Avenged Sevenfold

[radianteclipse]

I guess the vocals somewhat sound like the edgy vocals found in some of the orignal emo bands that came about in the late 80s and early 90s, but only a slight resemblance. Shadows has one of the best metal voices I have heard. My only gripe is the high nasally thing he does every so often, that kind of ruins that part of the song for me, but other than that it is stellar. I am really liking the new stuff a lot, and I am fighting the urge to download more songs from it, but I really like what I have heard. So far my favorite track has to be "Sidewinder"

[Arucard]

Im trying really hard not to download it all too, i will have 7 tracks i havent heard when i buy the album Monday.

[shadowsengage]

i was a little dissapointed at first, but they're new songs have really grown on me. Burn it down and m.i.a. are my favorites so far, can't wait to pick it up when it's released later this week

[Arucard]

Sevenfold revealed in Kerrang! that the main reason for style change is that they hated the scene, especially Atreyu.

[obviam_everto]

After a years of browsing these forums, I have finally decided to register and post my thoughts.

most of the content in this post concern my oppinion of City of Evil and Avenged Sevenfold as a band.


first of all, to clear some things up, I know my music. So you fags that want to question my music taste, and flame me because I listen to certain things, bring it. I'll just fit you into the thousands of stereotypes that you most likely joined because you couldn't do your own thing.

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From the first minute into the album, The Beast and the Harlot delivers an epic album intro, bringing a Iron Maiden influenced introduction might I add, but going into a pulsing double-bass beat dropped by the Reverend.

I knew I was in for a good album. The first track 'The Beast and the Harlot' caught me by surprise, considering I was expecting another mediocre-talented song produced by Avenged Sevenfold, Mind you mediocre is great sometimes (Eternal Rest). Surprisingly, the guitars blew me away, very technical. Well technical considering their older stuff.

I see the vocals as getting a "haircut". Sure you have the old raggy look (heavy screaming, more edge: STST, WTF) but they've given his "do" the ol' scissors, and now hes more clean, he looks cleaner, sounds cleaner and more importantly mature. Yeah flame me for that, but I think that if you can take singing and incorporate it into heavy music and it sound good, you're talented.

Also, respect to M. Shadows for continuing with the band even after the surgery. Shows his passion, and it makes me love the band as a whole knowing that they all dropped a huge element to their music just for him.

The whole album is great, some of my favorite tracks:

Sidewinder- Can't wait for that to get tabbed, gonna play that riff all night

The Wicked End- the punk-bass intro into the metal riff is amazing. The strings in the end, the Choir. Oh the power, I can already see an amazing show.

Beast and the Harlot- The double bass intro in the song gives me chills, yes we've all heard the speed and length before, but its so powerful in this song.

there are so many good songs on the album, Seize the day has that beautiful acoustic/ballad feeling to it. (Listen to I won't see you tonight pt1 or Warmness on the Soul)

All in all, I enjoy Avenged Sevenfold so much because they can take all their influences and make an incredible sound. They also have the ability to create beautiful and brutal songs.

Overall opinion on the album:

If you're biased to change/revolution/maturing whatever you want to call it, Stick to STST or Waking the Fallen. If you like to switch it up, give the album a try.

in my opinion, it falls to Waking the Fallen, but still a great, beautiful album

\m/

[Moseswasbanned]

in my opinion, it falls to Waking the Fallen, but still a great, beautiful album

\m/
I think it kicks Waking the Fallen's hiney.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

You seem intelligent, why wait this long to post? And typically, well thought out responses such as that will not get flamed

[Blink_Fan315]

like for example the chorus to ' beast and the harlot ' , its sooo emo... i like the emotion in this song...

Emotion in a song and and accutally being emo are 2 different things, i would never use A7X and emo in the same sentence unless it was, "Avenge is deffiently not emo" lol. Emo=Genre Emotion=Referring to the lyrics themself or how they are song.

[Moseswasbanned]

like for example the chorus to ' beast and the harlot ' , its sooo emo... i like the emotion in this song...

Emotion in a song and and accutally being emo are 2 different things, i would never use A7X and emo in the same sentence unless it was, "Avenge is deffiently not emo" lol. Emo=Genre Emotion=Referring to the lyrics themself or how they are song.
Lyrics are not the emotion, music is the emotion, lyrics just help point out where the music was inspired.

[AA-12]

Lyrics are not the emotion, music is the emotion, lyrics just help point out where the music was inspired.
You can have emotional lyrics.

[Moseswasbanned]

You can have emotional lyrics.
Yes, but the music doesn't complement the lyrics, it's the other way around.

They write the music a certain way to convey an idea, the lyrics also help convey that idea but are made to fit the music. If it's the other way around I consider it poetry.

[AA-12]

Yes, but the music doesn't complement the lyrics, it's the other way around.

They write the music a certain way to convey an idea, the lyrics also help convey that idea but are made to fit the music. If it's the other way around I consider it poetry.
There are a lot of bands that write that way though, but alright.

[blacklantern]

i reckon the new songs are great, they have a hint of power metal about them and they're quite melodic... I'll be sure to pick it up.

[Arucard]

That obvium dude was sure scared of being flamed. I dont think he realised his post mimick exactly our thoughts on the album.

[obviam_everto]

its not the fear of the flame, its the fact that I was to tired last night to verbally-tear a flamer's face off.

:D glad you all agree with me though.

[Spiritofmosa]

Where do you download it from?
torrentspy

[Arucard]

torrentspy

Ive got an idea, stop being a skank and go buy the ****ing album you idiot.

[Benzum]

I could of bought the album today, but didn't want it :lol: especially for £15.99! :amaze:

[Arucard]

Good job for contributing to the thread Forest.

[Arucard]

Does anyone wanna do a song for the cover contest? Probably Unholy Confessions?

[Huber]

That'd be cool. I've never tried to play any A7X songs though. I probably wouldn't be much help.

[Arucard]

I can do the guitar/drums. But i dont want this to be a one man band :/

[Deth]

I would buy it tomorrow, but I bought a new bass.

[AA-12]

Ive got an idea, stop being a skank and go buy the ****ing album you idiot.
Meh, I downloaded the album, but i'm still going to buy it tomorrow.

[Arucard]

Its out today over here. Im going to buy it in about.... 20 minutes. If they sell it at my Supermarket.

[AA-12]

Nice. I can't wait to see all the album art and get the lyrics.

[Komatose]

I can play unholy confessions :)

my band did a cover of that.

[The pet beaver on bass]

I can do the guitar/drums. But i dont want this to be a one man band :/

I finally found this thread again, firstly, ive been resisting the urge to download it, i got a few off their own site, i figured that was ok. but i want some elemnt of surprise when i buy it. the latin portion of sidewinder completely surprised me and blew me away.

lastly I can play bass for almost all thier songs (can, i havnt tried them all, but I have done unholy confessions, chapter four and darkness surrounding).
i've never tried recording myself before but ive been dying to cover them. so if you'd like ill try and help ya out.

[The pet beaver on bass]

sry bout the double post, but just to clear up, i dont know if its been mentioned yet, but some people seem to think beast and the harlot is about las vegas? :confused: a) listen to the lyrics "fallen now is babylon the great

b)it also would make sense to be babylon since they take alot of references and influence from the scriptures. i.e. thier name, chaper 4 (meaning chapter 4 from the book of genesis when cain is banished by God for killing his brother able) that one hit me out of the blue one day, but every sentence of the song fits.

edit: bat country on the other hand....

[AA-12]

Bat Country is about Las Vegas. It's based on Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas, which is an amazing movie. Not sure about TBATH though.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

OMG, i downloaded the whole album today and its fantastic. The end of Sidewinder is so ****ing good. This is by far the best Avenged album, and i love Waking The Fallen. The only problem i have is that i have a wrong version of Bat Country and Burn it donw is a short version.

[Readaz]

Hey sorry if this has already been answered but when is City Of Evil released in the UK? HMV website says 6th June, Avenged website says 7th of june, and i read somewhere else its 13th june? Does anyone know for certain, thanks

[Arucard]

It was released yesterday, like all cd's. All cd's are released on a Monday in Britain.

[Readaz]

It was released yesterday, like all cd's. All cd's are released on a Monday in Britain.

Thanks very much

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

The Avenged Sevenfold site says the 7th because they are in America, and cds are released always on Tuesday's here...

[Arucard]

Yup, but its 6th over here. Im getting my copy when i can get into town, so basically the weekend. Got to many exams at the mo.

[Readaz]

I went to Woolworths today but they didnt have it, so i have ordered it off of the HMV website

[The pet beaver on bass]

yay im holding in in my hands, i gotta say, its a great feeling guys. tis definitely up to par, and more.

[Arucard]

Whats the artwork like?

[The pet beaver on bass]

its got a huge variety
thers one peice that almost "the used" esque, another (the centerfold) is completely different, it's very whispy and smudged. of course theres a skull theme throughout. there are others which have a different style again.

[Shattered_Future]

Today is the 7th...which equals album comes out in US. Yay!

Sucks that im broke though... :angry:

[The pet beaver on bass]

:) future shop had a 2 cds for 20$ (cdn) deal today. i got this one and the new dream theatre cd. it's been a good day.

[Arucard]

Im seeing DT with Maiden in 18 days. Life is good.

[Shattered_Future]

Im seeing DT with Maiden in 18 days. Life is good.

Lucky bastard... :angry:

That should be a sweet show...

[Arucard]

Downside is that Within Temptation are also playing... :(

[bassplayer5540]

anyone gonna go see a7x at warped tour on the aug 6 its gonna be awsome

[fongofongo]

just got the new album. its pretty cool.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Downside is that Within Temptation are also playing... :(


Within Temptation > you

I got the new album today, I ****ing love it, end of story.

My favorites must be Sidewinder due to the fact of the crazy spanish style acoust work at the end...and Strength of the World. The Violin work in that song is great as well...

The Wicked End is pretty freakin' epic as well, with all the string work and such in that song.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I seriously think that this band deserves to start getting alot more recognition from the "true" music fans, especially on this board. There is not a cent of metalcore on this album, and it is a fairly diverse peice of work. The talent from each band member is there aswell. I think its time they started getting the respect they deserve.

[Slapping Penguin]

The only A7x song I have heard is trashed and scatted and I reackon its awsome. I don't know why people call it mainsteam its power metal. ITs sounds little like other things. Its like power metal and punk and a little little metal placed in a blender and blended great stuff.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

^^
You MUST buy City Of Evil my friend. It is amazing.

[Arucard]

Within Temptation > you

I got the new album today, I ****ing love it, end of story.

My favorites must be Sidewinder due to the fact of the crazy spanish style acoust work at the end...and Strength of the World. The Violin work in that song is great as well...

The Wicked End is pretty freakin' epic as well, with all the string work and such in that song.

Nice to hear, i thought you might not like it.

Forum respect levels for a7x will probably grow now.

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Nice to hear, i thought you might not like it.

Forum respect levels for a7x will probably grow now.

I'm thinking I should buy this album.... but it won't mesh wit what I've been listening too lately, I find sometimes when I'm into one certain style at the time being, deviating from it causes me to not like other albums

[taztonik]

hey a little while back i think 88 fingers mentioned an Unholly Confessions cover. I did a cover of Trashed and Scattered. It sucks, but thats alright.

[to_Burn_The_Eye]

anyone gonna go see a7x at warped tour on the aug 6 its gonna be awsome
Might be going to see them on the 7th in orlando as I am there at the time, can't get anybody to go with me though don't really know if it would be very good fun on my own. Also my parents don't really want me to go on my own but hopefully I will be able to persuade them.

[Arucard]

hey a little while back i think 88 fingers mentioned an Unholly Confessions cover. I did a cover of Trashed and Scattered. It sucks, but thats alright.

Wanna upload it for us?

[enigmus888]

Wanna upload it for us?

^you mind uploading your unholy confessions as well?

[taztonik]

ya i will i just gotta get to other computer where its saved. Ill have it up soon.

*and ya upload yours too please*

[i am the robots]

I just got City Of Evil today, wow, that CD was a let down, but it still is really good, I especially enjoyed track number 3 "Blinded In Chains"

[taztonik]

dang... either the files too big or the site doesnt support mp3 attachments... cuz its not working.

[i am the robots]

dang... either the files too big or the site doesnt support mp3 attachments... cuz its not working.

Attacthments don't work in R&M and The Pit, mostly because with the larger forum, there are more assholes who will attatch *******, Lemon Party, Goatse, etc., and most of us do not wanna see gross **** like that.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I just got City Of Evil today, wow, that CD was a let down, but it still is really good, I especially enjoyed track number 3 "Blinded In Chains"

Care to elaborate on why it was a let down?

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Yeah, why do you think its a let down? Its way better than i thought it would be. Blows away any of their previous work.

[AA-12]

Might be going to see them on the 7th in orlando as I am there at the time, can't get anybody to go with me though don't really know if it would be very good fun on my own. Also my parents don't really want me to go on my own but hopefully I will be able to persuade them.
I'll go. :p

[ArcLite]

I listened to the new album today and have a couple things to say. Overall, I give it a 8, maybe 9 out of 10. The music and songs were very well written and very well played. I enjoyed every single one. However, the thing that pulled this album down for me was the vocals. I'm sure the fanboys will tear me up for this but I think Shadows should hang it up. His vocals lacked power and tone and all in all, he sounded worn out and lacking. I think they could be better than they already are with a new and better vocalist. My 2 cents.

[AA-12]

Not trying to take a stab, but i'm not sure if i'd listen to them with Shadows. He makes the band what it is to me.

[ArcLite]

Not trying to take a stab, but i'm not sure if i'd listen to them with Shadows. He makes the band what it is to me.

Yeah, I understand that. And don't get me wrong, I don't think his singing is "bad", it just seems to be keeping the band from it's full potential. But I'm quite sure many/most of the other fans wouldn't listen to them without Shadows either.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Maybe you just might need to give the vocals a little more time. I can understand what you are saying about them though, because thats what i felt when i heard the songs for the first few times. Just give them a bit more time to grow on you. See if you change your mind.

[nothingelsemattersATALL]

Avenged Sevenfold have basically been going downhill. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was a hardhitting metalcore album that while it had it's cheese, was really a great, solid album. Waking The Fallen took a drastic step away from metal and is obviously a weaker album in my eyes. It's still repsectable but it didn't touch STST. The new stuff is really lame in my opinion, I see no progression from WTF. I'm not even going to look for elements of STST anymore cause I realize that they are not going to go back to being a metalcore band. But even with that said, the tracks from City Of Evil are lame and definitely weaker than WTF. I'll still buy the album but at this pace, A7X will never top STST or even at this point, WTF.

the sad part is...they've been going towards metal, if you take a look at the riffs between STST and WTF, WTF takes a long step from hardcore to metal, then from WTF to COE, the riffs develop more into powermetal / traditional metal, the lyrics have evolved from Hardcorish lyrics to Metal lyrics (imo metal lyrics are more than kids crying about lost relationships OVER AND OVER), the album kicks major *** and is the best to date

[Slapping Penguin]

ITs good because I never heard A7X but one song off this new album so I don't have to pretend I pissed about them changing there genre or what ever. THey sound well phat. By the way were A7X hardcore punk, then metalcore and now power metal?

[Arucard]

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MAB3S45BWV3I0BWEORZN3JC48

My attempt at the intro riff of 'The Beast And The Harlot.' I just wanted mess around with the run he did.

[Verikansa]

ITs good because I never heard A7X but one song off this new album so I don't have to pretend I pissed about them changing there genre or what ever. THey sound well phat. By the way were A7X hardcore punk, then metalcore and now power metal?
metalcore, metal, power metal

[Verikansa]

yeah new albums vocals arent great but instrumentally ib think its one of there best lyrics are quite good too bat country and burn it down are my two favs so far

[Arucard]

Good job with that.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MAB3S45BWV3I0BWEORZN3JC48

My attempt at the intro riff of 'The Beast And The Harlot.' I just wanted mess around with the run he did.

Cool,sounds pretty good Joe. I play it a little different though :p

[Arucard]

How do you play it?

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Lol, i dont have any recording equipment, otherwise i would show you. The chords are the same and everything, its just my strumming pattern thats a little different. Not much in it really.

[taztonik]

hope this works. dont flame me for this. i know it sucks. http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0STFA12TIR8IO39LYU0V7F2V9O

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I downloaded your song, but i didn't work. I was keen to hear it too.

[clayman112388]

Well I listened to COE a little more, it's really really good, the vocals just kinda took me by surprise.

[taztonik]

http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A1N8AC4HJISC3L86EV7TQJ9EM

try that. thats the mp3 version.

[AA-12]

metalcore, metal, power metal
They aren't metalcore. :-|

yeah new albums vocals arent great but instrumentally ib think its one of there best lyrics are quite good too bat country and burn it down are my two favs so far
ok i read that but the thing is since you dont use sentences and that is making it hard to read to see it and i dont get it and those songs are good which i give you credit you need to learn to make sentences its really not hard okay

[enigmus888]

hey 88_fingers_joe, when are you going to post your cover unholy confessions?

[Arucard]

hey 88_fingers_joe, when are you going to post your cover unholy confessions?

I havent done one, i was just asking if we wanted to do one as a thread.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

They aren't metalcore. :-|


ok i read that but the thing is since you dont use sentences and that is making it hard to read to see it and i dont get it and those songs are good which i give you credit you need to learn to make sentences its really not hard okay


I think the guy saying metalcore meant thats the progression they have made over albums. They have gone from metalcore on STST then Metal on WTF and Power Metal now. They arent power metal now though. Its a mix of metal sub-genres.

Genres are gay anway.

[Accentopus]

Could someone upload the new album onto yousendit please?

[Arucard]

How about you go buy it asshole.

[taztonik]

I havent done one, i was just asking if we wanted to do one as a thread.

lets do it

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Bump/

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Does anybody from Australia own COE? Because i don't even know if it released in Aus yet..

[Arucard]

I dont know, check on your Australian ebay or something.

[kiros_music]

I think the new album is great and I thought WTF was amzing and COE can't top that. I haven't actually heard a lot of songs on STST but I heard it's great. I have COE and they aren't as heavy as they used to be but everyone knows the reason for that. I love the guitars and theres some pretty crazy solos and sweeping. They have a couple of acoustic parts in there and thats not exactly a bad thing. My favorite songs are Trashed and Scattered, Burn It Down, Betrayed, Seize The Day, Bat Country and Beast and The Harlot is pretty good.

[your stomach]

I love the guitar work on this album, great stuff all round.
The vocals are a bit eh. I mean most of the time they are pretty average, sometimes good and sometimes terrble. Strength of the world during one chorus shadow sounds so slow and out of time its horrible. And in mia at one point it sounds like he's singing while yawning!

[kiros_music]

I love the guitar work on this album, great stuff all round.
The vocals are a bit eh. I mean most of the time they are pretty average, sometimes good and sometimes terrble. Strength of the world during one chorus shadow sounds so slow and out of time its horrible. And in mia at one point it sounds like he's singing while yawning!

Haha I just listened to MIA it sounds like hes falling asleep what was shadows thinking when he did that.

[AA-12]

It's strange how a lot of people here claim that Waking The Fallen is heavier. I believe that City of Evil is much heavier than their previous releases.

[kiros_music]

It's strange how a lot of people here claim that Waking The Fallen is heavier. I believe that City of Evil is much heavier than their previous releases.

I do think Waking The Fallen is heavier. But I think it was all in the screaming. WTF is better than COE anyways

[Shattered_Future]

I do think Waking The Fallen is heavier. But I think it was all in the screaming. WTF is better than COE anyways

I think they're equally good for different reasons.

WTF: Screaming (it is pretty cool sometimes), sweet solos
COE: Better drumming, decent clean vocals, better polish on the music

[The pet beaver on bass]

I havent done one, i was just asking if we wanted to do one as a thread.
I think i have some stuff to to it if so my bass and fingers are at your command. plus Ive played that song plenty before. If no one else can i can do the vocals as well.

[cliff solos for all]

is new album out

[avenge the dead]

is new album out

it came out June 7th.

[taztonik]

hey have any of you noticed something weird on "bat country"?
First at about 2:55 then about 3:05?
Its someone going "oh" or something. Its weird.

[Moses]

hey have any of you noticed something weird on "bat country"?
First at about 2:55 then about 3:05?
Its someone going "oh" or something. Its weird.
I can kinda hear it a little but only if I listen for it.

[AA-12]

hey have any of you noticed something weird on "bat country"?
First at about 2:55 then about 3:05?
Its someone going "oh" or something. Its weird.
That's called a guitar.

[Alive]

Does any one have a Waking the Fallen zip? I lent my CD out a stupid bastard scatched it, and I haven't put it onto my mp3 player yet.

[Chaos&Anarchy]

But I stopped liking them a little bit when Syn bashed Alexi Laiho on the A7x board. When someone asked him what he thought of Children of Bodom and Alexi's guitar skills, he replied with "I smell fag breath." That earned him a demerit in my book.



Wow I just lost a ton of respect for A7x. Buncha half-baked glorified emo-metal queers if you ask me.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

You had respect for them, but call them emo-metal queers? Doesn't make sense.

[AA-12]

Wow I just lost a ton of respect for A7x. Buncha half-baked glorified emo-metal queers if you ask me.
You're a ****ing moron.

I wish people will realise that everyonee doesn't think the same way. Children of Bodom is my favorite band, right up there with A7X. Do you think I care is Gates doesn't like Laiho? Nope.

[Arucard]

Wow I just lost a ton of respect for A7x. Buncha half-baked glorified emo-metal queers if you ask me.

You suck at life.

Case in point : Your user name. Chaos and Anarchy? Sounds very scene to me brotha'.

[Carn]

He has a point tho about the glorified emo-metal queerism ;)

[Arucard]

They dont actually look that dumb anymore.

And Carn, i thought you ****ed of to your own little hole five pages back?

[Carn]

Yeah I forgot about that. Joe, have you ever seen Avenged live btw?

[Arucard]

Yah, in Manchester a few weeks back. Why do you ask?

[Carn]

Well I hoped they played better than that they did in Holland and Germany :S

[Shattrd_Reveries_Gtr_TD]

Avenged Sevenfold have basically been going downhill. Sounding The Seventh Trumpet was a hardhitting metalcore album that while it had it's cheese, was really a great, solid album. Waking The Fallen took a drastic step away from metal and is obviously a weaker album in my eyes. It's still repsectable but it didn't touch STST. The new stuff is really lame in my opinion, I see no progression from WTF. I'm not even going to look for elements of STST anymore cause I realize that they are not going to go back to being a metalcore band. But even with that said, the tracks from City Of Evil are lame and definitely weaker than WTF. I'll still buy the album but at this pace, A7X will never top STST or even at this point, WTF.


Are you kidding me? Waking the Fallen was much more "metal" than STST, STST was more punk/goth than metal. Personally, the tracks from City Of Evil are much more progressed musically, and so what if they arent even a "MetalCore" band anyway, MetalCore has become the most commercialized music in metal history (besides Nu Metal), they are taking a step away from all the cookie-cutter "Metalcore" bands out there.

[Endless Obsession]

Doesnt anyone else think that there singer should growl. It would sound a million times better.

[AA-12]

Doesnt anyone else think that there singer should growl. It would sound a million times better.
Not me, I love Shadow's vocals as they are. They are essential to the A7X sound IMO.

[AA-12]

STST was more punk/goth than metal.
Goth? STST is so far from Goth music it's not even funny.

[Itwasthatwas]

Not me, I love Shadow's vocals as they are. They are essential to the A7X sound IMO.

No, he needs to go back to Waking the Fallen era vocals. The screams were cool, but his clean vocal parts were just done that much better on WTF. I really don't like the direction their moving in... City of Evil was a really shallow effort.

[AA-12]

No, he needs to go back to Waking the Fallen era vocals. The screams were cool, but his clean vocal parts were just done that much better on WTF. I really don't like the direction their moving in... City of Evil was a really shallow effort.
He can't scream anymore. I much prefer his newer and much more talented vocals.

[Moses]

Is there a cover band for this thread?

[Itwasthatwas]

He can't scream anymore. I much prefer his newer and much more talented vocals.

No, I wouldn't say they're more talented. The vocal work on I Won't See You Tonight Pt. 1 was amazing, and the vocal melodies were actually worth listening to on Waking the Fallen. On City of Evil... its too generic.

[Moses]

I like everything on City of Evil better than the other albums.

[Itwasthatwas]

It was a decent effort, in terms of more technical guitarwork. The Reverend doesn't get to really show his skills off on this record though, and everything sounds like I've heard it before somewhere (except maybe the intro to the Beast of the Harlot), even though The Wicked End is a good song IMO. Its too generic for my liking. Sure, the songs are long, but a lot of it is filler, instead of the intelligent progression we saw on Waking the Fallen. Also, that appeared to be more of a concept album, which appealed to me.

[Moses]

I think City of Evil was a concept album.....

I think Waking the Fallen isn't as mature, and City of Evil was somehow more original to me, unlike how you think it was generic.

[AA-12]

No, I wouldn't say they're more talented. The vocal work on I Won't See You Tonight Pt. 1 was amazing, and the vocal melodies were actually worth listening to on Waking the Fallen. On City of Evil... its too generic.
Well you are wrong. On this album, everything is more technical and talented. Vocals, drums, bass, guitar, etc. Also, COE is extremely far from being generic. Every song sounds different and unique.

[Arucard]

Exaclty. And people that say we are posers, most of us are Black/Death metal fans anyway. We just like all types of music, and this is a very good example of one.

[Shattered_Future]

Elitists suck.

Period.

[AA-12]

Yeah. On my current playlist I have:

Miles Davis
Children of Bodom
Avenged Sevenfold
Darkthrone
Al Di Meola
Dillinger Escape Plan

A bit diverse eh?, Haha.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

People dont think I'm diverse, but I really am. I listen to everything from Paganini to Children of Bodom, to Evanescence, to Coheed and Cambria, to Bethoveen, to Dark Tranquillity to Nightwish. Yep. I also like music thats ethnic like Iranian and Brazilian, though I can't dance to save my life.

........now I think I've said enough.

[Shattered_Future]

I like a lot of music, regardless of genre.
I also hate a lot of music, regardless of genre.

Basically, if it sounds good, i listen to it. Doesn't matter if its "tr00 kvlt" metal or jazz. Good music = good music.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Exactly.

[Arucard]

On my playlist at the minute :

Arcturus
Borknagar
'Sevenfold
Dark Throne
Immortal
Isengard
Arsis
Tamaki Nami
The Ordinary Boys.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

noice. I've recently gotten into Arsis. In the words of Cartman, "kiiiiiiiiick aaaaaaaaaaass"

[AA-12]

Nice, I just got Borknager - Epic. It was my first time hearing them, it's great. Do you have any Arcturus with Vortex?

A7X Related part of the post: What's everyones favorite solo off COE? Mine's Sieze The Day.

[Carn]

ah well.. posting your "metal" playlist makes you a cool metal dude.. ;)

But Shattered is right, good music is good music. Its just that Avenged's vocals are terribly bad, bordering on hilarious.. (in my opinion, and the two times I saw them proved my point) and that the band itself isnt tight at all live (yes, Im someone who cares alot about the live-part of a band). The compositions itself on City of Evil are more complex than in previous efforts, but the slick producing makes the band sound more capable than that they are in a live context. Sounding of the Seventh Trumpet is still their best record in my opinion.

[Arucard]

noice. I've recently gotten into Arsis. In the words of Cartman, "kiiiiiiiiick aaaaaaaaaaass"

Hell yes brother, best Melodic Death ever. Period.

TASAI : I still havent bought the album, i havent been into town because of exams :/

So far, its Burn it Down. Listen to those sweeps.

And no, i dont have an Vortex Arcturus, i dont think they have recorded with him yet. I am seeing him with them in October though :cool:

[Arucard]

ah well.. posting your "metal" playlist makes you a cool metal dude.. ;)

But Shattered is right, good music is good music. Its just that Avenged's vocals are terribly bad, bordering on hilarious.. (in my opinion, and the two times I saw them proved my point) and that the band itself isnt tight at all live (yes, Im someone who cares alot about the live-part of a band). The compositions itself on City of Evil are more complex than in previous efforts, but the slick producing makes the band sound more capable than that they are in a live context. Sound of the Seventh Trumpet is still their best record in my opinion.

All we were doing was posting the music we listened to. Im sorry for offending you, master.

[Carn]

Good, young Padawan. Now try to learn to wipe your british pimpled arse with the force ;)

[Arucard]

How the hell did you know i was British. And why does that matter? And why isnt my list 'metal?'

[Carn]

haha..****. bite bite bite.

- I know alot
- It doesnt matter at all, duh!
- Im not saying its "not" metal..its just metal!

Its seems I've run into MX's R&M poster metalboy...I bet you are a cool dude but you can be a bit of an arse sometimes.

Anyway, Arcturus should be good, Im catching them on the same tour over here, one of the more promising things in late 2005.

[Arucard]

Well, i can't say the same too you. I havent read a post by you that was not idiotic and nearly totally unfounded. And im not the (i assume you meant poser) 'poser' metalboy, im just relativly new to the genre as a whole, i actually mainly listen to punk.

The only metal genre i know about is Melodic Death Metal.

[Carn]

I didnt mean poser..I meant poster ;)

Anyway, Its just that I dont get the hype about Avenged because in my eyes they are a very average band. I dont want to make Avenged fans look like idiots..(well maybe I want to) but 70% of the people I saw at the A7X gig looked very familiar to the ones that were present during Good Charlotte. Im have nothing against catchy "metal" but City of Evil is really on the edge of "corny", if not over it.

[Arucard]

I like corny... Hence my addiction to Borknagar... And most Power Metal.

[AA-12]

Hell yes brother, best Melodic Death ever. Period.

TASAI : I still havent bought the album, i havent been into town because of exams :/

So far, its Burn it Down. Listen to those sweeps.

And no, i dont have an Vortex Arcturus, i dont think they have recorded with him yet. I am seeing him with them in October though :cool:
This thread has good taste. Arsis is infact the best MDM :thumb:

I could host the album for you if you'd like.

I think they recorded one album with him, not sure though.

[AA-12]

I didnt mean poser..I meant poster ;)

Anyway, Its just that I dont get the hype about Avenged because in my eyes they are a very average band. I dont want to make Avenged fans look like idiots..(well maybe I want to) but 70% of the people I saw at the A7X gig looked very familiar to the ones that were present during Good Charlotte. Im have nothing against catchy "metal" but City of Evil is really on the edge of "corny", if not over it.
Well, it's Power Metal. They aimed for a cheesy like sound.

[Carn]

I like corny... Hence my addiction to Borknagar... And most Power Metal.

:) Checked out Wintersun yet? I believe they are working on a new album. A bit "bodom on steroids" but its pretty cool.

[Arucard]

Yes, i know Wintersun, they do actually rule. The vocals are to die for.

That sounded wierd...

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Nice, I just got Borknager - Epic. It was my first time hearing them, it's great. Do you have any Arcturus with Vortex?

A7X Related part of the post: What's everyones favorite solo off COE? Mine's Sieze The Day.

Mine would probably be the solo at the end of Sidewinder. It makes me wanna dance :lol:

[Shattered_Future]

I didnt mean poser..I meant poster ;)

Anyway, Its just that I dont get the hype about Avenged because in my eyes they are a very average band. I dont want to make Avenged fans look like idiots..(well maybe I want to) but 70% of the people I saw at the A7X gig looked very familiar to the ones that were present during Good Charlotte. Im have nothing against catchy "metal" but City of Evil is really on the edge of "corny", if not over it.

The vocals on that album are pretty horrid...
However, i think the music saves it. The music is so much tighter than on their other albums (recorded, at least).

However, i think they are still trying to appeal to that pop-punk girl audience...i mean, they're still on the Warped Tour, and don't sound like punk AT ALL. That is their biggest flaw.

[i am the robots]

Well, it's Power Metal. They aimed for a cheesy like sound.

IT IS NOT POWER METAL, IT IS JUST GENERAL HEAVY METAL, IF A BAND HAS HARMONIES AND SYMPHONICS, IT DOES NOT MAKE IT POWER METAL, THE CD HAS HARDCORE BREAKDOWNS FOR **** SAKE, IT IS NOT A SPECIFIC STYLE, AND IT IS MOST LOOSLY RELATED TO POWER METAL

[Shattered_Future]

Still, you can't deny the power metal influences...its not straight up power metal, but it still has the influences.

[i am the robots]

IT IS NOT AT ALL POWER METAL, END OF ****ING STORY, COMPARE IT TO DREAM EVIL, NOW!

[Ibanex0110]

no, actually it is slightly power metal, i dont why you won't admit that. It's not like it matters anyway, categorizing bands is kinda dumb anyway.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

The vocals on that album are pretty horrid...
However, i think the music saves it. The music is so much tighter than on their other albums (recorded, at least).

However, i think they are still trying to appeal to that pop-punk girl audience...i mean, they're still on the Warped Tour, and don't sound like punk AT ALL. That is their biggest flaw.

Well writing 5-6 minute long songs doesnt really appeal to pop-punk auidiences. Not to mention guitar solos in most of the songs, and the use of strings and a boys choir in another. They had reasons for going on warped. Ozzfest offered them second stage and less time than Warped, so why not go with the more stage time and headline??

[i am the robots]

No. I'll tell you what is dumb. Little kids who probably have yet to hear the greatness of bands like Symphony X and Dragonforce, and go ahead and catagorize bands like A7X and Kalmah as Power Metal.

[i am the robots]

Well writing 5-6 minute long songs doesnt really appeal to pop-punk auidiences. Not to mention guitar solos in most of the songs, and the use of strings and a boys choir in another. They had reasons for going on warped. Ozzfest offered them second stage and less time than Warped, so why not go with the more stage time and headline??

Because then some 12 year old who thinks they know music might call you a sell out :rolleyes: .

[Ibanex0110]

you halfta understand, were not saying "avenged sevenfold is power metal, all power metal, and nothing else" we are just saying they have power metal influence, which they do. they also have punk influences, thrash metal influences, and many others. don't take so much offense when some random guy on the internet says that a band is a certain genre, my or anyone else's opinion shouldn't matter to you anyway

[AA-12]

GG on ****ing up the last page.

Anyway, Avenged Sevenfold does in fact have a lot of power metal influence.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Change of topic, because that power metal thing is going nowhere...

Is there a chance Avenged Sevenfold will come to Australia for a tour?

[Rise Me Up]

Aren't they on Warped Tour this year?

[Huber]

Aren't they on Warped Tour this year?

Yep.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Aren't they on Warped Tour this year?

Doesn't mean they can't come to Australia next year.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

My best friend went to see them when we were both REALLY into them at Warped last year. She said they were awesome. *shrugs*

[Arucard]

No. I'll tell you what is dumb. Little kids who probably have yet to hear the greatness of bands like Symphony X and Dragonforce, and go ahead and catagorize bands like A7X and Kalmah as Power Metal.

Eleventeen, no one is categorising them as straight Power. You of all people should know i love PM, and DragonForce and Symphony X are both very good, skilled bands, but we are saying it has obvious PM influences man.

Listen to the lyrics, solo's and guitari and drum work.

Im not a little kid, so stop making stupid allegations.

[Shattered_Future]

No. I'll tell you what is dumb. Little kids who probably have yet to hear the greatness of bands like Symphony X and Dragonforce, and go ahead and catagorize bands like A7X and Kalmah as Power Metal.

Have heard of both of those bands, and love them both to death...in a good way.

Yes, Avenged Sevenfold is not straight up power metal. Yes, they aren't really power metal. However, you have to be an idiot not to see the influences of power metal on them...especially the drums.

I say people should just call them metal. It works, and it doesn't cause genre-elitism arguments.

[Arucard]

As a point, how can you be such an elitist Eleventeen? You listen to some of the most conterversial bands in the metal scene.

[AA-12]

Got my old account back. :cool:

Anyway, what is your opinion of Zacky's work? I'm not all that impressed, but I guess he gets the job done.

[Arucard]

I really like him, but his technique isnt very good. His picking style is very hard, and he rarely uses alternate picking in riffs.

But yeh, does the job.

[AA-12]

Yeah. I do like his duel spanish solo with Gates at the end of Sidewinder.

[Spiritofmosa]

he rarely uses alt picking??

[Arucard]

Yes, if you watch the video's he usually down picks as much as he can, and only doesnt for alt picked palm muted break downs.

[i am the robots]

As a point, how can you be such an elitist Eleventeen? You listen to some of the most conterversial bands in the metal scene.

And so that means I can't know what I'm talking about? If I were to just randomly start dropping "Limp Bizkit is Death Metal," it would be just as ridiculous, harmonies and complex guitar playing to not make a band powermetal, A7X is just generally metal, just leave it at that.

[AA-12]

And so that means I can't know what I'm talking about? If I were to just randomly start dropping "Limp Bizkit is Death Metal," it would be just as ridiculous, harmonies and complex guitar playing to not make a band powermetal, A7X is just generally metal, just leave it at that.
They are extremely influenced by power metal though. It's their largest influence.

[slaughteredfirst]

Yea eleventeen no one is saying they arnt metal but they do have a massive power metal influence.

[i am the robots]

I'm not saying that, I'm saying that people were saying they are Power Metal, and it's not true, I'm not argueing whether not they're Power influenced, the fact is that they aren't power metal. It's like saying Korn is Death Metal, but in fact they are only influenced by Death Metal (vocally).

[Chaos&Anarchy]

Lets face it. the only reason A7x got a record deal with Warner was cause they have that trendy look. You know what I'm talking about. This millenium's answer to the gay boy band look.

Im not going to be stupid and say that they suck as musicians. Cause the guitarists and drummer are pretty good. but really there's better guitarists of this generation out there (like Alexi Laiho and Jon Donias)...

[AA-12]

Lets face it. the only reason A7x got a record deal with Warner was cause they have that trendy look. You know what I'm talking about. This millenium's answer to the gay boy band look.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I guess that's why they don't have that look anymore.


Im not going to be stupid and say that they suck as musicians. Cause the guitarists and drummer are pretty good. but really there's better guitarists of this generation out there (like Alexi Laiho and Jon Donias)...
There are guitarists that are 1095610381900 times better than Laiho, Donias, Gates. That doesn't matter though. The guys in Avenged Sevenfold aren't trying to show off.

[i am the robots]

No, A7X's guitarists are good, but they aren't that good. And to say Laiho is the same generation as A7x... for shame.

[slaughteredfirst]

I'm not saying that, I'm saying that people were saying they are Power Metal, and it's not true, I'm not argueing whether not they're Power influenced, the fact is that they aren't power metal. It's like saying Korn is Death Metal, but in fact they are only influenced by Death Metal (vocally).

Yea I know.


You argued well.

[AA-12]

No, A7X's guitarists are good, but they aren't that good. And to say Laiho is the same generation as A7x... for shame.
?

He is in the same generation of guitarists as them.

[slaughteredfirst]

?

He is in the same generation of guitarists as them.


He is talking talent wise not age.

[i am the robots]

?

He is in the same generation of guitarists as them.

A7X's first CD came out in 2001, COB's came out in 1997. They are not the same generation.

[i am the robots]

He is talking talent wise not age.

I'm talking age as well, Laiho is not the same time period in Metal.

[AA-12]

A7X's first CD came out in 2001, COB's came out in 1997. They are not the same generation.
They were both making much before that, but I see what you mean. They are infact though making music right now at the same time.

[slaughteredfirst]

I'm talking age as well, Laiho is not the same time period in Metal.


Age didnt seem to be the deciding factor in this discussion of talent though.

Oh well.


Laiho is a lot better than the Avenge sevenfold guitarests. Imo.

[i am the robots]

They were both making much before that, but I see what you mean. They are infact though making music right now at the same time.

Laiho is like 28, Zacky and Synyster are like 21. They are different ages.

[i am the robots]

Age didnt seem to be the deciding factor in this discussion of talent though.

Oh well.


Laiho is a lot better than the Avenge sevenfold guitarests. Imo.

I wouldn't say a lot better, but he definately lets his talent shine a lot more, I still love Zacky and Synester's playing though, they're really good as well, but different stylisticly.

[AA-12]

Laiho is like 28, Zacky and Synyster are like 21. They are different ages.
Still though, they are playing in the same generation.

[AA-12]

I wouldn't say a lot better, but he definately lets his talent shine a lot more, I still love Zacky and Synester's playing though, they're really good as well, but different stylisticly.
Yeah, i'd go with Laiho though, because he knows a ton about music theory.

[i am the robots]

Yeah, i'd go with Laiho though, because he knows a ton about music theory.

Yeah, he's a musical genius, but the guys in A7X right some really good stuff too... just listen to Desecrate Through Reverance.

[AA-12]

Yeah, he's a musical genius, but the guys in A7X right some really good stuff too... just listen to Desecrate Through Reverance.
They claim to not know a ton about theory though. That is a good song though.

[i am the robots]

They claim to not know a ton about theory though. That is a good song though.

Even if they don't know a ton of theory, so what? They obviously paly a ton and know how to write some good ****.

[AA-12]

Even if they don't know a ton of theory, so what? They obviously paly a ton and know how to write some good ****.
Exactly. I am into really technical guitarists though, haha.

[Arucard]

Laiho is like 28, Zacky and Synyster are like 21. They are different ages.

They are actually 23, and why is this argument happening? Who cares if Laiho is good? CoB is full of virtuoso's, but as with many bands like that, it sometimes gets boring.

[Arucard]

And so that means I can't know what I'm talking about? If I were to just randomly start dropping "Limp Bizkit is Death Metal," it would be just as ridiculous, harmonies and complex guitar playing to not make a band powermetal, A7X is just generally metal, just leave it at that.

I just said that they were only PM influenced. If 'The Beast And The Harlot' doesn't sound like relativly synth-less PM, then i will shoot myself.

And that Limp Bizkit comment was uneeded, no-one is making claims that ridiculous, saying that Sevenfold are clearly PM influenced is a founded argument.

[axeslinga_32]

i'de hate to be that kid that yells sell-out, but like a7x signs to warner and now their music is super poppy and there is no screaming? coincedence? i
think not. i do not like the new stuff.

[Arucard]

Super poppy? Are you an idiot? Have you even heard the music? Since when were 6 minute epics 'poppy?'

They have actually lost alot of fans with the new direction, and gained real metal fans.

[Spiritofmosa]

i love this cd,, i prefer singing to screaming though,, but thing that makes them metalcore is the screaming and growling.. the guitars stay the same only more kickass solos. 88 fingers joe you like aaF?

[Arucard]

Yes i do, many people judge them by 'Smooth Criminal' and 'Movies' because they are ignorant cunts.

[Spiritofmosa]

yea i used to like them alot, avenged sevenfold new or old better?

[Arucard]

New, obviously. To be honest, WTF got boring for me. I loved it for about a month, but now i can't listen to anything from it. STST is very good, but not exaclty my thing, COE is perfect for me. Blend of Metal, talent, and cheese.

[IbanezSA]

COE is very awesome its basicly the only thing thats been in my mp3 player (i did buy the cd) besides the new as i lay dying

[!^Amerika^!]

I Love the avenged first got into them by "Unholy confessions" genius song!!

[blacklantern]

Avenged sevenfold are great!!! i reckon trashed and scattered is such a great song, much more melodic than their old stuff which i dont see as a bad thing but i guess we'll just have to wait until the record comes out. I was in the record shop recently and i was talking to a guy about City of Evil... he said he already had a copy and said that it takes a couple of listenes to really get into..... Comes out next week over here.... cant wait to get a copy!!!

[Arucard]

I Love the avenged first got into them by "Unholy confessions" genius song!!

:rolleyes:

[the 9th cirlce]

The album is alright. It's got alot of different elements to it which it good. It's just something new they decided to do. I will admit though, the track Burn It Down sucks. It opens really heavy then turns into this sonic the hedgehog riff.

[\m/Pete\m/]

The only song Ive heard is Burn it Down...it'd be better if he didnt use the whiney pop/punk/emo cries as much as he does

[AA-12]

Joe, aren't you happy that me and you are so open minded, haha.

Anyway, about the albums, I still love WTF, but it gets a bit old. STST I never liked all that much.

[Arucard]

The album is alright. It's got alot of different elements to it which it good. It's just something new they decided to do. I will admit though, the track Burn It Down sucks. It opens really heavy then turns into this sonic the hedgehog riff.

Its called Power Metal dick face.

[i am the robots]

i'de hate to be that kid that yells sell-out, but like a7x signs to warner and now their music is super poppy and there is no screaming? coincedence? i
think not. i do not like the new stuff.

Ummm dude, you do realize that Warner is actually a decent lable..... also, did you note the fact that Shadows ****ed up his lungs/throat.... maybe that's why there is no screaming..... and did you notice that selling out would mean they did something trendy, and I don't really think melodic riffing is the in thing right now.... you know, it might just be me, but rhythm packed reppatition has seemed to be the way of popular metal for only around... oh say, the past 11 years....

[i am the robots]

Its called Power Metal dick face.

It's called "Heavy Metal," there is Power Metal influence, yes, but there are still the Thrash, Hardocre, and Prog influences as well...

[Arucard]

I mean the riff in Burn It Down, i think that DragonForce could have written that.

[i am the robots]

I mean the riff in Burn It Down, i think that DragonForce could have written that.

It is a bit power metalish of a riff, I must agree :p.

[Carn]

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]..... also, did you note the fact that Shadows ****ed up his lungs/throat.... maybe that's why there is no screaming..... /QUOTE]

well if he had decent vocal technique to begin with there wouldnt be a problem ;)

[Arucard]

Carn, get the hell out of this thread.

[i am the robots]

well if he had decent vocal technique to begin with there wouldnt be a problem ;)

Actually if he hadn't smoked cigarettes, he would've been fine...

[Carn]

thats stupid, alot of technically great singers smoke and do crack and whatever, they can still sing :)

[Arucard]

Jesus Carn, your worse than me.

[i am the robots]

thats stupid, alot of technically great singers smoke and do crack and whatever, they can still sing :)

Yes, but those singers don't scream for around an hour everyday for like 2 years straight....

[Carn]

some guys do and dont have any problems..stupid example but Howard Jones from Killswitch / Blood has been Shed is someone who actually does have decent vocal technique. I dont like his voice at all but technically he is a pretty **** good singer.

[Arucard]

I bet you would say that Miles Kennedy can't sing.

:rolleyes:

[i am the robots]

some guys do and dont have any problems..stupid example but Howard Jones from Killswitch / Blood has been Shed is someone who actually does have decent vocal technique. I dont like his voice at all but technically he is a pretty **** good singer.

Fair enough.

[Carn]

I bet you would say that Miles Kennedy can't sing.

:rolleyes:


I bet you want him to wipe your arse :rolleyes:

[Arucard]

Actually, i would be honoured by that.

Do you even know who he is?

[AA-12]

The funny thing is, Shadows is actually a skilled vocalist.

[Carn]

Mike Patton is a skilled vocalist :P

[i am the robots]

The funny thing is, Shadows is actually a skilled vocalist.

Not really, he has tons of potential, but he doesn't control his voice nearly as well as he could.

[AA-12]

Not really, he has tons of potential, but he doesn't control his voice nearly as well as he could.
He had to re learn all his technique, which is really hard. Also, I think he is an amazing singer and controls his voice really well.

[Carn]

I suggest you should listen to some more male singers beside "Mr Shadows"..a drunk Phil Anselmo sounds better than that dude.

[AA-12]

I suggest you should listen to some more male singers beside "Mr Shadows"..a drunk Phil Anselmo sounds better than that dude.
:rolleyes: I probably listen to all the "good" singers that you do. List some "talented" singers that I should listen to.

[SC423]

imo shadows had an alright voice in sounding the seventh trumpet and his scream greatly improved for waking the fallen and even with his vocal problem and his inability to scream, he retaught himself to sing and he sounds pretty **** good now

[i am the robots]

I suggest you should listen to some more male singers beside "Mr Shadows"..a drunk Phil Anselmo sounds better than that dude.

Phil never sounds good, period.

[AA-12]

Phil never sounds good, period.
Meh, maybe to you. I like him quite a bit.

[Carn]

:rolleyes: I probably listen to all the "good" singers that you do. List some "talented" singers that I should listen to.

-sighs-

Mike Patton - Anything
Greg Puciato - The Dillinger Escape Plan
Warrel Dane - Nevermore
Bruce Dickinson - Maiden ;)

and Phil does kick ***.

[AA-12]

-sighs-

Mike Patton - Anything
Greg Puciato - The Dillinger Escape Plan
Warrel Dane - Nevermore
Bruce Dickinson - Maiden ;)

and Phil does kick ***.
I like all of them but Mike Patton.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I personally like Shadow's vocals on this album...

Also the top three metal vocalists :

Garm
ICS Vortex
Vintersorg

/end of story

[Carn]

Eddie Vedder, Aaron Lewis, Keith Caputo, blabla.

[Carn]

I like all of them but Mike Patton.


Well Patton has a lof of "odd" stuff out there but I dont think anyone can match his capabilities as a singer. Especially the odd stuff :D

[Arucard]

I personally like Shadow's vocals on this album...

Also the top three metal vocalists :

Garm
ICS Vortex
Vintersorg

/end of story

**** you Bobo, you got in there before me!

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Well Patton has a lof of "odd" stuff out there but I dont think anyone can match his capabilities as a singer. Especially the odd stuff :D

I don't think you ever heard of Garm before...or Vortex...

[i am the robots]

oh yeah, well here's my list.

Mikael Akerfeldt
Anders Friden
Jon Davis

You have just been Al Capwned

[Arucard]

Worst, and least controlled singer ever = the guy from As I Lay Dying. He doesnt know how to control his voice atall. Ever.

[i am the robots]

Worst, and least controlled singer ever = the guy from As I Lay Dying. He doesnt know how to control his voice atall. Ever.

yeah, roofl.

[Carn]

oh yeah, well here's my list.

Mikael Akerfeldt
Anders Friden
Jon Davis

You have just been Al Capwned

the only one I would call a good vocalist on that list is Akerfeldt..Friden and Davis are ok but I have heard them put on some bad live stuff.

Garm and Vortex are both very good altough Patton's solo stuff is just so "out there" that I still have to find the equivalent of that D:

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Mikael Akerfeldt is probably overall my favorite vocalist.

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the only one I would call a good vocalist on that list is Akerfeldt..Friden and Davis are ok but I have heard them put on some bad live stuff.

Garm and Vortex are both very good altough Patton's solo stuff is just so "out there" that I still have to find the equivalent of that D:

Odd, in my opinion Davis sounded amazing live, especially when he sang in the deaper voice during When Will This End and Blind. And Friden is absolutely fantastic live IMO.

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hmm dunno, never heard Davis do anything that wasnt sound like "a typical davis thing". In my opinion he is way to rooted in his own style, but thats just me :) About Friden, dunno, I saw a good and bad show of him and In Flames. I do like his voice tho, one of the few guys who are actually trying to sound different. Soilworks Bjorn Strid is someone who is not trying to do anything new..altough I do have to say that Stabbing the Drama is his best "vocal effort" yet.

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My friend was playing some Sonata Artica on guitar yesterday and I noticed how similar the riffs were to newer A7X. SA is the first power metal band I've ever heard but like I said I definitely heard A7X in there. Especially this chord:

D|-5-
A|-1-
E|---

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Odd, in my opinion Davis sounded amazing live, especially when he sang in the deaper voice during When Will This End and Blind. And Friden is absolutely fantastic live IMO.

I have a video of Anders and the band playing Embody The Invisible (i hope Anders is the singer for In Flames...if not, ignore this), and he really botched it. He couldn't sustain his growls like he could on the album.

Of course, that could've been their old singer as well...im not too sure.

Good metal vocalists...nobody has said Tarja Turunen from Nightwish? She's not a metal vocalist in the traditional sense, but she has one hell of a voice...

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