Avenged Sevenfold

[DKMode]

so weird story. i had a dream last night that i was in a music store, and i found an avenged sevenfold DVD in one of the racks that i had no idea had been released. i woke up this morning (or this afternoon), and lo and behold on their myspace page it says they are releasing a DVD in the spring. i thought that was kinda ****ed up. anyways im pretty stoked for it. you think it will be a live DVD or like an in studio thing?

[CityOfEvil]

I dont know if it will be a live or in studio, but its sure I'll buy it.

I think a live DVD would be very nice.

[DKMode]

i somehow doubt it will be live though cuz the myspace page says they have just finished filming in huntington beach, and to the best of my knowledge they arent playing any shows right now. even if it is just an in studio thing it will be awesome cuz the guys are really entertaining. im pumped for it.

[CityOfEvil]

Well, live or not youre right it will be awsome. Cant wait to spring.

Do you know exactly when or it only say in spring?

[randomthought9]

Yeah, that should be pretty cool. I've never liked live CD/DVD's, but I'd watch it.

[AA-12]

Uhmm... they're definately not original, but they're quite unique... they do something similar to what other bands have done, but they keep their own sound often enough.... though at certain points I've nearly blatant ripping off of Metallica, Norma Jean, and Guns N Roses.

I'd say my favorite A7X song would be We Come Out At Night.

City of Evil is Velveeta metal, it's so ****ing cheesey, and it's so over produced.

Every band has a band they wanted to be/have been influenced by.

[DKMode]

Well, live or not youre right it will be awsome. Cant wait to spring.

Do you know exactly when or it only say in spring?

as of right now it only says spring, but hopefully there will be more info soon

[CityOfEvil]

Okay thanks. When you have more info tell us ;)

[CityOfEvil]

Just to continue this thread.

So, which songs do you play on guitar of A7X?

[AA-12]

Any of them and all, haha. I love playing their stuff. Unholy Confessions is the most fun throughout the whole thing though.

[CityOfEvil]

I like it too.

Wont see you tonight and M.I.A are nice to play too.

[DKMode]

by far the funnest song to play on drums is IWSYT2. its got alot of cool double bass stuff in it. second heartbeat is also awesome, and so are burn it down and beast and the harlot

[loathed]

"Avenged Sevenfold, also known as A7X or Sevenfold, is an emo band formed in Huntington Beach, California. The band formed in 1999."

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A7x

...wtf? okay, but honestly, i was just pointing out...not trying to start a genre war.

[CityOfEvil]

by far the funnest song to play on drums is IWSYT2. its got alot of cool double bass stuff in it. second heartbeat is also awesome, and so are burn it down and beast and the harlot

I tried one time to play Beast and the Harlot. Guitar for me.. dont know why I stop trying it. lol

[DKMode]

"Avenged Sevenfold, also known as A7X or Sevenfold, is an emo band formed in Huntington Beach, California. The band formed in 1999."

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A7x

...wtf? okay, but honestly, i was just pointing out...not trying to start a genre war.

except it doesnt say that, it says they are a rock band who commonly wear clothes associated with emo or fashioncore (whatever the **** that is).

and to the guy above me, keep trying to learn beast and the harlot cuz i learned the rhythm part on guitar and even that is ridiculously fun to play. i dont know how good you are but youll probably have problems with the solo though considering even syn says he still cant play it properly sometimes.

and on another side note, apparently the dvd is chronicling their history as a band. it says so on wikipedia.

[CityOfEvil]

Ok Im gonna retry to learn it. If Syn has difficulties to do it, im never gonna do it :lol:

Oh, thats not what I was looking for the DVD. But im gonna buy it nevertheless.

[Happy]

late but i like to play pretty much any a7x song on guitar. ive done bat country, mia and second heartbeat live with my band.

[randomthought9]

Well, it's pretty much the only A7X song I can play really, but chapter four is fun to play.

[CityOfEvil]

I play chapter four too. I have a lot of difiiculty with the solo.

M.I.A is one of the best song they play but the lead guitar is hard, the solo part.

[Happy]

i mainly improvise it.

[CityOfEvil]

I play it with guitar pro.

Man that is so hard. I cant go as fast as he goes. Syn is very talented.

i mainly improvise it

Do you play it perfectly or you do it your way?

[Happy]

i do the first solo my own way and stick to what they play for the harmonised and second solo.

[CityOfEvil]

Okay. I tried many times to do it but I cant. I do like play slow parts and the skip fast.
My problem is more the picking.

[Happy]

youve only been playing a year right?
ive been playing over 2 years and cant play it exactly like him so dont worry man.

[CityOfEvil]

Thats right. I think not a year yet. I dont know exactly when I started to.
It will take me more than 2 years to play some Syn's solo perfectly.

[SimonCore]

Any news on A7X's new album?? I heard that them recording it was their excuse for cancelling their November tour in the uk.

[CityOfEvil]

Why do they cancel a tour?
I think they really recording an album and I dont think its an excuse. If it is thats suck!

[SimonCore]

Well it's not like they haven't cancelled tours in the UK before cough* 3 times!!

[Happy]

Any news on A7X's new album?? I heard that them recording it was their excuse for cancelling their November tour in the uk.

last i heard was about that song with good charlotte.

[AA-12]

They canceled the tour to work on the new album.

[SimonCore]

last i heard was about that song with good charlotte.

What what whaaaat?

[CityOfEvil]

last i heard was about that song with good charlotte.

Well I think it would make a good song. I dont very like Good Charlotte but some tracks are good.

[Britton]

They canceled tour to record?


And what the hell is this GC talk?

[CityOfEvil]

Yes I dont understand why they cancel a tour for recording a new CD. Thats really sucks.

[DKMode]

well it makes sense. they said they werent as excited about playing the same stuff every night, so they wanted to write some new songs so the fans would get a better show. i think they were gonna start writing and preproduction in december and its supposed to be out in october, but i cant remember where i heard that.

[CityOfEvil]

Yeah but its always nice to see a show live. Its a good reason for them but not for the fans I think.

[DKMode]

ya but id rather have a show cancelled and see them a couple months later with a bunch of new material than hear the same songs over and over again. its not like theyre never touring again.

[i am the robots]

They canceled the tour to work on the new album.

I hope this one is actually good.

[Concubine]

didnt they work with Good Charlotte or something for the new album

[CityOfEvil]

ya but id rather have a show cancelled and see them a couple months later with a bunch of new material than hear the same songs over and over again. its not like theyre never touring again.

Yeah its true. Its not funny for UK guys who was planning to go there.

[i am the robots]

didnt they work with Good Charlotte or something for the new album

No, Shadows and Gates worked with Good Charlotte for a song on their new album, not an A7X album.

[CityOfEvil]

I think the song will be good. GC are not so bad.

[DKMode]

yes they are. they are junk.

[DKMode]

k so i just listened to "the river" (GC song with shadows and syn), and it was ***. anyways, thats not my point. shadows voice sounds really cool in it, way more like the vox on WTF than CoE. im not gonna lie it got me pretty excited for their new CD. its a shame they had to collaborate with a band as poo as GC though.

[randomthought9]

Haha, I don't really like Good Charlotte, but I'm gonna listen to that song just cuz some guys from A7X are in it.

[i am the robots]

Somebody link me up to where I can hear this? If Matt's voice is anywhere near what it used to be... :D

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

http://www.myspace.com/goodcharlotte

Wtf, Matt sings one ****ing verse and that's it. What a load of ****,

[i am the robots]

I'm scared.

Wow, this is a lot better than their popular stuff... I still hate their singer's voice, but this is a vast improvement from pop-punk to generic alternative.

and damn, Matt's voice is way too thrashed now days to be any good... that rasp makes me sad.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I like that rasp tbh. I though his verse was very cool and suprisingly, the chorus was pretty catchy too. Solo was crap though.

[i am the robots]

That rasp just sounds like shredded vocal cords to me.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

They didn't do much in that song, I was expecting more...

Also that rasp more like sounds like a struggle to get the vocals out, and not an intended rasp.

[i am the robots]

That's what I was saying.

I miss I Won't See You Tonight, pt. I style clean vocals.

[Crickets Hail The Goat]

ha... wow this song is catchy... very catchy.

That hurt to listen to. (the rasp) His voice sounds just trashed. He really should stop singing before he can't talk ever again. That sounds reallllly shredded.

I actually thought the GC singer was Shadows at first. haha.

[i am the robots]

See, we've got another!

[Crickets Hail The Goat]

See, we've got another!

The sad part is I kinda-sorta liked a GC song. :cool:

[i am the robots]

I liked the vocals during the chorus, and the music wasn't too bad.

[CityOfEvil]

I juste listen to it. I like Matt's voice but not the song generally. Its not what A7X make normally.

Hope its the only song feat GC.

[DKMode]

personally i like a raspy voice. all my favorite singers have raspy voices, so i have no problem with how he sounded in that song

[DKMode]

I juste listen to it. I like Matt's voice but not the song generally. Its not what A7X make normally.

Hope its the only song feat GC.

its not an avenged sevenfold song bud, its good charlotte featuring matt and syn. that basically means they had no hand in writing any of it, they just played on it.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Sometimes you help write the song that you "guest" on so it's not always the case. The dude from GC could have said "ok you'll do this verse, go write some lyrics", we can't be sure until you check the album credits or whatever.

[CityOfEvil]

Ok.. will it be on A7X album then?

[randomthought9]

That song was alright, even though they were barely on it. I gotta agree with you guys though, it hurt to hear Shadows singing.

[CityOfEvil]

Is anyone play Remenission?

I practice it but some part are not so easy.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Ok.. will it be on A7X album then?

No, it's a Good Charlotte song. You'll need to look in that album or ask someone that has it.

[AA-12]

http://www.myspace.com/goodcharlotte

Wtf, Matt sings one ****ing verse and that's it. What a load of ****,

Hahaha, this song is pretty good. Wtf.

[i am the robots]

For Good Charlotte, it's awesome. The keyboards kind of piss me off though, and their singer's voice is grating.

Then Shadows comes in and ugh.

[AA-12]

Matt's vocals are amazing in it. If the next A7X is like that, i'll be obsessed all over again.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I'm going to have to agree with Wotan on this one, I love his voice on it.

I'm even going to listen to it again. :thumb:

[Tillius]

A band I know invited me to do a show with them covering Unholy Confessions.
Might be fun.

[DKMode]

............................k.

[loathed]

my gawd, Matt actually sounds good on that song!!! the whole song sounds pretty good though, better than their previous works imo.

damnit, the solo actually makes the song sound better!

[DKMode]

woulda been way sweeter if syn played a ripping shred solo for like 2 minutes, but then i guess it wouldnt quite fit the song. and also GC are too shitty for cool stuff like that.

on another note, i read a thing where the rev says on the next album he is going to play so much more nutty stuff on the drums that he wants the other guys to have to tell him to calm down at certain points. this made me (as well as other drummers, im sure) quite happy. god as every day goes by i get more pumped to hear something new from this CD

[Crickets Hail The Goat]

No, it's a Good Charlotte song. You'll need to look in that album or ask someone that has it.

I think he doesn't understand English. :p

This is actually a tremendously catchy tune. I like it; in fact, I never thought I'd say I enjoy a GC song. LOL!

Matt's voice is terrible. He needs to seriously stop singing, for good. Or else, he won't be able to talk, ever again. Those chords are just trashed.

[VomitStainedCretin]

:lol:The new A7x album is already dividing fans before anything's been released.:lol:

[i am the robots]

Maybe Matt's voice sounds amazing as in the way your voice sounds after you've been vomitting for 3 days straight and getting in shouting matches with your parents while going through puberty.

[Iceman-rocker]

lmao. why the hating?

[i am the robots]

Because his voice doesn't sound good anymore, it sounds damaged.

[Iceman-rocker]

well thats true. but that happens to pretty much every band eventually.

[i am the robots]

Not even Matt Heafy's voice sounds that bad, he just sounds really weak constantly.

Jesse Leach's voice is back and more powerful than ever because he gave himself a few years before he went back to touring.

I don't know of any other singers who screamed and sang who gave up screaming because they were blowing their voice out doing it wrong.

The moral of the story is that Matt Sanders' voice is now worse than Matt Heafy's anyway. That's bad, that's real bad.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Dude, you can stop now. We all have our opinions, it's just that yours seems to be different than the majority of the people posting here, there's nothing you can do about it because arguing probably won't make them change their mind.

[loathed]

Yes, it doesnt make you look smarter. we all have our own opinions.

[AA-12]

lol@everyone saying he needs to stop singing.

His singing is fine now and better than ever.

[Crickets Hail The Goat]

Man, do you guys have ears? I don't mean to be rude, but it just screams at you(pun intended).

His voice sounds like it came through the wood chipper.

[AA-12]

That first sentence had too much sarcasm/puns :lol:

Anyway, I like it. Oh well.

[i am the robots]

DOES NOT SOUND HEALTHY KTHX

I'm done... for now.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Thank god.

[Iceman-rocker]

man. im in class right now, and my friend says she likes your avatar, cricketshailthegoat-man.

[DKMode]

worse than matt heafy.................are you ****ing kidding me?! im tempted to say that your idiot for making a comment like that, but i will restrain. i really dont see why everyone thinks it sounds so damaged. i thought it sounded great. clearly hes not hurting his voice or he would stop, as he has done in the past.

[AA-12]

Exactly.

[CityOfEvil]

I think he doesn't understand English. :p

Think youre talking of me. Well youre a lil bit right. Im not that good in english so sometimes its possible that this happen. :thumb:

[Crickets Hail The Goat]

Think youre talking of me. Well youre a lil bit right. Im not that good in english so sometimes its possible that this happen. :thumb:

I have noticed!!!

:thumb:

[CityOfEvil]

So sorry if sometimes things like that happen.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

So has anyone recorded any A7X tracks?

[i am the robots]

STILL SOUNDS LIKE POOPY

You guys are fanboys!

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

And you're immature.

Hey look:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aopinion&meta=

"Poopy"? 5 year olds say that.

And technically, I am a boy and a fan of A7X so yeah, I am a fan-boy. You say it like it's an insult. :rolleyes:

[DKMode]

oooooooooook then

[i am the robots]

alrighty.

so i was listening to I Won't See You Tonight, Pt. II today...

I can see just fine...

The vocals that whole part are freaking killer.

[DKMode]

agreed i love every second of that song. my favorite part vocally is the "I look back and see the twisted road, best friends and despair took its toll" part. its kinda like a hybrid clean/scream which is so gnarly. i hope he starts to sing like that again. i was trying to play that song on drums today and i forgot how hard it is to play well. thats why the rev is so dope i guess

[CityOfEvil]

And you're immature.

Hey look:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aopinion&meta=

"Poopy"? 5 year olds say that.

And technically, I am a boy and a fan of A7X so yeah, I am a fan-boy. You say it like it's an insult. :rolleyes:

Lol.. youre right. Like when you give the definition of an opinion :thumb:

agreed i love every second of that song. my favorite part vocally is the "I look back and see the twisted road, best friends and despair took its toll" part. its kinda like a hybrid clean/scream which is so gnarly. i hope he starts to sing like that again. i was trying to play that song on drums today and i forgot how hard it is to play well. thats why the rev is so dope i guess

Agree. That song is very good. I like more the first part but this one is so good too.

[i am the robots]

Part I is powerful though, because it's supposedly their ex-bassist's suicide note.

[CityOfEvil]

I didnt know that. Who was their ex-bassist?

[i am the robots]

The guy on Sounding The Seventh Trumpet... I cannot recall his name... somebody else would know, I wish Joe'd come back.

[CityOfEvil]

Ok. I find that song amazing. Its like one of my favorite song to play.

[i am the robots]

IWSYT, part I?

Part II is fun to play because it's just

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repeatedly

[CityOfEvil]

mmm what is IWSYT???

I never try part II

[i am the robots]

I won't see you tonight...

[CityOfEvil]

Lol.. too dumb.

Well yes that what I was talking about. Part I.

I found two ex-bassist : Dameon Ash or Justin Shane

[i am the robots]

I think it was Justin.

[CityOfEvil]

Hes the one who start with them. 1999 to 2001. After Dameon 2001 - 2002 and Johnny Christ 2002 - now.

[i am the robots]

Hmph, I'll figure it out later.

When I feel like it.

Because I'm tough, and say things like that.

[DKMode]

ya it was definitely justin. apparently he downed a couple bottles of cough syrup and tried to kill himself. rumor has it that some of the lines from the song are from the suicide note which was adressed to matt(?) but as ive discovered rumors are often bullshit

edit: why does it change some bad words to stupid words like bullsh1t to bullpoop and pu55y to spatula or something ****ed up like that?

[i am the robots]

Hmph, strange. It's really cool if it is though.

[CityOfEvil]

Lol.. you said tried.. is he dead or not?

[DKMode]

if he TRIED to kill himself, then he obviously failed and is still alive. if he was dead i would have said he committed suicide, not he tried to.

[CityOfEvil]

Ok I wasnt sure.

[CityOfEvil]

I search a little bit. I didnt find any place who talk about Justin tried to kill him. Anyone ever find a website they're talking about it?

[DKMode]

www.songmeanings.net i think is where i saw it. theres like 2 pages of discussion. just type in song meanings in google and its one of the top 2

[CityOfEvil]

Thanks I found it.

[CityOfEvil]

Which song do you guys find the harder and the easier to play?

[Mikesn]

Chapter Four is quite easy on guitars. That's the only A7X song I've tried to play though.

[CityOfEvil]

Lol.. I find it easy to play too, except the solo part.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I've only tried Chapter Four, Holy Confessions, Bat Country, I Won't See You Tonight pt. 2 and they're all easy. I never tried the solos though because I wasn't really interested in them but I'm not sure they're not too difficult. Plus, if I wanted 'em to sound sloppy then it'd be easy but I don't like to do that so I'd probably have to work on em a bit.

[i am the robots]

Desecrate Through Reverence is pretty easy too, and I'm a terrible guitarist.

They're good writers though.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I actually love that "The River" song so much I'm about to stick it on CD and learn it. :thumb:

[CityOfEvil]

I have to try Descrate through reverence.

Seize the day is easy too. Wont see you tonight part 1 too.

[randomthought9]

I actually love that "The River" song so much I'm about to stick it on CD and learn it. :thumb:

Haha, I like that song too. \m/

[DKMode]

i honestly have to say that i hate that song with a passion

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I love it with a passion. :thumb:

I learnt it in a few minutes and I'll probably tab it out soon.

[DKMode]

i guess im just really not into pop rock, which that song is basically the epitome of. anyways the link below is of me drumming along to beast and the harlot. the music is in the background so its not super boring to watch. i miss a cymbal at the end of the solo, but i think its not bad overall, considering it was spontaneous and i only decided to record it when it came on my ipod in shuffle mode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg6rPw2Ypow

anyways let me know what you think

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Not bad. It could use some work on getting it a bit smoother a d perfectly in time but the base of it is definitely there.

[Happy]

Which song do you guys find the harder and the easier to play?

honestly i found all the ones i tried easy.

[CityOfEvil]

i guess im just really not into pop rock, which that song is basically the epitome of. anyways the link below is of me drumming along to beast and the harlot. the music is in the background so its not super boring to watch. i miss a cymbal at the end of the solo, but i think its not bad overall, considering it was spontaneous and i only decided to record it when it came on my ipod in shuffle mode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg6rPw2Ypow

anyways let me know what you think

Thats good man. Im not an expert in drums but thats good:thumb:




honestly i found all the ones i tried easy.

Which one did you tried?

[Happy]

pretty much every song on coe and wtf

[CityOfEvil]

Well that's mean you're good. Can you play M.I.A's solo?

[DKMode]

Not bad. It could use some work on getting it a bit smoother a d perfectly in time but the base of it is definitely there.

ya i know its a bit sloppy in parts but the only part of the song i had ever really worked on was the solo. for the most part i was playing it based on how i play it when im air drumming along with it in my car. ill probably record another version thats smoother when i have time, or ill put up one of my recordings of burn it down or remenissions

[AmodestBeginning]

a7x RULES

[PsychoTronn]

a8x RULES

[i am the robots]

Avenged Sevenfold used to be pretty good!

[CityOfEvil]

ya i know its a bit sloppy in parts but the only part of the song i had ever really worked on was the solo. for the most part i was playing it based on how i play it when im air drumming along with it in my car. ill probably record another version thats smoother when i have time, or ill put up one of my recordings of burn it down or remenissions

Remenissions is so good. You have to show us that recording.

[RadicalPunk]

Sounding the Seventh Trumpet is a sick album. Brutal screams, twisted downtuned guitar lines, and a few soft things thrown in. A couple of songs don't really hit the mark but pretty good for A7X's first endeavor. Must say though that I find Waking the Fallen to be a bit over-rated. There are some pretty good songs on it but a lot of it just falls short, somewhere in between metalcore and 3 Doors Down-esque hard rock. City of Evil on the other hand, is ****ing insane. Awesome album. It manages to revitalize the kind of clean sung energetic heavy metal that bands like Iron Maiden pioneered in the 80s.
pootie tootie

[CityOfEvil]

I listen to the entire album Waking the fallen yesterday. All the songs are great and some are amazing. To end the Rapture is not very long, like 1 minute and a half but the guitar on this song is so awesome. I listen some songs of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet too, some great, some just normal.

[Ultimate Donky]

I'm about like you CityOfEvil, Waking the Fallen was my favorite album of A7X's by far. Matt's vocals were miles ahead of what they are today, sadly. I could do without his hardcore/banshee screaming, but his Hetfield-style vocals were amazing(chorus of Radiant Eclipse, ending of Chapter Four, etc). The City of Evil album was a slight disappointment to me as Matt's vocals sound trashed, and Matt's vocals were my favorite part of the band. But then again, the rest of the band sounds tighter on CoE than on any of the other albums. I have a bad feeling about their next album, but hopefully they'll get make it work even with Matt having crappy vocals now.

[CityOfEvil]

I admit that Matt's voice is crappy but I like it. On Waking the Fallen his screaming is so good and on CoE its good too but a lil bit worst. Im in a hurry to listen to the next album.

[i am the robots]

...And All Things Will End is really underrated.

[DKMode]

I listen to the entire album Waking the fallen yesterday. All the songs are great and some are amazing. To end the Rapture is not very long, like 1 minute and a half but the guitar on this song is so awesome. I listen some songs of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet too, some great, some just normal.

to end the rapture is on STST, not WtF, just so you know.

and i agree 100% with the guy above me. other than second heartbeat, i think thats my favorite song from WtF, but noone ever talks about it.

[Ultimate Donky]

...And All Things Will End is really underrated.

Agreed, it's a great song. I seriously HATE the way it ends, going from a kickass soloing to a progressively slow plodding death. Other than that it's straight up solid IMO, again a song that Shadows would likely sound horrible trying now.

[CityOfEvil]

to end the rapture is on STST, not WtF, just so you know.

and i agree 100% with the guy above me. other than second heartbeat, i think thats my favorite song from WtF, but noone ever talks about it.

Really.. I thought it was on WtF. Well I learned something ;)


And All Things Will End is very nice I agree with you.

[mish_a7x]

i am interrupting this thread with a big fat reality check. I am afraid to inform you all that Avenged Sevenfold are actually crap now.

Tbh i used to be a big fan. I went on about how good they were, but it is no more. City of Evil was sh!te, pure and simple.

If you actually think CoE is bearable, you are in serious need of a new set of ears. When i first obtained this 'album' I was fair, give it a go and all that. But last night i listened to it again for the first time in about 5/6 months and i was appalled. WTF and STST are good albums, but what the hell happened here?

I am genuinely dissapointed by Avenged, I want to remove that bloody part of my username and advise fans to look for a band worth your time.

I recommend Deftones.

[RadicalPunk]

You recommend Deftones but you think City of Evil is sh!t?

City of Evil>than anything deftones ever producedx10^6987439347924683769

Sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe its not hardcore enough for you. No sh!tty whining screams (*cough deftones cough*)

[AA-12]

CoE is easily the best work they've done. That's saying a lot, as WTF is amazing. I don't like STST at all though.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

i am interrupting this thread with a big fat reality check. I am afraid to inform you all that Avenged Sevenfold are actually crap now.

Tbh i used to be a big fan. I went on about how good they were, but it is no more. City of Evil was sh!te, pure and simple.

If you actually think CoE is bearable, you are in serious need of a new set of ears. When i first obtained this 'album' I was fair, give it a go and all that. But last night i listened to it again for the first time in about 5/6 months and i was appalled. WTF and STST are good albums, but what the hell happened here?

I am genuinely dissapointed by Avenged, I want to remove that bloody part of my username and advise fans to look for a band worth your time.

I recommend Deftones.


Oh man...what have I been doing all this time, I clearly could not see the light...

BUT!

The ultimate judge of music quality and taste has spoken! Every one burn your CoE CD's and erase all your CoE files from your computers, this album is not a thing to be had in your possession after the ultimate judge of musical quality and taste has spoken!

All other heretics shall be burnt at the stake if they are in the possession of this album one week from this date! HURRY MY BROTHERS, THE ALMIGHTY'S HAVE SPOKEN, GO WITH THE WORD OF GOD! SPREAD THE WORD FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF MUSIC QUALITY!

I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT


By the way, people who listen to The Deftones have literally little to no taste in music.

[AA-12]

nigga just got hobowned

[Concubine]

You recommend Deftones but you think City of Evil is sh!t?

City of Evil>than anything deftones ever producedx10^6987439347924683769

Sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe its not hardcore enough for you. No sh!tty whining screams (*cough deftones cough*)

Worst post ever

[AA-12]

It's true though.

[Concubine]

Nah

Avenged arent bad

But Deftones are just good

SNW > COE

[AA-12]

If all Deftones music was like Change, i'd love them.

[Concubine]

Well i still think White Pony is their best album.

Have you heard of the latest one, SNW? Its definitely better than their S/T

[AA-12]

Nah, I wasn't too interested in it at all.

[Concubine]

Ah k fair enough

[VomitStainedCretin]

It is possible to like both Avenged and the Deftones y'know :lol:

[i am the robots]

I like both bands a lot.

[CityOfEvil]

Never listen to it too but I gonna listen to it to see if I like it but I already know they will not beat A7X for me.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

CoE is easily the best work they've done. That's saying a lot, as WTF is amazing. I don't like STST at all though.

Exactly how I feel.

[Tillius]

It's hard for me to say it, because they've been my favorite band for so long, but I have found a band that I truly believe to be equal or even better than Avenged Sevenfold.
The Human Abstract
http://www.myspace.com/thehumanabstract

[whatsgrimace]

I didn't really like Bat Country much at all, but Beast in the Harlot is really catchy.

[AA-12]

The Human Abstract is really terrible to be honest. Just flat out bad.

[Tillius]

Hmmm...
To each his own I guess.
I really like them.

[DKMode]

anyone heard the live version of the wicked end on their myspace? i thought it was pretty wicked, you should check it out

edit: haha no pun intended on the wicked end being wicked, i only realized that after i posted it.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

It's hard for me to say it, because they've been my favorite band for so long, but I have found a band that I truly believe to be equal or even better than Avenged Sevenfold.
The Human Abstract
http://www.myspace.com/thehumanabstract

I'm listening to the first song for the first time now. They're not bad but I'd say I enjoy A7X more. Some of the little guitar runs are actually pretty cool though and the dudes voice is cool at times but overall it's quite annoying.

The guitarists are way better than the A7X guys but Sevenfold appeal to me a bit more, composition wise.

[AA-12]

THA guitarist are like 99% wank. Give me A7X style over that crap any day.

[CityOfEvil]

Another band to add on my list to listen to.

The live version of The Wicked End is good man. Just listen to it, guitar and all are same but vocals are different and I like it.

[CityOfEvil]

Guys I just listen to "The River". Start to like this song. I know weeks ago I said I dont like it but I listen to it 2 or 3 times and this song is great.

[Happy]

I haven't even heard it once yet.

[CityOfEvil]

Well listen to it. If you like GC you'll like it, if you don't.. it depends

[AA-12]

Yeah, I absolutely despise GC and like it though.

[CityOfEvil]

I can't stop listen to it, Im trying to do it on guitar, not so hard.

[DKMode]

that song is such junk, it actually makes me sick to listen to. the only redeeming quality is m's voice is way better than it was on CoE. other than that its pure garbage.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I can't stop listen to it, Im trying to do it on guitar, not so hard.

I'm with ya there mate, I fookin love it.

[randomthought9]

i really like the river, i'm so excited for the new a7x album. i mean they made most of us like a good charlotte song.

[broken_]

there's breaking musical barriers, and then there's just the WTF!? I have lost a lot of respect for this band, as they use to be one of my favorites. Waking the Fallen is still one of my top albums, but this band is just garbage now. It's just awesome guitar licks going along to annoying vocal melodies. I still can't believe they got a track on the new Guitar Hero game, haha.

edit: totally just realized wtf can also stand for waking the fallen, but that wasn't how it was intended to be used.

[broken_]

The Human Abstract is really terrible to be honest. Just flat out bad.

this is where i'd slap you
but this will do :smash:

[DKMode]

just because they changed their style of music over CDs doesnt mean they suck now. if they continue to evolve then chances are their next CD will be in another completely different style, so maybe youll like them again. this is what pisses me off about all the people who say CoE was junk, it was a new direction, and at least they expressed themselves. just a little anger i show towards the people who say they sold out/arent good anymore

[broken_]

just because they changed their style of music over CDs doesnt mean they suck now. if they continue to evolve then chances are their next CD will be in another completely different style, so maybe youll like them again. this is what pisses me off about all the people who say CoE was junk, it was a new direction, and at least they expressed themselves. just a little anger i show towards the people who say they sold out/arent good anymore

i realize they changed their direction. and it sucks. they didn't sellout i will give you that. but they are garbage. CoE is cheese. its a known fact. its basically power metal. no matter how cool it sounds, its still power metal:smash:

[broken_]

and the reason they changed their direction so dramatically, was because their vocalist is an idiot, and screamed improperly. Their old stuff is very tasteful, but the new stuff is garbage, pure *** wreaking garbage. And I can elaborate on this all day, but it's still garbage.

[deathscreamingsheep]

its a known fact

Actually mate, it's an oinion.

Also City of Evil is not power metal.

And I wouldn't describe a lot of their old stuff e.g. overblown ballad IWSYT part 1 as exactly tasteful, or free of cheese for that matter either.

[Happy]

i realize they changed their direction. and it sucks. they didn't sellout i will give you that. but they are garbage. CoE is cheese. its a known fact. its basically power metal. no matter how cool it sounds, its still power metal:smash:

Uhh it's definitely not power metal.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

:lol: Power metal!!! Wtf dude.

City Of Evil pwns your life, deal with it.

[broken_]

So many of you kids jumped on the band-wagon with this band. I'm glad you're all confident to stand up for your own "opinions", but it's still garbage. The only thing worth mentioning off of CoE is the improvement on the guitars, but even then I still hear cheese. I started listening to these guys at least 5 years ago, long before they released WTF. The transition they made going into that album was great. They went from a Punk-Rock/Hardcore sound into more of a Metal-core band. And at the time it was done, it was great. This whole change into this glam-metal or whatever you can call it, just wasn't smooth. They sound too much like Motley Crue, or Guns and Roses, and strangely enough look like them too. You kids say it's great and awesome, but how is it? Saying something is great or crap, isn't having an opinion. You kids get all hostile when people insult your music, but if you have an opinion people will respect it.

[AA-12]

I started listening to them the day WTF came out, and yeah, CoE is by far my favorite. I still love WTF though. Not so much STST

[whatsgrimace]

You know what Avenged Sevenfold needs?

[AA-12]

A new album

[whatsgrimace]

Me neither.

[broken_]

You know what Avenged Sevenfold needs?

a fanbase who's average age isn't countable on my toes?

[AA-12]

Who cares about their fanbase.

[broken_]

Who cares about their fanbase.

they should

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

a fanbase who's average age isn't countable on my toes?

Opinions are only respectable opinions if you can be mature about it.

If you cannot be mature about it, and don't do it because the other party does it, or don't voice your opinion at all please.

[broken_]

Opinions are only respectable opinions if you can be mature about it.

If you cannot be mature about it, and don't do it because the other party does it, or don't voice your opinion at all please.

okay. all whit and sarcasm aside...

i wouldn't be surprised if the average age of kids who listen to these guys now is 12 or lower. which is puzzling considering the lyrics they write really don't seem to reach out to that audience.

sarcasm is only as ignorant as the person who acknowledges it.

[AA-12]

I've never met anyone under 15 that likes them.

[broken_]

I've never met anyone under 15 that likes them.

does that include yourself? :rolleyes:

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

sarcasm is only as ignorant as the person who acknowledges it.


Granted, witty comments and sarcasm have a time and place for sure because they are what make the internet fun, right? heh

But when the comments go back and forth in petty meaningless insults it loses it's flare.

[AA-12]

does that include yourself? :rolleyes:

What? Are you saying I act like i'm younger than 15 or something?

[broken_]

touche

[Derock]

chicken nugget?

[broken_]

chicken nugget?

deep fried

[AA-12]

Ugh, go away. Don't spam.

[broken_]

Ugh, go away. Don't spam.

:amaze: you tell him

[CityOfEvil]

I've never met anyone under 15 that likes them.

Well now you know someone who like them under 15 lol.

Im 14, but I dont see what is the problem with that.

[Happy]

Man don't you know the rules of music.
If the band's liked by kids under 15 they automatically suck.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Who the **** is this broken_ asshole. Stop telling us our opinions are wrong just because you don't agree. I can accept the fact you don't like CoF but at least try and accept the fact that most of us do, ok?

[whatsgrimace]

I think he's 11.

[CityOfEvil]

Man don't you know the rules of music.
If the band's liked by kids under 15 they automatically suck.

So it mean that A7X suck just because I like them? Idiot rule

[Jeckyll]

MTV says that a7x introduced metalcore to tv.

To bad they're a bunch of pop metal pussies

[Happy]

MTV lies a lot.

Why the hell do you watch it?

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I think he's 11.

It certainly seems like it.

[Cocaine]

MTV says that a7x introduced metalcore to tv.

To bad they're a bunch of pop metal pussies

And too bad none of A7x's Metalcore material has a video to go a long with it.

[TheOpethAffinity]

does that include yourself? :rolleyes:

Go away. CoE is 432263 miles above their earlier stuff.

[Ultimate Donky]

^All but the vocals and cheesy melodies, sure.

[DKMode]

i didnt think the melodies were too cheesy. more so than WtF, but still acceptable i thought

[broken_]

Who the **** is this broken_ asshole. Stop telling us our opinions are wrong just because you don't agree. I can accept the fact you don't like CoF but at least try and accept the fact that most of us do, ok?

i think you may have troubles reading. i never said your opinions were wrong little boy. i disagreed with them, and stated my own. now you know the concept of a proper arguement :thumb:

[broken_]

I think he's 11.

all you kids do is think. none of you know anything. what a shame.

[AA-12]

broken_ needs to just leave, permanently.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

all you kids do is think. none of you know anything. what a shame.

We all know that you're from Canada and you're a moany little bitch.

[CityOfEvil]

broken_ needs to just leave, permanently.

Agree another time with you :thumb:

[Volumnius Flush]

They are a kind of all right band. Clairvoyant Disease is a cool song. I really like Unholy Confessions and Chapter Four. Most of their other stuff I'm pretty immune to and uninterested in.

[CityOfEvil]

Clairvoyant disease is too good. I love it

[CityOfEvil]

Clairvoyant disease is too good. I love it

[DKMode]

its probably my least favorite song from WtF, still amazing though

[CityOfEvil]

My best song on WtF is Desecrate through reverance. This song is awesome.

Sorry for the two posts before.

[i am the robots]

its probably my least favorite song from WtF, still amazing though

This post is 100% accurate.

[CityOfEvil]

I just listen to Warmness on the soul on STST.

Its like the calmest song of all Avenged Sevenfold. I like it though.

[Pebster49]

I thought "I Won't See You Tonight, Part 1 and Part 2" amazing...

[DKMode]

those 2 both took me a little time to get used to - especially part 2 - but now i love them............especially part 2!!! i like how it has such a frantic tone to it, which is apparently what they were going for.

[Happy]

I just listen to Warmness on the soul on STST.

Its like the calmest song of all Avenged Sevenfold. I like it though.

One of my favourite songs. I wish I could play it on piano :p

[CityOfEvil]

Part 1 and 2 are amazing I agree. Part 1 is very calm too.

I would like to play it too on piano. But I dont have a piano. :lol:

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

I just listen to Warmness on the soul on STST.

Its like the calmest song of all Avenged Sevenfold. I like it though.

Such a good song with great vocals.

[CityOfEvil]

I saw the video.

There is just Matt in it and I think he plays piano. Not sure..

[DKMode]

its hard to tell who plays piano on which song because im pretty sure the rev, shadows, and syn are all fairly practiced pianists who have all played on certain songs. im pretty sure its the rev on IWSYT1, and shadows on WotS. i also heard it was syn on seize the day. i dont know its all confusing, anyone know if any of this is true, or am i just talking out of my ***?

[VomitStainedCretin]

I think Gates is credited for most if not all of the piano work on COE, if I correctly recall.

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

It might say in the booket. It says in the StST that M. Shadows plays all acoustic guitars and keyboards.

[CityOfEvil]

On City of Evil or WTF album its says who play what.

Syn plays piano on Seize the day if I remember corectly. For the other I dont remember.

I know that on City Of Evil almost all the acoustic guitar is play by Syn's father Brian Haner.

[Happy]

It might say in the booket. It says in the StST that M. Shadows plays all acoustic guitars and keyboards.

Nope, Syn's dad plays all acoustic guitars on CoE. I know Shadows wrote Warmness and Seize the day on the piano, no clue if he plays 'em.

[CityOfEvil]

If you look in the video, theres like 3 seconds where we saw Matt stopping signing and you can see his arms moving, dont know if it is because he plays piano.

[Happy]

The Warmness video? Yeah he's playing piano in that. He wrote it to his girlfriend.

[CityOfEvil]

Ok so thats what I thought.

But why its not the rest of the band who play in that video? Well, its not seem that there is Syn or Zacky or The Rev in it. Like the solo its not one of the two.

[Happy]

The Rev and Zacky are in it. Zacky plays the solo.
Syn hadn't joined the band at that point and they had a different bassist.

[CityOfEvil]

Zacky doesnt look the same in that.

Damn you know all of them. I thought I know many things but not that much actually :lol:

[Happy]

haha I normally find myself knowing a little too much about bands I like :p

[CityOfEvil]

Well thats good. You can share what you know to others like me who think they know a lot but finally not. ;)

[Hate Crew Deathroll]

Nope, Syn's dad plays all acoustic guitars on CoE. I know Shadows wrote Warmness and Seize the day on the piano, no clue if he plays 'em.

I didn't say anything about CoE. I said:

"It says in the StST that M. Shadows plays all acoustic guitars and keyboards."


And Apparantly S.Gates was in the band at that point otherwise it wouldn't say this in the album booklet too:

"Avenged Sevenfold Is...

M.Shadows - Vocals
Zacky Vengeanec - Guitar
Synyster Gates - Guitar"

etc.

[Happy]

I do apologise then :p

COE looks like I don't know much either haha.

I think Syn's not in the video because he joined right before the release?