Ginger

[munky_magik]

Ginger: That loveable lunatic from Newcastle, best known for fronting The Wildhearts with honorable mentions for his solo work, Clam Abuse, Silverginer 5, and Supershit 666; Writer of some of the best riffs of all time; all round great guy. We all love him.

Unfortuantely for him his life seems to have turned from **** to worse. And then went on a bit of a decline :( For the full story click here (http://www.thewildhearts.com/cgi-bin/gingersays_full.cgi?issueno=051).

The saving grace of this story is that Ginger has written enough new material to record another solo album, and started recording it in the 22nd of this Month. This new material is apparently his "best work to date" :)

So, in this thread we highly anticipate Ginger's new release and generally discuss anything Ginger related (again).

I wonder what effect this his current situation will have on the accoustic dates that he announced :-/

The Accoustic Dates for those that missed them:
June
Fri 17 - Rugeley Rose
Sat 18 - Glasgow Barfly
Sun 19 - Newcastle Archer
Mon 20 - Wrexham Talbot
Tue 21 - Manchester Dry Bar
Wed 22 - Leeds Joseph's Well
Thu 23 - Liverpool Barfly
Fri 24 - London Barfly
Sat 25 - London Barfly
Mon 27 - Southampton Joiners
Tue 28 - Plymouth Phoenix
Wed 29 - St Albans Horn
Thu 30 - Wolves Civic

July
Fri 1 - Hull Adelphi
Sat 2 - Nottingham Rock City

I will be there :cool:


*expects replies from 'Tender, MXican, and Grateful Dead*

[Jom]

This is a post in munky's thread because he needs to continue to make threads.

I don't know anything about this guy, though, considering I'm on the other side of the pond from you.

I'll read that article, though :)

I'll also expect a concert review after you attend.

[munky_magik]

I'll upload some stuff from each of his projects for you to check out at your leisure.
But basically he's a good guy, writes great music and has a great sense of humour.

[LarsAgi007]

Oh my, I just read the article, The poor guy : / I can't wait to listen to this new material he has wrote, it will be interesting to see what all of this has done to his songwriting.

[munky_magik]

I don't think he's actually capable of writing a bad song. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Ginger - Motorvate (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UGZYZRWJABDG1YGB0JZHGV683) An original Ginger song, but performed live with Silver Ginger 5. This is taken from the second disk of Silverginger 5's Black Leather Mojo. Great song, and is excellent live.

Silverginger 5 - Anyway But Maybe (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HW16U45SEOXP0PJAZLBWQ3W55) Taken from the first disc of Silverginger 5's Black Leather Mojo. Silverginger 5 are one of Ginger's side projects.

The Wildhearts - Lovesh*t (http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2A1ETLXXTB22I1PHE6R504M89Q) A classic track from The Wildhearts who were, until recently, Ginger's main commitment.

Supersh*t 666 - You Smell Canadian (http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13603BP4NG3SD2S3QTK50QZLRG) Another of Ginger's side projects featuring members from The Hellacopters. Another really great track.

Clam Abuse - Message to Geri (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EB065UAIRYVS3M7269C4SI7S2)Another of Ginger's sideprojects. This time showcasing his wide style of writing ability.

[Six Foot Revolver]

*expects replies from 'Tender, MXican, and Grateful Dead*
/Doesn't let Ali down

I am very tempted to go see them in Leeds :thumb:

[superpeer]

I quite like the Wildhearts, don't know about Ginger though. :)

Ali, people who like the Wildhearts like Therapy?, and vice versa it's a rule.

[munky_magik]

I quite like the Wildhearts, don't know about Ginger though. :)

Ali, people who like the Wildhearts like Therapy?, and vice versa it's a rule.
I know this. Feel free to shamlessly plug Therapy? in here as well. I pretty much made the thread to alert a few people about Ginger's new solo stuff.

[Six Foot Revolver]

An amazing Wildhearts thread (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326746)


/Takes advantage of Ali's thread :p

[munky_magik]

Feel free to.

/bumped for two more people to see.

[Arise II]

I'm not out to start sh*t or anything, but isn't the wildhearts some wannabe 80's retro band?

[munky_magik]

I'm not out to start sh*t or anything, but isn't the wildhearts some wannabe 80's retro band?
If you could explain what you mean a bit more I'll be happy to answer.

[LarsAgi007]

I'm not out to start sh*t or anything, but isn't the wildhearts some wannabe 80's retro band?

I don't know, To me they are not, But its all a matter of opinion, why don't you listen to some of the links above and tell us what you think of them.

[Arise II]

If you could explain what you mean a bit more I'll be happy to answer.


Basically doing things like Mötley etc did back in the 80's

[Six Foot Revolver]

Basically doing things like Mötley etc did back in the 80's
Which is?

[munky_magik]

Their musical style isn't exactly the same, but I guess they lived the same lifestyle with the drinking and drugs. If that's what you meant.

[Arise II]

^^^ Musically. From what I've heard (just a few song clips though) its basically hair metal produced in the 21st century

[munky_magik]

I wouldn't class them as hair metal.
And they've been around for over a decade.

[Bartender]

Yeah, Ginger seems to have been having a pretty crappy time of it recently. I'm looking forward to the new album quite fantastically though, and to (finally) seeing one of his acoustic shows, on the 22nd. My tenancy runs out on the 24th, so it works out quite nicely. And as a result of being reminded that I'll hopefully be seeing him in a month or so, I'm actually listening to Grievous Acoustic Behaviour at the moment.

[munky_magik]

My thread was actually useful :)

I just want to keep this alive until Grateful Dead see's it. Then it can slink off to some other dimension.

[Dave de Sylvia]

/sees it.

Awesome thread, although I'm devastated at the lack of Irish gigs.

I'll bump this tomorrow, perhaps, with somewhat of a more useful post. :)

[Jom]

B_mp.

Who wants to b_y a vowel?

u do :p

[Dave de Sylvia]

Hmm, I forgot about this...

Ginger has a new song up on myspace (http://www.myspace.com/silverginger), it's addictive as ****.

I've included the lyrics, for when the song gets stuck to your brain like gum and you need to sing along like Britney needs a husband...

I'm feelin' every feelin' I have to day
I wouldn't have it any other way
This is more than just a state of mind
It's something new, and I'm leaving you behind

I've been shaken, I've been shown,
I wrote the book of being alone
But they were meaningless, 'cause I've never seen the world like
this
No, I've never seen the world like this

Oh when the devil is trying to tempt me,
When there is not a single angel around
When the demons they sell me were guaranteed to pull me down
What in heaven or hell is ever gonna kill me now?

I've seen much more than I ever agreed to see, but if a lesson comes
easily,
Stands to reason, it'll be lost again, but not for me, I take my
lessons
seriously
Every man can make a mistake, for every discovery they make
They learn about falling down, how you get yourself above the
ground,
How you get yourself above the ground

Oh when the devil is trying to tempt me,
When there is not a single angel around
When the demons they sell me were guaranteed to pull me down
What in heaven or hell is ever gonna kill me now?

(Widdly Solo Bit)

Oh when the devil is trying to tempt me,
When there is not a single angel around
When the demons they sell me were guaranteed to pull me down
When I was feeling Tired and Empty, without a reason for me being
around
When a breakup would lift me from the hell which you lay me down
What in heaven or hell is ever gonna kill me now?

[Bartender]

After just a couple of listens, that sounds like a great song. Have to see if it remains so to me after a while, though. Really looking forward to the album now :(

[munky_magik]

There's a downloadable version of The Man Who CHeated Death avaliable here (http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZY20HAJR8LSJ0JNS9C9C2X0DY).
He's also put up another song on His Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/silverginger).

And yeah, Grateful dead is right. TMWCD is addictive.

[Bartender]

I got word of that new song being up via the List a few days ago, but I've had no chance to listen to it yet. What's it like?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Just listened to the new song, sounds great. Not as catchy as the MWCD, but promising.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I called HMV this morning, to make sure they had it in stock, and they said they never received the delivery :(

[Bartender]

I don't have it yet :(

Obviously I'm working on correcting this as soon as possible.

[Bartender]

I've got it now, and it is excellent. Good pick with Drinking in the Daytime.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ugh it's still not in stock

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ugh HMV still don't have it. They put in another order :(

[Bartender]

You should be able to get it from Amazon swiftly now. A day or two, if you pay for postage.

I'll have to make sure I get to one of those shows as well.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I can't spare the money; I have to use HMV vouchers :(

[Bartender]

Well that's just an unfortunate situation, then.

If you like, I could send you a few of the tracks to tide you over til they get their act together?

[Dave de Sylvia]

That would be terrific, thanks >_>

[Bartender]

Did you get Drinking in the Daytime when it was here before?

[Dave de Sylvia]

I did, yeah. Great song, especially the Axl scream in the middle.

[Bartender]

Okay, well then assuming that email address in your profile is up to date, you should have the links in your inbox.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Got them. Thanks a bunch :)

[Bartender]

Hope you like them.

[Bartender]

For no good reason, Ginger's top 20 British rock albums. Think it was just printed in Classic Rock.

1 - Queen - Queen II
2 - Bowie - Ziggy Stardust
3 - Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street
4 - Beatles - Abbey Road
5 - Damned - Strawberries
6 - SLF - Inflammable Material
7 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
8 - The Clash - London Calling
9 - Cardiacs - On Land And In The Sea
10 - The Proclaimers - Sunshine On Leith
11 - Motorhead - Overkill
12 - The Go Team - Thunder, Lightning Strike
13 - Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & The Lash
14 - Buzzcocks - Love Bites
15 - The Sweet - Desolation Blvd
16 - The Kinks - Arthur
17 - Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
18 - Oasis - Definitely Maybe
19 - LowFidelity Allstars - How To Operate With A Blown Mind
20 - Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I could've sworn I read Ginger say somewhere that he'd never really heard much of the Pogues. Oh well, none of that list is particularly surprising, he's as much the sum of his influences as anyone.

Yeah so I finally got Valor del Corazon today; they texted me during the week to say it had finally arrived in. Listening for the first time now.

[Bartender]

25/03/06: Newcastle - Legends - Ginger and the Sonic Circus

:(.

[Dave de Sylvia]

You can't go? :(

He's not playing here either

[Bartender]

Was sick. Three months doing as close to nothing as makes no odds, and I'm fine, only to be pointlessly ill the day before, the day after, and the day of him playing in Newcastle.

Had my ticket and everything.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ahh, I didn't read the date. Sucks for you :(

Did you ever get to see the Pogues?

[Bartender]

Yeah, I did. And it was so good, though I'm still not entirely sure who took Kirsty MacColl's part. Dropkick Murphys were good in support, too, and I even had some drunken guy trying to dance with me for most of the night.

Only problem worth mentioning is that it seemed a bit conspicuous, seeing them in an arena.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Yeah I suppose it's a bit of an odd setting. In many ways they're suited to it though. Shane brought his mother on for FINY the first time I saw them, I think. Odd occasion.

[Jom]

Ali sent me a handful of Ginger tracks in his trademark drunken stupor a couple weeks ago, haha.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Was Drinking in the Daytime one of them and how much do you love it?

[Jom]

Was Drinking in the Daytime one of them and how much do you love it?

Hahahahhaa, how ironic would that have been if he sent me that song.

But no, he sent me...

Yeah Yeah Yeah
Keep It Cool
Bulb

And they're all really catchy. I was surprised/glad he sent them to me. I was expecting some guy with a whiny voice - so much for stereotypes!

[Dave de Sylvia]

You'd never heard Ginger before? :eek:

[Jom]

Nope :eek:

[Dave de Sylvia]

I hope you use this as an excuse to buy every Wildhearts album ever :-D

[Bartender]

I'm surprised he didn't send Drinking in the Daytime.

Why expecting a whiny voice, incidentally?

Yeah I suppose it's a bit of an odd setting. In many ways they're suited to it though. Shane brought his mother on for FINY the first time I saw them, I think. Odd occasion.

This one looked a bit young to be his mother, I think. But then if I didn't know better I'd probably badly mis-estimate Shane's age, so maybe.

[Jom]

I'm surprised he didn't send Drinking in the Daytime.

Hahaha, that's what SOP said earlier - and I laughed at the irony, since the only time he seems to write me is when he's a bit... shall we say... inebriated? Yes, that's a pretty safe term :)

Why expecting a whiny voice, incidentally?

I have no clue, to be honest. I guess I was expecting something poppy and light, but I was definitely surprised and proven wrong bigtime.

NP: Yeah Yeah Yeah

Just 'cuz I'm a guy, am I supposed to buy all of your bullshit?

You said you're gonna make it up to me, saying "Yeah, yeah, yeah!"

Hahahhaa. What a fun song. I'm glad I was sent some songs.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Oh man, I'm getting very used to this album. It's taken a couple of spins, but it's coming together very nicely.

Poor Ali :(

[munky_magik]

CJ has some new solo tracks on his Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/cjwildheart) in case anyone cares.

[Bartender]

As always, I can't get that damnable myspace to play anything. It's good to know he's working on something, though.

[munky_magik]

*Cough* (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DW5KLCLNDRRS3VRVUC2I4T6G0)

[munky_magik]

Wildhearts Update]Quite a bit of news from Ginger to report following the successful completion of the UK tour. Ginger has been in the studio from July 17th recording his new solo album (not to be confused with the next Ginger and the Sonic Circus album).

Says Ginger: "The album I'm recording is my new solo album. I don't want to reveal the title yet, just in case I change my mind. It will feature new drummer Denzel Pearson on drums, and Jon Poole (who else?) on Bass. Jase Edwards will be involved in production / engineering / recording as well as playing guitar. Tim Smith will be producing. Watch this space for more details on this, and the forthcoming Howling Willie Cunt album, 'World Of Filth'."

Ginger and the Sonic Circus hope to record a separate album this year, and Ginger has also mentioned the possibility of the Wildhearts starting work on a new record before the year is out.


:D.

[Jom]

Hooray!

Ginger's space is http://www.myspace.com/silverginger

[Bartender]

Awesome.

[munky_magik]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GYJNSU/202-5641504-9734202?v=glance&n=229816&s=music&v=glance

hmm.

[Bartender]

I'd no idea that was being released. Does anyone have it?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Anyone heard the new Ginger track? God, this guy is prolific.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/news.php?newsid=1419

[Bartender]

Awesome, thanks for pointing me towards that. Sorry for the delayed response, computer was temporarily packed away.

Anyway, I'm excited.

[Bartender]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hun71nM568k&eurl=

Lucky bastard Japanese.

EDIT: The Yeah Yeah Yeah single's good. The b-side is a (non-Ginger) cover of Caffeine Bomb, more like the version at the end of Grievous Acoustic Behaviour than the actual one.

[munky_magik]

Ginger's new album Yoni is set for release in the new year on Jan 22nd.

The full tracklist is:

1. Black Windows
2. When She Comes
3. Holiday
4. This Bed Is On Fire
5. Smile In Denial
6. Jake
7. The Night I Was Born Again
8. Why Can't You Be Normal All The Time
9. Can't Drink You Pretty
10. Save Me
11. Wendy You're Killing Me
12. Siberian Angel
Yay.

Geordie... isn't as good as I'd hoped. I like the sing-along for Geordie, though.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ugh, this is still on order in HMV. They said they'd ring me when it arrives in, but I'll try again at lunchtime on Wednesday anyway.

How's it sound, Bart? Ive only heard the song on myspace.

[Bartender]

It's really, really good. Probably not a surprise coming from me, but I actually wasn't so sure it'd be all that great for various reasons. But it's really, thoroughly awesome, I think.

Tim Smith is all over it. I don't think there's anything quite as weird as a lot of Cardiacs stuff, and I don't know if you're a fan of Cardiacs, but his influence is all over the place, in a few of the better melodies as well as some of the general sound. There's huge variety in instrumentation; all the usual stuff, and then some piano and different types of percussion (steel drums, for example), but then there's harpsichord, mellotron, strings, synths, trumpet, sax, tubular bells, extra vocalists, etc (a lot of them played or arranged by Tim Smith). Not all on every track (thankfully), but at various points. For recurring musicians; well, Ginger's Ginger, and Smith's just plain talented at pretty much everything he does, but the drummer guy's about as good as he seemed to be on the unmastered "Black Windows", and Jon Poole gets several opportunities for some great bass, too.

I won't say anything particular about any track for now, as I think you really want to be discovering them all yourself (that is, if someone had spoiled several of my first listens of songs here, I'd be attempting to kick them in the throat right now). So just a couple of non-general notes. First, "Jake", despite being eight minutes long, with sentimental lyrics and strings all over it, still kicks *** and is loud. And, "Black Windows" may be the worst (least good) song here.

Now to muddle my way through www.hmv.co.jp to get their version.

[munky_magik]

Yoni is awesome, agreed? Wonderfully poppy but I hope he he doesn't bring too much of it to the new Wildhearts record.
I should hopefully see the Wildhearts on the 4th and 8th in Glasgow and Manchester, respectively, assuming that my exam timetable doesn't mess that up. Hopefully they'll play the Carling festival as well so that I have a reason to go this year :)

[Bartender]

I've no idea which I'll be going to. All the ones I have a chance of going to (Newcastle, Bradford, Glasgow - got a friend (one I introduced to the Wildhearts) at Edinburgh) seem to be inconveniently arranged. So I'm just going to have to wait and see.

Still liking _Yoni_ though, and it's got me looking forward to a hopefully less light Wildhearts album now.

[munky_magik]

Tickets to see The Wildhearts on May 4th. New album on April 23rd. Life is good :)

New single The Sweetest Song is out now, though this is a download only version. I think I shall try and get it now.

EDIT: I have the song. Opinion/YSI pending.

EDIT *2: http://download.yousendit.com/1C3784AE75F3A200 For those that want it.

Uh, It has heavy bits and poppy bits as promised. It just doesn't strike me as classic Wildhearts though. A good song and the poppy bits are catchy as **** and even though this song isn't supposed to feature on the album, it sort of strikes fear into me :(

EDIT *3: It's kinda growing on me. Curses. This chorus is really catchy.

[Bartender]

I like it, yeah, the contrast between the verses and the chorus. I'm interested to see how different this version is from the album version.

I already have the album, but not in my hands and so haven't been able to listen to it yet. I pre-ordered it a while ago, and it arrived sometime earlier this week, but unfortunately it did so back in Newcastle. So I'm waiting for it to be posted down here, should get here around the actual release date, annoyingly. Really looking forward to hearing it, though. The List reaction so far has been, as ever, ridiculously positive. Which is predictable, but still has me excited.

[Dave de Sylvia]

The chorus is 'All The Young Dudes' cut in half. I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive, Monday hopefully :(

[munky_magik]

So getting this was pretty easy. I just walked into HMV and it was there. For Once.

First impressions are good, but I'll let you make up your own minds before I say anymore.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Sorry, this album is just terrible :(

[munky_magik]

Oh, I see. First my football teams and now my music taste :mad:

I quite like it, though that was only to be expected. In saying that it's not vintage Wildhearts and it still has alot of Must be destroyed in it.

What don't you like about it?

[Dave de Sylvia]

It tries too hard to be an old Wildhearts album. The 9-minute songs are just painful, and Ginger's actually tipped over from stealing elements of other songs and making them better to just stealing the bad parts from bad tracks and doing nothing with them. I can't believe they've actually made an album so bad, I'd never have believed it possible.

[Bartender]

I need more time with it before I know what I think. My main impression at the moment is just how cool it is to have heard Dr. Phibes mentioned.

[munky_magik]

Wildhearts tonight. Oh my oh my oh my.

[munky_magik]

An awesome night was had by all.

Support:
G.U. Medicine - From what I could make out were a sort of rock/stoner rock type deal and sounded alright. Their mix was awful though so I couldn't really make out much. Other than they were loud.

Sign - Um. Bad. Frontman sounded/looked like a pre-pubescent girl and was irritating to say the least, as well as having some of the worst guitar solos ever. Though to be fair, they were entertainingly bad and a Youth Gone Wild cover earned them a few points.

Show:
Setlist as best I can remember it:
Vanilla Radio
Caffeine Bomb
TV Tan
Someone That Won't Let Me Go
Nexus Icon
The Revolution Will Be Televised
Top of the World
Everlone
Sick Of Drugs
Stormy in the North
The New Flesh
Suckerpunch
OCD
Head****
-----------------------------
Rooting for the Bad Guy
I Wanna Go

They were so good. I was little apprehensive after hearing Geordie but they were spot on. Scott Sorry looked like he'd been in the band his entire life, the crowd was good, the sound was good, Ginger's banter was good and the band really looked to be enjoying themselves. Academy 2 is a tiny venue as well, which was cool. Even the new material sounded pretty awesome live.

Apparently there was a fight at some point, but I managed to miss it entirely, for a nice change. And t-shirts were only £10.00 each as well.

Was quite close to going to the after party but after looking at the queue we decided to go elsewhere.

I'm just happy to have seen them again :)

The only crap part of the gig was getting Id'd twice at the bar.

Pics for those that wish:
http://s203.photobucket.com/albums/aa164/Pissjoy/

They look alot further away than we were. I'd say we were in spitting distance, for an adequately qualified spitter.

[Bartender]

Good to know they were on form, though it sounds like a bit of a shame about the support. How'd the new stuff work out live?

I might still be seeing them on Monday, but unfortunately it's far from certain.

[munky_magik]

It went down pretty well, got a big response from the crowd. I think I would've preferred Bi-Polar or Slaughtered Authors instead of Revolution but then they would've had to cut out a few songs or so. The new stuff sounded pretty good though.

It's a bit of a weird setlist, really. Only one song from phuq and not as many from Earth vs as I would have liked. Even something from Endless would've been cool. At least OCD was there, which was awesome.

[Dave de Sylvia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuFGsDl0kLw

New video for The New Flesh

[munky_magik]

Don't suppose anyone else managed to catch Ginger & The Scorchers/CJ/God damn whores?

[Bartender]

Nope, I've been spectacularly bad at making it to shows at all recently. How was it?

[munky_magik]

It was really, really good. Surprisingly <_<
Tiny venue, only about 100 people there.
The whores were great, and Mr Poole is rather a funny man.
CJ's vocals were a bit off, surprisingly. Dunno if he was just having an off night or if he just isn't used to being the frontman but either way it kinda took the gloss away from the album.
I've never heard any of the Scorcher's stuff but it was really quite good. The de-dreaded Ginger looked like he'd been playing with them all his life and was just really happy.

It was just a really fun night, especially with CJ and the likes joining Ginger on stage toward the end of the night.

A3 on Friday, and then hopefully their acoustic after show afterwards :)

[Dave de Sylvia]

The Scorchers as in Jason & The Scorchers?

[munky_magik]

The very same.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Cool. They have that one awesome song.

[munky_magik]

They have a few, apparently. Though I'm not sure if I just enjoyed them so much because it was something Ginger related.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I do believe I was thinking of White Lies:

http://jasonandthescorchers.com/diesel_cafe/mp3/wliesstu85.mp3

[munky_magik]

That would be the same White Lies that The Wildhearts covered then.
I think they sound better with Ginger.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ah, I didn't know they covered it. What release is it on?

[Bartender]

One of the Endless Nameless singles, I believe.

The only thing I know that's even kind of by them, I think, is "One Less Heartache", from one of Jason's solo albums, which has the Wildhearts playing on it. I've got a few sound files hidden somewhere of a live performance of it and a bit of banter between Ginger and (the ridiculously southern) Jason, too. But I don't know anything else.

[munky_magik]

So Ginger's new single has something old, something new and something special. Should be interesting...If anyone can actually get hold of it before the new year.

Gonna see The Wildhearts on the 19th Dec, anyway. Should be good judging by their last performance :)

[Bartender]

Mine's pre-ordered, yeah, but lord knows when it will get to me. Apologies in advance for breaking the page, but since we can't mask links any more;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Market-Harbour-Ginger/dp/B0010YO8AS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1197387623&sr=8-2

A bit out of the blue, for me at least. Amazon says late January, but I've heard people talking about it being out for Christmas (though again, no idea where they've got that from).

[Dave de Sylvia]

The single is out on Christmas Day. Or, in Ginger time, July.

[munky_magik]

Small chance, but anyone else manage to catch the recent solo tour?

Laika Dog decent suport.
Ginger great show, Valor stuff sounded great live and a nice airing for SG5 stuff.

[Dave de Sylvia]

ali

[munky_magik]

Sylvia?

[Dimmu Burger]

Ginger?

http://memetrics.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bryce-dallas-howard.jpg