The Official Streetlight Manifesto/Catch 22/BOTAR Thread

[sketchyjoe]

No way. They're the most talented 3rd wave band. They get that. Besides I know more people who don't like them that people who like them.

4 like - more than 10 dislike
Most talented =/= Best.


They are good but no way is their album the fourth best punk album ever which the users of this forum seem to think it is.

[Henrik]

I think it is. actually I can't find an album that I enjoy more than Everything went numb.

[Kithkin]

The recording quality on Keasby Nights isn't exactly great. That alone leaves a lot of room for improvement.

I don't think they are simply covering all the songs on Keasby Nights. I'm simply saying that if they did, the album would have better versions of the songs.

They keep pushing it back because they keep loosing band members.

Covers that sound like the original are talentless bar band covers. The point of a cover is to reinterpret it.

[Arucard]

I am looking foward to Keasbey 2, and knowing Streetlight, they spend an incredible amount of time on it, and come out with a good, orignial record.

My 2 cents.

[albert_bass]

Most talented =/= Best.


They are good but no way is their album the fourth best punk album ever which the users of this forum seem to think it is.

Yeah that's true. But most talented in my opinion means they're all talented musicians and also write awesome songs. There's not a bad song on the album and everything fits perfectly from the drums to the bass and the horns. Everything. That's why they're talented and the best 3rd wave band in my opinion.

[sketchyjoe]

They're one of the best but I prefer The Rudiments.

[albert_bass]

Never heard them, recommend an album.

[sketchyjoe]

Circle Our Empire. I've got it on Soulseek.

[Unseen2k0]

One thing all of you guys need to get is there won't be a KN2. Thomas posted that on their website awhile ago.

[circlesandsquares]

Possibly the best ska band ever. Defintaly my favorite one. Are they really making a new cd called Keasby Nights Vol. 2? Thats what I saw on amazon.com.

[AIRIC]

No, there will be no Keasby Nights 2.

[noteworthy]

let be realistic folks. There is absolutely no way SM is covering Keasbey Nights. its definetly new material. 2, botar will not put out an album in your lifetime. and 3, i'll be at the pony show, my 8th, on june 18th. roll call?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

If I have money.....

<---this guy

[TAND]

if i can get a ride me too.

[Unseen2k0]

let be realistic folks. There is absolutely no way SM is covering Keasbey Nights. its definetly new material. 2, botar will not put out an album in your lifetime. and 3, i'll be at the pony show, my 8th, on june 18th. roll call?

I've already stated #1. I disagree with #2. I think BOTAR will put out another CD.

[Brain Toad]

let be realistic folks. There is absolutely no way SM is covering Keasbey Nights. its definetly new material. 2, botar will not put out an album in your lifetime. and 3, i'll be at the pony show, my 8th, on june 18th. roll call?

Some news from SLM said there would be no new material on the new album, which means remakes of Catch 22, SLM, and BOTAR songs.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

or OCG.

*prays for OCG*

[Brain Toad]

10.02.04

"2"

hi guys, the following is very esoteric, be forewarned:
(thank you, knowles, for the vocabulary word)

the whole "2" debacle is half truth, half fiction. very few people know what actually is going down and those people, ironically, are the only ones keeping quiet. people will speculate and talk trash regardless, so be it. at the end of the day, we're simply doing something we believe in, a part of a whole that won't be entirely unveiled for quite some time. everyone sit tight, it'll all come together eventually, then you can judge.

this we can tell you:
a) there are no numbers involved. don't even ask how that happened, it's ridiculous

b) no new songs, really. but you'll be surprised, hopefully pleasantly.

c) we're doing this to prevent you from spending money unnecessarily. you'll understand that soon as well.

d) trust us. we try to do the right thing as much as possible, and our number one priority, as always, is the music.

i guess that about covers it, for now. pay attention, things will be announced when they're announced. and, as we learned over the last few days, never trust ANYONE'S news regarding sm unless you hear it here.

(fvsdgfs)

[Buzzbomb]

SO Streetlight are making a new album? I've only read the last page of this thread cause im too lazy to read the rest. So basically whats this about?

[AndNico]

does anyone know any other bands that are like these guys?

[Jessizzle]

Catch 22 ?

[lpsoxfan88]

June 15th...

Was your show canceled like ours? I was so ready to go, when all of a sudden I got a phone call from the booking agent from the venue telling me to tell eveyone I knew that it was canceled... Arghh!!!

I really like their music, favorite song is Point/Counterpoint. Though I don't have high expectations for Keasbey Nights II because I think that the Catch 22 version could not be improved upon. And if it can be, not very humanly possible.

I did go to the Slackers on saturday though... the best sounding live band I have ever heard in my life. That is ranging from metal, to ska, to jazz, and to classical.

Best Ever...

Not to my knowledge. I'ld be PISSED if it was. I've been looking forward to tonight for a while.

[dkm4life101]

im seeing streetlight manifesto with whole wheat bread and some other band here in chicago on the 12.

p.s.does paisly still post out here?

EDIT: found him, nevermind

[Brain Toad]

Official Thread ++

[Jessizzle]

Gay!... Really gay! god were going to be as bad a RM at this rate.

[Brain Toad]

Gay!... Really gay! god were going to be as bad a RM at this rate.

How so, this is our fourth official thread. They have 20, Pop-punk has three, Alt & Indie have a couple. It needs to be done when there is always threads on a band. And its not like ours get constantly bumped like R&M. There is still thousands of bands out there to make threads about.

[PunkyMcEmo]

i just saw streetlight manifesto. it made life worthwhile.

every song flowed into eachother perfectly.
oh man, and they put keasby nights in the middle of point counterpoint as like an extended bridge. it was really weird but sounded fricking awesome. he did the same thing in failing flailing with 9mm and a 3 piece suite. best concert ive ever been to

[Brain Toad]

I knew they did Point/Keasby Nights/Counterpoint, didnt know about Failing Flailing/9 mm and a Three Piece Suit, that sounds pretty awesome. Still kicking myself for not being able to go to SID2 to see.

[lpsoxfan88]

Man, that show kicked ***.

[Henrik]

Are their any livevideos with streetlight on the internet besides the one on punkrockvids?

[Iron Bug]

I knew they did Point/Keasby Nights/Counterpoint, didnt know about Failing Flailing/9 mm and a Three Piece Suit, that sounds pretty awesome. Still kicking myself for not being able to go to SID2 to see.


The ended with Dear Sergio when I saw them. They dident even play 9.MM.

[sketchyjoe]

I relistened to their album today and I was wrong when I said they were overrated.

They're vastly overrated.

[Unseen2k0]

I relistened to their album today and I was wrong when I said they were overrated.

They're vastly overrated.

You're overrated.

I've heard that Thomas may do a 1 man tour with Dan Potthast of MU330 and Sean P. Rogan of Big D and the Kids Table.

Anyone heard anything about that?

[sketchyjoe]

You're overrated.

What an intelligent response.

[albert_bass]

Probably they're overrated... I still love them more than any other 3rd wave band, except Catch22 which are more or less in the same grade of awesomeness.

[Unseen2k0]

What an intelligent response.

It matched yours. I had the same number of reasons as you did, and I even read your post twice before I called you over rated, just to go against the trend. You and me, we're a lot alike in that sense.

[sketchyjoe]

I only go against the trend when the trend isn't very good. Streetlight Manifesto are a decent band. Technically gifted with a few good songs but I could name ten better ska-punk bands off the top of my head. They sound like a band that would be great live but on the album they just don't cut it. It sounds like a mess of fast, technically skillful (but not particularly enjoyable) musicianship, standard lyrics with a few nice turns of phrase and over-enthusiastic shouting. They're also one of the least ska ska-punk bands around.

[Brain Toad]

I only go against the trend when the trend isn't very good. Streetlight Manifesto are a decent band. Technically gifted with a few good songs but I could name ten better ska-punk bands off the top of my head. They sound like a band that would be great live but on the album they just don't cut it. It sounds like a mess of fast, technically skillful (but not particularly enjoyable) musicianship, standard lyrics with a few nice turns of phrase and over-enthusiastic shouting. They're also one of the least ska ska-punk bands around.

Those are the things I agree with.

[pedro durruti]

Streetlight is a great band- yes overrated but great nonetheless, and they are even better live, I'd say the only other skapunk band's live performance that matches theirs is Big D's.

[Kithkin]

Big D are hit and miss live. The were amazing at Warped 2 years ago and not very good opening for Mustard Plug in pittsburg a few months before that.

The Suicide Machines on the other hand, are probably the best live band you will ever see. They and The Living End are the only bands that I have ever seen where paying ~30 for a ticket was worth a short set (warped for Suicide Machines and TLE opened for The Vines/Jet)

[TAND]

i saw suicide machines two years ago at warped as well. they split the crowd in two and just had us charge at eachother.

[non sequitor]

i saw streetlight last night...they were awesome as exspected

i was talking to one of the horn players after the show and he confirmed that the keasbey nights 2 thing is true...apparentely they think itll be out around decemberish

[TAND]

wait is it catch or streetlgiht that is supposed to be putting that out?

[pedro durruti]

Big D are hit and miss live. The were amazing at Warped 2 years ago and not very good opening for Mustard Plug in pittsburg a few months before that.

The Suicide Machines on the other hand, are probably the best live band you will ever see. They and The Living End are the only bands that I have ever seen where paying ~30 for a ticket was worth a short set (warped for Suicide Machines and TLE opened for The Vines/Jet)
Woot! They're coming here in August

[Unseen2k0]

i saw streetlight last night...they were awesome as exspected

i was talking to one of the horn players after the show and he confirmed that the keasbey nights 2 thing is true...apparentely they think itll be out around decemberish

Your post made me slam my head into the wall.

[pedro durruti]

So he had a typo on expected, didn't capitalize or use proper punctuation. Big motha ****in' deal yo!

[Shtein]

wait is it catch or streetlgiht that is supposed to be putting that out?

streetlight

[TAND]

well. thats a little better than having catch do it. streetlight at least has some original members.

[Shtein]

They're supposedly remaking alll the songs, or at least thats what I heard, but it's still in the making so nothings final

[Brain Toad]

I posted the news a page back. Highlights of it

It will not have a number in the name (so no Keasby Nights 2)
It will have no new songs. So they will probably be taking songs from Keasby era Catch, old SLM, and BOTAR stuff (hopefully Here's to Life)

I hope they announce more soon.

[Unseen2k0]

I posted the news a page back. Highlights of it

It will not have a number in the name (so no Keasby Nights 2)
It will have no new songs. So they will probably be taking songs from Keasby era Catch, old SLM, and BOTAR stuff (hopefully Here's to Life)

I hope they announce more soon.

That was a worthless post. I've told them there won't be another KN2 multiple times. They keep posting it and spreading the false rumor though.

[lpsoxfan88]

i saw streetlight last night...they were awesome as exspected

i was talking to one of the horn players after the show and he confirmed that the keasbey nights 2 thing is true...apparentely they think itll be out around decemberish
In Providence? That's where I went.

[Anarcho Poser]

Albany the 17th... I wish I could get out there. Too bad I didn't get my permit as soon as I turned 16, otherwise I could. Bummer.

[AIRIC]

Go, I'll be there!

[mr.k]

im seeing them on wednesday

[|V|3Tallica !]

Hi guys, Yesterday way the time of my life! me and my band played with Streetlight Manifesto in Montreal, it was totally amazing, we had the buffet before the show, the beer etc ... all this for free hehe! we play the first part with a jam pack room ... like 300 ppl maybe 350 . After our set i talk to the drummer and ask him if he wanna smoke a joint but he refused cause he smoked like 5 before i ask him hehehe.

When they start playing it was totaly amazing, the first song was A moment of violence followed by moment of silence, ? , ? , that ill be the day, failling flailing, everthyng went numb, after that i go back stage cause oh my god it was a goddam oven over there lol! in conclusion, they are great in show, they look shy with other band lol but there still very nice with them!

[Jessizzle]

I can tell your french..

[BuddahFist]

^^haha...yeah, but it doesn't take away from the hipness of your story......

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

nice, streetlight's great.

[AIRIC]

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[Fabz]

Hi guys, Yesterday way the time of my life! me and my band played with Streetlight Manifesto in Montreal, it was totally amazing, we had the buffet before the show, the beer etc ... all this for free hehe! we play the first part with a jam pack room ... like 300 ppl maybe 350 . After our set i talk to the drummer and ask him if he wanna smoke a joint but he refused cause he smoked like 5 before i ask him hehehe.

When they start playing it was totaly amazing, the first song was A moment of violence followed by moment of silence, ? , ? , that ill be the day, failling flailing, everthyng went numb, after that i go back stage cause oh my god it was a goddam oven over there lol! in conclusion, they are great in show, they look shy with other band lol but there still very nice with them!


Arg!!! I have miss the show... :upset:

[albert_bass]

Very cool

[username77]

Thats pretty sweet.

[Coma_Girl]

i missed the show. what's the name of your band?

[sketchyjoe]

I can tell your french..
His french?

[Jessizzle]

His french?
You're

[lynch_me]

When he said "hehehe" you knew he was french

[Coma_Girl]

When he said "hehehe" you knew he was french
im french and i never said "hehehe"

[Let's Chop Cats!]

This thread drops off the first page and even the regs forget it exists.

Pretty cool you got to play with them.

[Oi_addict]

Okay, i just missed streetlight manifesto tonight in montreal because of some crap and i'm really pissed off! :angry:

[sketchyjoe]

im french and i never said "hehehe"
What about this post?
I love Joe Strummer! hehehe!

[pedro durruti]

I thought the bad English and "I'm from Montreal..." gave it away. Cause I say hehehe all the time and I'm not French

[sonicst0rm]

they play a lot at the stone pony so im gonna go see Streetlight.

all my friends are obsessed with them and the obsession has spread like wildfire around my school everyone loves them now, sweat shirts, t shirts etc... EVERYONE

[JoeyRamone]

I get to go see Streetlight Manifesto twice this coming week. Once in Cleveland on Saturday, and then in Pittsburgh on the 16th. It's going to be effing sweet.

[Coma_Girl]

What about this post?
stop making fun of my admiration for joe strummer. i never said that! :upset:

[Henrik]

Hey guys look what I found: http://punkrockvids.com/downloads.html

Streetlight playing Keasbey nights live. The sound quality is not that well cause it's hard to hear the bass and the guitar. But it does has the last part of point/counterpoint in it.

Are any other live videos on the internet, than this one and the other one on punkrockvids?

[Unseen2k0]

Very good video, I know for a fact two other songs were recorded at that show, early on in the set before Tomas was tired, I've seen them. I can't find the link though. I'm still looking.

Edit: http://musicsojourn.com/AR/Alt/page/k/KalnokyTomas.htm
That is an interview with Tomas about the Acoustic Bandits and mentions of Manifesto. Worth listening to. 12:15 long.

[Henrik]

nice tank you.

[Unseen2k0]

If you go to the link you posted, you can see "Everything went Numb" on there. It's about half way down the page, or you can use ctrl + f and just search for "Streetlight" and it'll go right there.

[tbone1123]

i think josh ansley should rejoin streetlight, the bass lines he wrote for Keasbey Nights and Everything Goes Numb are ridiculous

[Forest_Fire]

When was that interview taken?

[Forest_Fire]

In the notes of the BOTAR cd, there's a page about the risc group. Under each letter there is a symbol, e.g. one is an eye and one seems to be a book. What do these mean?

http://www.skachilles.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4975

page 18-19, i think

[Unseen2k0]

No one knows(to my knowledge) what RISC stands for, other than the people in it.

[Forest_Fire]

Yeah. Some people said it stood for "Revolution In Silent Combat", but that turned out to be a rumour

[Unseen2k0]

http://dandobi.com/

There is a live Streetlight video there.

[Jessizzle]

Everytime i Listen To A SLM song i cant stop listening to it.. then i will forget about them, then a couple weeks later i relize how good they are.

[Shtein]

http://dandobi.com/

There is a live Streetlight video there.

dammit cant watch it, I dont have QuickTime :upset:

[sketchyjoe]

Then get Quicktime?

[Shtein]

My comp is slow, no point

[Henrik]

Isn't it just the same as the one on punkrockvids?

[Henrik]

In the notes of the BOTAR cd, there's a page about the risc group. Under each letter there is a symbol, e.g. one is an eye and one seems to be a book. What do these mean?

http://www.skachilles.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4975

page 18-19, i think

I am so jelous of you guys who own that cd. I haven't seen it anywere on the internet. I hope that they some day re-release it.

[SkaTastic54]

Anybody here going to the Streetlight Manifesto show in Chicago this sunday?

[Rush--WorkingMan]

Did anyone go to the show on Wednesday if you live around Toronto

[Jessizzle]

I had Ride problems/Silly Mother But i heard it was really good.

[Brain Toad]

Did anyone go to the show on Wednesday if you live around Toronto

Edit button, learn how to use it.

[TAND]

I JUST PRINTED OUT MY TICKETS FOR STREETLIGHT JUNE 18TH! boo yah.

[albert_bass]

Everytime i Listen To A SLM song i cant stop listening to it.. then i will forget about them, then a couple weeks later i relize how good they are.

I told you.

[d-money229]

Haha I was at the show the second Streetlight Video on punkrockvids.com was filmed at. Go me.

[JoeyRamone]

Oh my God, the video of Streetlight doing Keasbey Nights was awesome. I love how they did that transition. I'm going to be seeing Streetlight tomorrow night. I can't wait!

[Henrik]

It sucks living in europe. All the good bands never come to visit. And if they do, it is in germany og england.

[Jessizzle]

I told you.
Lies :upset:

[tbone1123]

Did anyone go to the show on Wednesday if you live around Toronto

i did the flatliners and whole wheat bread didn't show up but streetlight was really good

[Jessizzle]

i did the flatliners and whole wheat bread didn't show up but streetlight was really good
That Flatliners Would of shown up, but there was a confusion with promotor/band and they were kicked off the bill, Same for Edgefest, It sucks for the Flatliners, theyve had some bad luck.

[Article 57]

I saw Streetlight Manifesto in Chicago last night, with Gym Class Heroes and Whole Wheat Bread. Streetlight was last in the lineup, saving the best for last, it was ****in' amazing, thats I have to say.

[Purr]

Catch 22 - keasbey knights..amazing ska cd (getting rid of tomas was a bad thing)
Streetlight manifesto -....no words can describe them..tomas kalnoky is a genius
BOTAR - amazing

hooray for ska

[StAbZ]

i dnt think there's any way that streetlight will ever be as good as older catch 22.... they just don't have the same talent. when streetlight manifesto play catch 22 songs live, they sound crap..

[the-UK-ska-scene]

Yes, you're right, half the members of old Catch 22 plus a few other people who are about the same age, all of whom have had say... An extra ten years to hone their skills on their respective instruments, and work on their performance, obviously DON'T have the same talent as an 18-year-old high school band.

:rolleyes:

[Unseen2k0]

While I disagree with him too, he does have the right to believe what he wants. I personally think he just worded it wrong, I think he meant Catch 22 had a chrisma that can't be matched, because it's obvious on a tech. level, they've all improved. The old Catch 22 and One Cool Guy team was very good to begin with though.

[Big Pimpin]

I was wondering if anyone has a BOTAR cd. I heard they only made so many

[Henrik]

wheir can I listen to/ buy some one cool guy stuff? I can't find it anywere.

[Kithkin]

i dnt think there's any way that streetlight will ever be as good as older catch 22.... they just don't have the same talent. when streetlight manifesto play catch 22 songs live, they sound crap..

You would have been about 13 when Thomas left the band. 13 year olds are rare at shows with national touring artists and essentially nonexistant at local shows. I know two people who have seen thomas with Catch 22 and both are older than me and big parts of the New Jersey ska scene at the time. So I am curious how you are able to compare SM's live to Catch 22's.

When SM play them live, they don't sound like crap, they sound live. They don't sound like they do when they are recorded because... well... they aren't in a studio doing multiple takes to get everything perfect.

[Jessizzle]

You would have been about 13 when Thomas left the band. 13 year olds are rare at shows with national touring artists and essentially nonexistant at local shows. I know two people who have seen thomas with Catch 22 and both are older than me and big parts of the New Jersey ska scene at the time. So I am curious how you are able to compare SM's live to Catch 22's.

When SM play them live, they don't sound like crap, they sound live. They don't sound like they do when they are recorded because... well... they aren't in a studio doing multiple takes to get everything perfect.
I went to a local show at 13 ? hah

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I saw them around age 13-ish.

[Henrik]

Is 1234-1234 not on the lp-version og keasbey nights, ore is it just interpunk who made a mistake on their site?

[the-UK-ska-scene]

I was wondering if anyone has a BOTAR cd. I heard they only made so many

Yeah I think they made 200 of the original, with artwork and stuff.
Then they probably made a couple hundred more with just the cover in, like Kith has, which they sent out with late Streetlight orders.

I don't have one.

[Kithkin]

I saw them around age 13-ish.

Stop contradicting me with your facts!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Hehehe.

[BassPlayer222]

i wonder if it is possible to hate old catch 22/streetlight manifesto/BOTAR

[Big Pimpin]

i wonder if it is possible to hate old catch 22/streetlight manifesto/BOTAR
I dont think it is possible, unless your deaf

[Jessizzle]

One of my preppy friends who likes.. Well bad music.. mostly what ya'd find on MTV.. She was like Woah Im feeling these horns.. I couldnt stop laughing.

[Kithkin]

Is 1234-1234 not on the lp-version og keasbey nights, ore is it just interpunk who made a mistake on their side?

I don't know how much music a 12" can hold but Keasby Nights, with 1234 1234, is about 46 minutes long. Its 39 without. So...

[the-UK-ska-scene]

I have the LP version, and it has 12341234 on it, however mine's quite old and I don't know if they've changed it on different pressings? Mine's not like first gen, it's clear with a splatter of pink on it.

[snowrocker]

I like them much more than last Catch 22's stupid piece of crap (album)...
I agree, they lost their lead singer, and its just not as...... catch 22-ish

[POINTLESS5448]

does botar have any more songs than the 5 on a cal to arms?

[Forest_Fire]

There's a song called "One Mississippi", but I don't know about it and I don't think anyone has heard it other than the band.

[Henrik]

How many original members are still in streetlight when they tour? I mean they've had so many changes. They started out with three guys from old catch and three from one cool guy right?

[ScuzzBucket89]

How many original members are still in streetlight when they tour? I mean they've had so many changes. They started out with three guys from old catch and three from one cool guy right?
yes, they did start out with that lineup, i wasnt aware that they changed it though.

[the-UK-ska-scene]

There's a song called "One Mississippi", but I don't know about it and I don't think anyone has heard it other than the band.

They tease it live. So I have heard part.


Original members of Streetlight who still tour with them... I'm pretty sure it's just the two. Tomas, and Jim Conti. But the new members are amazing, no doubt about it :D

[AIRIC]

going to see streetlgith again tonight! woot!

[3qtzDrunk]

going to see streetlgith again tonight! woot!
YES!!! Me too, who else is going??? :thumb:

[3qtzDrunk]

So I just got back from the show in Albany, Thomas said not only is Streetlight recording this summer, but BOTAR as well. Anyway, the show ruled like always, the floor was very slippery because people kept throwing water everywhere, and a really big fat girl crowd surfed on top of my head. She was wearing a tiny tennis skirt, and her massive thighs were on my shoulders, it was vile. Besides that, good times were had by all.

[Brain Toad]

Awesome to hear BOTAR recording, I am defintely going to try to buy a CD this time.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Playing here tomorrow, depending on if I want to drive and if I can get a ticket I'm going.

[AIRIC]

So I just got back from the show in Albany, Thomas said not only is Streetlight recording this summer, but BOTAR as well. Anyway, the show ruled like always, the floor was very slippery because people kept throwing water everywhere, and a really big fat girl crowd surfed on top of my head. She was wearing a tiny tennis skirt, and her massive thighs were on my shoulders, it was vile. Besides that, good times were had by all.

Yeah man it was a fantastic show. The water was pissing me off though. I was wearing a white Virus shirt, don't know if you saw me. Great to hear BOTAR is going to be recording. And we got an encore, awesome!

[ScuzzBucket89]

Yeah man it was a fantastic show. The water was pissing me off though. I was wearing a white Virus shirt, don't know if you saw me. Great to hear BOTAR is going to be recording. And we got an encore, awesome!
ahaa i also was at that show, one of the best shows iv been too, i was the kid in plaid shorts and had a specials shirt on

[ScuzzBucket89]

i must say, i wasnt a huge fan of Folly

[3qtzDrunk]

I was one of 3 people wearing the same **** Social Distortion shirt. I didnt show up early enough to see Folly. I saw this same show in Providence, and Whole Wheat Bread was a lot better this time around, those guys arent half bad.

[ScuzzBucket89]

I was one of 3 people wearing the same **** Social Distortion shirt. I didnt show up early enough to see Folly. I saw this same show in Providence, and Whole Wheat Bread was a lot better this time around, those guys arent half bad.
haha ya their bassist is crazy

[AIRIC]

ahaa i also was at that show, one of the best shows iv been too, i was the kid in plaid shorts and had a specials shirt on


Yeah man I saw you!

[ScuzzBucket89]

was it just me or did that place smell horribly

[Kithkin]

Any venue where a bunch of kids sweating and dancing is going to smell.

[gastery6]

But what if they all wore some good deoderant???????

What then.

[SantaDuJuan]

But what if they all wore some good deoderant???????

What then.


Get AIDs.


What then.

[AIRIC]

was it just me or did that place smell horribly


No. It's an absolutely disgusting place. Did you go in the bathrooms? My girlfriend said that the toilet was over flowed and she stepped in it in sandle type shoes.

[Jessizzle]

I hate having sweaty kids all dancing up in my space.
Its Yucky.

[AIRIC]

Yeah. Drenched shirts are gross. But I love skanking with a bunch of kids, because you can just put your arm around some random person and be friends with them. Taht's my favorite part about shows. UNITY, AS ONE STAND TOGETHER.

[Jessizzle]

Yeah. Drenched shirts are gross. But I love skanking with a bunch of kids, because you can just put your arm around some random person and be friends with them. Taht's my favorite part about shows. UNITY, AS ONE STAND TOGETHER.
Truth. unless they suck at skanking..

[SantaDuJuan]

Yeah. Drenched shirts are gross. But I love skanking with a bunch of kids, because you can just put your arm around some random person and be friends with them. Taht's my favorite part about shows. UNITY, AS ONE STAND TOGETHER.

Hahaha.

Anywho, I downloaded some Bands of...


I like it.

[gastery6]

Get AIDs.


What then.
Comite suicide

[Brain Toad]

Comite suicide

Take spelling classes

[Jessizzle]

Take spelling classes
Its Hard To Spell Ok!

[sketchyjoe]

Its Hard To Spell Ok!
O.K.


It's not that hard.

[Shtein]

Okay...

[Jessizzle]

O.K.


It's not that hard.
I hate your little word games..
<3

[3qtzDrunk]

As disgusting as Saratoga Winners can be at times, I still love it. I like to drive around the northeast U.S. to go to different shows, and Winners is still one of my favorite places. Toads Place in New Haven CT is awesome as well. As far as the smell, it might have something to do with the large landfill that is located about a mile down the road. There is a huge methane torch that blows off excess gas and makes the area around the club smell like sulfur. On certin nights, where the wind is blowing just right, the stench will make it into the place. Other than that, I think it smells like any other place with a bunch of sweaty people would.

[johniecid]

im sure this has been asked...but there are 27 pages and im too lazy to go through...but does anyone have the bandits album they could send to me or post online somewhere since the links on their site to download it dont work?

[Henrik]

Their is a new video for download on punkrockvids.com new catch playing 9mm And A 3 Piece Suit. An okay performance by the musicians but I really don't like the lead singer. And the bassist looks funny. :lol:

[gastery6]

im sure this has been asked...but there are 27 pages and im too lazy to go through...but does anyone have the bandits album they could send to me or post online somewhere since the links on their site to download it dont work?
Download it of limewire, kazza, soulseek, whatever you got

[Unseen2k0]

im sure this has been asked...but there are 27 pages and im too lazy to go through...but does anyone have the bandits album they could send to me or post online somewhere since the links on their site to download it dont work?

http://www.skachilles.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3849

You're welcome.

Edit: Ugh, I watched the new Catch 22 playing 9mm and a 3 piece suit and it just annoyed me. I mean, musically, it sounds decent considering it's live, but I wish they'd quit playing Tomas's songs. They need to get known for their own material.

[3qtzDrunk]

Well, since im bored, and I thought people may find it interesting, my friend was good enough to get me a Victory Records magazine when she went to bamboozle. There were interviews with pretty much every band on the label, and in the Catch 22 interview, the guy asked Kevin the trumpet player about any animosity between Thomas and the remaining Catch 22 members. This is it word for word:

Interviewer: Now, I hate to bring this up, but im curious. Ive heard rumors of bad blood between the current crew (of Catch 22) and Thomas Kalnoky, now of Streetlight, is there truth to that?

Kevin: At the time Tom quit...um...I hate it when pepole say 'he left on good terms,' because as far as im concerned, unless the person is sick or they have a wierd situation, for the most part people dont leave bands on good terms, because if its good terms, they wouldent freakin leave, you know what I mean? It was ****ty when he left and theres a lot of comparisons with the newer lineup to the older lineup and naturally it frustrated a lot of us. I think most of the bad blood was blown out of proportion, i dont really think it was anything 'real deal.' As of right now, to be honest with you, our relationship hasnt been better in five years. Im actually working with his new band doing some booking for them, and some of the guys in our band have talked and sorted some stuff out. It was a tough situation when he left, we were all really hurt by it, but i think for the most part its all bull****.

[Unseen2k0]

That interview is a lot longer. I've read it somewhere before. There were 2 Catch 22 members in that interview.

[3qtzDrunk]

If you find it again, let me know where. There was only that part in the magizane I got, I would like to read the whole thing.

[TAND]

Can anyone recommend a good BOTAR cd, if I can find any. I have heard a lot about them but never actually their music.

[Kithkin]

All there is is a demo

http://skachilles.com/music/botar/

for free because it is out of print.

[Unseen2k0]

All there is is a demo

http://skachilles.com/music/botar/

for free because it is out of print.

I already posted that... :(

http://sinizine.net/main.asp?switch=2&prodasp=int_catch22

There is the rest of the interview, nothing else really relates to SM.

[Brain Toad]

I've recently acquired 3 SM bootlegs if anyone wants them on SLSK. Username is Brain Toad I think the skachilles site also has two of them under http://skachilles.com/music/sm/

[the-UK-ska-scene]

I have... 6 complete Streetlight bootlegs at the moment. I have no idea where half of them came from, though. I don't use any torrents or filesharing programs or anything...

I seem to acquire a lot of music on my computer without quite knowing where it came from :confused:

[cheeser_1]

^^post 666!!!!!

[Brain Toad]

I have... 6 complete Streetlight bootlegs at the moment. I have no idea where half of them came from, though. I don't use any torrents or filesharing programs or anything...

I seem to acquire a lot of music on my computer without quite knowing where it came from :confused:

There is a pirate ghost haunting your hard drive.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Nick are the bootlegs good quality? If so I are interested.

[Brain Toad]

Nick are the bootlegs good quality? If so I are interested.

I haven't listened yet, but they can't be absolutely horrible, the bitrates are normal and high.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Awesome, I'm getting on now.

[maco]

They tease it live. So I have heard part.


Original members of Streetlight who still tour with them... I'm pretty sure it's just the two. Tomas, and Jim Conti. But the new members are amazing, no doubt about it :D
Jim's not an original member. He wasn't on the demo. Tomas is the only original member left.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

The quality of those bootlegs is 'ehh'. A lot of volume problems, but still worth listening/listenable.

[Harper Only]

Catch 22 is one of my all time favorite bands. They are probably one of the greatest bands I have seen live.

[Unseen2k0]

Ha, the Smells like Teen Spirit Teaser was great. The quality isn't all too bad, and the video is fun to watch.

[lpsoxfan88]

Muchos thanks to whoever posted the links to the live SM stuff and the BOTAR stuff. Me love you long time.

[AIRIC]

Ha, the Smells like Teen Spirit Teaser was great. The quality isn't all too bad, and the video is fun to watch.


Yeah that was hilarious. They did something like that last week when I saw them. I can't remember what song though, some hard rock tune.

[Brain Toad]

Freebird maybe? That'd be f'ucking hilarious.

[Unseen2k0]

Well, I know Tomas is a Nirvana fan. In a BOTAR song he says "And KDC, you were much too young, and you changed my life". Kurt Donald Cobain. I'm a loser for knowing that. But I'm a big Nirvana fan.

The point of that is, it isn't surprising he'd pick a Nirvana song to do. But after they stop he said "I've wanted to do that since I was like 12".

[the-UK-ska-scene]

Yeah they played a bit of Nirvana one when I saw them.

One of the best quality shows I have is Detroit 2-5-05 (although I think the date is wrong), well it's pretty good quality anyway, and it's got Point/Keasbey Nights/Counterpoint on it.

Also the show at the Bottom Lounge 7/25/04 is pretty good. Apart from that, obviously the Rutgers show is good quality.

The Tunbridge Wells show is absolutely shocking quality (recorded by a dodgy mic on a mini disc player) but if you were at the UK tour you might be interested in downloading it because the setlist is pretty much a carbon copy of the whole tour, you know you might want it for sentimental reasons (I still enjoy listening to it).

If you've got the Streetlight Keasbey Nights video from PunkRockVids.com, I'm in the front row in the middle there, so you might see me. If you have the Duff Muffin video from there as well, I am most definitely standing at the front there, I am ashamed to say I am the only one not moving, haha. Small person in a Captain Everything! t shirt.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

captain everything are great.

From the streetlight vids on there they look like they're great fun live, i'm fairly disappointed to have missed them

[Henrik]

Well, I know Tomas is a Nirvana fan. In a BOTAR song he says "And KDC, you were much too young, and you changed my life". Kurt Donald Cobain. I'm a loser for knowing that. But I'm a big Nirvana fan.

The point of that is, it isn't surprising he'd pick a Nirvana song to do. But after they stop he said "I've wanted to do that since I was like 12".

Arhh thank you. I didn't understand what kdc stood for. actually I don't know who any of the persons are in that song, except van gogh.

[Unseen2k0]

Holden Caufield is a character in 'The Catcher in the Rye', and by "a character" I mean the main character. The book follows him around for a few days, and it's a f'ucking great book. That book has changed many peoples lives.

Hemingway- Famous writer, and pretty well known for being a dick. My favorite book by him is "A Farewell To Arms" but it's a downer book. He wrote tons though, many short stories aswell that you can find online.

Salinger was the guy who wrote "The Catcher in the Rye". That was his first novel, and he never published anything again. He wrote for the rest of his life(If he died- I honestly don't know, I've looked but can never find information on him) and never published a thing. After his books success, he became a hermit from the media.

Camus- Another writer, wrote things like "The Stranger", "The Plague", "The Rebel". Very good writer, he died in 1960 in a car accident driving to Paris. Some people say he drove off the road and killed himself. Honestly, I don't know. I could have the wrong person, all I know is I've read many books by Camus and he died too young.

[sketchyjoe]

Catcher in the Rye is a crap book. And Salinger is still alive.

[Unseen2k0]

Catcher in the Rye is a crap book. And Salinger is still alive.

What, did you not read the last two pages? Those are the only two pages anyone loves. I thought the overall book was good. The kid was fun.

I know one of Salingers kids put out a book he helped write a few years ago.

[Kithkin]

His daughter put out a book about living with her crazy father... if thats what you mean.

[Unseen2k0]

No, but maybe. I read an article about his daughter putting out a book and there was a small clip of an interview were she talked about her dad helping her with parts.

[Henrik]

Holden Caufield is a character in 'The Catcher in the Rye', and by "a character" I mean the main character. The book follows him around for a few days, and it's a f'ucking great book. That book has changed many peoples lives.

Hemingway- Famous writer, and pretty well known for being a dick. My favorite book by him is "A Farewell To Arms" but it's a downer book. He wrote tons though, many short stories aswell that you can find online.

Salinger was the guy who wrote "The Catcher in the Rye". That was his first novel, and he never published anything again. He wrote for the rest of his life(If he died- I honestly don't know, I've looked but can never find information on him) and never published a thing. After his books success, he became a hermit from the media.

Camus- Another writer, wrote things like "The Stranger", "The Plague", "The Rebel". Very good writer, he died in 1960 in a car accident driving to Paris. Some people say he drove off the road and killed himself. Honestly, I don't know. I could have the wrong person, all I know is I've read many books by Camus and he died too young.

Arhh Thank you, that makes the lyrics much more understandable to me.
I still don't understand what Tomas means when he sings "Hey their sallinger what did you do, just when the world was looking at you, to right anything that meant anything you told us you went through.
What does the last few words mean?

[Unseen2k0]

It's "You told us you were through" as in done. He never put out another book again.

[Henrik]

arhh, hehe so that's just me beeing a bad listener. thanks anyway. :lol:

[AIRIC]

I can't wait for the new BOTAR.

[johniecid]

Holden Caufield is a character in 'The Catcher in the Rye', and by "a character" I mean the main character. The book follows him around for a few days, and it's a f'ucking great book. That book has changed many peoples lives.

Hemingway- Famous writer, and pretty well known for being a dick. My favorite book by him is "A Farewell To Arms" but it's a downer book. He wrote tons though, many short stories aswell that you can find online.

Salinger was the guy who wrote "The Catcher in the Rye". That was his first novel, and he never published anything again. He wrote for the rest of his life(If he died- I honestly don't know, I've looked but can never find information on him) and never published a thing. After his books success, he became a hermit from the media.

Camus- Another writer, wrote things like "The Stranger", "The Plague", "The Rebel". Very good writer, he died in 1960 in a car accident driving to Paris. Some people say he drove off the road and killed himself. Honestly, I don't know. I could have the wrong person, all I know is I've read many books by Camus and he died too young.


KDC - kurt donald cobain

[Unseen2k0]

KDC - kurt donald cobain

Not to seem rude or anything, but why did you bump this back up to post something as dumb as that? I already posted what KDC meant. 6 days ago.

[Unseen2k0]

Just incase anyone wants it, I have the Gimp CD on Soulseek now.

Tenpinster.

And for those of you who aren't strong lovers of this band like I am:
Gimp -> Catch 22 -> Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution -> Streetlight Manifesto.
Gimp was Tomas's first band, they were a punk band with a little ska, that later became Catch 22 after adding a trumpet(shortly followed by more brass).

[Jessizzle]

Chewy String and Gay P'orn All in one!!

[ScuzzBucket89]

i've been listening to streetlight manifesto for about 4 months and after falling in love with them, I decided to go out and buy Keasby Nights which I like just as much if not more then streetlights self titled album, does anyone know when streetlight is going to come out with a new cd or if catch 22 is gonna tour again after streetlights tour is finished? (i think they're still on tour)

what I meant to ask, is Thomas going to rejoin catch 22 for some touring

[Unseen2k0]

i've been listening to streetlight manifesto for about 4 months and after falling in love with them, I decided to go out and buy Keasby Nights which I like just as much if not more then streetlights self titled album, does anyone know when streetlight is going to come out with a new cd or if catch 22 is gonna tour again after streetlights tour is finished? (i think they're still on tour)

what I meant to ask, is Thomas going to rejoin catch 22 for some touring

Tomas is well out of Catch 22 and will never return. Streetlight is supposed to put out a new album around Christmas time this year. "Jan 2006" according to Victory.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I was going to SLM, but played poker instead. Must have been the 5th time I was going to see them and ended up not going to see them.

[Henrik]

Just incase anyone wants it, I have the Gimp CD on Soulseek now.

Tenpinster.

And for those of you who aren't strong lovers of this band like I am:
Gimp -> Catch 22 -> Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution -> Streetlight Manifesto.
Gimp was Tomas's first band, they were a punk band with a little ska, that later became Catch 22 after adding a trumpet(shortly followed by more brass).

Can't you please upload it in the YSI thread?? Which of the orginal members of Catch were also in Gimp? How many copies excist of that cd?

[Forest_Fire]

Happy Gimping (http://nshastings.myvnc.com/music/Gimp/Smiles%20for%20Macavity/)




Does anyone read the streetlight/botar message boards? You can read through 100 threads and still only learn about five facts. Apparently, the next botar album will be called 99 songs of the revolution, and might all be covers.

Unless of course, thomas uncharacteristically changed his mind

[Unseen2k0]

Can't you please upload it in the YSI thread?? Which of the orginal members of Catch were also in Gimp? How many copies excist of that cd?

I can't give you facts on this, and for that I apologize, but I will try. From what I've been told the core Catch 22(drums, guitar, bass) were Gimp. Tomas got bored with punk though, so they added a trumpet(Kevin?) and thought it sounded a little thin, so they added trombone aswell. That CD only had a very limited number of copies(Look at BOTARs first release).

Happy Gimping (http://nshastings.myvnc.com/music/Gimp/Smiles%20for%20Macavity/)

Does anyone read the streetlight/botar message boards? You can read through 100 threads and still only learn about five facts. Apparently, the next botar album will be called 99 songs of the revolution, and might all be covers.

Unless of course, thomas uncharacteristically changed his mind

Yeah, I do. There have been rumors of that CD name for a matter of years though. Tomas said in an interview(which I posted early in this thread I believe) that the CD will have 99 songs on it. No one is sure but him though.

[Riding_Downstream]

i've been listening to streetlight manifesto for about 4 months and after falling in love with them, I decided to go out and buy Keasby Nights which I like just as much if not more then streetlights self titled album, does anyone know when streetlight is going to come out with a new cd or if catch 22 is gonna tour again after streetlights tour is finished? (i think they're still on tour)

what I meant to ask, is Thomas going to rejoin catch 22 for some touring

You said streetlights self titled album, I thought they only had Everything went numb?
can someone clear this up

[Forest_Fire]

Yes, all they have is Everything Goes Numb. That's what he meant.





That GIMP stuff is actually good. I like it alot.

[Riding_Downstream]

Ska Pirate could yo upload the Gimp and BOTAR as a .rar on yousendit? the other site isn't working for me

[Forest_Fire]

Sorry, I can't

[Riding_Downstream]

ok thx anyway

[Unseen2k0]

http://www.skachilles.com/music

There is where I got my SM stuff.

[Forest_Fire]

What is mealticket anyway?


And that site is a lot faster than the one I gave. Plus it has a streetlight concert



edit: I have a stupid question. Who runs skachilles? Is it thomas's brother achilles?

[Unseen2k0]

Mealticket is a ska band from southern California. Was a band, I should say. SkAchilles hosted it for personal reasons and just sort of left it up... forever.

I know SkAchilles owns it, but 3 people(including him) pay for it. I'm not sure the relationship to SM, but I assume it's something stronger than a fan. It started when Tomas left Catch 22 or something, the members there went from Catch 22 forums to those and got to keep their post count(in May 2002). I believe SkAchilles real name is "Matt"(I think he posted that once).

[Brain Toad]

I'm listening to Gimp right now and it's pretty good, sounds like Catch 22 without the ska.

[Unseen2k0]

Gimp was probably just as good as Catch 22- I enjoy their version of "Supernothing" more than Catch 22's. But Catch 22 did do a lot more stuff by adding horns.

[ScuzzBucket89]

^ i think every punk band sounds better if you add horns, even when rancid came out with "Life Wont Wait" I thought that was better then alot of their earlier stuff

[Unseen2k0]

For whom it may concern:

I have uploaded "Rules of the Game" to SoulSeek - Tenpinster.
This was Catch 22's demo before KN. It has 2 songs that never made it to KN on it. Only a few hundred copies were made and they were cassette, so quality isn't perfect, but fun to listen to.

Have a good day.

[Forest_Fire]

and for those who don't have soulseek, it's right here:

http://skachilles.com/music/rotg


but soulseek is probably faster

[squirreleater]

anyone know where to buy BOTAR merch?

[Unseen2k0]

Right now you can't, they are redoing their webstore. But when it comes back up, go to www.streetlight.com --> Store --> Shop online.

There you are. (And for those of you who ask "Why not use www.acousticbandits.com and go to that store? Well, their link to the store doesn't work.)

[d-money229]

Gimp should be added to the title of this thread.

[maco]

Just incase anyone wants it, I have the Gimp CD on Soulseek now.

Tenpinster.

And for those of you who aren't strong lovers of this band like I am:
Gimp -> Catch 22 -> Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution -> Streetlight Manifesto.
Gimp was Tomas's first band, they were a punk band with a little ska, that later became Catch 22 after adding a trumpet(shortly followed by more brass).
BOTAR didn't really become SM. They're both just part of Risc. Tomas's little doodle explaining it all:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/soletsgonowhere/KalnokyProjectSpiderWeb.jpg

[Unseen2k0]

BOTAR didn't really become SM. They're both just part of Risc. Tomas's little doodle explaining it all:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/soletsgonowhere/KalnokyProjectSpiderWeb.jpg

Kid, what are you talking about? Are you a complete idiot? I HATE flaming people, I always try to use logic, but wtf? Are you being sarcastic or something?

Do you think Catch 22 BECAME Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution? Dear god, slap yourself!

The arrows were following Tomas from band to band, kid. He was in BOTAR who put out a demo, then he did Streetlight, who put out a CD.

What is wrong with you?

Edit: If you said that just so you could post something we've all seen(Or I'd hope- You may find your note there is about 4 years old) then just post it. You don't need a reason to post something related to Tomas.

[maco]

but tomas didnt leave botar for streetlight.

[Forest_Fire]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20500442&Mytoken=20050715124657

I found this interesting.

This incarnation of Gimp, is mainly for the sake being put in roles different than you are normaly put into. So, until we go record, you can hear the real gimp, then expect the new gimp to have a show in the near future, this is a one shot deal.

I guess some people in texas started a Gimp cover band?




edit: also, who did the original version of "One Tin Soldier"? I can't quite remember, and it's been bugging me.

[albert_bass]

Original Castle?

[alegolasg]

alright this distrubes me and i hope someone here can prove them wrong but i was looking on wikipedia at the stuff about botar and at the very bottom it said

"Their next CD, "99 Songs of the Revolution," will never be released. Ever."

please tell me that they have been missinformed

[ScuzzBucket89]

alright this distrubes me and i hope someone here can prove them wrong but i was looking on wikipedia at the stuff about botar and at the very bottom it said

"Their next CD, "99 Songs of the Revolution," will never be released. Ever."

please tell me that they have been missinformed
no one knows for sure yet, it is possible that it may never come out

[Johnny B. Good]

thursday i get to see catch 22 and reel big fish in concert!!!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

SLM is playing in Oct. Hopefully I'll end up going to this instead of like always doing something else stupid.

[RetiredAt21]

Where are they playing?

[Kithkin]

A bunch of cities.

[Kithkin]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20500442&Mytoken=20050715124657

edit: also, who did the original version of "One Tin Soldier"? I can't quite remember, and it's been bugging me.

Interesting...

I think its originally by Coven. Me First do a great cover of it. I learned it a long time ago in Church camp.

Gimps cover of it sucks though.

[Amish Pornstar]

thursday i get to see catch 22 and reel big fish in concert!!!

I plan on going to the show in Chicago's House of Blues sometime in
september

not on topic but i looked at listing at the House of Blues and Devo was playing a show :)

[KingOfSka]

Does anybody have the full Catch 22 - Dinosaur Sounds album they could upload on Yousendit? I already tried the YSI thread, but the only guy that has it has uploaded it twice, and it won't work on my computer. Thanks :D

[Shtein]

Eww, I hate that album. ill try and get it for you

[KingOfSka]

Sweet ***, thanks.

[TAND]

Does anybody have the full Catch 22 - Dinosaur Sounds album they could upload on Yousendit? I already tried the YSI thread, but the only guy that has it has uploaded it twice, and it won't work on my computer. Thanks :D
I'd rather just mail you the cd for you to keep. It is terrible. That is if you like the way Catch was around Keasby Nights.

[J_McMeaty]

I saw Catch 22 yesterday, and I give them credit. Theyre starting to get alot better. Half their set was newer stuff and the other half was Keasbey Nights stuff. I could have gotten a massive erection when they ended with Keasbey Nights had I not been crush the whole time.

[AIRIC]

I thought they were terrible live.

[J_McMeaty]

Theyre not bad. They have quite alot of energy, except the trombone player.

[AIRIC]

I think it's odd how the sax player does vocals.

[Kithkin]

I saw Catch 22 yesterday, and I give them credit. Theyre starting to get alot better. Half their set was newer stuff and the other half was Keasbey Nights stuff. I could have gotten a massive erection when they ended with Keasbey Nights had I not been crush the whole time.

Thats how they've been doing it for years now. Only before it was half Alone in a Crowd half KN.

So... you know, none of the songs were terrible.

[3qtzDrunk]

Ive seen them like 7 or 8 times, I think theyre great live, but they seem to play the same list of songs everytime, just in a different order, I would like to see them play somthing different once in a while.

[maco]

I'd rather just mail you the cd for you to keep. It is terrible. That is if you like the way Catch was around Keasby Nights.
haha same here. I have a burned one. Yuck. I just bought Keasby Nights last week though. Soooo much better.

[pedro durruti]

I think it's odd how the sax player does vocals.
Capdown does that

[Silvermedalmafia]

Capdown does that
True, but they do it well.

[Silvermedalmafia]

I think the New Catch 22 is terrible live. I downloaded a few videos and they are brutal.

[Da' Ska Man]

I think the New Catch 22 is terrible live. I downloaded a few videos and they are brutal.

the old catch 22 was so0o0o0o much better live, there was a lot more energy with tomas. im not as much into the 3rd wave im more into two tone, but botar has to be my fav 3rd wave band. there a group of some of the most talented musicians ive herd.

[SnazzJazz]

I looovee The old Catch 22. I'm absolutely infatuated with Streetlight Manifesto. And of course there's no denying the amazing talent behind BOTAR. I never heard of this Gimp thing until just now. Me likey that one too. I heard that Tomas Kalnoky wrote all the music for Here's To Life (The Botar version at least). True? Are there more songs he's single handedly written? I never get to see bands play live (besides local rock bands). I hate Hawaii with a passion.

[3qtzDrunk]

I looovee The old Catch 22. I'm absolutely infatuated with Streetlight Manifesto. And of course there's no denying the amazing talent behind BOTAR. I never heard of this Gimp thing until just now. Me likey that one too. I heard that Tomas Kalnoky wrote all the music for Here's To Life (The Botar version at least). True? Are there more songs he's single handedly written? I never get to see bands play live (besides local rock bands). I hate Hawaii with a passion.
Thomas writes everything, from the lyrics down to the drums and horn section parts. I guess that everyone gives input, and things are changed here and there, but he has the final say about everything.

[maco]

Thomas writes everything, from the lyrics down to the drums and horn section parts. I guess that everyone gives input, and things are changed here and there, but he has the final say about everything.
*Tomas...no "h"

[Forest_Fire]

On windows media player, it lists Thomas Kalnoky as the composer for Keasbey Nights, but Tomas Kalnoky as the composer for Everything Goes Numb.


/Pointless uninteresting post