Children Of Bodom

[GaggingOrder]

I wrote three songs three years back, and they were nu-metal.

I wrote some thrash songs lately, and the nu-metal ones sound way better. It's like I was a more intelligent songwriter when I was 12, and that baffles me.

[AA-12]

Arch Enemy doesn't have the Gothenburg sound, no...there's no denying they're melodic death though.
Yeah, they are definitely Melo-Death.

[IheartSP]

In Flames doesn't have any real death metal sound in them though. I would hesitate to call them or Dark Tranquility or really that whole Gothenburg scene real death metal, besides Arch Enemy. I have Jester Race, and some songs, namely Wayfaerer and Artifacts of the Black Rain, sound really upbeat and calling them death metal is almost a joke.

As far as writing songs goes, I love to write songs, and I know some of oyu here have seen my stuff but if anyone else is interested in seeing my bands guitar pro's, I'd love to show you. Leah and FlamesofBodom have seen them all and liked them a lot, so if anyone is interested just ask. Also to anyone who has seen them already, there is a new one and I finished another one, so there are 2 more songs for you to see, they have complete drumming too.

[Shadows]

Are they actual recordings or still Guitar Pro files?

But any way, now that I am able to record, I'll most likely be doing a lot of songwriting. I'd like to make some stuff up and get it recorded...maybe give you guys a listen when I feel confident enough. :) I have a unique idea in mind that I think I can work with pretty well. Hopefully I'm not a shitty songwriter.

[IheartSP]

I'd like to get you guys recordings but we dont have any lyrics yet and we don't have a singer technically the person still has to try out, but if we don't accept him I'd be pretty surpised I alreayd have heard him sing. Sometime in September when we are all done going on vacations and such we are going to the studio and we should be recording 4 or 5 songs.

[GaggingOrder]

It is unfortunately impossible for me to get the songs from recorder to internet.

Unless I do something retarded.

I may post my ghey nu-metal soongs when possible.

[flamesofbodom]

Oh cool. New songs, i need to see them. Im writing much better now, the songs actually have a structured format. :p I like them a hell of a lot better than the one's i uploaded anyway.

Does anyone else have any songs to post?

[Hells Bells]

Yeah, lol the stuff I've been writing lately actually ties together, it's not just random riffs. I wanted to have some stuff done by the time my band starts up this fall.

[flamesofbodom]

The soing im working on sounds a lot like Opeth. Its weird...but i like it.

[Hells Bells]

Their heavier or softer stuff?

[AA-12]

The soing im working on sounds a lot like Opeth. Its weird...but i like it.
Awesome. Everything I write is inspired by Opeth, haha. Hell, my entire musical taste is inspired by them.

[flamesofbodom]

Their heavier or softer stuff?
Both. Its like the stuff off BP, it keeps changing back and forth.
Awesome. Everything I write is inspired by Opeth, haha. Hell, my entire musical taste is inspired by them.
Thats awesome. Is it as hard to write that way as me or am i just like that? It kinda feels like some of the stuff doesnt fit but does at the same time :confused:

[Moses]

Finally I went to Best Buy and got Follow the Reaper. Jeeze, I kept forgetting it. I also found Irony is a Dead Scene from The DEP which I couldn't find anywhere. (10 bucks)

[Hells Bells]

Really? The Best Buy here has nothing other than top forty stuff. Then again, most of the places here are the same, and if they do have anything good, it costs an arm and a leg.

[Shattered_Future]

I found FTR at Bestbuy...

Now they're starting to bother me. Bestbuy has almost nothing i want anymore...

[Shadows]

Best Buy has some stuff I like. They usually have a pretty good death metal selection.

[CaptainWaits]

I found FTR at Bestbuy...

Now they're starting to bother me. Bestbuy has almost nothing i want anymore...

I don't know how all you people at least find that sh*t at Best Buy. The two Best Buy's by me have nothing more than the top of the mainstream metal (Metallica, etc.).

[Moses]

Wow, that sucks. I could probably get some good black metal there. I should probably look but I like to stick to downloading that kind of stuff because I usually like black metal in spurts better than over long stretches.

[Nightwish666]

hatebreeder and something wild are there best albums

[dest. Chaos]

does anybody hear speak finnish? (translate the talking in oops i did it again)

[Squirrel]

i do a bit, but not enougfh to translate that i dont think

ill check

[flamesofbodom]

My Best Buy doesnt even carry Bodom. It doesnt have much but Border's has EVERYTHING.

[MRDuCran]

does anybody hear speak finnish? (translate the talking in oops i did it again)

The first thing Alexi says is "Cause to loose all". Its the lyrics to the song and you can hear him say it again in the pre chorus, but i don't know what the next bit is since i don't speak finnish.

[AA-12]

Thats awesome. Is it as hard to write that way as me or am i just like that? It kinda feels like some of the stuff doesnt fit but does at the same time :confused:
It can be very hard to do. Focus on learning your theory and using disharmony.

[Shadows]

This is a question of curiosity...but does anyone here like Dimmu Borgir?

[AA-12]

I love them. Very talented band.

[Shadows]

I love them. Very talented band.
Really??

Recently (as in a few months ago) I discovered I like them.

Ever since I had first heard Death Cult Armageddon I hated that band with a firey passion. I downloaded For All Tid just to give them a fair chance, but in the end I thought they were nothing more than a bunch of anti-Christs from Norway who favored symphonic sounds and a blasphemous image over actually playing music.

But then, a few months ago, a friend of mine (who also loves them) burned me DCA and Enthrone Darkness Triumphant. I still dislike DCA, but EDT I loved. It had some very cool melodies - like old Cradle of Filth with a symphonic atmosphere. I just downloaded For All Tid and Stormblast to see what those are like again.

NP: Dimmu Borgir - In Death's Embrace

[IheartSP]

Bodom was never a gateway to black metal type bands for me. I don't understand why a bunch of Bodom fans like CoF and Dimmu Borgir, Bodom really isn't anything like them if you ask me. I think it makes more sense that I listen to powermetal.

[Shadows]

Since when are people confined to bands that all sound similar? It's called "diverse taste". I love Bodom, I love CoF and lately DB, and I also love bands that sound nothing like any of those.

[IheartSP]

I'm not saying your now allowed to, but an excess of people do. It leads me to believe there is some connection between them.

[Moses]

Actually Angels Don't Kill kinda sounds like Dimmu Borgir.....

[IheartSP]

Well HCDR and AYDY aren't like old Bodom. I agree about Angels Don't Kill, it almost kind of sounds like melodeath to me a little bit in the solo.

[Shadows]

Actually Angels Don't Kill kinda sounds like Dimmu Borgir.....
Wha...? :confused:

I never thought anything Bodom has done sounds remotely like Dimmu...

[Moses]

Well newer Dimmu like the song, POTGA.

[Shadows]

Well newer Dimmu like the song, POTGA.
I guess that makes more sense.

Earlier Dimmu was quite black metal and extremely symphonic.

[Moses]

Yeah I know what older Dimmu sounds like but but I usually take a bands sound for what they've progressed into.

I like how in the booklet for FTR it says Bodom would let these people live: and goes into the thank you's.

[AA-12]

Eh, Dimmu sounds nothing like Bodom. They barely even sound like Black Metal.

[Shadows]

I like how in the booklet for FTR it says Bodom would let these people live: and goes into the thank you's.
I like how they do that too. :lol: Like in HCDR when it says "Children of Bodom would buy the following people a beer:" and it goes into thank you's, and then "Chidlren of Bodom would smash the bottle over the heads of the following people:" and they put down various people they hate.

[Moses]

Well listen to Angels Don't Kill and then listen to Progenies of the Great Apocalypse. I mean they both are newer sides of the band and the older sides don't sound anything like each other but still those two songs were similar.

Who here likes the cover of Burn in Hell by Dimmu because I kinda like it.

[IheartSP]

HCDR was a weird album because some songs didn't sound like any of the others, liek Angels Don't Kill and Sixpounder. The other albums all seemed to maintain a similar sound.

[Shadows]

Well listen to Angels Don't Kill and then listen to Progenies of the Great Apocalypse. I mean they both are newer sides of the band and the older sides don't sound anything like each other but still those two songs were similar.I guess I can see where the similarities are. New Dimmu is more of a slower, synth-laden chugging sound with a lot of screaming, which is basically the same as Angels Don't Kill.

Who here likes the cover of Burn in Hell by Dimmu because I kinda like it.Never heard it.

[Moses]

The original is Twisted Sister but I'll upload Dimmu Borgir's cover. It's off the bonus disc from DCA. I liked For All Tid and Stormblast better than that one but I decided to buy it after hearing the Burn in Hell cover.

[CaptainWaits]

HCDR was a weird album because some songs didn't sound like any of the others, liek Angels Don't Kill and Sixpounder. The other albums all seemed to maintain a similar sound.

HCDR I can listen to most often of their albums. It's still not my favorite CoB album, but I've listened to it most from Start to Finish. That should probably make it my favorite, but whatever it's not.

[Shadows]

I've listened to it most from Start to Finnish.
:lol: You had an opportunity for the best pun ever right there.

[Moses]

There's Burn in Hell by Dimmu Borgir.

http://rapidshare.de/files/3822506/02_Burn_In_Hell__Twisted_Sister_Cover_.wma.html

[MRDuCran]

:lol: You had an opportunity for the best pun ever right there.

Nicely done :thumb:

[CaptainWaits]

:lol: You had an opportunity for the best pun ever right there.

:lol:

Thanks for pointing that out.

[Moses]

I like HCDR almost as much as I like Follow the Reaper even if it is different. It's probably the most listenable and teeny boppers are starting to do the "Me luv NeEdLed 24/SeVeN" now. I think it's a good song though and I'm not surprised that it is happening because Bodom is so catchy.

[FlyingPaul_83]

How long is black widow?

[IheartSP]

4 minutes including the little intro keyboard, why?

btw, Final Fantasy rules, especially 7.

I saw a thread a while ago saying there was a relation between prog and FF and I thought, that's ridiuculous, theres a relationship between power metal and FF, it makes much more sense.

[FlyingPaul_83]

4 minutes including the little intro keyboard, why?

btw, Final Fantasy rules, especially 7.

I saw a thread a while ago saying there was a relation between prog and FF and I thought, that's ridiuculous, theres a relationship between power metal and FF, it makes much more sense.



Can someone upload it, cause the one I have is 25 seconds long :(

Theres a FF thread in the video game forum if you wanna talk about FF inthere.

[kurt98]

I've dled acouple of bodom songs, and they kickass. Now I'm curious whats a good cd to get of them? thx

[FlyingPaul_83]

Follow the reaper
Hatebreeder

[kurt98]

Follow the reaper
Hatebreeder
which one should i pick?

[FlyingPaul_83]

both bitch




just kidding, get whichever, you won't go wrong with either of them, :thumb:

What songs did you download?

[IheartSP]

Hatebreeder if you already are into other powermetal, otherwise I suggest starting with Follow the Reaper.

[Shadows]

Get them all.

[IheartSP]

I wouldn't say get them all, HCDR is a bit different from the others, as is Something Wild.

[Shadows]

I wouldn't say get them all, HCDR is a bit different from the others, as is Something Wild.
Get them all.

[kurt98]

both bitch




just kidding, get whichever, you won't go wrong with either of them, :thumb:

What songs did you download?
by songs i meant song lolz....i got six pounder, I loved the guitar work. Ok thanks for the reccomendation :D

[Moses]

Stop being a HCDR hater. I thought it was the catchiest and easiest to listen to and also was a solid album that they maybe expiremented a little more on.

[IheartSP]

Are you calling me a HCDR hater? I don't remember dissing it in any way, but if he downloaded stuff from the 2 middle albums and bought HCDR he might not be satisfied.

[flamesofbodom]

Which would make him buy more Cob ****...

AM I RIGHT?

[Moses]

Well, you keep calling it a wierd album for COB and my comment was a little tongue-in-cheek so don't take it seriously. It was also the fact that ShadowsFallen said all of them and he would be satisfied with that. Telling him to get any album but to watch out for HCDR because it sound a little different, would have been my advice.

[IheartSP]

Well notice I also commented on something wild but no one busts my balls about that

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YU9EE0O48ZKA0660H0LH33HXN

it's Black Widow for the guy who wanted it.

[Moses]

You said more about HCDR in the past though. He probably won't find Somthing Wild before the other ones either.

[FlyingPaul_83]

thanks for the upload

[IheartSP]

Well I happen to like HCDR, as much as the others no but jsut because I like it doesn't mean it'll appeal to someone who like the other albums. It certainly is different and someone who likes Hatebreeder has a chance of not liking HCDR.

[flamesofbodom]

God i love Black Widow

[Moses]

I know what you said and I know why you said it. It wasn't to be taken seriously when I called you a hater but I felt that you being unfair when we've all heard you say that it wasn't a good representation of the band a couple times.

[FlyingPaul_83]

How many tracks are on hatebreeder?

[Shattered_Future]

Either 9 or 10...

[flamesofbodom]

9 songs.

BTW the new Chimaira cd is brilliant

[IheartSP]

It won't be considered the best representation until something comes out after AYDY that sounds similar to AYDY and HCDR. For now, Something Wild, Hatebreeder, and Follow the Reaper are the examples of Bodom's sound if you had to pin it on anything.

[Scoot]

I wish that CoB was on the Gigantour. That would kick.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I wish that CoB was on the Gigantour. That would kick.

Yeah, Them Instead of Fear Factory.

[COBskater666]

you know what sucks


children of bodom came to the norva right beside my house and i didn't even know about it

[Shadows]

If it's any consolation, I would recommend getting Something Wild first.

[CaptainWaits]

Yeah, Them Instead of Fear Factory.

Them instead of DEP. Fear Factory's not bad.

[Moses]

DEP kills live and on the records. FF is good but not as good as DEP. Even if you don't like them give them merit for thier musicianship.

[CaptainWaits]

DEP kills live and on the records. FF is good but not as good as DEP. Even if you don't like them give them merit for thier musicianship.

I shall see once I see them at Gigan...

[NEVRMORE2]

im not a fan of DEP but if there as good as you say they shuld get rid of all the ****ty hardcore bands and put them in altohguh if you think about it id rather see COB than DEP....

[Moses]

Well I think I'd rather see DEP because they should be insane live. The time signatures make the band so chaotic. They are geniuses and are avant garde if anything but some people lable them as ****ty metalcore because of the image. They are a truly chaotic band and if you like Patton type stuff you'll like that band but to some people are really unlistenable.

I don't think there are any hardcore bands on Gigantour. Most of the bands are chosen soley for their musical skill.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Them instead of DEP. Fear Factory's not bad.


DEP wasn't at my show, They didn't start touring with Gigantour until the 5th, a couple of days ago. I went July 30th. Fear Factory were alright, but I would MUCH rather see COB than Fear factory.

[Hells Bells]

Does anyone know why they didn't want to tour with DT? I know that Henka doesn't like prog...but that's not much of a reason.

[FlyingPaul_83]

In a guitar world interview alexi said this:
"some people play super fast, but super boring, like Dream Theater."

[Moses]

Mike Portnoy would beat the **** outta him. That dude is badass.

[Shadows]

Does anyone know why they didn't want to tour with DT? I know that Henka doesn't like prog...but that's not much of a reason.
Most of the guys in CoB hate Dream THeater. Alexi especially.

I must say I agree. They can play but their music couldn't be more boring.

[Huber]

Hasn't the DT Vs. CoB thing been done already? Who cares? He doesn't like a band. I'm sure they don't like tons of other bands too, as does everyone else. Turning this into a fan rivalry would be incredibly lame.

See: Metallica and Megadeth.

[Moses]

Is it just me or are the vocals for Hellion really crappy? I love the instrumentation and the bass in the beginning but man some of the vocals sound bad.

[Huber]

Is it just me or are the vocals for Hellion really crappy? I love the instrumentation and the bass in the beginning but man some of the vocals sound bad.

I like the vocals a lot in that song.

[Hells Bells]

No, it's not a band rivalry thing, I like both equally, I just wanted to know why they didn't want to tour with DT. I knew something had been mentioned about that in this thread, but I didn't want to dig through it...this thread is 124 pages long.

[Moses]

I just think they could have gone about it better.

[Hells Bells]

I don't think there are any hardcore bands on Gigantour. Most of the bands are chosen soley for their musical skill.

I read an interview with Dave about Gigantour and he said he chose bands that were heavy but still upbeat.

[Shadows]

Is it just me or are the vocals for Hellion really crappy? I love the instrumentation and the bass in the beginning but man some of the vocals sound bad.
I actually don't like that song period. I haven't heard a single cover CoB has done that I like (excluding the new 'Oops' and Slayer's 'Silent Scream')

Goodnight everybody.

[CaptainWaits]

Is it just me or are the vocals for Hellion really crappy? I love the instrumentation and the bass in the beginning but man some of the vocals sound bad.
W.A.S.P did the original Hellion, right?? Correct me if I'm wrong.

DEP wasn't at my show, They didn't start touring with Gigantour until the 5th, a couple of days ago. I went July 30th. Fear Factory were alright, but I would MUCH rather see COB than Fear factory.
I'll be able to see Anthrax too! :cool:


Mike Portnoy would beat the **** outta him. That dude is badass.
Portnoy.....:o

/yawn

[nirvana_33]

Anyone have the Britney Spears cover? I didn't get to it in time.

[flamesofbodom]

Yeah Hellion is by WASP. I liked that cover b/c it kinda sounded garage-y

[NEVRMORE2]

I'll be able to see Anthrax too! :cool:
rub it in

[FlyingPaul_83]

Anyone have the Britney Spears cover? I didn't get to it in time.


I'll upload it

hxxp://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=076H19356O7V10BH6IUGAORKGS

there you go :thumb:

[nirvana_33]

I'll upload it

hxxp://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=076H19356O7V10BH6IUGAORKGS

there you go :thumb:
Thanks a lot. :thumb:

[FlyingPaul_83]

no problem :)

[IheartSP]

Does everyone here have a Bodom shirt? If so, which one? I have the Hatebreeder shirt and the bleeding logo shirt.

[Shadows]

I have a Follow the Reaper shirt. I feel oh so metal when I wear it.

[CaptainWaits]

I downloaded that Britney Spears cover. Now I know it's supposed to be a joke, but it was just plain sh*tty IMO. They could've found something better to joke around with, that was brutal.

[flamesofbodom]

Does everyone here have a Bodom shirt? If so, which one? I have the Hatebreeder shirt and the bleeding logo shirt.
Dam you. I need to start getting shirts online

[IheartSP]

I love the britney spears cover, I thought it was hilarious, it seems you either love it or hate it

[dest. Chaos]

Does everyone here have a Bodom shirt? If so, which one? I have the Hatebreeder shirt and the bleeding logo shirt.
Follow The Reaper T-shirt....

[Shattered_Future]

No Bodom shirts. :evil:

[Hells Bells]

Not yet....the only place that I can find that sells stuff like that where I live doesn't have Bodom shirts.

[AA-12]

im not a fan of DEP but if there as good as you say they shuld get rid of all the ****ty hardcore bands and put them in altohguh if you think about it id rather see COB than DEP....
Yeah, DEP has more talent than basically all the bands on the tour other than DT.

[Shadows]

Yeah, DEP has more talent than basically all the bands on the tour other than DT.
I think people really overrate DEP's musical talent.

I think Jeff Loomis and Steve Smyth could pwn DEPs guitarists.

But meh, that's just me.

[AA-12]

I think people really overrate DEP's musical talent.

I think Jeff Loomis and Steve Smyth could pwn DEPs guitarists.

But meh, that's just me.
Eh, if anything i'd say DEP's guitarists are underrated.

[Shadows]

Eh, if anything i'd say DEP's guitarists are underrated.
I see them praised constantly around MX. But then again, I'm slightly biased against anyone who plays that style of music.

[Shattered_Future]

I try and I try and I try to get into DEP...

...and i still don't get it. It sounds like really mindless noise to me.

[Shadows]

I try and I try and I try to get into DEP...

...and i still don't get it. It sounds like really mindless noise to me.
That's always been my view. DEP, Psyopus, Number 12 Looks Like You, etc. I could never get into any of those bands. Psyopus especially.

[flamesofbodom]

I like DEP, but i dont know why

[AA-12]

Meh, you won't like DEP if you don't like Jazz/Very Technical Metal.

[Shattered_Future]

The weird thing is, I like other technical metal (Meshuggah, plenty of prog bands), and jazz constantly surrounds me 24/7, and I find it awesome.

I don't know what it is about this band though...they. just. plain. SUCK.

[AA-12]

The weird thing is, I like other technical metal (Meshuggah, plenty of prog bands), and jazz constantly surrounds me 24/7, and I find it awesome.

I don't know what it is about this band though...they. just. plain. SUCK.
Hmm, that's weird.

[Shadows]

Me too. I love technical metal but I couldn't get into those bands.

[IheartSP]

Who is DEP?

[flamesofbodom]

Dillinger Escape Plan. I have uploads if you want em

[Shadows]

If it's tech metal, I prefer bands like Necrophagist or Spawn of Possession.

Death Metal \m/ (><) \m/

[IheartSP]

I've heard of them, but it doesn't sound like my thing at all. I'm not into technical metal.

[MRDuCran]

If it's tech metal, I prefer bands like Necrophagist or Spawn of Possession.

Death Metal \m/ (><) \m/

Yeaaa Necrophagist!!!

[CaptainWaits]

Meh, you won't like DEP if you don't like Jazz/Very Technical Metal.
I love a lot of techincal metal groups, and my following genre of metal is Jazz. Guess I'm just like Shattered_Future.

[Shadows]

Yeaaa Necrophagist!!!
They kick ***. Them and Spawn of Possession are both way overdue for a new album.

I'm into jazz as well...is it the same for everyone here?

[AA-12]

I'm into jazz as well...is it the same for everyone here?
Yeah.

[dest. Chaos]

They kick ***. Them and Spawn of Possession are both way overdue for a new album.

I'm into jazz as well...is it the same for everyone here?
nöpp

[flamesofbodom]

They kick ***. Them and Spawn of Possession are both way overdue for a new album.

I'm into jazz as well...is it the same for everyone here?
yessir

[Shadows]

Alrighty then. :) If I have a theory question I'll just ask you guys first.

[MRDuCran]

Alrighty then. :) If I have a theory question I'll just ask you guys first.

I'd say Eggo would be the best choice for theory questions. Go in the Guitar forum and post in the sticky called Theory/IMprov/Compositional thread or something like that.

[IheartSP]

Eggo is the jazz master and the theory master. I may or may not be able to help you, I am a novice compared to him.

[AA-12]

I talk to Amit every day basically, so if you have a question I can run it past him.

[IheartSP]

He used to be an aquatance of mine back when I was in the guitar forum. He'd always be there at all the yahoo jams but otherwise I never really talked to him.

Anyone ever realize this thread was started by someone who never posts here?

[Shadows]

Anyone ever realize this thread was started by someone who never posts here?
Yes.

[IheartSP]

Yes.
oh....

way to make me feel unimportant.

[Hells Bells]

They kick ***. Them and Spawn of Possession are both way overdue for a new album.

I'm into jazz as well...is it the same for everyone here?

I could never get into it..then again until lately, the only stuff I was into outside of rock was classical, and even then only a few composers like chopin, beethoven, liszt and mozart.

[MRDuCran]

I could never get into it..then again until lately, the only stuff I was into outside of rock was classical, and even then only a few composers like chopin, beethoven, liszt and mozart.

Thats pretty much how it is for me too.

[AA-12]

Get some Stravinsky. He is currently my all time favorite composer.

[Shadows]

oh....

way to make me feel unimportant.
I do what I can.

[Hells Bells]

What kind of stuff does he do?

[AA-12]

What kind of stuff does he do?
Very original/crazy stuff. It's very evil sounding. Want some uploads?

[Hells Bells]

haha sounds like something I'd like. Yeah sure, thanks :D

[flamesofbodom]

Very original/crazy stuff. It's very evil sounding. Want some uploads?
yes please :D

[AA-12]

http://www.musicianalliance.net/music/

Enjoy.

[Hells Bells]

For some reason, the link isn't working for me...

[AA-12]

Try these, individual links to the songs:

http://www.musicianalliance.net/music/08%20Jeu%20des%20princesses%20avec%20les%20pomme.m p3

http://www.musicianalliance.net/music/12%20Carillon%20feerique,%20apparition%20des.mp3

http://www.musicianalliance.net/music/14%20Dialogue%20de%20Kastchel%20avec%20Ivan%20Ts.m p3

http://www.musicianalliance.net/music/16%20Apparition%20de%20l'Oiseau%20de%20feu.mp3

http://www.musicianalliance.net/music/17%20Danse%20de%20la%20suite%20de%20Kastchei%20enc .mp3

[flamesofbodom]

:eek: Goddam.....I feel like a beginner fag now :upset:

[AA-12]

:eek: Goddam.....I feel like a beginner fag now :upset:
Why?

[flamesofbodom]

Dude! Listen to that....goddam!

[CaptainWaits]

For jazz, you can't go wrong with the the Fusion/Post-Bop artisits. John Scofield, Joshua Redman (some), The Bad Plus, Soulive, Medeski Martin and Wood. That's where the jazz is great!

And one more thing, TSASI, I see you'r obviuosly a member of Musician Alliance, who are you over there?

[flamesofbodom]

That's his site.

Well, at least i write longer songs than Igor...

[AA-12]

For jazz, you can't go wrong with the the Fusion/Post-Bop artisits. John Scofield, Joshua Redman (some), The Bad Plus, Soulive, Medeski Martin and Wood. That's where the jazz is great!

And one more thing, TSASI, I see you'r obviuosly a member of Musician Alliance, who are you over there?
I run Musician Alliance :p

[Hells Bells]

heh...it's still not working. It's probably just my crappy internet, which has been randomly screwing up the past few days.

[CaptainWaits]

I run Musician Alliance :p

Josh??

I thought you were "RideTheExistence" or something.

[AA-12]

Josh??

Yep.

[flamesofbodom]

Are TMS and Powerchord Rock in school or something? They're like not here anymore

[Shattered_Future]

TMS probably had a run-in with her parents...you know how they are about this site.

Don't know about the other...

If you want fusion, try the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Great, great fusion music.

[flamesofbodom]

TMS probably had a run-in with her parents...you know how they are about this site.

Don't know about the other...

If you want fusion, try the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Great, great fusion music.
Wow im suprised my parents havent busted me. I mentioned PR because they're neigbors(sp) so...

[MRDuCran]

TMS probably had a run-in with her parents...you know how they are about this site.

Don't know about the other...

If you want fusion, try the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Great, great fusion music.

I downloaded one of their albums. It's all one file but i'll probably listen to it sometime.

[AA-12]

Man, I love MO. They completely own any of those prog bands who claim they are the most technical thing ever. MO is not only more technical than them all, but they are also great sounding.

[flamesofbodom]

Hey TSASI can you upload one of your songs? Im interested to hear your
Opeth-esque-ness

[AA-12]

I have nothing recorded yet, sorry.

[IheartSP]

have any powertabs or guitar pros?

[Shadows]

TMS probably had a run-in with her parents...you know how they are about this site.
Last time I talked to her she said her parents got really pissed off about something and banned her from the forums. She comes on when they're not around, but other than that, I think we'll see very little of her.

[flamesofbodom]

have any powertabs or guitar pros?
yeah those work too. You could always put them on there for a better refrence

[IheartSP]

uhhgg I just spent like an hour working on a song ive said is done like 3 times...

I redid the whole verse and the sound came out pretty cool, it sounds like upbeat Norther, something no one probably imagined possible...

[Shadows]

You gotta do what you've gotta do. I've spent hours writing songs only to realize it was total crap. That kind of stuff happens.

[Scoot]

Holy ****, I just listened to one of DEP's songs and it was absolute crap. The guitars weren't even in time with the vocals, which sounded 10 times worse than Alexi's, and the drums sounded horrible. Whoever cancelled Symphony X for these guys should be shot.

I totally with CoB was on Gigantour. Would have actually been a better choice than Anthrax.

[IheartSP]

Yeah I've spent a while writing a song that I just end up junking in the end anyway, it's too bad.

[CaptainWaits]

Holy ****, I just listened to one of DEP's songs and it was absolute crap. The guitars weren't even in time with the vocals, which sounded 10 times worse than Alexi's, and the drums sounded horrible. Whoever cancelled Symphony X for these guys should be shot.

I totally with CoB was on Gigantour. Would have actually been a better choice than Anthrax.

I'm supposevly getting Symphony X and DEP, as well as Anthrax. Symphony X will be fabulous, along with Anthax and Megadeth.

[Shadows]

Holy ****, I just listened to one of DEP's songs and it was absolute crap. The guitars weren't even in time with the vocals, which sounded 10 times worse than Alexi's, and the drums sounded horrible. Whoever cancelled Symphony X for these guys should be shot.
I agree. I personally think that bands of that genre come dangerously close that divides 'music' and 'noise'. Psyopus especially.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Are TMS and Powerchord Rock in school or something? They're like not here anymore

Actually Leah has Pneumonia and is in the hospital. :upset: I'm probably going to go visit her today. The reason I haven't been on is my grandfather is moving and we have been helping him, so I haven't had time to do anything.

[Shadows]

Actually Leah has Pneumonia and is in the hospital. :upset: I'm probably going to go visit her today. The reason I haven't been on is my grandfather is moving and we have been helping him, so I haven't had time to do anything.
Pneumonia? I knew that "bronchitis" was too extreme to be true.

[Hells Bells]

Yeah I've spent a while writing a song that I just end up junking in the end anyway, it's too bad.

lol, yeah I know how that feels. I just found a song I wrote a while back, it sounds so bad that I wonder what I was thinking when I wrote it. It doesn't make musical sense at all, it's so random.

Actually Leah has Pneumonia and is in the hospital. I'm probably going to go visit her today. The reason I haven't been on is my grandfather is moving and we have been helping him, so I haven't had time to do anything.

That's terrible...especially in the summer, I hope she feels better soon.

[flamesofbodom]

Actually Leah has Pneumonia and is in the hospital. :upset: I'm probably going to go visit her today. The reason I haven't been on is my grandfather is moving and we have been helping him, so I haven't had time to do anything.
That's awful :upset: We should do something when she gets back

/thinking hard

[flamesofbodom]

Yeah I've spent a while writing a song that I just end up junking in the end anyway, it's too bad.
I hate when i do that. It happens more than i'd hope too

[Shadows]

That's awful :upset: We should do something when she gets back

/thinking hard
Like...post something?

[flamesofbodom]

......shut up......

I dunno...send her a funny song that will make her feel better

[Shadows]

Yeah...it would be nice to do something, but we're pretty limited over the internet.

[Mr. Squiggles]

That's awful :upset: We should do something when she gets back

/thinking hard

Yeah, I was trying to think of somthing that we could do for her too.

......shut up......

I dunno...send her a funny song that will make her feel better

Thats not a bad idea.

Or maybe make some kind of thread or somthing.

[Shadows]

I was just thinking we could at least start a thread for her in the Hatecrew forums.

[flamesofbodom]

Or we could do both.

[AA-12]

Holy ****, I just listened to one of DEP's songs and it was absolute crap. The guitars weren't even in time with the vocals, which sounded 10 times worse than Alexi's, and the drums sounded horrible. Whoever cancelled Symphony X for these guys should be shot.

I totally with CoB was on Gigantour. Would have actually been a better choice than Anthrax.
I can see that you don't get jazz/tech metal like DEP.

[IheartSP]

How does Alexi do all those tours while singing like he does? I sang along with Warheart and my throat kills already.

[Shadows]

You have to practice to keep your throat in shape just like an instrument. The more you sing the bigger your range and stamina will become.

[AA-12]

You just have to learn to sing and do proper practice. I personally can sing/scream for hours and not hurt, but I do get a bit tired. Like ShadowsFallen said, it's just an instrument.

[flamesofbodom]

You just have to learn to sing and do proper practice. I personally can sing/scream for hours and not hurt, but I do get a bit tired. Like ShadowsFallen said, it's just an instrument.
What kind of exercises can you do for singing?

Also what kind of exercises can you do for screaming?

[Huber]

What kind of exercises can you do for singing?

Also what kind of exercises can you do for screaming?

Go to the Jam Session forum and have a word with Merkaba.

[Shadows]

Can anybody around here do a really good death metal growl?

[IheartSP]

I think I do an ok Bodom, it's not great, but it's not too bad. It only last like 3 minutes tho.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I can sing the chorus to kissing the shadows :cool: but thats it, my throat hurts after.

[flamesofbodom]

Can anybody around here do a really good death metal growl?
I can sing along to In Flames but thats about as good as i can do. Oh and i dont get tired

[IheartSP]

I'd be much happier if I could sing for real.

[Shadows]

I just accept I'm not a vocalist. I come from a family of singers so I kind of enjoy being the only one who plays an instrument instead of singing.

[MRDuCran]

I think I do an ok Bodom, it's not great, but it's not too bad. It only last like 3 minutes tho.

I was thinking aobut asking in here for some advice on how to get the Alexi sound. I was also thinking, when you do it, is it loud so anyone around you can hear it or would you have to rely on a mic to get the volume?

I'm wondering coz i can do i good but its really quiet, if i try out loud it just sucks.

[IheartSP]

I can't do it quiet, only loud. I try and use a rasp from the bottom of my throat, it really hurts tho.

[MRDuCran]

Oh right, i guess i just need to start practising doing it loud then. I've read one of Merkaba's threads but when i listened to his demonstration it didn't sound how i wanted to...maybe i should look at some more.

[Hells Bells]

It would be awesome to be able to do that, but you need a low voice to be able to pull it off, so it's something I'll never be able to do. Oh well lol, I'm happy playing piano and guitar.

[IheartSP]

man I'm so bored, if anyone wants to chat on AIM my sn is Aceshigh616

[Hells Bells]

Wow..does no one use msn? I thought everyone had stopped using AIM and ICQ until I came on these forums.

[IheartSP]

I can't not use AIM, all my friends use it, and getting the 100 people on my buddy list to switch is a lost cause.

[Hells Bells]

hehe it's completely opposite for me, everyone I know uses msn.

[IheartSP]

must be a local thing

[Moses]

It depends on different areas. My area uses AIM. I think it could be just bigger cities use AIM and in smaller suburbs and rural areas they use MSN.

[Shadows]

Everyone in my area uses AIM. I had never heard of anyone using anything else until I came here.

[IheartSP]

I live in a rural area and we use AIM

[Shadows]

I live in a rural area and we use AIM
Haha, you're rural.

I'm urban. :upset:

[IheartSP]

i wish iw as urban i hate it here

[Hells Bells]

meh, it's all good, AIM or MSN...maybe I should get AIM though if so many people use it lol. Anyway, Moses I have a question for you. I know you play piano, and I was wondering whether you've ever found any of bodom's keyboard tabs or sheet music. Sheet music would be better, but I know that that's d amn near impossible to find.

[Shadows]

It's not really that great. We have stuff nearby but it's not the nicest place.

[Hells Bells]

The area I live in is technically a part of Toronto, but it's nowhere near the actual city. It's right at the edge of the sprawling suburbs, and pretty well isolated from everything.

[Moses]

I'm urban too. The peers are so much less snobby. I don't think I've ever tried any Bodom but I've never seen any sheet music or tabs for piano. I'll probably look into that. The Bodom keyboardist is the best part of that band for me and I think he pwns Alexi. Never found his stuff to be that hard though.

/shows off.

[IheartSP]

It's so easy to find any sheet music, just get guitar pro.

[Shadows]

It's been proven that Alexi is better than Janne.

[Moses]

When was it proven?

They should have a battle. I would join and pwn them both :lol:.

I feel so braggy right now. I'll upload somthing in a few days to justify it.

[Shadows]

When was it proven?
Everytime they write. Alexi writes all the solos, whether for guitar or keyboards. He writes all of them. Apparently when Alexi writes a keyboard solo ,he composes on guitar, and then has Janne transcribe it for keyboard.

Apparently Janne always has a hard time learning the solos Alexi can play.

[Moses]

Oh, well then my respect for Janne has gone down a bit and he's at the level of Rudess in my book.

It may be because the patterns played on guitar are not easily played on piano and vice versa. Janne should still write his own solo's.

[Shadows]

Someone other than Alexi should write something. Alexi writes EVERYTHING for CoB.

But I still love Janne.

[Hells Bells]

It's so easy to find any sheet music, just get guitar pro.

I have guitar pro, but I can never find any keyboard sheet music :upset:
I know that most of the time Janne just follows what Alexi's doing on the guitar, it's just the solos I'd need.

Oh, well then my respect for Janne has gone down a bit and he's at the level of Rudess in my book.

It may be because the patterns played on guitar are not easily played on piano and vice versa. Janne should still write his own solo's.

Yeah true, not that Alexi isn't a great songwriter, but it would be good to see some input from the other band members.
And what's wrong with Ruddess?

[Moses]

Ruddess is great and has perfect form and everything but he just gets overrated by people who don't play classical or jazz. Ruddess is a grade A musician but there are loads faster than him that I know personally.

I love when keyboards harmonise the guitar. Eargasm.

[IheartSP]

What do you mean no sheet music? Almost all Bodom tabs have keyboard, and any tab is GP is also sheet music if you look 2 inches downwards.

[MRDuCran]

When was it proven?

They should have a battle. I would join and pwn them both :lol:.

I feel so braggy right now. I'll upload somthing in a few days to justify it.

They've had a battle. It's called War of Razors.

[Moses]

I'd be interested in learning the solos.

Maybe we could do one song for the cover thread.... of course my keyboard sucks and my piano would suck to record to.

[Hells Bells]

Meh, fast doesn't really matter much for me. The stuff Tuomas from Nightwish writes isn't technical at all, but it is still incredible.

[MRDuCran]

The CoB guitar/keys battle: War of Razors.

hxxp://s57.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2L6WQAZRV3WGS222BPRL11EAS8

[Hells Bells]

What do you mean no sheet music? Almost all Bodom tabs have keyboard, and any tab is GP is also sheet music if you look 2 inches downwards.

I know that, but they never have the solos. You have to look at sheet music written for the guitar if you want the rest of the keyboard parts.

[Audiopond]

Silent Night Bodom Night is their best IMO. :thumb:

[Moses]

I think Janne won that one.

[MRDuCran]

I think Janne won that one.

Do you mean the guitar/keys battle i uploaded?

[Hells Bells]

It isn't working for me...

Ok nevermind, I've got it. I like the stuff that Janne does at the beginning. Those are some trippy sounding keyboard effects.

[MRDuCran]

Change the hxxp to http.....it's to stop yousendit blocking it.

[Moses]

I liked the last lick Janne did to put Alexi away. Also the stuff in the beginning was cool too.

[Shadows]

Have you guys heard Warmen? I have Beyond Abilities...good stuff. :)

[MRDuCran]

I liked the last lick Janne did to put Alexi away. Also the stuff in the beginning was cool too.

Thats what i thought, that last run was awesome.

[Nostalgia]

Well, I haven't been a COB fan for to long but I downloaded a song called "bed of razors" and absoultley loved it! I picked up a single by them called "trashed lost and strungout" and there tone/keyboards are amazing to me, and not to mention the solos, they are just like wow,oh and another thing is hate crew deathroll good enough to pick up?

[Moses]

Don't pick that one up first. It sounds least like their other stuff.

Try Hatebreeder or Follow the Reaper.

[IheartSP]

Hells Bells, almost all the Bodom guitar pro's I have have the keyboard solo in them, what tab are you looking for?

SilentScream, if you like Bed of Razors you'll love Hatebreeder or Follow the Reaper, but if oyu loved Trashed, Lost & Strungout you'll love Hatecrew Deathroll too.

[Shadows]

I think Follow the Reaper is the universal starting point. It's the most "power metal" out of all Bodom's releases.

[IheartSP]

Hatebreeder is much more powermetal than Follow the Reaper. It has classical influence in pretty much every song, and uses more leads.

[Shadows]

They both have classical, Hatebreeder probably more. But I think Follow the Reaper has more leads and solos than Hatebreeder.

[The Buttloaves]

I have In Your Face and Oops I Did It Again now. In Your Face is pretty nifty. It's starts with a DunDunDun DunDunDun type thing. Then an industrial drumbeat almost. Then a 1 second pause, and Alexi goes "GO", and a Hatebreeder/Downfall type keyboard riff comes in, and under that is a guitar pattern that reminds me of the good ol FTR days. Then out of nowhere comes this Black Label Society/Shadows Fall type riff and the verse reminds me of Slayer, at least the drumbeat, because it's like shuffled, breakneck tempo. They're drifting more and more away from melody and more into industrial me thinks.

[IheartSP]

They both have classical, Hatebreeder probably more. But I think Follow the Reaper has more leads and solos than Hatebreeder.
I think Towards Dead End takes the cake for powermetal songs Bodom has done.

[Shadows]

I think Towards Dead End takes the cake for powermetal songs Bodom has done.
I can't even think of what that song sounds like off the top of my head so I couldn't tell you.

[AA-12]

Can anybody around here do a really good death metal growl?
Yes.

I'm going to type up a small article on metal vocals and how to practice/improve them sometime this weekend. I'll post it in here.

[Shadows]

I would really, really appreciate that. I've been trying to do death metal growling for a very long time with no success, and I could really use it. Most of the music I'd like to write uses a lot of growling and right now I'm working on a death metal cover.

I love you.

[AA-12]

Can you list a few vocalists that you really like, growl wise?

[Shadows]

Growl wise my favorites would have to be...

Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth)
Muhammid Suicmez (Necrophagist)
Sven de Caluwé (Aborted)

I can do a passable Phlegton (Wormed) growl, but that's easy. I really wish I could do a serious growl. Mikael Akerfeldt is probably my favorite.