Avenged Sevenfold

[Arucard]

Right. Before anyone says this, i know there has been several threads on Avenged Sevenfold already, and that is the main point of this thread. If they ever release a new video, or a new song, or somebody is looking for this new video/song, just come and ask in here. As the release of the new album is quickly approaching, i also felt that we needed somewhere for the fans to talk about it, bash it or big it up.

But please, can talk of WTF and STST and which ones better etc, please be kept to a bare minimum. That topic, and the following other topics have been done to death :

Vocals. HE CANNOT SCREAM ANYMORE YOU IDIOTS! SO DONT SAY 'OmgZ! WhyS CaNT HE ScEAm AnyMOre TheRE NoT HxCX No MOre!1!!'

Lyrics. Yes Metalcore kids, we know that you think they suck because they are relativly Power Metal influenced. In my humble opinion, i prefer 'Trashed and scattered again, I'm feelin' so low, you waste your breath while ****in' with me, my blood is so cold' to 'My presence won't be ignored, no not today, don't walk in my direction, turn the other way.' Also, 'JUST KEEP AWAY FROM ME!!!!' isnt exactly the best ever is it?

Anyway, so talk away. This will now be the main discussion area of our beloved Avenged Sevenfold in R+M.

ATTN : NEW SONGS LOCATED HERE :

www.avengedsevenfold.com/cityofevil

[MadMaxwell]

When is their new album dropping exactly? I've heard June but not a specific date. I loved Waking the Fallen, but wasn't a big fan of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet.

[Spiritofmosa]

new stuff is melodic, i like

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Trashed and Scattered is a solid track.... The beast and the Harlot is not something I'm into. That being said, I'll probably still get the album

[Deth]

I prefer The Beast And the Harlot myself and like the new direction that they are taking. My hopes are high for their next album.

[radianteclipse]

I was very anxious to hear their new sound, after hearing so much about it...but I didn't know what to expect really. I like the new sound a lot, and M.Shadow's voice sounds awesome. I never knew he had so many different voices other than the melodic sing and the scream which he can longer do. In some parts he even sounds like Axl Rose, and some parts actually remind me of GNR in a strange sort of way. I cannot wait until this album comes out.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

I own Waking the Fallen, and I guess I pretty much like them. But I stopped liking them a little bit when Syn bashed Alexi Laiho on the A7x board. When someone asked him what he thought of Children of Bodom and Alexi's guitar skills, he replied with "I smell fag breath." That earned him a demerit in my book.

I don't really like anything off the new album. I'm sure I'll end up hearing more of it, but what I've heard so far isn't something I'd really listen to.

[Easyblue]

Never really got into them....

[Arucard]

When is their new album dropping exactly? I've heard June but not a specific date. I loved Waking the Fallen, but wasn't a big fan of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet.

7th of June i belive. Kerrang! had it advertised for the 6th, but the webstie says the 7th.

[Crysiss]

yep, i read because of the vocal technique he used, that caused his throat to get fudged up and he had to take surgery and cannot scream again....sad....but i guess singing will be something different....like a metalcore nevermore...lol jk

[Arucard]

Or you could read the first post.

[south_guitar]

I'm actually not really digging their new sound too much. I like all other Avenged Sevenfold from the demos to Waking the Fallen. However, I've only heard one song from their new album, so I can't really judge at this point.

[easchill]

A7X kick @$$ :thumb:

[Firecracker]

I lurve A7X, their new album is going to rock my socks.

[Arucard]

I'm actually not really digging their new sound too much. I like all other Avenged Sevenfold from the demos to Waking the Fallen. However, I've only heard one song from their new album, so I can't really judge at this point.

Thats because your a HxC kid. :)

[rosenheim]

Avenged Sevenfold started dressing like Good Charlotte. Oh well, I loved Waking the Fallen and STST. The tracks I've heard on the new album are amazing, and I'm going to pick up the album for sure.

[Loser Boy Jay]

Perhaps I just missed it when I read through, but does neone know the name of the new album?

[Shattered_Future]

The name is going to be City Of Evil.

I remember seeing people put up links to the mp3 downloads for COE...can somebody put them up again?

I had the mp3s, but they got deleted...

[Verikansa]

i really like these guys guitar, drums and now bass are great and m shadows still has a good voice i never liked power metal too much but i like the new cd so far and am going to get day it comes out.

[Hot Darn!]

Ehh I am not to sure about their new sound. It sounds a little to poppy tbh.

I listen to very little metalcore /hardcore mind you, so don't go saying "Its because your hxc!!1!1!11"

[south_guitar]

Thats because your a HxC kid. :)

:lol: Not really..

[TheOneThatBleeds]

are all the songs like the beast and the harlot?

[Ghoul Hunter]

I love them. The new album is so heavy compared to the old.

[Ghoul Hunter]

are all the songs like the beast and the harlot?
Every song sounds VERY different.

[cbmartinez]

Avenged Sevenfold have basically been going downhill. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was a hardhitting metalcore album that while it had it's cheese, was really a great, solid album. Waking The Fallen took a drastic step away from metal and is obviously a weaker album in my eyes. It's still repsectable but it didn't touch STST. The new stuff is really lame in my opinion, I see no progression from WTF. I'm not even going to look for elements of STST anymore cause I realize that they are not going to go back to being a metalcore band. But even with that said, the tracks from City Of Evil are lame and definitely weaker than WTF. I'll still buy the album but at this pace, A7X will never top STST or even at this point, WTF.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Avenged Sevenfold have basically been going downhill. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was a hardhitting metalcore album that while it had it's cheese, was really a great, solid album. Waking The Fallen took a drastic step away from metal and is obviously a weaker album in my eyes. It's still repsectable but it didn't touch STST. The new stuff is really lame in my opinion, I see no progression from WTF. I'm not even going to look for elements of STST anymore cause I realize that they are not going to go back to being a metalcore band. But even with that said, the tracks from City Of Evil are lame and definitely weaker than WTF. I'll still buy the album but at this pace, A7X will never top STST or even at this point, WTF.
WTF was way heavier and technically better than STST. I've heard City of Evil, and I promise that you will love it. The technical ability on it blows me away.

[Deth]

Every song sounds VERY different.
Every song? Are you refering to the new album or old tracks, because I've only heard 2 from City Of Evil.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Every song? Are you refering to the new album or old tracks, because I've only heard 2 from City Of Evil.
City of Evil.

[cbmartinez]

WTF was way heavier and technically better than STST. I've heard City of Evil, and I promise that you will love it. The technical ability on it blows me away.

The solos and improved guitar ability were my favorite things about WTF but it is no way a heavier album. Listen to "Turn The Other Way" ith it's brutal screams, double bass and palm muted riffs. Let's compare it to a track on WTF, I'll even go with the most drop tuned song on the album, "Radiant Eclipse," which is in Drop C. Drop D'd "Turn The Other Way," by far, kicks it ***.

[Ghoul Hunter]

The solos and improved guitar ability were my favorite things about WTF but it is no way a heavier album. Listen to "Turn The Other Way" ith it's brutal screams, double bass and palm muted riffs. Let's compare it to a track on WTF, I'll even go with the most drop tuned song on the album, "Radiant Eclipse," which is in Drop C. Drop D'd "Turn The Other Way," by far, kicks it ***.
STST to me wasn't heavy at all. Also, tuning doesn't mean something is heavy or not.

[cbmartinez]

I know but the album is definitely not heavier. The overproduction makes it seem fake and the abum drags on at points, muddy and boring.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I know but the album is definitely not heavier. The overproduction makes it seem fake and the abum drags on at points, muddy and boring.
I don't see any overproduction. I can listen to that album 10 times a day, haha. The problem with STST is Shadows weak vocals and the riffs being the same.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

WTF is more traditional heavy metal sound than STST......

COE has a power metal vibe to it.....

[PeEpHoLe_10]

City of Evil.


Where have you heard all the COE songs?

Also, does anybody know why the Board is down on the Avenged official site?

[Arucard]

Avenged Sevenfold have basically been going downhill. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was a hardhitting metalcore album that while it had it's cheese, was really a great, solid album. Waking The Fallen took a drastic step away from metal and is obviously a weaker album in my eyes. It's still repsectable but it didn't touch STST. The new stuff is really lame in my opinion, I see no progression from WTF. I'm not even going to look for elements of STST anymore cause I realize that they are not going to go back to being a metalcore band. But even with that said, the tracks from City Of Evil are lame and definitely weaker than WTF. I'll still buy the album but at this pace, A7X will never top STST or even at this point, WTF.

Look man FFS! You do this in every single ****ing a7x thread, did you not read the rules i posted in the first post man?! NO ****ING STST vs WTF DISCUSSION. Please take it elsewhere!

[Ghoul Hunter]

Where have you heard all the COE songs?

Also, does anybody know why the Board is down on the Avenged official site?
Live versions from the studio got leaked for about an hour or two before they shut them down.

Also, the board is down because it was like 90% elitists and it was just a ****ty board because of them.

[Deth]

Is it a good album then?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Is it a good album then?
Very.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

I actually played some A7x on my guitar yesterday; Unholy Confessions and Chapter 4. Don't know why I did, actually...

[Ghoul Hunter]

I actually played some A7x on my guitar yesterday; Unholy Confessions and Chapter 4. Don't know why I did, actually...
Because they have amazing riffs?

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Because they have amazing riffs?

I wouldn't say amazing....
I just usually play different stuff and I haven't listened to A7x in a while. It was completely out of the blue.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Their riffs are hardly challenging, but it's the melodies and stuff that really gives you a cool heavy vibe.

The solo from Beast and the Harlot is bloody difficult though, I'm trying to learn it at the moment.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

What I heard from the new album, I didn't like.

[Arucard]

Why is that? Your an obsessive Bodom fan, and they sound more Power Metal than any mainstream band out there today. You should be happy.

[chips88]

I don't think this has been asked, so I'll ask it, where can I hear some tracks off of the new album?

[Arucard]

I think you will find that has been asked several times. and the answer is here :

www.avengedsevenfold.com/cityofevil

Two songs and two video clips of 'Burn It Down.'

[Ghoul Hunter]

I don't think this has been asked, so I'll ask it, where can I hear some tracks off of the new album?
http://avengedsevenfold.com/cityofevil

[chips88]

ok, I didn't see that link anywhere in this thread, but thinks for it anyways.

[Arucard]

Ok, ill post the link in the first post. Sorry for confusion caused.

[clearvision]

So I just went to their website and heard for a first time...

A strange experience i must say, almost like tolkein metal like iced earth/blind gaurdian...but with very very light covals and heavy riffs :confused: I relaly don't know what to think...what is their best pre-surgery-for-vocalist song?

[1omega3]

I saw them live at the Astoria a couple of nights ago, they played several new songs and they sounded really solid. The first single is a track about Las Vegas although I've forgotten the name for now, if I remember I'll add it in. The video's going to be a live one from the gig so you'll get to see that they've very much still got it. All this crap about Shadows letting the band down is purely stupidity, the old stuff sounds better being sung anyway as far as I'm concerned.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Second Heartbeat IMO

[Rothmans]

I didnt see the big hype in this band one or two songs are great but that is as far as it goes.

[Ghoul Hunter]

So I just went to their website and heard for a first time...

A strange experience i must say, almost like tolkein metal like iced earth/blind gaurdian...but with very very light covals and heavy riffs :confused: I relaly don't know what to think...what is their best pre-surgery-for-vocalist song?
Tolkien metal?

[cbmartinez]

Look man FFS! You do this in every single ****ing a7x thread, did you not read the rules i posted in the first post man?! NO ****ING STST vs WTF DISCUSSION. Please take it elsewhere!

Boo ****ing hoo. I guess this is just a thread where you all just sit around creaming yourselves over how good WTF is? It's not the WTF Discussion Thread, it's the A7X discussion thread. I'm going to voice my ****ing opinion no matter how much all of you **** yourselves over WTF.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Boo ****ing hoo. I guess this is just a thread where you all just sit around creaming yourselves over how good WTF is? It's not the WTF Discussion Thread, it's the A7X discussion thread. I'm going to voice my ****ing opinion no matter how much all of you **** yourselves over WTF.
:rolleyes:

Seriously, shut up or go by the rules.

[cbmartinez]

Okay then.

"d00d i wuz listening to "2nd <3beat" yesterday nd it was br00tal"

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Okay then.

"d00d i wuz listening to "2nd <3beat" yesterday nd it was br00tal"

Go spam up another thread dude...... we're just tryin to have adiscussion without people insulting the band.......

[Ghoul Hunter]

Okay then.

"d00d i wuz listening to "2nd <3beat" yesterday nd it was br00tal"
Jesus Christ, shut up.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I saw them live at the Astoria a couple of nights ago, they played several new songs and they sounded really solid. The first single is a track about Las Vegas although I've forgotten the name for now, if I remember I'll add it in. The video's going to be a live one from the gig so you'll get to see that they've very much still got it. All this crap about Shadows letting the band down is purely stupidity, the old stuff sounds better being sung anyway as far as I'm concerned.

I agree here. ****ing up your throat from over-work is hardly letting the band down.

Shadows can still scream, but not to the extent that he did before. Anyway hearing chapter 4 with sung vocals was quite a blast.

[Norma_Jean]

Not to fuel the fire any further, but I have started to completely hate A7X. From the kids around here, I like to compare them to Atreyu - a band that all the "hardcore kids" think is super hardcore (besides the fact that they in no way resemble what hardcore really is), then make sure that everyone around them knows that they listen to "screaming music."

A note to these kids (you know who you are if you're reading) - I hate you and all of your "super scene" type. Please die in a fire.

A note to everyone else - A7X is a decent for what they are, but I have become completely sick of them.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Not to fuel the fire any further, but I have started to completely hate A7X. From the kids around here, I like to compare them to Atreyu - a band that all the "hardcore kids" think is super hardcore (besides the fact that they in no way resemble what hardcore really is), then make sure that everyone around them knows that they listen to "screaming music."

A note to these kids (you know who you are if you're reading) - I hate you and all of your "super scene" type. Please die in a fire.

A note to everyone else - A7X is a decent for what they are, but I have become completely sick of them.
Too bad they aren't even near the hardcore genre now.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Not to fuel the fire any further, but I have started to completely hate A7X. From the kids around here, I like to compare them to Atreyu - a band that all the "hardcore kids" think is super hardcore (besides the fact that they in no way resemble what hardcore really is), then make sure that everyone around them knows that they listen to "screaming music."

A note to these kids (you know who you are if you're reading) - I hate you and all of your "super scene" type. Please die in a fire.

A note to everyone else - A7X is a decent for what they are, but I have become completely sick of them.

Well it won't be screaming music anymore, so this comment is quite irrelevant

[clearvision]

Tolkien metal?

Yeah they sing about LOTR for some strange reason....power metal really i suppose

[Ghoul Hunter]

Yeah they sing about LOTR for some strange reason....power metal really i suppose
They don't sing about LOTR. It is called power metal. The greatest music ever made. :cool:

[clearvision]

Hmm maybe i got my bands confused :confused:...

...no, i did some searching http;//tolkien-music.com says that blind gaurdian have songs called 'lord of the rings', 'gandalfs rebirth' and 'thorn'

They seem pretty tolkien inspired to me...

I may be wrong about iced earth though

[Ghoul Hunter]

Hmm maybe i got my bands confused :confused:...

...no, i did some searching http;//tolkien-music.com says that blind gaurdian have songs called 'lord of the rings', 'gandalfs rebirth' and 'thorn'

They seem pretty tolkien inspired to me...

I may be wrong about iced earth though
I believe they did a LOTR album, but that's not the type of music. It was just a concept album.

[clearvision]

those songs were taken off three different albums...

...but i'm not well versed in power metal so i have no clue why im argueing...

all i know is ICed earths song I died for you has one of the best riffs i have ever heard.

[bassboymike]

I saw them on sunday (22nd) and they were awesome but it was clear shadows was straining when singing stuff off WTF

[Arucard]

Boo ****ing hoo. I guess this is just a thread where you all just sit around creaming yourselves over how good WTF is? It's not the WTF Discussion Thread, it's the A7X discussion thread. I'm going to voice my ****ing opinion no matter how much all of you **** yourselves over WTF.

Dude, this is why i hate you ****ing Hardcore/Emo lot. You dont seem to go by the rules of other peoples forums. Look, i just said i dont want any arguments between which is better, and for your ****ing infomation dick, i prefer STST to WTF, i just dont want mindless spamming a-holes like you to come and hi-jack our thread, which is essentially COE discussion.

Go **** yourself scene kid.

[Arucard]

Okay then.

"d00d i wuz listening to "2nd <3beat" yesterday nd it was br00tal"

I dont think that song is br00tal, and im sure most of the people in here dont either. If i wanted 'br00tal' id listen to Nile or Spawn Of Possesion. But i dont, i want to sit down and listen to some good Metal and have a conversation about a greatly talented bands new album.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

I dont think that song is br00tal, and im sure most of the people in here dont either. If i wanted 'br00tal' id listen to Nile or Spawn Of Possesion. But i dont, i want to sit down and listen to some good Metal and have a conversation about a greatly talented bands new album.

Joe, don't even respond, they seem to leave quicker when ignored

:thumb:

[Arucard]

Maybe so, but im sick of Hardcore/Emo domination. Nice avatar btw.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Does anyone here know where i cant pre-order this album over the net in Australia?
The pre-order thing with the free tee-shirt almost makes me wish i lived in the U.S,haha.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Maybe so, but im sick of Hardcore/Emo domination. Nice avatar btw.

Thanks, yeah, I'm not into the whole hardcore/emo thing either.....

[Huber]

Thanks, yeah, I'm not into the whole hardcore/emo thing either.....

Yeah. The worst thing since wannabe gangsters.

[Arucard]

So, COE comes out on a day i have an exam, so im straight to my record shop to buy it afterwards. Canne wait.

[bassboymike]

So, COE comes out on a day i have an exam, so im straight to my record shop to buy it afterwards. Canne wait.

It comes out the monday of the week i finish my exams so i'm gonna buy it as a well done to myself for getting through the exams lol

[Arucard]

Track im looking forward to hearing all the way through the most = Burn It Down. That riff is sooo DragonForce.

[Deth]

Does anyone here know where i cant pre-order this album over the net in Australia?
The pre-order thing with the free tee-shirt almost makes me wish i lived in the U.S,haha.
Free t-shirt? Where did you see this?

[podbassist]

I like this thread because every time i go on the forums there is a new avenged sevenfold thread, so good job. :thumb:

[Ghoul Hunter]

Track im looking forward to hearing all the way through the most = Burn It Down. That riff is sooo DragonForce.
Interested in having the full track?

[KittensInMicrowaves]

I like this thread because every time i go on the forums there is a new avenged sevenfold thread, so good job. :thumb:

Yeah life is easier when there is an unofficial "official" thread for a band....

As my avatar states, Arnold approves :thumb:

:lol:

[Shattered_Future]

Yeah life is easier when there is an unofficial "official" thread for a band....

As my avatar states, Arnold approves :thumb:

:lol:

Yet still people will continue to make A7X threads...
Ahnolds the man.

[Arucard]

Interested in having the full track?

Actually i am. Thanks alot if you can upload it or something.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Yo! A7X has to be like the best band i've ever heard, but thier new album just isnt them. Its to harmonic or something its more talented but they dont use the same scales or anything on guitar. Thier new stuff is really hard though. Hopefully soon he'll get his voice back and be able to scream again.



My favorite songs by them has to be......................... the whole I wont see you tonight, darkness surrounding, waken the fallen which isnt even a song, radiant eclipse, and clairvoyant disease, and just to add i can play that whloe CD.

~Zack~

[Kage]

I hate it when bands don't use the same scales over and over in every single song. Also, when they change keys, it's really annoying!

[Huber]

I hate it when bands don't use the same scales over and over in every single song. Also, when they change keys, it's really annoying!

Sarcasm, yes?

Come on, that's a tad un-called for.

[nicksilver101]

I really enjoy A7X, and await there new cd to drop, but from the first song beast and the harlot I got a bad impression. It's an alrite song but, "she's a drowning place for demons."

[chips88]

Dude, this is why i hate you ****ing Hardcore/Emo lot. You dont seem to go by the rules of other peoples forums. Look, i just said i dont want any arguments between which is better, and for your ****ing infomation dick, i prefer STST to WTF, i just dont want mindless spamming a-holes like you to come and hi-jack our thread, which is essentially COE discussion.

Go **** yourself scene kid.

But please, can talk of WTF and STST and which ones better etc, please be kept to a bare minimum.

Um, say what again? He was just saying something, he wasn't spamming, nor was he shoving it in anybody's face or trying to start an argument, he was just discussing, same as everyone else. I also don't get where you generalize about the hardcore forum or any of it's members, they don't break the rules more than anyone else, in face, probably less so than you "metal kids", to be stereotypical.

Anyways, to get back on topic, I heard they made a track about Hunter Thompson titled Bat Country, or something like that, and then a week later he died.

[Kage]

Sarcasm, yes?

Come on, that's a tad un-called for.
Yes, sarcasm.

Maybe a little harsh, but it annoys me when people think the only scale in the world is the harmonic minor.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Yes, sarcasm.

Maybe a little harsh, but it annoys me when people think the only scale in the world is the harmonic minor.
It is the best scale though IMO.

[ACircuitShock]

I allready loved A7X, but their new stuff blows me away. I love how I watched them progress from a decent hardcore band to a good metalcore-ish band and now they just are rocking the whole melodic/power metal. Does anyone hear the Iron Maiden in thier guitar work? Specifically the solos? I always thought I heard it but now I hear it way more in there new stuff. Especially in Trashed and Scattered... good stuff. Anyway, can wait for the CD, super talented band.

[Kage]

It is the best scale though IMO.
Far from it. It's an extremely basic scale. That doesn't go to say that great music can't be made from it, but there's so much more that can be done.

Hell, just add two more notes and you've got a blues scale in the same key, which adds a lot more color.

[Huber]

Yes, sarcasm.

Maybe a little harsh, but it annoys me when people think the only scale in the world is the harmonic minor.

It was his first post, give him a break.

[Arucard]

Um, say what again? He was just saying something, he wasn't spamming, nor was he shoving it in anybody's face or trying to start an argument, he was just discussing, same as everyone else. I also don't get where you generalize about the hardcore forum or any of it's members, they don't break the rules more than anyone else, in face, probably less so than you "metal kids", to be stereotypical.

Anyways, to get back on topic, I heard they made a track about Hunter Thompson titled Bat Country, or something like that, and then a week later he died.

Look man, that topic has been discussed to death. If you could do some kind of post topic search, i think you would turn up around 1000 posts 'discussing' which album is better.

[Arucard]

Yo! A7X has to be like the best band i've ever heard, but thier new album just isnt them. Its to harmonic or something its more talented but they dont use the same scales or anything on guitar. Thier new stuff is really hard though. Hopefully soon he'll get his voice back and be able to scream again.



My favorite songs by them has to be......................... the whole I wont see you tonight, darkness surrounding, waken the fallen which isnt even a song, radiant eclipse, and clairvoyant disease, and just to add i can play that whloe CD.

~Zack~

In regards to his voice, read the rules of the thread. Chances are, hes never screaming again buddy. In regards to the 'their new album just isnt them,' well yes, it obviously is, they have just had a change in direction. They changed direction after STST no one said, 'ooh man, they've changed.'

In regards to the playing the whole album, recordingsplzkthxbi.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

In regards to his voice, read the rules of the thread. Chances are, hes never screaming again buddy. In regards to the 'their new album just isnt them,' well yes, it obviously is, they have just had a change in direction. They changed direction after STST no one said, 'ooh man, they've changed.'

In regards to the playing the whole album, recordingsplzkthxbi.

It isnt them though like listen to thier old stuff then their new stuff. I didn't mean that literally you retard. So you say he's never scraming again well have you talked to him lately(of course he cant scream anymore he had like 3 operations, but that doesn't mean he doesnt want to scream again), and i will send you recordings if you want.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

I prefer The Beast And the Harlot myself and like the new direction that they are taking. My hopes are high for their next album.
Yea my hopes are very high too, but i wasn't feelin Beast and the harlot very much

[Ghoul Hunter]

Far from it. It's an extremely basic scale. That doesn't go to say that great music can't be made from it, but there's so much more that can be done.

Hell, just add two more notes and you've got a blues scale in the same key, which adds a lot more color.
Meh, I guess.

I basically have a neo classical feel to all of my music, so that's why I like it.

[Arucard]

It isnt them though like listen to thier old stuff then their new stuff. I didn't mean that literally you retard. So you say he's never scraming again well have you talked to him lately(of course he cant scream anymore he had like 3 operations, but that doesn't mean he doesnt want to scream again), and i will send you recordings if you want.

Neither did i, i was just stating bands can change and evolve. Look at Metallica. On the Black Album, people said they sol out, but no one said 'it wasnt mettallica anymore.'

[Shattered_Future]

Neither did i, i was just stating bands can change and evolve. Look at Metallica. On the Black Album, people said they sol out, but no one said 'it wasnt mettallica anymore.'

If i didn't know that was Avenged Sevenfold, i would've thought it was another band...they really changed their sound a lot.

For the better as well, i think

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Ah yes, the power metal contingent seems to like the change.... I prefer the old but will learn to like the new I suppose..... I need to hear more of it

[Arucard]

If i didn't know that was Avenged Sevenfold, i would've thought it was another band...they really changed their sound a lot.

For the better as well, i think

Yah, all they need is keys and they'd be a straight up Power band. And Joe loves it!

[Moses]

Ah yes, the power metal contingent seems to like the change.... I prefer the old but will learn to like the new I suppose..... I need to hear more of it
To like Power Metal you gotta get into the song, like you know, feel the power.....

[Jon]

I haven't ever listened to them.

I always assumed they were Yellowcard-alikes, maybe I should listen?

[Huber]

I haven't ever listened to them.

I always assumed they were Yellowcard-alikes, maybe I should listen?

Nothing like Yellowcard man. Give em' a listen.

[Huber]

Ah yes, the power metal contingent seems to like the change.... I prefer the old but will learn to like the new I suppose..... I need to hear more of it

Do you listen to Power Metal? That might help too...

[Ghoul Hunter]

I haven't ever listened to them.

I always assumed they were Yellowcard-alikes, maybe I should listen?
Jon, you'd like them. They are nothing like Yellowcard at all. They have a ****load of powermetal influence.

[Jon]

Heh, this is cool (Remenissions)

Its just you see all the emokids listening to them.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Heh, this is cool (Remenissions)

Its just you see all the emokids listening to them.
Haha, yeah.

Listen to some songs on http://www.avengedsevenfold.com/cityofevil

[Jon]

Ok.

I can hear the Helloween though.

I can also hear some fag screaming :(

[Ghoul Hunter]

Don't like this singer? I think he's amazing, heh.

[Huber]

Yeah, Shadows is awesome, bursted vessel or not.

[Jon]

You call that singing?

[Huber]

You call that singing?

Dude, what are you listening to? Much of A7X is awesome clean singing.

[Shattered_Future]

I wouldn't say awesome...

On Trashed And Scattered, Shadows's voice is SO unbelievably nasaly...its freaking annoying.

He busts out great vocals on some songs though.

[Huber]

I wouldn't say awesome...

On Trashed And Scattered, Shadows's voice is SO unbelievably nasaly...its freaking annoying.

He busts out great vocals on some songs though.

Singing none-the-less

[Shattered_Future]

Singing none-the-less

Yes, but on their previous 2 releases, there was an equal, if not more, amount of screaming.

[Arucard]

Singing none-the-less

Dude, Low is such a good album! I listen to it every morning to wake me up! The intro's are so good!

[Ghoul Hunter]

I wouldn't say awesome...

On Trashed And Scattered, Shadows's voice is SO unbelievably nasaly...its freaking annoying.

He busts out great vocals on some songs though.
That's the point on the vocals.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

ARGH, i cant find anywhere to order COE over the net in Australia.... i really wanted to have it the day it came out.

[i am the robots]

Right. Before anyone says this, i know there has been several threads on Avenged Sevenfold already, and that is the main point of this thread. If they ever release a new video, or a new song, or somebody is looking for this new video/song, just come and ask in here. As the release of the new album is quickly approaching, i also felt that we needed somewhere for the fans to talk about it, bash it or big it up.

But please, can talk of WTF and STST and which ones better etc, please be kept to a bare minimum. That topic, and the following other topics have been done to death :

Vocals. HE CANNOT SCREAM ANYMORE YOU IDIOTS! SO DONT SAY 'OmgZ! WhyS CaNT HE ScEAm AnyMOre TheRE NoT HxCX No MOre!1!!'

Lyrics. Yes Metalcore kids, we know that you think they suck because they are relativly Power Metal influenced. In my humble opinion, i prefer 'Trashed and scattered again, I'm feelin' so low, you waste your breath while ****in' with me, my blood is so cold' to 'My presence won't be ignored, no not today, don't walk in my direction, turn the other way.' Also, 'JUST KEEP AWAY FROM ME!!!!' isnt exactly the best ever is it?

Anyway, so talk away. This will now be the main discussion area of our beloved Avenged Sevenfold in R+M.

ATTN : NEW SONGS LOCATED HERE :

www.avengedsevenfold.com/cityofevil

Actually he can, but he's not very good at it anymore, mostly cause his lungs aren't strong enough anymore, but he's recovering, and will be able to sometime in the next few years.

[taztonik]

Actually he can, but he's not very good at it anymore, mostly cause his lungs aren't strong enough anymore, but he's recovering, and will be able to sometime in the next few years.

jeesus. maybe he can scream. maybe he cant. who cares. if he can.. YAY. if he cant.... then theres so many different options. You can have other band members scream. and at least on the album they could take the growls that he does when theres a guitar riff from the screaming tracks on the old albums. thats not hard.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Actually he can, but he's not very good at it anymore, mostly cause his lungs aren't strong enough anymore, but he's recovering, and will be able to sometime in the next few years.
He has permanent damage to his lungs, and will NEVER scream again. If he tries it anymore it will completely kill his voice.

[i am the robots]

jeesus. maybe he can scream. maybe he cant. who cares. if he can.. YAY. if he cant.... then theres so many different options. You can have other band members scream. and at least on the album they could take the growls that he does when theres a guitar riff from the screaming tracks on the old albums. thats not hard.

What the ****?

That was the most unfounded and retarded flame ever. I was mearly correcting Joe on information, soley on the fact that false information is bad, I am, sorry that you cannot comprehend a person respectfully correcting another, and therefore I leave you this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Eleventeen3/Miscelleneous/flamemasterflash.jpg

[i am the robots]

He has permanent damage to his lungs, and will NEVER scream again. If he tries it anymore it will completely kill his voice.

Where did you get this info?

And if I was wrong, I am very sorry for falsely informing others, but that is what I have heard.

[Arucard]

Meh, i heard he cant scream anymore, and judging by the interviews, they dont want to anymore. I qoute :

'The Metalcore thing is getting old.'

ATTN : Kerrang! gave COE 5 K's. Good news.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Where did you get this info?

And if I was wrong, I am very sorry for falsely informing others, but that is what I have heard.
I know some people who went to that thing Avenged Sevenfold had, where like 20 people got to go be in the studio with them and ask questions to the band.

[Kingofdudes]

Beast and Harlot is very good :eek:

I will most likely be picking up their new album

[Arucard]

Wooh, a classic rock convert! That means we fans can boost our respect levels! It is an awesome song isnt it.

[Firecracker]

One of the reasons they don't scream anymore, because Shadows' vocal chords bled in one of their tours after Waking The Fallen.

Beast & The Harlot is one decent track.

[Kingofdudes]

Wooh, a classic rock convert! That means we fans can boost our respect levels! It is an awesome song isnt it.

Yeah, I love the guitar work in it. (Just so you know, I have always been a fan of metal)

[Moses]

My god, the live video was excellent. I think they were playing the studio tracks behind it, but still. Holy crap I was already excited to hear the new album but now that I saw Burn It Down I'm so stoked to get it. I always thought he was an average singer at best but now I can tell he's had some professional training, impressive stuff on Burn It Down.

I wanna go play guitar now. :thumb:

[Untracked]

I truly think that the new album will really broaden thier fan base and truly give them the respect they deffinetly deserve

Oh and by the way Beast and the harlot is a amazing song in all respects

AX7

[Sleeper]

When Waking The Fallen came out alot of people started listening to them, I remember no one knew who they were when Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was out.

[azbassman]

When Waking The Fallen came out alot of people started listening to them, I remember no one knew who they were when Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was out.
Yeah i mean i knew who they were i started out with STST...but your right not a lot of people knew about them...i dont know how people found out about them probably people recomended them

[taztonik]

What the ****?

That was the most unfounded and retarded flame ever. I was mearly correcting Joe on information, soley on the fact that false information is bad, I am, sorry that you cannot comprehend a person respectfully correcting another, and therefore I leave you this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Eleventeen3/Miscelleneous/flamemasterflash.jpg

wait wait wait... you missunderstood me. that wasnt supposed to be a flame. that wasnt directed to you. i was just trying to make a point that it doesnt really matter if he can scream or not... if he cant there are ways for the band to get around it without dumping shadows. sorry for any disrespect. i didnt mean it that way

[Hard_Rocker_Revived]

Beast and Harlot is very good :eek:

I will most likely be picking up their new album

I agree it's cool. I mainly like the way it contains none of the screaming so abundant in Waking the Fallen. I still think A7X is one of the few bands I like that some could label "screamo."

[Arucard]

They have boi enmo elemetn atall. I still think bea of the harloite if a hrrccore track.

[Ghoul Hunter]

They have boi enmo elemetn atall. I still think bea of the harloite if a hrrccore track.
^^Drugs are bad kids^^

[Shattered_Future]

I heard about them from some pamphlet thing that came with a Thrice cd...

I downloaded one of their songs, Second Heartbeat...i thought it was pretty pedestrian. Then the solo started, and i was just dumbstruck.

Went out and bought WTF next day...soon afterwards bought STST...

I prefer WTF over the other...i don't know why. It just seems the music quality is so much higher than on STST...every track has its place, and clicks.

[taztonik]

I heard about them from some pamphlet thing that came with a Thrice cd...

I downloaded one of their songs, Second Heartbeat...i thought it was pretty pedestrian. Then the solo started, and i was just dumbstruck.

Went out and bought WTF next day...soon afterwards bought STST...

I prefer WTF over the other...i don't know why. It just seems the music quality is so much higher than on STST...every track has its place, and clicks.

very true... everything is more intricate

[Sleeper]

Yeah i mean i knew who they were i started out with STST...but your right not a lot of people knew about them...i dont know how people found out about them probably people recomended them
The Unholy Confessions video got them popular.

[i am the robots]

News Flash: Avenged Sevenfold is not popular, they are just a bit more well known than other metal bands.

[taztonik]

News Flash: Avenged Sevenfold is not popular, they are just a bit more well known than other metal bands.

agreed. but i really think that COE is a lot more mainstream. I wouldnt be suprised to see them become really mainstream and popular kinda like rise against. a few years ago none of my friends had heard of them. now theyre on mtv and the radio. And i mean the pop rock simple plan/good charlotte stations. I wouldnt be suprised if avenged sevenfold turned like that

[Ghoul Hunter]

agreed. but i really think that COE is a lot more mainstream. I wouldnt be suprised to see them become really mainstream and popular kinda like rise against. a few years ago none of my friends had heard of them. now theyre on mtv and the radio. And i mean the pop rock simple plan/good charlotte stations. I wouldnt be suprised if avenged sevenfold turned like that
They won't. Obviously, they are going away from what most bands sound like.

[taztonik]

They won't. Obviously, they are going away from what most bands sound like.

i really hope not. but to me the sound that theyve migrated to is a lot more mainstream then the sound theyre trying to get away from.

[Ghoul Hunter]

i really hope not. but to me the sound that theyve migrated to is a lot more mainstream then the sound theyre trying to get away from.
The old Metalcore was pretty mainstream/usual. Now they have a power metal sound, which isn't mainstream at all.

[Sleeper]

agreed. but i really think that COE is a lot more mainstream. I wouldnt be suprised to see them become really mainstream and popular kinda like rise against. a few years ago none of my friends had heard of them. now theyre on mtv and the radio. And i mean the pop rock simple plan/good charlotte stations. I wouldnt be suprised if avenged sevenfold turned like that
City of evil is going to be very mainstream sounding, It will prolly be one of the most popular albums this year.

[taztonik]

The old Metalcore was pretty mainstream/usual. Now they have a power metal sound, which isn't mainstream at all.

but i never hear metalcore on the radio wheras there are a few metalica/AIC/GNR ish stations.

i donno... i guess it really doesnt matter if theyre mainstream or not

its just that i liked their metalcore stuff better. Especially on WTF. Its not as metalcore as the STST. The music are more technical and more mature. Like on I Wont See You Tonight. To me thats my favorite song ever. There isnt any screaming in that song but it still seems a world different to me from the new stuff. But thats just my personal opinion

[Ghoul Hunter]

but i never hear metalcore on the radio wheras there are a few metalica/AIC/GNR ish stations.

i donno... i guess it really doesnt matter if theyre mainstream or not

its just that i liked their metalcore stuff better. Especially on WTF. Its not as metalcore as the STST. The music are more technical and more mature. Like on I Wont See You Tonight. To me thats my favorite song ever. There isnt any screaming in that song but it still seems a world different to me from the new stuff. But thats just my personal opinion
Yeah, the technical aspect of them is getting better. One of the main reasons COE will be great is that the technical part of the band is higher on this album than all the others.

[taztonik]

Yeah, the technical aspect of them is getting better. One of the main reasons COE will be great is that the technical part of the band is higher on this album than all the others.

Yea thats really what im looking forward too. Their technique keeps getting amazingly better and better.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I am really pumped for this new album.June 7 couldnt come quicker for me.

To keep discussions going heres a question...I know its not really plausible to guess how good a song will be from its name only, but what do you guys estimate the best/ one of the best songs will be from COE just by looking at the song titles?
I like the look of Seize the day. Sounds like it could be one of those inspirational songs like I wont see you tonight or along those lines.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Some of the stuff in here sounds promising:

"It’s not always recognized in today’s “I want it all now” world, but patience is a virtue. And Huntington Beach, California rockers Avenged Sevenfold are being rewarded for remembering that golden rule. After releasing two highly successful albums on an indie label (Sounding The Seventh Trumpet and Waking The Fallen), the quintet is set to unleash its major label debut, City Of Evil, on Warner Bros. Records. City Of Evil, co-produced by Avenged Sevenfold, reunites the group with producer Mudrock (Waking The Fall).

“We’re at the point now where we’ve come into our own,” vocalist M. Shadows says of the ambitious City Of Evil, an 11-song collection that gives a middle finger to the idea of categorization, bridging the sonic guitar assault of Iron Maiden with the frenetic pace of Bad Religion and the musicianship of Dream Theater. “In Southern California you’re really brought up in the whole punk world. At the same time, we were growing up listening to Pantera, Megadeath, Metallica and Slayer records,” Shadows recalls. “So then you think, ‘I want to play in that kind of band, but I want to play in this kind of band.’ Then you pass that point and all of a sudden you’re just writing music and it comes out naturally. But that’s what happens cause of all the different influences we have. And we’re definitely not afraid to put anything in our songs if we think it calls for it.”

Yes, Avenged Sevenfold can rock, as the band recently did at a sold-out show at Hollywood’s Music Box Theater, where they turned the intensity of the new tunes up from 11 to about a 20, but these are musicians as well. However, as the group evidenced during the orchestral interlude in “The Wicked End,” a perfect metal moment live complemented by a boys choir and 14-piece string section, Avenged Sevenfold, in the tradition of Zeppelin, Queen, and Guns ‘N’ Roses’ “November Rain,” meld their intensity with a musical daring their hard rock forefathers would be proud of.

Those looking primarily for a cathartic release live, as so many of the kids moshing their brains out at the Music Box were, need only turn to the ferocious energy of “Bat Country,” a song written for Hunter S. Thompson about the band’s own adventures in Vegas, and the Maiden-esque guitar and Shadows’ perfect caterwaul of the line “city of evil” (where the album’s title stems from) in the opening “Beast & The Harlot.”

And while Avenged, whose influences range from Maiden, Pantera, and Guns ‘N’ Roses (Shadows calls Use Your Illusions 1 and 2 his favorite albums of all time) to Billy Joel, Queen, and Elvis Costello, may not be your typical hard rock band musically, they can hang with the best of them. Epic nights of late night fun have followed this band around the country, and it’s something all of the members freely acknowledge. They like to party, and they like to drink: and plenty. Additionally, and fitting with their chosen lifestyle, the members of Avenged could write the A7X equivalent of the Zagut guide to strip clubs in America.

“Strippers and bands have this bond,” Vengeance says. “They totally do. The band walks in and it’s like special treatment,” Shadows adds. So, what makes a good strip club? “I like strip clubs that are out of control,” he says, citing Vegas, New York and New Orleans (“It’s ****ing Bourbon Street. It better be crazy,” he says) as home to some of the better establishments they’ve frequented.

Reflecting the complex personalities though that can lead a hard rock band to throw in a beautiful Flamenco guitar solo near the end of the new album’s savage “Sidewinder,” Avenged Sevenfold is far from just a party band, and it shows on City Of Evil. The album is bursting with displays of their virtuoso musicianship, from the intricate tempo changes of “Burn It Down” to the tender acoustic intro into a Spaghetti Western mixed with classical melody that provides the calm before the storm in the savage “Strength Of The World.”

The group has learned a great deal having spent the last three summers as part of the Warped tour. Shadows got some valuable advice from Fat Mike of NOFX, besides how to play Texas Hold ‘Em. “He’s like, ‘You know what, if you do this stuff long enough, you gotta ****ing have fun. If you can’t have fun on tour then you’ll never last,’” Shadows recalls. “I think that’s a really important thing.”

Additionally, the quintet, which started on a Warped side stage, graduated to the second stage, and then made the move last year to main stage, a spot they’ll be returning to this year, learned a lot by the gradual progression. “We’ve seen bands that we started out with that got a little bit of a head start or an early break and they’re done. We’ve learned so much more doing it from the ground up. We’ve got so many more stories than other bands will have; so many more good times, bad times. It has made us stronger as a band too,” Vengeance says.

Hard work is what also accounts for the band’s fiercely loyal following, according to Shadows. “It’s rewarding ‘cause you know you have this really solid core fan base that has been through a lot and they believe in the band now as more than a band, it’s like a lifestyle,” he says. “If anything happens we don’t ever fall, it’s like they’re holding us up. We’re not on the radio, but everywhere we go we always have this rabid group of fans. We would’ve never had that if we had some lucky break and just jumped to the point we’re at now. I hope it gradually keeps going up. The slower you go the more I think it builds underneath you and we’re grateful for that. They can’t just get pulled out from underneath us. There’s nothing you can grab to pull; it’s fans that love that band. So, it’s very gratifying to be at this place now.”

[PeEpHoLe_10]

No one cares??

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Bump/

Surley someone has something to say

[Ultimate Donky]

I still can't get over how much crappier Shadows' vocals have gotten(and yes, i'm fully aware of the reason why). His voice is so obnoxiously nasal that it's hard to listen to sometimes. And wtf is with the rapping on Trashed and Scattered? Oh well, i'll probably still buy it, just because I love Waking the Fallen and the other one wasn't bad either, but so far it isn't looking nearly as good. Musically it isn't sounding bad, but the vocals could ruin some good sounding songs here. Oh well, we'll see.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

^^^
Give it some more time...you might get used to his vocals. It took me a few listens, but now i really like his new style.

[Ultimate Donky]

I hope you're right. It's just weird hearing one of your favorite vocalists losing a lot of his ability. I'm not one of the hardcore kids that are like "HE DOESN'T SCRAEM NEMORE THIS SUX!!!!!", I actually greatly prefer his singing and Hetfield-style voice. Just the obnoxiously nasal voice bugs the hell out of me. Like on The Beast and the Harlot, I actually like the rest of the song a lot, but his voice in the chorus just kills it for me.

On a similar note, I showed my little brother how to play that easy badass Metallica-esque riff on Eternal Rest, he thinks he's all badass now. Aren't kids great.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I can definatley see your point of view,but seeings though he is one of your favourite vocalists you should really try and adjust to it, and anways if you can't theres always the great music. I love the solo in Beast and the Harlot. Maybe you should teach your brother thats, hehe.

[Arucard]

Meh, i still think that his vocals are good. And rapping? Where the hell was he rapping?

[Moses]

I hope you're right. It's just weird hearing one of your favorite vocalists losing a lot of his ability. I'm not one of the hardcore kids that are like "HE DOESN'T SCRAEM NEMORE THIS SUX!!!!!", I actually greatly prefer his singing and Hetfield-style voice. Just the obnoxiously nasal voice bugs the hell out of me. Like on The Beast and the Harlot, I actually like the rest of the song a lot, but his voice in the chorus just kills it for me.

On a similar note, I showed my little brother how to play that easy badass Metallica-esque riff on Eternal Rest, he thinks he's all badass now. Aren't kids great.
I think he got training since his injury, it certainly sounds like it.

[i am the robots]

Can anybody understand that after injuries people recover? GIVE HIM SOME TIME **** IT.

[Moses]

Can anybody understand that after injuries people recover? GIVE HIM SOME TIME **** IT.
Was that directed towards me, because I'm actually stateing the fact that his voice sounds better.

[i am the robots]

Was that directed towards me, because I'm actually stateing the fact that his voice sounds better.

do not worry young one, that was targetted at the young man complaining of his nasal voice.

[Moses]

I figured.

[i am the robots]

I figured.
:p young one

[Moses]

:p young one
What if I was like thirty five.

[Arucard]

:p young one

That spam, and linked with the fact i will kill you because of your avatar, get out of the thread beotch. Or ill report you1!!1!!1One!!

[Ghoul Hunter]

Okay guys. The album leaked last night, and all I have to say is that it's amazing. Every track is great. It's way better than their past releases. To the people who say Shadows can't sing good on the new songs, this is by far his best album vocal wise. The guitar, bass, and drums really shine on this one too.

[Arucard]

Agreed, i just got sent 'Burn It Down' and 'Bat Country.' The drumming, guitar, vocals and bass are better than ever before.

[Moses]

Okay guys. The album leaked last night, and all I have to say is that it's amazing. Every track is great. It's way better than their past releases. To the people who say Shadows can't sing good on the new songs, this is by far his best album vocal wise. The guitar, bass, and drums really shine on this one too.
Like I said, I think he got vocal training while he was recovering.

[Moses]

OMFG I'm listening to it leaked right now and there's one thing I can say: ALBUM OF THE ****ING YEAR.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

:upset: I'd kill for broadband right about now.
I cant wait for this to come out. :)

[PeEpHoLe_10]

:upset: I'd kill for broadband right about now.
I cant wait for this to come out.

[Magicaltroll]

The new album rules.

That's all I have to say about it.

[taztonik]

wait... im confused. leaked? whats that?

[Huber]

Somehow the album was stolen and put onto various torrents and P2P programs like Kazaa and Limewire. It "leaked" onto the internet.

[Carn]

hehe..fun thing..Avenged couldnt even sell out half a venue over here..so they're giving away tickets like mad..and people I know who got a free ticket arent going because they just dont care..haha

[KittensInMicrowaves]

hehe..fun thing..Avenged couldnt even sell out half a venue over here..so they're giving away tickets like mad..and people I know who got a free ticket arent going because they just dont care..haha

They're still not a huge name dude...... I certainly wouldn't pass up a free ticket to see them

[Arucard]

hehe..fun thing..Avenged couldnt even sell out half a venue over here..so they're giving away tickets like mad..and people I know who got a free ticket arent going because they just dont care..haha

And you are an idiot. Hehe, another funny thing GET THE **** OUT OF OUR THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Neither did i, i was just stating bands can change and evolve. Look at Metallica. On the Black Album, people said they sol out, but no one said 'it wasnt mettallica anymore.'

Yea I know that bands evolve and all but A7X really evloved alot. I mean not counting vocally cause Shadows can't help it , but musically too.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

hehe..fun thing..Avenged couldnt even sell out half a venue over here..so they're giving away tickets like mad..and people I know who got a free ticket arent going because they just dont care..haha

Dude WTF is wrong with you. A7X is probably one of the most talented bands that i've ever heard, how could you just give up tix. Thier probably better than any ***** *** band that u listen to.

[Phototropic]

I had a copy of their album off my mate, he said it's the new album I'm not sure though

The first track is kinda indian sounding, then chilled drums come in?!

Could someone please identify the album for me :)

Great sounding band :thumb:

[Firecracker]

Waking the Fallen is a brilliant album, and i hope city of evil is even better.

[taztonik]

yea... the instruments keep getting better and better on each cd

[Ultimate Donky]

City of Evil is straight badass. After getting over the initial disappointment of Shadows' voice being different, the rest of it is vastly superior to any of their other albums. This thing is great. Shadows now sounds Axl Rose-esque instead of Hetfield-esque, and it took me a few songs to get used to, but now it sounds really good. The extreme nasal stuff still bugs me a little but everything else about this album is excellent. I'll be listening to this for a while.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Waking the Fallen is a brilliant album, and i hope city of evil is even better.
COE is way better.

[Arucard]

'My fingers on the trigger, im ready to ignite.'

Good ol' Bat Country.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Ok, i have now heard 5 songs off this album and love it. Is that Shadows singing on Bat Country, because his scream sounds really different if it is him.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Ok, i have now heard 5 songs off this album and love it. Is that Shadows singing on Bat Country, because his scream sounds really different if it is him.
That's him.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Wow, he sounds really different. I didnt think if he was going to scream on this album that they would sound so different.b
Im taking it you guys have heard all the songs off the album? Is there a standout/s?

[Moses]

I like the Wicked End, the orchestral part is really cool.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Ohh i really want to hear that song. From what songs i have heard i probably like Sieze the Day most.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Sieze the Day, Betrayed, and Bat Country are the best.

[Ultimate Donky]

I like Betrayed and Bat Country the best too.

[Carn]

The extreme nasal stuff bugs me

Yep. Plus the fact that half of the time the dude sounds like he can hardly reach his notes. This album is a major letdown, and a very poor imitation of decent powermetal bands. But I bet it will be a big hit with the mallcore kids who are refused to buy cds with angry men screaming.

[Arucard]

Its not a rip-off of Power Metal bands, i think its just a different angle on metal. It doesnt sound like a carbon copy of Iced Earth like most PM bands do, so go them.

[Carn]

well, its its a "different angle", than I consider it one of the poorest views you can have on modern metal music. I'dd rather hear the last Dragonforce or the new Painmuseum.

[Sep]

From the two downloadable songs off their website, I think "Trashed And Scattered" is faaar better than "The Beast And The Harlot". Both songs are very good musically, and the vocals are really cool some of the time but sound almost ridiculous at other parts.
I think I'll download this and buy it if it's any good.

[Carn]

omg..some of the guitarsolos are just..so....argh! thank god for dragonforce saving my day :P

http://www.noiserecords.com/downloads/DragonForce@www.noiserecords.com-My_Spirit_Will_Go_On.mp3

I`ll stop pissing on Avenged..they totally lost it for me.

[Arucard]

Dude, do you think were dumb or something? I probably know more about Power Metal than you, yet you come in acting all high and mighty trying to promote DragonForce, probably the most mainstream PM band out at the minute.

[Carn]

hush hush, who said that post was aimed at you? If you want to go act "Mr. Metal" on me you`ll have a tough cookie. I was just pointing out the fact that there are bands out there who play "similar" kind of music on a much higher, less corny and crappy level. I`ll let you enjoy Mallcore Sevenfold.

[Arucard]

Good lord, you sound like Lord Dargon, the biggest elitist of all time. Take the music for what it is idiot, their not claiming to be an underground act, their music that they want to.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

hush hush, who said that post was aimed at you? If you want to go act "Mr. Metal" on me you`ll have a tough cookie. I was just pointing out the fact that there are bands out there who play "similar" kind of music on a much higher, less corny and crappy level. I`ll let you enjoy Mallcore Sevenfold.

Mallcore is a stupid term and shouldn't be used to criticize a band....

[Carn]

For all I care they are the reincarnations of dimebag, hendrix and schuldiner combined, but City of Evil brings totally nothing new to the table. And (here it comes), in my opinion its a weak effort from an already quite mediocre "metalcore" band. It has a few nice riffs but its about as enjoyable as Blink 182 trying to cover Death. I can't see ANYTHING that appeals to me on a musical level. Maybe I`m one of the few "who just dont get it", but so be it. And If you consider my previous post to be elitist, you should look at your own posts first...

[Carn]

Mallcore is a stupid term and shouldn't be used to criticize a band....

Fashioncore, Mallcore..I dont care, its my term to describe weak metal with backstreetboys vocals.

[Arucard]

Lets consider some things :

These guys are so young. So young, and they still manage to make quality metal that is also relativly orginal. All these 'good' Power Metal bands you talk of have members in their 30's and 40's.

The music is actually really good, i dont understand how such talent and skill can be described as mallcore. Since when did Blink 182 and Good Charlotte use such incredible solo runs and muted riffs in their music?

Your a dick.

[Carn]

Since when has age anything to do with being a good musician? There are enough young guys out there who play at that level, if not higher. Does that mean it automatically means that their music kicks ***? Hannes Grossman (drummer for Necrophagist) is 22 and runs circles around practically every metal drummer in his genre, let alone from the same age. Does that mean Necrophagist is a kick *** band that should be loved by everyone?

[Deth]

Carn, you are being a douche, just leave the people who care alone so we can have a decent conversation.

[Arucard]

I meant that they have slightly different musical priorities to other bands. And w/e, this argument is getting us no-where, so you win.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Fashioncore, Mallcore..I dont care, its my term to describe weak metal with backstreetboys vocals.

Last time I checked, Backstreet Boys didn't use screamed vocals... A7X only stopped screaming cuz the dude hurt his throat, give him a break.....

A7X aren't the best out there, but they have some skilled musicians

[Ghoul Hunter]

Carn shut up.

You realize that Dragonforce is one of the most talented bands around? Avenged Sevenfold isn't trying to be power metal, they just sound like it. They are a great band, even if they aren't a Dragonforce.

[Carn]

Ah well, its not my loss, hehe. Anyone in Holland who wants my spot on the list for A7X tonight? ;)

[Ghoul Hunter]

You need to stop the elitism.

[Carn]

hey im not kidding :D

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I knw im late, but i don't care, i havent been on for a few days.Besides Beast and the Harlot, Avengend don't really sound like power metal at all. From the new songs that i have heard all of them have a different feel to them, so you (Carn) saying they are a weak Power Metal band, or whatever you said doesn't really have any truth behind it.

[Arucard]

I honestly cannot wait for the new album now.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Has everyone alyready seen how they are streaming the enitre COE on the official Avenged Sevenfold site? I have ****ty internet so i get like 15 of play before it has to buffer again....but the songs still sound good,so its kinda worth it.

[enigmus888]

i think the new album is great, only one or two songs on it that i didnt like (strength of the world, and seize the day) and also on some songs it does sound like shadows is forcing his singing, but over all its a great album. i think someone needs to tab these, i would do it myself but ive only been play for 6 months and i havent taken any lessons for playing by ear

[bassboymike]

Has everyone alyready seen how they are streaming the enitre COE on the official Avenged Sevenfold site? I have ****ty internet so i get like 15 of play before it has to buffer again....but the songs still sound good,so its kinda worth it.

i got the email through today. It's awesome :D

[Arucard]

Go away, no sXe kids.

[enigmus888]

Go away, no sXe kids.

^anyone mind explaining what that means?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Straight Edge.

[Ultimate Donky]

I'm really loving the new album more every time I hear it. I'd just like to know what others who have heard City of Evil think about the influences of the album. In the vocals i'm hearing normal emo-sounding stuff, and also the Axl Rose-esque voice. Musically, I'm hearing a lot of Guns n'Roses type stuff(Seize the Day especially, and a bunch of the solos too), some Metallica(Shadows even does the Hetfield laugh in a few songs, which is funny), and of course their ever-present Power Rangers guitars. Strength of the World has that Manowar sounding part. There's plenty of other stuff so i'll shut up.

I can see where Carn is coming from saying that they aren't bringing anything new to the table, but I don't really agree. They're putting their own spin on the bands that influence them(just like every band does), and IMO it sounds great.

[mish_a7x]

i havent listened to it yet, obviously ive heard the songs; Trashed and Scattered, Burn it down, Beat and the Harlot. And i recently went to a gig of theirs in my town and it was ****ing ace. I dont get why people are hating their new stuff, i mean sure shadows doesnt scream as much, well not at all i dont think, but imo its still ****ing awesome. I refuse to go on the site and get all the songs, im waiting for the album to come out... 2 days woohooo \:D/

[Spiritofmosa]

due the many positive comments on this album i decided to download it

[PeEpHoLe_10]

i havent listened to it yet, obviously ive heard the songs; Trashed and Scattered, Burn it down, Beat and the Harlot. And i recently went to a gig of theirs in my town and it was ****ing ace. I dont get why people are hating their new stuff, i mean sure shadows doesnt scream as much, well not at all i dont think, but imo its still ****ing awesome. I refuse to go on the site and get all the songs, im waiting for the album to come out... 2 days woohooo \:D/

The People that are hating their new stuff are either hardcore kids who hate the fact that there is no screaming, or are people that think they are unoriginal are just immitating other style of music and bands. IMO though, while borrowing from other sub-genres of metal they have their own distinctive sound and feel. And i absoloutley love it. :thumb:

[006deluxe]

borrowing aspects of different styles and using them all to create something new is how original stuff is created. thats what a7x is doing. they're pulling things from all over the place and while what they play sounds familiar, i guarantee you havent heard anything quite like it.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

due the many positive comments on this album i decided to download it


And....what did you think of it?

[Spiritofmosa]

nice and melodic metalcore.. some songs are not bad

[PeEpHoLe_10]

^^^
I don't really think it can be classified as metalcore.

[Ghoul Hunter]

nice and melodic metalcore.. some songs are not bad
It is in NO way at all metalcore. There isn't really even any metalcoe influence on it.

[Spiritofmosa]

hmm exactly ,, i was think about that.. it definately has metal in it, it has punk influence, and power metalish, and lil of emo

[Ghoul Hunter]

hmm exactly ,, i was think about that.. it definately has metal in it, it has punk influence, and power metalish, and lil of emo
Emo? Where?

[Spiritofmosa]

i find the 'singing' thingy emo

[Ghoul Hunter]

I've never really heard an emo singer that sings like that, haha. What bands are you comparing the emo vocals of a7x to?

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Hahaha....I don't knoq where he is getting the Emo thing from.

[Spiritofmosa]

like for example the chorus to ' beast and the harlot ' , its sooo emo... i like the emotion in this song..

[Ghoul Hunter]

Eh...

What bands are you comparing the emo vocals of a7x to?
Please answer that.

[Spiritofmosa]

comparing??? hmmmm.... say killswitch engage, from autum to ashes,as i lay dying,, metal bands with emotion in them

[PeEpHoLe_10]

He probably cant

[PeEpHoLe_10]

And he just did.......Incorrectly.

[Arucard]

Cigaro, i swear you will never learn anything about music. Those bands are not 'emo' they are Metalcore, or in As I Lay Dying's case, Metalcore with quite a large Melodic-Death influence.

Also, please put some content into your posts, spell correctly and use proper grammar.

[Ghoul Hunter]

comparing??? hmmmm.... say killswitch engage, from autum to ashes,as i lay dying,, metal bands with emotion in them
Not emo.

[Spiritofmosa]

ok peace
i guess melodic is a better word than emo

[Spiritofmosa]

i'm in love with 'seize the day'

[Shattered_Future]

due the many positive comments on this album i decided to download it

Where do you download it from?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Torrents.