Avenged Sevenfold

[Drunken Viking]

Beast and the Harlot ftw.

[Charizard]

Screw that song... unless you would allow me to maybe try out some harsh vocals for the verses, just to see if I could write a fitting vocal line?

Come one, testing new things is fun, and changing songs to make them more unique for covers is awesome.

[Drunken Viking]

Ok, just don't destroy it. :)

[Charizard]

I'll try.

[MRDuCran]

I'll try.

..she said as she walked awaaaayyy

Try not to lose yoooou...

...two vibrant hearts couuuld chaaaange!!!!


I got a few pics from Download this year, they're not great quality and they look far away but I was in the second row and Bat Country sounded awesome live so I'm happy. I really like Shadows, he seems really cool to me.

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[i am the robots]

Yeah, so I never got around to recording, sorry.

[TEST]

..she said as she walked awaaaayyy

Try not to lose yoooou...

...two vibrant hearts couuuld chaaaange!!!!


I got a few pics from Download this year, they're not great quality and they look far away but I was in the second row and Bat Country sounded awesome live so I'm happy. I really like Shadows, he seems really cool to me.

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resize + tinypic, kthx

[AA-12]

^Those all fit on my screen :-\

[TEST]

^Those all fit on my screen :-\
They fit my screen too. There's no need for pix that size. ++ Tinypic > all

[AA-12]

Pictures that size = better :)

[TEST]

Pictures that size = better :)
yerrr mom = better

[MRDuCran]

That's the original size.

[rockgod90]

I get the whole "no screaming" thing on COE, but not why they still don't do their other song with screams. I saw a video of them at the KROQ ALMOST ACOUSTIC thing and Shadows did some screaming.....

[Drunken Viking]

He doesn't want to.

[MRDuCran]

I think it sounds pretty cool when he goes really high, but it's still powerful and so it kidna sounds like a scream, but it's not.

He does that weird accent thing on Beast and the Harlot too.

[TEST]

That's the original size.
Hence the term resize.

[MRDuCran]

No.

[SimonCore]

So when we gonna hear this b+h recording then? :)

[MRDuCran]

Not anytime soon, I haven't started the drums yet.

I was saying, I might have to transcribe the intro myself 'cause it sounds to me like the 2 guitar pro tabs are incorrect.

[I'm Charming]

Not anytime soon, I haven't started the drums yet.

I was saying, I might have to transcribe the intro myself 'cause it sounds to me like the 2 guitar pro tabs are incorrect.
There's a text tab on MX for Beast and the harlot that I learned off a long time ago. The intro was correct.

EDIT: Lemme find the link.

Try this and tell me what ya think (http://mxtabs.net/tab_versions.php?path=Guitar,a,7891,Avenged+Sevenf old,Beast+And+The+Harlot,206596)

[MRDuCran]

Oh no, I meant the drum track. I don't think I'm playing any instruments on this, but it I'm doing the drum programming apparantly.

If it comes out ok, I'll probably record my own version anyway.

But I probably will try transcribe the solos myself too because that txt tab looks like it was extracted from a powertab/guitar pro file, and I don't think any of them have the solos 100%.

[I'm Charming]

Oh no, I meant the drum track. I don't think I'm playing any instruments on this, but it I'm doing the drum programming apparantly.

If it comes out ok, I'll probably record my own version anyway.

But I probably will try transcribe the solos myself too because that txt tab looks like it was extracted from a powertab/guitar pro file, and I don't think any of them have the solos 100%.
Yeah. I never played the solos. Basically everything except the solos. It wasn't that hard either. I played it when I'd played for like uggh I think 1 yearish or less

[MRDuCran]

It doesn't sound too hard. The solos do, though. I'm intrested in how they'll come out. Can't remember who's playing them though.

There's a fast solo bit in Burn It Down too.

[MRDuCran]

This drum track isn't going well, I'm not happy with the drum sounds, tom's mainly.

[I'm Charming]

It doesn't sound too hard. The solos do, though. I'm intrested in how they'll come out. Can't remember who's playing them though.

There's a fast solo bit in Burn It Down too.
Burn It Down..... That lead riff is hard.

[MRDuCran]

If you mean the harmonized the bit at the beginning, then I think that's easy.

I mean the solo that sounds hard. Synyster Gates is one of those fast sloppy players that pulls it off, but it makes it hard for us to copy because it's not 100% accurate in the first place. I think he uses economy picking alot too.

The solo bit is around 3:41.

[I'm Charming]

If you mean the harmonized the bit at the beginning, then I think that's easy.

I mean the solo that sounds hard. Synyster Gates is one of those fast sloppy players that pulls it off, but it makes it hard for us to copy because it's not 100% accurate in the first place. I think he uses economy picking alot too.

The solo bit is around 3:41.
Economy picking?

[MRDuCran]

Using a downstroke to cross 2 strings instead of using a down and then an up.


G----7---
D-5------

...D..U... = Alternate picking


__________________________________________________ ___________-


G----7---
D-5------

...D..D...=Economy picking.

[guitarizzle]

So, Avenged Sevenfold's new video for "Seize the Day" will be released this Friday on their Myspace.

:chug:

[deathscreamingsheep]

Here's two pics from it:

http://warnerreprise.com/artist_newsletters/avenged/matt1.gif

http://warnerreprise.com/artist_newsletters/avenged/zackjumps.gif

The first pic of shadows made me think "oh noes, a crappy behind blue eyes-esque vid", but the one of Zacky intrigues me.

[TEST]

Using a downstroke to cross 2 strings instead of using a down and then an up.


G----7---
D-5------

...D..U... = Alternate picking


__________________________________________________ ___________-


G----7---
D-5------

...D..D...=Economy picking.

Isn't that slower? DD? That'd be far slower than DU

[MRDuCran]

Isn't that slower? DD? That'd be far slower than DU

You haven't seen Michael Romeo's "The Guitar Chapter" video have you...?

Plus, Yngwie Malmsteen uses it all the time and whether people like him or not, he's fukking fast.

[TEST]

You haven't seen Michael Romeo's "The Guitar Chapter" video have you...?

Plus, Yngwie Malmsteen uses it all the time and whether people like him or not, he's fukking fast.
He's very fast. but rather boring.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah but again, the spotlight here is on his technique. All that stuff he does coming up and going down the Amin scale is done alot of the time with economy picking.

Michael Angelo Batio also shows this on his instructional video, have you seen that?

[finnishpunkdudeowns]

what is and when does there next video come out if anyone knows?????

[MRDuCran]

I know you're banned and everything but someone posted this information 6 posts up...

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12742007&postcount=4034

[TEST]

I know you're banned and everything but someone posted this information 6 posts up...

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12742007&postcount=4034

haha. I know. It's only like one more day. Bannings mean nothing. I have two accounts and enough proxies to feed all of Africa.

Speaking of proxies. I have great list sites too. Seriously lightning fast. I've actually gotten worried it wasn't config'd/working, then realized they were just so fast. (I'll never tell my links)

How's your a7x cover going? I'll check that link.

[AA-12]

I was just playing some A7X at the hotel on my Ukulele \m/

[TEST]

I was just playing some A7X at the hotel on my Ukulele \m/

you ....are.....kidding...me?

[MRDuCran]

haha. I know. It's only like one more day. Bannings mean nothing. I have two accounts and enough proxies to feed all of Africa.

Speaking of proxies. I have great list sites too. Seriously lightning fast. I've actually gotten worried it wasn't config'd/working, then realized they were just so fast. (I'll never tell my links)

How's your a7x cover going? I'll check that link.

I aimed that post at "finnishpunkdudeowns" cause he asked when and what their next video was.

I dunno about the cover, I'm apparantly in charge of drum programming but I got annoyed with the tom sounds the other week. It just doesn't sound like the song at all without any of the instruments behind it so it's hard to tell if it sounds good or not.

[AA-12]

you ....are.....kidding...me?
100% true

Nile too, haha.

[i am the robots]

ROFL, that's absolutely amazing. It reminds me of the scene from the KSE dvd where Joel and Adam are playing Life to Lifeless on mini guitars.

[TEST]

100% true

Nile too, haha.
I want videos of this~

[AA-12]

I'll see if my Mac can make videos with the onboard cam.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I liked the Sieze the Day video. Pretty nice stuff, better than their other attempts.

Shadows ears look ridiculous without his lobe-stretching earrings.

[MRDuCran]

Are you looking on their myspace, I can only see Bat Country and Beast and the Harlot.

[nowitzki]

Hmm, the Sieze the Day video seems to have been taken down, and its not on youtube either...

[TurnTheOtherWay]

I listened to the Second Heartbeat solo the other day. Yep, just as good as I remembered.

Why did they choose Seize the Day for the next single? That song blows on all accounts...

[I'm Charming]

I listened to the Second Heartbeat solo the other day. Yep, just as good as I remembered.

Why did they choose Seize the Day for the next single? That song blows on all accounts...
I like it alot

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Iused to love that song,but i honestly think the vocals in that song are too painfull to handle.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Why did they choose Seize the Day for the next single? That song blows on all accounts...

Because it's got that November Rain sort of Guns N Roses feel that people who are put off by their image from previous singles and the sound will listen to. Plus it's not very heavy so radio stations that are even more mainstream than the ones they were played on before will have no qualms about playing the single.

I think it's a good song.

It's up on their myspace again now by the way.

[I'm Charming]

Iused to love that song,but i honestly think the vocals in that song are too painfull to handle.
I like the vox.

[TurnTheOtherWay]

I hate everything about that song. First off, it reminds me of GnR (which is bad). Shadows' voice is terribly whiny throughout most of the song, especially the bridge. Probably the whiniest on the album. And it also comes across as the obligatory power ballad that some bands put on the album for radio play, and that just bugs me. On top of that, the chorus harpoons into my head any time I listen to it, making me hear it for the rest of the day, reminding me why I hate it so much.

I really don't see what you guys like about the song, but whatever it is more power to ya. I personally just skip track 6 on the rare occasion I listen to CoE, and I'm not looking forward to 3+ months of heavy airplay of it.

[i am the robots]

Same here man, same here.

[Happy]

Why did they choose Seize the Day for the next single? That song blows on all accounts...
Along with the reasons already stated, it's their most radio-friendly song.

Some of the singing in it sounds like Justin Timberlake to me.

[deathscreamingsheep]

It may be their most radio friendly but I still love it.

So yeah, any other opinions on the video.

[Happy]

well... That guitar solo is horribly cheesy.

[I'm Charming]

Why does this song remind people of GNR? I've listened to TONS of GNR and I've never gotten that feel.

[Happy]

I dunno why but the piano reminds me of November Rain.

But the video has similarities.

[MRDuCran]

That's Matt's girlfriend apparantly, the pregnant one.

I don't really care for music videos, I'd rather watch a "live" one where they're just playing together somewhere and then there's flashbacks of other stuff.

[I'm Charming]

I dislike music videos. I love live vids though

[Against Miik!]

I wish MIA would be a single, but at 8 minutes, there is no way. It could make for an epic video though, kinda like how November Rain was. But when was the last time you saw a band release an 8 minute single? Doesn't happen any more .

[MRDuCran]

I've only listened to the first 4 tracks off City of Evil, shame on me.

[I'm Charming]

I've only listened to the first 4 tracks off City of Evil, shame on me.
It's an epic album. ALL THE SONGS ARE GREAT

[i am the robots]

That's in your opinion, but many of the older fans (myself included) really dislike the album.

[I'm Charming]

I hate STST. It's just bland metalcore. I go into them when I heard several tracks on WTF.

[MRDuCran]

I love Warmness on the Soul, but apart from that nothing off of StST stood out to me that much. I think the change from that to WtF was huge, and again then to CoE. I love the first 4 tracks off of it so far and I like most of WtF.

[I'm Charming]

They make an incredible progression with each album. It really shows their dedication as musicians.

[i am the robots]

I absolutely love STST, it's an amazing album.

[TurnTheOtherWay]

Eleventeen, I think I love you... in the most non-sexual way possible...

[-:Vincent:-]

In my opinion STST and WTF are both great albums, and although I don't like COE as much the instruments are just as good.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Just bought my ticket for the Sydney show in August.Cant wait.

[rockgod90]

I heard of an unreleased track they did called "A Fire Within." Does anyone know where I can find it? (I've already searched LimeWire)

[MRDuCran]

I've never heard of it.

I just found some live videos on youtube of Avenged playing at Rock AM Ring this year, cool stuff. I enjoyed Burn It Down.

Pantera cover - Walk (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZ5JWc7REZY&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Blinded in Chains (http://youtube.com/watch?v=sZ_jVNTLXgY&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Burn It Down (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JyoyEEeJ9ws&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Beast and the Harlot (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kgtg52XKIlw&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Unholy Confessions (http://youtube.com/watch?v=wm8HOviVIfY&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
To End the Rapture (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tdCWeA2r2-4&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Bat Country (http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5zujWXMblI&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)

:cool:

[SimonCore]

I prefer old school A7X (WTF, STST) but i really enjoy city of Evil aswell. And off STST tracks like an epic of time wasted, and darkness surrounding are pure genius.

[AA-12]

I've never heard of it.

I just found some live videos on youtube of Avenged playing at Rock AM Ring this year, cool stuff. I enjoyed Burn It Down.

Pantera cover - Walk (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZ5JWc7REZY&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Blinded in Chains (http://youtube.com/watch?v=sZ_jVNTLXgY&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Burn It Down (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JyoyEEeJ9ws&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Beast and the Harlot (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kgtg52XKIlw&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Unholy Confessions (http://youtube.com/watch?v=wm8HOviVIfY&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
To End the Rapture (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tdCWeA2r2-4&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)
Bat Country (http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5zujWXMblI&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring)

:cool:
I have only watched U.C. so far. The guitar tone is hilarious.

[SimonCore]

^^The bass is ridiculously high on that! Volumewise

[MRDuCran]

Yeah the levels were horrible. I noticed it alot on Beast and the Harlot.

[AA-12]

Some of his vocals are hilarious there too.

[SimonCore]

Oh my god i never though i hated the new vocals THAT much live. But that was just embarrasing to say "I like that band". I thought they also seemed to lack a certain energy they normally have when playing live.

[Happy]

The backing vocals are so horrible they're funny.

[Jaxom_of_the_Lambs]

Obviously, I didn't read all this thread, but I'm going to give my opinion on the band. Woot.

I've heard some of their 'older' stuff (I don't really know much about them, to be honest), I have Waking The Fallen and a few songs from other albums, which I like a good deal. I heard some of the new album (w/o screaming) and I just kind of hated it. I thought it was strange that Avenged Sevendfold was on the warp tour until I heard some of the new songs. The screaming + singing was a very effective contrast. Now, he sings and does some kind of punk whine I think. Definitely not my style.

Interesting event: I heard one song on SIRIUS that was just kind of funny. It started with a palm muted open part that sounded death metal-y and almost reminded me of Decapitated a little. Then, all of a sudden, it turned into some kind of insanely happy, upbeat solo with almost no transition. Then it went into the punky voice and not-coolness that I am disappointed with. Too bad. Now I'm thinking I'll have to go buy some more old albums. Or download some to punish them for selling out (IMO).

¡Adios!

[Happy]

Buy some old albums eh?
They only have 3 :thumb:


(I hope it's 3 )

[DKMode]

ya what the **** were with those backup vocals. they were awful. i was extremely shocked. syn sounded ok, but zacky was terrible.

[Prince Charming]

ya what the **** were with those backup vocals. they were awful. i was extremely shocked. syn sounded ok, but zacky was terrible.
Yeah. Their live show is really based around looking cool.

It's a shame, because I think they're quite talented musicians.

[MRDuCran]

I agree about Zacky's vocals being off. Synyster was decent.

There's this thing Matt does with his voice to get kinda low and it sounds sorta, "honky". I actually like it.

He does it here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kgtg52XKIlw&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring

1:41 when he says "A city of Evil"

And here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JyoyEEeJ9ws&search=avenged%20sevenfold%20rock%20am%20ring

At 00:49 and 1:11, 2:03 etc

Cool.

[DKMode]

the weird thing is that ive seen alot of their live videos and this is the first time ive noticed the backup vocals being off. its understandable that they dont sound exactly like the album seeing as their is so many different backup melodies, but they should try and figure something else out. shadows was very true to the recordings live though so thats good.

[Interviewer/surveyer]

Ill tell you why Avenged Sevenfold sucks. Because they have to play a cover song to get applause. Fairies.

[Crysiss]

Im not too crazy about the way the stand there looking like guitar heroes. But what else do you do when you got a stage that huge lol.

[Prince Charming]

Ill tell you why Avenged Sevenfold sucks. Because they have to play a cover song to get applause. Fairies.
Please leave. Spam isn't welcome in serious discussion sub forums.

[Crysiss]

Especially when your trashing on a band. Some threads of bands I cant stand here. But I stay respectful to others musical tastes and just stay out. Otherwise Id just make a dick out of myself.

Oh and yes. The BG vocals are off.

[Prince Charming]

Their live tone is awful though.

On the walk cover. They weren't tuned right. Dimebag tuned 1/4 step down off any tuning he played in.

So a7x prolly just stayed in DADGBE and didn't tune the 1/4 step down.

[Crysiss]

It really does make a difference. But I do think that their live tone is pretty much almost as good as dimebags recording tunes.

[Prince Charming]

It really does make a difference. But I do think that their live tone is pretty much almost as good as dimebags recording tunes.


Yeah, but failing to tune that 1/4 step makes it sound off.

[Crysiss]

I was agreeing with you. That wasn't sarcasm haha.

[Prince Charming]

I was agreeing with you. That wasn't sarcasm haha.
I know. They just want to "look cool" live it seems. They're very talented and it's too bad they don't just play well.

[Crysiss]

I noticed that their style doesnt vary much. They seem to wear the same looking clothes every time I see them.

[Prince Charming]

I noticed that their style doesnt vary much. They seem to wear the same looking clothes every time I see them.

They wish they were G&R

[Crysiss]

Oh no you didn't! hahaha.

Im pretty sure Drunken Viking would explode at that.

[Prince Charming]

Oh no you didn't! hahaha.

Im pretty sure Drunken Viking would explode at that.
He can cry me a river.

[MRDuCran]

Well I'd much rather watch them being "guitar heroes" than just standing their in a shirt and smart trousers or whatnot. Running around and doing guitar poses is what being a performer is about. The sound for that gig wasn't their fault though.

[Super Wotan]

^I agree

[MRDuCran]

:eek: Nowai

[Super Wotan]

Yahwai

[Prince Charming]

oh yes wai

[Drunken Viking]

Heh, I doubt they wish they were GnR, disbanded and pathetic. But I do agree with MRuDuCran about the whole guitar heroes thing. But the majority of bootlegs and when I saw them they were still really good, every band has there off nights. Just look at the entire Live In San Diego Concert minus the solo from Synyster. Pretty damn good. Or the Live At The Marquee bootleg on Google Video, again really good.

[Prince Charming]

Heh, I doubt they wish they were GnR, disbanded and pathetic. But I do agree with MRuDuCran about the whole guitar heroes thing. But the majority of bootlegs and when I saw them they were still really good, every band has there off nights. Just look at the entire Live In San Diego Concert minus the solo from Synyster. Pretty damn good. Or the Live At The Marquee bootleg on Google Video, again really good.


^^ We were talking about the videos posting ITT. That's all.

I didn't mean they can't ever play well.

I didn't mean G&R in that sense. I meant style/attitude.

[MRDuCran]

Well they are influenced by GnR. Isn't Appetite for Destruction Matt's favourite album? Or is it the Use Your Illusions series? I forgot.

[Prince Charming]

Musically influcned by G&R is a good thing. People always take that as an insult.

I have no idea why. G&R aren't my favorite band, but they are damn good.

[MRDuCran]

Damn right. I would have loved to have seen them live back in the 80's in their purest, more drunk and drugged up form. The live videos look so intense.

[Shadius]

My biggest problem with them being influenced by GnR is that the vocals are becoming Axl Rose style, and while Shadows had good tone on WTF his tone is slipping towards the more nasal and raw Axl style.

Axl has good range, and a reasonably powerful voice, it's just that his timbre is terrible.

[MRDuCran]

My biggest problem with them being influenced by GnR is that the vocals are becoming Axl Rose style, and while Shadows had good tone on WTF his tone is slipping towards the more nasal and raw Axl style.

Axl has good range, and a reasonably powerful voice, it's just that his timbre is terrible.

I like both Shadows' harsh and clean voice. I think that half distorted shout he does it great.

I do agree about Axl's timbre though, it's so whiney but yeah amazing range and power. He has alot of endurance/stamina too, especially running all over the place like that. You can kinda see it in Matt a little bit too. I'd say he was probably my fave band member, although I'm not a vocalist, I love watching him perform.

[DKMode]

Well they are influenced by GnR. Isn't Appetite for Destruction Matt's favourite album? Or is it the Use Your Illusions series? I forgot.
im pretty sure it was the use your illusion series. i cant remember where i read that but im about 96% sure that thats what it is. definitely a good band to be influenced by if you like balls to the wall rock n roll.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah I kinda thought it was the UYI series, 'cause I read something along the lines of "the 2 albums" and obviously it's basically a double album.

[MegaMustaine]

TBH I can't stand the new vocal style nor the new style as a whole.

[Lartsa]

Matt's vocals live now are tolerable, I remember viewing some videos they were going to use for their DVD, and at some parts I felt as if he was over singing.

[DKMode]

Theyre releasing a live DVD???

[MRDuCran]

That'd be cool, I'd buy that.

[Prince Charming]

I'd torrent and consider buying.

I'm going to listen to WTF tonight.

[Arucard]

Heh, I doubt they wish they were GnR, disbanded and pathetic. But I do agree with MRuDuCran about the whole guitar heroes thing. But the majority of bootlegs and when I saw them they were still really good, every band has there off nights. Just look at the entire Live In San Diego Concert minus the solo from Synyster. Pretty damn good. Or the Live At The Marquee bootleg on Google Video, again really good.

Guns n Roses > Avenged Sevenfold.

[SimonCore]

Interesting event: I heard one song on SIRIUS that was just kind of funny. It started with a palm muted open part that sounded death metal-y and almost reminded me of Decapitated a little. Then, all of a sudden, it turned into some kind of insanely happy, upbeat solo with almost no transition. Then it went into the punky voice and not-coolness that I am disappointed with. Too bad. Now I'm thinking I'll have to go buy some more old albums. Or download some to punish them for selling out (IMO).

¡Adios!

Burn it down

[Lartsa]

Theyre releasing a live DVD???

Well, at this point I don't know.
I've heard them talk about it once before, I saw the videos on Youtube; They had like the name of the song, in their font and everything; It looked professional. I haven't heard anything since.

The videos were: Unholy Confessions, Beast And The Harlot, Second Heartbeat, and Burn It Down. Posted by xBryanx.

[DKMode]

ya ive seen all those, but just because they look professional doesnt mean theyre for a DVD. have you actually heard from any member of the band theyre releasing one?

[SimonCore]

The DvD there releasing will be the one filmed at San Diego won't it? that had like an intro and the name of the songs appeared and stuff. It was on their first proper USA tour of the new album.

[Drunken Vikings]

That was just for MTV I think. They said they if they were gonna do one it would be half concert footage half just them, like LoG's Killadelphia I'm thinking.

[DKMode]

that would be amazing. i would love to see some of their backstage activities and parties.

[loathed]

anyone here went for their gigs?

does matt still scream like when he does on WTF?

or do they not play songs from WTF anymore?

[MRDuCran]

anyone here went for their gigs?

does matt still scream like when he does on WTF?

or do they not play songs from WTF anymore?

No screaming anymore, he injured himself by doing that so now he keeps it clean.

They played Unholy Confessions when I saw them this year.

Bat Country, Burn it Down, a guitar solo, a Pantera cover and I think Eternal Rest.

So 1 or 2 off of Waking the Fallen.

BUT that was a festival where they had limited time, I have no idea what they play if they're headlining.

[Prince Charming]

Guns n Roses > Avenged Sevenfold.
I'm going to say Joe is right, yet again.

Not that a7x is bad at all. lol. ^_^

That Pantera cover doesn't work. They didn't tune 1/4 down off DADGBE as Dime did. It sounds close but weird. (Tuning wise) It was good other than that though.

@ Mitch. Ask DV, he's seen them on a headlining tour.

How did he injure his vocal chords? (exactly)

[blue3]

My friend asked me if I wanted to see Avenged Sevenfold. I might.. the ticket's only like, 20 bucks.

[Prince Charming]

You should. I didn't go when they came to Portland, because it was with tons of screamo/hardcore/worthless bands.

[AA-12]

GnR kind of sucks. Same with Pantera.

[Prince Charming]

GnR kind of sucks. Same with Pantera.
GnR= good Pantera = earsore

[MRDuCran]

Dimebag tuned 1/4 tone down? What a fag.

I think their cover was very good but I don't like the song.

I Won't See You Tonight pt. 2 on the other hand...

[blue3]

GnR kind of sucks. Same with Pantera.You kind of suck.

[AA-12]

You kind of suck.
i keel u bitch >:-|
GnR= good Pantera = earsore
Pantera is at least listenable :p

[Prince Charming]

Dimebag tuned 1/4 tone down? What a fag.

I think their cover was very good but I don't like the song.

I Won't See You Tonight pt. 2 on the other hand...


Yup. That's why all these Pantera covers don't sound right, by any band. No matter what tuning Dime used, he tuned 1/4 step down off that tuning.

[blue3]

i h8 u whore. nice avatar, though.

[AA-12]

<3<3

[blue3]

that was an intense fight.

[Prince Charming]

ITT: We have epic battles

[MRDuCran]

Yup. That's why all these Pantera covers don't sound right, by any band. No matter what tuning Dime used, he tuned 1/4 step down off that tuning.

Or 'cause most bands play bad.

A 1/4 of a tone makes a difference imo. If it was a bend then yeah but not a whole song.

[Prince Charming]

Or 'cause most bands play bad.

A 1/4 of a tone makes a difference imo. If it was a bend then yeah but not a whole song.
Exactly. It's just enough to throw the sound off. "just that much'

[Drunken Vikings]

anyone here went for their gigs?

does matt still scream like when he does on WTF?

or do they not play songs from WTF anymore?
I've seen them twice.

Co-Headline w/ Coheed and Cambria
Beast and the Harlot
Chapter Four
Burn It Down
Seize the Day
Trashed and Scattered
Unholy Confessions
Blinded In Chains
Eternal Rest
Walk (just the solo)
Bat Country

Cities Of Evil Tour
Beast and the Harlot
Chapter Four
The Wicked End
M.I.A.
Strength Of the World
Eternal Rest
Bat Country
Unholy Confessions
Burn it Down
Second Heartbeat

[MRDuCran]

How well does Matt sing Chapter Four live?

[Drunken Vikings]

Pretty good actually. Minus the screaming of course. I'm thinking the clean singing is almost identical to that of him on the WTF tour, it sounds really good from what I can remember. But M.I.A. was the highlight. By far the best song on that setlist.

[DKMode]

Pretty good actually. Minus the screaming of course. I'm thinking the clean singing is almost identical to that of him on the WTF tour, it sounds really good from what I can remember. But M.I.A. was the highlight. By far the best song on that setlist.
also by far the best song on CoE

[loathed]

Wonder how their next album will sound like...:confused:

[AA-12]

Amazing, hopefully.

[Prince Charming]

also by far the best song on CoE

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that.

[MRDuCran]

I haven't really payed attention to MIA, I only listen to the first 4 tracks.

[Interviewer/surveyer]

Avenged Sevenfold was embarrassing at Ozzfest, the worst band there. Ya know the feeling when someone is playing live and they're SO bad that you feel sorry and embarrassed for them? Yeah, exactly.

[MRDuCran]

Avenged Sevenfold was embarrassing at Ozzfest, the worst band there. Ya know the feeling when someone is playing live and they're SO bad that you feel sorry and embarrassed for them? Yeah, exactly.

Was it bad sound?
Wrong notes?
Out of tune guitars/vocals?
Or you just don't like them in the first place?

[Nepenthe]

I haven't really payed attention to MIA, I only listen to the first 4 tracks.

You're missing out on the better half of the album.

[AA-12]

MIA sucks in my opinion :-

[MRDuCran]

You're missing out on the better half of the album.

I've been meaning to listen to the whole thing for ages but I get distracted tooo easily.

[Drunken Vikings]

MIA sucks in my opinion :-


:mad: I hate you now.

<3

[blue3]

well, who doesn't.

I got floor tickets to the Calgary show in September.

[AA-12]

>>>>>:-0

[DKMode]

why the **** wont they come to vancouver??? i just checked the dates of the canadian tour and i dont understand how they could leave vancouver off. its the second biggest city in canada behind toronto. only reason i can think of is there are way too many coffee shop hippies here and they think they wont sell out.

[Happy]

Or maybe they have a poor tour manager.

[blue3]

That sucks. You could always drive 89242 hours to go to Calgary or Edmonton.

[imnotamusician]

if m. shadows wasn't in the band, i guess i'll like it.

[MRDuCran]

What do you dislike, new or old vocal style?

[X3r6x]

if m. shadows wasn't in the band, i guess i'll like it.

I agree.

[imnotamusician]

What do you dislike, new or old vocal style?

well, both. :)

i like the guitar parts.

everyone in this area says bat country has the best solo ever, but i hate everything about it.

[loathed]

everyone in this area says bat country has the best solo ever, but i hate everything about it.

wonderful, awesome solo, yes...best solo? ummm...:rolleyes:

[MRDuCran]

well, both. :)

i like the guitar parts.

everyone in this area says bat country has the best solo ever, but i hate everything about it.

Fair enough. I'm pretty suprised I like them myself actually.

And do you mean people say BC has the best solo ever, period?

Or just Synyster's best solo?

Because if it was the last it'd be understandable for A7X fans but imo it doesn't even come close to the stuff I like.

[SimonCore]

Bat country solo isn't even close to amazing period.

[Prince Charming]

It's good, but not great.

[AA-12]

It's great. Fits with the song perfect, sounds good, and achieves it's point.

Anyway on the topic of Shadows, I wouldn't listen to the band if it wasn't for him.

[Prince Charming]

It's great. Fits with the song perfect, sounds good, and achieves it's point.

Anyway on the topic of Shadows, I wouldn't listen to the band if it wasn't for him.
Agreed. Shadows is great.

[MRDuCran]

Same here. It was his raspy voice on Chapter Four that gave me an instant chubby, also the into to I Won't See You Tonight part 2, I love rocking the fukk out to that.

[Prince Charming]

Yes they are great. I realized how great Blinded In Chains was last night. ^_^

[Drunken Viking]

Yeah, Blinded in Chains is awesome, it's my favorite from CoE. About the whole Bat Country solo thing, I don't get why everyone likes it so much, sure it fits with the song, but I find M.I.A.'s and The Wicked End's to blow it completely out of the water. Even Second Heartbeat tops it.

[Prince Charming]

Yeah, Blinded in Chains is awesome, it's my favorite from CoE. About the whole Bat Country solo thing, I don't get why everyone likes it so much, sure it fits with the song, but I find M.I.A.'s and The Wicked End's to blow it completely out of the water. Even Second Heartbeat tops it.
MIA is just amazing. It really shows their song writing talent, not just lead/harmony/solo/ftw. I'm not saying other songs are that, but it shows they're up there with teh good ones.

[Anthem]

My favorite solo from them is problably Strength of the World, not for how technically hard it is (its not) but i just like the rhythm guitar backing it and how its put together.

[Happy]

My favourite solo's probably MIA or Second Heartbeat.

mmm.

[Anthem]

So for the guitarist out there, how many of you sweep pick the harmony part in Bat Country and how many alt. pick it? (I alt. pick it cause I cant sweep) also in Beast and the Harlot where in that solo would you sweep because I can't find a tab where you would??

[pep]

I dont sweep pick anything in that solo. The only sweeps in that song are the leads in the chorus i believe.

Edit: In Beast and the Harlot, Bat Country i have no idea.

[Anthem]

Oh right the chorus, I forgot about that. I heard "sweeps in beast and the harlot" so I immediatly thought solo.

[Happy]

Bat Country, I sweep the harmony, right where the everything stops but the guitars.

[MRDuCran]

I probably would too if I bothered to learn it.

[Drunken Viking]

I alternate pick it, mainly because me and sweeping don't agree. That and I play Syns part and it's kinda a messed up sweep, at least the second half.
X2 X2
D|------------15-12-15------------|----------------------14------
G|--------14------------14---------|----13------13-13------13---
B|----15--------------------15-----|---------12-----------------12
E|13---------------------------13--|12-----------------------------



It's weird, I can do an A Minor sweep with little or no trouble, but I can't sweep Bat Country, or Beast and the Harlot.

[MRDuCran]

I alternate pick it, mainly because me and sweeping don't agree. That and I play Syns part and it's kinda a messed up sweep, at least the second half.
X2 X2
D|------------15-12-15------------|----------------------14------
G|--------14------------14---------|----13------13-13------13---
B|----15--------------------15-----|---------12-----------------12
E|13---------------------------13--|12-----------------------------



It's weird, I can do an A Minor sweep with little or no trouble, but I can't sweep Bat Country, or Beast and the Harlot.

You write the strings the wrong way round, and you also tabbed it harder than it could be.

Sweep Picking:

E-13-10-----------10--
B-------10------10----
G---------10--10------
D-----------12---------

String Skipping:

E-13-10---------------10--
B--------------------------
G-------14-10---10-14-----
D-------------12----------

Try those.

[Drunken Viking]

I'm having trouble editing my post, so I'll just put the correct version of the first half of the sweep that I messed up.

D|------------15-12-15------------
G|--------14------------14---------
B|----15--------------------15-----
E|13--------------------------------

I write it the cool way. :cool:

That's just the way that Syn plays it on the album, and my friend knows the harmony part, so it'll probably sound weird if I play it like that.

[MRDuCran]

The way I tabbed are the exact same notes, it won't make a different at all.

The way you tabbed make me feel retarded when I play it tbh, very unnecessary.

[Drunken Viking]

Haha, I just hate the way normal tabs are. I always play the power chords the wrong way because I'm an idiot. :lol: The way I do it is like a guitar where the high e is on the bottom.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah exactly, it's really confusing.

[Drunken Viking]

Pfft, I'm not gonna conform to your cookie cutter tab society.[/Punk]

[MRDuCran]

Errr wtf.

[Drunken Viking]

Nevermind.

[SimonCore]

Yeah so Sevenfold are coming to UK, going to see them at Cardiff it's their first time in Wales I think so it should be a good show. Will be my second time seeing them, they better do a balanced set!!!

[hollowpainting]

Does anyone know where their name comes from? It seems have trivial or possibley very deep?

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I saw Avenged in Sydney two nights ago, and it was meh in my opinion. Some of the songs took like me like 30 seconds to even realise what it was and the set list was pretty crappy.The best part was the way Shadows voice sounded without his screaming on the older songs.I was expecting him to sound bad but it ended up sounding good.

[Happy]

Does anyone know where their name comes from? It seems have trivial or possibley very deep?
According to wikipedia, it's something biblical
From the 'Curse of Caine' in genesis. As part of his curse, God states that should anyone harm Caine, he will be Avenged Sevenfold.

[Six Foot Revolver]

According to wikipedia, it's something biblical
I'm pretty sure I once read that in a review also.

[SimonCore]

How many times has this been said before? There name is from genesis where someone says to someone (cain and Abel methinks) "If you killing him, vengeance shall be cast upon you sevenfold". Something like that anyway.

[loathed]

How many times has this been said before? There name is from genesis where someone says to someone (cain and Abel methinks) "If you killing him, vengeance shall be cast upon you sevenfold". Something like that anyway.

Yes, thats true...

and i have something to add, they are not a christian band.

[Happy]

I think anyone who's given them a listen knows that.

[Happy]

/Just got tickets for the Brixton show :D

[deathscreamingsheep]

Also going to the Brixton show... *is happy*.

[SimonCore]

Going to the Cardiff one. I love the Students union it's so small your right by the band, and it's their first time in Wales^_^ Does anyone know who the supports are?? I hope there are none so they end up doing a 20 song set. IN WHICH THEY'LL HAVE TO PLAY SECOND HEARTBEAT!!!

[MudvayneFreak666]

How many times has this been said before? There name is from genesis where someone says to someone (cain and Abel methinks) "If you killing him, vengeance shall be cast upon you sevenfold". Something like that anyway.
Yes but only two of the guys are god believers.

[xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx]

i figured that it was from the bible when jesus said to forgive someone "not 7 times, but 7 times 7" and they're avenged sevenfold and uh you get it.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

I think it was actually banned from here sevenfold, or somethin like that.

[to_Burn_The_Eye]

Going to the Cardiff one. I love the Students union it's so small your right by the band, and it's their first time in Wales^_^ Does anyone know who the supports are?? I hope there are none so they end up doing a 20 song set. IN WHICH THEY'LL HAVE TO PLAY SECOND HEARTBEAT!!!
Think that is is bleeding through, heard they are getting a 45 minute slot and that a7x are getting 1 hour and 15 minutes.

[Happy]

Who is the support on this UK tour?

[SimonCore]

Yes but only two of the guys are god believers.

I know it's not M.Shadows. Who are the 2?

[GaryDaNoTrashCougar]

from spin.com

Well, where do you fall on the spectrum?
I'm personally not a religious person. [Drummer] The Rev is mildly religious, with all of his doubts and everything. But we're definitely not a religious band by any means. We all have certain beliefs and philosophies, but we don't want causes. We hate ****ing bands with causes. It doesn't ****ing help at all, and it just pisses people off.

We're here to let people think how they wanna think and not judge 'em for it, and we certainly don't want to be judged for how we think.

[to_Burn_The_Eye]

Who is the support on this UK tour?
Bleeding through.

[Irons_rock]

Going to see them at southampton, can't wait :)

[DKMode]

so anyone else find it a little ironic that these guys won the best new artist award at the VMAs last night even though theyve been around for 7 years?

[AA-12]

Haha, yeah.

[blue3]

I didn't know they won that, haha. I just saw Panic at the Disco playing live and had to change the channel right away.

[Irons_rock]

Everyone seems to consider a7x a new band now for some reason, think it since they released city of evil.

[deathscreamingsheep]

In MTV new artists are new when they've had a recent major mainstream hit so it's really not that much of an issue. Also, is it just me or was Zacky V crying when he got the award?

LOL at the stupid presenter who couldn't pronounce the band's name.

[DKMode]

in all fairness, she was only a little girl....still a stupid little girl though. i dont think zacky was crying, however it did seem like the rev was a little sedated on something, i guess he always seems like that though. he made me laugh though with his, "Id like to thank god, whichever god i believe in, not really sure yet which one it is" speach. i was very surprised that they won that though considering they were up against gay **** like rihanna and angels and airwaves.

[Happy]

anywhere where I can see this?

[Txus]

There it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPBma1x8Z98

[MusicIsLove]

I don't listen to City of Evil, but I still love the guys. Definitely my favorite band because that's how amazing Sounding the Seventh Trumpet and Waking the Fallen were.

[DKMode]

i only bought waking the fallen like 2 days ago and now i know why everyone loves it so much. i still think i like city of evil more because it is more melodic but waking the fallen is amazing too. im in shock because for the last 6 months ive had like a demo version of second heartbeat on my computer, and in my car this morning i was listening to the cd and this completely different version was on the CD. i never understood why everyone raved about it so much but after hearing the album version i was completely blown away.

[blue3]

I probably listen to City of evil most. I'm seeing them tonight.

[Insipid2000]

City of Evil has some great songs like: Beast and the Harlot, Bat Country, Sidewinder, Wicked End, SOTW, M.I.A, but it also has some song that I really dislike and used to like, Burn It Down, Trashed and Scattered, Seize the Day.

[blue3]

Wow, the ones you 'dislike' are my favorites. Avenged Sevenfold was good live. They played Walk! 3 Inches of Blood, Confession and Protest the Hero were the opening bands. Cam Pipes was the guy that was selling his bands merchandise which was weird. He signed my shirt and ticket.

[Perhaps Locusts]

In MTV new artists are new when they've had a recent major mainstream hit so it's really not that much of an issue. Also, is it just me or was Zacky V crying when he got the award?

LOL at the stupid presenter who couldn't pronounce the band's name.
I'm sorry, but failure to pronounce such basic words is pathetic.

[Insipid2000]

Wow, the ones you 'dislike' are my favorites. Avenged Sevenfold was good live. They played Walk! 3 Inches of Blood, Confession and Protest the Hero were the opening bands. Cam Pipes was the guy that was selling his bands merchandise which was weird. He signed my shirt and ticket.

Yes well I just think the songs that I dislike a bit to chessy for my tastes.

[loathed]

especially seize the day. i like the odd ballads here and there...but the vocals kinda kills it for me

[Insipid2000]

Yeah and Its played so much on TV and mtv which also kills it.

[Perhaps Locusts]

Yes well I just think the songs that I dislike a bit to chessy for my tastes.
o rly? Your tastes are just that special.

[loathed]

Yeah and Its played so much on TV and mtv which also kills it.

maybe, but i dont see why metal shouldnt be on TV or MTV in general. im not really a fan of the "metal on mtv = sellout" thing. i dont see anything wrong.

on another note, i wouldnt mind if seize the day was on mtv with much better vocals...

metal to the masses...\m/

[Happy]

I've never seen Seize the Day on TV :)

[MeaninglessPhoto]

STD is a good song and I like the video a little.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Sometimes I think not having Sky or anything and as such not having access to any music channel is actually a good thing because overplayed songs aren't actually overplayed for me so I can still appreciate them.

[blue3]

I've never seen Seize the Day on TV :)I haven't either. Probably cause I don't watch much TV anymore.

[guitarizzle]

Seize the day sounds so much better live.

Syn changed the solo, it sounds much more GN'R-ish.
check it out:

SeizeTheDay: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=87RCS24R

Bat Country: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9HMZKBX7

They were filmed in New York, I believe.

Enjoy!

[i am the robots]

Much more GN'R-ish is a good thing? Damn it, what is this world coming to?

[Insipid2000]

GnR suck.

[loathed]

GnR suck.

You're an idiot

[DKMode]

Yeah and Its played so much on TV and mtv which also kills it.
Ive never seen seize the day or beast and the harlot on TV, and i think i only saw bat country once. ive only ever heard bat country on the radio once or twice too. they really dont get too much airplay in vancouver. i guess muchmusic (canadas MTV) is more into gay **** though so no good songs are ever played.

[loathed]

Ive never seen seize the day or beast and the harlot on TV, and i think i only saw bat country once. ive only ever heard bat country on the radio once or twice too. they really dont get too much airplay in vancouver. i guess muchmusic (canadas MTV) is more into gay **** though so no good songs are ever played.

That's weird...bat country was so overplayed on MTV, TRL etc...it got to number 1 on TRL and stayed there for weeeeeks. but anyway, i dont know much about vancouver, so i cant say.

[Happy]

They just cancelled all their UK dates apart from the Astoria one, which I'm going to :)

15 days :o

[MRDuCran]

I should have bought tickets for that but I wasn't really hyped to go.

[deathscreamingsheep]

They just cancelled all their UK dates apart from the Astoria one, which I'm going to :)

15 days :o

Isn't it in Brixton Academy?

[Happy]

Yeah I just got told that.

I'm very confused about it, my friend tells me the Brixton tickets will be fine for the Astoria and I'm a little bit :wtf: over it all.

[deathscreamingsheep]

They haven't put anything up on their website yet. I'll check when I can.

Still, I'm quite annoyed (even though I am going to the London show). This is the second time they've done this. I can understand that they want to press on with their new album, but really this is the second time in a year UK fans have been left wanting.

[loathed]

im sure they will go to the UK one day...just need time, although i do understand, time can be frustrating...

[Happy]

I swear they played earlier this year, one of my friends went.
and I don't mean download.

[deathscreamingsheep]

They did do a tour earlier this year. They were also meant to be touring the UK as the first place they visited directly after City of Evil was released, then they cancelled the entire tour except for a single date in the London Astoria: now however small they obviously think Britain is, we can't all get to London. Also, many people had already bought tickets for other venus and they were not refunded.

They then did a tour in the UK later on, although I should add that during their full tour their set was ridiculously short (under an hour).

Now they're doing again exactly what they did the first time.

[Happy]

I hope the set's longer than an hour :(