Children Of Bodom

[blue3]

Does anyone have the whole video of that? Like all of Trashed & Lost in Helsinski?

[MRDuCran]

Yes, that's where I ripped it from.

[smurfpirate]

do any of you own a esp like alexi if so tell us what its like

[MRDuCran]

I want to get his black and yellow one just because it looks cool and has 2 pickups. But no, I don't have one. Plus, they're pretty dam expensive.

[I'm Charming]

I want to get his black and yellow one just because it looks cool and has 2 pickups. But no, I don't have one. Plus, they're pretty dam expensive.

I'd think a custom guitar like what Alexi plays would be very expensive.

My guitar has two pickups.
EMG esqe but not EMG. Jackson's "own" version.

[smurfpirate]

I hope its not too expensive though the only con i think is the one volume nob if its had like 1 tone it would be sick i saw a white with black pinstipe like his its trick:thumb:

[MRDuCran]

They're over $5000 = £3000.

http://www.bmusic.com.au/prod3996.htm
http://www.bmusic.com.au/prod3309.htm

[Britton]

That video is really funny

thanks man

[MRDuCran]

I knew you'd like it. :)

[CaptainWaits]

I haven't been in this thread for a long time....so in a nutshell, what can someone say about "Are you Dead Yet"? Is it worth getting, which bodom album does it sound most similar to (if any), and anything else I should know if I'm looking to buy it.
Thanks!

[Josh]

i can't really describe what AYDY? is like, but i like it.

also, i did CoB rip off the Nightwish riff from She Is My Sin in Touch like an Angel of Death, or did Nightwish rip off Bodom?

[MRDuCran]

I haven't been in this thread for a long time....so in a nutshell, what can someone say about "Are you Dead Yet"? Is it worth getting, which bodom album does it sound most similar to (if any), and anything else I should know if I'm looking to buy it.
Thanks!

In my opinion it's just as good as the other albums, just in a different way.
It's more "american" or "industrial" as people describe it. It sounds most like Hate Crew Deathroll, i.e Sixpounder and Angels Don't Kill type stuff as it's all in drop C.
You might of heard Trashed, Lost and Strungout which they released last year as a single, well that's on it.

[suspect]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/all49/Children%20of%20Bodom/cobalexi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/all49/Children%20of%20Bodom/cobopeth.jpg

That's my hand:cool:. Pictures are from Gates of Metal this summer.

[blue3]

Nice pictures. What exactly were you pointing at?

[suspect]

I believe it was Janne's solo in Everytime I Die, so naturally my horns were to him.

[Shattered_Future]

i can't really describe what AYDY? is like, but i like it.

also, i did CoB rip off the Nightwish riff from She Is My Sin in Touch like an Angel of Death, or did Nightwish rip off Bodom?

Which riff? I've listened to both pretty extensively, and I've heard no similarities between the two...

If they DID, Nightwish probably ripped off, simply because Wishmaster came out a few years after Something Wild.

[Shadows]

In my opinion it's just as good as the other albums, just in a different way.
It's more "american" or "industrial" as people describe it. It sounds most like Hate Crew Deathroll, i.e Sixpounder and Angels Don't Kill type stuff as it's all in drop C.
You might of heard Trashed, Lost and Strungout which they released last year as a single, well that's on it.
In a word, the album is amazing.

Depsite what many say, I don't see what's American or industrial about it. It's much heavier and more riff-based than before, plus they use keyboards, but they don't play anything that really fits into those two descriptions.

I say buy it. :)

[Squirrel]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo dont buy it, go buy Winds of Creation instead.

[Shadows]

Children of Bodom vs Decapitated? I love Winds of Creation, but that comparison makes no sense. :p

[Squirrel]

Oh it does, right cause see, Decapitated are like Polish and CoB are Finnish right.

And Decapitated like, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CoB

[Shadows]

Meh, I like both.

Polish and Finnish are different countries though. :p

[Josh]

Which riff? I've listened to both pretty extensively, and I've heard no similarities between the two...

If they DID, Nightwish probably ripped off, simply because Wishmaster came out a few years after Something Wild.
in She Is My Sin, from about 13 seconds in. and in Touch Like An Angel Of Death, from about 21 seconds, with vocals over the top for some of it.

[Britton]

I wouldn't say that. Just because they sound alike it doesn't mean either of them ripped it off from the other,

When you think about it there are only so many notes.

[Squirrel]

Meh, I like both.

Polish and Finnish are different countries though. :p

Nationalities* :p

[Shadows]

Nationalities* :p
Of course, you know what I meant.

[Squirrel]

Yer.

Decapitated >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CoB

[Shadows]

That reminds me, I owe Josh a tab of the Blessed intro.

Good song.

[MRDuCran]

Squirrel, I notice the way you come in here to whore other bands...

Last time it was "Death" if I remember correctly?

[Shattered_Future]

He's got a point though...Decapitated IS better than COB, though you can count the similarities between the 2 with both your hands chopped off. :smash:

[Shadows]

Lawl, I much prefer CoB. Decapitated is good but not at the top of my death metal list. They're nothing super-original.

[MRDuCran]

This is where opinions come into play, stop stating who ARE better, there is no best band.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

This is where opinions come into play, stop stating who ARE better, there is no best band.


eh ppl shouldnt do that but im guilty of it myself i guess i think everyone is or has been at one time :(, my cuz was shipped off to prison today shes only 19 thats sad ( sorry random i just found out)

[Shadows]

This is where opinions come into play, stop stating who ARE better, there is no best band.
Music would be a much more peaceful world is people woul remember this. Unfortunately, people always feel the need to build up their music over someone else's, yielding competition and hostility.

I could write a reasearch paper on this topic. I think about it all the time, and it frustrates me.

[MRDuCran]

eh ppl shouldnt do that but im guilty of it myself i guess i think everyone is or has been at one time :(, my cuz was shipped off to prison today shes only 19 thats sad ( sorry random i just found out)

Sorry to hear that babe.

Music would be a much more peaceful world is people woul remember this. Unfortunately, people always feel the need to build up their music over someone else's, yielding competition and hostility.

I could write a reasearch paper on this topic. I think about it all the time, and it frustrates me.

It certainly would be more peaceful. There's so many people on this board that just come into threads about people they dislike and bitch about them which triggers 5 page arguments...so sad, this is exactly why Alexi hates the internet and I don't blame him.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

thanks, i cant change any of the other gifs size and such its really frustrating the only gif i could change and make work was the one i have up now

[AA-12]

I hate to state the facts in this thread, but Decapitated is the greatest death metal band of all time. :p

Anyway, sorry about your cousin I am hated.

[MRDuCran]

thanks, i cant change any of the other gifs size and such its really frustrating the only gif i could change and make work was the one i have up now

That's pretty cool though.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

thanks shes been in so much trouble tho so it really doesnt suprise me any shes not going to be in but maybe 4 months so thats not long but oh well. yeah i like the avatar its cool i think and i like it better than the other one i had up :thumb:

[Shadows]

I hate to state the facts in this thread, but Decapitated is the greatest death metal band of all time. :p
Oh Josh, you amuse me sometimes.

[MRDuCran]

thanks shes been in so much trouble tho so it really doesnt suprise me any shes not going to be in but maybe 4 months so thats not long but oh well. yeah i like the avatar its cool i think and i like it better than the other one i had up :thumb:

Yeah 4 months isn't THAT bad.

And I like that one better too. :)

[Shadows]

I like the other one better. :(

Four moths isn't much by comperison, but it's still a long time to be isolated like that. I'm sorry to hear about that. :(

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

yeh its fine,she hated me so im not to hurt bout it heh but i know i wouldnt want to spen one min. in prison or anything i just want to stay in my room by myself or with a friend oh god why bring that up

[MRDuCran]

lol you can edit stuff out if you want

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

lol i know i just didnt :-P

[MRDuCran]

fair enough

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

yeh............................................... its a shame our convos are gradually getting down to a few words lol, im shocked my post number isnt higher than it is, does everyone in this thread play guitar or what

[Shadows]

I think everyone here does. This is a musician forum after all. :)

[MRDuCran]

Ah, she doesn't. And isn't I Heart SP a bassist? I swear someone in here plays bass...

yeh............................................... its a shame our convos are gradually getting down to a few words lol, im shocked my post number isnt higher than it is, does everyone in this thread play guitar or what
You should post in more threads if you want it to go up quicker. As you don't play an instrument, it'd have to be in the R&M.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

i know but ive already explained myself so yeah running out of things to say and im really extremely bored

[Shadows]

I know she doesn't. I heart plays guitar as well. Josh (Necronomicon) is somewhat of a multi-instrumentalist though.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Ah, she doesn't. And isn't I Heart SP a bassist? I swear someone in here plays bass...


You should post in more threads if you want it to go up quicker. As you don't play an instrument, it'd have to be in the R&M.

I know but there doesnt seem to be threads on stuff i like or listent o and when there is they die so this thread is where i live i guess i like it and its still going really good and the ppl here arent well umm mean lol

[MRDuCran]

Yer I have nothing to say so I'm just going to say....Ok.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

erm

[Shadows]

erm
Woah, looks like we have a new conversation topic!

/lawl :)

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Woah, looks like we have a new conversation topic!

/lawl :)


Yeah i know! This is better than talking about work and us being weird!! :chug: when am i gonna see my mayin

[MRDuCran]

Whaa?

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

what my mayin?

[Shadows]

Whaa?
Hahahah, you're so out of the loop!

I <3 this thread, even if it isn't about CoB anymore.

[MRDuCran]

lol i dnt know what shes talking about

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

lol well i dont have a mayin really i just made it up and im talking to myself if u hear muttering its me most deff. HEY MRDUCRAN WAVE WAVE WAVE

[Shadows]

What's a mayin?

You lost me. :(

[MRDuCran]

A man, boyfriend, companion, soulmate etc, amirite?

Hello Amanda...

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

its man but in southern well in a deep southern accent its kinda funny i guess i was jking tho ehem um yeh Mitch

[Shadows]

Oh, okay, hahaha.

I don't know southern talk. I'm so northern. :(

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Oh, okay, hahaha.

I don't know southern talk. I'm so northern. :(


yeh them ther people theay luv ther der meat and fiddle plaiyin

[MRDuCran]

Wellllllllllllll I'm going to bed.

[IheartSP]

I don't play bass I don't know where you got that from...

If I had some sort of sufficient software I'd record some Bodom covers for you guys.

[Forlorn Hope]

Oh, okay, hahaha.

I don't know southern talk. I'm so northern. :(
:lol:I think I live in the only town in the state of Ohio where 80% of the people are rednecks. For some reason southern accents really irritate me...(sigh)

[MRDuCran]

That'd be cool, I love hearing other peoples versions of songs.

[blue3]

yeh them ther people theay luv ther der meat and fiddle plaiyinuh.. Nice conversations guys.

I can play bass, I mostly play guitar though.

[I'm Charming]

Is it my computer or is MX down?

What's the deal?

[supra_speed]

I just started listening to CoB.. and theyre ****ing amazing.. I love Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood! \m/

[I'm Charming]

I just started listening to CoB.. and theyre ****ing amazing.. I love Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood! \m/

Check out the follow the reaper album. It's amazing, they all are.

I can't stand that one song though. LBRRH

[I'm Charming]

Sorry to double post.

I just heard oops I did it again cover by CoB. I'm laughing reallllly hard. They made that song withstandible, that means something. lawl.

[MRDuCran]

You're sorry to double post but there's an edit button at the bottom of every post...

[I'm Charming]

You're sorry to double post but there's an edit button at the bottom of every post...

I know that. I use it when I need to. I felt that required a seperate post as it was VERY important.

This message has been edited:

Edit: :)

[Taste_My_Scythe]

hey all. havent been around much on this forum and thread for which i apologize.
went to the bodom show in tampa with powerchord_rock (john) and we had a kickass time. they were amazing and we were right up at the barrier...so...it was ****ing rad. both alexi and roope touched my hand and now i'm blessed. ;)
am at the hospital for **** and dont know when they're going to let me leave. i wanted to tell the guys on bodom after midnight, but this computer will not allow me to get into my yahoo mail account and get the link (which beleive it or not i still havent memorized). just wanted to let ben, danny, paul, josh and mike that i haven't deserted you guys, but i havent been able to use a computer until now and im not sure if theyll let me use it again.
i apologize for the bad typing. im typing with my left hand because my right is splinted and stuck with an IV.
anywho...just wanted to hopefully talk to someone and let you all know that i'm not dead....yet... ;)
-tms

[Shred Danson]

hey all. havent been around much on this forum and thread for which i apologize.
went to the bodom show in tampa with powerchord_rock (john) and we had a kickass time. they were amazing and we were right up at the barrier...so...it was ****ing rad. both alexi and roope touched my hand and now i'm blessed. ;)
am at the hospital for **** and dont know when they're going to let me leave. i wanted to tell the guys on bodom after midnight, but this computer will not allow me to get into my yahoo mail account and get the link (which beleive it or not i still havent memorized). just wanted to let ben, danny, paul, josh and mike that i haven't deserted you guys, but i havent been able to use a computer until now and im not sure if theyll let me use it again.
i apologize for the bad typing. im typing with my left hand because my right is splinted and stuck with an IV.
anywho...just wanted to hopefully talk to someone and let you all know that i'm not dead....yet... ;)
-tms

Wow, get well soon Leah.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

thanks much, Trev. howve you been?

[Shred Danson]

thanks much, Trev. howve you been?

Purty damn good. Band's got a new song up on myspace and all that fun stuff...the guy that did Old Man's Child did our logo! That's insane! ...yeah...lots of stuff happening :lol:

EDIT: If you want to check it all out...www.myspace.com/withoutatracerocks for teh moozak, www.myspace.com/crimsongarnet for teh logoness :D :p

[Squirrel]

Lawl, I much prefer CoB. Decapitated is good but not at the top of my death metal list. They're nothing super-original.

Erm .. well, see the thing is, they are.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

**** off smart ***

[Shred Danson]

**** off smart ***

Chill, chill, it's all good, everyone has their opinions...

:-/

[Squirrel]

**** off smart ***

Shut the hell up.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

oh u really hurt my feelings like i would shut up just cuz u told me to i think i will cry now

[Shred Danson]

Stop the flaming, Jesus Christ, people.

[Squirrel]

oh u really hurt my feelings like i would shut up just cuz u told me to i think i will cry now

liek yer lawl yer n rite u r ghey lol rite

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

haha your so funny

[Shred Danson]

Last I checked, this was a children of bodom thread, not the Pit or the Guitar forums. :rolleyes:

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

i know sorry, im looking at guitars online and i dont have any clue as to what im doing at all i was looking at the alexi laiho guitars there cool but expensive,looking at the starter packs atm tho still dont know what im doing heh

[Shred Danson]

i know sorry, im looking at guitars online and i dont have any clue as to what im doing at all i was looking at the alexi laiho guitars there cool but expensive,looking at the starter packs atm tho still dont know what im doing heh

The Jackson Randy Rhoad V's are a lot cheaper :p

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

ooooh coool thanks,im guessing that it is good?

[MRDuCran]

If you wanna start guitar, just get a $100 starter pack, you won't need a $700 Jackson just yet.

[repcak]

thats true.. i started with an ibanez gsa60 (200€) and a marshall 15mg cdr serie (250€)

you don't need more

[MRDuCran]

I still have the same amp after 4 years. :eek: It's the same size as a sofa pillow.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I know ive been looking around thanks hope i can get a good one that doesnt look goofey lol

[MRDuCran]

I thought you couldn't afford it...?

[King_Of_Terrors]

How much are Laiho's guitars?

[MRDuCran]

In american money, over $5000.

[Shattered_Future]

Not worth it either...only single pickups.

If you're just starting guitar, your best bet would be with a Squier Affinity Fat Strat pack. Comes with everything you need, and the guitar isn't utter crap like other starter packs (cough Ibanez cough).

Plus, the guitar will last you a while...I still play my Squier a lot, even after buying a $1400 Les Paul.

[Shadows Within]

go with the jackson starter pack or the ibanez grx20 starter pack.

[MRDuCran]

Although Alexi only uses one pickup, he has one of my favourite tones. Especially when he palm mutes high notes, just sounds so dry and raw, I love it.

[I'm Charming]

I have a Jackson S30 and 30 watt marshall amp. I love both.
30 watts is all you need for playing in your room or garage. It's plenty loud.

[Poofy 666]

I have a Jackson Warrior and a Line 6 Spider II amp :)

[Shadows]

Not worth it either...only single pickups.
I most definitely agree. His Jacksons were amazing huitars, but his ESPs look like a gigantic waste of money. $5000 for a single passive pickup? :(

I <3 my Jackson. :)

[MRDuCran]

http://www.endlesswar.net/SOB/site.php?lang=en

:eek: Fukk me in the eye, I so want this DVD. I might buy it off Ebay like, now.

Dam Japanese buttsuckers, they get better stuff than us. :angry:

[Shadows]

Woah, that is definitely something I need.

[MRDuCran]

Did you read about Alexi and Jannes Guitar and Keyboard DVD? WTF? Are they teasing us.....NOWWWWW

[repcak]

http://www.endlesswar.net/SOB/site.php?lang=en

:eek: Fukk me in the eye, I so want this DVD. I might buy it off Ebay like, now.

Dam Japanese buttsuckers, they get better stuff than us. :angry:
lol, i just finished donwloading it from emule... its 500mb big and its 28min long... its really nice :thumb:

edit: oh ****... its the third time, alexi is doing it for young guitar... DAMN Japanese

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

i want that he could teach me how to plaiy!!and i could have a good show as well

[MRDuCran]

lol, i just finished donwloading it from emule... its 500mb big and its 28min long... its really nice :thumb:

edit: oh ****... its the third time, alexi is doing it for young guitar... DAMN Japanese

Are you sure it's the new one?

And yeah, what the hell is EMule all about, I have no idea what a server list is or any of those frikken numbers it asks for. :upset:

[I'm Charming]

Are you sure it's the new one?

And yeah, what the hell is EMule all about, I have no idea what a server list is or any of those frikken numbers it asks for. :upset:

Torrents>all

[repcak]

eMule is slow, but you will get a file 100% - it doesn't matter how big it is.. emule is great! download emule, update the server list... connect to a server and you can start - its that easy!

no, its not the new Young Guitar video :upset: its an old one, where he was playing a lot of licks from "Hate crew deathroll" -> sixpounder and even the solo to needled 24/7

[MRDuCran]

I just have no idea about what numbers to type in, in fact, I don't even know what a server is...

That sucks about it not being the new one but still, I'd wanna see it. I'll probably end up ordering them off Ebay soon enough, I should be ordering the new one in a few days.


ALSO

For anyone whos bothered about the AMAZINGLY high price of Alexi's signature guitars, you can get them for the 3rd of the price if you just look for an "ESP SV Standard". Everything's the same apart from the neck inlays and they come with 2 pickups, EMG 81's.

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

I just have no idea about what numbers to type in, in fact, I don't even know what a server is...

That sucks about it not being the new one but still, I'd wanna see it. I'll probably end up ordering them off Ebay soon enough, I should be ordering the new one in a few days.


ALSO

For anyone whos bothered about the AMAZINGLY high price of Alexi's signature guitars, you can get them for the 3rd of the price if you just look for an "ESP SV Standard". Everything's the same apart from the neck inlays and they come with 2 pickups, EMG 81's.


There still expensive tho but yeh not as expensive hey if i had the money i would most deff. buy one man :thumb:

[Shattered_Future]

ESPs have really bad sound quality though...I think so, anyways.

I'd say, if you're really serious about buying a guitar, go with either a Fender or a Gibson. It may cost significantly more, but you can get a significantly better guitar that you can use for a whole bunch of different styles of music.

[Shadows]

Come now, Fenders and Gibsons aren't for metal.

Gibsons may work, but they still can't hold a candle to guitars built for metal, unless you put some appropriate pickups in there.

[Shattered_Future]

Are you joking? Gibsons can be great for metal...plus, you can play ANY type of music on them that requires a guitar. You name it.

Fenders aren't for metal...psh. Ever heard of Iron Maiden?

[Shadows]

Maiden = not a good example. :lol:

They're versatile, but still not as good as guitars built specifically for metal. I've heard Gibsons (low level LPs and really expensive ones) played with metal settings and it wasn't the greatest sound by any means.

Plus I find Gibsons to be the most uncomfortable thing in the world.

[MRDuCran]

Yer, single coils can't compare to humbuckers for metal simply because of the nature of them.

[Toaster]

I hate Fender with a passion. Gibson I don't mind. They're not metal, but at least they aren't nearly as witheringly overrated as any Fender guitars. The Stratocaster.. what a terrible, unholy instrument. I just shudder with intense loathing when I hear the sound of one.

:D

[repcak]

Gibson can be used for metal, but they are overpriced

my favourite guitars are Jackson - i just love them

[Toaster]

ESP is where it's at, for sure. Sound great, play great, comfortable as anything. Plus most of them look awesome.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I like my BC Rich.

Ultimately I want to get a Jackson of some sort. ESP can suck my balls.

[Shadows]

I hate Fenders. I don't think they're very good even if you're using them for the sort of music they're supposedly good for.

But I love Jacksons. Jackson has only been going downhill ever since Fender took over, but luckily they're still some of the best guitars you can buy for metal.

[repcak]

i once hold a fender in my hands... after 5seconds i put it back again... it was the first and the last time i touched a fender... they are ugly

[Jackson] they're still some of the best guitars you can buy for metal.

:thumb:

[Scoot]

"This is horrible. I bought this cd after hearing that they had a good guitar player, but i was dissapointed. The music is horrible, and the guitar player was just a let down. I've been playing guitar for a while, and this stuff is not even difficult to play, he just plays sweep arpeggios and does 16th note scale runs at 200+ bpm, any guitarist who's been playing for at least a year can play this stuff, if you want some good technical guitar work try nickelback. Alexi Laiho sucks just as bad as his idol steve vai."

:lol: This guy must have been beaten at birth.

[Shadows]

The Nickelback reference makes it obvious that it was a joke.

Still stupid either way.

[King_Of_Terrors]

HAHA! Noice. Yeah you got to listen to those REAL guitar players like the guy from Nickelback. That's real metal right there.

[MRDuCran]

Holy **** that's pretty funny.

[blue3]

Haha.. nickelback.

[The Sandman]

Hahah to the review on Amazon.

Ibanez > You

[ValeOfShadows]

I've heard Tokyo Warhearts now and this band kick *** live.

[I'm Charming]

:lol: This guy must have been beaten at birth.


That sure would explain that. Maybe his mother dressed him up funny and dropped him a few times too.

You have to allow for all possibilities!

[The Sandman]

Tokyo Warhearts is pretty good. I've seen a video of them playing Hate Me! live and honestly I thought it sounded pretty ****ty. Maybe it was just the quality of the recording because people say they're fairly good live.

A while ago I downloaded some interview with Alexi Laiho off LimeWire but when I finally got it it was all in Finnish :rolleyes:

[Shattered_Future]

Hahah to the review on Amazon.

Ibanez > You

GOD no. What are you smoking? :eek:

If you mod a Fender, it gets a sweet metal tone...either that, or you have to buy one with a humbucker in the bridge (which is what mine has). Great downtuned tone (D standard or lower).

[Apocalypticon]

Jacksons and Bc Richs are the best metal guitars out there.

[The Sandman]

I, personally, don't like Fender's all that much. Maybe it's just because I believe they're over-rated and everyone is just like "z0mg u hv liek a Fendre ur pr0". I also think they're kind of over-priced but hey, it's all opinion.

[Shattered_Future]

Yea, that is one disadvantage with having a Fender (even though I wouldn't know...stupid cheap Chinese Squier. :angry:)

I'm interested though...how do you think they're overrated?

[Shadows]

I'm going to kill myself.

[blue3]

Have fun with that.

[The Sandman]

When I first started guitar I was under the impression that the greatest guitar in the world was a Stratocaster. I'm using my own experience and presuming that other people have/had similiar views which maybe I shouldn't be. They are pretty much what most people will think of when they hear the word 'guitar'. I guess the Strat shape did end up more or less being the template for most of the guitars on the market.

I admit that I'm slightly biased though. I went from a Squier Strat which would probably be better suited to starting fires than for playing music to an Ibanez RG1570. Whenever I muck around on my Squier and then go on to play my Ibanez it just feels so much better.

I really should try some of the more up-market Fenders though. I really shouldn't be judging Fenders on the experience I've had with Squier's :rolleyes:

[Toaster]

Yea, that is one disadvantage with having a Fender (even though I wouldn't know...stupid cheap Chinese Squier. :angry:)

I'm interested though...how do you think they're overrated?

Because everyone in the entire guitar-playing world seems to love them for no apparent reason. If you try to bring up the insane amount of hum and feedback, they tell you to "get a Fat Strat (w/ humbuckers)". Why not get a guitar that was made to be used with humbuckers instead? If you try to bring up the terrible rib-snapping discomfort of the Telecaster, they tell you "it's a working-man's guitar".

Fender reportedly has the "best quality", "best sound" and "best playability", and being the proud owner of a large Fender amp and a Strat, I have to say that it's just not true. The amp is just terrible, and I had to replace the bridge of the Strat within a year of buying it.

The last thing I have against Fender is the myth that "every good guitar player played a Fender, including the best guitar player of all time, Jimi Hendrix!!!!" I don't think I need to elaborate.

In other news, COB just passed by my town. :( Damn sold-out small theatres.

[The Sandman]

Toaster's argument > mine.

Something slightly more relevant to the thread...is their new album worth getting? From what I've heard it's meant to be crap...

[Shadows]

Yes, it's worth getting. It's amazing.

[IheartSP]

Depends how picky you are, if you don't like new american sounding metal, you'll hate it. It's nowhere near as well written or sophisticated as the other albums have been, your gonna have to rely more on catchiness and hooks to enjoy this one.

[I'm Charming]

I play a Jackson S30, floyd rose floating tremelo. Sweet guitar, great for metal.

I'm very picky about the picks I will play with, I like .81

Anyone else this picky about pick selection?

[Shadows]

I don't really care about picks. I've come to realize that I do enjoy playing with picks that have some sort of grip on them instead of purely glossed picks.

[The Sandman]

I use Jazz III's.

I'm not a fan of thin picks, I like thicker ones...in the area of 1.0mm. They just feel better to me. I don't like the stubby (I think that's what they're called) ones though...they're like 2.0mm and it feels like you're playing with a...I don't know...something fat.

[Shadows]

I've never experimented with pick gauge, but I do know for sure that I prefer thick picks to thin ones.

The same goes for me and strings. I can't stand palying with anything lighter than .11's.

[The Sandman]

Hahah...we seem to be quite opposite.

I use thick picks but I have .9's on my guitar.

I really should change to at least .10's.

[Shred Danson]

b en i m postin, hope yer happy.

[Shadows]

Trev, you made my day. :D

I hate light strings. It feels so sloppy to play with them, especially while downtuned.

[The Sandman]

Locking nuts don't like down tuning :(

[Shadows]

I know how that is. :( The floating bridge only makes it harder.

EDIT: I now have exactly twice as many posts in this thread as the guy behind me. :eek:

[Shred Danson]

hehehhsa he said lcking nutsss!

[The Sandman]

They're both a blessing and a curse.

I think sometime soon, as in when I get enough money, I might buy a Jackson RR3 or something similiar.

I was thinking that I might have the Jackson in D and my Ibanez in E. Which would allow me to play CoB without having to move everything down 1 step.

[Shadows]

I also want to get myself an RR. I was thinking of a 3, but preferrably a 5.

It would also help to have something that works for music that isn't metal, but I'm too metal for that!

Tuning is a huge pain in the *** for me. With two guitars, I wouldn't need to constantly tune and change strings.

[The Sandman]

My Ibanez doesn't sound thaaat bad on clean songs.

It's kind of funny...I used to be in a kind of school jazz band and I'd be playing my Ibanez among all the trumpets and saxaphones. I felt a little out of place but **** it. If any of the jazz people give me crap I'll stab them with the end of my guitar.

That's another upside of Ibanez/Jackson guitars. The headstocks and conveniently pointy.

[Shadows]

That's right. Damn those non-violent Fender heads. :mad:

My Jackson gets pretty good cleans when I put on new strings and have it tuned perfectly. But when it's been used for a while and is set for some metal song, it gets pretty bad.

[The Sandman]

That's one thing that makes Gibson and Fender guitar's non-metal in my opinion. If you need to take care of someone it's all the more difficult when you have a club on the end of your guitar.

If only Dimebag played Jackson. That guy that jumped up would have got raped before he could pull the trigger..

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I use thinner picks, around .70mm.

[Shred Danson]

I use thinner picks, around .70mm.

I usually use medium and nylon picks...good for sweeping.

[MRDuCran]

ha i can get my guitar with floyd in e, an octave lower in less that a minute and the strings arent even that loose

[Shadows]

I can do that too, but only because I'm so used to playing with that stuff by now.

[MRDuCran]

I couldn't believe it, everyone in the Guitar forum moaning about how they can't do drop D and stuff, I laugh in their face, I put it in D standard in under 2 mins for the first time ever, then laughed again coz they suck at guitar.

[I'm Charming]

I couldn't believe it, everyone in the Guitar forum moaning about how they can't do drop D and stuff, I laugh in their face, I put it in D standard in under 2 mins for the first time ever, then laughed again coz they suck at guitar.

I have floyd rose and floating bridge and I can downtune to Drop D no problem.

It takes a couple times tuning to get used to though.

Then you love it.

[MRDuCran]

Indeed, I'm always dropping to drop C to play Hatecrew Deathroll/Are You Dead Yet material, D standard for Follow the Reaper/Hatebreeder material and E standard to practise.

[I'm Charming]

Indeed, I'm always dropping to drop C to play Hatecrew Deathroll/Are You Dead Yet material, D standard for Follow the Reaper/Hatebreeder material and E standard to practise.

If my tuner doesn't have C on it. What would be the easist way to drop down to CGCFAD?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I don't really care about picks. I've come to realize that I do enjoy playing with picks that have some sort of grip on them instead of purely glossed picks.


Have you tried the Dunlop Gator Grip picks? They are quite awesome.

And for picks, I will not use any pick under 1.0 mm but I prefer using 2.0 mm picks.
all my friends use these thin as hell picks and I don't see how they can use such annoying things. /random fact : the guys from KSE play with 3.0 mm picks which are extremely think feeling heh

And if you do alot of playing sitting down, a RR Jackson is not a way to go. They are very annoying to play while sitting down, even in the classical position.

Man Made God : Does you Jackson have active EMG's in it?

I want a second guitar, so I can have alternate tuning when ever I need it with out tuning it all the time with different gauge strings and such. /drools over the Schecter Hellraiser in see-through black cherry finish

/currently in standard B with 10 guage strings on my schecter heh

[I'm Charming]

Oh god. I just was on amazon and saw this review of CoB's AYDY.

Here, have a laugh.


CoB sounding like mallcore? I think this idiot spent to much time in hot topic... or something.


0 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
This is not Children of Bodom!!!!, December 5, 2005
Reviewer: critico constructivo (PR) - See all my reviews
Is hard to say this: this album is boring, uninspirational and their sound is like another mallcore band, is hard but is true. Please, make yourself a favor and stay away of this and try: Mors Principium Est, Kalmah, Norther and Skyfire for great melodic death metal with no complaints. You thank's me later!!!

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

0 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
This is not Children of Bodom!!!!, December 5, 2005
Reviewer: critico constructivo (PR) - See all my reviews
Is hard to say this: this album is boring, uninspirational and their sound is like another mallcore band, is hard but is true. Please, make yourself a favor and stay away of this and try: Mors Principium Est, Kalmah, Norther and Skyfire for great melodic death metal with no complaints. You thank's me later!!!


I find it funnier that he called Kalmah, Norther and Skyfire melodic death...

And he is right about the album minus the mallcore part, as there is no such thing as the term mallcore for a genre.

[MRDuCran]

If my tuner doesn't have C on it. What would be the easist way to drop down to CGCFAD?

No C on a tuner....!!!

Well,

Hold the 2nd fret and tune THAT to D

or

Hold the 4th fret and tune THAT to E:

4th fret = E
3rd fret = D#
2nd fret = D
1st fret = C#
0pen = C

Geddit?

Then tune open A string to the same pitch as the low E string, 7th fret.

Then tune the rest of the guitar as normal (5th fret method).

[I'm Charming]

I find it funnier that he called Kalmah, Norther and Skyfire melodic death...

And he is right about the album minus the mallcore part, as there is no such thing as the term mallcore for a genre.

Mallcore are the "badass's" who walk around dressed in their CoF shirts and trying to look cool for five hours....

Aren't those power metal?
AYDY is good but not their best.

[I'm Charming]

No C on a tuner....!!!

Well,

Hold the 2nd fret and tune THAT to D

or

Hold the 4th fret and tune THAT to E:

4th fret = E
3rd fret = D#
2nd fret = D
1st fret = C#
0pen = C

Geddit?


Yes sir.

[MRDuCran]

Also, if you have powertab or guitar pro, you can use that. On the guitar tuning section, it gives you the option to play the note.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Mallcore are the "badass's" who walk around dressed in their CoF shirts and trying to look cool for five hours....

Aren't those power metal?
AYDY is good but not their best.


I know what mallcore is supposed to mean, but it is not a genre.

Using mallcore as an insult or as a genre is absurd and is beyond stupid. There are more people at the mall then just those wanna-be "goths" people, jesus.

And yes, those bands are considered power metal with harsh vocals. And AYDY is not good, it is horrible.

[Shadows]

I get very discouraged at all the disbelief towards the new album. The way I percieve it, most people dislike the album because they were expecting more power metal, and nothing new. This album was a very drastic change in the band's sound, so naturally people will be shocked and unprepared. But the immediate disregard of a non-power metal Children of Bodom seems like a discredit to the band. People dub the new album "uninspired" and "simple". To me, this could not be farther from the truth. After so many years of making their legendary power metal, the band felt it was time to break out of the boundaries that critics had put around them and make something new and innovative. No band has ever done anything remotely like Are You Dead Yet, least of all the American "metalcore" bands that I hear them compared to every once in a great while. Aside from the new sense of creativity put forth, the album is not the least bit simplistic in the music. I often lay and just listen to this through headphones - it's amazing what you can pick up from music when you're up close and without distraction, especially music as multi-dimensional as this. Listening to the layering of the guitar riffs and the keyboard arrangements, I can honestly say that this is the most technical album they've ever made. I'm sure many disagree simply because of the lack of neoclassical lead guitar that Alexi is famous for, but they're merely talking themselves out of a huge treat. As a guitarist, I enjoy the new album just as much, and in many ways more than their older records.
Lead guitar is intertwined with heavier riffing throughout in such a way that the technicality of it is often subtle, yet defined. In songs like the title track, Bastards of Bodom, or We're Not Gonna Fall I was not only impressed at the talent involved in the palying, but also the level of maturity that the band has adapted to in playing lower, heavier music. Nothing has been dumbed down. The instruments are playing things they haven't even considered for over a decade, and as a result, they've come up with music that nobody ever thought would come from this band, I say they deserve every ounce of credit they get for this record. If they become more popular than ever, then it's good to see that creative and talented bands are finally getting recognition for what they do. I would have no problem whatsoever watching this band, who happens to be my favorite, go further down this route and experiment even more. Some bands seem worn out after they do their thing and then try in vain to do something new, but with the newest album, it seems that CoB is making a fresh start for themselves.

Wow, that was long.

No C on a tuner....!!!
Not every tuner is chromatic. My first tuner only had the 6 open notes.

[MRDuCran]

Not every tuner is chromatic. My first tuner only had the 6 open notes.
Good point, so did mine.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

/big thing on AYDY



I find the album to be lacking any instance of being memorable or worth being listened to over and over. I have nothing against bands changing their sound in little steps or in giant steps, but they did not pull off the change in sound on this album. Maybe later albums will prove their change in sound to be successful, but not this one.

And I personally enjoy bands who change over time, but that is if they do it correctly.

And quite frankly, I could care less about how technical a band or an album is. The ability to have solid song writing is what I look for, and that is where they fall short on this album, by a long shot.

And to put it short, just because it is new/original/different/creative doesn't mean it is always good.

[Shadows]

I can understand that. People are of course entitled to opinions, and no two people will percieve the album the same way. Most of the negative opinions I read about seem to embody the "it's not power metal, it's not CoB" philosophy, and I think that's a terrible methodology to follow. I can't account for everyone who hears it, but I'm disappointed nonetheless that so many turn their back on it, even if it is for perfectly valid reasons.

Creativity and technicality don't make an album, but they sure help. When a band tries to do the same thing for their entire career, they become worthless over time. I'd much rather have them progress from Something Wild to Are You Dead Yet then to have them release Follow the Reaper for another ten years, but I've come to realize that many just aren't as open to such an extreme change.

[I'm Charming]

It really took a while to grow on me. I hated AYDY with a passion at first. After listening to it a few times, I began to find songs I really liked. The rest grew on me. The only songs I don't like on AYDY are, In Your Face and Next In Line.
They are bland and boring.

To comment towards what shadows said,

If you listen as to how each albums differers, you will see each album got heavier each time.

Something wild is very raw. Hatebreeder had extensive melodies but was heavier.
Follow the reaper is where what I'm talking about really shows,
It's heavy, the hardest stuff to date at that point. It retains it's sense of melody and power metal.
Songs like, Everytime I die and Follow The reaper really show the progression towards a heavier sound. Next comes,Hate Crew Deathroll,
Songs like Bodom Beach Terror and Sixpounder show a further turn towards a heavier sound.
Then follows AYDY.
People shouldn't act shocked and cry foul. If you listen to all their albums and songs, they clearly have built towards a heavier sound.

[PsychoticFlubber]

It really took a while to grow on me. I hated AYDY with a passion at first. After listening to it a few times, I began to find songs I really liked. The rest grew on me. The only songs I don't like on AYDY are, In Your Face and Next In Line.
They are bland and boring.

To comment towards what shadows said,

If you listen as to how each albums differers, you will see each album got heavier each time.

Something wild is very raw. Hatebreeder had extensive melodies but was heavier.
Follow the reaper is where what I'm talking about really shows,
It's heavy, the hardest stuff to date at that point. It retains it's sense of melody and power metal.
Songs like, Everytime I die and Follow The reaper really show the progression towards a heavier sound. Next comes,Hate Crew Deathroll,
Songs like Bodom Beach Terror and Sixpounder show a further turn towards a heavier sound.
Then follows AYDY.
People shouldn't act shocked and cry foul. If you listen to all their albums and songs, they clearly have built towards a heavier sound.

Yeah, that's true. It is obvious. But I am going to have to say everyone who does not like their new album shut just quit complaining, because it does no good. I don't like their new album as much as the old stuff, but guess what guys, IT IS STILL MUSIC! I am sorry if anyone can't accept the fact that it is Bodom, but please accept the fact that it is music. If you like it or not. I do like it, but I don't bother comparing it to the other Bodom records. Even their new cd is better than most of the other bands out there, so be greatful.

[IheartSP]

I'm somewhere inbetween Bobo and ShadowsFallen.

Now everything I could say or know about the album aside, I listen to the other albums equally about 10x more than AYDY. I can say what I want, but the facts show there I obviously don't prefer it. Compared to the others do I think it is a good album? Honestly no I don't. If I did, it would have equal play time to the others, so as far as my opinion goes I think the facts really tell it. As far as technicality, the solos are as hard as they ever were, they have always had pretty tough solos, they've never made them any easier or harder. The leads, not nearly as tough as some Hatebreeder stuff, try playing the chorus lead to Downfall and you'll have your hands in a knot, but something like Bastards of Bodom won't be nearly as challenging, although still pretty up there. The riffs they had were never challenging, and if anything are more technical than before, but they definately go towards a heavier sound. The thing is, their old stuff was original. The whole heavy riffing thing has been done by countless American bands, and a lot of Bodoms riffs are pretty bland cliches *coughwerenotgonnafallcough*. The blend of Black and Power metal in the earlier albums is really what I think made them so great, so you can't quite disregard the genre change like some of you do. The small black metal influence that had in the drums and vocals is gone, and the large power metal influence they had in the guitars and keyboards had been diminished to almost nothing. Would I really consider AYDY to be Bodom? I don't think so. If you asked someone who'd never heard the band before to listen to Warheart and then In Your Face my guess is the majority wouldn't say it's the same band. I think that is pretty good evidence right there that the style change is drastic enough to completely excuse the "AYDY haters". Personally I think the band devolved, not evolved. AYDY is 75% American Metal, and I think dedicated fans to Bodom and to Power Metal will all tell you European Metal >>>>>> American Metal. And although the songs are equally as complicated to play as the old stuff, writing them would be a signifigant amount easier. The riffing style in the new album as Bobo said is bland for the most part, and a lot of it is overused C power chords and slight ripoffs of new American metal bands. To my ears which I would consider as far as metal goes, "european ears", the riffing on the new album is just boring and seems to go out of it's way to be heavy. The attitude that the music gives off, we may not realize, has been their from the start. Power Metal in music Bodom may have been, but the lyrics with the exception of possibly Warheart and Deadnight Warrior, were very closely related to Punk. The music now I say completely fits the lyrics and has that "in your face" (no pun intended) attitude. I think this is kind of what Bodom has been going for all along, and as ManMadeGod had said, they have only been getting heavier as they go along. I honestly think the first 3 albums were a fluke, and Alexi was going through some kind of phase. The new stuff is where his heart is, and it's almost like a girl leading you on, because now we have this old Bodom that a lot of us love and cherish but we realized that's not where they were actually planning on going. In conclusion, you can say what you want about AYDY, but I think that each side has a full right to their opinion. The haters have a completely valid reason to hate, and you can not pass off their love for the old genre. The people who don't hate it also have full reason to not hate it because it does give off the message and attitude Bodom originally intended for, and of course the exagerations that it is just "metalcore" are not true, although it is in that direction it is nowhere near the degree of metalcore, just in the realm of current American Metal.

If I cared as much about school as I did about Bodom I'd probably be writing better papers...

[IheartSP]

I just notiiced that the solo in Concrete Malformation by Stone sounds so similar to the solo in Wrath Within.

[Shadows]

Alexi is a huge Stone fan..

[MRDuCran]

I learnt the interlude part of Wrath Within a few days ago, so cool.

[IheartSP]

Alexi is a huge Stone fan..
Just pointing it out if anyone was curious

[Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]

Just pointing it out if anyone was curious


I was curious and very intregued :p but tbh i really didnt know that dk why i didnt :confused: and omg im so envious january is comeing up and i know ppl who are going to cob concerts in january :(

[Scoot]

To all those who whine: AYDY is not Hatebreeder!

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

To all those who whine: AYDY is not Hatebreeder!


Thanks for point out the ****ing obvious here **** wit.

[Britton]

Thanks for point out the ****ing obvious here **** wit.


That made me laugh so hard

[I'm Charming]

That made me laugh so hard

I lol'd also.

[Scoot]

Thanks for point out the ****ing obvious here **** wit.

I assume you understand what I mean.

[dest. Chaos]

To all those who whine: AYDY is not Hatebreeder!
whaaaaaat? are you sure?

[Shadows]

This is one saaaaaaaad conversation.

[AA-12]

Thanks for point out the ****ing obvious here **** wit.
Even though we have our disagreements, I love you for posts like this.

[EdBanger]

These guys are seriously awesome,
I dont know what it is but they just strike as god damn awesome.

[Shattered_Future]

Thanks for point out the ****ing obvious here **** wit.

*slow clap*

Bravo, Bobo. :thumb:

[IheartSP]

Purely out of boredom I decided to record the solo in Burning Angel by Arch Enemy and Eruption by EVH.

[MRDuCran]

Uploads?

[IheartSP]

http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q85M4Y4F749T0HNCGZ037AT99

That is Arch Enemy - Burning Angel. It's got a few mistakes and the backing track is guitar pro 5.

http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37MJN0OO8OUYI1ODE76QYD4JAK

Theres Eruption by EVH. It's pretty dumb lol I barely even learnt the song cause it's all wank anyway, so don't have very high expectations.

[MRDuCran]

Not bad.

[IheartSP]

thanks, you can be more criticizing if you want lol

[MRDuCran]

Erm, well I think the main thing is the faster parts are a bit sloppy so just work on that or something. I haven't heard the AE solo before and I despise Eruption so I don't know them too well. :p

[IheartSP]

lol yeah I don't like Eruption much either, not my kind of shred at all, I don't really do well with legato.

[MRDuCran]

You should record some Bodom.

[IheartSP]

I'm going to practice the Silent Night, Bodom Night solo and post that this week

[MRDuCran]

Noooooooooooooooooooo not that song. It just as good as the others but DAMMM is it overplayed/overmentioned. :upset:

Warheart, Towards Dead End, Children of Bodom, Downfall, Lake Bodom, Chokehold, Black Widow would satisfy me more at least.

Top 5 whored songs:

1. SIlent Night, Bodom Night
2. Bed of Razors
3. Needled 24/7
4. Hate Me
5. Kissing the Shadows.

I look at stuff like this and try to avoid doing what other people do because I like to be different.

But anyway, I look forward to hearing it, don't listen what I just said...

[IheartSP]

Well I happen to know it already...

[MRDuCran]

Fair enough.

[Shadows]

I'd rather play what I like and not what other people find obscure.

I should learn some CoB songs, but they're not high on my priority list.

Actually, since the topic came up and I've got time off from school, I feel like re-learning Kissing the Shadows. That song is so fun to play.

[MRDuCran]

Oh, Kissing the Shadows is another overrated song IMO just because of the sweep picking in the solo. I don't think the actual song comes close to being one of their best, but I'm the only person that thinks that so whatever.

[Shadows]

Even without the insanity of the solos I would still think it's one of their best.

But to balance it out, I'm one of the few who really really loves Something Wild. :(

[MRDuCran]

Yeah I guess you are. I listened to some of the songs on there and you can really notice the difference in Alexi's playing over the years. Plus I wasn't digging the songs too much either. Except Lake Bodom, I love that one.

[Shadows]

I love all of them. The only single moment I dislike on that album is the opening punk riff to The Nail. Other then that, it's my favorite album along with Follow the Reaper.

[MRDuCran]

I don't think I can really comment accurately because I haven't listened to them all properly like I have done with Hatebreeder and Hate Crew Deathroll but I will do when I get it, whenever that is...


ALSO


I've seen a live video of CoB playing Downfall live in Tuska 2004 and apparantly it's avaliable on DVD with a whole bunch of other songs, anyone know where to purchase it? OR the In Your Face DVD single??

AND

I just downloaded the Deadnight Warrior video for the first time ever, Alexi has a goatee in it...cool.

[The Sandman]

I can't seem to find any Children of Bodom dvd's. Maybe I should try just buying them online.

I really should learn some more Bodom songs. Or at least solos. I usually just have to move the solos down 1 step so I don't have to go out of standard.

I can play the interlude/2nd solo in Sixpounder (the only part of that song I really like) to some degree, the solo in Needled 24/7.

...

So really not many. I'm going to try and get around to learning the Hate Me! and the Kissing the Shadows solo. Over-rated or not, they're still amazing.

State which CoB songs you can play...

[Shadows]

I can't play any. Playing songs by bands I listen to doesn't interest me nearly as much as others, but I like to play odd riffs and whatnot.

[I'm Charming]

I love all of them. The only single moment I dislike on that album is the opening punk riff to The Nail. Other then that, it's my favorite album along with Follow the Reaper.


I like The Nail. :p

I love Something Wild, but it's not their best.

Touch like Angel of Death is the best. Second would be Lake Bodom.

To join in the overated CoB songs to be learned on guitar topic.

I play up to the chorus on Needled 24 7 including intro solo. I love playing that lead riff.
I'm working on In Flames's The Quiet Place as of right now.

[Britton]

I've leant all of Bed of Razors (finally)

Does anyone else have trouble with the beginging of the solo?

What fingers do you use?

[blue3]

I've never tried learning that song. I should.. sometime.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Something Wild is probably my favourite Bodom album.

[repcak]

I've leant all of Bed of Razors (finally)

Does anyone else have trouble with the beginging of the solo?

What fingers do you use?

i haven't learnt the whole song yet, but i too have problems with the beginning.

i always use my pinky; i.a.w.: i use all four fingers

[PsychoticFlubber]

Chokehold is a very fun song to learn. I don't find it to be as difficult as their others. Besides, most of it is easy to play CORRECTLY because of Alexi's Young Guitar DVD thing, which shows alot of the riffs and stuff. Besides, if anyone reads Guitar World, Alexi had a column in that, which showed how to play basicly everything. I believe one song that should be tabbed out correctly is... nevermind... I think all of HCDR should be, just because I see so many mistakes on what is already available for it. I would do it myself, although I have a really bad ear. All I have fixed for myself was the riffs to Sixpounder.

[Toaster]

Yeah, the palm muted part of the Chokehold lead is so fun to play.. it's like a riff, but also like a solo. The keyboard/guitar harmony part is tough.

[MRDuCran]

I love hokehold too, I played it this morning before I went to work.

I think I can play about 80% of the songs on each album by Bodom, I completely whore them. I don't learn the solos if I can't play the solos perfectly just incase I build up sloppy technique at that specific thing.

I can play the rhythms of:

Lake Bodom
Warheart
Silent Night, Bodom Night
Bed of Razors
Towards Dead End
Black Widow
Children of Bodom
Downfall
Bodom After Midnight
Everytime I Die
Hate Me
Needled 24/7
Sixpounder
Chokehold
Bodom Beach Terror
Hate Crew Deathroll
Living Dead Beat
Are You Dead Yet
In Your Face

lol im sad :)

[Shadows]

I've tried learning several odd rhythm guitar parts off of CoB songs and they don't seem hard. With a band like this I'd much rather jump right to soloing, but I'm not quite a shredder.

But I'm close. \m/

Time to learn me up some cunt-smashing Shadows Fall riffs!

I (heart) both of these bands! :eek:

[PsychoticFlubber]

I love hokehold too, I played it this morning before I went to work.

I think I can play about 80% of the songs on each album by Bodom, I completely whore them. I don't learn the solos if I can't play the solos perfectly just incase I build up sloppy technique at that specific thing.

I can play the rhythms of:

Lake Bodom
Warheart
Silent Night, Bodom Night
Bed of Razors
Towards Dead End
Black Widow
Children of Bodom
Downfall
Bodom After Midnight
Everytime I Die
Hate Me
Needled 24/7
Sixpounder
Chokehold
Bodom Beach Terror
Hate Crew Deathroll
Living Dead Beat
Are You Dead Yet
In Your Face

lol im sad :)

Yeah, Bodom Beach Terror is fun too! Although, I suck, and can't play solos. I am not fast enough I guess. I am still trying my best to build up speed, but I am not sure how. I can do easy sweep licks... I suck at legato. I can trem pick fast as hell, but my fingers don't move nearly as fast It's all too sloppy. Especially when after almost 4 years of playing, I am just learning to use my pinky.

[MRDuCran]

I think Bodoms stuff is actually tricky to get perfect, and I always compare myself with the cd, meaning it's very tough trying to play things exactly like Alexi, and to be honest, I don't think many people would be able to do it. I've never heard any decent recordings of Bodom songs so I guess that means most other people find them hard too...

[Toaster]

Time for me to cover a Bodom song and post it here?

[blue3]

Time for me to cover a Bodom song and post it here?Yeah sure?

[Mr. Squiggles]

I need to finish my Children of Decadence cover...

[The Sandman]

Hmm...Ok. A question.

In the Hate Me! solo during the first run there's a part that looks like...

E---17-18-20-22--
B-------------------

Should you play that with all four fingers or should you be cheap and play the A on the 22nd fret on B. I tried doing it with all four fingers and it's kind of tough but all I'd need to do would be to practice it.

Can anyone here play that solo? If so how do you play that part. Even if you can't you can still give advice.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Hmm...Ok. A question.

In the Hate Me! solo during the first run there's a part that looks like...

E---17-18-20-22--
B-------------------

Should you play that with all four fingers or should you be cheap and play the A on the 22nd fret on B. I tried doing it with all four fingers and it's kind of tough but all I'd need to do would be to practice it.

Can anyone here play that solo? If so how do you play that part. Even if you can't you can still give advice.

It dosen't really matter how you play it... as long as it's the right note... unless you wan't to be exatacly like Alexi, then you would have to figure out how he plays it. But I mean whatever is the most comfortable.

At least in my opinion

[The Sandman]

I would have just done what was comfortable but I think it'd be good to get practice at using all four fingers. I'll see how hard it is to play with all four fingers around the correct speed after practising it for a while.

[Toaster]

Generally no one can play too well with all four fingers on one string. It's highly likely Alexi either uses two strings like you said, or he slides up with his ring/pinkie finger.

I also have no idea which run you're talking about.. what's the play time at the point of that run?

[PsychoticFlubber]

I would have just done what was comfortable but I think it'd be good to get practice at using all four fingers. I'll see how hard it is to play with all four fingers around the correct speed after practising it for a while.
Yeah, it doesn't matter as long as you're hitting the right note. But in my opinion, you should try to use four fingers, because if you practice it and you perfect it, than it will just mean you have improved. But, what's comfortable is good too.

[I'm Charming]

I would have just done what was comfortable but I think it'd be good to get practice at using all four fingers. I'll see how hard it is to play with all four fingers around the correct speed after practising it for a while.

I play almost everything with three fingers... I only use my pinkie if I really have to...

Some people say that's sloppy but I think if it sounds great and is comfertable to play... Then it works.

[roulette dares 3]

well in my opinoin if I may...you should practice chromatics up and down the fretboard starting slowly and faster as each of your fingers become more independant. Most people find it hard to to use the pinkey because i think it shares the same muscle to some degree with the third finger (ring) so practicing using chromatics can help develope the pinkys independeence. I use to practice chromatics everytime i pick up the guitar and it helped a lot. You should also try chromatic triplets and other sequences. This is what helped me.

[I'm Charming]

well in my opinoin if I may...you should practice chromatics up and down the fretboard starting slowly and faster as each of your fingers become more independant. Most people find it hard to to use the pinkey because i think it shares the same muscle to some degree with the third finger (ring) so practicing using chromatics can help develope the pinkys independeence. I use to practice chromatics everytime i pick up the guitar and it helped a lot. You should also try chromatic triplets and other sequences. This is what helped me.

I should really check into that.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Chromatics bore the **** out of me. Same with other exercises like that.

I just pick up the guitar and play riffs and solos or something.

[roulette dares 3]

Well if that works for you. People shouldn't start playing super fast solos if they don't have the technical abilities yet. Playing fast is cool but playing sloppy will not impress anyone. I remeber when i started out playing i thought the end solo to mr.crowly by randy rhoads was the coolest and i learnt to play it. But it sounded **** and sloppy and that wasn't going to impress anyone. After about 1 month of chromtaics i nailed that solo. just a bit of inspiration...

[The Sandman]

I go through periods where I'll spend 30-60 minutes doing chromatics with a metronome. It's the holidays now so I'm starting to get back into my routine.

And yes, chromatics do help you get fast.

[Aaron_Of_Oz]

children of bodom are a really good band!! i have bestbreeder and half of hate crew deathroll and are you dead yet? what are their best albums and i will get them?

[Aaron_Of_Oz]

I go through periods where I'll spend 30-60 minutes doing chromatics with a metronome. It's the holidays now so I'm starting to get back into my routine.

And yes, chromatics do help you get fast.

what are chromatics? because i am trying to get faster at the moment

[The Sandman]

Exercises that use all your fingers. I think.

eg.


D-------------------1-2-3-4
A----------1-2-3-4---------
E-1-2-3-4------------------ etc

Look around in the lessons section and there'll no doubt be stuff on building speed and the like.

[Aaron_Of_Oz]

Exercises that use all your fingers. I think.

eg.


D-------------------1-2-3-4
A----------1-2-3-4---------
E-1-2-3-4------------------ etc

Look around in the lessons section and there'll no doubt be stuff on building speed and the like.

ok then thanks for that

[roulette dares 3]

well you sound like you don't know theory so i'll explain it the easiest way. A chromatic scale would include every note or fret on the fretboard so to practice using chromatics start anywhere on the fret board and play each finger consecutively one after another. Alternatively start at the first fret 1 2 3 4 on the low E string then the next string, the A string and up to the high e string and then move the first finger to the second fret and descend. This was the routine i ued evertime i picked up a guitar when i first strated out.

[Epicurus]

Chromatics are only helpfull for building strength and speed. There not really gonna help you with soloing that much.