Children Of Bodom

[IheartSP]

Most bands with harsh vocals have bad lyrics, look at Bodom.

[MRDuCran]

Ever notice how almost all arguments arise over what genre a band is, not how good their music is?

123!!!

[repcak]

Riva had a bad day?! :rolleyes:

[Shadows]

A bit of a scuffle in the Power Metal thread...

First a few days ago I brought up my point about how Iced Earth is considered Power Metal a little too easily, and I thought that they were closer to melodic thrash stuff like Metallica in their prime. Everyone acted like I just said the dumbest thing ever yet I had a well thought out point that was backed up with as much evidence as I could, yet still people just flamed the hell out of me.

Then today we were talking about Iron Maiden in there and Riva said this is the Power Metal thread why are we talking about Maiden. Most people agreed that they were a big influence on Power Metal and that they should be allowed to be talked about in there, and I said they are about as Power Metal as Iced Earth. Riva then goes into this completely BS argument about how Maiden is closer to Melodic Death than they are Power Metal. I said Maiden sounds A LOT closer to Dragonforce than Arch Enemy, and first thing he says is suttin like Arch Enemy is garabge, I thought that was especially rude. Then he goes into this completely overgeneralized analysis on how Maiden is more like melodeath.
Strange. I didn't even know Riva knew much about metal. It sounds like he blew up over absolutely nothing. Some people around here are just like that, and I'm surprised it was Riva. He's usually much more reasonable then that.

As for Maiden being closer to melodic death then power metal, that's obviously false. It only takes a quick glimpse of each genre to realize that.

Ever notice how almost all arguments arise over what genre a band is, not how good their music is?
Yes, it's all quite pointless. I', somewhat of a genre nazi myself, but even I get tired of all of it when it gets extreme.

Most bands with harsh vocals have bad lyrics, look at Bodom.
Don't generalize like that!

[repcak]

Most bands with harsh vocals have bad lyrics, look at Bodom.
:angry:

hey, this is a BODOM thread - and i disagree

[IheartSP]

Riva as far as I've known him is a huge fan of Power Metal, and acts all "tr00" by calling us fanboys. Whenever i mention Bodom in there he or someone else makes a comment.

:angry:

hey, this is a BODOM thread - and i disagree
lol well most of us here would agree that Bodom could do a bit better with their lyrics. Some of them are okay but in general it's just a lot of screw you screw everyone I hate stuff (to be general about it).

[MRDuCran]

No wonder Alexi hates the internet and the ignorant people involed with it.

[Silenius]

Off topic: repcak, since I noticed you're from Austria, do you like Summoning? I believe they are from Vienna (or at least that area).

[Shadows]

I'm really ****ing tired of all of the Bodom fanboy insults around here. This **** has to stop. It's almost impossible to mention them in any other thread without getting flamed, and people have even started to come into this thread to start arguments.

[IheartSP]

Alexi shouldn't hate the internet. If it wasn't for the internet he'd never have gotten that 15 dollars I spent buying HCDR cuase I wouldn't have known who the hell CoB are.

[repcak]

his lyrics are not excellent, but they are far from bad... i like them... they are good/ok

[MRDuCran]

his lyrics are not excellent, but they are far from bad... i like them... they are good/ok

I agree.

[Riva]

OMG GUYS LETS TAKE MY COMMENTS OUT OF CONTEXT

a) I was arguing that power metal and melodic death are equally as similar to Iron Maiden, albeit for different reasons.

b) I never insulted your opinion once, mate, despite you personally insulting mine

c) Yes, I do think Arch Enemy are crap

d) No, I don't insult you every time you mention COB

e) No, I don't think I'm a God. If I was wrong, I'll admit it.

f) I listen to and enjoy Metallica. I'm hardly an elitist.

g) My user title says Power Metal Fanboy. Do you suppose that I'm not actually insulting you seriously by calling you that?

[repcak]

Off topic: repcak, since I noticed you're from Austria, do you like Summoning? I believe they are from Vienna (or at least that area).

no, i don't know them. the only metal-vienna band i know is amortis, but they already broke up :( they were pretty good.

for more information: www.metal-archives.com and type in Amortis

[Silenius]

no, i don't know them. the only metal-vienna band i know is amortis.
Oh, well it was just a thought. I have always wanted to go to the pub in Vienna where they formed and sometimes go to to have a drink.

Hmm, I might check out Amortis when I have time, they sound good. While I was on metal-archives I checked, and Summoning are from Vienna. Hollenthon is also an excellent band from Austria/Vienna. If you ever have time check them out. :)



/silence enters the thread...

[repcak]

which pub? tell me more... where are you from?

/me goes out for a smoke :p

[PsychoticFlubber]

Soooo... let me get away from the arguements for a second. Does anyone here subscribe to Guitar World? If so, can anyone tell me if Alexi Laiho stopped his Column after showing Needled 24/7, Chokehold (Cocked 'n' Loaded), and You're Better Off Dead? If he didn't, does anyone know what else he showed? My subscription ended about 4 months ago...

[repcak]

lol.. i stopped buying GW a long time ago... and you know why? 80% advertisment :angry:

[IheartSP]

OMG GUYS LETS TAKE MY COMMENTS OUT OF CONTEXT

a) I was arguing that power metal and melodic death are equally as similar to Iron Maiden, albeit for different reasons.

b) I never insulted your opinion once, mate, despite you personally insulting mine

c) Yes, I do think Arch Enemy are crap

d) No, I don't insult you every time you mention COB

e) No, I don't think I'm a God. If I was wrong, I'll admit it.

f) I listen to and enjoy Metallica. I'm hardly an elitist.

g) My user title says Power Metal Fanboy. Do you suppose that I'm not actually insulting you seriously by calling you that?
I'll stop putting up a fight. You obviously did something, it's not often that I get mad like this here on mx. I think you need to reconsider your responsibilities as a mod, you can't just go around saying whatever you want anymore. The mods that have been here for a long time are usually the most objective posters on the board, I think you need to work on that a little.

[Shadows]

Soooo... let me get away from the arguements for a second. Does anyone here subscribe to Guitar World? If so, can anyone tell me if Alexi Laiho stopped his Column after showing Needled 24/7, Chokehold (Cocked 'n' Loaded), and You're Better Off Dead? If he didn't, does anyone know what else he showed? My subscription ended about 4 months ago...
Someone told me that one issue had Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood too. I'd love to have the copies with those songs in them, but I don't subscribe.

[Silenius]

which pub? tell me more... where are you from?

/me goes out for a smoke :p
During your tour through Hollenthon's Vienna, you may feel the need to quench your thirst in one of Vienna's finest and most frequented hangout of certain black metal celebrities. One night a week, a few to a bunch get together at the Zeitstop. Come by to join Ali (your host) and toast among the hundreds of clocks that make up the Zeitstop's decor.

The Zeitstop is located in Vienna's 7th district, in the Neustiftgasse (Cafe Zeitstop, Fa. Sarkhosh, Neustiftgasse 6-8, A-1070 Vienna, Tel: 5264 770). This quaint establishment is open from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m., 7 days a week. To say hello to Ali and other unexpected guests, take the U3 to Volkstheater. It is only a short stroll away to where time stands still.


From Hollenthons website. Members from Hollenthon, Summoning, Abigor, etc. may be found there from time to time.

[PsychoticFlubber]

Someone told me that one issue had Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood too. I'd love to have the copies with those songs in them, but I don't subscribe.
What's your E-mail? I can send you "Chokehold (Cocked 'n' Loaded) and all of "Needled 24/7".

[PsychoticFlubber]

Know what, nevermind, just anyone who needs those tabs I said, just do this. Change the "hxxp" to "http" in the links.

Chokehold

hxxp://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3C7XRDFH9806S0E0YF3L5JCA45

Needled 24/7

hxxp://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WTCBG100OGJV1FV2LWURC4X78

[repcak]

During your tour through Hollenthon's Vienna, you may feel the need to quench your thirst in one of Vienna's finest and most frequented hangout of certain black metal celebrities. One night a week, a few to a bunch get together at the Zeitstop. Come by to join Ali (your host) and toast among the hundreds of clocks that make up the Zeitstop's decor.

The Zeitstop is located in Vienna's 7th district, in the Neustiftgasse (Cafe Zeitstop, Fa. Sarkhosh, Neustiftgasse 6-8, A-1070 Vienna, Tel: 5264 770). This quaint establishment is open from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m., 7 days a week. To say hello to Ali and other unexpected guests, take the U3 to Volkstheater. It is only a short stroll away to where time stands still.


From Hollenthons website. Members from Hollenthon, Summoning, Abigor, etc. may be found there from time to time.

I live in the 8th discrict and neustiftgasse is only 5minutes away from where i am... do you know the escape metalcorner? its too in the neustiftgasse :) its the place where i sitting most around

strange that i never have seen Zeitstop

[Silenius]

I live in the 8th discrict and neustiftgasse is only 5minutes away from where i am... do you know the escape metalcorner? its too in the neustiftgasse :) its the place where i sitting most around

strange that i never have seen Zeitstop
I have never been to Vienna. :lol:


I just happen to love it's metal scene.

[repcak]

and where do you live, that you want to visit vienna someday?

[IheartSP]

Silenius lives near Sacramento, CA. It's better than Connecticut at least...

[repcak]

oh... in canada!? wow... thats far away from vienna :D

[Silenius]

and where do you live, that you want to visit vienna someday?
Im originally from Germany but live in United States (California) currently. I want to visit Austria one day since I can speak the language anyway and love the music/culture/etc.

[IheartSP]

No CA is California, my bad.

[repcak]

No CA is California, my bad.
ups.... :rolleyes:

Im originally from Germany but live in United States (California) currently. I want to visit Austria one day since I can speak the language anyway and love the music/culture/etc.
ah... from german :) i am originally from poland ... behemoth - i love this band


/me should go to bed... its another time than in california... :rolleyes:

[Silenius]

ah... from german :) i am originally from poland ... behemoth - i love this band
Cool. :)

[Britton]

During your tour through Hollenthon's Vienna, you may feel the need to quench your thirst in one of Vienna's finest and most frequented hangout of certain black metal celebrities. One night a week, a few to a bunch get together at the Zeitstop. Come by to join Ali (your host) and toast among the hundreds of clocks that make up the Zeitstop's decor.

The Zeitstop is located in Vienna's 7th district, in the Neustiftgasse (Cafe Zeitstop, Fa. Sarkhosh, Neustiftgasse 6-8, A-1070 Vienna, Tel: 5264 770). This quaint establishment is open from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m., 7 days a week. To say hello to Ali and other unexpected guests, take the U3 to Volkstheater. It is only a short stroll away to where time stands still.


From Hollenthons website. Members from Hollenthon, Summoning, Abigor, etc. may be found there from time to time.


LoL I have no clue what you are talking about.

So I'm thinking my next guitar will be...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Electric?sku=518666

or this one...which would be more practial with all the metal I'm listening too/playing

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Electric?sku=511488

[IheartSP]

Britton I suggest a similar Jackson. Most of the models around 500 all have the same specs and with a pickup upgrade they rock (I know from experience). The problem with the Rhoads is it is uncomfortable to play sitting and suttin bothers me about signature models.

[repcak]

my next guitar will be the Jackson DXMG (Dinky series) - it was love at the first sight :D


good night(engl.) - dobranoc(polish) - vale noctem(latin) - gute nacht(german)
:lol:

[IheartSP]

I've got a Kelly KE-3. It's basically the same as the RR3, the DXMG, and the WRXT, just a different shape.

[Silenius]

my next guitar will be the Jackson DXMG (Dinky series) - it was love at the first sight :D


good night(engl.) - dobranoc(polish) - vale noctem(latin) - gute nacht(german)
:lol:
Gute nacht. :wave:

btw I have the DXMG, it's a great guitar, worth all the money.

[MRDuCran]

I really want an ESP SV now since I have an obsession with Alexi at the moment, his guitar just looks soo cool.

[Silenius]

Flying V's look cool but are pretty bad when it comes to playing sitting down.

[Shred Danson]

Gute nacht. :wave:

btw I have the DXMG, it's a great guitar, worth all the money.

\m/

(has a DKMG)

[MRDuCran]

Flying V's look cool but are pretty bad when it comes to playing sitting down.

Yeah I can imagine.

[Toaster]

I've been thinking of getting a new guitar, but I really want a seven string. I want to go Jackson, but compared to Schecter they're really expensive.. does anyone here have any experience with seven-string Jacksons?

[Silenius]

The only one I know of is the Christian Olde blah blah blah signature. Dunno how much that costs.

[Shattered_Future]

LoL I have no clue what you are talking about.

So I'm thinking my next guitar will be...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Electric?sku=518666

or this one...which would be more practial with all the metal I'm listening too/playing

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Electric?sku=511488

I'd say save your money more, and buy an actual Gibson Les Paul (or Heritage Les Paul. It'll last you for life, and it's perfect for any kind of music.

If I would get a 7 string guitar, I'd probably go for one of those Ernie Ball 7 string John Petrucci styled ones, aside from the fact they cost a riduculous amount. :mad:

[PsychoticFlubber]

I think alot of Gibson Les Pauls are a waste of money. It's almost like a Fender Strat. Except for the fact that it has so many variations that you will probably end up blowing alot of money just for the brand name. I have never played a seven string though... I am a six string person...

[Aakon_Keetreh]

I think alot of Gibson Les Pauls are a waste of money. It's almost like a Fender Strat. Except for the fact that it has so many variations that you will probably end up blowing alot of money just for the brand name. I have never played a seven string though... I am a six string person...


your paying for the name

[Shattered_Future]

I think alot of Gibson Les Pauls are a waste of money. It's almost like a Fender Strat. Except for the fact that it has so many variations that you will probably end up blowing alot of money just for the brand name. I have never played a seven string though... I am a six string person...

True, some of them are riduculously overpriced, but you do get what you pay for. The guitar has a terrific feel to it, you can use it to play many, MANY different styles of music (I use mine for metal, jazz, other stuff), and it really does sound amazing.

[PsychoticFlubber]

Yeah true. I choose a Fender Strat, 'cause I am yet another guitarist who started out on a Fender Squier Strat and still uses it to this day... (4 years only). I think Les Pauls are beautiful but I enjoy a strat sound more though... it's just my preference. I think Les Pauls sound absolutely sick with EMG's built in...

[Britton]

I really want an ESP SV now since I have an obsession with Alexi at the moment, his guitar just looks soo cool.

Well yea that's what I really want...but I can't afford it.

on second thought I'm not gonna get the rhoads...it only has 22 frets and I have that many on my rippoff LP right now. then again it does have a tremolo...

I would really love to have a real LP but I would feel bad if I had one.

[IheartSP]

The DXMG has 24 frets

[Darkwing Duck]

I get to see my first Bodom show, they never usually come to Virginia, and if they do its in DC or close to it.

Since you all are talking about guitars please indulge yourself with this page

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/index.html

[Britton]

I get to see my first Bodom show, they never usually come to Virginia, and if they do its in DC or close to it.

Since you all are talking about guitars please indulge yourself with this page

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/index.html

Awsome dude! It's a great show.

Those guitars are sexy. But I want the two pickup model.

I'm not to in to signature guitars either

[Darkwing Duck]

Me either, but that gives me something to look at when i'm bored

Explore the japan website, just make sure it's index2, it is in english and is setup differently.

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/index2

[Britton]

Me either, but that gives me something to look at when i'm bored

Explore the japan website, just make sure it's index2, it is in english and is setup differently.

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/index2

Those are really big guitars.

I got to meet Alexi and touch one of his Black ones and one of his White ones.

they rock

[Darkwing Duck]

I heard Alexi was a dick... If I got to meet him I would be so happy.

[Britton]

That's what I heard too. But I saw him standing by their bus so I went up and said Hello. And he talked to me for about five minutes. I was shaking as I walked away

[Darkwing Duck]

I'd get a picture.... I just figured out how to do the high Alexi to black metal vocals. I'm gonna go there early since there is a 5 story mall across from the venue. MAYBE I will see the band in there.

[Britton]

I'd get a picture.... I just figured out how to do the high Alexi to black metal vocals. I'm gonna go there early since there is a 5 story mall across from the venue. MAYBE I will see the band in there.


They'll probably be warming up...but you never know.

[PsychoticFlubber]

That's what I heard too. But I saw him standing by their bus so I went up and said Hello. And he talked to me for about five minutes. I was shaking as I walked away

I would've passed out hahahaha. Lucky you.:thumb:

[MRDuCran]

Some cool Alexi style guitars that aren't his, so they probably won't be so expensive.
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2504/1817va.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/150/6615ub.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9789/espcustombody3bu.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=espcustombody3bu.jpg)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1126/espcustomtop2fa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I doubt I'll meet Alexi, I have to leave after the show to get the last train.


Hey Darkwing Duck, would you like to explain how to do the black metal vocal please. :D

[PsychoticFlubber]

Some cool Alexi style guitars that aren't his, so they probably won't be so expensive.
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2504/1817va.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/150/6615ub.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9789/espcustombody3bu.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=espcustombody3bu.jpg)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1126/espcustomtop2fa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


That's so sick! I love the scythe inlays though... I have an inlay fetish I guess...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I don't think that green and black one is cheap either. I saw it in a shop, it's a signature model jackson. I forget whose sig it is though.

[Shadows]

I would love to buy a custom Jackson that was built to match Alexi's old sig guitar. That thing was pure sex. I love those scythe inlays too.

[Britton]

I would love to buy a custom Jackson that was built to match Alexi's old sig guitar. That thing was pure sex. I love those scythe inlays too.


Yea I love the inlays

[PsychoticFlubber]

I love the feel of a nice oil neck, with an ebony fretboard and sick inlays... so I too love Alexi's guitars... I love the old ones too... only if they had the scythe inlays as well...

[mike-o]

I get to see my first Bodom show, they never usually come to Virginia, and if they do its in DC or close to it.

Since you all are talking about guitars please indulge yourself with this page

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/index.html

you goin to the norva? pm me.

[MRDuCran]

Wildchild:
http://news.sinky.net/uploadpic/200552617157428.jpg

I have to agree, it's beautiful.


I found another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jackson-Kevin-Bond-Signature-Guitar-Red-Bevel_W0QQitemZ7383002431QQcategoryZ33044QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

Only about £400 for me if I was to buy it.

[repcak]

it's sad that the wildchild-guitar has been stolen :( would like to have the same model :(

[PsychoticFlubber]

I found another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jackson-Kevin-Bond-Signature-Guitar-Red-Bevel_W0QQitemZ7383002431QQcategoryZ33044QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

Only about £400 for me if I was to buy it.

Actually, that guitar is the signature guitar for one of the guitarist in Superjoint Ritual I believe... if not them, than it was some black metal band, cause I saw a picture of someone with that exact guitar in a magazine...

[repcak]

Actually, that guitar is the signature guitar for one of the guitarist in Superjoint Ritual I believe... if not them, than it was some black metal band, cause I saw a picture of someone with that exact guitar in a magazine...
it is the signature guitar from one of superjoint ritual... you're right

[PsychoticFlubber]

Eh... the SR guitar looks cool I guess, but I still prefer... actually that green striped RR that Alexi used in the Reap .n Roll licks video, because it seems to have a great feel to it. I believe it is Roope's...

[King_Of_Terrors]

it's sad that the wildchild-guitar has been stolen :( would like to have the same model :(

Stolen? What do you mean by that?

[repcak]

as far as i know, alexi doesn't have his old wildchild-guita anymore... i once read that it was stolen. that's the reason why he is playing on ESP guitars now.

Eh... the SR guitar looks cool I guess, but I still prefer... actually that green striped RR that Alexi used in the Reap .n Roll licks video, because it seems to have a great feel to it. I believe it is Roope's...
it's not roope's old guitar (the wildchild-guitar) but alexi bought it from one of the guitarists from stone.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

i read that he got it back but he prolly doesnt play it on stage anymore who knows

[Darkwing Duck]

you goin to the norva? pm me. PMs don't work, but if you have a myspace you can send me a message at

http://www.myspace.com/wtfmatewannasurf

[MRDuCran]

Eh... the SR guitar looks cool I guess, but I still prefer... actually that green striped RR that Alexi used in the Reap .n Roll licks video, because it seems to have a great feel to it. I believe it is Roope's...

:confused: He doesn't use a green striped guitar...

[Kurrpt]

yea, i just checked the video on my IPOD video




nope, no green stripes

[MRDuCran]

I didn't know you listened to CoB.

[Kurrpt]

I didn't know you listened to CoB.



yea, i have a few albums on my old mp3 player



I love the guitar work + piano a lot. The vocals are alright i guess. Not particularly my bag per say

[MRDuCran]

Sounds good. Playing this stuff will give you a workout on that 6 string!

[Kurrpt]

Sounds good. Pplaying this stuff will give you a workout on that 6 string!



i got the passage video on the IPOD, so it really gave me the incentive to start learning something from them.



Then i realized i need more string skipping work :lol:

[MRDuCran]

String skipping, look at the 2nd solo in Sixpounder. :thumb:

[Kurrpt]

String skipping, look at the 2nd solo in Sixpounder. :thumb:



....so i can realize i need even MORE work :lol:



ive been using the acoustic lately to really help with technique and sh!t. The girl is gone today, so its just me, my triple recto, and that beautiful PRS tremonti



Good time

[MRDuCran]

How come you're not playing the JEM?

[Kurrpt]

How come you're not playing the JEM?


i traded it straight up for the triple rectifier



after my girl got me that PRS signature, nothing else felt/sounded as good ya know

[MRDuCran]

:eek: You traded it! You only had it for a little while.
But I can understand why, it's all good.

[Kurrpt]

:eek: You traded it! You only had it for a little while.
But I can understand why, it's all good.


yea man



like i said tho, the tremonti just PWNS the JEM so friggin bad. thankfully i got a triple rectifier for trading the JEM, and im in tonal heaven

[MRDuCran]

You should get some sound clips up.

Oh, and for for some string skipping, try Scarified bt Gilberto if you haven't already.
The new version he plays on his own is better since it's got 2 bar s.k lick at the beginning, then the Bach part has s.k, and right at the end which is the hardest part.

[Kurrpt]

i also have a video of PG playing scarified on my IPOD :lol:



hes in some friggin astronauts suit, and playing all the instruments

[MRDuCran]

All the instruments? I haven't seen that I don't think. I have him in a space suit but he's with 2 other guys, a bassist and a drummer.

But yeah, I suggest learning Scarified, Snakebite, Superheroes, Street Lethal, Motorman, all by Racer X, they will all test your s.k abilities not only for lead palying, but rhythm too!! :thumb:

[Kurrpt]

All the instruments? I haven't seen that I don't think. I have him in a space suit but he's with 2 other guys, a bassist and a drummer.

But yeah, I suggest learning Scarified, Snakebite, Superheroes, Street Lethal, Motorman, all by Racer X, they will all test your s.k abilities not only for lead palying, but rhythm too!! :thumb:



not sure how much of those i could really play tbh



ive been doing exercises for 4 months to build my chops to be able to play that sh!t. I guess i just gotta give it a go huh

[MRDuCran]

Well I can't play it at the same speed at Paul but I can play it as clean because I choose not to play it as fast as possible or play along with the CD or whatever. There's no harm in learning the solos, the problem occurs when you ignore note definition and try and play it fast to impress people like some other people on here.
You could just use them as exercises that you practise everyday with a metronome, which is definately what I should be doing instead of sitting on here. :upset:

[Kurrpt]

Well I can't play it at the same speed at Paul but I can play it as clean because I choose not to play it as fast as possible or play along with the CD or whatever. There's no harm in learning the solos, the problem occurs when you ignore note definition and try and play it fast to impress people like some other people on here.
You could just use them as exercises that you practise everyday with a metronome, which is definately what I should be doing instead of sitting on here. :upset:



yea man, thats really fukking good to hear.




as far as playing a metronome goes, i always seem to WANT to use it with weird licks that dont fit into 4/4 that easily


like the intro to universal mind - liquid tension experiment...


the intro is played at 155 bpm, 16th notes, but the weird thing is the pattern only repeats after 4 measures, so the down beats dont match up like you would want them to ya know

[PsychoticFlubber]

:confused: He doesn't use a green striped guitar...

In the "Reap 'n Roll Licks" video, he does. It might be hard to see the green, but it is along the edge of the guitar. I swear that is the greatest guitar in the world... I would never possibly want a better guitar than that... the only thing I could possibly change are the inlays to scythes...

[MRDuCran]

I'm not to familiar with that song but I'll have a listen.

[MRDuCran]

In the "Reap 'n Roll Licks" video, he does. It might be hard to see the green, but it is along the edge of the guitar. I swear that is the greatest guitar in the world... I would never possibly want a better guitar than that... the only thing I could possibly change are the inlays to scythes...

Well I checked and I can't see any green at all through the entire video, looks like a pure black standard Jackson RR to me.

[Kurrpt]

I'm not to familiar with that song but I'll have a listen.



its one of those personal bench mark songs everyone has.


I think petrucci is phenomenal on that entire CD tbh

[PsychoticFlubber]

Well I checked and I can't see any green at all through the entire video, looks like a pure black standard Jackson RR to me.
Eh. I assure you, it is green though... I have great color on my computer, but I think the green is on the outer rim of the guitar. Not on the front. It doesn't matter, that's not the point. I just think that is the greatest guitar I have ever seen...

[MRDuCran]

its one of those personal bench mark songs everyone has.


I think petrucci is phenomenal on that entire CD tbh

I dno what cd is which but I adore Pardigm Shift, the first time I heard that I was just like :eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Kurrpt]

just got a band offer actually.



Im used to dealing with friggin jerks, so hopefully this wont turn out like that


edit: paradigm shift is on that same CD


I tried that intro too. GOOD GOD. Thats the whole reason i started sweeping. Give my left hand muting a work out ya know

[MRDuCran]

Paradigm Shift doesn't have sweep picking...:confused:

[Kurrpt]

Paradigm Shift doesn't have sweep picking...:confused:



yea, i know man...



i was comparing runs at 221 bpm 16ths, and articulating to sweep picking, since both require the left hand to articulate the notes

[MRDuCran]

oh lol im really tired so simple things arent going to make much sense

[Kurrpt]

oh lol im really tired so simple things arent going to make much sense



its kewl man


i probably could have explained myself more.



This new band sent me their set list. I fukking hate how people expect you to learn 12 songs in a like a day. I try to get them perfect ya know.


O well

[MRDuCran]

What songs are on the list?

[Kurrpt]

ah lets see

/opens email


audio slave - what you are

green day - holiday

metallica - bell tolls

lit - my own worst enemy
weezer - undone
sabbath - paranoid (megadeath version)
white stripes - seven nation army
shinedown - save me
smashing pumpkins - zero
manson - beautiful people
chains - we die young
trapt- still frame



sad thing is, i only heard half of those songs

[IheartSP]

What an odd setlist, some stuff is okay some is kinda stupid (seven nation army lol).

[MRDuCran]

The only ones I'd look forward to are 'Tallica!!!!! and the Megadeth version of Paranoid, the rest are kinda ghey lol.

[Kurrpt]

The only ones I'd look forward to are 'Tallica!!!!! and the Megadeth version of Paranoid, the rest are kinda ghey lol.



yea, i agree man. Not really my bag


i figured ill learn some of the ones i like, and see how they are. If we dont click, fu*k it ya know.


Id be lead, so thats a lil better i guess. If i had to chug chords to some of that sh!t, id lose it haha

[MRDuCran]

hah well good luck with sitting up with those songs on repeat, i know how discouraging it can be, ive had to do it with the beatles, queen, blur, U2, franz ferdinand, and i didnt really like any of them but they kinda grow on you once you've learnt them and then it kinda becomes fun playing them.

[IheartSP]

There aren't many perks of playing lead in those songs cause most of them don't even have a lead.

[mike-o]

PMs don't work, but if you have a myspace you can send me a message at

http://www.myspace.com/wtfmatewannasurf

gay. so are you going to the norva?

[Kurrpt]

There aren't many perks of playing lead in those songs cause most of them don't even have a lead.


haha thats kinda what i was thinking hehe


but maybe i could write my own

[IheartSP]

You should form your own band. Find people around who have similar interests, or do what I did and try and convert people.

[PsychoticFlubber]

We Die Young by Alice in Chains is a really fun song to play and hear. That is a good one, although the solo is a bit tricky. I never attempted the solo but watching Jerry Cantrel do it freaked me out a bit, I don't know why... yeah, I can't learn all of those in a short period of time so good luck.

[Kurrpt]

You should form your own band. Find people around who have similar interests, or do what I did and try and convert people.



yea, thats almost nay impossible.


I tried finding another band, that failed miserably (In the past)


my friends a drummer, but plays punk, so that aint working :lol:



/screwed

[PsychoticFlubber]

my friends a drummer, but plays punk, so that aint working :lol:

/screwed

Hahaha, I feel the same way. There is only one drummer I know, and he plays punk. One other guitarist who actually plays, but is no where close to a decent performance level. Another person is just a kid looking to sing. But everyone has different musical interests. Gangster-type cities are impossible to find decent musicians...

[Kurrpt]

actually, id be cooler with some black person rapping, while i play some funky beats

[PsychoticFlubber]

actually, id be cooler with some black person rapping, while i play some funky beats
I would rather get shot than play with some F**Kin' idiot rapping in the mic. I can't stand hearing that stuff, ESPECIALLY hybrid stuff like Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit... Oh damn I better not end up with people like that. To everyone here, the heaviest or scarriest bands in the world are Slipknot, KoRn, (and for the kids who think they are "underground" Cradle of Filth).

[Shadows]

Pfffft, CoF > nu metal

Hahaha, I feel the same way. There is only one drummer I know, and he plays punk. One other guitarist who actually plays, but is no where close to a decent performance level. Another person is just a kid looking to sing. But everyone has different musical interests. Gangster-type cities are impossible to find decent musicians...
Haha, that sucks. My town is void of musicians as well. I know a couple emo bassist, one metal guitarist who has pretty much given that up to play piano instead, and that's about it.

[IheartSP]

Yeah numetal is sorta dead tho, the big new thing now is metalcore. All the kids around here love Atreyu and As I Lay Dying. It pisses me off when they see me with a Bodom shirt and are like oh sweet band dude and I'm like oh waht are you into? Then they name 5 crappy new american bands and im just like wtf dude you don't deserve to listen to Bodom, and it is an insult even mentioning Bodom with those other bands in the same sentence.

[Britton]

actually, id be cooler with some black person rapping, while i play some funky beats


I have this frickin awsome drummer who lays down really cool beats. Then I pull out the Wah and get funky and this Black guy from down the street comes and raps over it all.

It's tons of fun.

[I'm Charming]

Please kill me....

html class is so painful .


i could die now and die in utter suffering... but a happy man... I saw bodom live.....

[PsychoticFlubber]

Yeah numetal is sorta dead tho, the big new thing now is metalcore. All the kids around here love Atreyu and As I Lay Dying. It pisses me off when they see me with a Bodom shirt and are like oh sweet band dude and I'm like oh waht are you into? Then they name 5 crappy new american bands and im just like wtf dude you don't deserve to listen to Bodom, and it is an insult even mentioning Bodom with those other bands in the same sentence.

Haha, yeah I know how that feels big time. Damn mall kids. Metalcore isn't too big, it's all hardcore. There is a difference between them, and when I thought the kids at the mall couldn't get worse, they got worse. The emo kids are either too cared to talk to me, or the try to whore all of the social world that surrounds them. All the kids that claim what I listen to is "cool" has never heard 90% of the bands I listen to, and/or only listen to bands they hear on the radio, or from the "popular kids" they like.

[I'm Charming]

Kids here just run around and praise anything they see marketing to the masses at hot topic...

"They sell it, it must be good/talented".

No one listens to metal.

[Toaster]

There's so much drama about bands near me right now, it's unbelieveable. Lineup changes and drummer wars, it's really frustrating and extremely depressing. I used to have a great band but it turned out that my drummer was a complete dick (although he was an awesome drummer), and our bassist/singer had a control-freak personality. In fact today there was a really big incident involving our old guitarist and a singer I know.

[Shadows]

At least you have bands around you. :(

[Toaster]

At this point I'd definitely rather have no bands around me. Without expanding, there have been some really nasty, hurtful things that have happened to me lately regarding bands.

[Shadows]

That can be bad, but as musician, it could be worth it. If you live in an area with plenty of bands and musical opportunities around you, that is definitely going to push you forward and make you a better musician. If you're like me and there's very little available, you end up sitting around doing nothing and wondering why everyone else is better then you. I've never been in a band and at the rate things are going, I most likely never will be before I leave for college next year. I think at this point I'd much rather have a place filled with music, even if it is too full, then a place with nothing.

[IheartSP]

We used to have a cool melodic death band around here called Necrosis. Then the members started goin out with these poser chicks and for the past year they have transitioned into metalcore/hardcore. It is kind of a dissapointment. Ultima will forever be true metal, no doubt about that, and soon were gonna dominate the local scene.

[Britton]

There are a lot of Bands in S.A (1.2 million people) but very few in my social life.
I would much rather have lots of bad bands then none at al.

My band is living for the summer right now. when it comes we are gonna be ready to rock!

[Toaster]

That can be bad, but as musician, it could be worth it. If you live in an area with plenty of bands and musical opportunities around you, that is definitely going to push you forward and make you a better musician. If you're like me and there's very little available, you end up sitting around doing nothing and wondering why everyone else is better then you. I've never been in a band and at the rate things are going, I most likely never will be before I leave for college next year. I think at this point I'd much rather have a place filled with music, even if it is too full, then a place with nothing.

It wasn't about me being kicked out of anything. Basically I'm just bitter about less-talented musicians getting lucky with an online gigging organization.

[I'm Charming]

I would form a band. If I met people that were good AND knew what real metal is.


I'd never stoop to the level of "core".

[Shattered_Future]

My old band was decent, but split up because we couldn't agree on what to play.

Now it's just me and a bassist, who both have the same musical tastes. That works out rather well.

Our old drummer does too, but he's just beginning to play...I don't know if he's gotten better or not.

[IheartSP]

If only Leah were here to enjoy...

Check out Ultima's first "recording" (hehehe). It's probably our most speed metal song, the rest are significantly more power, but oh well it's our most accessible you could say.

http://www.myspace.com/ultimatheband enjoy

[Shadows Within]

If only Leah were here to enjoy...

Check out Ultima's first "recording" (hehehe). It's probably our most speed metal song, the rest are significantly more power, but oh well it's our most accessible you could say.

http://www.myspace.com/ultimatheband enjoy
where is she?

also me and my friend are going to be starting a band once we get it together we are going to play covers untill we get good at playing together then we hopefully gonna start wrinig our own stuf olnly problem is that my friends a total wanker when it comes to playing if where playing hendrix he would still use his wylde overdrive use too many pinch harmonics and over use the wah....thats the only thing im worried about.

[blue3]

Nice song.

My old band sucked so I quit. The band I'm in now sucks too. We don't really practice much or anything. We hang out a lot though.. just never actually jam.

[Forlorn Hope]

My old band was decent, but split up because we couldn't agree on what to play.

Now it's just me and a bassist, who both have the same musical tastes. That works out rather well.

Our old drummer does too, but he's just beginning to play...I don't know if he's gotten better or not.
We have a band, but we aren't quite skilled enough to play the stuff we really want to...(Bodom) And our bassist is really religious and refuses to play anything too immoral.(Bodom) sigh...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I have no band.

Once I get a new hard drive, I will install Drumkit From Hell and maybe record some stuff.

[I'm Charming]

We have a band, but we aren't quite skilled enough to play the stuff we really want to...(Bodom) And our bassist is really religious and refuses to play anything too immoral.(Bodom) sigh...


That's the problem with religous people. They are so damn narrow minded. They think "it's immoral and therefor their opinion is all".


Besides? What's so immoral about CoB?

[Forlorn Hope]

That's the problem with religous people. They are so damn narrow minded. They think "it's immoral and therefor their opinion is all".


Besides? What's so immoral about CoB?
:lol: They are plenty immoral. Not all religious people are like that. I am a Christian, but I still listen to metal and am not offended by the immorality of my music.

[I'm Charming]

:lol: They are plenty immoral. Not all religious people are like that. I am a Christian, but I still listen to metal and am not offended by the immorality of my music.


I didn't mean their "religion" was the problem.

I personally can't see how anyone would buy that stuff, but if it helps you be a better person, great.

Religion seems to bring about this self rightious arrogance and "your morals are everyones morals" type of belief.

[Forlorn Hope]

I didn't mean their "religion" was the problem.

I personally can't see how anyone would buy that stuff, but if it helps you be a better person, great.

Religion seems to bring about this self rightious arrogance and "your morals are everyones morals" type of belief.
It depends on the person really. There are some people that KNOW they are right and are determined to prove you wrong, and tell you all the time that you will burn in hell if you don't believe. Then there are the respectful people that believe what they believe and respect that not everyone believes in the same stuff.

[I'm Charming]

It depends on the person really. There are some people that KNOW they are right and are determined to prove you wrong, and tell you all the time that you will burn in hell if you don't believe. Then there are the respectful people that believe what they believe and respect that not everyone believes in the same stuff.

I'm talking about the dead set and pushy people.

BTW.

Burning in "hell" > party in heaven with mormons

Having my flesh burn for eternity and be cast down into a pit of flames forever enduring my damnation sounds alot better then,

Playing card games with mormons in "heaven".

Just a thought.

[Forlorn Hope]

I'm talking about the dead set and pushy people.

BTW.

Burning in "hell" > party in heaven with mormons

Having my flesh burn for eternity and be cast down into a pit of flames forever enduring my damnation sounds alot better then,

Playing card games with mormons in "heaven".

Just a thought.
Yes, I cannot stand the pushy people. Especially when I used to be aethiest. They actually made me want to believe less and less :lol:

[I'm Charming]

Yes, I cannot stand the pushy people. Especially when I used to be aethiest. They actually made me want to believe less and less :lol:

How did you go from not beliving in anything to religious?

Most people go the other way... Religous to non regligous?

[Forlorn Hope]

How did you go from not beliving in anything to religious?

Most people go the other way... Religous to non regligous?
Friend I knew had a little, um, experience. Rather not go into detail but it was pretty messed up.
:lol: Sounds stupid and silly but oh well...

[I'm Charming]

Friend I knew had a little, um, experience. Rather not go into detail but it was pretty messed up.
:lol: Sounds stupid and silly but oh well...



Yup. You got coverted. :p

[Forlorn Hope]

Yup. You got coverted. :p
:lol: (shrugs shoulders)
You make it sound like a disease :p

[PsychoticFlubber]

I suck too much to be in a band I think. I have strong expectations of myself and others, but I always feel the need to be the best over all player and song writter in the group. I would never fuss or be a "control freak" like some, but I would over work myself. Right now, since I don't know anyone I just practice for an hour or two a day (which is sadly all I seem to be able to handle). Since I don't know anyone, than I see myself as better than most kids around here (I am not trying to sound cocky or conceted). I can't seem to get better, 'cause I don't have the ability to practice for hours and hours like most people. Maybe I am just not practicing right...

[Forlorn Hope]

I suck too much to be in a band I think. I have strong expectations of myself and others, but I always feel the need to be the best over all player and song writter in the group. I would never fuss or be a "control freak" like some, but I would over work myself. Right now, since I don't know anyone I just practice for an hour or two a day (which is sadly all I seem to be able to handle). Since I don't know anyone, than I see myself as better than most kids around here (I am not trying to sound cocky or conceted). I can't seem to get better, 'cause I don't have the ability to practice for hours and hours like most people. Maybe I am just not practicing right...
I only practice about an hour or two a day also. If you can't seem to get better, try learning a new technique or learning a new song that is just beyond your current capabilities, and work at it until you can play it.

[Shadows]

I'm hoping that learning Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood will do that for me. I seem to be stuck in one of those times where I just can't seem to get any better.

[PsychoticFlubber]

Yeah, it's not fun. I have random days where I feel damn better than usual, but then most days where it's not even my average. It sucks. I try to gain speed, control, and technique, but I rely on correct tabs (ones I can print too) cause I have the demo to guitar pro 4 which won't let me print...

[Shadows]

That sucks. I have the full version, but for some reason I can never play gp files. Luckily I don't rely on that. When I want to learn a song I tab it all out myself using my transcribing program, that way I know for sure that it's 100% perfect. It takes a long time to do, but it gives me piece of mind.

[I'm Charming]

I'm hoping that learning Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood will do that for me. I seem to be stuck in one of those times where "I just can't seem to get any better.


I'm kinda in this as well.

I was working on Nightwish's Planet Hell but then got bored of it because it wasn't at all challenging.

[PsychoticFlubber]

Hmm... does anyone have a GP5 full version that they can upload for me on YSI or something? If not it's okay. I wasn't sure... just 'cause I need decent backing tracks for things, and I always want to print on GP4 but I can't...

[Britton]

Yea I get stuck in ruts all the time. I go through cycles and every three or four
where nothing happens then my playing over night seems to get better. S o I'm waiting for that to happen again.

As of lately I''ve been working on Jazz and Classical music Technique...I heard that helped some Finnish dude...

[I'm Charming]

Sometimes I try and push myself, sounds bad. Then I get better at w/e the new thing I was doing is, then I get bored.

Repeat this cycle many times.

[PsychoticFlubber]

Yea I get stuck in ruts all the time. I go through cycles and every three or four
where nothing happens then my playing over night seems to get better. S o I'm waiting for that to happen again.

As of lately I''ve been working on Jazz and Classical music Technique...I heard that helped some Finnish dude...

Learning any other types of music helps alot on any of your skill. I should start learning blues, classical, and jazz as well.

[I'm Charming]

Learning any other types of music helps alot on any of your skill. I should start learning blues, classical, and jazz as well.

I think that's one downfall I have with guitar. I will never touch any other kind of music.

I'm only interested in metal and only will play metal.

Even though I know it could help me alot to play classical.

[PsychoticFlubber]

I wanna learn classical too, but I only like things like "Dee" by Randy Rhoads. I have a classical guitar too... a very cheap one.

[Shadows]

I've been working on jazz for a while. I'm still a beginner at it, but I like it. It throws you very heavily into music theory. Unfortunately, due to limited practice time and repeated cancellations of lessons, I've been progressing very slowly.

[Toaster]

I tried jazz once, and my teacher was pressing me to undo all the work I had done on picking. I'm a pretty solid alternate picker, but for some reason he thought it would have more "soul" if I memorized how I pick for certain lines. For example, if I were to play any scale he'd make up these stupid, pointless patterns (up, up, down, up, down, down, up, etc.) that would take a long time to learn, but wouldn't help me in the least. I already know my music theory, so I've given up jazz.

[Shadows]

That sounds like a colossal waste of time. There's no sense in trying to re-learn pointlessly difficult picking patterns because it supposedly has more "soul".

[I'm Charming]

That sounds like a colossal waste of time. There's no sense in trying to re-learn pointlessly difficult picking patterns because it supposedly has more "soul".


The exact reasons I've never done lessons and never will.

I just get a tab and play. Listen to the song if I need to figure w/e out.

I did have to correct my picking a while into playing guitar though.

Forever I only downpicked and it slowed me down alot. Not to mention it was wicked on my hand/forearm.

It took me about a week of solid practice and then I realized how much better it is.

Long time ago. But... Only picking thing that ever meant anything.

[Shadows]

The exact reasons I've never done lessons and never will.
It's a shame that so many people associate private lessons with bad experiences. I've heard about some truly awful people "teaching" others how to play, and it's almost sad that aspiring musicians should be stuck with such a horrible instructor. I've been taking lessons for well over two years and I have no regrests at all. My teacher is an incredible guitarist, knows more about all kinds of music thenI could ever hope to, and has taught me things that I know I would not have learned on my own. A bad teacher can be an extreme hindrance, but a good one can be the most valuable resource a musician will ever have.

[Shattered_Future]

My guitar teacher is excellent. Theory, methods, new music, everything. He's quite good, and you'll learn a lot from him.

Jazz guitar is quite hard, yet a hell of a lot of fun once you pick it up and learn how to get it down pretty well.

[I'm Charming]

I have no interest in learning theory.

It just seems dull and boring. I've gotten to where I am without any and I don't see any need for it in the future.

[Unhappy_poet/bassist]

Sixpounder. I don't like this band that much. They make some really good songs, they makes some reallly ****ty songs.

Alexi blows as a writer and vocalist, they use too many keyboards, but the guitar solo's actually keep me slightly interested.

[A-S-S-H-A-T]

I hate the idea of teachers...
And besides, learning stuff is way more rewarding when you teach yourself.

[I'm Charming]

Sixpounder. I don't like this band that much. They make some really good songs, they makes some reallly ****ty songs.

Alexi blows as a writer and vocalist, they use too many keyboards, but the guitar solo's actually keep me slightly interested.

Reported.

I hate the idea of teachers...
And besides, learning stuff is way more rewarding when you teach yourself.

You hit the nail on the head... or whatever they say.

Figuring things out yourself feels so much better then having someone point and tell you "now you do this, then this, little this way... noooo, all wrong, ahh much better" etc.

[Unhappy_poet/bassist]

Reported.... wha? :confused:

[I'm Charming]

Reported.... wha? :confused:

You came into the thread and engaged in mindless flaming.

Flaming isn't allowed.

Thus, I reported your comment.

That is all.

[Unhappy_poet/bassist]

Duly noted.

[I'm Charming]

Duly noted.

If you don't like CoB perhaps stay out of the thread?

I'll gladly debate based on, facts and views. I won't engage in a mindless insult war though.

[guitrguy]

I have no interest in learning theory.

It just seems dull and boring. I've gotten to where I am without any and I don't see any need for it in the future.
Its going to be hella hard you to play metal up to par with out any knowledge of theory.
If you don't know the right techniques there is a good chance you can blow you shoulder, wrist or elbow out. you can also give you self a bursitis.


That really isn't a flame BTW

[Unhappy_poet/bassist]

I didn't say I hate the band, I said they make some good songs and some bad songs, and I provided reasons.

Way to inconsistent in songwriting, overuse of keyboards, bad vocals. Reason enough?

[guitrguy]

I didn't say I hate the band, I said they make some good songs and some bad songs, and I provided reasons.

Way to inconsistent in songwriting, overuse of keyboards, bad vocals. Reason enough?
It is for me.

[MRDuCran]

Sounds like you just need to go somewhere else to me.

[I'm Charming]

Its going to be hella hard you to play metal up to par with out any knowledge of theory.
If you don't know the right techniques there is a good chance you can blow you shoulder, wrist or elbow out. you can also give you self a bursitis.


That really isn't a flame BTW

What the hell does musical theory have to do with blowing a shoulder/wrist/elbow out?

That has to do with your picking technique NOT what scales/cords and such you know.

BTW. My picking technique is just fine.

[MRDuCran]

He's right. ^^^



I found out about the demonstration #2 in Passage to the Reaper, it's a Waltari song called "move".

[I'm Charming]

He's right. ^^^



I found out about the demonstration #2 in Passage to the Reaper, it's a Waltari song called "move".

Anyone have Passage To The Reaper?

Could they please send me it?

I've looked on google for it and all the p2p networks... Nothing.

I'll send 3 albums for it. lol.

[MRDuCran]

Well there's the demonstration #2 I just mentioned:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-752947032142755325&q=Children+of+Bodom

That's probably the whole thing:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7638214241718311132&q=Children+of+Bodom

Plus Bearshare has 69 sources for it.

[repcak]

Well there's the demonstration #2 I just mentioned:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-752947032142755325&q=Children+of+Bodom
.

can you tell what song this is? its not a CoB song... sinergy maybe? would like to get the tabs to this song.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

You came into the thread and engaged in mindless flaming.

Flaming isn't allowed.

Thus, I reported your comment.

That is all.
As if that was that was flaming.

He gave his opinion on the band. Just because he isn't a complete fanboy like you doesn't mean he can't post in the thread.

[MRDuCran]

can you tell what song this is? its not a CoB song... sinergy maybe? would like to get the tabs to this song.

I said at the top of the page...

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11189104&postcount=11681

[repcak]

He gave his opinion on the band. Just because he isn't a complete fanboy like you doesn't mean he can't post in the thread.
i agree.

I said at the top of the page...

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11189104&postcount=11681
hm.. haven't seen it, thanks. do you have the song? can you upload it?

[MRDuCran]

I have the song, I'll upload it later.
I also plan to transcribe most of it later too, I already know the backing, rhythm guitars and some of the licks. Hope you guys have GP if you want it.

[repcak]

sure; i have GP

[Shadows]

Wow, the tension in this thread is high this morning.

[Forlorn Hope]

Wow, the tension in this thread is high this morning.
:lol: Seems to be. Does anyone have the new Young Guitar DVD that Alexi was in? And is there any chance of somebody uploading it?

[repcak]

morning? :rolleyes: ... evening :D

no, i don't have the new Young Guitar DVD :(

[PsychoticFlubber]

:lol: Seems to be. Does anyone have the new Young Guitar DVD that Alexi was in? And is there any chance of somebody uploading it?
Yeah, I need it too... if anyone does, please do... I have been looking on p2p for too long... I am going to have a mental breakdown haha.

[Shattered_Future]

morning? :rolleyes: ... evening :D

no, i don't have the new Young Guitar DVD :(

Yea, well some of us aren't lucky enough to live in Europe. :angry:

If you don't know theory and attempt to be a musician for career, you're screwed. Plain and simple.

[Toaster]

Yea, well some of us aren't lucky enough to live in Europe. :angry:

If you don't know theory and attempt to be a musician for career, you're screwed. Plain and simple.

That's not entirely true.. I'd bet that 90% of band members out there know very little theory, if any at all. A studio musician is obviously a different story.

[PsychoticFlubber]

That's not entirely true.. I'd bet that 90% of band members out there know very little theory, if any at all. A studio musician is obviously a different story.

I want to know theory bad... I know it sounds nerdy, but I also want to be a studio musician... you know, making sick solo stuff... or be in a power metal (or death metal) band...

[Toaster]

I'd like to be a studio musician as well. It's a musical profession that's pretty steady work, and I'm confident that in a couple years I'll be capable of handling it. It's more of a wet dream than a goal, but it's nice to think about once in a while.

[Shadows]

Being a studio musician would be great, but as it stands I would need to build myself up a lot. It's not an easy thing. You have to be able to read music like a virtuoso.

That's not entirely true.. I'd bet that 90% of band members out there know very little theory, if any at all. A studio musician is obviously a different story.
I'd bet differently.

I know a bit theory right now, but I'm always ready to learn more. To me, being able to play things is only half of really being a musician. The other half comes from knowing how and why things work. And theory also seems like another way to put yourself further above non-musicians. Then again, I'm going to be a music major, so I'll be doing a hell of a lot of theory as time goes on.

[Toaster]

I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired. I've heard many, many songs that don't follow conventional rules associated with theory at all, but they find their own feel and convey something that someone well-educated in music theory could not. That's partly why I think that very few successful artists know theory.

[repcak]

i play only for myself. if i want know some theory, i learn it or ask someone who knows. i only learn the theory i need to and want to. i know enough theory to know how to play, so i stopped learning theory and play only.

and i agree totally with this:
I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired.

and that's the reason why i hate shredders and love Alexi Laiho... and how Alexi once said in guitar world: "some bands are super lame like dream theater" :thumb: i.a.w. Petrucci

[Shadows]

I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired. I've heard many, many songs that don't follow conventional rules associated with theory at all, but they find their own feel and convey something that someone well-educated in music theory could not. That's partly why I think that very few successful artists know theory.
I don't think this happens often. Theory teaches you how music works, but I'd be willing to bet that 90% of all guitarists who have mastered theory still write whatever they want, not thinking in terms of theory. Limiting yourself within those boundaries can do that, but only a very poor musician would do that to him/herself.

and that's the reason why i hate shredders and love Alexi Laiho... and how Alexi once said in guitar world: "some bands are super lame like dream theater" :thumb: i.a.w. Petrucci
Alexi is as much a shredder as any of those guys. He graduated from a music conservatory and knows an ungodly amount of music theory.

[repcak]

i see a difference of ppl who know theory and ppl who are shredders (without emotion) - beside that: did you have read the interview with alexi laiho in guitar world? (it was the cover with steve vai, alexi laiho and zakk wylde)

[I'm Charming]

I know what sounds good with what from playing alot. I don't need theory to tell me what sounds good with w/e.

I doubt most metal bands are well versed in theory.

Edit:

If anyone could upload the whole passage to the reaper video?

That would be great... I don't have/use bearshare.

[Britton]

i see a difference of ppl who know theory and ppl who are shredders (without emotion) - beside that: did you have read the interview with alexi laiho in guitar world? (it was the cover with steve vai, alexi laiho and zakk wylde)

Yea awsome interview.

His lessons in there have been Amemsly helpfull

Yea if anyone uploads Passage to the reaper can I get a copy of it too?

[repcak]

His lessons in there have been Amemsly helpfull

as far as i remember there weren't any lessons... only his old familiar column

[I'm Charming]

passage to the reaper was uploaded onto my forum.


http://www.piratesofbodom.proboards81.com

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[Porcupine_F*cker]

I got Follow The Reaper.... I thought it was average. The riffage I found pretty bad but the guitar and keyboard solo's kept me into it. I've heard some tracks off HateCrewDeathroll that are like some of my 100 favorite songs of all time and I'm a little intrigued...

But man, they should really tell Alexi to get off the mike.

[eddie_the_great]

He's not an amazing singer, more of a guitarist. I think his vocals are good, they fit the band well and don't dominate the songs.

[PsychoticFlubber]

I got Follow The Reaper.... I thought it was average. The riffage I found pretty bad but the guitar and keyboard solo's kept me into it. I've heard some tracks off HateCrewDeathroll that are like some of my 100 favorite songs of all time and I'm a little intrigued...

But man, they should really tell Alexi to get off the mike.

No way, man. People who I think should be kicked off vocal job are people like Fred Durst. As you can see, Bodom has many fans, who all LOVE Alexi like a god. So, don't bust out anything about the members. We love Alexi at vocals, even when others think he sucks.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

Well yes I'd rather have him than Fred Durst... But compared Hansi Kursch, Jeff Corpsegrinder, Nergal, Dead, John Peitibone, Angelripper, Vincent Crowley, David vincent, Rex Tucker and most extreme metal singers... he's pretty bad.

[eddie_the_great]

Who cares? I think his vocals are pretty good, and CoB isn't exactly dominated by the vocals. The Keyboard and Guitar solo parts make up most of their songs so I don't see why people make such a big deal over the vocals.

[eddie_the_great]

Also, it takes a hell of a lot of skill to solo and sing at the same time. Try playing the Kissing the Shadows chorus and singing it at the same time.

[King_Of_Terrors]

Alexi's vocals are superb. Great screams, he's very talented.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

I recognize this, but still I find Bill Steer a much better vocalist than Alexi who can do just as much. And I don't even like Carcass' vocals that much.
And Carcass makes far better riffs than COB.

Alexi is a monster guitarist, but in terms of songwriting riffage, and vocals, I could reaally care less.

[King_Of_Terrors]

That's nice. If you care less, then leave.

[eddie_the_great]

You can't be serious if you're saying that CoB don't have good riffs. Listen to any song off Follow the Reaper and tell me there aren't good riffs there.

[Effo Teh Waggle]

I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired. I've heard many, many songs that don't follow conventional rules associated with theory at all, but they find their own feel and convey something that someone well-educated in music theory could not. That's partly why I think that very few successful artists know theory.

This is completely false.

Those songs that don't seem to follow conventional theory rules actually follow some theoretical construct...You're probably just not aware of it.

While most successful pop artists might not know theory...They are also not the ones composing either ;)

[Porcupine_F*cker]

FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.

[eddie_the_great]

XD man. Hate Me would probably be the worst song on that album imo, the songs all have great riffage. The solos are crazy too, I'm with you on that, I love the ending to Kissing the Shadows.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

Well thats your opinion, but certainly not the bands. I believe thy chose Hate Me as the single.

[PsychoticFlubber]

FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.

Whatever you say... you just don't seem to follow our basic interests. But oh well, and the only singer I knew of yours up there was Corpsegrinder... he is a god. But, Glen Benton of Deicide is absolutely sick...

[eddie_the_great]

FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.

Nope, most of the people I know who like CoB say Follow the Reaper and Hatebreeder are their favourites. It's my fav anyway, but all the albums are good.

[AA-12]

FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.
What? How can you hate the riffage and like the rest?

he's very talented.
Far, far from it, Vocal wise.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

Oh man, you have to hear Bentons work with Vital Remains. That I think was the best Death metal albums of 2003 (Dechristianize).

[Porcupine_F*cker]

What? How can you hate the riffage and like the rest?

The same reason why I listen to Black Label Society. The solo's are pretty damn nice, but thats about it.

[eddie_the_great]

The same reason why I listen to Black Label Society. The solo's are pretty damn nice, but thats about it.

I've never liked Zakks solos. Nothing but wankage to me, but each to their own.

[King_Of_Terrors]

Porcupine ****er:

Dude go read the rules, your making like constant double posts.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

I've never liked Zakks solos. Nothing but wankage to me, but each to their own.

SuperTerrorizer. It's his best solo but I mean... he plays very similar solo's. He always chicken picks away towards similar pentatonic scales. It gets a little redundant. But that right there is proof of his skill.

Porcupine ****er:

Dude go read the rules, your making like constant double posts.

Is this better?

[PsychoticFlubber]

I've never liked Zakks solos. Nothing but wankage to me, but each to their own.

Zakk is a great guitar player. In BLS he never tried to write anything complicated. He wanted everyone to enjoy simple music, and I absolutely love it. Solos sound great to me.

[eddie_the_great]

Yeah I know he's a good guitar player I've just never found his playing that interesting.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

Yeah I know he's a good guitar player I've just never found his playing that interesting.

I pretty much agree, and also thats my opinion on Alexi

[eddie_the_great]

A bit of a change of subject but what do you guys think of Alexis live guitar playing? I've seen a few vids and in some he's perfect and in others he's painfully sloppy, mainly from when he had his Jacksons.

[eddie_the_great]

I pretty much agree, and also thats my opinion on Alexi

Yeah I know what you mean. Alexis solos can get tedious after a while, but I much prefer him to Zakk.

[AA-12]

passage to the reaper was uploaded onto my forum.


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My Bodom site > Your's.

[PsychoticFlubber]

If you need proof of Zakks amazing skill listen to his work with Ozzy on "Breakin' All the Rules" and the intro to "Rock 'n Roll Rebell".

[MRDuCran]

Hate Me isn't the worst song on FtR, WTF!

[eddie_the_great]

I don't need any proof of Zakks amazing skill. I've acknowledged he's a very good guitarist, but he's not someone that I enjoy listening to.

[eddie_the_great]

Hate Me isn't the worst song on FtR, WTF!

lol opinions. It's a good song but I prefer all the others more, I don't know why.

Edit: Sorry about the double posts. Is there any way to add a quote into an already written post?

[Porcupine_F*cker]

Hate Me isn't the worst song on FtR, WTF!

Yeah I know I'm saying, thats like one of their two singles off the album.

[Shattered_Future]

Worst song on FTR...

I actually DO think it might be Hate Me. I really can't stand that song...

Edit: Sorry about the double posts. Is there any way to add a quote into an already written post?

The little button with the speech bubble is the quote button. Hit edit, copy what you want to quote, and insert. :thumb:

Well, maybe Hate Me isn't the worst, but it's one of the less good songs on the album.

[eddie_the_great]

Or Hellion if that counts, but it's not written by CoB so I guess it doesn't.

[Shattered_Future]

How can you not like Hellion? I thought that was one of their best covers.

[eddie_the_great]

Yeah, but it doesn't compare to their originals and I'm not really a fan of cover songs.

[MRDuCran]

Hate Me is great. I'm less fond of Taste of my Scythe.

And Kissing the Shadows.

[eddie_the_great]

Taste of my Scythe would be another one of the weaker tracks on the album. Kissing the Shadows and Mask of Sanity are still my favourites.

[Toaster]

A bit of a change of subject but what do you guys think of Alexis live guitar playing? I've seen a few vids and in some he's perfect and in others he's painfully sloppy, mainly from when he had his Jacksons.

More proof that ESP > Jackson. :p

I think the worst song on FTR is either Mask of Sanity or Taste of my Scythe. Really, all the songs are awesome.

[eddie_the_great]

Or proof that Alexi's getting better at guitar :D

I'm selling my Jackson V to get an ESP or Ibanez now, it's not really my kinda guitar.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

Another question... I see a lot of nuts and non-knowledgable people label these guys as black metal. WTF, R U SERIOUS? Like immortal, Emperor, Early Mayhem, and Gorgoroth? I don't think so.

My personal diagnosis is Power Metal with Harsh vocals. They use entirely power metal song structures and extras, but jjust don't use clean vocals. I can live with people calling em Melodic Death Metal as well.

[MRDuCran]

What V is it?

[eddie_the_great]

Jackson Rhoads EX with a Dimarzio X2N

It's from 1992 or so, I got a good deal on it but I want something a bit more versatile.