Avenged Sevenfold

[TurnTheOtherWay]

I hate Seize the Day with a burning passion. Worst A7X song in my opinion. It's catchy, but a bad catchy.

[Drunken Viking]

The only unbearable thing about STST is Shadow's harsh vocals, they really get on my nerves.

[DKMode]

i wouldnt mind if they re recorded STST, however if i had to choose between that and a new kick *** CD, i would have to go with the new stuff. cant wait for their follow up to CoE!!!

[MRDuCran]

The only song I like off StST is Warmness on the Soul. I love singing along to that.

[Shadius]

STST lacks recording quality, but you can get over that.

Personally, I think the vocals are the only thing lacking on that album, worst A7X vocals to date. No point in rerecording it though. Like I keep saying, a live album would satisfy anyone who wants to hear some old songs in the new style. Pick a couple from STST, a few from WTF and the majority from COE.

[SimonCore]

The only way the vocals could be re-recorded and it would own, was if Shadows recorded the vocals again when he was WTF standard.

[i am the robots]

The only unbearable thing about STST is Shadow's harsh vocals, they really get on my nerves.

I think the screaming sounds fine on STST, the clean singing kinda sucks though.

[deathscreamingsheep]

What grates me about the STST vocals is the pronounciation.

"Yourr waarghrun aarghweeia"

If I didn't have the lyric booklet I wouldn't have a clue what was going on.

[Charizard]

It just sounds like he starts every word with 'r'

Rrrack rain rcrrowwds!

[SimonCore]

Yeah. "Rrrarknees rrroats rruss!!!". Lolz

[DKMode]

STST lacks recording quality, but you can get over that.

Personally, I think the vocals are the only thing lacking on that album, worst A7X vocals to date. No point in rerecording it though. Like I keep saying, a live album would satisfy anyone who wants to hear some old songs in the new style. Pick a couple from STST, a few from WTF and the majority from COE.
ya a live album would be awesome. i really like the old songs with new vocals. i know people are gonna hate me, but i definitely like them more than the originals.

[TurnTheOtherWay]

Yeah, that was my one complaint about STST. His scream is for the most part incomprehensible. I think it's the worst on Breaking Their Hold. Thank god for lyric booklets...

But it's still 1,000 times better than a re-recording. God, that would piss me off...

[Drunken Viking]

He's capable of doing the WTF scream, just listen to Blinded in Chains or Trashed and Scattered. It's just a matter of if he would do it.

[X3r6x]

Hi, I'm *NEW* to this forum but I like A7X, it's quite a hardcore metal band. Though I don't really like Beast And The Harlot, I prefer Sidewinder and And All Things Will End... ...

Although in the Beast And The Harlot video, drummer The Reverend did some cool drum moves, eh?

[X3r6x]

Hi TurnTheOtherWay, I agree with you that although my friends and I like the same music genres, we don't seem to be 'tight' enough and most aren't really serious about the band I'm in. Although, we already signed up with this 'who-knows-****' people who say they would advertise our band online, why don't we take our bands seriously? This is what causes many bands to disband. We barely practice together, actually nearly never because we all are so busy with school's bull**** and when we're free, we can't always get together and even if we meet up, we usually end up trying to 'kill' each other.

[SimonCore]

^^No he he's only aloowed to sing for a certain amount of time for a day, no way could he add screaming to that. He's voice couldn't take it.

[\m/-CHeV-\m/]

I read he's capable of screaming again, but just wouldn't take the risk to fukk up his thoat once more... Can't he just learn to scream without fukkin up his throat.. although he can't, I really miss the screaming, especialy in unholy confessions (that one i meant live)

[deathscreamingsheep]

I read he's capable of screaming again, but just wouldn't take the risk to fukk up his thoat once more... Can't he just learn to scream without fukkin up his throat.. although he can't, I really miss the screaming, especialy in unholy confessions (that one i meant live)

Unholy Confessions ain't too bad without screaming, though the original is better. The worst one I thought was second heartbeat.

[SimonCore]

Second heartbeat is appalling without screaming. And he usually actually screams in that song at the moment when you don't want to hear him screaming! during the solo

[Tillius]

/imagines Second Heartbeat without screaming
:eek:

OH MY GOD!!!

[guitarizzle]

Synyster Gates playing 'Beast and the Harlot':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_AJwAAp81U

[nowitzki]

Hmm, I personally think Second Heartbeat is the song that works best without screams. Obviously its better with the screams, but its still an amazing song without.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I think Chapter Four.

[SimonCore]

I think Eternal rest. But that's because 'The Rev' does the screaming over the clean vocals.

[Drunken Viking]

For like one line.


You guys Shadows can scream even after his surgery. He had it done a few summers ago, and he screamed the entire '04 Warped Tour after the sugery. He doesn't want to scream, the entire band made a choice that they don't want screaming as a part of their sound. It's because he can't, it's because he doesn't want to.

[i am the robots]

qft

I read he's capable of screaming again, but just wouldn't take the risk to fukk up his thoat once more... Can't he just learn to scream without fukkin up his throat.. although he can't, I really miss the screaming, especialy in unholy confessions (that one i meant live)

It's most likely all psychological that he fears if he screams again, even with proper training that he'll hurt his voice again.

Example, I was in a band last year, and I didn't really know how to scream all that correctly, but I could get it high and raspy... kinda Caliban-ish... it wasn't good for me at all though, and I blew my voice out a couple of times (no horrible perminant damage.... anyhow I decided to practice more and learn proper technique, and now I'm fine when I scream, and I'm in a new band (with mostly the same members... no bass anymore), but a lot of the time I kinda trick myself into fearing that I hurt myself and I constantly ask my bandmates if my voice sounds good or not, whether or not it's hoarse, etc.

[Drunken Viking]

If it was psychological he wouldn't have screamed on Warped Tour immediately following the surgery.

[DKMode]

who cares if he can or cant scream anymore. the band doesnt want screaming anymore so its not gonna happen. i think thats the best decision they ever made.

[MRDuCran]

Anyone going to see their "warm up" gig with GnR in London soon??

[deathscreamingsheep]

Yeah, my mate can get tickets from work.

[MRDuCran]

You seeing them at Download aswell?

[SimonCore]

Which venue at London is it?

[deathscreamingsheep]

Hammersmith Apollo. I'm not going Download, I can't afford tickets, which sucks because there's a lot of good bands this year like Tool who I've never seen and really want to and other great bands like Dragonforce who are just awesome live.

[Happy]

Hmm that sounds good. I may got to it.

[DKMode]

so i just found out now that avenged sevenfold were the mystery band on ozzfest's main stage. when did this happen and why have i never heard of it before now?!! anyone going?

[Drunken Viking]

OZZfest has about three good bands this year, not worth the ticket price.

[DKMode]

its only 70-140$ for a full day of music. thats not that much.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Maybe not for you.

[MRDuCran]

Download Festival is £140 for 3 days of music, and much better bands!

Which INCLUDES Avenged Sevenfold.

[SimonCore]

Hmm i wonder what they'll play at Donnington. 'twill be interesting to find out.

[MRDuCran]

I'm guessing they'll definately play Bat Country, which is good.
Maybe Unholy Confessions, Second Heartbeat, Chapter Four and some new stuff?? I'm not familiar with their new stuff yet so I'll just have to watch and learn.

[Drunken Viking]

I'm guessing something like

Bat Country
Unholy Confessionns
Beast and the Harlot
Burn It Down
Chapter Four
Trashed and Scattered
Strength of the World
Second Heartbeat
To End Rapture
Blinded In Chains
Eternal Rest

[MRDuCran]

I'm guessing something like

Bat Country
Unholy Confessionns
Beast and the Harlot
Burn It Down
Chapter Four
Trashed and Scattered
Strength of the World
Second Heartbeat
To End Rapture
Blinded In Chains


Aren't 6/7 of those from City of Evil?

[i am the robots]

No, 6/10 are from City of Evil.

[Drunken Viking]

Honestly when I last saw them the only songs from WTF were Unholy Confessions, Chpater Four, and Eternal Rest. I should've had Eternal Rest on there, but I forgot it.

[MRDuCran]

No, 6/10 are from City of Evil.

Eh, looks like I have some listening to do.

[i am the robots]

Probably.

[Koto]

Great music, but really loud- The CD versions are a bit too much so for me personally

[Drunken Viking]

You could just turn it down. :rolleyes:

[guitarizzle]

Great music, but really loud- The CD versions are a bit too much so for me personally

I don't get it. What do you mean?

[deathscreamingsheep]

Honestly when I last saw them the only songs from WTF were Unholy Confessions, Chpater Four, and Eternal Rest. I should've had Eternal Rest on there, but I forgot it.

They didn't play Eternal Rest at the last gig I wen to which annoyed the hell out of me, or Second Heartbeat for that matter :angry:

But then they had also cut their set hideously short.

[Happy]

Are the A7X/GnR tickets on sale yet?

[i am the robots]

Great music, but really loud- The CD versions are a bit too much so for me personally

Yet you can listen to Megadeth? Eh, much better in any case, but I just don't get how they could be, 'too much.'

[Drunken Viking]

They didn't play Eternal Rest at the last gig I wen to which annoyed the hell out of me, or Second Heartbeat for that matter :angry:

But then they had also cut their set hideously short.
Why?

[deathscreamingsheep]

Because they just played a short set. No real reason.

It just jarred me because the gig I'd been to before (their one off one) had had all the songs they played minus IWSYT1 but with second heartbeat, eternal rest and wicked end as well.

[SimonCore]

God i wish i went to that Astoria show.

[MRDuCran]

I'd probably go to the one that's coming up if they weren't at Download. I'd rather see them there since it's much smaller and you can actually see them. The Download main stage is ****, there's a **** off barrier between the front gate and a stage that's a million miles above sea level.

The second stage is better if you want to get close.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I swear you can land a ****ing aeroplane in the barrier between the main stage and the crowd at Donnington. How on earth do bands feel that they're interacting with the crowd?

[MRDuCran]

Exactly, it sucks. Especially if you watch a video on youtube of Download, you can see from above how wide it is.

[Happy]

I've seen festivals with bigger spaces.

Plus that barriers only there because of the fans that got crushed when GnR last played.

[MRDuCran]

I fail to understand how a huge gap would make a difference. People still go fukking crazy when people play, especially the thrashier of bands, i.e Slayer, Dragonforce, Metallica's fast ones. If someone falls and something bad happens, it's not down to the size of the gap...unless there's an exact reason that WAS because of the gap which I'm not aware of...?

[Happy]

The gap's there so that if anyone's getting crushed at the front, they can be pulled out by the guys up front amongst other reasons.

Maybe it shouldn't be so huge but it's still needed.

[SimonCore]

I'm guessing something like

Bat Country
Unholy Confessionns
Beast and the Harlot
Burn It Down
Chapter Four
Trashed and Scattered
Strength of the World
Second Heartbeat
To End Rapture
Blinded In Chains
Eternal Rest

It won't be that long. They'll have about 40minutes on stage. So no Strength of the world and blinded in chains and to end the rapture.

[MRDuCran]

The gap's there so that if anyone's getting crushed at the front, they can be pulled out by the guys up front amongst other reasons.

Maybe it shouldn't be so huge but it's still needed.

Well that makes sense. And I think anyone would still feel that it's still wayyy too big even for that purpose.

[Tillius]

Well, the girl I'm trying to get with is pretty much perfect, except for the fact that she doesn't like A7X. However, I burned her the CDs today and I think that that's going to change, making her perfect.:cool::)

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Why is this band so Sh1tty? Please give me a reply ASAP.

[Nazi Bastard]

They aren't.

[guitarizzle]

Why is this band so Sh1tty? Please give me a reply ASAP.

'Cuz they don't have the skills that you have.

:thumb:

[A7X_Theater_88]

because they dont scream their ****ing heads off the whole time like lamb of god do.
lol jks

[Happy]

LOG vs A7X arguements are ghey.

I don't think we need another one.

[SimonCore]

^Not only are they go but pointless, as the bands are so so different.

[Drunken Viking]

He didn't even try to bring up LoG. It's his opinion whether he thinks A7X is good or not, right now I don't respect that opinion, but it's not wrong or anything.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

'Cuz they don't have the skills that you have.

:thumb:

Lol, that is 100% correct. Just for the record I'm just fuking with you guys. I'm not a fan of Avenged Sevenfold, but they aren't sh1tty.

And no of course I wasn't even trying to argue who is better between LOG and A7x, there is one short and simple answer to that...

[deathscreamingsheep]

A7X are better.

OMGZ trolling argument.

[MRDuCran]

Lol, that is 100% correct. Just for the record I'm just fuking with you guys. I'm not a fan of Avenged Sevenfold, but they aren't sh1tty.

And no of course I wasn't even trying to argue who is better between LOG and A7x, there is one short and simple answer to that...

I think we could all respect you more if you stayed out of the threads of bands you didn't like. I don't like Incubus but I don't go in and rant about how much better Chapter Four is that their whole lives.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

I was just having some fun, so will you guys just calm the fuk down. It's fun to watch what all u kids come up with for replies to my posts.

P.S. I don't care who I get respect from on a damn forum from a bunch of net bugs. I have to worry about respect from people that will actually help me improve myself.

[MRDuCran]

I didn't say you cared, but at least then we could all have a healthy disscussion and not massive arguements beause certain people misunderstand you, it happens so I tend to try and avoid it.

[Drunken Viking]

I was just having some fun, so will you guys just calm the fuk down. It's fun to watch what all u kids come up with for replies to my posts.

P.S. I don't care who I get respect from on a damn forum from a bunch of net bugs. I have to worry about respect from people that will actually help me improve myself.
If you don't really care about us, then why did you tell us you were just kidding around, it doesn't seem like a big deal for people you don't care about.

[FolkVikingFan]

whats wrong with log drummer. He's in my classes. Some of them anyways.

[Drunken Viking]

Nothing is wrong with him...

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

whats wrong with log drummer. He's in my classes. Some of them anyways.

...In your classes....what?

Never said I don't care about you guys, just don't care what you guys think about me or whether or not I get respect from you.

[DKMode]

on another note, noone has posted in like 3 days so...........................


just discovered betrayed is about dimebag darrell. most people probably already knew this but i sure didnt. thats kinda cool!

[Drunken Viking]

It said so in the booklet.


Anyone else really been getting into Trashed and Scattered? Ever since I've been trying to learn it it's sounded almost better.

[guitarizzle]

A7X covering Pantera's "Walk":

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GR8GF71Y

[SimonCore]

I dunno why but Trashed and scattered just had immediate respect from all A7X fans, I think it's because it sounds like it could be on 'Waking the Fallen'.

[Six Foot Revolver]

A7X covering Pantera's "Walk":

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GR8GF71Y
/Seen them play it live

Bwa ha ha >_>.

[DFelon204409]

Avenged Sevenfold isn't very good.

1234

[guitarizzle]

/Seen them play it live

Bwa ha ha >_>.

Me too. But thats the studio version.

[nowitzki]

Just listening to it on the Kerrang cover CD. Good cover, that hi-hat is annoying though.

[Drunken Viking]

I like his vocals on Walk, sounded a lot closer to Phil's then I would've thought.

Did I tell you guys I might be seeing A7X again?

[nowitzki]

Where at?
I'm seeing them on the 10th at Download.

[Drunken Viking]

I'm not sure, my brother told me that them and Disturbed and Atreyu were coming.

[SimonCore]

Oh it'll be at Ozzfest then.

[Drunken Viking]

No, OZZfest isn't coming to CO. I'm thinking that it's just those bands doing a show during the tour, just not under the OZZfest banner. Arch Enemy and a few bands did that last year.

[AA-12]

I dunno why but Trashed and scattered just had immediate respect from all A7X fans, I think it's because it sounds like it could be on 'Waking the Fallen'.
What? No it doesn't. It's way different from WTF.

[DKMode]

Me too. But thats the studio version.
thats incredible! when did they record that? I always getting very excited hearing new stuff from them even if it is another bands song.

[nowitzki]

It was recorded for Kerrang magazine, its on the cover CD with the latest issue.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I didn't like it very much. They didn't sound like they really put much effort into it.

[Arucard]

1234

Idiot mods who have a forum devoted to themselves so that they can jerk of their ego's aren't very good.

[Concubine]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Tillius]

/Seen them play it live

Bwa ha ha >_>.
Same here.

[Tillius]

So, anybody hear about Sevenfold being added to the list of bands at Ozzfest this year?
I wanted to go before, but now it's a definite.

[Drunken Viking]

Yeah, weren't they the mystery band?

[TEST]

What? No it doesn't. It's way different from WTF.


Josh, don't even answer him. Simoncore is one of the most ignorant posters.

[Drunken Viking]

Are you two related by chance?

[TEST]

Are you two related by chance?
Says the jew with a nig for an avatar.
STFU

[Drunken Viking]

Says the jew with a nig for an avatar.
STFU
I'm quoting you just so you can't delete the post. :)

[TEST]

Says the jew with a nig for an avatar.
STFU
I'll quote myself for truth, since I don't care if you quote this 1 billion times. :thumb:


/end flame


a7x, I havn't listened enough lately. I'm still loving MIA

[Drunken Viking]

Good, this way you won't "have someone deleting your posts" like last time.

[TEST]

Good, this way you won't "have someone deleting your posts" like last time.
Dude. Move on. I don't want to start a flame fest. k?

Back on subject,

Fav intro on CoE,

I have to say Burn It Down or Beast And The Harlot

[Drunken Viking]

The intro to The Wicked End owns, the bass playing is kick ***.

[TEST]

The intro to The Wicked End owns, the bass playing is kick ***.
I love that song, yet always forget it. lol.

Strength Of The World builds beautifully. Why do people hate the chorus?
I actually like his vocals on it

[Drunken Viking]

I'm trying to learn the chorus for SotW, but Synyster and Zacky's rhythm is so ****ed up that I can barely read it and remember it.

[TEST]

I'm trying to learn the chorus for SotW, but Synyster and Zacky's rhythm is so ****ed up that I can barely read it and remember it.
What do you mean?

[Drunken Viking]

The rhythm of it, like for example the intro to that song on the acoustic guitar is easy to read, the rhythm is all quarter notes. The rhythm in the chorus for it is insane though, its got triplets in it, it's not all picked in the same rhythm either, and with the ties in the mix it's hard as hell to read. I bet you didn't think that when Shadows is yelling "Strength of the World" That was a triplet a and quarter note.

[TEST]

The rhythm of it, like for example the intro to that song on the acoustic guitar is easy to read, the rhythm is all quarter notes. The rhythm in the chorus for it is insane though, its got triplets in it, it's not all picked in the same rhythm either, and with the ties in the mix it's hard as hell to read. I bet you didn't think that when Shadows is yelling "Strength of the World" That was a triplet a and quarter note.
If you can live with not playing it perfect. Find which has the most and alter the rest to fit.

[Drunken Viking]

I can live it with it not being perfect, believe me :p , but my guitar teacher really wants me to get better at doing/reading rhythms so he wants me to be able to nail everything.

[TEST]

I can live it with it not being perfect, believe me :p , but my guitar teacher really wants me to get better at doing/reading rhythms so he wants me to be able to nail everything.
k. Well. Maybe work on getting it perfect, but play it so it sounds great, but isn't too hard?

Sometimes I'll change a part of a song. If anything, the ability to adapt & customize a song is a good thing.

[Drunken Viking]

I'll change some songs parts, like in Bodom After Midnight the fills at the end of the verse it goes across the neck starting with 15; 14; 12; then it switchs to the B string and goes 13, I just got 15; 14; 12; 8 all on the E string, it's the same note but it's easier and it goes better with the song.

[TEST]

I'll change some songs parts, like in Bodom After Midnight the fills at the end of the verse it goes across the neck starting with 15; 14; 12; then it switchs to the B string and goes 13, I just got 15; 14; 12; 8 all on the E string, it's the same note but it's easier and it goes better with the song.

b string? :confused:

Bodom After Midnight is DGCFAD

[Drunken Viking]

I just do standard tunning for basically everything, so it would be A string then I guess, and the E string would be D.

[TEST]

I just do standard tunning for basically everything, so it would be A string then I guess, and the E string would be D.
It's a step down.

There's a rather large difference in sound. I'd strongly reccomend tuning down the whole step.

It'll sound MUCH better.

[Drunken Viking]

Much easier said than done, especially with a Floyd Rose.

[TEST]

Much easier said than done, especially with a Floyd Rose.
'tis why I got rid of my Jackson that had a FR.

It's doable (very) (not HARD). Do you not have a tuner? If you don't, you can tune off the respective note.
I use GP (guitar-to-laptop) to tune. It's lightning quick, plus I can change between tunings faster than my chromatic tuner.

[Drunken Viking]

I have a tunner, it's more a lazyness factor then anything. Any who I'm off to bed, Gnight MX.

[deathscreamingsheep]

I was listening to STST the other day. It was good ****. Some bloke put it on at a party for some reason which while it was a bit rubbish because it's not really party music I enjoyed listening to it.

[MRDuCran]

Oh wow, I just realised I have all their albums on my computer. I got them all before but they were in a weird format, now I've just found them all in mp3. Woo.

[AA-12]

They are one of the few bands that I buy all my albums of instead of download; I just noticed this. I did DL STST and then delete it though.

[DKMode]

I was listening to STST the other day. It was good ****. Some bloke put it on at a party for some reason which while it was a bit rubbish because it's not really party music I enjoyed listening to it.
heavy metal at parties is rad. we were at a party a couple weekends ago and a friend of mine had the idea of putting on trivium. the girls hated it but i ****ed up my neck for a week headbanging. quite irrelevant to an A7X thread but just thought id let you know metal is played at parties sometimes.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Meh. I prefer good ol' drum and bass or something dancable for parties, heavy metal is what I put on in the car the morning after with all the hung over people.

[i am the robots]

Me and my friends normally listen to metal or classical music when we party :lol:.

EDIT: usually the neo-classical power metal or avant garde stuff though.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Maybe it's just because the majority of my friends aren't into metal then.

[Happy]

Me and my friends normally listen to metal or classical music when we party :lol:.

EDIT: usually the neo-classical power metal or avant garde stuff though.
That would make for some great party music.

Usually when I go to parties it's something like FOB. Doesn't bother me all too much as long as it's bakground.

[MRDuCran]

They are one of the few bands that I buy all my albums of instead of download; I just noticed this. I did DL STST and then delete it though.

Yeah same. I'm going to buy Waking the Fallen and maybe City of Evil, not a fan of StST though.

[DKMode]

That would make for some great party music.

Usually when I go to parties it's something like FOB. Doesn't bother me all too much as long as it's bakground.
Fall out boy are the gayest band to ever live.............ever. there is no situation where listening to their music is acceptable. they should all be beaten severely for hurting my ears with their winy bull**** "music". **** them. ive noticed at every party ive been at lately, stadium arcadium and the new pearl jam cd have been played at least once. RHCP is kill party music.

[Shadius]

Party music needs a groove, IMO, most metal is rubbish for that.

[Drunken Viking]

Unless you count Groove Metal. :rolleyes:

[deathscreamingsheep]

Fall out boy are the gayest band to ever live.............ever

Fallout Boy are fun.

So yeah, A7X and stuff.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah A7x, I'm seeing them on Saturday!

[Arucard]

Me and my friends normally listen to metal or classical music when we party :lol:.

EDIT: usually the neo-classical power metal or avant garde stuff though.

Best party music is crunk.

Yup.

[guitarizzle]

There's nothing like listening to "Domination" by Pantera at a party. That breakdown gets everyone crazy

[i am the robots]

That would make for some great party music.

Usually when I go to parties it's something like FOB. Doesn't bother me all too much as long as it's bakground.

Yeah dude... considering most of my friends are into metal too... it's an epic way to be, :lol:.

Last night for example... driving around blasting In Flames and egging people's houses who don't pay for pizza deliveries at my one friend's work and then going home and drinking :lol:.

[AA-12]

I listen to Infected Mushroom while partying (getting high alone :()

[TEST]

I listen to Infected Mushroom while partying (getting high alone :()
Time go cry emo.



haha. All <3 for you Josh.

a7x is good in spurts.

[i am the robots]

I listen to Infected Mushroom while partying (getting high alone :()

:lol:

that's kinda hawt imo

[AA-12]

:-0

[SimonCore]

Best party background music is something like Fall out boy or grooving metal like Down or Pantera ^_^

So does anyone know what their set was at Download?

[deathscreamingsheep]

I saw a pic from Download with Shadows wearing an England football top.

Yep- this post has changed your life.

[Happy]

Something to help them win over the naysayers :p

A7X were at the metal hammer awards Monday night, Syn won Dimebag's shred award thingy (even though he doesn't shred) and he came onstage with no hat on or anything which I thought was kind of strange.

But then again, he did look wasted.

[MRDuCran]

So does anyone know what their set was at Download?

I can't remember everything, and this isn't the right order, but they definately played:

Unholy Confessions (first)
Beast and the Harlot (second)
Burn it Down (third)
Synester Gates guitar solo
Eternal Rest
Bat Country (last)

I put in brackets what I *think* was the order.

[Drunken Viking]

Damn, what a short *** set. How long did the have?

[loathed]

Damn, what a short *** set. How long did the have?

VERY

[Drunken Viking]

Anyone wanna do a cover of an Avenged song? Maybe something simple like Chapter Four or something, I could do either one half the guitar or the bass.

[MRDuCran]

I will if you want, I've already covered it so I know most of it.

[Drunken Viking]

We don't have to Chapter Four, we could do something off CoE. I know Bat Country and Beast and the Harlot the lead guitar for both. Just wondering, how do you get the drums, do you program them? Or what?

[MRDuCran]

Well Chapter Four, Bat Country and Beast and the Harlot are all really cool so if I did get involved, I wouldn't mind doing either of them.

I know parts of the rhythm for the last 2, and most of everything for Cpta4.

I program my drums into Beatcraft but if there's a drummer here, they might want to play them instead. That's what they did with the Nevermore cover. For my last version of Chapter Four, I played over a drum and bass backing track though.

[Britton]

I can play a ton of their songs. In the past nothing has ever worked with covers (at least the ones I've been involved with) but if ya'll do anything from WTF let me know


brittonmadcap@yahoo.com

^I do that cause' I am hardly ever on here

[MRDuCran]

Well we could do Chapter Four, I could do rhythm left, Britton could do rhythm right and DV could do bass. Now we want a drummer and singer.

Or am I just trying to much to take control...?

[deathscreamingsheep]

My mic sucks at the moment but if I can get it fixed in time I'd do some singing. Though I'm a pretty bad screamer so I'd be better off with the "Give me your hand" bit and clean stuff, I can do quite a good rasp-esque voice for City of Evil stuff too.

[MRDuCran]

I was really suprised to see Matt screaming at Download!

I don't know if ut's the same technique he used back in the WtF days but it defenately wasn't a clean voice. I think it was more of a distorted shout because of how much air he put through, it kicked fukking ***. Easily one of the best bands there for me.

[TEST]

Well we could do Chapter Four, I could do rhythm left, Britton could do rhythm right and DV could do bass. Now we want a drummer and singer.

Or am I just trying to much to take control...?
I'd be open to vox if I can use my bros mic.

Mitch = killer with Chapter Four

I was going to record part of the male vox on Nightwishs Wish I had an angel so I can hear it back and gauge.
My growls = good
Clear= depending on the range.

[MRDuCran]

You should definately sing over my Chapter Four thing as a guide or something.

The range is pretty large in that song though I believe, so anyone might have a hard time hitting everything perfectly.

[i am the robots]

Hehe... speaking of vocals.

My clean voice is the low-mid range... like Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth... though not as good... I can sing in that style (not as well) as well as oldschool A7X style.

My harsh vocals are kinda Oldschool Underoath/The Black Dahlia Murder/Through The Eyes Of The Dead style...

A poorly recorded example:
http://www.myspace.com/burnthegardengreen

[TEST]

You should definately sing over my Chapter Four thing as a guide or something.

The range is pretty large in that song though I believe, so anyone might have a hard time hitting everything perfectly.


Mmmkay. I'll have to download and then record over it.
You really have to hear back what you're playing/singing to have a decent opinion on it. Since you have the song in your head during it, it's hard to be fair.

[Drunken Viking]

So is Dylan or Eleventeen doing the vox?

[TEST]

So is Dylan or Eleventeen doing the vox?


Well. I'm singing through it a few times, it's not going as well as I'd hoped on the clears.

This part,


Where has he gone? What have you done?
A voice commands from high above this earth.
From the soil I hear his blood cry out to me
Murder, liar, vengeance, deceit.


I can nail that anyday.

[Drunken Viking]

Ok, just upload your copy of it through YSI into thread, or if you decide to unblock me from aim you can send it.

[TEST]

Ok, just upload your copy of it through YSI into thread, or if you decide to unblock me from aim you can send it.


oh. I have a new sn. That's why I'm not on. :p

[Drunken Viking]

:lol: I just figured it was A Charming Ban.

[TEST]

:lol: I just figured it was A Charming Ban.
The sn?. Nah. The sn is DreamScapeArson.

I hate to say it. I don't think I can hit this. It's going to take a while (weeks I figure). It doesn't fit my voice well. I'll upload a cut of the clears and screams. Then you guys can say, "good" or gtfo my island.

[MRDuCran]

Mmmkay. I'll have to download and then record over it.
You really have to hear back what you're playing/singing to have a decent opinion on it. Since you have the song in your head during it, it's hard to be fair.

Here, use this, it's my newest one *without* skipping, *and* bass!!!

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DBA5BE316E10DB30

Ofck, I read the last post.

[TEST]

Here, use this, it's my newest one *without* skipping, *and* bass!!!

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DBA5BE316E10DB30

Ofck, I read the last post.
I'll try. Beast And The harlot is alot easier vocally. I havn't tried Bat Country yet though, I will in a few.

His voice is sooooo different than mine.

Deep death growls, like Nile or Behemoth, That's where my suit lies in growls/screams

Clear. It really depends. I can't get that high up clear vox wise. Well, not without sounding "gay".

Bat Country is the easiest for me. I'll record parts of that later.


Alright. I've sang through them all.

Bat Country > > > Beast And The Harlot > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chapter Four.

So I'll record later, and if I suck (which I think I don't fit this vocal type) then tell me to get lost or something.

[MRDuCran]

They've all probably got some hard parts, since it's M Shadows, and the new album is more melodic, minus screams.

[Drunken Viking]

I'd like to do either Beast and the Harlot or Bat Country, I love those songs. If we do I can do both the bass and the lead or rythm guitars, I know both.

[TEST]

I'd like to do either Beast and the Harlot or Bat Country, I love those songs. If we do I can do both the bass and the lead or rythm guitars, I know both.

I've got my laptop sitting nex to me here. I'll record my "samples" of each song.

GIve me your verdict and tell me to fukk off if I fail. At least make it catchy though. :p

[Drunken Viking]

So what song are we doing?

[TEST]

So what song are we doing?

I'm recording samples, then you pick based on my voice.

[Drunken Viking]

Ahh, please when you upload use YSI. Megaupload and Rapidshaire go slow as hell for me.

[TEST]

Ahh, please when you upload use YSI. Megaupload and Rapidshaire go slow as hell for me.


kk. Will do. Beast and the harlot is way harder than Bat Country.

Now I'll record clips of Chapter Four and you can vote me off the island.

Maybe I'll record some nightwish so I sound like a fool. :p:rolleyes:

[AA-12]

I'm a great vocalist too.

/ego flex

[TEST]

I'm a great vocalist too.

/ego flex

psssshhh you'd flex your ego over the time of day. :p

I recorded a part of a Nightwish (Wish I had An Angel ) and part of Warpath, though I should've drank before doing the growls. ++ looked the lyrics. I missed "the" in there once and another word. Though it doesn't inturupt the flow at all.


I'll put on my flash drive and upload. They'll be up in 3 min. or less.

Cheers until then. btw. I actually found Chapter Four easist or maybe I was just monotone.

[TEST]

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D7CDBE127A527F09


Clips of those 3 a7x songs. It's not my vocal style, so I don't expect perfection.
Nightwish, just for the hell of it
Hypocrisy , on the fly and missed "the" in there. hah

[AA-12]

My main problem with singing is my accent. It's gay as hell when doing my cleans and some harsh vocals.

[TEST]

My main problem with singing is my accent. It's gay as hell when doing my cleans and some harsh vocals.

You like my vocals?

[Drunken Viking]

It sounds almost like you're whispering.

EDIT: And for Bat Country and Beast and the Harlot, the choruses, you have a really deep voice, so it kinda doesn't fit that well seeing as how Shadows uses high pitches.

[MRDuCran]

Hmm. The harsh vocal ones aren't actually screaming. It's the same way as pretty much anyone in the world can do, just passing air through the throat and pronouncing words, but there's no actual note coming through. You'll find if you did that with a live band, you wouldn't be able to hear it, and even if you turned it up, there'd be so much air sound, you wouldn't be able to make out the lyrics.

I think the clean ones sound like that because you're doing it in a different way, you're restricting yourself, that's why it's low. You need to stand up, and sing it like you're shouting, but obviously in key etc.

[TEST]

It sounds almost like you're whispering.

EDIT: And for Bat Country and Beast and the Harlot, the choruses, you have a really deep voice, so it kinda doesn't fit that well seeing as how Shadows uses high pitches.

Nah. I'm not even close to wispering.

It wasn't shouting, though far from quiet.


Quality of vox ? On each ?


EDIT: @ Mitch. Yeah. I have no idea how to sing in key. I'm not trained vox wise. I just tried to lift w/e from the song.

[guitarizzle]

Aw man! I wish I could record with you ppl, but I have no recording equipment.

[TEST]

I'm still waiting for drunken vikings(w/e his name is that we do not know) word on my vox.

I did mention my voice is very deep and doesn't fit an a7x song most likely though.
If you want me , fine. If you want to have Eleventeen do em or one of you. My ego isn't in it, I know the song isn't my best suit.

[Drunken Viking]

I think we should go with Eleventeen. It's nothing against you it's just I think he'd fit the song better juding from what I hear. You've got a good voice, just not for these songs. By the way, my names Chandler. :)

[MRDuCran]

We need to hear his versions of some A7x first I thinks.

[TEST]

I think we should go with Eleventeen. It's nothing against you it's just I think he'd fit the song better juding from what I hear. You've got a good voice, just not for these songs. By the way, my names Chandler. :)


Hi Chandler !


Thanks. It's suited for deeper stuff though. I was sitting down when singing that stuff. Mitch said I should stand up.


@ Mitch, What did you mean about notes coming through a scream/growl?

[MRDuCran]

@ Mitch, What did you mean about notes coming through a scream/growl?

Well it's like when Chandler said you were whispering, it's pretty much correct. There's no actual note behind it, that's why there's no bass in it. It'd be easier to demonstrate with sound examples but you're not rasping a note, it's just air.

[TEST]

Well it's like when Chandler said you were whispering, it's pretty much correct. There's no actual note behind it, that's why there's no bass in it. It'd be easier to demonstrate with sound examples but you're not rasping a note, it's just air.

Hmm. I get what you mean about the air, there's vox behind that though.

[AA-12]

Get louder man. Vocals will never be good if your singing is lower than your talking voice.

[MRDuCran]

Hmm. I get what you mean about the air, there's vox behind that though.

I know there's "vox" behind it, thus me being able to hear what you're saying, but you'll never be able to get louder than that because of the way you're doing it. If you strain real hard you might be able to, but then you're going to hurt yourself.

Read up on a few screaming lessons for the proper way, but don't expect miricales, it takes practise, time and dedication just like any instrument.

Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, my friend can scream Killswitch Style and it's definately not the way I do it, which is also the wrong way. But I don't care much for vocals so I'm not all that bothered.

[AA-12]

Just make sure you NEVER get sore and never use your throat.

[MRDuCran]

I was singing through those 3 sogs earlier too and realised it's on the top of my range. If I were to do it, I'd need to warm up first, and really concentrate. Plus, I hate the actual tone of my voice.

[TEST]

Just make sure you NEVER get sore and never use your throat.

Yeah. I've been working on redoing the growls and screams. Funny thing is, I have an extremely loud and deep talking voice. I'll go louder. :cool:

[i am the robots]

So is Dylan or Eleventeen doing the vox?

No, I just wanted to whore my band, lol.

[TEST]

No, I just wanted to whore my band, lol.

hahahhahaha. + 1 for honesty. Call Tarja, I heard she's outta a job. :p


I'm just working on singing w/e I'm listening to atm. Louder is actually easier. I think I was also somewhat nervious, so I was quieter than normal. I didn't want to **** up.

[i am the robots]

Yeah dude... it really didn't sound like you were actually singing... moreso talking to the melody.

Nightwish with my screaming would be hilarious.

[Chucktallica]

Avenged Sackfold if u ask me there agay *** emo band and u made this site alot worst jut by posting a thread about them o yea nad Drunken Viking likes little boys
LONG LIVE METALLICA

[MRDuCran]

Gtfo loser.

[Drunken Viking]

All this from a Master of Puppets review. I feel loved.

[i am the robots]

Avenged Sackfold if u ask me there agay *** emo band and u made this site alot worst jut by posting a thread about them o yea nad Drunken Viking likes little boys
LONG LIVE METALLICA


/middle finger

emo = emotional hardcore:
a sub genre of hardcore focusing on emotional aspects of life rather than social aspects. many of the bands in the emotional hardcore subgenre utilize screaming vocals, and harmonized guitar parts more often than normal hardcore bands.

examples: Circle Takes The Square, Fugazi, SikTh, Hot Cross, The Fall Of Troy, The Blood Brothers

Metallica = drunken group of rednecks that ripped off of Dave Mustaine and then finally gave up that gimmick, eventually leading to suckier and suckier music to the point they reached St. Anger.

[Drunken Viking]

Owned?

[TEST]

Owned?

Indeed.

[TEST]

Yeah dude... it really didn't sound like you were actually singing... moreso talking to the melody.

Nightwish with my screaming would be hilarious.

I wouldn't say talking. Yeah. I've been working on being louder. I listen to music 24/7 and just sing along to almost anything. So Eventually I'll grasp it down. I'm getting better. Part of it was being nervious.

Who's doing the vox now anyways?


EDIT:...... uggh my post above doesn't have an edit botton. :p

[Happy]

hahahhahaha. + 1 for honesty. Call Tarja, I heard she's outta a job. :p

Shame Nightwish are looking for another chick...

Eleventeen should try out in drag.


BTW singing was pretty good.

[i am the robots]

:lol: 6'4" drag queen with a thick neck beard... screaming.

[Happy]

Don't forget pics.

[i am the robots]

Don't forget pics.
rofl... speaking of pics, if you want to see really bad pics of me just look at my band's myspace. :lol:

NP: 3 Inches Of Blood - Wykydtron

[MRDuCran]

Which one are you?

[Happy]

I think he's Matt - the singer.

[AA-12]

yep.

[TEST]

He whores his band. NON STOP.

@ Flower Dance, thx

[i am the robots]

He whores his band. NON STOP.

@ Flower Dance, thx

:D.

You know it.

[TEST]

:D.

You know it.

So..... What's your bands name. I wanna pirate your album. :)

[i am the robots]

Go to my homepage faggy boy.

[SimonCore]

^What's your homepage website?

[TEST]

Go to my homepage faggy boy.


No. I want a link plzzy. Gimmie gimmie.

[guitarizzle]

Woah, teenies are taking over:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85481465

Anyway, what's up with the Rev's snare? I really don't like how it sounds, it lacks 'heaviness'. eh

[Drunken Viking]

Bad link. And if you're talking about one an album, it's because there is no reverb on it. I don't mind it though.

[guitarizzle]

Bad link. And if you're talking about one an album, it's because there is no reverb on it. I don't mind it though.

eh, nevermind the link, it was just some teenie fansite.

So when are you ppl recording your stuff?

[Happy]

Doesn't he use pro tools to make them sound like that?

[Drunken Viking]

Huh?

[Happy]

Pro Tools is like a computer Program you can use to create drum sounds and stuff or you can make your drumming sound different, something along the lines of that.

It says "thanks to Protools" in the booklet so I'd imagine that's how he got the drum sounds on COE.

[i am the robots]

No. I want a link plzzy. Gimmie gimmie.

http://www.myspace.com/burnthegardengreen

This time it isn't whoring!

[MRDuCran]

Whore. :p

[Drunken Viking]

Pro Tools is like a computer Program you can use to create drum sounds and stuff or you can make your drumming sound different, something along the lines of that.

It says "thanks to Protools" in the booklet so I'd imagine that's how he got the drum sounds on COE.
I knew what they were I just didn't know what you were talking about. And yeah I'm guessing he plays all the parts then uses Pro Tools for different sounds, kinda like triggers. But he still plays all the drums.

[Drunken Viking]

So yeah, the cover...

[Liquid Fantasy]

Umm pro tools is just a software made to mix, arrange instrumens/vocals/whatever you want. it has some drum loops and bass loops and whatnot but its made mostly to make things sound better not create drums or other stuff.

Oh and feel free to correct me if im wrong.

[Happy]

Is every thread like attempting a cover again?

[MRDuCran]

It certainly seems that way, or at least it's been mentioned in a few.

[Happy]

Heh I remember there was one attempted in the Metallica thread but the guy recording the drums never did it.

May bring it up again.

[MRDuCran]

Yeah you should, it'd be interesting to hear.

I would do it but I don't have a drum kit here. :(

[Drunken Viking]

Yeah, hey MRDuCRan (don't know your real name), if we aren't going to do a cover could you please just program Beast and the Harlot, I have to nothing to create drums with. :(

[MRDuCran]

Ooo that's a long song lol.

I'll give it a shot but it might not be done too speedy since I've got some college work to do this week, after that I'll be free but I'll get it done.

[Drunken Viking]

Thanks. Luckily it mostly just repeats, and it's in 4/4 'cept for the intro/outro which is 9/8.

[MRDuCran]

Time signature doesn't matter, but if you say it repeats alot, then that's definately a good thing.

[Drunken Viking]

Really the only hard part is the intro, and the bridge, but besides that he mainly just does fast double bass.

[MRDuCran]

I know the song up to that 2nd section part, where it changes.

Probably the main problem for me will be finding snare/tom sounds that I like.

[Drunken Viking]

You could DL DKFH, it's in the Cover Comp thread.

[MRDuCran]

I have that, but sometimes the good sounding ones sound weird when they're actually in a song.

I can't find a decent metal snare though.

[MRDuCran]

Well I just checked the 2 guitar pro tabs, and one's in 4/4 and the other is in 9/8, but the one in 9/8 sounds really bad, like the actual drums that are tabbed, so I'll use the 4/4, it wont make any difference anyway.

Are you going to be doing all the other parts yourself??

[Drunken Viking]

Only the intro/ourtro was 9/8. I was going to do them all except vocals, but if anyone else would like to help I'd be appreciative. I know the bass and lead guitar so far.

[TEST]

Who's going to sing? Found anyone who can hit that range?

[Drunken Viking]

You just want us to say nope, so will you. :rolleyes:
Get on AIM, I'm having a problem with Last.FM.

[Charizard]

If it's an older song, I could do the harsh parts, but we'd need someone to do the clean.