Avenged Sevenfold

[-:Vincent:-]

A7X have never been good in my eye

Why do people do that?? If you don't like A7X then why even come here and talk about it? Besides even if you don't, then at least have something interesting to say.

[Follow The Reaper]

A lot of people who who don't like the new style don't like it because all they listen to is hardcore/metalcore. Go look on a ton of forums reviewing their new CD and you'll see what i'm talking about. I'm sure many people are open minded and don't like his singing style on COE, thats not what i'm saying. But those kids make me laugh, they ARE funny, either that, or extremely irritating. Honestly, go look, if you don't see the close mindedness and same old rantings of "OMG NO SCREAMING SUX THEY SOLD OUT MAN"... Well, you'll see it. I think it's funny, i'm allowed to. So shush.
You're not getting what I'm saying, just because they don't listen to A7X because all they listen to is hardcore/metalcore, they don't listen because they don't like it. And if they listened to only metalcore/hardcore, they would like A7X's second release WTF, that was metalcore.

Also, I heard some people thought the new style of doing the old songs was a bit lacking? Like he held out notes for longer to make up for missing parts? I'm interested personally. Just a shame if he can't sing clean like on WTF. Having said that, his new style isn't bad, just a little nasal in places.
I happened to like his style of singing for the old songs, but that's just me.

Oh, and to Follow the Reaper. He more than likely will sing differently on the next album. Look at all of their releases, each one is quite different. His voice is always evolving, or devolving and changing. His voice will, in my opinion be slightly less husky next time around, and I hope a little less nasal, but we'll see. It's not the strong clean singing that did his voice in, so he can always go back to that more. The reason he went nasal a lot was to hit the higher notes because the new songs required it, or so I read in an interview with him.
I know why he sang the higher notes, you're not understanding what i'm saying again, he will yes proably change his singing slightly, but not like what he did on WTF, he would not risk his voice again.

[Follow The Reaper]

Which A7X song has the best drums? I would have to say either 'Remenissions' or 'Chapter Four'.
Quit with the drum crap, that's a complete opinion, so nothing really intelligent can come from it.

[-:Vincent:-]

Quit with the drum crap, that's a complete opinion, so nothing really intelligent can come from it.

lol...all the other stuff you've been posting has been complete opinion...

[Shadius]

Reaper, you're funny.

I like the drums in some of their new stuff. The percussion in Sidewinder was great. Fitted the song so well with the salsa style guitars and such. The drumming is pretty above average on most A7X songs though, no clear better drumming song though really.

[Shadius]

Reaper, you're funny.

I like the drums in some of their new stuff. The percussion in Sidewinder was great. Fitted the song so well.

Just because it's your opinion dosn't mean its everyone elses! This isn't intelligent! I am not funny. I am serious. You just don't get me.

/Reaper

[-:Vincent:-]

Reaper, you're funny.

I like the drums in some of their new stuff. The percussion in Sidewinder was great. Fitted the song so well.

Yeah, he did a good job with it...not one of his more impressive drums but it does go great with the song.

[-:Vincent:-]

Reaper, you're funny.

I like the drums in some of their new stuff. The percussion in Sidewinder was great. Fitted the song so well with the salsa style guitars and such. The drumming is pretty above average on most A7X songs though, no clear better drumming song though really.

The Reverend doesn't overdo it though. He knows when to put fills in and when not to. It gives the music a nice flow.

[Shadius]

Yeah, he did a good job with it...not one of his more impressive drums but it does go great with the song.

Aye, I was suprised. Quite inventive. You can also hear that rattle sound at the beginning of... Was it Strength of the World? Must have got himself some new toys.

[Follow The Reaper]

Just because it's your opinion dosn't mean its everyone elses! This isn't intelligent! I am not funny. I am serious. You just don't get me.

/Reaper
So I reply to my own posts, then after that edit the original one, and in the second post I do a terrible job of making fun of the first one?

EDIT: Shadius, do you have AIM, their is no reason to spam up MX anymore?

[Shadius]

I don't no, sorry. Good idea trying though. This is providing needless spam on the forums.

To be honest, I thought it was clear I was making fun of your need to remind everyone that it's only opinions while you spout your own as fact.

A lot of metalcore kids only listen to metalcore, understand? They will not like any other music, and class it as bad music because it does not contain elements of metalcore, ie: No screaming, no heavy guitars, even if it happens to be widely accepted as a good song. I find this funny. I find it funny when a band produces a CD of good quality, and obviously a lot of effort and skill has gone into it, rather than blatently selling out, and a load of kids whine about how its different and how they've sold out and theres no screaming and how they suck because of that simple fact. I've seen many of them do that on other websites.

These people DO not like the new CD because of the scene they're into. If 80's influenced metal became a big part of their scene, they would probably like it a lot more (Obviously the vocals and whatnot are still taste though).

I'm not saying they have to like it. I'm not sayign everyone should like it. Some people have better reasons for not liking it, but the "it's not metalcore anymore" reason amuses me. It dosn't have to amuse you, I'm not asking for your permission.

I do hope we understand each other now.

[The Buttloaves]

Bitches, this is my OPINION, so don't get all pissed and **** your pants. They were "ok" in the WTF days. I recently heard "Bat Country". What is this ****. It sucked. It was terrible. Someone upload some songs from their new album to change my mind or something, if the whole album is like that one song, damn that's one lame album.

[Follow The Reaper]

Alright, truths for now... :)

[Follow The Reaper]

Bitches, this is my OPINION, so don't get all pissed and **** your pants. They were "ok" in the WTF days. I recently heard "Bat Country". What is this ****. It sucked. It was terrible. Someone upload some songs from their new album to change my mind or something, if the whole album is like that one song, damn that's one lame album.
I'll upload the album in a second.

[Shadius]

Bitches, this is my OPINION, so don't get all pissed and **** your pants. They were "ok" in the WTF days. I recently heard "Bat Country". What is this ****. It sucked. It was terrible. Someone upload some songs from their new album to change my mind or something, if the whole album is like that one song, damn that's one lame album.

Why do you think it's bad? The chorus is catchy, it has heavy moments. The guitar solo is very good. I think the harmonies are nice. *shrug* His voice is weak on the higher notes, thats all I can really fault on that song.

You just not into the 80's influenced style? Personally I don't like a lot of 80's metal, but I like how A7X put their spin on it.

[Moses]

I think Sidewinder and Wicked End are the best songs on this album.

I'll upload them both.

[-:Vincent:-]

WTF is their best album (in my opinion), but COE isn't bad...especially bat country.

[Shadius]

I have a question Reaper, how is singing like he did on WTF risking his voice? It was the screams that did his voice in. If he SINGS like he did on WTF he'd be fine, theres no way that that style of strong singing damages your voice, it's the throaty growly stuff that's damaging. Whether he can actually do it anymore after the operation is debatable, but i'm sure he'd be able to come up with something similar after he lets his voice adjust.

[Moses]

Quit with the drum crap, that's a complete opinion, so nothing really intelligent can come from it.
Every reason that internet forums are started for is sharing opinions.

[Follow The Reaper]

I have a question Reaper, how is singing like he did on WTF risking his voice? It was the screams that did his voice in. If he SINGS like he did on WTF he'd be fine, theres no way that that style of strong singing damages your voice, it's the throaty growly stuff that's damaging. Whether he can actually do it anymore after the operation is debatable, but i'm sure he'd be able to come up with something similar after he lets his voice adjust.
I thought we were gonna stop this, but anyway, I was talking about his yelling/singing style together.

[Follow The Reaper]

Every reason that internet forums are started for is sharing opinions.
Yeah, I was just kinda mad at him for what he did earlier with http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9183211&postcount=746 that post.

[Shadius]

I thought we were gonna stop this, but anyway, I was talking about his yelling/singing style together.

Oh, good to know you didn't understand what I was saying then. Problem solved.

Does anyone else like the fact they're going more "experimental"? You know, with the strings sections, and longer songs with acoustic moments, followed by melodic riffs, followed by heavier bits? I adore it. I hope they continue to go more experimental with their work.

[Moses]

People post guitar tabs in here too. Discussing vocals shouldn't be any different than discussing drums.

Also Shadius I like their new style way better all together. Too much metalcore already and it wasn't highly original in the first place.

[Follow The Reaper]

People post guitar tabs in here too. Discussing vocals shouldn't be any different than discussing drums.
No, he was asking if that was how to play it, and if someone could tell him how to play that part, after I told him to take it to the drum forum.

Oh, good to know you didn't understand what I was saying then. Problem solved.

Does anyone else like the fact they're going more "experimental"? You know, with the strings sections, and longer songs with acoustic moments, followed by melodic riffs, followed by heavier bits? I adore it. I hope they continue to go more experimental with their work.
I did understand, but you didn't get that. About the experimental part, I really like the new style they have, I love how they can go from acoustic moments to heavier moments in an instant.

[Moses]

No, he was asking if that was how to play it, and if someone could tell him how to play that part, after I told him to take it to the drum forum.
You know the Drum forum isn't the only place to ask drum questions. Alot of people that play drums don't even go in the drum forum, they just stay in R&M. I play Piano, Drums, Guitar and Bass but I rarely even go into any of the forums. Also you have no right to tell someone to do anything they don't want to do and then get mad at them again when they already did what you asked, so stop parading around like NRMOTM is some kind of holy title because I had it back in April and there were actually more than two contestants.

I already have....so i'm posting it anywhere poeple may be able to help.

You also didn't see this post obviously. Is it a crime to ask a question? Did it hurt you in anyway? Jeeze people are so anal here.

[Shadius]

You also didn't see this post obviously. Is it a crime to ask a question? Did it hurt you in anyway? Jeeze people are so anal here.

:lol:

Probably the last time I come to this thread.

[Follow The Reaper]

You know the Drum forum isn't the only place to ask drum questions. Alot of people that play drums don't even go in the drum forum, they just stay in R&M. I play Piano, Drums, Guitar and Bass but I rarely even go into any of the forums. Also you have no right to tell someone to do anything they don't want to do and then get mad at them again when they already did what you asked.
You say this, then when someone posts a thread dealing with Pink Floyd you get pissed off and tell them to go to the official Floyd thread, I like Pink Floyd, but I don't visit the Official thread. We posted at more or less the same time, I didn't see his post about it.

So stop parading around like NRMOTM is some kind of holy title because I had it back in April and there were actually more than two contestants.

When did I ever say NRMOTM, I know everything, I know more then anyone else!

You stop parading like you know everthing, and like you should be the most respected person ever.

[Moses]

I don't even remember the Pink Floyd thing but making a Tool thread when there is a huge thread about it already it will get deleted. I never get pissed about those types of threads being made but I do inform the new user about the rule that exists.

The reason I said stop parading around like that is because you told the guy to shut up about drums and acted like you could order him around when all he wants to do is talk about drums.

I'm only a respected person on this forum because of my threads and helpfulness on the site. Show me where I was parading around and I'll be glad to explain myself.

Uploads for Buttloaves:

Sidewinder (http://rapidshare.de/files/3990963/07_Sidewinder.mp3.html)
The Wicked End (http://rapidshare.de/files/3990974/08_The_Wicked_End.mp3.html)

[-:Vincent:-]

ANYWAY...what do you think of their new style (clothes)? Like that other guy said, they dress almost like good charolette (i hate them...for my own reasons). It doesn't seem to suit a metal band, but I guess if they like it...

[Follow The Reaper]

I don't care how they look as long as they fukkin rock.

Moses, I would like to talk to you, can you get on AIM?

[Moses]

I'm on.

[Special Brew]

You stop parading like you know everthing, and like you should be the most respected person ever.
He is Moses after all...

[deathscreamingsheep]

A lot of people who who don't like the new style don't like it because all they listen to is hardcore/metalcore. Go look on a ton of forums reviewing their new CD and you'll see what i'm talking about. I'm sure many people are open minded and don't like his singing style on COE, thats not what i'm saying. But those kids make me laugh, they ARE funny, either that, or extremely irritating. Honestly, go look, if you don't see the close mindedness and same old rantings of "OMG NO SCREAMING SUX THEY SOLD OUT MAN"... Well, you'll see it. I think it's funny, i'm allowed to. So shush.

LoL, I remember posting something along these lines on another forum full of hardcore kids who refused point blank to listen to anything else and getting about 4 pages worth of spam along the lines of: ScReeMiNg iZ tEh RoCkOrZ!!111

It was at that point I decided to give up on that argument.

Anyway, now that I've seen them live I can say that his live singing voice is gritty (in a clean vocal way) and different. What I put this down to is simply more practice with his new voice and more vocal training (someone told me M Shadows had a trainer to relearn singing). I am sure therefore, that on their next album his singing voice will have improved and be able to keep the range of notes he hits on City of Evil. If you think about it CoE was recorded a relatively short time after he busted his blood vessel so the times he seems to be straining a lot is probably because he was still recovering his voice at the time.

[juztyn-2112]

I hated the album at first, its grown on me recently though. The vocals are the hardest thing to get used to...

[-:Vincent:-]

I hated the album at first, its grown on me recently though. The vocals are the hardest thing to get used to...

That was my main problem with COE. The vocals did seem strained, but I guess I can get used to it. However, I still say WTF is the best album they've had so far.

[AA-12]

I think the vocals are by far the best now. His voice is much more trained. I also definitely say that CoE is their best album by far.

[pep]

hey, I read in guitar world that CoE included death western riffs, and I had no idea what that is. can someone tell me what they are?

[Huber]

I think the vocals are by far the best now. His voice is much more trained. I also definitely say that CoE is their best album by far.

I'm so addicted to it now. Trashed and Scattered, Bat Country, Burn It Down, and everything else, amazing tracks. It definetly contends for there best.

[born_into_darkness3]

I'm so addicted to it now. Trashed and Scattered, Bat Country, Burn It Down, and everything else, amazing tracks. It definetly contends for there best.
Though COE comes close........I'd have to go with WTF as their best. Unholy Confessions, Chapter 4, Eternal Rest, I Won't See You Tonight pt. 1......I could go on and on.

[Huber]

Yeah, WTF is amazing. I'd think about which I like more, but I'd rather listen to them.

[loathed]

Both COE and WTF are amazing in their own ways. i like both. I wont see you tonight is amazing. :thumb:

[deathscreamingsheep]

I'm seeing them live again in september (at Brixton Academy), only problem is planning a route there without being shot at/mugged by the various chav gangs...

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

A7X is a great band IMO COE has to be my fav. cd by them.

[Anonymous]

Loved Waking the Fallen, still waiting to get City of Evil.

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

Loved Waking the Fallen, still waiting to get City of Evil.
meet me on AIM. my screen name is bleedingheart344.

[Janick-MurraySmith]

at least they are advancing

[loathed]

i'd reckon their next album will be better in 2 -3 years...lets hope. :amaze:

[NEVRMORE2]

i'd reckon their next album will be better in 2 -3 years...lets hope. :amaze:
yeah his voice will be more trained and hopefully theyll get out of that punk scene i find them to be like biggums on the chappelle show hes black but he thinks hes white. these guys are metal but think there punk :p

[-:Vincent:-]

I don't really see how they can be considered punk...

[Moses]

yeah his voice will be more trained and hopefully theyll get out of that punk scene i find them to be like biggums on the chappelle show hes black but he thinks hes white. these guys are metal but think there punk :p
What!?!?

Biggums is the crack addict right? A7X knows they are metal too. Who said they were punk?

[loathed]

A7X knows they are metal too. Who said they were punk?

they're metal...but have influences of punk.

[Mossy]

City of Evil is an absolutely amazing album, its hardly left my CD player since I bought it, I think its in my top 3 albums of all time

Fave song, Betrayed

[Klander Brigade]

There's something I like about them, but at the same time something I despise about them and I don't know what it is.

[pep]

Maybe its the way they look... But anyway, theyre a kick *** band.

[Huber]

I respect them for looking that way really. I'm not a fan of the emo-esque styles or anything, but it kinda shows that they want to do there own thing. They don't give two ****s what people think of there look, no matter how whacky it seems when they play the music.

[NewSyn]

This band is the greatest. Hey the way he sings is so he doesn't sound weird trying to sing fast. Higher notes sound better than low notes in fast paced songs. I like the way he sounds on the new songs. I'm sure he can sing low still though, give him a few years to work on the higher notes and then on the next cd they'll probablly use both. The next ones gonna be awesome, can't wait to here the new guitar riffs.

[EverytimeIBodom]

This band is the greatest. Hey the way he sings is so he doesn't sound weird trying to sing fast. Higher notes sound better than low notes in fast paced songs. I like the way he sounds on the new songs. I'm sure he can sing low still though, give him a few years to work on the higher notes and then on the next cd they'll probablly use both. The next ones gonna be awesome, can't wait to here the new guitar riffs.
Grunting? Ever heard of that?

[NewSyn]

why grunt when you can do it like that. anyways it's good for his voice to learn that stuff gives him more of a variation. well just have to see how much he's improved with it on the next album. i like it anyways. he had to learn how to sing completley different from what he's used to in like a year though so that's pretty good.

[-:Vincent:-]

They have nice lyrics and vocals, but I'm more intrested in the drums and the guitars, thats where A7X really comes in strong.

[Moses]

they're metal...but have influences of punk.
So does Slayer.

This band is the greatest. Hey the way he sings is so he doesn't sound weird trying to sing fast. Higher notes sound better than low notes in fast paced songs. I like the way he sounds on the new songs. I'm sure he can sing low still though, give him a few years to work on the higher notes and then on the next cd they'll probablly use both. The next ones gonna be awesome, can't wait to here the new guitar riffs.
Ever listen to Mike Patton?

[Huber]

So does Slayer.

That's a totally different realm of metal.

[Moses]

Exactly. I'm saying that anyone can have punk influence. I hear almost none in the new album either way. Also that one guy said "they are metal but think they are punk". I don't think this guy knows what A7x thinks.

[Huber]

Exactly. I'm saying that anyone can have punk influence. I hear almost none in the new album.

Yeah, I'm kinda straying away from the "punk influence" thing, because it's prominent in a few songs, but others it's completely absent.

[Hep Kat]

a7x is the worst band ever

[loathed]

Exactly. I'm saying that anyone can have punk influence. I hear almost none in the new album either way

i agree that theyre lastest album has almost none or really little punk influences...however, im pretty sure WTF has. :confused:

a7x is the worst band ever

by gawd, youre the worst poster ever!!! get lost, we dont want to see you ever again! you calling a7x the worst band ever is just like me saying youre not an idiot! scram!!!! :cool:

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

a7x is the worst band ever


Don't post in a thread dedicated to a band in this fashion ever again, no matter what ever band it is.

Back up your opinion or **** off and die.

[Hep Kat]

despite the fact that gates and vengance are talented they otherwise suck i don't understand everyone's obsession with waking the fallen i bought it because i liked chapter 4 but everything else is just loud annoying screaming with drop-d down a step tuning and i'm sorry but thats crap

[Kingofdudes]

You wanna use your new found rep on someone bobo?

edit: ha, Remenissions came on just as I posted this

[PeEpHoLe_10]

despite the fact that gates and vengance are talented they otherwise suck i don't understand everyone's obsession with waking the fallen i bought it because i liked chapter 4 but everything else is just loud annoying screaming with drop-d down a step tuning and i'm sorry but thats crap

Chapter 4 isn't a raidcal depature from any of the other songs on the album, so why would you like that song and despise the rest?

Also,can you please try and use some full stops in your posts. It makes it kinda hard to read.

[deathscreamingsheep]

despite the fact that gates and vengance are talented they otherwise suck i don't understand everyone's obsession with waking the fallen i bought it because i liked chapter 4 but everything else is just loud annoying screaming with drop-d down a step tuning and i'm sorry but thats crap

Hardly any of A7X's songs are in Dropped-D down a full step tuning. There is nothing wrong with screaming if used effectively and more importantly their new album is completely different.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

There is nothing wrong with screaming if used effectively and more importantly their new album is completely different.

Quoted for truth.

[loathed]

good thing that guy got banned...

[crossfireband.biz]

You know I really dont care what anyone else says about them ... the newiest album has some of the best guitar work Ive heard in a long time...and track 7 finishes with a bad *** guitar solo in acuistic...arpegios all the way...then to a fast paced guitar duel....bands don't release **** like that anymore....

[deathscreamingsheep]

^^ I loved their new album too: Sidewinder's solo was great.

Not everyone prefers WTF, opinion is just divided.

[loathed]

true...

[bassplayer5540]

i think all of there albums are great. is anyone gonna go see them on october 17 in
ft. lauderdale.

[Silenius]

I think Avenged Sevenfold are an image oriented band. They even say so. "We want to be different because we're a Christian Metal band and we're not politically correct" (loosely quoted)

[Follow The Reaper]

I think Avenged Sevenfold are an image oriented band. They even say so. "We want to be different because we're a Christian Metal band and we're not politically correct" (loosely quoted)
I didn't know that Christian Metal bands were allowed to say ****.

[Silenius]

I didn't know that Christian Metal bands were allowed to say ****.
They're rebelling. :amaze:

[Follow The Reaper]

Against Christian Metal, that's hardcore!


/Lame

[Arucard]

Their not even Christian.

[FlyingPaul_83]

the vocals don't really fit the music for the new album, which is great by the way.

[Follow The Reaper]

Really, I think that on CoE the vocals fit in perfectlly with the music.

[Silenius]

Their not even Christian.
yeah, they are, all their names and even their band name are from the bible,

[Huber]

That could be a kind of mockery. Using something like the Bible as an influence instead of a faith is possible.

However, I have no idea whether they're Christian or not, just a possibility.

[Arucard]

yeah, they are, all their names and even their band name are from the bible,

Im not stupid, but they are not. The band name is from the bible yes, but do you think drugged up sex junkies are Christians?

[loathed]

their name is from the bible, but theyre not christian.

[burn_my_eyes]

Love their old stuff

Their new stuff doesn't do it for me...
I'm not impressed by M Shadows like I used to be.

[deathscreamingsheep]

The only annoying thing about them is their 'drugs-are-leik-sooo-cool' attitude. I mean in one interview (I think for Kerrang), they spent the whole thing going on about how many needles and stuff they've shared... I mean, who actually cares what poisons you've taken?

[tamango salad]

The only annoying thing about them is their 'drugs-are-leik-sooo-cool' attitude. I mean in one interview (I think for Kerrang), they spent the whole thing going on about how many needles and stuff they've shared... I mean, who actually cares what poisons you've taken?

yeah, but they are also quoted to say that they f*ck with the magazines and that readers should take anything they say in an article "with a grain of salt"

[Follow The Reaper]

That could be a kind of mockery. Using something like the Bible as an influence instead of a faith is possible.

However, I have no idea whether they're Christian or not, just a possibility.
THey might be christian, just not Christian Metal.

[Moses]

Im not stupid, but they are not. The band name is from the bible yes, but do you think drugged up sex junkies are Christians?
You really can never tell, and besides Christians are no better/worse than anyone else on this planet. They also could be interpreting the Bible a different way. They could say "where in the Bible does it say that using drugs is a sin" and the same thing about sex. Yes the adultery commandment does say things about sex but I think it just means cheating, not haveing premarital sex.

[Silenius]

Im not stupid, but they are not. The band name is from the bible yes, but do you think drugged up sex junkies are Christians?
They claim that they make the music as an outlet for Christians who want to be different, as I read in a interview in RockHard magazine. They seem to have strong ties to it christianity even if they themselves are not. that was not my point, my point was they are a very image oriented band.

[Tillius]

a7x is the worst band ever
Thanks for displaying your great intelligence. Way to keep it simple. Dumbass. :rolleyes:

[A7X_Guitarist]

The only annoying thing about them is their 'drugs-are-leik-sooo-cool' attitude. I mean in one interview (I think for Kerrang), they spent the whole thing going on about how many needles and stuff they've shared... I mean, who actually cares what poisons you've taken?

It was Kerrang yeah..That kind of thing does annoy me to be honest but you can never tell in magazines as sarcasm can easily be misinterpreted
They also said something offensive about Atreyu but i forgot what
All I know is that was the start of the rivallry between the two bands
Does anyone actually have the article because I havent read it and I missed the bloody issue

[MegaMustaine]

I still think their older album is a lot better than their new one. I have both, and I hate the vocals on City of Evil. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of them on the other album, but it just seems a lot less-heavy with the vocals on City of Evil. I really wish they would go back to their old style.

[the pie.]

anybody read the article in this months total guitar?

it was quite god. no tabs or licks though...

[Shattered_Future]

I still think their older album is a lot better than their new one. I have both, and I hate the vocals on City of Evil. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of them on the other album, but it just seems a lot less-heavy with the vocals on City of Evil. I really wish they would go back to their old style.

They can't, owing to the fact that their singer burst a blood vessel in his throat (I'm sure you know this already).

I just wish Shadows would abandon all the nasaly high crap and go back to his Hetfield-esque singing voice. I loved that...it was better than his screaming.

[whatever009]

I love them! They rule

[loathed]

shadows should just maybe stop trying to sing high...and sing like he normally does. which means that he produces that kind of low end rapsy voice. which IMO is better than his high pitched singing. go to a a7x gig now and hear shadows sing. thats somewhat i'd like him to sing on the next album... :thumb:

[PeEpHoLe_10]

They can't, owing to the fact that their singer burst a blood vessel in his throat (I'm sure you know this already).

I just wish Shadows would abandon all the nasaly high crap and go back to his Hetfield-esque singing voice. I loved that...it was better than his screaming.

Yeah i really do like his old singing voice, but i still like his new stlye a fair bit.

[-:Vincent:-]

There's something I like about them, but at the same time something I despise about them and I don't know what it is.

you said that about something else....i think its the PSP.

[-:Vincent:-]

I think Avenged Sevenfold are an image oriented band. They even say so. "We want to be different because we're a Christian Metal band and we're not politically correct" (loosely quoted)

Did they really say that??? I know they got their name from the bible and some of their songs are based from it also (Chapter Four, Beast and the Harlot etc..), as well as their album names. But they can't be christian...COE has too much language, and..........yeah. But I just wanted to know if that's what they really said?

[Moses]

But they can't be christian...COE has too much language, and..........yeah.

You really can never tell, and besides Christians are no better/worse than anyone else on this planet. They also could be interpreting the Bible a different way. They could say "where in the Bible does it say that using drugs is a sin" and the same thing about sex. Yes the adultery commandment does say things about sex but I think it just means cheating, not haveing premarital sex.

Same thing goes for language. Foul language is not a sin, but disrespecting your God is.

[loathed]

a7x are not christians!!!! period! :angry:

[Moses]

a7x are not christians!!!! period! :angry:
How do you know? Does that make them less respectable?

[loathed]

i read on one of their interviews somewhere. they clearly stated that although their name is based on the bible. the band isnt christian. and no it doesnt make them less respectable. theyre one of my favourite bands...

[Moses]

What interview? Where? Find it and I'll believe you. I think they could be Christian but I'm not positive.

[MegaMustaine]

shadows should just maybe stop trying to sing high...and sing like he normally does. which means that he produces that kind of low end rapsy voice. which IMO is better than his high pitched singing. go to a a7x gig now and hear shadows sing. thats somewhat i'd like him to sing on the next album... :thumb:

123 he sucked live. He couldn't sing Unholy confessions for dogshit

[loathed]

What interview? Where? Find it and I'll believe you. I think they could be Christian but I'm not positive.

im too lazy to find it now. sorry. to a google or yahoo search or something. but im pretty positive i read it somewhere.

123 he sucked live. He couldn't sing Unholy confessions for dog****

can you sing like that after you ruptured a blood vessel? if not. shut your trap. and btw, he sings the screaming parts with some sort of a rapsy/rough voice now. instead of the usual screaming. and its still not that bad.

[Shadius]

What interview? Where? Find it and I'll believe you. I think they could be Christian but I'm not positive.

Moses. I read an interview where Shadows said he wasn't really Christian and I think he spoke for the rest of the band and said they wern't either, and they didn't really have any particular beliefs. he said he enjoyed singing about over the top things like the end of the world, and obvious christian related themes though because they're over the top and such. It might take a while to find...

Oh, and I think their attitude is funny. It's the rock and roll attitude, go along with it, take it with a pinch of salt, laugh at it. They're having a great time and they encourage others to do so too. Let's just hope they don't get some venereal diseases from hookers, or AIDS from the needles or whatnot.

So much for me not posting in this thread again... :upset:

[Arucard]

And as a point, the bible says drugs are wrong when it says that your body is a holy temple, and that you shouldnt harm it in anyway. Im not a Christian, but i know that that covers drugs.

[NewSyn]

Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe they are just non denominational?

[i am the robots]

They stated they are "NOT CHRISTIAN" which would make it impossible for them to be non denominational, wouldn't it? The term you're looking for is Agnostic.

[NewSyn]

They can be Christians and not believe in necesarily all of the christian beliefs. They probablly grew up around a bunch of christians in their family and learned from them. If you believe in God and are not a Christian than you can be considered non denominational also.

[NewSyn]

I'm non denominational

[AA-12]

They can be Christians and not believe in necesarily all of the christian beliefs.
Yep, that's about what I do.

[-:Vincent:-]

......well it is intersesting how most of their music is strongly influenced by bibical passages and such....but I think we've pretty much figured out that their not christian. right?

[mmfan486]

And as a point, the bible says drugs are wrong when it says that your body is a holy temple, and that you shouldnt harm it in anyway. Im not a Christian, but i know that that covers drugs.
Yeah, but if you think of how many things drugs covers... there's your medicine to keep you alive, illegal **** to get you high, and the basic ones like Alcohol and chocolate.

[Tillius]

......well it is intersesting how most of their music is strongly influenced by bibical passages and such....but I think we've pretty much figured out that their not christian. right?
Pretty much.

[tamango salad]

Yeah, but if you think of how many things drugs covers... there's your medicine to keep you alive, illegal **** to get you high, and the basic ones like Alcohol and chocolate.

if it covers alcohol then why did everyone in the bible drink wine?

and i thoguht this was an a7x thread not a religion thread

[loathed]

okay, lets stop this religion debate. and carry on talking about a7x. :p

[Epicurus]

I got City of evil before listening to any of their stuff before it and it turned me off them quite abit. The guitarist's arent to bad though.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

What don't you like about City of Evil?

[-:Vincent:-]

He should get Waking the Fallen....its a better CD

[loathed]

IMO, city of evil is technically better...while waking the fallen is...well overall better. :confused: what am i saying? :lol:

[-:Vincent:-]

IMO, city of evil is technically better...while waking the fallen is...well overall better. :confused: what am i saying? :lol:

Yeah, I get what your saying...

[Arucard]

I got City of evil before listening to any of their stuff before it and it turned me off them quite abit. The guitarist's arent to bad though.

This is coming from the guy with a Mastadon user name and an Alexi Laiho avatar.

:lol:

[PeEpHoLe_10]

He should get Waking the Fallen....its a better CD

Thats very debatable.

[Shattered_Future]

I say he gets WTF...everything's a lot tighter on that then STST.

COE is hit or miss, i think...pretty much comes down to the vocals. You either love them or hate them.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Actually, i think the vocals are pretty good, nothing special. I like the singing parts on WTF more.

[-:Vincent:-]

Ok, everyon in this thread, do me a favor and go to the final fantasy thread (pit, video games and movies) and tell them how much A7X kicks ***

[i am the robots]

Ah, to a A7X nub, get Waking The Fallen... why? It's less generic than STST, and it has more balance/variation, also, Shadows was at the peek of his skill, unfortunately his throat/lungs got owned.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Ok, everyon in this thread, do me a favor and go to the final fantasy thread (pit, video games and movies) and tell them how much A7X kicks ***


Okay?

[-:Vincent:-]

yep.....hehe I kinda got in this arguement they said beatles were better (as in more talented) then A7X....I don't know if you guys agree with that but still....ringos drums=crap.

[-:Vincent:-]

lol....thanks Arucard, stupid beatles....

[PeEpHoLe_10]

yep.....hehe I kinda got in this arguement they said beatles were better (as in more talented) then A7X....I don't know if you guys agree with that but still....ringos drums=crap.

Oh i see. I dont agree with them. The Beatles, talent wise, arent very good at all.

[loathed]

yep.....hehe I kinda got in this arguement they said beatles were better (as in more talented) then A7X....I don't know if you guys agree with that but still....ringos drums=crap.

a7x are WAY more talented than beatles in every department...guitars, bass, drums and vocals. IMO. :thumb:

[-:Vincent:-]

Oh i see. I dont agree with them. The Beatles, talent wise, arent very good at all.

thats exactly what I thought....and then they said that the drums were average, and the guitars were just power chords, thats when I got pretty pissed :angry: power chords??? how could they....

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Haha, they said the Drumming in Avenged is average? I know he's not the best best drummer in the world,but compared to Ringo, The Reverend is God.

[-:Vincent:-]

Haha, they said the Drumming in Avenged is average? I know he's not the best best drummer in the world,but compared to Ringo, The Reverend is God.

couldn't agree more...I told them to listen to the intro of chapter four as well.

[Arucard]

Power chords? Try advanced sweeping, idiots.

And The Reverand is incredible.

[Moses]

I wouldn't say The Rev is incredible but he's definately pretty good.

Innovation and overall songwriting: Beatles>A7X

Skill and Energy: A7X>Beatles

[Arucard]

I dunno about either of that. Innovation yes, song writing no.

He is a great drummer, he can hold is own against some of the fastest Death and PM drummers out there, but hes alot more original and uses alot of variation.

Michael Van Dyne all the way though.

[Moses]

I'd say A7X has more complex songwriting but there's never a time where I'm not in the mood to listen to the Beatles.

[loathed]

to be honest, i guess a7x has way more talent than the beatles had. IMO. no disrespect though. :thumb:

[Itwasthatwas]

Well, I can't understand why you would want to compare A7X and the Beatles in the first place, but...

A7X destroys the beatle's talentwise. But I can see where they were coming for with the power chord bit, they must have been talking about all the punk influences in A7X. But they would have had to really selectively listened to A7X's stuff and ignored all the countless more complex parts entirely. Anyone who tries to put the Beatles up guitarwise against A7X has to be deaf.

[Special Brew]

The Beatles and A7X? What the hell brought up that comparison? A7X is technically more skilled, but The Beatles are by far the better song and melody writers. They are completely different though, I don't see what point could be made by comparing them.

[Itwasthatwas]

A7X is technically more skilled, but The Beatles are by far the better song and melody writers.

Unlike technicality, that can't be accurately judged because your pick would depend on personal taste. I personally like A7Xs songs far better than those of the Beatles.

[Arucard]

Whoever trolled the Beatles thread, don't do it. I'll have you banned personally.

[Special Brew]

Unlike technicality, that can't be accurately judged because your pick would depend on personal taste. I personally like A7Xs songs far better than those of the Beatles.
You're right. I just think The Beatles have much catchier melodies that seem to get stuck in your head for days. But, A7X does the same thing to me with their guitar lines, not their vocals.

I love 'em both, but in completely different ways :p

[Tillius]

Let's begin a discussion on Synyster Gates.....cause if I do it somewhere else....they will get pissed and move it in here anyway.

[Arucard]

He can sweep really well, and i love his riffs.

:)

[Tillius]

He's gotta be one of the best guitarists there is.

[Special Brew]

I wouldn't say the best but he is friggin' amazing.

[Tillius]

I said ONE of the best.

[Turkish]

he's no Jimmy Page but he is freaking amazing with some of the stuff he creates.

[-:Vincent:-]

Who does the back up singing??

[Turkish]

Synyster and Zacky I think.

[Follow The Reaper]

Live Synster and Zacky do, but on the albums it's all M. Shadows.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

He's gotta be one of the best guitarists there is.


Not really. Anyways, comparing guitarist talent wise is a silly thing to try and do. There are so many great guitarists out there.

[-:Vincent:-]

Live Synster and Zacky do, but on the albums it's all M. Shadows.

On WTF he does all the high stuff in the background too??? Doesn't sound like him, but it could be. Are Synster and Zacky good live?

[loathed]

On WTF he does all the high stuff in the background too??? Doesn't sound like him, but it could be. Are Synster and Zacky good live?

theyre alright...i'd imagine both synyster and zacky would have to sing even more since M Shadows burst his blood vessel.

anyway, synyster is an amazing guitarist. and zacky's teamwork with him is top class :thumb:
oh and i have always been wanting to ask. do you know how zacky and synyster do those dual guitar solos live? or does just synyster play it while zacky plays the ryhthm? :confused:

[-:Vincent:-]

Sorry, I wouldn't know (I'm a drummer), but the guitars sound great. Who here has seen them live?

[bassplayer5540]

yeah, they are, all their names and even their band name are from the bible,
well go and read this and u will understand that their names are just mocking the religion http://music.yahoo.com/ar-283793-bio--Avenged-Sevenfold

[loathed]

well go and read this and u will understand that their names are just mocking the religion http://music.yahoo.com/ar-283793-bio--Avenged-Sevenfold

the bio doesnt show that their names are just mocking the religion...it just says that they have fake or "stage" names associated with christianity... :cool:

[Tillius]

Sorry, I wouldn't know (I'm a drummer), but the guitars sound great. Who here has seen them live?
I saw them at Warped Tour. It was great. I was going to see them in San Antonio but all Texas shows got cancelled for some reason. :upset:

[bassplayer5540]

the bio doesnt show that their names are just mocking the religion...it just says that they have fake or "stage" names associated with christianity... :cool:
well if u also look it says there is nothing religous about this band

[Special Brew]

theyre alright...i'd imagine both synyster and zacky would have to sing even more since M Shadows burst his blood vessel.

anyway, synyster is an amazing guitarist. and zacky's teamwork with him is top class :thumb:
oh and i have always been wanting to ask. do you know how zacky and synyster do those dual guitar solos live? or does just synyster play it while zacky plays the ryhthm? :confused:
They play the harmonies live as well. It sounds just like the albums except on a few parts where they need 3+ guitars going.

I've seen them twice so far, once last year and once this year, but I have been a fan for a long while now.

[a7xdrummer00]

Their new CD went in a different direction than most expected. People who are now hating on them, it's because they're on MTV. I don't like it much either, but what can ya do. I've loved this band for so long, they grew onto me and I can't just let them go because they are finally hitting it big. You guys can't really say one album is worse than the other. They all seem to have different styles on each cd. But the Rev's drumming really came out in City of Evil. In Waking the Fallen, it was easy stuff to follow, I could play along with it. But now in City of Evil, there's some pretty tough stuff!

[loathed]

They play the harmonies live as well. It sounds just like the albums except on a few parts where they need 3+ guitars going.

I've seen them twice so far, once last year and once this year, but I have been a fan for a long while now.

wow, that must be quite a feat...cause im pretty sure they have lots of songs that have dual guitar leads =/

[AA-12]

I'm seeing them in a month.

[Tillius]

well if u also look it says there is nothing religous about this band
Dude....I noticed your avatar so I figured I'd ask.......do you think you could make me an avatar with Synyster Gates playing the guitar?

[Huber]

He got his avatar A7X's website I think.

[Tillius]

He got his avatar A7X's website I think.
I can't find any there. :upset:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Their new CD went in a different direction than most expected. People who are now hating on them, it's because they're on MTV. I don't like it much either, but what can ya do. I've loved this band for so long, they grew onto me and I can't just let them go because they are finally hitting it big. You guys can't really say one album is worse than the other. They all seem to have different styles on each cd. But the Rev's drumming really came out in City of Evil. In Waking the Fallen, it was easy stuff to follow, I could play along with it. But now in City of Evil, there's some pretty tough stuff!
The Rev has always shown amazing drumming. Never the less I hate the new Avenged Sevenfold. The pain of hair metal.

[Arucard]

Its not hair metal. Also, your user title sucks at life.

[Arucard]

Who does the back up singing??

Mainly Synyster. He does loads live.

[Shadius]

I don't know what anyone else thinks, but I kinda admire them for doing what they want to do and playing what they want to play, and embodying the rock and roll way as much as they do.

I mean, the stuff they're playing on CoE isn't popular. There's no trendy scene for it, they're just playing the music they love even though they know they lose a hell of a lot of fans over it, and that in itself is pretty awesome.

[Tillius]

Waking the Fallen remains the best cd of theirs. IMO

[Follow The Reaper]

I think its ok, but I prefer CoE.

[-:Vincent:-]

ack...chapter fours intro to fast for me. I've been trying to learn it (on drums) but it's just too fast. If there's any drummers already here that can play the intro do you have any tips for me? I can play pretty much the rest of it...

Btw, someone finally tabbed out "Bat Country", I can't wait to take a better look at it :thumb:

[waronpeace]

i just want to clear something up... according to the AP interview and seeing them. he CAN scream, he DOESNT WANT TO scream becuase frankly its a new sound and its original and non filler. even if you dont like his new singing, get over it, they moved on to a more talented and difficult path

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Its not hair metal. Also, your user title sucks at life.
Well its got the cocky attitude of hair metal and sounds like it. My user title sucks?

[TMA]

Old stuff by them was good.
Songs like Darkness Surrounding
That song kicks major amounts of *ss

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Old stuff by them was good.
Songs like Darkness Surrounding
That song kicks major amounts of *ss
true.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Hey, is it true they've cancelled their tour of the UK?

[loathed]

not really sure, you should check it out on their website.

Old stuff by them was good.
Songs like Darkness Surrounding
That song kicks major amounts of *ss

thats true. i like darkness surrounding...

[ween2424]

I love 'City OF Evil' it's one of my new favorites. There are some killer guitar solos, and I love the drummers style. It's very quick and groovy.

[pep]

the changes on sidewinder sound like dream theater

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I don't know what anyone else thinks, but I kinda admire them for doing what they want to do and playing what they want to play, and embodying the rock and roll way as much as they do.

I mean, the stuff they're playing on CoE isn't popular. There's no trendy scene for it, they're just playing the music they love even though they know they lose a hell of a lot of fans over it, and that in itself is pretty awesome.

But I bet there will be a lot of bands that will like they're sound and rip them off and it will sadly run in cycles until the bands done.

[FlyingPaul_83]

can anyone link me to a pictue of their new album? I tried google and nothing came up.

[Arucard]

Hey, is it true they've cancelled their tour of the UK?

I think so, and im really annoyed.

[Tillius]

can anyone link me to a pictue of their new album? I tried google and nothing came up.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0009I7NNA.03.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
There you go. All you wanted was a picture right?

[FlyingPaul_83]

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0009I7NNA.03.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
There you go. All you wanted was a picture right?


yeah, but do you have a larger pic?

[Tillius]

yeah, but do you have a larger pic?
No.....sorry.

[FlyingPaul_83]

thanks anyway

[FlyingPaul_83]

sorry for killing the thread.


so..........................I heard bat country on the radio today, which is rare because they always play generic mainstream rock, so I got excited. Do your local Rock stations play A7X?

[loathed]

so..........................I heard bat country on the radio today, which is rare because they always play generic mainstream rock, so I got excited. Do your local Rock stations play A7X?

no they dont. my local radio stations suck. i'd reallly like to hear a7x on my local radio station...

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I don't listen to the radio, but i HIGHLY doubt Avenged would get on my local radio station.

[Tillius]

so..........................I heard bat country on the radio today, which is rare because they always play generic mainstream rock, so I got excited. Do your local Rock stations play A7X?
Yeah.....I was just as surprised as you when I heard Bat Country being played on the radio. Maybe their finally starting to get the fame they deserve. :D

[loathed]

oh dear, theyre starting to get commercialized!!! :naughty:

[Follow The Reaper]

WHy is that a bad thing?

[Tillius]

WHy is that a bad thing?
I see it as a good thing.

[Arrakakaka]

I can't seem to get into City Of Evil. I've tried, but Matt's clean vocals aren't my thing. Sounding the Seventh Trumpet was simply genius.

[Follow The Reaper]

I see it as a good thing.
As do I.

[loathed]

being commercialized may be a good thing and a bad thing...oh wells lets just hope that they progress with their songs. :thumb:

[Follow The Reaper]

Explain what you mean by "being commercialized may be a good thing, and a bad thing.".

[Tillius]

I can't seem to get into City Of Evil. I've tried, but Matt's clean vocals aren't my thing. Sounding the Seventh Trumpet was simply genius.
My favorite would have to be Waking the Fallen.
1.I Won't See You Tonight pt.1
2.Eternal Rest
3.Chapter 4
Best songs on there....or of Avenged Sevenfold. IMO Except for the fact that another favorite of theirs is MIA off of City of Evil.

[Crunchwrap Supreme!]

I can't seem to get into City Of Evil. I've tried, but Matt's clean vocals aren't my thing. Sounding the Seventh Trumpet was simply genius.

Good call. Still, you should try to accept the fact that they aren't going to make more awesome metalcore and get into the new sound. It took me long time to do it (STST will always be my favorite album), but I love City Of Evil now after calling it unlistenable when I first got it.

[i am the robots]

Eh? STST seems so entirely bland to me, save a few key songs like "We Come Out At Night" "The Art Of Subconcious Illusion" "Turn The Other Way" "Darkness Surrounding" and "Shattered By Broken Dreams" it's a solid album, but the guitarwork is very simplistic, and Matt's scream was too gravely to be good, plus his clean vocals were so very nasal. I prefer Waking The Fallen, Unholy Confessions and Chapter Four are good, but then after that, everything is freaking amazing, I mean... the guitarwork in Reminissions, the freaking Doom Metal intro of Desecrate Through Reverence, the all around awesomeness of Second Hearbeat...etc. that album is like ear sex [the good kind of ear sex].

[loathed]

but I love City Of Evil now after calling it unlistenable when I first got it.

yeaaa, i guess it kinda grows on you.

and yeaaa, i agree that WTF is their best album by far.

[AA-12]

I pretty much hate STST. WTF is pretty good but CoE just blows it all away. Better guitar/drums/bass/vocals/lyrics.

[loathed]

I pretty much hate STST. WTF is pretty good but CoE just blows it all away. Better guitar/drums/bass/vocals/lyrics.

CoE has better guitar/drums/bass but i disagree that it has better vocals and lyrics...WTF IMO has better vocals and lyrics.

[AA-12]

CoE has better guitar/drums/bass but i disagree that it has better vocals and lyrics...WTF IMO has better vocals and lyrics.
Shadow's vocals are much more trained and stable now. The lyrics are no longer generic though. They are just awesome. Much more epic.

[bassplayer5540]

Dude....I noticed your avatar so I figured I'd ask.......do you think you could make me an avatar with Synyster Gates playing the guitar?
well before they changed there site it was on there and now they dont have any its say coming soon but if u go to this there ar 3 pages of a7x iconshttp://www.iconator.com/search.php?query=avenged+sevenfold&catid=all-11

[bassplayer5540]

ack...chapter fours intro to fast for me. I've been trying to learn it (on drums) but it's just too fast. If there's any drummers already here that can play the intro do you have any tips for me? I can play pretty much the rest of it...

Btw, someone finally tabbed out "Bat Country", I can't wait to take a better look at it :thumb:
my brother knows how to play ills ask him to make a post

[loathed]

Shadow's vocals are much more trained and stable now. The lyrics are no longer generic though. They are just awesome. Much more epic.

well, i guess thats just down again to personal opinion...i really like shadow's clean voice and scream on WTF. and again, i feel that the lyrics on WTF owns CoEs. :wave:

[-:Vincent:-]

my brother knows how to play ills ask him to make a post

If he has anything good to say that would really help...

[Tillius]

well before they changed there site it was on there and now they dont have any its say coming soon but if u go to this there ar 3 pages of a7x iconshttp://www.iconator.com/search.php?query=avenged+sevenfold&catid=all-11
Thanks for the link....but it won't let me use the avatars. :upset:

[hyperdrummer]

yooo...k...im bassplayers bro...vincent...umm...i know i learned how to play chapter four by seriously sitting down for an hour and just playing that one part...at first i took some sticks and drummed it slowly on my lap...then i went on the set and just slowly drummed it out...just start like seriously doing quarter notes for the snare hits...then just everytime you've mastered it at that pace...go on to the next pace...i did that for a loooong time..and now i got it down...pretty much the key is practice until your fingers are totally blistered...thats about it...post if that doesnt explain it good or you need help or whatever...so yea..its a fun song to play when you get it down...

[-:Vincent:-]

ok....till I get blisters on my fingers eh? I guess I was kinda rushing it (trying to play it fast from the beginning), so I'll try slowing it down and picking up speed gradually. I really want to play that song with my band, but my guitarist might be having some trouble also. Thanks for the tips though :thumb: , I'll ask your brother if I have any problems.

[Unholy Backfire]

Hey everybody ive got a question what guitar brand is Synyster Gates using in the Bat Country video? ive seen a bunch of people using it but i have no clue what brand it is lol

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Hey everybody ive got a question what guitar brand is Synyster Gates using in the Bat Country video? ive seen a bunch of people using it but i have no clue what brand it is lol


He uses a Schecter I do believe, even though I have not seen the video. But they are both endorsed by Schecter, so that's my guess on it.

http://www.schecterguitars.com/spec.asp?id=14

http://www.schecterguitars.com/spec.asp?id=17

http://www.schecterguitars.com/spec.asp?id=37

http://www.schecterguitars.com/spec.asp?id=39

Says the Schecter site on what guitar models they play.

[cowboy_from_hell]

The other day I was watching 120 metal minutes on MTV2 and then this song came on called 'Bat Country' by Avenged Sevenfold and I was like "WOAH!!! This is the biggest pile of **** i've ever heard I mean how can this even be classed as metal?!!!!" And to all of those who say they've gone down hill they were never on a hill and never will be!!!

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Go kill yourself so you can be with your favourite little Cowboy.


*Is assuming you are a Pantera,therefore, Dimebag fanboy*

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

The other day I was watching 120 metal minutes on MTV2 and then this song came on called 'Bat Country' by Avenged Sevenfold and I was like "WOAH!!! This is the biggest pile of **** i've ever heard I mean how can this even be classed as metal?!!!!" And to all of those who say they've gone down hill they were never on a hill and never will be!!!


Says the man who likes Pantera, who were originally a hair metal band and released 4 albums of hair metal crap.

Yet he probably has never heard of this, because they shun their hair metal days.

Oh, and please jump out of a 10 story building head first, it will be cool. Make sure to get it on camera.

[loathed]

The other day I was watching 120 metal minutes on MTV2 and then this song came on called 'Bat Country' by Avenged Sevenfold and I was like "WOAH!!! This is the biggest pile of **** i've ever heard I mean how can this even be classed as metal?!!!!" And to all of those who say they've gone down hill they were never on a hill and never will be!!!

dumbest thing ive ever heard, period.

[cowboy_from_hell]

Says the man who likes Pantera, who were originally a hair metal band and released 4 albums of hair metal crap.

Yet he probably has never heard of this, because they shun their hair metal days.

Oh, and please jump out of a 10 story building head first, it will be cool. Make sure to get it on camera.

I have heard there hair metal music and yes it was **** but they improved unlike Avenged Sevenfold who actually supported Lost Prophets on they're British tour and from there have not got much better!!! R.I.P DIMEBAG

[loathed]

I have heard there hair metal music and yes it was **** but they improved unlike Avenged Sevenfold who actually supported Lost Prophets on they're British tour and from there have not got much better!!! R.I.P DIMEBAG

so what if they supported lost prophets?

[deathscreamingsheep]

I thought it was Eighteen Visions who supported Lostprophets.

Secondly, Avenged Sevenfold's new stuff can be classed as metal easily. It is also pretty good metal (although Sidewinder > Bat Country).

And secondly- holy ****! They supported a well known welsh band on a british tour!!! Well that must make them crap! /sarcasm

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I have heard there hair metal music and yes it was **** but they improved unlike Avenged Sevenfold who actually supported Lost Prophets on they're British tour and from there have not got much better!!! R.I.P DIMEBAG


Hahaha i think you probably ARE a real cowboy. :lol:

[Systemofadown]

Avenged Sevenfold is so sweet
i like there song BAt County

[Arucard]

Oh God. Sometimes i wish they didn't show the video for Bat Country on MTV :\

[i am the robots]

I have heard there hair metal music and yes it was **** but they improved unlike Avenged Sevenfold who actually supported Lost Prophets on they're British tour and from there have not got much better!!! R.I.P DIMEBAG

Uhh... shut the **** up, also, rather than saying RIP DIMEBAG in a thread dedicated to diehard fans of the man, write a song or something in memory of him, be productive you ignorant ****:

Passion in my eyes, I lived it everyday, but how could you go throw it all away?
In my dreams it's me and you, it's there I saw it all come true
As time went by faith in you grew, so one thing's left for me to do

I feel it burn inside, burning me like the rising sun
Lifted into the sky, took away the only thing I loved
I know after tonight all your power crumbles in my arms
So don't worry, I'll be fine, when my life ends, I'll leave this scar

and i felt down i need you there every note and every word seems so hard to take Finally, were destined.

A smoking gun in hand, now don't you realize what you've done
Put a bullet in his back, your hero since you were so young
How could you kill the man who brought salvation through your pain
He must mean everything to end it all this shameful way

Passion in my eyes, I lived it everyday, but how could you go throw it all away?
In my dreams it's me and you, it's there I saw it all come true
As time went by faith in you grew, so one thing's left for me to do (finish you)

I started here so young and helped you get along
Just did it for the love, and people healed through us
Don't live you life in vain, don't take it out on me
You're cracked, so just remember, I'm not your enemy
I don't deserve to fall this way, by a man who felt betrayed

I felt so down now you're around to rescue me
Every note and every word i'm listening
Sometimes problems seem too deep to take(too hard to take)
Sometimes I cry thinking my future looks so bleak

Finally, together we were destined, I know what's best for us in the end
Someone hear me, someone stop me, someone listen, why aren't you listening?

Passion in my eyes, I lived it everyday, but how could you go throw it all away?
In my dreams it's me and you, it's there I saw it all come true
As time went by faith in you grew, so one thing's left for me to do

In my dreams it's me and you, it's there I saw it all come true
As time went by faith in you grew, so one thing's left to finish you

Also, because they toured with a band you don't like, they automatically suck? Get your head out of your *** and die.

[AA-12]

The other day I was watching 120 metal minutes on MTV2 and then this song came on called 'Bat Country' by Avenged Sevenfold and I was like "WOAH!!! This is the biggest pile of **** i've ever heard I mean how can this even be classed as metal?!!!!" And to all of those who say they've gone down hill they were never on a hill and never will be!!!
Oh Christ, another idiot. Bat Country is by far a metal song.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I love it how he doesn't even know that MIA is dedicated to Dimebag.

But what ever, his ignorance is beyond stupid.

[AA-12]

I love it how he doesn't even know that *MIA is dedicated to Dimebag.

But what ever, his ignorance is beyond stupid.
*Betrayed

:p

[Arucard]

Does anyone know why they cancelled their Uk tour? I was really looking forward to it :(

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

*Betrayed

:p


/booklet is not here

I thought MIA was, oh well.

Stupid friend has my cd.

NP - Avenged Sevenfold - Strenght Of The World

western/country themed metal song is a very nifty idea.

[Crunchwrap Supreme!]

Best song on the album.

[i am the robots]

/booklet is not here

I thought MIA was, oh well.

Stupid friend has my cd.

NP - Avenged Sevenfold - Strenght Of The World

western/country themed metal song is a very nifty idea.

Both are dedicated to Dimebag :-p.

[Tillius]

Both are dedicated to Dimebag :-p.
Indeed they are.

[brensten32]

Waking the Fallen was the best album but now, they sound really different. It jsut doesn't have the heavy metal feelings anymore. Too bad the singer got his voice all messed up. But at least they ain't punkish like they were before.

[loathed]

Both albums are just good in their own ways...

[Follow The Reaper]

Waking the Fallen was the best album but now, they sound really different. It jsut doesn't have the heavy metal feelings anymore. Too bad the singer got his voice all messed up. But at least they ain't punkish like they were before.
Really, I think they are more "punkish" then before.

[i am the robots]

How the hell are they more punkish if they have less elements of punk in their music now than ever?

[brensten32]

Really, I think they are more "punkish" then before.
Dude, have you heard their first album? At first, I didn't even know it was them. They also played at vans warped tour and $hit. I am saying even thought the newest album sucks, at least it ain't "punkish" like the first album. Because i prefer anything else than punk.

[Tillius]

How are they more punk now? What the hell is your definition of punk?

[Shadius]

Three albums.

Metalcore -> Metalcore/Metal mix -> Various Metal Types

Metalcore is by definition closest to punk, that was their first album. They are pretty far from punk with their latest effort, though loosely punk influenced.