars in here heard of Skyfire, if so what do you guys think of them... I downloaded the CD from the Daily Upload and I loved it.

[guitrguy]

yes m'am.

Any of the regulars in here heard of Skyfire, if so what do you guys think of them... I downloaded the CD from the Daily Upload and I loved it.
Execessive synths are a turn off for me, so I refrained from Downloading it.

[I'm Charming]

Execessive synths are a turn off for me, so I refrained from Downloading it.

In general, same for me. I just really loved it.. I guess I just liked the melodies in it.

[Shadows]

:lol:
woah, deep

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Hes always known for giveing great in depth comments like that one lol

[Thor]

My friend (who was the most metal-phobic person I've ever met about 6 months ago) is going to this. And he refuses to drive me there.

The bastard. :mad:
Why won't he drive you? What a dick.

[MRDuCran]

Listen you ****tards, shut the **** up about that ****, I'll post what I want.

Or even better, I just won't post at all.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

Wow....

You're avatar is Lamb of God. Do really realize what LoG tries to do in their music? Have unique melodies and rhythms...

/slams head into wall
yeah dumbass but what i said was CoB is too melodic. that doesnt mean i dont like melodic music at all. read it more carefully and it will make sense

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Listen you ****tards, shut the **** up about that ****, I'll post what I want.

Or even better, I just won't post at all.



:rolleyes: calm down Mitch

[MRDuCran]

Stop rolling your ****ing eyes at me.

[Squirrel]

L0L domestic in CoB thread.

/cue lots of cunts saying 'LOL YOU NEVER POST N E THING GUD IN THIS FREDLOL'

Haha.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

screw you

[Squirrel]

Hahaha.

It just gets better.

[MRDuCran]

She aimed that at me actually dude.

[Squirrel]

orly

and whats got her so annoyed ?

[MRDuCran]

read a few posts above, what ive been saying

[Squirrel]

Listen you ****tards, shut the **** up about that ****, I'll post what I want.

Or even better, I just won't post at all.

:lol:

[MRDuCran]

yeah that. i mean i post one smiley and they jump on me about it, yet most of the talk in here is spam anyway. at least mine was replying to something bodom related. gays

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I was jokeing around about what i said but maybe u looked over the "lol"

[MRDuCran]

people say it to me all the time, everyone obviously means it

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I havent seen anyone say it to you,i think your posts are very good tbh

[AA-12]

I LOVE BEING A HYPOCRITE AND NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!
Oh, gotcha

[Shadows]

This thread has gone waaaaaaay down the shitter.

[MRDuCran]

And we're all responsible.

[Shadows]

Some more than others. :-*

[MRDuCran]

. . . .

[repcak]

the best thing is to stop posting, until the discussion is ontopic again...

/thats what i do

[MRDuCran]

What I want to know is, has Dylan learnt any of that **** from the Young Guitar video??

[repcak]

what i want to know is, how far kurptsenate/Che Guevara has learnt Universal Mind??

[MRDuCran]

He says he's at about 125bpm, that was about 1/2 weeks ago, so who knows now.

I haven't practised it in that long so I probably suck at it now.

[I'm Charming]

What I want to know is, has Dylan learnt any of that **** from the Young Guitar video??


I've been slacking off the last 2 or 3 days with praceticing. I have to finish learning the Nile song, so I can perfect it.

I work on "Move" off and on. Of course the moment I get all of the Nile song up to par, I'm dead set on learning Silent Scream from Slayer.

[MRDuCran]

No offence, but it will actually take years of practise to perfect that.
Considering it's chromatics, string skipping, alternate picking at 180ish...

[Shadows]

Years of practice? You seriously underestimate other people's abilities.

[MRDuCran]

Yes I do.

[repcak]

No offence, but it will actually take years of practise to perfect that.
Considering it's chromatics, string skipping, alternate picking at 180ish...
do you talk about the licks from youg guitar or do you talk about "move" or another song?

do you know this?
Universal Mind (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-137776184800712899&q=universal+mind)

[AA-12]

I'm gonna go learn Universal Mind to see how close I can play it to speed. Vid coming in the future possibly :-O

[repcak]

yeah, i just downloaded the tab and learnt the first beat :D

[Treebeard]

yeah, i just downloaded the tab and learnt the first beat :D

4 notes? You learned 4 notes?

Congratulations.

[MRDuCran]

do you talk about the licks from youg guitar or do you talk about "move" or another song?

do you know this?
Universal Mind (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-137776184800712899&q=universal+mind)

No, I mean Nile's Lashed to the Slave Stick.

I haven't clicked the link, but if it's John Petrucci playing it, I already have it.

[repcak]

4 notes? You learned 4 notes?

Congratulations.
thanks :lol: btw 16notes

7beats :smoke:

[I'm Charming]

No offence, but it will actually take years of practise to perfect that.
Considering it's chromatics, string skipping, alternate picking at 180ish...

I don't mean as good as Karl Sanders, but I know I can get it sounding pretty good. I practiced it for 5 hours today putting a lot more work into it. It'll be a month or two but I know I can get it sounding really good.

Years of practice? You seriously underestimate other people's abilities.

It seems so at times. He knows his stuff though and his recordings were pretty damn good. So he does have plenty of talking room, but not on this.

[AA-12]

Nile isn't that hard guys. Just fast.

[I'm Charming]

Nile isn't that hard guys. Just fast.

Correct.

[MRDuCran]

So:

E-12-13-

at 240bpm isn't hard?

You can compare John Petrucci's playing and John McLaughlin's, both differ in style and what they actually play, but both have difficult solos because of the high speed.

[repcak]

omfg ... i can't believe it... NILE is coming to vienna on 23.4.2006 :D

[MRDuCran]

Apparantly, Nile are coming to Camden UK too.

[Kurrpt]

o sorry for not posting much guys


i got it pretty solid at 125 bpm right now. I kinda put it off, and come back to it ya know. I havent broken the 125 bpm marker with this intro yet. Its the friggin skip to the 20th fret. Im not 100% at it yet.

As far as like the first 3 bars go, i can get it to like 130/135, but like i said, that position change is fukking me, so i slow it down

[repcak]

yeah, the part with the 20th fret, 4th beat, is horrible :angry:

[Kurrpt]

yeah, the part with the 20th fret, 4th beat, is horrible :angry:



actually, its not horrible, i just find a deficiency in my practice regime.


If anything, it taught me i need to work on position shifting with a higher bpm setting. I've taken steps to getting it fixed


Im like 60% on that shift right now. Pisses me off

[AA-12]

So:

E-12-13-

at 240bpm isn't hard?

You can compare John Petrucci's playing and John McLaughlin's, both differ in style and what they actually play, but both have difficult solos because of the high speed.
It's not that hard.

John McLaughlin thoroughly owns him in technical ability though.

[MRDuCran]

lol k

[I'm Charming]

3rd page? I think not.

Discuss the hardest Bodom riff/solo/song to play...

I have to say the sweeps in Towards Dead End are quite hard.

[repcak]

@Che Guevara:
i have problems with the following part:
20----------18---------17-----------15-13-----13
---18---18----18---18---18----18---------13---
------17----------17----------17-------------------

John Petrucci is playing it too fast on the video to see anything. the only thing i could realize is that his finger #1 stays on the 13th fret. can you tell me with which fingers do you play this arpeggio?!


edit:
I'm Charming was faster than me with bumping this up :D


i once tried to play the sweeps... too fast for me.. though they aren't hard... only fast :angry:

[purgatory]

im going to list my top ten fav Bodom beauties!

1.Follow the Reaper (Death be not proud!!!!! yes)
2.Bodom Beach Terror
3.Angels Dont Kill
4.Hate Me
5.Are You Dead Yet
6.Children of Decendance
7.HateCrewDeathRoll
8.Chokehold
9.Sixpounder
10. Needled 24/7

i cant get enough of Bodom though. play them all the time

[repcak]

i add: Lake Bodom, Red light in my eyes pt2 ... i love the classical feel in this songs.

[GenuineImitation]

3rd page? I think not.

Discuss the hardest Bodom riff/solo/song to play...

I have to say the sweeps in Towards Dead End are quite hard.


For me its the intro to Lake Bodom. I just cant get it up to speed.

[I'm Charming]

For me its the intro to Lake Bodom. I just cant get it up to speed.

\is almost done with Lashed To The Stick

I havn't tried that. I've never really wanted to learn anything off Something Wild. I don't know why. I might learn Silent Night, Bodom Night (yeah yeah shut up)... I want to work on some stuff other then Bodom for a while.

[GenuineImitation]

\is almost done with Lashed To The Stick

I havn't tried that. I've never really wanted to learn anything off Something Wild. I don't know why. I might learn Silent Night, Bodom Night (yeah yeah shut up)... I want to work on some stuff other then Bodom for a while.


Whats wrong with learning Silent Night, Bodom Night.

Songs Im working on now:

CoB - Lake Bodom
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons / As I Am / Pull Me Under
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here / Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2
Metallica - Master of Puppets / Creeping Death
Megadeth - Holy Wars / PEace Sells / Angry Again / Symphony of Destruction
Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven / Whole Lotta Love / Heartbreaker
Symphony X - Evolution / Inferno / Of Seas and Shadows
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition
Deep Purple - Highway Star

I have a short attention span when it comes to learning other people's songs.

[I'm Charming]

Whats wrong with learning Silent Night, Bodom Night.

Songs Im working on now:

CoB - Lake Bodom
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons / As I Am / Pull Me Under
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here / Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2
Metallica - Master of Puppets / Creeping Death
Megadeth - Holy Wars / PEace Sells / Angry Again / Symphony of Destruction
Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven / Whole Lotta Love / Heartbreaker
Symphony X - Evolution / Inferno / Of Seas and Shadows
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition
Deep Purple - Highway Star

I have a short attention span when it comes to learning other people's songs.


I would get sleepy when I used to play symphony of destruction. It has to be one of the easiest songs out there. IMO at least.

[repcak]

do you really learn all the songs at once? from the begin to the end?!

what i practise now is kalmah - swamphell, paganin - 5th caprice (only the intro, a version with only arpeggios) and the intro to Universal Mind.... and i stopped practising lake bodom. *g*

[GenuineImitation]

do you really learn all the songs at once? from the begin to the end?!

what i practise now is kalmah - swamphell, paganin - 5th caprice (only the intro, a version with only arpeggios) and the intro to Universal Mind.... and i stopped practising lake bodom. *g*


No. I would work on a riff or solo, get bored and then move onto the next song. Im making progress on all of them, but I would make more progress if I did one or two songs at a time.

[MRDuCran]

The Downfall solo is hard to nail. I know there's going to be someone saying I can play it, well no.
There's a section in Hatebreeder with sweeps that's hard.
Warheart solo
Hate Me solo, album version is a bit ghey to play.
Children of Decadence
Kissing the Shadows
Hate Crew Deatholl solo is pretty tricky, as is Living Dead Beat.
We're Not Gonna Fall.

I'd say the hardest riffs are on HCDR. Needled intro riff, Bodom Beach Terror verse and interlude, Triple Corpse hammerblow lead riff, You're Better Off Dead intro all have fast stuff. The solos's for them are hard too.

[purgatory]

The Downfall solo is hard to nail. I know there's going to be someone saying I can play it, well no.
There's a section in Hatebreeder with sweeps that's hard.
Warheart solo
Hate Me solo, album version is a bit ghey to play.
Children of Decadence
Kissing the Shadows
Hate Crew Deatholl solo is pretty tricky, as is Living Dead Beat.
We're Not Gonna Fall.

I'd say the hardest riffs are on HCDR. Needled intro riff, Bodom Beach Terror verse and interlude, Triple Corpse hammerblow lead riff, You're Better Off Dead intro all have fast stuff. The solos's for them are hard too.

if you think those riffs are hard you should download this thing that alexi made. its called something like Reap and Roll lics. something of that nature lol. but it shows a lot of COB songs. should help ya out a bit!

[I'm Charming]

if you think those riffs are hard you should download this thing that alexi made. its called something like Reap and Roll lics. something of that nature lol. but it shows a lot of COB songs. should help ya out a bit!


I have,

Reap n Roll Licks "AYDY licks" & the one with "HCDR" licks

I have passage to the reaper

+ A TV rip of a concert in Nosturi on the AYDY tour.

They AYDY one is hella sloppy. A couple of the riffs are hard to watch.

I think for learning some Bodom, I'll either learn the parts I don't know of Bodom Beach Terror or Triple Corpse Hammerblow. I played through TCHB and didn't have any trouble, so I might start that once I'm done learning Lashed To The Slave Stick.

I've finally kicked my arse into gear and learning the whole song instead of half of songs, then learning 5 more half songs.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Whats wrong with cobs main website?

[Kurrpt]

@Che Guevara:
i have problems with the following part:
20----------18---------17-----------15-13-----13
---18---18----18---18---18----18---------13---
------17----------17----------17-------------------

John Petrucci is playing it too fast on the video to see anything. the only thing i could realize is that his finger #1 stays on the 13th fret. can you tell me with which fingers do you play this arpeggio?!


edit:
I'm Charming was faster than me with bumping this up :D


i once tried to play the sweeps... too fast for me.. though they aren't hard... only fast :angry:


actually Ducran said that tab was slighty off...

but if I were to play that, when i would jump to the 20th fret (pinky) and index on the pinky.


As far as "proper" fingers go, there really is no such thing. Id say stick to what is comfortable

[MRDuCran]

if you think those riffs are hard you should download this thing that alexi made. its called something like Reap and Roll lics. something of that nature lol. but it shows a lot of COB songs. should help ya out a bit!

I can already play them all, I'm just saying I think they're some of the harder Bodom riffs and solos. I have Reap N Roll licks.

[The Feeding]

....what about their Britney Spears cover? hahaha, now THAT was sick!!

honestly, all their albums are great, except i think i like Hate Crew Deathroll or Follow The Reaper are a little better than the new one, but i like all the keyboards, like in "Trashed, Lost and Strungout"

[I'm Charming]

....what about their Britney Spears cover? hahaha, now THAT was sick!!

honestly, all their albums are great, except i think i like Hate Crew Deathroll or Follow The Reaper are a little better than the new one, but i like all the keyboards, like in "Trashed, Lost and Strungout"


FTR is the best. I've been getting into HCDR a lot more as of late. It has some of their best songs.

Can anyone play Triple Corpse Hammerblow? I've thought of learning it and it didn't seem hard when I played through it.

[Shadows]

No Bodom song seems hard at first. It probably is one way or another though, I seem to remember some tough riffs in TCH, even though I haven't listened to it in a long time.

[I'm Charming]

No Bodom song seems hard at first. It probably is one way or another though, I seem to remember some tough riffs in TCH, even though I haven't listened to it in a long time.


Sixpounder is rather easy, the solos are hard though. Needled 24/7 is pretty easy in most parts. The intro solo/leads are rather easy. Bodom Beach Terror is mostly easy.

[Shadows]

I'm going to start learning Sixpounder soon. I have the solos tabbed perfectly, but can anyone link me to a GP tab of the full song? The riffs in the tabs I've seen look wrong.

[repcak]

actually Ducran said that tab was slighty off...

but if I were to play that, when i would jump to the 20th fret (pinky) and index on the pinky.


As far as "proper" fingers go, there really is no such thing. Id say stick to what is comfortable
if this is slightly off, do you play it in a different way? if yes, can you post your tabs?

[Kurrpt]

ill have to get back to ya on that in like 2 days...


if you are feeling adventurous, ducran DID post it pages back

[Thor]

I'm going to start learning Sixpounder soon. I have the solos tabbed perfectly, but can anyone link me to a GP tab of the full song? The riffs in the tabs I've seen look wrong.
Isn't that supposed to be one of Bodom's easier tracks?

[repcak]

ill have to get back to ya on that in like 2 days...


if you are feeling adventurous, ducran DID post it pages back
eh... im too lazy... i searched some pages back, but thats too much...

[I'm Charming]

I'm going to start learning Sixpounder soon. I have the solos tabbed perfectly, but can anyone link me to a GP tab of the full song? The riffs in the tabs I've seen look wrong.

Ask Mitch. I'm pretty sure he has it.

[Shattered_Future]

Isn't that supposed to be one of Bodom's easier tracks?

It really is (even I learned it) aside from the solos. Those are hard as hell IMO.

[I'm Charming]

It really is (even I learned it) aside from the solos. Those are hard as hell IMO.

Yeah it's quite easy.

The first solo is hard but if I worked on it... It wouldn't be. The second solo is reallly really hard though.

[Sleepy]

The riffs in Sixpounder aren't terribly hard...the solos are, though.

[MRDuCran]

Six, six, six! Pounder...

[Shadows]

Mitch! You have a Sixpounder tab?

[Swede in L.A]

I saw Alex laiho @ The Opeth gig last night....:-)

[IheartSP]

That's cool that he showed up for an Opeth gig. I bet a lot of people were bothering him.

I could see Bodom this weekend but my drummer doesn't want to because of the crappy opening bands, the long drive, and the fact that we'd be in the 18 and under section.

[Swede in L.A]

He was harassed as soon as he entered the building.....heheheh

[AA-12]

Haha, it's nice to see Laiho likes a band like Opeth. Makes me like him more.

[IheartSP]

He also likes Lamb of God and Hatebreed. I have little respect for him as a music listener, all the good stuff he used to listen to like Stratovarius and Manowar is dead to him, and I HATE American Metal to a pretty large extent.

[AA-12]

Meh, Opeth and Lamb of God = Two of my favorite bands. Hatebreed isn't that great in my books though, but they are good at what they intend to do.

[I'm Charming]

Meh, Opeth and Lamb of God = Two of my favorite bands. Hatebreed isn't that great in my books though, but they are good at what they intend to do.

Hatebreed is pathetic. The guitars put me to sleep and that annoying little twat for a singer... Jamie Jasta needs to get his arse kicked. He's like a 20 (?) year old body with a 13 year old mind.

Lamb Of God and Opeth = among my favs as well

I've been addicted to As The Palaces Burn for the last few days. Each time I listen to GR, I dislike it more and more. The songs have no direction and seem lost.

I've been in love with Still Life, Damnation and Deliverence though.

[MRDuCran]

Mitch! You have a Sixpounder tab?

www.mysongbook.com :thumb:

[I'm Charming]

and people say Dream Theater stands around playing and is boring live... haha

Try Lacuna Coil . They stand there like sticks... Not to mention what they are playing is beyond basic. The guitarist was playing the riff with one finger... hahahahaha. The bassist never even has to move his fingers/hand.
lawl.

[Yahmi_05]

i like
You're better off dead
needle 24/7
trashed lost & strungout

[Shattered_Future]

Don't you be dissing the Coil now. You find me 5 people as hot/hotter than Cristina Scabbia in metal that WEREN'T in Revolver's 13 sexiest metal maidens issue, and I'll stop bothering you.

[I'm Charming]

Don't you be dissing the Coil now. You find me 5 people as hot/hotter than Cristina Scabbia in metal that WEREN'T in Revolver's 13 sexiest metal maidens issue, and I'll stop bothering you.


I didn't bash her looks, which are quite hot.

I was pointing out how bad live they are and beyond basic to where the guitarist can use one/two fingers to play most of the song. lol. The male singer is awful live as well. Christina sings quite well live though, nothing wrong there.

[Shadows]

He also likes Lamb of God and Hatebreed. I have little respect for him as a music listener, all the good stuff he used to listen to like Stratovarius and Manowar is dead to him, and I HATE American Metal to a pretty large extent.
That's unfortunate. You're disregarding an extremely wide range of bands with a single generalization.

www.mysongbook.com :thumb:
I was hoping for something beyond that. :(

Just tell me one thing: what is the tuning for the song?

[I'm Charming]

That's unfortunate. You're disregarding an extremely wide range of bands with a single generalization.


I was hoping for something beyond that. :(

Just tell me one thing: what is the tuning for the song?
CGCFAD

I play it in DADGBE and just drop it down a step.

[Shadows]

Sweet, thanks. The second 6lb tab sounds like what it has is correct. Now all I need is the first solo and I'm set.

[MRDuCran]

One tab there is complete, and quiet accurate.

[I'm Charming]

I was messing around with different tunings today and having quite a lot of fun. So I tried drop B and shockingly it wasn't slack. I remembered it being far looser than it actually was. Damn it was heavy lawl. Very heavy. This considered maybe I'll try CGCFAD tomorrow. I'm quite attached to DADGBE though. haha.

Yeah... I had remembed it being so much looser and the strings being slack. It wasn't though. Drop B is teh secks for jamming.

[AA-12]

and people say Dream Theater stands around playing and is boring live... haha

Try Lacuna Coil . They stand there like sticks... Not to mention what they are playing is beyond basic. The guitarist was playing the riff with one finger... hahahahaha. The bassist never even has to move his fingers/hand.
lawl.
Hell yeah. I'd enjoy seeing DT over most bands.

Yeah, Coil is pretty terrible.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I was messing around with different tunings today and having quite a lot of fun. So I tried drop B and shockingly it wasn't slack. I remembered it being far looser than it actually was. Damn it was heavy lawl. Very heavy. This considered maybe I'll try CGCFAD tomorrow. I'm quite attached to DADGBE though. haha.

Yeah... I had remembed it being so much looser and the strings being slack. It wasn't though. Drop B is teh secks for jamming.

Try CGCGBE----that's the tuning my band plays in.

It's quite useful.

[AA-12]

CGCGBE is just weird, haha.

[Invicta_Veritas]

CGCGBE is just weird, haha.

Not really. It's just half drop C ( for heavier rythms) and half standard (because I like my high pitched solos).

I creates a whole really badass sounding range of chords too. Perfect for Melodic Death metal :thumb:

[Britton]

Not really. It's just half drop C ( for heavier rythms) and half standard (because I like my high pitched solos).

I creates a whole really badass sounding range of chords too. Perfect for Melodic Death metal :thumb:

Sense I'm getting off the pc and I have nothing to do...I think I';; EXp witht that a little

[I'm Charming]

Hell yeah. I'd enjoy seeing DT over most bands.

Yeah, Coil is pretty terrible.

I'm still a sucker for Coil. I love Christina Scabbia's voice. I just tune out the guitarists, it was so synthed on Comalies... You could barely hear the guitars in most places. Which was fine with me.

Both DT's are the ****. Dream Theater and Dark Tranquiltty.

The difference to point out though is, Petrucci is actually playing something and would rather nail it, then look cool. The idiots in LC should be able to play that on a rollercoaster just fine.

[Shadows]

Not really. It's just half drop C ( for heavier rythms) and half standard (because I like my high pitched solos).

I creates a whole really badass sounding range of chords too. Perfect for Melodic Death metal :thumb:
That's a weirdass tuning. You're half standard and half drop C - make up your mind. God forbid you should try to stay in key.

[I'm Charming]

God forbid you should try to stay in key.


touche.

That's a really odd tuning.

[guitrguy]

That's a weirdass tuning. You're half standard and half drop C - make up your mind. God forbid you should try to stay in key.
That has nothing to do with playing in key. It would really mess up the shape of the scale though.

[Shadows]

That has nothing to do with playing in key. It would really mess up the shape of the scale though.
I know, that's what I meant. There would be quite a shift in fingering.

[I'm Charming]

I know, that's what I meant. There would be quite a shift in fingering.

I'd never heard of that tuning. Any you think of any band that uses it or something like it?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Why is everyone making a deal of it? It works perfect for my band. And I build awesome solos off of it.

[I'm Charming]

Why is everyone making a deal of it? It works perfect for my band. And I build awesome solos off of it.


Recordings please.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Soon-----we are reworking our demo (amidst many complaints and suggestions musically) and will have it up on our site within a couple months, along with the rest of a full-length lp.......

But if you truly want to hear a crappy demo, be my guest

http://www.myspace.com/forthisibleed

"A Shade of Grey" is the better one I think......I screwed up the solo in "Burn" by putting way too much wet reverb on the guitar.......one of many mistakes and wrongdoings on that demo.....



Sometime this week or next I will be doing the short Instrumental fillers for the album to kick off recording......you'll be able to hear electric and clean in CGCGBE.....we'll probably post them on there......

[I'm Charming]

Soon-----we are reworking our demo (amidst many complaints and suggestions musically) and will have it up on our site within a couple months, along with the rest of a full-length lp.......

But if you truly want to hear a crappy demo, be my guest

http://www.myspace.com/forthisibleed

"A Shade of Grey" is the better one I think......I screwed up the solo in "Burn" by putting way too much wet reverb on the guitar.......one of many mistakes and wrongdoings on that demo.....



Sometime this week or next I will be doing the short Instrumental fillers for the album to kick off recording......you'll be able to hear electric and clean in CGCGBE.....we'll probably post them on there......


I thought it sounded pretty good.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I thought it sounded pretty good.

Tell that to everyone else........so, CGCGBE isn't as bad as you thought?:smoke:

(of course, with that tuning i have to be very picky with my brands as far as strings go)

[I'm Charming]

Tell that to everyone else........so, CGCGBE isn't as bad as you thought?:smoke:

(of course, with that tuning i have to be very picky with my brands as far as strings go)

Why? You want thicker for CGC and lighter for GBE?

I was never against the tuning, I just didn't see it working. Where did you come up with the idea to play in that tuning?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Well, in combination with the fact that I've naturally got higher tension on the top end and lower on the bottom, I also play a lot of pinch harmonics. I've found a couple brands of strings (GHS tnt's, Ernie Ball Skinny Top Heavy Bottom's) that hold tuning and last longer than others. But yea, that's most of it.

I really honestly dont remember. I think when I was first experimenting with full drop c, I got lazy and didn't want to downtune the rest one day, and it just created a whole new range of chords and stuff, so I kept it. Started writing songs in it, and haven't wanted to go back ever since.

[dest. Chaos]

or what about just leave it in ****ing E standard tuning?

[7-Up]

^^Word.

[dest. Chaos]

^^Word.
= ) ..

[Invicta_Veritas]

^^^^Not a thick enough tone.......why do you think bands downtune in the first place?

[7-Up]

thinkness, heavyness, darkness.

[dest. Chaos]

^^^^Not a thick enough tone.......why do you think bands downtune in the first place?
You downtune mainly to fit the vocalists pitch range.
and black metal bands are certanly heavier than for example CoB. and black metal bands almost never tune down. edit: and if your just talkin about the tone and not the overall sound take a look at dimmu borgir, they have a thick tone with E standard.

[purgatory]

Everything is a lot easier in E standard. Only, it doesnt sound as dark and evil i think. I usually tune in D standard.

[Shattered_Future]

You can get a heavy as hell tone in E standard. Tuning has nothing to do with it, it's all in the effects you use.

Opeth. 7 albums with E standard. Some of the heaviest and most evil riffs you'll ever hear.

[dest. Chaos]

You can get a heavy as hell tone in E standard. Tuning has nothing to do with it, it's all in the effects you use.

true

[Shadows]

Opeth. 7 albums with E standard. Some of the heaviest and most evil riffs you'll ever hear.
I beg to differ.

[Shred Danson]

Great bands that play in E Standard (or down a half step):

Gorgoroth
Lord Belial
Opeth
Iced Earth
Without A Trace :p

[purgatory]

Well, i never said E standard wasn't intense. If you tune in D standard though you can still go every note that E has, but you get that extra low kick as well with an open D.

[Shred Danson]

I've always liked tuning to D standard. I wish my rhythm guitarist would stop being a bitch about tuning down a step ("it sounds like ****!") and lose the Megadeth fanboyism because I'm interested in writing more in that tuning.

[Shadows]

Kick his *** out of the band. I'll play rhythm for you guys.

[Shred Danson]

Kick his *** out of the band. I'll play rhythm for you guys.

It's a long commute, comrade.

[I'm Charming]

You can get a heavy as hell tone in E standard. Tuning has nothing to do with it, it's all in the effects you use.

Opeth. 7 albums with E standard. Some of the heaviest and most evil riffs you'll ever hear.

Just play Master's Apprentices. I didn't realize how heavy standard tuning could be until I listened to Opeth.

[PsychoticFlubber]

Yo people. I have been gone for a while. My computer died and needed to be replaced. It sucks hard though that I lost a ton of stuff with it. One thing for example was that Guitar Pro 5 patch someone sent me a while back that made the drums sound a lot better on it. If anyone has it, could they send it to me again?

Powderburn1214@aol.com

[repcak]

i just got a visit from my friend, who (as i once said) knows CoB personal and he is an insane guitar player. we talked about 'Universal Mind' and how JP is playing it... cause the tabs are wrong and he managed it out.... it looks the same way as JP is playing it! so here it is:

20-13----13-18-13----13-17-13----13-15-13----13
-------------------------------------------------------------
--------17-------------17------------17-------------17--

[MRDuCran]

That's what I said a million pages back.
I posted the video too.

[repcak]

the million pages back i didn't want to search ...

[I'm Charming]

i just got a visit from my friend, who (as i once said) knows CoB personal and he is an insane guitar player. we talked about 'Universal Mind' and how JP is playing it... cause the tabs are wrong and he managed it out.... it looks the same way as JP is playing it! so here it is:

20-13----13-18-13----13-17-13----13-15-13----13
-------------------------------------------------------------
--------17-------------17------------17-------------17--


haha. That looks really hard.

[dest. Chaos]

Great bands that play in E Standard (or down a half step):

Gorgoroth
Lord Belial
Opeth
Iced Earth
Without A Trace :p
(+98% of all black metal bands).. Lord Belial! yee! It is possible that my band will open up for Lord Belial on a gig in may. although it is not confirmed but we are working on it.

[AA-12]

Opeth. 7 albums with E standard. Some of the heaviest and most evil riffs you'll ever hear.
Exactly. No bands even comes close to how heavy they are.

[repcak]

haha. That looks really hard.
but its easier than the version from mysongbook with arpeggios

[MRDuCran]

All versions are arpeggios. You're mistaking string skipping with sweep picking.

[I'm Charming]

but its easier than the version from mysongbook with arpeggios

How many bpm is that at?

Universal Mind... I've never heard that. It's by Petrucci right?

[AA-12]

LTE, so yeah.

[Forlorn Hope]

*Listens to Universal Mind for the first time*
Good luck with that, whoever is learning it...

[Shattered_Future]

Just play Master's Apprentices. I didn't realize how heavy standard tuning could be until I listened to Opeth.

So much fun to play...

[Invicta_Veritas]

You can get a heavy as hell tone in E standard. Tuning has nothing to do with it, it's all in the effects you use.

Opeth. 7 albums with E standard. Some of the heaviest and most evil riffs you'll ever hear.

I'm not a fan of rigging my **** with a zillion different effects. I'd rather just downtune. i'm really a fan of pure tone, not layered icing all over the sound.

[Shadows]

So much fun to play...
I'm definitely learning that.

But upon further inspection, Deliverance seems much more fun.

[guitrguy]

I'm not a fan of rigging my **** with a zillion different effects. I'd rather just downtune. i'm really a fan of pure tone, not layered icing all over the sound.
Then buy a baritone guitar.

[I'm Charming]

I'm definitely learning that.

But upon further inspection, Deliverance seems much more fun.

MA is really easy as well.

The beginning riff is awsome...

Intro
|-------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------|
|-3--2---x--2--2--2--2----------------|
|-3--2---x--2--2--2--2----------------|
|-1--0---x--0--0--0--0--1--0--1/4--5--|
. . . .

|---------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------|
|-2-2---3--2---x--2--2--2--2------------------|intro 2 x
|-2-2---3--2---x--2--2--2--2------------------|
|-0-0---1--0---x--0--0--0--0--1--0--1/4--5--8-|

That part is so sweet. :thumb:

[Shadows]

I just looked at the GP for it and it seemed too easy to keep me interested.

[I'm Charming]

I just looked at the GP for it and it seemed too easy to keep me interested.

That's what happened with MA for me. Though I still jam through it.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Then buy a baritone guitar.

Baritone guitars are for people with no talent.

[I'm Charming]

Baritone guitars are for people with no talent.

I don't mean to sound like a ****ing idiot, but what's a Baritone Guitar?

[Invicta_Veritas]

I don't mean to sound like a ****ing idiot, but what's a Baritone Guitar?

A baritone guitar is a guitar built specifically for downtuning. The scale of the guitar is longer, thereby allowing it to have heavier strings while maintaining string tension.It's a glorified bass guitar in my opinion.

Anyway, why would I buy a baritone guitar and still have to dowtune anyway? The strings i would have to put on it would be too heavy for some of the things I use it for anyway.........I would have to put lighter strings on it and screw with keeping it in tune, readjust the action, etc..........it would just defeat the purpose of buying a guitar to supposedly solve some issue.......I would rather do it the way I do it now-Have a normal guitar, adjust the action, put specific strings on it, tune it the way I want it, and be set. It's the same thing.

[I'm Charming]

A baritone guitar is a guitar built specifically for downtuning. The scale of the guitar is longer, thereby allowing it to have heavier strings while maintaining string tension.It's a glorified bass guitar in my opinion.

Anyway, why would I buy a baritone guitar and still have to dowtune anyway? The strings i would have to put on it would be too heavy for some of the things I use it for anyway.........I would have to put lighter strings on it and screw with keeping it in tune, readjust the action, etc..........it would just defeat the purpose of buying a guitar to supposedly solve some issue.......I would rather do it the way I do it now-Have a normal guitar, adjust the action, put specific strings on it, tune it the way I want it, and be set. It's the same thing.

Alright, that's pretty much what I figured.
Thanks.

What's wrong with them? Just bad guitarists using them to sound halfway good?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Alright, that's pretty much what I figured.
Thanks.

What's wrong with them? Just bad guitarists using them to sound halfway good?

Meh. I don't specifically have an issue with them, i was just being a smartass. But i don't really see the point to them, and I have no particular use for them.......and I do know a lot of untalented(*cough* demonhunter *cough*) bands that use them to make things sound heavy when they should just play better riffs. It's just like 7-string guitars......there's no point: either your bassist is crappy and you're compensating for it or you have nothing better to do than add a string and play simpler riffs.



Note: I like demonhunter and many bands that use these guitars, they just aren't the most talented bunch.

[Kurrpt]

Baritone guitars are for people with no talent.


this is a pretty fukking closed minded statement. Try to take your foot out of your mouth next time you "speak"

[AA-12]

Baritone guitars are for people with no talent.
Haha, you're an idiot.

[MRDuCran]

123 to the last 2 posts, dumb statement.

[Moses]

Meh. I don't specifically have an issue with them, i was just being a smartass. But i don't really see the point to them, and I have no particular use for them.......and I do know a lot of untalented(*cough* demonhunter *cough*) bands that use them to make things sound heavy when they should just play better riffs. It's just like 7-string guitars......there's no point: either your bassist is crappy and you're compensating for it or you have nothing better to do than add a string and play simpler riffs.



Note: I like demonhunter and many bands that use these guitars, they just aren't the most talented bunch.
One word:

NEVERMORE

[AA-12]

Seriously. I'm getting a 7 just for the fact of playing more complex things and exploring new sounds. That guy needs to become a better musician.

[Kurrpt]

theres a GOOD chance ill be sellling my triple recto, and picking up


<drum roll>





A krank revolution, series 1 2X12 combo. Wish me luck fellas

[Forlorn Hope]

theres a GOOD chance ill be sellling my triple recto, and picking up


<drum roll>





A krank revolution, series 1 2X12 combo. Wish me luck fellas
:eek:
Have you played the Krank before? I've never really heard any sort of feedback about them...

[Kurrpt]

yea, i actually played it today, with a PRS McCarty. Not as nice as my tremonti, but it definitely sold me on the amp

[I'm Charming]

:eek:
Have you played the Krank before? I've never really heard any sort of feedback about them...

All I know about Krank amps, is that The Black Dalhia Murder uses them.

That's all.

[MRDuCran]

I just watched the video for Are You Dead Yet. I don't see what relevance it has to the song, it's pretty gay really.

[I'm Charming]

I just watched the video for Are You Dead Yet. I don't see what relevance it has to the song, it's pretty gay really.

I havn't seen it yet. I'm in class.

Care to share what happens in it?

[MRDuCran]

Erm.

Well.

It's like country style, with police officers in it with the shierif hats and star badges n sh!t. It has half naked guys and gals and cars.

I have no idea what it's supposed to be.

[I'm Charming]

Erm.

Well.

It's like country style, with police officers in it with the shierif hats and star badges n sh!t. It has half naked guys and gals and cars.

I have no idea what it's supposed to be.

Hmm. That sounds nothing like CoB.

coughappealingtoamericanscouugh

[IheartSP]

It's stuff like that that makes me say CoB sold out.

[MRDuCran]

Yah, except I don't think it'll appeal to anyone, it's just boring. I'd much rather see something like Trashed, Lost and Strungout where they just play, or a live video or something.

[I'm Charming]

It's stuff like that that makes me say CoB sold out.

I second this.

Yah, except I don't think it'll appeal to anyone, it's just boring. I'd much rather see something like Trashed, Lost and Strungout where they just play, or a live video or something.

A cop+badguy+half naked chicks+cars will appeal to the kidiots that see it all over Fuse and MTV.

[Shadows]

Hardly selling out, that's the way they've always been. They're just screwing around and having a good time for god's sake. Metal needs more bands that play good music and don't take themselves too seriously.

[IheartSP]

Hardly selling out, that's the way they've always been. They're just screwing around and having a good time for god's sake. Metal needs more bands that play good music and don't take themselves too seriously.
But that's exactly what metal is against. Bodom is a punk band with metal music.

[MRDuCran]

Yah maybe. Check out the Bodom boards, they're completely ripping it apart.

[AA-12]

Hardly selling out, that's the way they've always been. They're just screwing around and having a good time for god's sake. Metal needs more bands that play good music and don't take themselves too seriously.
Exactly. It seems that nowadays metal has to be all tough and serious 24/7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_osgo4311mE&search=children%20of%20bodom Hahahaha

[Shadows]

Alexi's Finnish accent has never been more noticable in a song. :lol:

Has everyone seen his DR Strings ad? I didn't know a professional video could be allowed to be filmed with such acting.

[I'm Charming]

Yah maybe. Check out the Bodom boards, they're completely ripping it apart.


Doesn't surprise me.

I'll watch it later and post my thoughts.

It sounds like they are just trying to appeal to the stupid kiddies who watch Fuse and MTV. I don't think the music on AYDY sold out, but catering to kidiots like this...and starting to make music videos is getting there or at least very very very close to selling out. :mad:

[Shadows]

They've been making music videos since Something Wild.

But that's exactly what metal is against. Bodom is a punk band with metal music.
That makes no sense at all.

[I'm Charming]

They've been making music videos since Something Wild.


That makes no sense at all.


Yes, but all their previous videos were just playing the song. There wasn't some lame thing that will appeal to the kidiots.

and: Yes I agree. Bodom is not a punk band.

[Shadows]

Some lame thing? Well over half of that video was shots of the band playing the song. I don't see any aspect of that video that consitutes "selling out" or "appealing to kidiots".

[IheartSP]

They have the attitude of a punk band but write metal music. I think attitude is very important in metal and the attitude they have now isn't very metal at all.

[Shadows]

What's punk about their attitude? I don't seem them making political statements or telling people to get high.

The music they choose to write shows their attitude. The music is still obviously metal so I don't see what you're going on about.

[I'm Charming]

What's punk about their attitude? I don't seem them making political statements or telling people to get high..

They act like punks though. Just live drunk and slack.

I think attitude is very important in metal and the attitude they have now isn't very metal at all.

It's how we tell the men from the boys.

[Shadows]

They act like punks though. Just live drunk and slack.
No they don't. Do you have any idea how many metal bands have the "slack off and get drunk" attitude?

I'll save you some time. Virtually all of them.

[I'm Charming]

No they don't. Do you have any idea how many metal bands have the "slack off and get drunk" attitude?

I'll save you some time. Virtually all of them.

Isn't that half the point of being in a band/rock star?

[IheartSP]

No they don't. Do you have any idea how many metal bands have the "slack off and get drunk" attitude?

I'll save you some time. Virtually all of them.
Seems more like a rock and roll thing to slack off and get drunk, and they are punk becuase of the whole f you f everyone your nto the boss of me thing.

[Shadows]

Seems more like a rock and roll thing to slack off and get drunk, and they are punk becuase of the whole f you f everyone your nto the boss of me thing.
I never picked that up...

[IheartSP]

Is that a joke?

[Shadows]

No. I get the "**** off, I don't give a ****" in your face kind of attitude, but nothing remotely punkish.

[IheartSP]

Isn't that what the punks say?

[Shadows]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people say that.

[IheartSP]

I'm pretty sure the punks say that too and are known for it.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

It's very much a metal thing too.

Thrash especially.

[IheartSP]

And where did thrash come from?

Yeah that's what I thought. Real metal is about escapism and fantasy. It's not supposed to be about real life its supposed to take you away to somewhere else.

[Shadows]

It sounds to me like you're narrowing "real metal" down to power metal only. There are plenty of "real metal" bands that don't fall into what you just described.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

And where did thrash come from?

Yeah that's what I thought. Real metal is about escapism and fantasy. It's not supposed to be about real life its supposed to take you away to somewhere else.
Thrash didn't come directly from punk.

Punk was an influence on Thrash, but not where it came from.

[IheartSP]

How about black metal, that's all about non real concepts, same with most melodic death, heavy metal, regular death most of the time (like nile and behemoth, not cannibal corpse, who I think are very punkish in attitude), and almost all metal really.

[Shadows]

Oh wow...

Black metal not about real concepts? What about religion and destruction? Death metal bands who focus on violence? Traditional metal bands who go political? Melodic death bands who center on emotion and relationships?

All metal is based on real concepts.

[Sleepy]

How about black metal, that's all about non real concepts, same with most melodic death... regular death

Must I disagree with those two. Please let me know where Arsis takes you, as well as Decapitated :) Other than those two genres (not very punk-ish, IMO) I do see your point.

[guitrguy]

How about black metal, that's all about non real concepts, same with most melodic death, heavy metal, regular death most of the time (like nile and behemoth, not cannibal corpse, who I think are very punkish in attitude), and almost all metal really.
I think when you too much stock into the attitude you demean the music. Age of Silence and Winds both have very professional attitudes.
Melodic death bands who center on emotion and relationships?
November's Doom ftw

[Apocalyptic Raids]

How about black metal, that's all about non real concepts, same with most melodic death, heavy metal, regular death most of the time (like nile and behemoth, not cannibal corpse, who I think are very punkish in attitude), and almost all metal really.
Black Metal is about hatred. That is very real.

Nile and Behemoth?!? I have no idea where you got that from.

[IheartSP]

Oh wow...

Black metal not about real concepts? What about religion and destruction? Death metal bands who focus on violence? Traditional metal bands who go political? Melodic death bands who center on emotion and relationships?

All metal is based on real concepts.
They take concepts like religion and destruction and make them totally unlike real life. You're thinking of this too literally. I don't think you make sacrifices and kill christians everyday, while you may pray or demote religion. Political metal bands also take things out of that everyday life context by putting you right into the middle of the political crossfire. The melodic death about relationships is something I do agree isn't very metal but they seem to work it in a way most of the time that it is very emotional and make you see from their eyes.

[IheartSP]

Black Metal is about hatred. That is very real.

Nile and Behemoth?!? I have no idea where you got that from.
I said Nile and Behemoth are metal in attitude while cannibal corpse is not.

[Shadows]

They take concepts like religion and destruction and make them totally unlike real life. You're thinking of this too literally. I don't think you make sacrifices and kill christians everyday, while you may pray or demote religion. Political metal bands also take things out of that everyday life context by putting you right into the middle of the political crossfire. The melodic death about relationships is something I do agree isn't very metal but they seem to work it in a way most of the time that it is very emotional and make you see from their eyes.
I agree with the melodic death, but you forget that black metal bands actually back up their words with action.

[IheartSP]

But they do portray it in a very fantastical way.

[Sleepy]

To say melodic death metal is not badass is to say that Black Metal photo shoots aren't ridiculous. There will be few who think that melo-death is soft and tender music, and think that black metal pictures are very evil. There will be more who think melo-death is intellectual and musical, and think that Black Metal pictures are ridiculous.

I am one of the latter few.

[IheartSP]

Arsis - Seven Whispers Fell Silent
Seven whispers silent
On scathing winds the seven whistlers tune
Seven cries, blinded eyes
Bade the choke on the night
Beneath the stare of a cold and blood-dimmed moon

Alaster, avenging one
Guide my path
Live in me, exist to be
The festering wounds upon the savior's wrists
Calculating the murderous plot for the dozen to fall


If that is not metal then I don't know what is.

[Shadows]

Arsis is pure melodic sex!

[Sleepy]

Arsis is pure melodic sex!

Amen, brother.

EDIT: Arsis - The Sadistic Motives Behind Bereavement Letters

I'm so sorry to hear of your bitter loss
I know my words can only offer but so much comfort for you
Just know that I am here to ease your lonely feelings
To fill this time of grieving and remind you it's your fault

It's your fault for not caring
It's your fault for not knowing that he'd try again
And again, these words can only offer
But so much comfort for you

Seems pretty damn real to me.

[IheartSP]

Conflict, terror, hear the noise
You're in the edge of a nerve-racking force
Oh my god, here's a fight
Never siege, never riot, must defy

When you look at me, what do you see
Another trophy like a ****in dead beat
Close your eyes, take a step inside
Guess what I took your life/step back uncover your eyes
Insanity and normality (is/its) not What you call reality
What you will, always want
It was the day that you should die

I dont give a flying **** mother****er
I dont give a flying **** mother****er
I dont give a flying
I dont give a flying
I dont give a flying ****!

'll never wait for the pain of death
With a bullet in my gun dont **** over my ****
Can you hold my crazy as I go
So **** hypocrisy and **** you too


This is the difference between bands liek Arsis who may talk about real life concepts and Bodom. The Arsis lyrics were very metal and many people will tell you those Bodom lyrics are certainly not even close.

The whole album isn't like that though I wouldn't go as far as saying that

The slaying at Bodom from so long ago
Still carry a secret, of which nobody knows
A seed that was planted as the night turned to dawn
Will now bring me to life as the reaper's spawn
I'm a bastards of Bodom and I walk alon
As I follow the reaper, to lead me back home
My victims shall perish on the shores of this lake
As they look upon me, to stare death in the face

I don't need a reason, and I won't tell you why
I'll just take you to hell by the edge of my scythe!
I was born to end life, I can take any form
A shapeshifting demon, killing for sport
Like father, like son, this is my fate
Taking your lives and breeding the hate!

I don't need a reason, and I won't tell you why
I'll just take you to hell by the edge of my scythe!

Now that is certainly very metal.

[Shadows]

The In Your Face lyrics don't seem punk to me either.

[IheartSP]

They seem extremely punk to me, the entire goal is to say I'm rebelling and you can't control me, that is one of the most punk concepts there is.