Avenged Sevenfold

[nowitzki]

SO this is all intresting...how did slayer get into this?

Long hair? What? They still wear all black you idiot.

Besides, you like Slayer, so your opinion means squat.

That's how :thumb:

[Britton]

That's pretty gay.

So I've learned alotta sidewinder. but the tab I'm using doesn't have alot
for the song...does anyone have what they consider to be the whole song?

[nowitzki]

A7X's MySpace has a live version of the Beast and the Harlot.
It's pretty cool, not too sure about Matt's vocals at times though.

http://www.myspace.com/avengedsevenfold

[World_Ablaze]

A7X's MySpace has a live version of the Beast and the Harlot.
It's pretty cool, not too sure about Matt's vocals at times though.

http://www.myspace.com/avengedsevenfold

Yeah i've heard that. It sounds like he's literally gasping for air in some parts...

[Rats!]

Yeah i've heard that. It sounds like he's literally gasping for air in some parts...

Ever tried singing that song? The chorus goes for so long without room for a breath, I'm surprised he's even able to sing it while moving around on stage and stuff.

[World_Ablaze]

Ever tried singing that song? The chorus goes for so long without room for a breath, I'm surprised he's even able to sing it while moving around on stage and stuff.

Exactly, i wasn't knocking him or anything. I was going to to to type out the expalnation as to why he sounds like that but i'm lazy... :rolleyes:

[Britton]

Yep they move quite a bit

I heard Syn and Zacky knocked heads once and had to get stiches

[World_Ablaze]

Yep they move quite a bit

I heard Syn and Zacky knocked heads once and had to get stiches

:lol:

Edit: I found my pictures.
these were taken at Manchester Academy England
22nd may 2005

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7Xcopyof174.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X137.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=mshaowsinmnc.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X058.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X060.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X112.jpg

I'm not sad!! (http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=ticket.jpg)

[deathscreamingsheep]

I dunno why people are saying that they don't play Second Heartbeat anymore. At their Astoria show a few weeks ago that was their opener.

[i am the robots]

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X112.jpg

Wow, he looks confused.

[Britton]

Haha.

is this the chorus?

[Turkish]

I can't wait to see them


btw....a little off topic...but isn't there an In Flames discussion thread...I can't seem to find it.

[Tillius]

:lol:

Edit: I found my pictures.
these were taken at Manchester Academy England
22nd may 2005

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7Xcopyof174.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X137.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=mshaowsinmnc.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X058.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X060.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=A7X112.jpg

I'm not sad!! (http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=ticket.jpg)

You....stole...my avatar.:angry:

[Arucard]

Question.

What do we want the A7X thread title changed to, something unique?

The Thread of Unholy Confessions
I Won't See This Thread Tonight Pt.1
Strength Of The Thread
And The Thread Comes Out At Night

/Some poor ideas.

[Six Foot Revolver]

The first one is the only alright one.

[Arucard]

Hey you shouldn't care, you like Muse, not A7X.

[i am the robots]

All of them suck. My ideas are better, maybe The Threaded Heartbeat? or maybe Sounding the Seventh Thread.

[Britton]

It should be the Bat Country thread...

not very unique

why is it changing or something?

[nowitzki]

Waking The Forum

[Britton]

That's kinda cool

[Arucard]

Naah, its not changing, its just that the other threads get unique titles.

And Vikingcores is by far the best so far.

[Rats!]

Waking The Forum
that one's good

[Arucard]

So why the hell don't you like the most legendary thrash band of all time then?

I do like Kreator.

/Heh.

[Britton]

What the hell is with you alls avatars?

[nowitzki]

Naah, its not changing, its just that the other threads get unique titles.

It can be changed, mods can do it can't they?

and I like my suggestion best ;)

[Turkish]

I Won't See This Thread Tonight Pt.1

And The Thread Comes Out At Night



I liked those two.

[Britton]

I liked nowitzkis

Prett good

[Arucard]

What the hell is with you alls avatars?

Not sure really.

Thats me in my current avatar btw.

[i am the robots]

Mine is a joke hardcore band. Shark Punch rules!

[Britton]

I thought about having myself as a avatar

[World_Ablaze]

You....stole...my avatar.:angry:

:p
Yo snooze you lose, i've wanted it all along and i noticed you had changed it to that stewie one and Kif posted a link to his avater photobucket in the pit so i commandererd it.

[Britton]

Haha

"commadererd it"

[World_Ablaze]

Haha

"commadererd it"

The posh way of saying 'stolen' :p
I commandered "commandered" from pirates of the carribean actually!

[Britton]

That's so weird I just wathched that movie last night (er half of it)

So

any news on sevenfold?

[World_Ablaze]

That's so weird I just wathched that movie last night (er half of it)

So

any news on sevenfold?

There's a great feature on them in this months Metal Hammer which is a rock magazine here in the UK.]
It's all sin city-esque where shdows admits to being a red-neck :-/
They all voted for Bush aswell, altohugh i hate him (bush) it hasn't affected my opinion on a7x.

(Sin) City of Evil (http://photobucket.com/albums/y161/Newjerseyhxc/?action=view&current=sincitya7x.gif)

[Britton]

I wonder if I can find that here in the U.S

why do you hate bush?

[World_Ablaze]

I wonder if I can find that here in the U.S

why do you hate bush?

i don't want to get into a political discussion, but let's just say a monkey could do a better job. I noticed you're from Texas so you probably support him so w/e. I'm more interested inA7X to be honest.
If you go to www.metalhammer.co.uk you can order it for shipping from there. :)

[Rats!]

There's a great feature on them in this months Metal Hammer which is a rock magazine here in the UK.]
It's all sin city-esque where shdows admits to being a red-neck :-/
They all voted for Bush aswell, altohugh i hate him (bush) it hasn't affected my opinion on a7x.

That's good because anyone who likes or dislikes music based on its artists' political or religious beliefs can go eat a large manloaf. :)

[World_Ablaze]

That's good because anyone who likes or dislikes music based on its artists' political or religious beliefs can go eat a large manloaf. :)

Totally agreed. I mean Slayer associated themselves with Nazis a while back but i still love them aswell.

[Britton]

That's good because anyone who likes or dislikes music based on its artists' political or religious beliefs can go eat a large manloaf. :)

Totally disagreed. I have to like someone's/ at least respect someone's
opinion to like their music

[World_Ablaze]

Totally disagreed. I have to like someone's/ at least respect someone's
opinion to like their music

Some bands like RATM got the politics/music balance right but it's all these kids who say "omg i h8 bush coz greenday and SOAD told me to" is what annoys me.

[Moses]

Totally disagreed. I have to like someone's/ at least respect someone's
opinion to like their music
?That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If two people played the same note exactly the same, you would say the person that has closer political opinions played it better?

[Britton]

Yea I know what you mean. I live in a town infested with Greenday fanatics.

you would actuelly be suprised at how many people don't like bush..oh well
screw politics if I wanted that I would go somewhere other then the A7X
Thread lol.

[Britton]

?That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If two people played the same note exactly the same, you would say the person that has closer political opinions played it better?


SO you would listen to someone telling you to burn someone cause
they have a different race?

[World_Ablaze]

screw politics if I wanted that I would go somewhere other then the A7X
Thread lol.

Exactly :)

[Britton]

LoL


So I can play most of Bat country now. It's really fun

[World_Ablaze]

I'm nearly done with 'And all things will end' on bass. IMO it's their easiest song... alot of palm muting.

[Moses]

SO you would listen to someone telling you to burn someone cause
they have a different race?
Sure, because I'm not retarded enough to actually do it. If the music is good I'd listen to it.

[Rats!]

you would actuelly be suprised at how many people don't like bush

Yeah, I think about 60% of the population right now. :lol: Even higher with people our age.

[i am the robots]

Hating Bush is trendy, I could seriously care less, we live in a Democracy, he has very little control over the Government, all he does is come up with policies which are discussed amongst himself and his advisors. I don't hate him, I hate the corruption that comes with every government. Not to say that I'm for Anarchy, just that I think the government should go through some reformations.

[Turkish]

Hating Bush is trendy, I could seriously care less.


not always, amongst teenagers it's a pretty trendy thing to do. And caring less isn't a great attitude to have when it comes to the government.

Ok nvm, you edited. And I agree with you, except I think we live in a Republic rather than true democracy, unless of course that's what you meant.

[i am the robots]

I'm not saying I care less when it comes to the governemnt. I was saying I could care less about who is the figurehead of a Democratic Republic. Everything in this nation is based upon the votes of the common populace... or at least the officials the common populace elects to represent them, so in reality, the presidancy isn't really that important at all, we could just as easily run our nation WITHOUT a singular leader (actually better because there would be less disention amongst the people if compromises were made more often).

[Turkish]

I'm not saying I care less when it comes to the governemnt. I was saying I could care less about who is the figurehead of a Democratic Republic. Everything in this nation is based upon the votes of the common populace... or at least the officials the common populace elects to represent them, so in reality, the presidancy isn't really that important at all, we could just as easily run our nation WITHOUT a singular leader (actually better because there would be less disention amongst the people if compromises were made more often).


right, I know how it works. I just read your message before you edited it. So I wasn't just a little confused on what you meant.

I understand now what you mean, I just wish we could make our government less corporate.

[i am the robots]

I agree in the sense that rather than trying to control large Corporations, the government should let them run freely, so long as they pay people suitable wages and stay up to par with safety standard..

[Turkish]

I agree in the sense that rather than trying to control large Corporations, the government should let them run freely, so long as they pay people suitable wages and stay up to par with safety standard..


I'm talking about lobbyists (sp?) and Corporations buying off Senators/Representatives.

[i am the robots]

That's a major problem too, however it's far less common than people believe it to be.

[Rats!]

I think it's actually good that we have a singular leader. This way, we have a handful of people, the President and his close advisors, to blame for anything that goes wrong in the federal government. If we didn't, then we wouldn't be able to say "Don't hate America, hate Bush" to the rest of the world when they talk **** about the USA.

[i am the robots]

Oh man! Good plan! Let's blame many problems that are our fault on somebody else!

[nowitzki]

Totally agreed. I mean Slayer associated themselves with Nazis a while back but i still love them aswell.

They sung a song about nazi's, that doesn't mean they associated themselves with them.

[Turkish]

That's a major problem too, however it's far less common than people believe it to be.


Right, but it still happens. I'm also worried about the Christian Society...and not the whole society but some of the people on top of the ladder and their agenda.

[clearisacolortoo]

Maybe could someone post a tab for "betrayed" from there new album the song is okay but the begging in the raddest ever.. but im more of an older A7X fan but there new stuff is okay.. and if this wasnt mentioned earlier.. M. Shadows(vox) is more melodic because he had some surgery or something with his throat.. thats not the approach they wanted but they had to make a cd..soo he has to sing melodic..we will probably see old school on there next album..thank you people!

[Shattered_Future]

Oh man! Good plan! Let's blame many problems that are our fault on somebody else!

It's never going to change. You should get used to it...

[Britton]

Right, but it still happens. I'm also worried about the Christian Society...and not the whole society but some of the people on top of the ladder and their agenda.


What do you mean?

[Turkish]

What do you mean?


I dunno, all I have to say is when the country was established it had a definite message of "Separation of Church and State", but sometimes I feel like they're (the church that is) trying to get more invovled on the government.


But that's just me, I could be completely off base...but just a feeling I get.

[Britton]

Okay I see what you mean.

the thing that drives me crazy is how Christians think the U.S
is based on God

[Turkish]

yeah, weren't a few of people who signed the Declaration of Indepence deists anyways?

[Britton]

I beleive so

[nowitzki]

...Back on topic, when's the video for the Beast and the Harlot going to appear?
I'm looking forward to it, it's one of my favourite songs of CoE. I know they've filmed it, so we can't have that much longer to wait.

[Britton]

What do you think it will look like?

as far as the story line er whatever

[clearisacolortoo]

nevermind people i found the tabs and i can play it.. and umm maybe if like you people would start talking bout the thread topic insteadof bushi gay and christians are dumb and the world is a big pile of **** thenmaybe some questions could get answered.......oh yeah and im not trying to sound like a dikkk it just happens all im trying to say is stay on topic please? thank ya

[Britton]

Umm I think those are the most important questions.

sorry if we didn't help you but you should have enough sense to google it

http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?vid=138182&aid=1476&a=Avenged%20Sevenfold&t=Betrayed&i=5

That's what I found in two seconds

[deathscreamingsheep]

Maybe could someone post a tab for "betrayed" from there new album the song is okay but the begging in the raddest ever.. but im more of an older A7X fan but there new stuff is okay.. and if this wasnt mentioned earlier.. M. Shadows(vox) is more melodic because he had some surgery or something with his throat.. thats not the approach they wanted but they had to make a cd..soo he has to sing melodic..we will probably see old school on there next album..thank you people!

Make no mistake about this, they did want this approach for City of Evil. It isn't just the vocals that have changed. M Shadows may have busted his voice, but the style of singing he uses on this album has to be learned, it's not a natural melodic vocal style. It's also not his natural style as you will find out if you see them play live.

We will probably not hear their old sound on the next album, or if we do it will be mixed with their new sound. City of Evil as an album was highly critically acclaimed and they recieved good reviews. While a lot of their old fanbase doesn't like the new stuff, there are quite a few who enjoy both well enough. Also A7X have said that they prefer the new style quite a few times.

[nowitzki]

Make no mistake about this, they did want this approach for City of Evil. It isn't just the vocals that have changed. M Shadows may have busted his voice, but the style of singing he uses on this album has to be learned, it's not a natural melodic vocal style. It's also not his natural style as you will find out if you see them play live.

We will probably not hear their old sound on the next album, or if we do it will be mixed with their new sound. City of Evil as an album was highly critically acclaimed and they recieved good reviews. While a lot of their old fanbase doesn't like the new stuff, there are quite a few who enjoy both well enough. Also A7X have said that they prefer the new style quite a few times.

Yeah but every band says that, they have to really.

[Arucard]

nevermind people i found the tabs and i can play it.. and umm maybe if like you people would start talking bout the thread topic insteadof bushi gay and christians are dumb and the world is a big pile of **** thenmaybe some questions could get answered.......oh yeah and im not trying to sound like a dikkk it just happens all im trying to say is stay on topic please? thank ya

Its my thread and i say : no. Go away.

[TheSlayer]

Totally agreed. I mean Slayer associated themselves with Nazis a while back but i still love them aswell.

No they didn't. I don't know how many Slayer interviews i've read where they say there not Nazis. Tom araya's wife is Jewish for christ sake! And so is Rick freaking Rubin!! Angel of death is about Josef mengele. He was the head SS doctor at Auschwitz who did some ****ing sick experiments on jewish children and women. He personally picked 400,000 jews to be killed. Angel of death was his nickname.

[TheSlayer]

Sry i know that last post wasn't about A7X. But i had to clear that little matter up.

Anyway about shadows voice. I'm still not convinced he burst his throat. Anyone got an interview with him which says he has??

[Turkish]

nevermind people i found the tabs and i can play it.. and umm maybe if like you people would start talking bout the thread topic insteadof bushi gay and christians are dumb and the world is a big pile of **** thenmaybe some questions could get answered.......oh yeah and im not trying to sound like a dikkk it just happens all im trying to say is stay on topic please? thank ya


Sorry, I don't see you adding much to this thread either but bad spelling and grammar.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Sry i know that last post wasn't about A7X. But i had to clear that little matter up.

Anyway about shadows voice. I'm still not convinced he burst his throat. Anyone got an interview with him which says he has??

Most of them. I'd be interested to know why you consider press interviews as actual evidence considering most magazines lie and make up stuff that bands say to make them look 'rock and roll' e.g. by making notes on their answers to questions and then adding the word **** every other word to make it appeal to the kids.

But yeah... about a year ago when the accident happened there was a lot of press about the burst blood vessel incident. Plus witnesses from the concert during which it happened.

[nowitzki]

Most of them. I'd be interested to know why you consider press interviews as actual evidence considering most magazines lie and make up stuff that bands say to make them look 'rock and roll' e.g. by making notes on their answers to questions and then adding the word **** every other word to make it appeal to the kids.

Tabloid newspapers, maybe. But most music press will cover interviews accuarately. Why wouldn't they? If they were making things up about artists after interviewing them, the artist wouldn't work with them ever again, and would be likely to take legal action. Which would lead to other artists not wanting to work with them and they'd lose readers.
And artists are using interviews to promote themselves anyway so the magazine shouldn't have to change it.
What makes you think they change interviews so much?

[deathscreamingsheep]

Because I've worked in the press- admittedly I have worked in tabloid journalism which is different... but judging by the style and quality of a lot of interviews this seems to be the case. Having said that, sometimes interviews can also be a bit misleading for other reasons e.g. it is impossible to tell what tone of voice they were using.

An example of this was when I read an interview with Mastodon where they said a lot of stuff about various perverse topics. It was clear that they were being sarcastic, but a lot of people didn't seem to get it so next week there were lots of letters buggering on about what fags the band were being.

[TheSlayer]

Because I've worked in the press- admittedly I have worked in tabloid journalism which is different... but judging by the style and quality of a lot of interviews this seems to be the case. Having said that, sometimes interviews can also be a bit misleading for other reasons e.g. it is impossible to tell what tone of voice they were using.

An example of this was when I read an interview with Mastodon where they said a lot of stuff about various perverse topics. It was clear that they were being sarcastic, but a lot of people didn't seem to get it so next week there were lots of letters buggering on about what fags the band were being.

But that's not the magazine's fault, that's the Fags fault for reading it seriously. like you said that's impossible to avoid.

[World_Ablaze]

Has anyone seen Sahdows' new platinum fronts?

[TheSlayer]

Has anyone seen Sahdows' new platinum fronts?

Some pictures might help?????

[World_Ablaze]

Some pictures might help?????

I don't have any, that's why i asked if anyone else had seen them.

[Arucard]

What are platinum fronts anyway?

[World_Ablaze]

What are platinum fronts anyway?

http://www.angelfire.com/tn2/gangstagold/images/mac.jpg

Shadows has them but in silver/platinum all along his top row of teeth.

[Arucard]

Ha, thats gotta look really stupid.

[World_Ablaze]

Ha, thats gotta look really stupid.

Not on him, i'll try to find some pics, hold on.

[nowitzki]

Are they permanent?

[i am the robots]

Are they permanent?

Hopefully not, btw. The 'nig' comment wasn't actual racism.

[cbmartinez]

Did anyone wind up getting the City Of Evil vinyl?

[i am the robots]

Did anyone wind up getting the City Of Evil vinyl?

I didn't, why?

[deathscreamingsheep]

Are they permanent?

No they aren't.

[Britton]

Okay good. But why would he want them in the first place? It's
not like he's a rapper or something.

Nope I'm not gonna buy the vinyl

[i am the robots]

Yeah, I'm curious as to why as well.

[cbmartinez]

I was just thinking about buying the vinyl and I was wondering if maybe it came with an extra track or something.

[Britton]

Nope I think it's really just for collectors..I think that's what they had in mind at least.

Okay so I just learned the warmness on the soul solo tonight. It's really easy
to play and you can learn it fast too

[World_Ablaze]

This thread needs a name... like

'sounding the seventh thread' or

The thread and the harlot.

Ok i know those were abysmal but they were just off the top of my head...

[TheSlayer]

OK i got a very good site! Click the link to see A7X live in San diego. They plat Beast and the harlot, Unholly confessions, Bat country, Chapter four, Eternal rest. It's though beause Shadows has completley reworked the WTF songs with NO screaming. What y'all think?

http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/avenged_sevenfold/artist.jhtml

[nowitzki]

OK i got a very good site! Click the link to see A7X live in San diego. They plat Beast and the harlot, Unholly confessions, Bat country, Chapter four, Eternal rest. It's though beause Shadows has completley reworked the WTF songs with NO screaming. What y'all think?

http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/avenged_sevenfold/artist.jhtml

Hmm, his clean voice does sound very cool, but at times it just doesn't fit the song at all. They sound much better with screaming.

[i am the robots]

I agree with nowitzki :thumb:.

[TheSlayer]

Yeah ther're much better as they originaly were. I don't get why he cant just scream. He can i think as he does when ther're playing beast and the harlot.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I have to say when I saw them live I thought their old songs were better played than the new. I think the presence of three guitars in the new album really adds a bulk to the sound you don't hear live. Obviously it could also be bacause they haven't played the new songs as much yet.

[Britton]

^ That's entirely possible

I hope they come back here soon

[Metal_head45]

I only just got into avenged sevenfold. WOW i seemed to have missed out heaps. I have got almost the whole waking the dead album and i love the song I won't see you tonight part 1. Its mad!

[nowitzki]

You mean Waking The Fallen, right :rolleyes:
yes, it's an awesome album.

[loathed]

waking the dead...:rolleyes:

[World_Ablaze]

Heh waking the dead.. .amateur mistake :p
but it is a fantastic album. Glad to have another fan aboard
:wave:

[Arucard]

OK i got a very good site! Click the link to see A7X live in San diego. They plat Beast and the harlot, Unholly confessions, Bat country, Chapter four, Eternal rest. It's though beause Shadows has completley reworked the WTF songs with NO screaming. What y'all think?

http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/avenged_sevenfold/artist.jhtml

Wow, they have Unholy Confessions down amazingly. Only problem for me was the slight timing difficulties they were having in the breakdown before the chorus.

[i am the robots]

I need to see that, but alas, I'm in school.

[Arucard]

They act like Maiden, ramps everywhere, running around and stuff.

[World_Ablaze]

They act like Maiden, ramps everywhere, running around and stuff.

That's what getting signed to a major label gets you.

[TheSlayer]

I only just got into avenged sevenfold. WOW i seemed to have missed out heaps. I have got almost the whole waking the dead album and i love the song I won't see you tonight part 1. Its mad!

lmao. waking the dead. Waking the fallen lol you mean (you better:angry:). But yes it's cool to have another fan. Waking the fallen is one of the greatest albums of our time.

[TheSlayer]

I noticed though that in unholy confession the drummer screamed one bit (restraints are useless here!). i think he should scream more.

[Tillius]

I only just got into avenged sevenfold. WOW i seemed to have missed out heaps. I have got almost the whole waking the dead album and i love the song I won't see you tonight part 1. Its mad!
:lol:
Waking the Dead.
Avenged Sevenfold n00b.
But yeah...I agree with you. I won't see you tonight pt. 1 is an amazing song...one of my favorite A7X songs period. WTF is definitely their best album.

[World_Ablaze]

:lol:
Waking the Dead.
Avenged Sevenfold n00b.
But yeah...I agree with you. I won't see you tonight pt. 1 is an amazing song...one of my favorite A7X songs period. WTF is definitely their best album.

I made a film about bullying/suicide and IWSYT PT1 was the backing music. I won an award for it. :cool:

I noticed though that in unholy confession the drummer screamed one bit (restraints are useless here!). i think he should scream more.

He screams in some songs on STST.

[Arucard]

Have you heard The Revs work with Pinkly Smooth? He does all the vocals, and another guy drums. Hes a great singer.

[World_Ablaze]

Have you heard The Revs work with Pinkly Smooth? He does all the vocals, and another guy drums. Hes a great singer.

http://www.myspace.com/pinklysmooth

He is actually a really good singer... Far better than i expected.

[Tillius]

I made a film about bullying/suicide and IWSYT PT1 was the backing music. I won an award for it. :cool:



.
Awesome.

[nowitzki]

He screams in some songs on STST.

Is that him who sings Lips of Deciet then?

I agree he should do more screaming live. Those old songs just don't sound right at all without screaming.

[Daronmerized]

I think Avenged Sevenfold is an awesome band, just not my type. I just recently bought City of Evil, and the new songs just seem to carry on and on forever. I like more fast paced music that I can sing along to and not get lost in. I personally like Burn It Down and Blinded In Chains, though. Those songs are brilliant.

[World_Ablaze]

Is that him who sings Lips of Deciet then?

.

Yeah he's the one on Lips of Deciet. He should do more live but his drumming is do techical and complicated, I doubt he'd be able to do both at once. I think Zacky has done a good job on backing vocals. After Shadows blew his voice he has had to help Synester Gates a little live.

[Arucard]

I think the songs sound very mature and suave when the vocals are sung cleanly.

[nowitzki]

I think the songs sound very mature and suave when the vocals are sung cleanly.

Which is why it sucks.

[i am the robots]

I think the songs sound very mature and suave when the vocals are sung cleanly.

Joe, please, his clean vocals are horrible now, his tone is so nasal it's irritating, he makes it to the level of maturity he used to have in his vocals at certain points, and in fact, even better than before, but his screaming is so much better than his higher end (beyond his range) vocals.

I listen to Japanese bands, Korn, and Trivium, and I still complain about how nasal his voice is, it kinda makes you think, no?

[Arucard]

I think you guys need to get over the fact hes not screaming anymore and live with what we have. Watch that Unholy Confessions video, they have as much stage presence as someone like Maiden or Metallica, and Shadows looks alot more confident when he sings now.

[i am the robots]

Dude, the fact is that his vocals have really gone downhill since he could no longer scream, luckily in a few years he'll be able to safely.

[yeawhatever1117]

Dude, the fact is that his vocals have really gone downhill since he could no longer scream, luckily in a few years he'll be able to safely.

What makes you think that he will be back to the screaming in a few years? Personally I think that they will continue to develop their own sort of unique mix of metal/power metal/metalcore. I would be very surprised if they put out another STST or WTF in the future. You must understand that bands must develop as they grow. You can't expect them to rewrite a record four or five different times. Obviously A7X hasn't done this. They have progressed with each and every album, and for me I love them all equally. They each are amazing. Sure City of Evil is different from STST but, both are amazing albums. What I am trying to say is that you should like a band for the music that they play. You can't expect a band to be the same forever.

[Arucard]

What? An intelligent noob?

Yeh, i agree with everything he said in that post. Good job man.

[nowitzki]

I don't have a problem with them not screaming in their new material, I just think it ruins the old songs.

[Turkish]

What makes you think that he will be back to the screaming in a few years? Personally I think that they will continue to develop their own sort of unique mix of metal/power metal/metalcore. I would be very surprised if they put out another STST or WTF in the future. You must understand that bands must develop as they grow. You can't expect them to rewrite a record four or five different times. Obviously A7X hasn't done this. They have progressed with each and every album, and for me I love them all equally. They each are amazing. Sure City of Evil is different from STST but, both are amazing albums. What I am trying to say is that you should like a band for the music that they play. You can't expect a band to be the same forever.


Precisely, I agree 100%. I very much also like the way they went with CoE. Sure I would like to see some more screaming material...but M. Shadows singing voice is very good.

I'd rather have a band evolve, and go somewhere THEY want with THEIR music...rather than trying to appease fans and produce crap.

[Britton]

Precisely, I agree 100%. I very much also like the way they went with CoE. Sure I would like to see some more screaming material...but M. Shadows singing voice is very good.

I'd rather have a band evolve, and go somewhere THEY want with THEIR music...rather than trying to appease fans and produce crap.


It's funny how when they do do that how fans start selling out and giving
up on the band

[TheSlayer]

I don't have a problem with them not screaming in their new material, I just think it ruins the old songs.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking! CoE is still as good album, and I don't mind his clean voice, but that doesn't give any reason to change their old songs that got them famous in the place. And i think they owe at least that, to their original fans who liked them before COE (ie Me)

[World_Ablaze]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking! CoE is still as good album, and I don't mind his clean voice, but that doesn't give any reason to change their old songs that got them famous in the place. And i think they owe at least that, to their original fans who liked them before COE (ie Me)

I don't think they wanted to change but they had to, so Shadows could sing safely. If he hadn't have done anything then he would have had to stop singing all together.
When i saw them and they did songs from WTF you could clealy see he was trying his best and was under an enormous amount of strain to try to sing as close to as he was doing before his operation. I think the fact that they still include as many songs as possible from WTF in their live sets (including eternal rest which has alot of screaming in it) shows that they are still wanting to show the fans who were into them before COE that they haven't been forgotten about and thast those tracks are still important.

[TheSlayer]

I don't think they wanted to change but they had to, so Shadows could sing safely. If he hadn't have done anything then he would have had to stop singing all together.
When i saw them and they did songs from WTF you could clealy see he was trying his best and was under an enormous amount of strain to try to sing as close to as he was doing before his operation. I think the fact that they still include as many songs as possible from WTF in their live sets (including eternal rest which has alot of screaming in it) shows that they are still wanting to show the fans who were into them before COE that they haven't been forgotten about and thast those tracks are still important.

*wipes tear from eye*. Yeah your probably right.

[World_Ablaze]

*wipes tear from eye*. Yeah your probably right.

heh, i think that's the most sense i've ever made on MX

[Britton]

It's very sad...

that's what's gonna happen to Matt from Trivium

[deathscreamingsheep]

It's very sad...

that's what's gonna happen to Matt from Trivium

Yeah, I saw them in their Barfly show. His singing and screaming voices are already suffering... Oh well, that's what happens when you don't do it properly.

[World_Ablaze]

Yeah, I saw them in their Barfly show. His singing and screaming voices are already suffering... Oh well, that's what happens when you don't do it properly.

I thought Heafy was trained...

[nowitzki]

Heafy's clean voice is terrible live, but his stage presence manages to make up for it. Although he totally over does the "let the crowd sing the clean bit".

[Britton]

They have a lot of work to do. but come on the dude is 19 or 20?
so they are off to being increible

[clearisacolortoo]

HAha sorry poeple for being i Dick and i did find the tabs i have been so independant on Mx that i forget that there are other place. And i learned it but still cant make it sound nearly as good as Synestar Gates and Zachy Vengance, but yeah sorry.

[Turkish]

no worries man :thumb:

[World_Ablaze]

Heafy's clean voice is terrible live, but his stage presence manages to make up for it. Although he totally over does the "let the crowd sing the clean bit".

I agree with that.

[Metal_head45]

Heafy's clean voice is terrible live, but his stage presence manages to make up for it. Although he totally over does the "let the crowd sing the clean bit".


Thats a shame, his clean voice is awesome on Waking the Fallen mind you thats the only album i have so i dunno about the other ones.

[World_Ablaze]

Thats a shame, his clean voice is awesome on Waking the Fallen mind you thats the only album i have so i dunno about the other ones.

By his i assume you mean M Shadows, because Matt Heafy sings for Trvium.
To get a really good example of shadows' clean voice try to download 'Warmness on the Soul' from the album 'Sounding the seventh trumpet'

[Metal_head45]

By his i assume you mean M Shadows, because Matt Heafy sings for Trvium.
To get a really good example of shadows' clean voice try to download 'Warmness on the Soul' from the album 'Sounding the seventh trumpet'


lol my bad. i did post somewhere that i am a noob when it comes to AS so yeah please excuse my mistake lol. It sucks about his (shadows) throat operation, i really liked his scream.

[World_Ablaze]

lol my bad. i did post somewhere that i am a noob when it comes to AS so yeah please excuse my mistake lol. It sucks about his (shadows) throat operation, i really liked his scream.

Heh s'ok :p
Yeah but IMO it could be seen as a blessing in disguise. Think of it this way... . right now loads of screamo/metalcore bands such as 'As i lay dying and 'Shadows fall' are getting really popular. A7X were doing the whole screamo thing before it got popular and still managed to build themselves a solid fanbase. Now they are able to take their music away from what's "in" at the moment and go off on thier own not having to follow a trend. This will ensure they'll still be around doing thier own thing when the new fad arrives.

[loathed]

i cant wait for their next album already...

[World_Ablaze]

i cant wait for their next album already...

Don't even make me think about that! I'll get too excited.

New album = tour :D

[nowitzki]

They still haven't done a proper tour here for CoE.
Well, they were meant to but it got cancelled :upset:
They've just played one date in London, so I don't know whether they'll be back any time soon.

[World_Ablaze]

They still haven't done a proper tour here for CoE.
Well, they were meant to but it got cancelled :upset:
They've just played one date in London, so I don't know whether they'll be back any time soon.

They were rumoured to be playing on the Kerrang 25th anniversary tor but they're not :upset:

[i am the robots]

They still haven't done a proper tour here for CoE.
Well, they were meant to but it got cancelled :upset:
They've just played one date in London, so I don't know whether they'll be back any time soon.

Haha, you got owned.

[World_Ablaze]

Haha, you got owned.

Sssssssssssssh :upset:

[Britton]

That's no fun

I wonder when the next album will be done?
I'm gonna have a big party with lots of Gals

[nowitzki]

Haha, you got owned.

Dammit, owned by A7X :upset:

That's no fun

I wonder when the next album will be done?
I'm gonna have a big party with lots of Gals

Party + new A7X album + lots of gals = awesomeness, I hope I recieve an invite

[Britton]

Dammit, owned by A7X :upset:



Party + new A7X album + lots of gals = awesomeness, I hope I recieve an invite

I'm nt buying you're plane ticket

[nowitzki]

I'm nt buying you're plane ticket

Hmm, I'll have to arrange my own A7X album launch party then. Let's just just hope it's a good album.

[Tillius]

I better be invited to this party.

[Blizzink]

I just got back from one of their concerts (A7X's of course), and all I can say is this: I wish I was that ripped.

[HOTFORTEACHER]

I missed them when they came to detroit, anyways they just had this spankin' new special on mtv2 theyre where on. Anyone catch that? Synyster had a nice little solo.

[nowitzki]

I just got back from one of their concerts (A7X's of course), and all I can say is this: I wish I was that ripped.

:lol: Thanks for the informative review.

[World_Ablaze]

I just got back from one of their concerts (A7X's of course), and all I can say is this: I wish I was that ripped.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing... someone explain...

Hmm, I'll have to arrange my own A7X album launch party then.

:wave:

[Metal_head45]

Heh s'ok :p
Yeah but IMO it could be seen as a blessing in disguise. Think of it this way... . right now loads of screamo/metalcore bands such as 'As i lay dying and 'Shadows fall' are getting really popular. A7X were doing the whole screamo thing before it got popular and still managed to build themselves a solid fanbase. Now they are able to take their music away from what's "in" at the moment and go off on thier own not having to follow a trend. This will ensure they'll still be around doing thier own thing when the new fad arrives.


Yeah i agree with you. A7X are defiantly not like the other screamo/metalcore bands out there, i dunno if you would even call them screamo/metalcore.

[World_Ablaze]

Yeah i agree with you. A7X are defiantly not like the other screamo/metalcore bands out there, i dunno if you would even call them screamo/metalcore.

During the days of 'Sounding the seventh trumpet' and maybe 'Waking the fallen' you could probably class them as screamo but now they're defiantely leaning toward a more power metal/rock n roll (a la guns n roses) stance.

[nowitzki]

Is this a good thing or a bad thing... someone explain...



:wave:

I think he means he wishes he had a physiqe like M Shadows... :rolleyes:

[TemperamentalGoat]

they were never screamo, they were metalcore (most pronounced in STST).

[World_Ablaze]

they were never screamo, they were metalcore (most pronounced in STST).

I think they were leaning towards screamo, especially in STST.

I think he means he wishes he had a physiqe like M Shadows... :rolleyes:

Oooooooooh :rolleyes:

[Metal_head45]

I think they were to heavy to be screamo in WtF.

[nowitzki]

I think they were to heavy to be screamo in WtF.

I agree, they were metalcore.

[World_Ablaze]

I agree, they were metalcore.

Songs like 'Second Heartbeat' and 'Eternal Rest' do have hints of screamo though.

[Metal_head45]

Songs like 'Second Heartbeat' and 'Eternal Rest' do have hints of screamo though.


Yeah i agree with you there

[Metal_head45]

Songs like 'Second Heartbeat' and 'Eternal Rest' do have hints of screamo though.


Yeah i agree with you there but not every song is screamo

[World_Ablaze]

Yeah i agree with you there but not every song is screamo

Oh yeah, like IWSYT PT1 or Chapter four.

[Metal_head45]

yeah i kinda stuffed up the first post, i just had to add that little bit on the end

[Metal_head45]

Oh yeah, like IWSYT PT1 or Chapter four.

Exactly i am listening to IWSYT PT1 right now lol, its my favourite song by them, close to one of my favourites of all time. I love with bit at the end in like the last minute and a half of the song.

[World_Ablaze]

Exactly i am listening to IWSYT PT1 right now lol, its my favourite song by them, close to one of my favourites of all time. I love with bit at the end in like the last minute and a half of the song.

Second Heartbeat is my favourite song. I love the solo in it.

[i am the robots]

Reminissions and ...And All Things Will End.

[Britton]

Does the Abreviation WTF make anyone else think something other
then waking the fallen?

[TheSlayer]

What the hell's all this about Matt Heafy loosing his voice?? Not antoher favourtie band please god!!

[nowitzki]

Does the Abreviation WTF make anyone else think something other
then waking the fallen?

WTF??? :confused:

[TheSlayer]

I agree. What the **** are you talking about?

[i am the robots]

Does the Abreviation WTF make anyone else think something other
then waking the fallen?

Yeah, 'What the ****?,'

What the hell's all this about Matt Heafy loosing his voice?? Not antoher favourtie band please god!!

The only difference is that Matt Shadows was screaming correctly, he just had problems that adversely affected him... besides, he was a great singer... Matt Heafy... doesn't scream or sing correctly, hopefully Trivium just finds a singer that doesn't suck, so Heafy can just concentrate on guitar.

[Britton]

I agree. What the **** are you talking about?


Nevermind

[nowitzki]

Waking the Dead

[Britton]

Darn you nowitzki I said nevermind!

LoL

Okay so...I'm in love with Warmness on the soul

[Tillius]

Warmness on the Soul is indeed a great song.

[Britton]

It's fun to play! My buddy is a world class piano player and he said he would
do it with me

[Tillius]

Awesome.

Did anybody watch them live on Spankin New today?

[Britton]

Nope. I didn't know they were on

[TheSlayer]

hmmmm i'm not so keen on Warmness on the soul. It's ok it's just too like........blah. I won't see you tonight however is amazing, they got it 100% on that one. WOTS is my least favourite song on STST.

[Metal_head45]

hmmmm i'm not so keen on Warmness on the soul. It's ok it's just too like........blah. I won't see you tonight however is amazing, they got it 100% on that one. WOTS is my least favourite song on STST.


I havent heard Warmness on the Soul but i love i won't see you tonight. Its one of my favourite songs and thats part.1 im talking about. Part 2 isnt as good but its still pretty mad.

[nowitzki]

Warmness on the Soul is an amazing song. Completly different to the rest of STST though.

[Tillius]

I havent heard Warmness on the Soul but i love i won't see you tonight. Its one of my favourite songs and thats part.1 im talking about. Part 2 isnt as good but its still pretty mad.
Pt. 1 IS my favorite song.

[Britton]

I havent heard Warmness on the Soul but i love i won't see you tonight. Its one of my favourite songs and thats part.1 im talking about. Part 2 isnt as good but its still pretty mad.


Check it out

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1764095910826483600&q=avenged+sevenfold

[loathed]

lol good video. but i got shocked at the end. damn you!

[yeawhatever1117]

Awesome.

Did anybody watch them live on Spankin New today?

I did. I thought it was kind of funny watching them. Zacky, The Rev, and Johnny all just stood there. Syn said something. Matt did most of the talking. It was quite funny. You could tell they were all kind of uncomfortable to be seen on TRL. They didn't quite fit in with all their makeup and tatoos. Even with the two guys from Good Charlotte there.

[Roo_bass]

Warmness on the Soul is an amazing song. Completly different to the rest of STST though.
I love the way it goes from Lips of Deceit (my favourite song off STST) and then into Warmness on the Soul (my second favourite song off STST).

[nowitzki]

Who plays the piano on WOTS?

[i am the robots]

Who plays the piano on WOTS?

The Rev plays piano.

[Aw3someman]

Awesome.

Did anybody watch them live on Spankin New today?
I saw them live on fuse. it rocked my socks

[Tillius]

I saw them live on fuse. it rocked my socks
WHOA!!! They were on Fuse last night? When? On what?:upset:

[World_Ablaze]

The Rev plays piano.

No he doesn't, it's their old bassist Justin Sane.

[Arucard]

Who used to be in Anti-Flag.

[Britton]

Hmm that's odd...I got the impression that Syn playd the piano. Wasn't that
his first instrument?

[Britton]

hi

check out my avenged sevenfold tribute site.

http://tinyurl.com/bf9rr


What?

[World_Ablaze]

Hmm that's odd...I got the impression that Syn playd the piano. Wasn't that
his first instrument?

He and Shadows played piano on Waking the Fallen

Who used to be in Anti-Flag.

No, they're two different people. The old A7X memeber is now in a mental hospital or something :-/

[TheSlayer]

^^WHAT? Do you mean Dameon ash?

[World_Ablaze]

^^WHAT? Do you mean Dameon ash?

Yes my mistake sorry.
It says in the notes in the STST cd Damon Ash does not appear on 'STST' Bass playing c/o Justin Sane.
My mistake.
Thanks :)

[Turkish]

I really enjoy Warmness of the Soul on STST, but I like I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1 much much more.

[scenesfromatheater]

I didn't usually listen to A7X cause I thought Waken the Fallen was pretty pants. But I listened to City of Evil the other day and I can't stop listening to it. It's such an awsome album with quality vocals, guitars and drums. I'd give it a 9/10:thumb: .

[World_Ablaze]

I really enjoy Warmness of the Soul on STST, but I like I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1 much much more.

Both are really great love songs.

I didn't usually listen to A7X cause I thought Waken the Fallen was pretty pants. .

How so? :confused:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So I just picked up City of Evil yesterday. I'm listening to it for the first time right now, and so far, I'm really liking it. :) My sole complaint is the sound of their drummer's snare on the album. It sounds like he's hitting a 2x4 or something. :p It doesn't bother me that much, but it's the only thing I'm not liking so far.

[scenesfromatheater]

How so? :confused:

It's not very original. I've heard so many bands that are simalar before and after that album.

[Arucard]

What? Name one band that sounds like A7X on WTF. As a point, Atreyu do not.

[scenesfromatheater]

What? Name one band that sounds like A7X on WTF. As a point, Atreyu do not.

There are too many to mention.....very too many.

[nowitzki]

At the time WTF was released there wasn't any other bands like A7X.
Since then there have been a few bands attempting that style, but none have pulled it off as well.

[i am the robots]

There are too many to mention.....very too many.

Your avatar says "emo sucks" I doubt you have the faintest clue what you're saying anyhow.

Bands like As I Lay Dying don't count either.

[scenesfromatheater]

Your avatar says "emo sucks" I doubt you have the faintest clue what you're saying anyhow.

Bands like As I Lay Dying don't count either.

My avatar dosen't say emo su.....oh wait.

[Arucard]

Honestly man, you obviously know nothing about emo.

[scenesfromatheater]

So what's all this got to do with A7X?

[Arucard]

The fact that no/few bands sound like they do on WTF.

[Shattered_Future]

Arucard is right...I own WTF, and I've never really heard anything like it. They carved out a great niche for themselves, and made an incredible album out of it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Sorry to change the subject, but I just start learning Bat Country. There some cool riffs in the song, but I'm really having trouble with that sweep picking harmony part after the solo. I honestly can't even figure out how you would finger it, so any help would be great.

Any other (easy)song reccomendations to learn would be welcome as well. Preferably songs from COE.

[loathed]

learn seize the day, pretty cool song to play.

[Metal_head45]

Arucard is right...I own WTF, and I've never really heard anything like it. They carved out a great niche for themselves, and made an incredible album out of it.

No way is WTF hardcore/screamo. Way to many guitar solos and sh*t for it to classed as that. They are way to hard to classify.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I don't think he was calling it either of those. :confused:

[Britton]

WTF is great and very unique...but I'm so in love with COE

[i am the robots]

No way is WTF hardcore/screamo. Way to many guitar solos and sh*t for it to classed as that. They are way to hard to classify.

It definately is very hardcore/screamo influenced dude. The fact is that it's Metalcore/Screamo.

[Britton]

It definately is very hardcore/screamo influenced dude. The fact is that it's Metalcore/Screamo.


Great point. So are ya'll deep into screamo?

[The_Riddler]

I am not too big into Avenged at the moment, but my girlfriend has sent me a few songs and they are pulling me deeper into the band. Their guitar work is excellent, but of course there are always other bands who surpass them.

So far, the only album I seem to dislike is City of Evil, that was pretty much the first album of theirs I heard almost completely and I just didn't like the vocals much. Then I heard their earlier albums and pretty much loved quite a bit of it.

I did a crappy comparison of the band, I compared them to Soilwork and another band. Either way I like Avenged, I will probably buy a few of their albums next year after I buy all the albums I want currently

[Bat_Country]

Dammit looks like i missed alot here :upset:

[Metal_head45]

It definately is very hardcore/screamo influenced dude. The fact is that it's Metalcore/Screamo.

what im trying to say is that is not your regular metalcore/screamo i just kinda worded it badly lol. Thats just my opinion.

[Arucard]

I don't think that they are influenced by Screamo very much, and the fact is WTF is not a Metalcore album.

To much metal, not enough -core.

[i am the robots]

what im trying to say is that is not your regular metalcore/screamo i just kinda worded it badly lol. Thats just my opinion.

It's different because it's actually part of the genre, the stuff that gets labeled as Metalcore like As I Lay Dying or Trivium really has nothing to do with the genre.

I don't think that they are influenced by Screamo very much, and the fact is WTF is not a Metalcore album.

To much metal, not enough -core.

It's not Metalcore in the sense of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, but songs like Unholy Confessions, Second Heartbeat, Chapter Four, Reminissions, and Clairvoyant Disease definately have very hardcore influenced sections.

[nowitzki]

Yeah, I'd call WTF heavy metal, with a metalcore influence.

It's different because it's actually part of the genre, the stuff that gets labeled as Metalcore like As I Lay Dying or Trivium really has nothing to do with the genre.

Trivium are not metalcore at all.

[i am the robots]

Very good, that's what I was pointing out... though there are some moments on Ember to Inferno that have some Hardcore in there... but it's not really enough to have them considered Metalcore... moreso just Melodic Death Metal/Thrash/Post-Hardcore IMO.

[nowitzki]

Very good, that's what I was pointing out... though there are some moments on Ember to Inferno that have some Hardcore in there... but it's not really enough to have them considered Metalcore... moreso just Melodic Death Metal/Thrash/Post-Hardcore IMO.

Sorry, I misread your post. I'd agree with that, except for the melodic death part.
I'd call them heavy metal/thrash.

[Shred Danson]

I don't think that they are influenced by Screamo very much, and the fact is WTF is not a Metalcore album.

To much metal, not enough -core.

I hear no screamo in their music, and I barely hear any -core.

I just think Waking the Fallen is more of a traditional metal record, only with more screaming, of course. It reminded me more of Iron Maiden than Atreyu or From First To Last.

I'd call them heavy metal/thrash.

no, no, no, no, no, no NO.

[i am the robots]

I hear no screamo in their music, and I barely hear any -core.

I just think Waking the Fallen is more of a traditional metal record, only with more screaming, of course. It reminded me more of Iron Maiden than Atreyu or From First To Last.



no, no, no, no, no, no NO.

MELODEATH AND THRASH ELEMENTS NAZI!!!! GOD LOL

[Shred Danson]

MELODEATH AND THRASH ELEMENTS NAZI!!!! GOD LOL

DO YOU EVER STFUIZLLE MATT GOOOOOOODDDDDD

:lol:

[nowitzki]

Trivium clearly have a thrash influence in their music. They are not a thrash band, but you can definitely hear the influence, I stand by my classification of them.

[Shred Danson]

Just because the yare influenced by thrash does NOT, I repeat NOT make them thrash.

[nowitzki]

I said heavy metal/thrash.
What does make a band thrash then? A lot of the riffs and leads they play are very much like thrash.

[scenesfromatheater]

I said heavy metal/thrash.
What does make a band thrash then? A lot of the riffs and leads they play are very much like thrash.

Very true, many riffs like Metallica's stuff, and they are thrash. I'd class Trivium as metal/thrash. And I'd class A7X as melodic/power metal (COE that is).

[i am the robots]

DO YOU EVER STFUIZLLE MATT GOOOOOOODDDDDD

:lol:

LOLLER LOLLER LOLLER

[Shred Danson]

Very true, many riffs like Metallica's stuff, and they are thrash. I'd class Trivium as metal/thrash. And I'd class A7X as melodic/power metal (COE that is).

/puts on genre nazi hat

Metallica's first four albums were thrash, and while I love Metallica and everything, they weren't exactly a prime example of thrash. Sodom's Persecution Mania or Demolition Hammer's Epidemic of Violence are better examples of what thrash is.

What does make a band thrash then? A lot of the riffs and leads they play are very much like thrash.

No, most riffs they played on WTF were reminiscent of power metal. Just because a band palm mutes a lot of notes does not make them a thrash band. The leads probably would fit more in an Iron Maiden song or even a Pantera song than a Destruction or S.O.D song.

Me, I just think A7X is a traditional metal band. Well, mayeb not moreso with the newer material, but WTF is just a straight up metal CD, nothing else. No screamo, thrash, death, etc...

[nowitzki]

No, most riffs they played on WTF were reminiscent of power metal. Just because a band palm mutes a lot of notes does not make them a thrash band. The leads probably would fit more in an Iron Maiden song or even a Pantera song than a Destruction or S.O.D song.

Me, I just think A7X is a traditional metal band. Well, mayeb not moreso with the newer material, but WTF is just a straight up metal CD, nothing else. No screamo, thrash, death, etc...

Erm, we were talking about Trivium :rolleyes:

[Britton]

We should stop talking about Trivium in the A7X thread.

So I can almost Play Bat country all the way through..it's just the solo
that is killin me

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

About Bat Country- Same here. Most of it is cake, but the solo is quite tricky at times. :-/

Does their drummer use a bass trigger by any chance? There are certain segments that would lead me to beleive so, so that's why I'm asking.