The Official Streetlight Manifesto/Catch 22/BOTAR Thread

[gastery6]

All those members coming and going must be a bitch to keep track of there names

[DaveToopes]

Yeah. I'm not sure I even know who is in Streetlight besides Tomas, and they never update their website with members.

[TAND]

Yeah. I'm not sure I even know who is in Streetlight besides Tomas, and they never update their website with members.
Chris Pasiack or something is in on bass.

[AIRIC]

Their bassist rules.

[TAND]

Their bassist rules.
This one is new, Josh Ansley was the one that recorded the cd.

[gastery6]

Doesn't like Thomas make the bass lines?

[TAND]

Doesn't like Thomas make the bass lines?
I wouldn't suspect him to, Josh was pretty sweet.

[Buzzbomb]

Looks like Streetlight are heading down the same path as Catch 22

[KingOfSka]

Doesn't like Thomas make the bass lines?

Tomas writes pretty much everything for Streetlight. Horn riffs, bass lines, guitar, etc.

[DaveToopes]

Looks like Streetlight are heading down the same path as Catch 22

which is why i doubt that Streetlight will put out any more albums after Keasby Nights 2

[Liebensaft]

which is why i doubt that Streetlight will put out any more albums after Keasby Nights 2
Wherever Thomas ends up will turn out to be a fantastic band. Keasbey Nights was amazing. Everything Goes Numb was incredible. A Call to Arms by BotAR was stupendous.

[TAND]

It would be sweet if they didn't quit. They would turn out to be an even better band.

[DaveToopes]

Wherever Thomas ends up will turn out to be a fantastic band. Keasbey Nights was amazing. Everything Goes Numb was incredible. A Call to Arms by BotAR was stupendous.

Amen!

[AIRIC]

Wherever Thomas ends up will turn out to be a fantastic band. Keasbey Nights was amazing. Everything Goes Numb was incredible. A Call to Arms by BotAR was stupendous.

I agree.

[DaveToopes]

Wherever Thomas ends up will turn out to be a fantastic band. Keasbey Nights was amazing. Everything Goes Numb was incredible. A Call to Arms by BotAR was stupendous.

I like the use of different adjectives for each album.

[Lukeh]

I saw Streetlight the other night and they all had so much energy it woulda been hard to have believed that they were gonna split up at the time, besides, Tom goes through so many band members that this time it's not as if Streetlight are an actual "band" that can fall out and stuff, more just a bunch of musicians playing with Tom Kalnoky. Yeah, I see your point about not releasing another album though 'cos I guess it's pretty hard to be creative when it's like that.

For anyone interested I also got to see the Skatalites live on the exact same night, which was amazing. It meant missing the Skatalites 6 encores but it was worth it :cool:

[DaveToopes]

that sounds like one hell of a night.

[Liebensaft]

I like the use of different adjectives for each album.
Ha. Thanks. It wasn't easy.

[mostlydeadonarrival]

Nahh, are tou sure Jim Conti isn't touring still?

Jim was still there in September. Jamie played trombone primarilary I believe.

[maco]

Yeah, I see your point about not releasing another album though 'cos I guess it's pretty hard to be creative when it's like that.
Not necessarily. EGN was "we're robbing you" so the next could be "you're robbing us" ^^

[Liebensaft]

Not necessarily. EGN was "we're robbing you" so the next could be "you're robbing us" ^^
:lol: They just have no luck.

[Henrik]

In case tou didn't already know Catch 22 is releasing a new album next year titled "Permanent Revolution"
http://www.victoryrecords.com/UpcomingReleases.asp

[Ghostfire3]

In case tou didn't already know Catch 22 is releasing a new album next year titled "Permanent Revolution"
http://www.victoryrecords.com/UpcomingReleases.asp

Nice! I'll be sure to check that out.

[POINTLESS5448]

Is Streetlight still remaking Keasby Nights?

[AIRIC]

hep hep hep

[Liebensaft]

Is Streetlight still remaking Keasby Nights?
That's what the January release from the is.

[Jessizzle]

Iv convinced my music teacher to look into our jazz band learning to play riding the fourth wave. Now that would be aweeesome.

[maco]

Iv convinced my music teacher to look into our jazz band learning to play riding the fourth wave. Now that would be aweeesome.
or walking away...that's jazzy

[tappenzee]

or walking away...that's jazzy

True, you got somebody to sing?

****, make one transition into the other by way of the flute.. that would be TIGHT

[AIRIC]

skin flute?

[Henrik]

Is Streetlight still remaking Keasby Nights?

I doubt it.
Anything from Tomas would be appreciated in my ears right now.
I need something to forget the stupidness of Against me!.

[sketchyjoe]

I doubt it.It's due to be released on the 20th.

[Henrik]

WHAT?
I can belive i've missed that...Please tell me how you know.
There is nothing on their site.

[sketchyjoe]

WHAT?
I can belive i've missed that...Please tell me how you know.
There is nothing on their site.
Bum Gremlins told me (http://www.punknews.org)

[Henrik]

WOW.

If that is true I don't ****ing care about Against me! anymore (oh a little maybe)

I can't wait. Somehow I don't really believe it though
Are punknews.org normally worth the trust?

[Drop The Baby]

punknews.org is a reliable site

[Henrik]

Nice. I have never had so big expectations for an album before.

[DaveToopes]

Niether have I.

skin flute?

What other flute is there???

[lpsoxfan88]

I am now officially shitting my pants in anticipation.

[Kithkin]

I'll say it again.

Don't believe a thing until it comes from Thomas's mouth.

Victory has had that Jan 20th release date since the summer.

[Berserker!]

Streetlight re-doing Keasbey Nights now gives me no reason whatsoever to like C22

[KingOfSka]

Streetlight re-doing Keasbey Nights now gives me no reason whatsoever to like C22

Haha, they've become obsolete.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

I still like Catch 22. And Streetlight.


Maybe I'm just a creep.

[Liebensaft]

I like Catch 22, even though I've heard very little of their post-Keasbey efforts. I'll be seeing them in just 8 days with Big Dizzle.

/excited

Oh, and for your viewing pleasure: http://x80.xanga.com/ea98147ac512823709220/z16745483.jpg

[pedro durruti]

You think that show will sell out?

[Liebensaft]

I'm hoping it doesn't, because my ride, and her sister (my friend) are planning to buy at the door.

[Berserker!]

Crack-Rock-Steady, download Alone In A Crowd. It has a few good songs.

[Henrik]

I really enjoy "what goes around comes around". Best track by new ctach IMO.

[Henrik]

EDIT: two post sorry

[Danger Bird]

If anybody has the back/inside cover art for Everything Goes Numb, could you post it?

[KingOfSka]

I really enjoy "what goes around comes around". Best track by new ctach IMO.

On & On & On is my favourite C22 song, aside from Keasby Nights.

[Liebensaft]

Crack-Rock-Steady, download Alone In A Crowd. It has a few good songs.
I'm Joe. And I have Dinosaur Sounds and Alone in a Crowd, but just don't listen to them much.

[Ghostfire3]

Yeah, those albums are o.k. Nothing too special.

[maco]

True, you got somebody to sing?

****, make one transition into the other by way of the flute.. that would be TIGHT
Honey, Riding the Fourth Wave starts with a tin whistle, not a flute. It's too high pitched and metallic to be a concert flute. A piccolo has the pitch, but it's still more hollow sounding. In Christina, it's a concert flute. And, well, Walking Away doesn't have a flute at all. I don't think I've the theory knowledge to compose a flute part for it either. I don't do jazz, just classical. That reminds me that I need to learn jazz flute. Classical flute gets a bit boring. And I need to get a piccolo. And a tin whistle. And a trumpet. And a valve trombone...wow, that'd be really expensive to get all that....****...oh well, good thing I work at a music store!

[Henrik]

I've just bought a tin whistle, I can play whiskey in the jar :)

[Jessizzle]

Flute is amazzzingly hard to play. I prefer useing a mouth peice. I can play pretty much everything in a regular Concert or Jazz band. but flute is byfar the hardest.

[Jessizzle]

I think everytime i listen to a SLM song, i find something new. I cant get bored of it, I hear it diffrently each time i listen.

[maco]

Flute is amazzzingly hard to play. I prefer useing a mouth peice. I can play pretty much everything in a regular Concert or Jazz band. but flute is byfar the hardest.
How? Flute's sooo much easier than a reed instrument. With a reed you gotta figure out how to shape your mouth all funny and make it tight so your cheeks don't puff and bite just right. With a flute, you blow air across/diagonally-across the hole in the same exact way as you would blow on a soda bottle. You know how you can blow on a soda bottle and get a loud flutey noise? It's the exact same thing. Just keep your mouth loose and centred over the hole with the mouth piece just resting against your lower lip. If you need to practice how to get a sound (shouldn't be hard since it's the same as a bottle, but whatever) take off the mouthpiece and block the end with the soft part of your right hand below your thumb. You might need to rotate toward or away from you to figure out exactly what angle to hold it, but it's not that hard. Clarinets though? Those are a little tougher. I can get sounds out of them, but concentrating on keeping my mouth all funny shaped and tight and all is hard.

[Jessizzle]

How? Flute's sooo much easier than a reed instrument. With a reed you gotta figure out how to shape your mouth all funny and make it tight so your cheeks don't puff and bite just right. With a flute, you blow air across/diagonally-across the hole in the same exact way as you would blow on a soda bottle. You know how you can blow on a soda bottle and get a loud flutey noise? It's the exact same thing. Just keep your mouth loose and centred over the hole with the mouth piece just resting against your lower lip. If you need to practice how to get a sound (shouldn't be hard since it's the same as a bottle, but whatever) take off the mouthpiece and block the end with the soft part of your right hand below your thumb. You might need to rotate toward or away from you to figure out exactly what angle to hold it, but it's not that hard. Clarinets though? Those are a little tougher. I can get sounds out of them, but concentrating on keeping my mouth all funny shaped and tight and all is hard.
I think its whatever your used to. alot of people find brass the hardest, because if you havnt been taught how to buzz its hard to make a sound. Reed instruments are very easy to pick up.

[Shtein]

very, I've only been playing tenor for 4 months and I wail hardcore.

[mostlydeadonarrival]

I think its whatever your used to. alot of people find brass the hardest, because if you havnt been taught how to buzz its hard to make a sound. Reed instruments are very easy to pick up.


Speaking for the band geeks oboe basson and french horn are hard as ****. Buzzing comes pretty easily(but this is coming from a trombone player so....)

[tappenzee]

Honey, Riding the Fourth Wave starts with a tin whistle, not a flute. It's too high pitched and metallic to be a concert flute. A piccolo has the pitch, but it's still more hollow sounding. In Christina, it's a concert flute. And, well, Walking Away doesn't have a flute at all. I don't think I've the theory knowledge to compose a flute part for it either. I don't do jazz, just classical. That reminds me that I need to learn jazz flute. Classical flute gets a bit boring. And I need to get a piccolo. And a tin whistle. And a trumpet. And a valve trombone...wow, that'd be really expensive to get all that....****...oh well, good thing I work at a music store!

Well, regardless, a tin whistle at the same pitch as the last note in Walking Away could transition into 4th Wave. I'm not talking anything complicated, just a simple segue

[Jessizzle]

Speaking for the band geeks oboe basson and french horn are hard as ****. Buzzing comes pretty easily(but this is coming from a trombone player so....)
Oboe is actually really easy for me. Its Diffrent for everyone i would have to say.

[Brian Manifesto]

On & On & On is my favourite C22 song, aside from Keasby Nights.

on and on and on is on keasby nights

and streetlight was added to the bamboozle festival

[Dude3]

I'm confused.

When you guys say that Streetlight are remaking 'Keasbey Nights', do you mean that they're re-recording that whole cd, only as Streetlight instead of Catch 22?

If so, I think that's really lame. I want all new Streetlight Manifesto songs.
Sorry if I'm completely off.

[Forest_Fire]

on and on and on is on keasby nights



He meant the song keasbey nights.


I'm confused.

When you guys say that Streetlight are remaking 'Keasbey Nights', do you mean that they're re-recording that whole cd, only as Streetlight instead of Catch 22?

If so, I think that's really lame. I want all new Streetlight Manifesto songs.
Sorry if I'm completely off.


Nobody knows for sure, the band has been really secretive about everything and hasn't released any new information in a long time. However, two new songs were recorded at live shows and are up on a fansite.

[SkaRobotArmy]

wow, a full page of talk about a flute in the punk forum, hardcore guys :P

I'm taking grade 9 music right and playing trombone, its probably the easiest (im in grade 12, not 9) but the tin whistle is way cooler than a flute, and so is a pan flute. so stop talking about it.

[tappenzee]

He meant the song keasbey nights.





Nobody knows for sure, the band has been really secretive about everything and hasn't released any new information in a long time. However, two new songs were recorded at live shows and are up on a fansite.

I don't think it's gonna be a straight-up note for note remake, I'm expecting an entire re-interpretation of the album. I'm all for it, Tomas needs to take his lyrics back and turn them into something else brilliant. I can't wait to hear it.

I'm sure all the robberies are gonna slow down production though. I'm expecting an album early 2007, 4th quarter 2006 at the earliest

[Iron Bug]

They already have the date at Jan 20th.

[tappenzee]

They already have the date at Jan 20th.

But that's Victory's date, isn't it? And hasn't that been there for like months now?

And c'mon, you should know by now that we can't rely on release dates from Streetlight/BOTAR

Anyways, I REALLY hope you're right though. If that drops on 1/20, I'll be a happy person.

[TAND]

I think everytime i listen to a SLM song, i find something new. I cant get bored of it, I hear it diffrently each time i listen.
I find a new bass lick all the time in their songs.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

I am seeing Catch 22 tomarro w/ Big D and The Tossers. Are Catch 22 good live, im kinda skeptic cause i dont realy like anything past Keasby Nights. I kno Big D is good, saw them w/ DKM.

[albert_bass]

I find a new bass lick all the time in their songs.

Hahaha the bass lines are like inifite.

[Jessizzle]

I am seeing Catch 22 tomarro w/ Big D and The Tossers. Are Catch 22 good live, im kinda skeptic cause i dont realy like anything past Keasby Nights. I kno Big D is good, saw them w/ DKM.
They play alot of stuff off Keasby nights. When my friends went they say like 80% was Keasby nights.

[TAND]

Hahaha the bass lines are like inifite.
And he's got all different styles of playing. God i'm jealous.

[Kithkin]

They play alot of stuff off Keasby nights. When my friends went they say like 80% was Keasby nights.


It's usually about half.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Thats good enough for me

[Liebensaft]

I am seeing Catch 22 tomarro w/ Big D and The Tossers. Are Catch 22 good live, im kinda skeptic cause i dont realy like anything past Keasby Nights. I kno Big D is good, saw them w/ DKM.
Hey man, look for me there. Kid in a black Op Ivy hoodie. I'll be skanking fiercely.

[Ghostfire3]

I'm so jealous of you guys. How much were the tickets?

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Hey man, look for me there. Kid in a black Op Ivy hoodie. I'll be skanking fiercely.

Will do. I think im gonna wear my streetlight manifesto shirt, so look for that i guess...

Tix were $12

[Skidmark Steve]

Will do. I think im gonna wear my streetlight manifesto shirt, so look for that i guess...

Tix were $12
Guys guys....I cant go, I have work. :upset:

[Ghostfire3]

Will do. I think im gonna wear my streetlight manifesto shirt, so look for that i guess...

Tix were $12

$12!!!! The Mustard Plug show I went to last night was $13 at the door! I feel ripped off. Although, Mustard Plug played really well, and so did the 4 local ska bands.

[Skidmark Steve]

$12!!!! The Mustard Plug show I went to last night was $13 at the door! I feel ripped off. Although, Mustard Plug played really well, and so did the 4 local ska bands.
Dude...it's only a dollar. Don't get to mad.

[Ghostfire3]

Dude...it's only a dollar. Don't get to mad.

Yeah, I know. The thing I'm mad about is that there are way better bands playing at this show than there were at the show I went to. Eh, oh well.

[Liebensaft]

Will do. I think im gonna wear my streetlight manifesto shirt, so look for that i guess...

Tix were $12
Alright. I'm not sure how early I'll be there. The Troc is a pretty small place, so I'm imagining it's gonna be packed in pretty well. I'll keep my eyes out.

[albert_bass]

And he's got all different styles of playing. God i'm jealous.

Yeah man, I enjoy playing his bass lines like no other. All of them are amazing.

[dancing-monkey-named-fred]

I never get 2 c any good ska bands because im Australian and none of them ever play here ):

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

I just got back and it was great. Big D played better imo, but it was still great. I never skanked so hard haha. The Tossers were pretty cool too.

Big D did this "worst drummer" contest and Dave lead the thing. The drummers were Ryan from Catch 22, The guitarist from Big D, someone from Westbound Train and a girl from the audience. Of course the girl won, which kinda isnt a good thing since the contest was the worst drummer, but it was fun none-the-less. Dave said Big D only does this on their last show for the year so I guess it was cool to see it.

[TAND]

I just got back and it was great. Big D played better imo, but it was still great. I never skanked so hard haha. The Tossers were pretty cool too.

Big D did this "worst drummer" contest and Dave lead the thing. The drummers were Ryan from Catch 22, The guitarist from Big D, someone from Westbound Train and a girl from the audience. Of course the girl won, which kinda isnt a good thing since the contest was the worst drummer, but it was fun none-the-less. Dave said Big D only does this on their last show for the year so I guess it was cool to see it.
Where was the show?

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

The Trocadero

[TAND]

The Trocadero
No clue where that is...

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Philly. Unless there is one in another place with the same name?


When is the new album supposed to drop? I'm out of the loop these days.

[Liebensaft]

I just got back and it was great. Big D played better imo, but it was still great. I never skanked so hard haha. The Tossers were pretty cool too.

Big D did this "worst drummer" contest and Dave lead the thing. The drummers were Ryan from Catch 22, The guitarist from Big D, someone from Westbound Train and a girl from the audience. Of course the girl won, which kinda isnt a good thing since the contest was the worst drummer, but it was fun none-the-less. Dave said Big D only does this on their last show for the year so I guess it was cool to see it.
Everything he said. Except the Tossers were a little boring. I skanked myself silly.

The Trocadero is in Philadelphia. Right on the edges of Chinatown.

[Liebensaft]

New album June...26? They played new songs, and they sounded pretty good.

[TAND]

I'll be awaiting that new cd. But that's a long time, I'll probably forget about it til september.

[AIRIC]

What comes out January 20th then?

[Liebensaft]

Streetlight Manifesto doing Keasbey Nights...supposedly.

[AIRIC]

And then there's a whole nother album coming out after that?

[Liebensaft]

We can only hope. Streetlight Manifesto needs to do something new this year.

[Skidmark Steve]

Everything he said. Except the Tossers were a little boring. I skanked myself silly.

The Trocadero is in Philadelphia. Right on the edges of Chinatown.
10th and Arch

I heard that show sucked wein. Did you meet any MX users?

[Liebensaft]

10th and Arch

I heard that show sucked wein. Did you meet any MX users?
It was awesome really. Except the Tossers didn't really do it for me and I don't know Westbound Train. I think I might have seen FloggingMurphy. I saw a person in a Streetlight shirt, who looked (I think) like the picture he put up awhile ago.

[|V|3Tallica !]

my band and i ( cpt. Finger) already play with streetlight, kick *** show here in montreal, alot of fun with them ... the drummer smoked a joint with me :naughty:

[Ghostfire3]

It was awesome really. Except the Tossers didn't really do it for me and I don't know Westbound Train. I think I might have seen FloggingMurphy. I saw a person in a Streetlight shirt, who looked (I think) like the picture he put up awhile ago.

Did The Tossers play bad or did you just not get into them?

[Kithkin]

The Tossers say they have a really hard time getting good sound at most shows.

They were good when they opened for Reel Big Fish. They're an Irish-punk band that predates Flogging Molly... though Flogging Molly does it better.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

The Tossers are more folk, they're not that fast. FLogging Molly is more punk fueled and are a lot faster.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

It was awesome really. Except the Tossers didn't really do it for me and I don't know Westbound Train. I think I might have seen FloggingMurphy. I saw a person in a Streetlight shirt, who looked (I think) like the picture he put up awhile ago.

I saw 3 ppl in Op Ivy hoodies. Was yours a zip-up hoodie? I definently saw you, just don't know which one you were haha. I should have asked all of the ppl in Op Ivy hoodies till I found you, but me and my friends were too busy skanking haha.

[Liebensaft]

I saw 3 ppl in Op Ivy hoodies. Was yours a zip-up hoodie? I definently saw you, just don't know which one you were haha. I should have asked all of the ppl in Op Ivy hoodies till I found you, but me and my friends were too busy skanking haha.
I didn't wear mine in. I contemplated it, but figured I'd be too hot. I was right. I was in my Briefs t-shirt. You may or may not have seen it, but oh well. Yeah, I was busy skanking too.

I saw those posers in Op Ivy hoodies. None as cool as mine. And yeah, mine's a zip-up.:cool:

[Liebensaft]

Did The Tossers play bad or did you just not get into them?
The latter.

[Kool Aid]

Anyone know a site with good Streetlight tabs? I want to play Point/Counterpoint with some people at my school's next talent show, but MX is down and I don't really know of any other respectable sites.

[TAND]

What do you play?

[Lukeh]

Anyone know a site with good Streetlight tabs? I want to play Point/Counterpoint with some people at my school's next talent show, but MX is down and I don't really know of any other respectable sites.
Well I'm gonna assume that you play guitar, and for the guitar parts the chords for the entire thing are just A, D, A, E, A, D, A, E, etc... all the way through. Play open chords, slightly slower for the intro and then turn them into "barré" ( or "ska" :rolleyes: ) chords for the rest, I'm fairly certain that there are no other chords but the ones I mentioned, although the E is played an octave higher when barré'd, if I'm wrong then I just have faith in you to work out the rest of the chords.

Congrats on 1000th post, by the way.

[albert_bass]

Anyone know a site with good Streetlight tabs? I want to play Point/Counterpoint with some people at my school's next talent show, but MX is down and I don't really know of any other respectable sites.

www.911tabs.com

[Liebensaft]

www.911tabs.com
I've posted that link for about 20 people and people still ask where to get tabs.

[albert_bass]

Yeah, I know. What can you do, start a massive campaign to show people how to use google?

[Liebensaft]

Yeah, I know. What can you do, start a massive campaign to show people how to use google?
There should be some announcement just saying to use 911tabs.

[the-UK-ska-scene]

Last time I saw Streetlight, their drummer was like "Hey haven't I seen you at like 6 of our shows?" I was thinking 'hey that's pretty cool he remembers me....oh god maybe I go see that band too much.'

I was wrong, you can't see that band too much. I see the error of my ways now. I'm just glad they're not coming back anytime soon, cus I've run out of money for tickets/travel/merch.....No actually I wish they were coming back. I'd sell a couple of kidneys or something if I needed the cash that bad.

[albert_bass]

I wish they came to Spain at least one ****ing time in my life. I don't think they're coming this year.

[Ghostfire3]

Last time I saw Streetlight, their drummer was like "Hey haven't I seen you at like 6 of our shows?" I was thinking 'hey that's pretty cool he remembers me....oh god maybe I go see that band too much.'

I was wrong, you can't see that band too much. I see the error of my ways now. I'm just glad they're not coming back anytime soon, cus I've run out of money for tickets/travel/merch.....No actually I wish they were coming back. I'd sell a couple of kidneys or something if I needed the cash that bad.

I envy you. I've never seen them and I really want to.

[Henrik]

What do you guys think about One cool guy?
I have only heard "from Downtown" but I think it is quite awesome.
Reminds me of a ska'ish Beasty Boys.

[Brain Toad]

What do you guys think about One cool guy?
I have only heard "from Downtown" but I think it is quite awesome.
Reminds me of a ska'ish Beasty Boys.

They are an awesome band.

[Jessizzle]

I have yet to hear one cool guy. I should check them out soon.

[Brain Toad]

I have From Downtown on soulseek, Jess. Peter has Seven Inches of OCG.

[Kool Aid]

I've posted that link for about 20 people and people still ask where to get tabs.

Sorry :upset:.

Well, I know now, so whatever. Thanks, albert.

[TAND]

I've posted that link for about 20 people and people still ask where to get tabs.
I went there for the first time today. The tabs I looked at, atleast 75% were the same, and to top it off they were wrong.

[jettadude77]

i use http://www.ultimate-guitar.com now that mxtabs.net is down. it is a solid tabs site... news, tutorials, reviews, etc.

[albert_bass]

I went there for the first time today. The tabs I looked at, atleast 75% were the same, and to top it off they were wrong.

Yeah but as far as I know they have every major tab site on the web, or almost every one, so if you don't find it there you won't anywhere, unless it's on personal pages.

[Skidmark Steve]

i use http://www.ultimate-guitar.com now that mxtabs.net is down. it is a solid tabs site... news, tutorials, reviews, etc.

I use that site too

[Jessizzle]

Cause im cool i use horntabs.com

[TAND]

Yeah but as far as I know they have every major tab site on the web, or almost every one, so if you don't find it there you won't anywhere, unless it's on personal pages.
True, but all of mx's tabs aren't there, which sucks. Cause they had the most correct, and different tabs.

[Lukeh]

Cause im cool i use horntabs.com

I <3 horntabs.com so much, it saves me so much time and effort. Before I my friends and I used to literally spend hours just transposing tabs from C to Eb, etc...

[DaveToopes]

What do you guys think about One cool guy?
I have only heard "from Downtown" but I think it is quite awesome.
Reminds me of a ska'ish Beasty Boys.

They're realllly good, I used to listen to them much more than I do now, but they're great.

[Jas]

Soooo, guys wanna buy me some new clothes?
http://www.theriscgroup.com/bandits/acband/images/store/products/clothes/jacket1.gif

[DaveToopes]

More like, "Soooo, guys wanna buy DaveToopes some new new clothes?"

[Lukeh]

Soooo, guys wanna buy me some new clothes?
http://www.theriscgroup.com/bandits/acband/images/store/products/clothes/jacket1.gif
*whines* Arrrr I want one!... stupid living in England-ness... I expect I'll just buy some fabric paint and make some stuff myself. Anyone want me to post up some BOTAR stencils I've been working on in the DIY thread?

[DaveToopes]

I do, post away!

[Lukeh]

Rightey-ho, lemme just find somewhere to host 'em first and they'll be available for y'all...

[DaveToopes]

Super!

[Lukeh]

I've posted the link in the DIY thread for people there, here it is for anyone who may miss it, though.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d10/Lukehh/

[Jas]

I believe a few people have been using the stencils I made a while back, I'll just find em innit
http://www.scuffedculture.net/botarstencils.htm
they're all massive because I enlarged them for detail and thought it'd be helpful for other people to have the same.

DaveToopes dude, a few of my mates have ordered from the Risc Store and it's come over ok. You obviously can't at the moment, though, seeing as it's down. I want stuff, but I have made my own instead. I will link to some pictures of that, I've made a few shirts for myself, and I have sold a couple....
front (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1007.jpg) / back (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1008.jpg)
botar patch 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1010.jpg)
botar patch 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1011.jpg)
streetlight patch (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1012.jpg)
front (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1083.jpg) / closer (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1084.jpg)
back (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1085.jpg) / closer (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1086.jpg)
front (http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/7532/dscn12160uy.jpg) / back (http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/4038/dscn12170wz.jpg)
another botar shirt (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1088.jpg)
Risc patch (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSC00514.jpg)

I'm making a couple more patches or summat tonight, actually. Pics later if I get round to it.

[Lukeh]

Woah, bloody hell... those pictures are so awesome, I love the quality of that bomb with the 3 different colours. And that link is probably my saviour, too.

[Liebensaft]

I believe a few people have been using the stencils I made a while back, I'll just find em innit
http://www.scuffedculture.net/botarstencils.htm
they're all massive because I enlarged them for detail and thought it'd be helpful for other people to have the same.

DaveToopes dude, a few of my mates have ordered from the Risc Store and it's come over ok. You obviously can't at the moment, though, seeing as it's down. I want stuff, but I have made my own instead. I will link to some pictures of that, I've made a few shirts for myself, and I have sold a couple....
front (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1007.jpg) / back (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1008.jpg)
botar patch 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1010.jpg)
botar patch 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1011.jpg)
streetlight patch (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1012.jpg)
front (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1083.jpg) / closer (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1084.jpg)
back (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1085.jpg) / closer (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1086.jpg)
front (http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/7532/dscn12160uy.jpg) / back (http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/4038/dscn12170wz.jpg)
another botar shirt (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSCN1088.jpg)
Risc patch (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/skaskaskaska/DSC00514.jpg)

I'm making a couple more patches or summat tonight, actually. Pics later if I get round to it.


Wow, those shirts are very good.

[Jas]

Thanks a lot guys :) The one with the 3 colour bomb is actually one I sold.
My favourite is the one with "The revolution will not be amplified" on it, but I didn't fix the paint right (gotta make mistakes to learn) and when I washed it the green top layer faded supremely. Looks kinda cool now, but I thought it looked awesome when I first did it.

[Liebensaft]

That bomb one was great. That was worthy of being sold, for sure.

[tappenzee]

Late pass me if this has been asked already in this thread, but does anyone know what the name "Streetlight Manifesto" means or where it came from?

Just curious

[lpsoxfan88]

What do you guys think about One cool guy?
I have only heard "from Downtown" but I think it is quite awesome.
Reminds me of a ska'ish Beasty Boys.
OCG's awesome. I've also only heard "From Downtown," but I listen to it a lot.

What else do they have in terms of albums?

[StreetlightRock]

Late pass me if this has been asked already in this thread, but does anyone know what the name "Streetlight Manifesto" means or where it came from?

Just curious

Closest thing would be Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. Probably someone else knows better than me though.

[DaveToopes]

OCG's awesome. I've also only heard "From Downtown," but I listen to it a lot.

What else do they have in terms of albums?

7 Inches of OCG, I think that's it.

Jas, all those shirts look really good, good job.

[tappenzee]

OCG's awesome. I've also only heard "From Downtown," but I listen to it a lot.

What else do they have in terms of albums?

I hung out with those guys a bunch of times. Nicest guys you could ever meet. Weirdly enough, my sister was friends with the bassist and my ex-girlfriend was in the school marching band with them. Apparently they're a bunch of band geeks from Union. I mean that in the nicest way possible though.

[DaveToopes]

That's awesome!

[antiflagsetsfire]

Just saw catch 22 with Big D and two local bands. They were kinda disapointing, i had too high expectations

[TAND]

Just saw catch 22 with Big D and two local bands. They were kinda disapointing, i had too high expectations
You didn't like Catch or Big D, or both?

[AIRIC]

Catch 22 are disapointing live.

[Liebensaft]

Catch 22 are disapointing live.
Catch 22 - Tomas = disappointing (if you heard Keasbey Nights that is). If Catch 22 never had Tomas, they'd still be a decent ska band, but with him...*whistles*.

[Lukeh]

http://www.21deadmonkeys.com/pictures/heykevin2.jpg

http://www.21deadmonkeys.com/pictures/goingdown.jpg

[Jas]

I've got every Streetlight-related 21DM on my wall at uni. Yes, I am aware I need help.

[Jessizzle]

I've got every Streetlight-related 21DM on my wall at uni. Yes, I am aware I need help.
I like you, post more we could allways use more ska whores.

[Lukeh]

I've got every Streetlight-related 21DM on my wall at uni. Yes, I am aware I need help.
:lol:
That's awesome, there's really nothing wrong with Streetlight obsessions... I spent about 4 days trying to work out the exact guitar that Tom Kalnoky had (before it got stolen) and then bought one...

[Liebensaft]

http://www.21deadmonkeys.com/pictures/heykevin2.jpg

http://www.21deadmonkeys.com/pictures/goingdown.jpg
Are they yours? Nice.

[sketchyjoe]

No.

[Jas]

I like you, post more we could allways use more ska whores.

I am teh-uk-ska-seeeeen on my other account.

:lol:
That's awesome, there's really nothing wrong with Streetlight obsessions... I spent about 4 days trying to work out the exact guitar that Tom Kalnoky had (before it got stolen) and then bought one...

Yeah I was planning to steal Chris's Piccolo snare.....but someone beat me to it :upset:

[Buzzbomb]

So what is up with Keasby Nights? There hasn't been any news updated on the Streetlight site since the robbery and the Victory website still has no tracklisting or even image of the album.

[Henrik]

That's because it's not true. I'm actually quite sure it's not true.

[DaveToopes]

Not true that they're remaking the album?

[antiflagsetsfire]

You didn't like Catch or Big D, or both?

big d was incredible....catch 22 was disapoiting

[TAND]

big d was incredible....catch 22 was disapoiting
That's what I figured.

[Henrik]

Not true that they're remaking the album?
How do you know?
None of us really know what the **** they are doing. And if they really are remaking KN I doubt it will be released January 20th.

[KingOfSka]

Do not doubt the Kalnoky.

[Lukeh]

Superheroes don't even need to promote albums on their own websites, if he said 20th of January, then he will not disappoint us!

Argh, I really hope this isn't just some sort of twisted rumour but I shouldn't give up hope...

[Theramed]

I just read some of the insert of the BOTOR demo i find the story bout dear sergio sad

[Jessizzle]

What is it?

[Moon Flavor]

I just read some of the insert of the BOTOR demo i find the story bout dear sergio sad
Where did you get it?

It's note for sale anywhere right now, is it?

[Theramed]

Where did you get it?

It's note for sale anywhere right now, is it?

i think i saw it on th riscgroup site but im not sure if i'm imagining it.
i got it when i saw streetlight.

[Theramed]

What is it?

This

another oldie that i wasnt really happy with the first time around . its cool the way the strings kind of weave in and out of the horns , making it much more dynamic than the original. if only sergio knew.. by the way, someone asked me if he was a real person and the answer is yes. We more or less grew up together in keasby, nj. ah, the memories. we used to play with his commodore 64 in his closet, of all places, for hours. I moved away and just last year i saw him in a computer store, working checkout. he didnt recognize me so i didnt say anything

[Kithkin]

Superheroes don't even need to promote albums on their own websites, if he said 20th of January, then he will not disappoint us!



He never said January 20th. Nor did he ever say he was re-making Keasby Nights. He has said nothing since mid 2004 when he said a few things on Streetlight's website about an album full of non-new material that was supposed to come out a mid/late 2004.

We know they play new songs live. We can assume that there are more they haven't played live (here's to life was the only EGN song they'd played before they recorded the album).

On that fact and assumption, we can assume the next album won't be the one he talked about in mid 2004. The way victory did EGN was SM recorded the songs and then victory gave them money to master them and then distributed the album. Victory doesn't have anything to do with the creative process and is essentially just a distributor for SM. Victory probably can't put much pressure on SM to record anything because the risc group owns the material.

Thomas is terrible about releasing new material though. BOTAR's website still says that they will be releasing something in the near future... and their last update was 12/03.

As great as it would be if something came out on 1/20, getting your hopes up would be a foolish move.

[Henrik]

Exactly.

Do not doubt the Kalnoky.
He never said anything.

[Lukeh]

My bad/ignorance, apologies.

[i_am_zombie_jesus]

I bought Keasby Nights On Boxing Day and have been in love with Catch 22 ever since. The horns,drums,vocals and everything are awsome on thaty album. It hasnt left my cd player since the car ride home from the mall.

[KingOfSka]

Exactly.


He never said anything.

I never said he said something.

:smoke:

[tappenzee]

I bought Keasby Nights On Boxing Day and have been in love with Catch 22 ever since. The horns,drums,vocals and everything are awsome on thaty album. It hasnt left my cd player since the car ride home from the mall.

Heh, boxing day

[Henrik]

I never said he said something.

:smoke:
oh.. sorry:p

[TAND]

I bought Keasby Nights On Boxing Day and have been in love with Catch 22 ever since. The horns,drums,vocals and everything are awsome on thaty album. It hasnt left my cd player since the car ride home from the mall.
That's good. Don't forget to mention the basslines next time though. :thumb:

[zarnoz]

hey guys i was searching SM on google and found this kick@ss board but anyways:

ANYONE KNOW WHEN SM WILL COME TO SOUTH FLORIDA?!?! IM TALKING FT. LAUDERDALE / MIAMI AREA

oh and p.s gimp's version of supernothing kicks c22 keasbey nights's version tail, oh and dont get me wrong KN is my favorite album of all time

[POINTLESS5448]

i doubt they will for a little while. they were jsut here in october. and by here i mean palm beach. the last time they played in lauderdale was like ska is dead 2 i think. where in weston do you live?

[Henrik]

oh and p.s gimp's version of supernothing kicks c22 keasbey nights's version tail.

So not true.:smash:

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Anyone with AIM has got to hook me up with the BOTAR EP. The links on the site are broken. :(

[Henrik]

here you go mate: :chug:

http://skachilles.com/music/botar/

[zarnoz]

i doubt they will for a little while. they were jsut here in october. and by here i mean palm beach.

true true
but they make tours out of nowhere,
like after they got robbed, sure they needed money but suddendly they make the "stop robbing us tour" which passed by jacksonville, even thought thats still a good 6 hour drive from here

mustard plug is coming feb 12th they should follow their footsteps

why is SM staying out of south florida?

[Liebensaft]

why is SM staying out of south florida?
They don't want to get robbed.

[jettadude77]

true true
but they make tours out of nowhere,
like after they got robbed, sure they needed money but suddendly they make the "stop robbing us tour" which passed by jacksonville

i think those shows were makeup shows for the ones they missed when they got robbed the first time.

[POINTLESS5448]

why is SM staying out of south florida?
becasue were so far down. plus how many kids do you know around here that listen to streetlight or anything good for that matter.

[Jessizzle]

Yeah, I might have to agree, Gimps supernothing > C22

[zarnoz]

becasue were so far down. plus how many kids do you know around here that listen to streetlight or anything good for that matter.

ALL OF MY FRIENDS!!!

out of my friends 14 are comin with me to see mustard plug and ive seen 5 kids in my school alone with SM hoodies

[DaveToopes]

I just downloaded a Streetlight show off of Nick, it's awesome!!

[TAND]

Yeah, I might have to agree, Gimps supernothing > C22
Where'd you hear that? I have only heard them on purevolume.

[Jessizzle]

Where'd you hear that? I have only heard them on purevolume.
Im cool like that.

[TAND]

Im cool like that.
So purevolume?

[Jessizzle]

no. A friend sent it to me.

[pedro durruti]

There's this one website.. I forget what it's called, but it has every media file involving Tomas available

[Jessizzle]

http://skachilles.com/music/gimp/

[Liebensaft]

C22 Supernothing = 1,000,000x >>>> Gimp's version.

[DaveToopes]

C22 Supernothing = 1,000,000x >>>> Gimp's version.

Truth.

[StreetlightRock]

Its misses out on the slow part of Gimps though =(

[Henrik]

Truth.
Truth^2

[Liebensaft]

Its misses out on the slow part of Gimps though =(
Yeah...exactly.

[DaveToopes]

Gimps version misses out on the awesomeness that C22's version has.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

here you go mate: :chug:

http://skachilles.com/music/botar/Thanks, you're the man.

[POINTLESS5448]

ALL OF MY FRIENDS!!!

out of my friends 14 are comin with me to see mustard plug and ive seen 5 kids in my school alone with SM hoodies
do you go to cypress?

[Henrik]

Thanks, you're the man.

No problem, enjoy, seriously.

[zarnoz]

do you go to cypress?

yes i do but i also have many friends in falcon cove who are comin to see mustard plug with me

[maco]

becasue were so far down. plus how many kids do you know around here that listen to streetlight or anything good for that matter.
hahahhaha we dont have that problem in pittsburgh...every kid on stage crew at my school is pretty much required to love streetlight...if they dont at first, they end up loving it because that's all they will play during meetings and setting things up. ska's still pretty cool in this city.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

No problem, enjoy, seriously.I already am :cool:

[TAND]

Gimps version misses out on the awesomeness that C22's version has.
Both versions are freaking sweet.

[StreetlightRock]

^ Gar, after listening to both again, I agree, they both rock my socks.

[DaveToopes]

Both versions are freaking sweet.

Yeah, they are. I just like Catch 22's version better.

[TAND]

I like them both, they both are unique... but the same song.

[jettadude77]

i took this from another streetlight forum and thought i would pass it along to you guys...

"Sooooooo, I just got the victory records catalog, and in the "this year from victory records....." section, there is Keasbey nights 2, with a legit release date and album cover. The cover is a simple yellowish cover with "Keasbey Nights as performed by streetlight manifesto" in the middle. The release date is 3/7/06"


here's a link to the picture that he was talking about...
http://img238.imageshack.us/full.php?image=smkn5oa.jpg

this is pretty sweet news

[StreetlightRock]

So its true about KN2? S'hit, they better be making those songs a million times better if they kept us waiting for so f'uckin long! But, still, thats very, very, very cool.

[Henrik]

WOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

If that's true I can't wait.
I will seriously sh!t my pants when I get it. This is by far the biggest expectations I have had to a release of anything ever.....

[DaveToopes]

****ing shi't this is going to be so awesome!

[Liebensaft]

Woooooooooo.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Alright, what's the Gimp business. I just figured out/found BOTAR, and now you're throwing some other band at me.

[Jessizzle]

gimp is thomas's band from when he was like 14 or something like that.

[zarnoz]

niceeee about KN2

does it mention permanent revolusion by c22

its comes out this year too

i wonder how much is gonna be against tomas

[Liebensaft]

Permanent Revolution is out in June. What the hell are you talking about?

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Wow. I don't know if I'm going to be too happy about this KN2. It'll kinda ruin my reason to listen to C22 unless they make the songs different.

[DaveToopes]

Alright, what's the Gimp business. I just figured out/found BOTAR, and now you're throwing some other band at me.

www.skachilles.com/music/gimp

[Jessizzle]

www.skachilles.com/music/gimp
That has been posted in this thread like 2472185 times. CANT PEOPLE CLUE IN YETTTTT.
/ im done.

[DaveToopes]

Jack (I think that's his name) clearly did not know what or where to find Gimp mp3's, so I gave him some.

[zarnoz]

Permanent Revolution is out in June. What the hell are you talking about?

huh? i know that why i said "its coming out THIS year too"

i meant if there was a cover already and maybe more info on it

chill pill

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Jack (I think that's his name) clearly did not know what or where to find Gimp mp3's, so I gave him some.
No I saw it and downloaded it, I just didn't know what association Gimp had to C22/SM/BOTAR

[DaveToopes]

No I saw it and downloaded it, I just didn't know what association Gimp had to C22/SM/BOTAR

****!!!

[TAND]

I wanna hear the new Keasbey Nights, although it probably isn't as good.

[Jessizzle]

****!!!
Silly Ethan. Your dead, so I wasnt talking to you! <3

[AIRIC]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Jessizzle]

Hey eric, remember when streetlight leaked, and we were listening to it. and no one would believe us that it actually leaked, they just thought it was a joke.
Well whos laughing now?

[AIRIC]

serisly

[Liebensaft]

huh? i know that why i said "its coming out THIS year too"

i meant if there was a cover already and maybe more info on it

chill pill
I meant this part:

i wonder how much is gonna be against tomas

[tappenzee]

I hope SM completely knock every song out of the park and take those songs back as Tomas's OWN

[TAND]

I hope SM completely knock every song out of the park and take those songs back as Tomas's OWN
Yeah, but we all know that isn't going to happen

[Henrik]

I can't see why the new catch 22 album should be against Tomas. I have never ever heard any of the two (ex catch vs new catch) saying that they hated each other. And if they did, why should streetlight have a catchmember to be their agent.
The only prove is the line in a moment of silence, but that could just as well be about something else.

[_lower_class_brat_]

are these like the same band?

[Henrik]

who....catch 22 and Streetlight manifesto??? Nope.

3 members from catch 22 (including the songwriter and singer) broke out and some years later they formed Streetlight with guys from One cool guy.

Catch 22 continued with new members and a very different sound.

[_lower_class_brat_]

what about B.O.T.A.R.?

[albert_bass]

BOTAR are some people from SM and other guys playing acoustic ska. I think there's Thomas' brother there too.

who....catch 22 and Streetlight manifesto??? Nope.

3 members from catch 22 (including the songwriter and singer) broke out and some years later they formed Streetlight with guys from One cool guy.

Catch 22 continued with new members and a very different sound.

Alone In A Crowd wasn't very different

[Liebensaft]

Alone in a Crowd and Dinosaur Sounds are both so disappointing.

[AIRIC]

Catch-22 are disapointing all together save KN. Even their live show.

[Liebensaft]

Keasbey Nights is arguably one of the best ska-punk albums in existence. Catch 22 minus Tomas is still a mediocre ska group, but knowing that at one time they made Keasbey Nights, it's hard to listen to their newer stuff.

[albert_bass]

Alone In A Crowd is great.


Keasbey nights is a masterpiece though.

[Henrik]

Alone In A Crowd wasn't very different

I think so. Not as much as DS though.
The song on Alone in a crowd that IMO reminds the most of Keasbey nights is What goes around comes around. That's by far by favorite non-keasbey nights song too:).

[albert_bass]

I love Hard To Impress and Bloomfield Ave.