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Let's Chop Cats!
04-12-2005, 09:05 PM
More or less accoustic SLM/C22. It's a bunch of people who all play electricless instruments. Along with general ska instruments there are violins and such. It's pretty good, I suggest downloading the EP.
Permanent Solution
04-12-2005, 09:06 PM
http://skachilles.com/music/botar/
YOu can d/l the EP here. There's also piano and stuff. Good stuff.
Unseen2k0
04-12-2005, 09:07 PM
Was it before or after SLM?
Brain Toad
04-12-2005, 09:09 PM
They came during/after SLM.
anarchy_revolution
04-12-2005, 09:14 PM
isnt BOTAR just streetlight but with a few more people in it, i.e. a violin player and stuff like that??
Let's Chop Cats!
04-12-2005, 09:15 PM
More or less. It's a colaboration of people all over the world if I'm not mistaken. I think they want any willing member who plays a non electric instrument that can add something to the band.
It would be cool if they worked on that project more.
Brain Toad
04-12-2005, 09:16 PM
Especially if they played live.
Permanent Solution
04-12-2005, 09:18 PM
More or less. It's a colaboration of people all over the world if I'm not mistaken. I think they want any willing member who plays a non electric instrument that can add something to the band.
It would be cool if they worked on that project more.
Yeah. They haven't updated the site in forever but they have a place you can apply to be in the band when the start their next project :)
TheNowhereman42
04-12-2005, 09:19 PM
they're a 12 piece, not bad
Brain Toad
04-12-2005, 09:19 PM
This thread made me put on the BOTAR album.
Permanent Solution
04-12-2005, 09:20 PM
they're a 12 piece, not bad
*14
TheNowhereman42
04-12-2005, 09:26 PM
you sure? coulda sworn it was 12
Permanent Solution
04-12-2005, 09:28 PM
http://www.theriscgroup.com/bandits/acband/images/photos.jpg
Count 'em :)
My favourite is kristina she dont know i exist. if u see someone called rego hes really anti ska slap him.
Brothel_Creeper
04-15-2005, 08:09 AM
no, Dead Pets are punk with trumpets (and put on an awesome show), SM are ska-punk
!
you've seen them? the dead pets that is
MACKIE_B
04-15-2005, 08:23 AM
There weak humans...
Jessizzle
04-15-2005, 09:44 AM
I Love em and all, but really there just a tad overrated.
Lentil&Ska
04-18-2005, 07:29 PM
I have been a big fan of the NJ ska. and i wanted to know if any one knew if Streetlight was working on a new albume since they finished the ska is dead tour.
guns_of_brixton
04-18-2005, 07:30 PM
/didn't know they were from Jersey
SantaDuJuan
04-18-2005, 07:31 PM
/one of my favorite bands
Forest_Fire
04-18-2005, 07:33 PM
A better question is, when is BOTAR doing more stuff? The site was last updated December '03, and says, upsate soon
Anti-Prefix
04-18-2005, 07:34 PM
Awesome band. However they've been on a bunch of tours recently, so don't expect one TOO soon.
We Are The Few is their best song.
lynch_me
04-18-2005, 07:38 PM
Too many threads on them.
guns_of_brixton
04-18-2005, 07:41 PM
A better question is, when is BOTAR doing more stuff? The site was last updated December '03, and says, upsate soon
Who is BOTAR? :confused:
Forest_Fire
04-18-2005, 07:44 PM
BANDITS OF THE ACOUSTIC REVOLUTION
duh
Brain Toad
04-18-2005, 07:45 PM
Too many threads on them.
I concur
Jessizzle
04-18-2005, 07:47 PM
Too many threads on them.
123
But I Still love em.
guns_of_brixton
04-18-2005, 07:48 PM
BANDITS OF THE ACOUSTIC REVOLUTION
duh
:confused: I've never heard of them.
Forest_Fire
04-18-2005, 07:50 PM
you bastard
http://skachilles.com/music/botar/
Jessizzle
04-18-2005, 07:55 PM
So its like Catch 22 Acoustic Style ? Coolness
POINTLESS5448
04-18-2005, 08:02 PM
for their new album theyre redoing keasby nights.
AChildAndHerLawnMower
04-18-2005, 08:11 PM
you bastard
http://skachilles.com/music/botar/
The cover of Dear Sergio is awesome. The singer sounds pretty similar to the Catch 22 singer.
TheBouncingSoul
04-18-2005, 08:15 PM
/me likes SM
Forest_Fire
04-18-2005, 08:16 PM
The cover of Dear Sergio is awesome. The singer sounds pretty similar to the Catch 22 singer.
Yeah, the same way the Streetlight Manifesto singer sounds a lot like the Catch 22 singer
Let's Chop Cats!
04-18-2005, 08:18 PM
They're good. Been talked to death in here. Nothing new to say untill they put out new material or something.
Nothing has been announced that they are rerecording Keasby nights.
pedro durruti
04-18-2005, 08:23 PM
It should be out in the next couple months
AChildAndHerLawnMower
04-18-2005, 08:30 PM
Yeah, the same way the Streetlight Manifesto singer sounds a lot like the Catch 22 singer
Ohh. He's the same.
I like SM, but I reckon Catch 22 are better. Only slightly, but still.
skankinBassist
04-18-2005, 09:10 PM
http://www.victoryrecords.com/StartFrameset.asp
Keasbey Nights II- August 9
No more asking when their new album is out... there you f'ucking go!
AIRIC
04-18-2005, 09:11 PM
They're good. Been talked to death in here. Nothing new to say untill they put out new material or something.
Nothing has been announced that they are rerecording Keasby nights.
Well the new album is called Keasby Nights II.
www.victoryrecords.com
Go to upcoming releases or something.
Forest_Fire
04-18-2005, 09:14 PM
Didn't they say somehwere that keasby nights is going to be a trilogy? and that this is the second part?
/circulates rumors
Let's Chop Cats!
04-18-2005, 09:19 PM
Well the new album is called Keasby Nights II.
www.victoryrecords.com
Go to upcoming releases or something.I know, I'm just saying nothing has been announced they are rerecording it.
Brendan
04-18-2005, 09:22 PM
lmao
streetlight is one of my favorite bands for sure. i want to see some more BOTAR action but anything from that group of people would be fine. definately cant wait for the new cd, but release dates are always being pushed back.
skankinBassist
04-18-2005, 09:24 PM
lmao
streetlight is one of my favorite bands for sure. i want to see some more BOTAR action but anything from that group of people would be fine. definately cant wait for the new cd, but release dates are always being pushed back.
If anyone was listening to Tomas on this year's Ska Is Dead II, he said BOTAR will be recording something eventually. Just be patient, talking about all these releases won't make them hit shelves any sooner.
Brendan
04-18-2005, 09:28 PM
yeah i saw them on the ska is dead II tour and i heard him mention something about that and i talked to the bassist about keasby nights 2. its just really frustrating because they are so good and im so impatient
Lentil&Ska
04-18-2005, 09:54 PM
hot thanks for the info. looks like there will be a new streetlight and a new Botar
(top 2 3ed wave ska bands) coming out befor next year. hot thanks for your help im going to bed
Let's Chop Cats!
04-19-2005, 01:56 PM
As some of you might know Streetlight when they play Point/Countpoint live they play keasby Nights in the middle of it. There have been live mp3 floatinf around, but last night I was bored and decided to put together a botched recorded version using the 2 cd's.
So here it is to my botched edit of Point/Keasby Nights/Counterpoint.
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1AT0O372NT9HU0M34GPXDFTR4H
skankinBassist
04-19-2005, 03:05 PM
haha! Dude, you are awesome.
3qtzDrunk
04-19-2005, 05:42 PM
this is from streetlights website:
the whole "2" debacle is half truth, half fiction. very few people know what actually is going down and those people, ironically, are the only ones keeping quiet. people will speculate and talk trash regardless, so be it. at the end of the day, we're simply doing something we believe in, a part of a whole that won't be entirely unveiled for quite some time. everyone sit tight, it'll all come together eventually, then you can judge.
this we can tell you:
a) there are no numbers involved. don't even ask how that happened, it's ridiculous
b) no new songs, really. but you'll be surprised, hopefully pleasantly.
c) we're doing this to prevent you from spending money unnecessarily. you'll understand that soon as well.
d) trust us. we try to do the right thing as much as possible, and our number one priority, as always, is the music.
Brain Toad
04-19-2005, 05:57 PM
Good job on that song Reiner.
skankinBassist
04-19-2005, 06:06 PM
the "surprises" are probably "point/keasbey nights/counterpoint", the BOTAR version of "Dear Sergio" (electric, though), maybe another more evolved version of "1234 1234" and/or "Giving Up Giving In", possibly a longer bass solo in "Walking Away", maybe a longer version of "Riding the Fourth Wave" with more solos and possibly a bridge, and most likely a better guitar solo in "Kristina".
Well, that's what i think is going to happen. I may be right, i may be wrong. But i would like to hear those things happen.
lynch_me
04-19-2005, 06:08 PM
this is from streetlights website:
the whole "2" debacle is half truth, half fiction. very few people know what actually is going down and those people, ironically, are the only ones keeping quiet. people will speculate and talk trash regardless, so be it. at the end of the day, we're simply doing something we believe in, a part of a whole that won't be entirely unveiled for quite some time. everyone sit tight, it'll all come together eventually, then you can judge.
this we can tell you:
a) there are no numbers involved. don't even ask how that happened, it's ridiculous
b) no new songs, really. but you'll be surprised, hopefully pleasantly.
c) we're doing this to prevent you from spending money unnecessarily. you'll understand that soon as well.
d) trust us. we try to do the right thing as much as possible, and our number one priority, as always, is the music.
That doesn't even make any sense. What are they reffering to?
skankinBassist
04-19-2005, 06:10 PM
i guess the CD. About the "II" and what songs are actually on it.
3qtzDrunk
04-19-2005, 06:29 PM
i guess the CD. About the "II" and what songs are actually on it.
im guessing that too. its even up on victorys site as keasbey nights 2, but streetlight is saying that all this ''2'' stuff is BS. it seems their own label dosent even know what they are up to, wierd...
im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike
3qtzDrunk
04-19-2005, 07:39 PM
im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike
huh???
TheNowhereman42
04-19-2005, 08:08 PM
im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike
uh, don't think so
supercoolguy
04-19-2005, 08:21 PM
As some of you might know Streetlight when they play Point/Countpoint live they play keasby Nights in the middle of it. There have been live mp3 floatinf around, but last night I was bored and decided to put together a botched recorded version using the 2 cd's.
So here it is to my botched edit of Point/Keasby Nights/Counterpoint.
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1AT0O372NT9HU0M34GPXDFTR4H
thats awesome
Brendan
04-19-2005, 09:16 PM
yeah it is really strange how they are so elusive about dates and progress. i think they do it on purpose almost because it builds anticipation.
moment of silence and moment of vilence definately sound alike, what are you listening to? infact they were made to sound that way on purpose, hence the simaler titles.
sk8ska, what program did you use to make that mp3? i was thinking put like a second of space inbetween the songs and it would sound a little better. sounds pretty cool though, maybe a preview almost of what number 2 is going to sound like?
Let's Chop Cats!
04-19-2005, 09:19 PM
Audacity, you can find it for free at www.download.com
obese_breasts
04-20-2005, 12:13 AM
Too all you talking about the new record, I do recall SM saying not to trust anything unless it is on their site.
Great band and nice job reiner.
SickBoy
04-20-2005, 01:36 PM
im seeing them on saturday apparently
skankinBassist
04-20-2005, 02:59 PM
im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike
Are you kidding me? They aren't going to punk out every song on Keasbey Nights.
And one more thing. Those two songs have the EXACT SAME chord progression. The only difference= it's distorted and faster.
Scabies
04-20-2005, 03:54 PM
a better place, a better time is such an amazing song.
IHeartDisco
04-20-2005, 04:10 PM
I love Streetlight. Going to see them Monday in London! No they arent working on a new album as they are touring Europe atm, but Im sure they might after the tour is finished
Jessizzle
04-20-2005, 04:15 PM
Theres so many of SLM threads, but Its an amazing band none the less, But for the past couple weeks iv been into Catch 22 more... The one thing i dont get is that some people seem to think eveything after c/22 's first album was crap, but then SLM is the greatest thing to ever happen to ska.
skankinBassist
04-20-2005, 05:01 PM
Theres so many of SLM threads, but Its an amazing band none the less, But for the past couple weeks iv been into Catch 22 more... The one thing i dont get is that some people seem to think eveything after c/22 's first album was crap, but then SLM is the greatest thing to ever happen to ska.
SLM didnt really do anything to ska. They aren't really a ska band. And Tomas was an incredible creative force for Catch 22. So when he left, yes, everything Catch 22 did after that sucked. Except for "Alone in the Crowd".
Jessizzle
04-20-2005, 05:27 PM
Im Just saying what I Hear, personally i like it all.
3qtzDrunk
04-20-2005, 05:45 PM
SLM didnt really do anything to ska. They aren't really a ska band. And Tomas was an incredible creative force for Catch 22. So when he left, yes, everything Catch 22 did after that sucked. Except for "Alone in the Crowd".
I hate it when a band puts out an amazing first album and everyone says that everything after that is crap. I see it with catch 22, Dropkick Murphys, buch of other bands too. Its probably not even fair to compare their other albums to Keasbey, that became a classic immeaditley, but Alone In A Crowd is still a very very very good cd. And as far as Dinosaur Sounds goes, everyone is getting on Ryan saying he is a horrible song writer, but he wrote a lot of the songs from AIAC. Personally, i still like Dinosaur Sounds, but everyone is writing them off too quickley i think, bands do put out albums that not everyone thinks is amazing, and they are still an incredible live band.
SantaDuJuan
04-20-2005, 06:12 PM
SLM didnt really do anything to ska. They aren't really a ska band. And Tomas was an incredible creative force for Catch 22. So when he left, yes, everything Catch 22 did after that sucked. Except for "Alone in the Crowd".
No one likes you anymore. :angry:
Jessizzle
04-20-2005, 06:15 PM
Haha i missed that, so how are they not a ska band?
skankinBassist
04-20-2005, 06:21 PM
Haha i missed that, so how are they not a ska band?
Not very many upbeats on the guitar. The bass lines are very complicated. They play some straight forward distorted guitar stuff. Etc.
Jessizzle
04-20-2005, 06:22 PM
So, Its Third wavee.?? ( Claiming to be 4th) Its Still Ska.
skankinBassist
04-20-2005, 06:24 PM
Bah! Not in my book. But what the hell! They are still in my top 5 favorite bands!
SantaDuJuan
04-20-2005, 07:29 PM
Not very many upbeats on the guitar. The bass lines are very complicated. They play some straight forward distorted guitar stuff. Etc.
:rolleyes:
N3rd.
Kithkin
04-20-2005, 08:11 PM
I hate it when a band puts out an amazing first album and everyone says that everything after that is crap. I see it with catch 22, Dropkick Murphys, buch of other bands too. Its probably not even fair to compare their other albums to Keasbey, that became a classic immeaditley, but Alone In A Crowd is still a very very very good cd. And as far as Dinosaur Sounds goes, everyone is getting on Ryan saying he is a horrible song writer, but he wrote a lot of the songs from AIAC. Personally, i still like Dinosaur Sounds, but everyone is writing them off too quickley i think, bands do put out albums that not everyone thinks is amazing, and they are still an incredible live band.
The difference between catch 22 and those other bands is that Catch lost its voice and creative force. Catch 22 post Thomas is a different band. They didn't just lose thomas either, they also lost the bassist ( i think). The only thing better about the new catch 22 is the horn section's skill. But that doesn't mean they write any better horn lines. Catch 22 didn't really sound like anything else before. And they maintained that in Alone in a Crowd. But Dinosaur Sounds sounds like a sublime cover bands writing their own material.
Let's Chop Cats!
04-20-2005, 08:15 PM
They lost their bassist (Josh Ansley) and their trombonist (Jamie Egan) to SLM with Thomas.
Then C22 later went on to lose 2 guitarists, a lead singer, and I think a drummer.
3qtzDrunk
04-20-2005, 08:33 PM
They lost their bassist (Josh Ansley) and their trombonist (Jamie Egan) to SLM with Thomas.
Then C22 later went on to lose 2 guitarists, a lead singer, and I think a drummer.
the drummer is still the same as they have always had, but im lost as far as them losing 2 guitartsts. I thought Pat came in right after Thomas left, was there one in betweet that im not aware of?
Let's Chop Cats!
04-20-2005, 08:42 PM
Comparing when I saw them they had a different guitarist. One time was maybe a year and few months ago and the time before that was like 2 years ago. It's possible it's the same guy and I'm just an idiot, but I don't remember them looking the same at all.
3qtzDrunk
04-20-2005, 08:46 PM
Yea true, i think he used to have long hair and a goatee and was really shady looking, but i think he just got a haircut.
metty16
04-20-2005, 08:48 PM
I hate it when a band puts out an amazing first album and everyone says that everything after that is crap. I see it with catch 22, Dropkick Murphys, buch of other bands too. Its probably not even fair to compare their other albums to Keasbey, that became a classic immeaditley, but Alone In A Crowd is still a very very very good cd. And as far as Dinosaur Sounds goes, everyone is getting on Ryan saying he is a horrible song writer, but he wrote a lot of the songs from AIAC. Personally, i still like Dinosaur Sounds, but everyone is writing them off too quickley i think, bands do put out albums that not everyone thinks is amazing, and they are still an incredible live band.
dropkick murphy's had more then one good album.
Blackout-has one or two good songs
Sing Loud, Sing Pround- awesome
Do or Die- good
Singles collections 1 and 2- Amazing
3qtzDrunk
04-21-2005, 04:10 PM
I wonder what happened between Thomas and the guys from Catch 22, you can tell from some of the songs that they really dont like eachother.
Brendan
04-21-2005, 05:55 PM
point out some examples would you? only thing i could see as being an example of that would be one of lines in a moment of silence goes "if you hate me so much then stop singing my songs"
Henrik
04-23-2005, 03:16 PM
That is also a good example.
3qtzDrunk
04-23-2005, 04:48 PM
point out some examples would you? only thing i could see as being an example of that would be one of lines in a moment of silence goes "if you hate me so much then stop singing my songs"
well, hard to impress could be one example, or rocky, ''it started with you, it ends with me'' I dunno, maybe im reading way into it, it just seems like there might be some kind of feud going on.
Kithkin
04-24-2005, 09:25 AM
"I would like to know. What did I do to earn your disrespect? An overrated importance of superior intellect. The words I say are not as big but does that mean a thing. I guess that I'll just stop. Trying to impress."
Those could be taken as directed at Thomas
"I look at you and wonder what you're thinking. And what you say when I turn my back to you. Your arrogance powers your ego. You say that I don't know you but I've tried and tried and tried and I don't know what you're thinking when you look into my eyes. "
Then that seems more like a girlfriend
"Is it positive or is it negative the trend. And it's funny the way you thought of me when I thought that we were friends. I'm glad it all worked out. The way I knew it would. I'm glad that I can stop. Trying to impress."
And those sound like they are for thomas.
Then from Guilty Pleasures:
"It could've been different if the frgaments of each sentence were reminiscent of a sing-along song I sang so long ago. And still I try to smile, and still I try to laugh, just to find that peace of mind. And you know I'm gonna get what's mine. So count me in. No, count me out, because it happended again. (CHORUS) Forget about apologies, I'm not a sorry kid. So sing along with me. Same song we used to sing. "
not as negative, but probably directed towards him.
stiff_little_fingers
04-24-2005, 10:22 AM
By far the best SML song is Failing Flailing
AIRIC
04-24-2005, 10:37 AM
I;m so lost on this entire arguement.
3qtzDrunk
04-24-2005, 12:06 PM
''ill bet they think we wished we joined when we could, but we do what we want we dont do what we should.''
pedro durruti
04-24-2005, 02:06 PM
"Turn up the radio can't quite hear"
The Adicts
AIRIC
04-24-2005, 03:00 PM
Yeah, definintely, Peter.
gttvc
04-25-2005, 05:39 PM
Well I'm a pretty big catch 22 fan. you know how on ares and limewire and all that there are songs that claim to be by catch 22, but really arent? "Shadow Boxing", "Room Without a View", "More than just a friend". Do any of you know who these are by and a website i could find more about this band with? they kind of rock.
Room without a view? Haha. Sounds like a rip-off to me. "I know guys, how is this for a chorus?"
Room without a view, can't see out
Room without a view, GET ME OUT GET ME OUT
EDIT: I changed the words, so it's funny HAHAHAHAHA
rockisdead
04-26-2005, 02:57 AM
blondie did a tune called room with a view but I dont really know catch 22 so i dunno if its the same song.
AChildAndHerLawnMower
04-26-2005, 03:19 AM
I'm not sure if it's the same ones becuase I haven't heard the covers but
Extreme- Shadow Boxing
Blondie & Gravity Kills- Room without a view
No idea about MTJAF though
cheeser_1
04-26-2005, 09:40 AM
Room without a view? Haha. Sounds like a rip-off to me. "I know guys, how is this for a chorus?"
Room without a view, can't see out
Room without a view, GET ME OUT GET ME OUT
EDIT: I changed the words, so it's funny HAHAHAHAHA
haha
Circle_Jerk
04-26-2005, 09:43 AM
Room without a view, can't see out
Room without a view, GET ME OUT GET ME OUT
I think i know that from somewhere, sounds like a good song.
AIRIC
04-26-2005, 11:52 AM
OpIvy probably?^^
martin_sane
04-26-2005, 01:14 PM
ha ha, owned yourself with your own avatar.
Rockafella
04-26-2005, 07:44 PM
Streetlight Manifesto > Catch 22.
IFlogMyMolly16
04-26-2005, 07:47 PM
ha ha, owned yourself with your own avatar.
I think he did it on purpose?
SantaDuJuan
04-26-2005, 08:52 PM
ha ha, owned yourself with your own avatar.
613 posts to many.
extremecorpralpunishment
04-27-2005, 11:14 AM
op ivy > streetlight manifesto > catch 22 but never equal to the toasters!
littlebeast
04-27-2005, 12:24 PM
It's no secret that songs on p2p networks are often mislabeled.
cheeser_1
04-27-2005, 01:29 PM
op ivy > streetlight manifesto > catch 22 but never equal to the toasters!
are you saying the toasters are better, or worse? you people are so terrible at mathematics. what do they teach you in school these days?
Henrik
05-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Does anybody in here own their cd?
How many copies do even exist?
IFlogMyMolly16
05-04-2005, 01:57 PM
Haha. Spelling/Grammar...who needs it?
Brain Toad
05-04-2005, 02:07 PM
I don't think he/she speaks english as their native tongue.
AIRIC
05-04-2005, 02:16 PM
I have it downloaded, it's great.
Henrik
05-04-2005, 02:22 PM
Haha. Spelling/Grammar...who needs it?
Sorry I don't speak english in my country.
But I understand 5 different languages, how many of you do that?
IFlogMyMolly16
05-04-2005, 02:24 PM
Sorry I don't speak english in my country.
But I understand 5 different languages, how many of you do that?
Haha sorry man.
I only understand 2.
Shtein
05-04-2005, 02:26 PM
Sorry I don't speak english in my country.
But I understand 5 different languages, how many of you do that?
Does Pig Latin count
if not i speak 3 languages
Jessizzle
05-04-2005, 02:58 PM
I love all three c22/SLM/botar
but i only own keasby nights.
And i can pick up a guy in 4 lanuages.
sketchyjoe
05-04-2005, 04:20 PM
I love all three c22/SLM/botar
but i only own keasby nights.
And i can pick up a guy in 4 lanuages.
Any girl can pick up any guy in any language.
skankinBassist
05-04-2005, 04:22 PM
I have an actual copy. Only 1,000 were ever printed.
Another Emo Kid
05-04-2005, 04:22 PM
Any girl can pick up any guy in any language.
*any attractive girl
TheNowhereman42
05-04-2005, 09:29 PM
Oh wow, I have a copy, I had no idea not many were printed.
AChildAndHerLawnMower
05-05-2005, 06:33 AM
I think their website awhile ago that I heard a lot of their tracks on...they were awesome
RetiredAt21
05-05-2005, 10:45 AM
They are really good. I had no idea their album was so rare.
ibackstabfor4d6dmg
05-05-2005, 12:54 PM
Yeah, I got a copy of it a while ago. They gave it to me for free.
It's really good.
albert_bass
05-05-2005, 12:57 PM
Sorry I don't speak english in my country.
But I understand 5 different languages, how many of you do that?
I can speak and write 3 different languages pretty well and understand a lot on French and Italian. Teehee!
And BOTAR are great and very original.
Brain Toad
05-05-2005, 01:21 PM
Yeah, I got a copy of it a while ago. They gave it to me for free.
It's really good.
Its you!
RadioBaby
05-05-2005, 02:23 PM
Is there any where to download the entire thing? I am highly doubtful that one of the albums would have reached my area.
Let's Chop Cats!
05-05-2005, 02:24 PM
They used to have the whole thing up on their site, but it's down now. I'm sure you can find it on google. Also P2P has it. Worse comes to worse I can upload it to yousendit.com for you.
RadioBaby
05-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Ok thanks, I will spend some time looking for it.
OMGaDINOSAUR
05-05-2005, 02:39 PM
Botar Nigga What!
Zappa
05-05-2005, 05:14 PM
This is where you will find their entire EP for download:
http://skachilles.com/music/botar/
Henrik
05-05-2005, 05:51 PM
They are really good. I had no idea their album was so rare.
Go to acousticbandits.com to see their explanation why they don't sale it anymore.
PunkyMcEmo
05-05-2005, 06:17 PM
yeah you need to download it. i heard streetlight manifesto is coming out with a new album this year. long live streetlight and BOTAR
the-UK-ska-scene
05-05-2005, 06:39 PM
Well Charlie answered your question. So I'm just here to say that BOTAR are amazing, one of my favourite bands.
Silvermedalmafia
05-05-2005, 07:06 PM
Yeah, I got a copy of it a while ago. They gave it to me for free.
It's really good.
It's backstab. Holy crap, when was the last time you were online.
Lentil&Ska
05-05-2005, 09:13 PM
Did you have to live in NJ to get a BOTAR CD?
Harlem Renosonce = NJ Ska Right now!
ya i have no idea how to spell renosonce
Lentil&Ska
05-05-2005, 09:20 PM
O and By the Power of the internet i know every language
Lentil&Ska
05-05-2005, 09:24 PM
Would you emo fans consider Dinosaur sounds by catch 22 emo/ska or what?
because im a big Catch 22 fan and there most resent albums have been a let down.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
05-05-2005, 09:25 PM
No!
Let's Chop Cats!
05-05-2005, 09:25 PM
In no way shape or form is there any Emo what so ever in Catch 22.
Dinosaur Sounds sucked.
skankinOstrich
05-06-2005, 12:01 AM
BOTAR> Streetlight.
Permanent Solution
05-06-2005, 12:04 AM
Did you have to live in NJ to get a BOTAR CD?
Harlem Renosonce = NJ Ska Right now!
ya i have no idea how to spell renosonce
Renaissance.
BOTAR will be accepting applications for members when they get together for their next project, I wish I didn't suck :(
albert_bass
05-06-2005, 04:20 AM
I wish I lived there.
(and I didn't suck)
ibackstabfor4d6dmg
05-06-2005, 08:45 AM
Its you!
What of it!?
It's backstab. Holy crap, when was the last time you were online.
I don't even know. I lurk around when I'm bored, but rarely ever post. Maybe I'll change that, I haven't really decided - it looks like the same topics from last year.
Let's Chop Cats!
05-06-2005, 01:19 PM
I wish I still played the piano, then I could be in BOTAR.
IFlogMyMolly16
05-06-2005, 03:05 PM
Sure Reiner, and if I still played violin I could be in Flogging Molly.
Let's Chop Cats!
05-06-2005, 03:08 PM
No you couldn't, they already have a girl violinist.
IFlogMyMolly16
05-06-2005, 03:12 PM
Yeah but she ruined her hand for a while.
Let's Chop Cats!
05-06-2005, 03:19 PM
Good, she was a bitch when a met them. So was the singer. Matt Hensley was chill though.
IFlogMyMolly16
05-06-2005, 03:50 PM
She didn't talk when I met them. Just signed my shirt. Dave was awesome.
sketchyjoe
05-06-2005, 04:58 PM
She wasn't there when I saw them but they dedicated a song to her as she was having an operation on her hand or something.
Brain Toad
05-06-2005, 05:52 PM
What of it!?
I don't even know. I lurk around when I'm bored, but rarely ever post. Maybe I'll change that, I haven't really decided - it looks like the same topics from last year.
You should come back, and start telling people to stop killing your bowling ball-ice cream truck joke.
RetiredAt21
05-06-2005, 05:57 PM
I've seen the bowling ball ice cream truck used many MANY times.
ibackstabfor4d6dmg
05-08-2005, 08:10 PM
Who used it? I'll break their legs.
pedro durruti
05-08-2005, 08:18 PM
I threw a bowling ball at a cip
sketchyjoe
05-08-2005, 08:23 PM
Who used it? I'll break their legs.
Who didn't use it.
RetiredAt21
05-08-2005, 09:53 PM
Yeah, pretty much everyone here has used it.
IFlogMyMolly16
05-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Yeah, even people who weren't here for the original usings. It's stupid when other people do it.
Lentil&Ska
05-11-2005, 08:35 PM
Ok I have been looking around and it seems that Posts with band names don’t get closed. I recently purchased a BOTAR hoody off line, and I have been waiting for a bit now and wanted to know if any one had ever bought any thing off there store and if they knew how long it should take?
.. o and discuss Streetlight.
Brain Toad
05-11-2005, 08:39 PM
tags dont work in thread titles.
And SLM rule, best modern ska band, ever.
Shtein
05-11-2005, 08:42 PM
My favorite ska band, best 3rd wave ska in my opinion.
BassPlayer222
05-11-2005, 08:53 PM
best 3rd wave ska band ever.....that's not an opinion....it's a fact
Jersey's Best Dancer
05-11-2005, 08:57 PM
i bought a streetlight shirt off interpunk and it only took a few days, but i dont know about directly from them. Oh yeah, they're great.
TurnPast15
05-11-2005, 09:43 PM
Ski mask CHECK!
Sawed off CHECK!
they ****in rule...
J_McMeaty
05-11-2005, 10:05 PM
I got a Streetlight hoodie from the Streetlight site. So it should come in like 3 or 4 weeks.
Unseen2k0
05-11-2005, 11:57 PM
I got a SM shirt off their website and it took about 5 days.
SM is one of the best bands I've ever heard, if not THE best. Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution just blows me away though.
Anarcho Poser
05-12-2005, 12:32 AM
1-4 weeks? What do they ship by, pidgeon?
Jessizzle
05-12-2005, 03:04 PM
I Lovve this band, Actaully i love all of the SLM/C22?Botar They are one of my favourite ska bands. and their songs are always stuck in my head.
anarchy_revolution
05-12-2005, 03:08 PM
as a matter of fact i am listening to them right now. and i ordered a C22 hoodie off merchnow.com once and it took like 7 or 8 work days to get
albert_bass
05-12-2005, 03:09 PM
You never get tired of this band. Amazing.
iplaybass9340
05-12-2005, 03:13 PM
Streetlight Manifesto is awsome. Love the bass lines.
albert_bass
05-12-2005, 03:19 PM
Love the bass lines.
You have to.
Oi_addict
05-12-2005, 03:20 PM
Yeah catch 22 and SLM are amazing ska bands but now catch 22 suck so i'm liking more SLM But i don't know wich one i preffer SLM or old catch 22 but they shure both skank some ***.
|V|3Tallica !
05-12-2005, 03:25 PM
i must agree with you they rulz!
the drummer is a ******ing machine
me and my band are playing with the on june 6 her ein montreal! cant wait!
sweboy
05-12-2005, 03:26 PM
They are, as you kids put it these days, the ****.
Oi_addict
05-12-2005, 03:26 PM
Really, i did not know they were playing june 6th, well i will shure be there, where is it?La shop? sallaburry?
BassPlayer222
05-12-2005, 04:23 PM
Streetlight Manifesto is awsome. Love the bass lines.
there bass lines kick as*s
taztonik
05-12-2005, 05:21 PM
hey ive got a question. does anybody know what the name of that song that they play near the end of "if and when we rise again." someone said that it was some jewish folk song. can anybody tell me the name of it?
skankinBassist
05-12-2005, 05:50 PM
I ordered a BOTAR hoodie from their site... i had to e-mail them twice, and in 2 months i got it. They felt bad so they also sent me an autographed poster with Tomas' autograph.
skankinBassist
05-12-2005, 05:52 PM
hey ive got a question. does anybody know what the name of that song that they play near the end of "if and when we rise again." someone said that it was some jewish folk song. can anybody tell me the name of it?
There are two different little songs that they play near the end. Is it the first or the one closest to the end? (either way: i dont know either of them).
Iron Bug
05-12-2005, 05:53 PM
hey ive got a question. does anybody know what the name of that song that they play near the end of "if and when we rise again." someone said that it was some jewish folk song. can anybody tell me the name of it?
Hungarian Dance Song No 5.
taztonik
05-12-2005, 06:00 PM
Hungarian Dance Song No 5.
sweet... much thanks
POINTLESS5448
05-12-2005, 06:10 PM
slm: amazing
c22: kick ***
botar: never heard them
are they jsut acoustic? im guessing they are by the name and i dont like acoustic that much so are they worth listening to??
Let's Chop Cats!
05-12-2005, 06:11 PM
yes, very much worth it.
The idea behind the band is everyone plays instruments that do not require electricity.
POINTLESS5448
05-12-2005, 06:43 PM
sounds cool, ill give them a listen.
metty16
05-12-2005, 08:45 PM
Weren;t they thinking of making a official thread for SLM
Johnny B. Good
05-12-2005, 08:46 PM
they should make one
Let's Chop Cats!
05-12-2005, 08:48 PM
We could, but these threads don't come up a whole lot. We get one or the other maybe every month or two. It could be done though, I wouldn't complain a whole lot.
Jessizzle
05-12-2005, 08:49 PM
Ugh we dont want to be like R&M now do we?
Brain Toad
05-12-2005, 08:49 PM
Dunno if one is needed, not many threads being made about them at the moment. And look at the other official threads, fell off the first page, except The Clash, because they are whores.
victheskibum
05-12-2005, 10:09 PM
Which do you prefer catch 22 or SLM? i perosnally love SLM but i just want to know what most people think.
|V|3Tallica !
05-12-2005, 10:42 PM
Really, i did not know they were playing june 6th, well i will shure be there, where is it?La shop? sallaburry?
La Shop :thumb:
Rockafella
05-15-2005, 06:50 PM
Which do you prefer catch 22 or SLM? i perosnally love SLM but i just want to know what most people think.
Streetlight Manifesto is alot like old Catch 22.
Old Catch 22 > New Catch 22
Thus, E = M*5 + 89 - 9.3/2 = Streetlight Manifesto is better.
Paul !!!
05-15-2005, 07:37 PM
I ordered a BOTAR hoodie from their site... i had to e-mail them twice, and in 2 months i got it. They felt bad so they also sent me an autographed poster with Tomas' autograph.
Was it the one with the guy and the baseball bat? with the little girl in it?
I ordered a hoodie from them and it took about 2 1/2 months to get, they sent me the poster as well. I order from interpunk now, cause it comes within a week
i against i
05-16-2005, 02:41 PM
One Cool Guy was better.
And I think Flaming Tsunamis are better then Streetlight. SKACORE, WHAT!
Oi_addict
05-16-2005, 02:59 PM
Dunno if one is needed, not many threads being made about them at the moment. And look at the other official threads, fell off the first page, except The Clash, because they are whores.
So could we do a ska discussion thread instead, if you mix all the threads about op ivy(ska/punk), catch 22, streetlight, toasters etc.. it would make a good thread, wouldn't it? :confused:
Jessizzle
05-16-2005, 03:01 PM
We have one, it just died, someone bump it.
Oi_addict
05-16-2005, 03:11 PM
ok i will see where it's gone and bring it up!
ScuzzBucket89
05-16-2005, 05:47 PM
ahaa for all u slm fans out there, my friend's band is gonna open for them in saratoga winners, ny. my friend's band is a ska band called pinstripe mele and they put on the best local shows i've ever seen. I'll try to get some mp3's from them on here
nobody's hero999
05-16-2005, 07:42 PM
Strretlight kills! there the best ska band around!
IFlogMyMolly16
05-16-2005, 08:20 PM
Seeing them on the 31st if all goes according to plan...
bryce_the_cat
05-16-2005, 09:54 PM
Im seeing them for the second time june 8th
dereklatulippe
05-16-2005, 10:40 PM
Im seeing them for the second time june 8th
Im goin to that show to... its gunna be sooooo sick!
Majorthreat889
05-17-2005, 11:44 AM
I'm seeong them after that at the detroit show at alvin's. I can't wait
BOTAR> Streetlight.
i like both of them but personally i think that streetlight is better
Jessizzle
05-17-2005, 03:51 PM
C22>slm>botar
albert_bass
05-17-2005, 03:52 PM
^
So wrong...
Jessizzle
05-17-2005, 03:56 PM
Your Just Afraid of War.
sketchyjoe
05-17-2005, 03:59 PM
Your Just Afraid of War.
My just afraid of war?
albert_bass
05-17-2005, 04:00 PM
We can fight whenever you want.
Jessizzle
05-17-2005, 04:01 PM
I can Take You!
PunkyMcEmo
05-17-2005, 08:26 PM
streetlight rockkss. every part of that band is amazing. a lotta bands have one things theyre good at, but the ppl in slm are ALL amazing players.
but tomas kalnoky is the best lyricist alive.
uhh at the risk of being gay, whatre all your favorite streetlight lyrics? like one or two lines
Henrik
05-18-2005, 12:31 PM
Ski Mask *Check
Sawed of *Check
Guilty conscience fear of dead *check, check check
Not because of the lyrics it self, but the feeling it gives me listening to it.
Streetlight is amazing. Everything goes numb is properly the best album I own.
Besides Keasbey Nights, which albums do you think people who like streetlight should own?
just one more by mad caddies
albert_bass
05-18-2005, 03:36 PM
just one more by mad caddies
**** no.
It's very different to SLM and much more poppy. I can't think of any albums though.
it is kinda poppy but there is a few good songs but i like it
gastery6
05-19-2005, 06:09 PM
the cd is called "everything goes numb" not 'if and when we rise again" thought you might wanna know
Buzzbomb
05-19-2005, 06:28 PM
the cd is called "everything goes numb" not 'if and when we rise again" thought you might wanna know
Wow really?
Fallenvictim
05-19-2005, 06:29 PM
as a matter of fact i am listening to them right now. and i ordered a C22 hoodie off merchnow.com once and it took like 7 or 8 work days to get
ditto for the listening, I bought my no doubt shoes from merch, took about 10 days to get them
Streetlight Manifesto is awesome, my new favorite band infact. Also just a small request, could any one upload some Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution songs to yousendit or something, I can't find any stuff by them on Ares.
ibackstabfor4d6dmg
05-20-2005, 11:36 AM
I wish BotAR would release some new material. I'd go for that in a heartbeat.
Henrik
05-21-2005, 08:36 AM
Can anyone explain to me what the lyrics in "If and when we rise again" is about. I can't figure it out.
latvian_anarchist
05-21-2005, 11:35 AM
Yeah catch 22 and SLM are amazing ska bands but now catch 22 suck so i'm liking more SLM But i don't know wich one i preffer SLM or old catch 22 but they shure both skank some ***.
they should do a split record, have they already done one? if not, it would sell millions i tell you!!! hahaha
IFlogMyMolly16
05-21-2005, 06:12 PM
they should do a split record, have they already done one? if not, it would sell millions i tell you!!! hahaha
...
an emo inside
05-21-2005, 06:52 PM
best 3rd wave ska band ever.....that's not an opinion....it's a fact
id like to testify against that with catch 22. well back from keasbey nights era. after that they suck. but basically its the same.. couple of the same members. but i still like keasbey nights better then everything goes numb.
Henrik
05-28-2005, 05:57 AM
On www.victoryrecords.com it says that the remaking of Keasbey nights will be released at 01-20-06.
gastery6
05-28-2005, 07:23 AM
On www.vivtoryrecords.com it says that the remaking of Keasbey nights will be released at 01-20-06.
the site didnt work for me but i trus you
Iron Bug
05-28-2005, 07:29 AM
the site didnt work for me but i trus you
Thats cause theirs no such thing as Vivtory Records.
gastery6
05-28-2005, 07:43 AM
Thats cause theirs no such thing as Vivtory Records.
opps i just assumed that the spelling was right
albert_bass
05-28-2005, 08:00 AM
it is kinda poppy but there is a few good songs but i like it
I love that album but that's not what he asked.
Henrik
05-28-2005, 09:35 AM
opps i just assumed that the spelling was right
Sorry it works now. it is of course www.victoryrecords.com just copy to your browser.
gastery6
05-28-2005, 10:44 AM
another sweet band of victory records is "comeback kid"
Unseen2k0
05-28-2005, 11:33 AM
SM will be touring US for the next few weeks than hitting a recording studio, then touring more.
Firecracker
05-28-2005, 11:46 AM
My friend loves them.
slm is ****ing sweet. i think im seeing them on june 18th. at the stone pony. but i gotta get outta my hockey game first.
Let's Chop Cats!
05-28-2005, 04:59 PM
I might go to that show.
yeah.. most of the other bands are crap though. cause i listened to them at purevolume and they were mostly crap punk and some other stuff.
IFlogMyMolly16
05-28-2005, 05:07 PM
I still haven't figured out if I'm going or not and it's in like 3 days
haha. yeah i got umm somewhere around 20 days to decide.
SnazzJazz
05-28-2005, 06:21 PM
I LOVE Streetlight Manifesto. From the first time I ever heard Everything Went Numb i was hooked. It's just not how good it is, its the feeling that goes with it. I'm so jealoous of all of you having the option of going to concerts. I HATE HAWAII! The only thing I wish of them is that they make another album. I need to have more of this stuff!~
tbone1123
05-28-2005, 06:30 PM
well, ive never orderd anything off their site but they are very good, in my opinion everything went numb's got nothing on keasbey nights
cheap_sex
05-29-2005, 09:05 AM
they printed so few cds because they were all hand made and they coudlnt keep up with the demands, i own one
lpsoxfan88
05-30-2005, 02:42 PM
June 4, biotches.
Can't wait. Five... more... days...
metBANS
05-30-2005, 03:30 PM
June 4, biotches.
Can't wait. Five... more... days...
June 15th...
Was your show canceled like ours? I was so ready to go, when all of a sudden I got a phone call from the booking agent from the venue telling me to tell eveyone I knew that it was canceled... Arghh!!!
I really like their music, favorite song is Point/Counterpoint. Though I don't have high expectations for Keasbey Nights II because I think that the Catch 22 version could not be improved upon. And if it can be, not very humanly possible.
I did go to the Slackers on saturday though... the best sounding live band I have ever heard in my life. That is ranging from metal, to ska, to jazz, and to classical.
Best Ever...
Kithkin
05-31-2005, 03:20 AM
Going tomorrow.
I have more fun at Slackers/Toasters/Pietasters shows because the crowd is better. But I don't listen to those bands much unless a show is coming up.
The Catch 22 versions of songs could easily be improved upon. Thomas is a far better guitarist than he used to be, and the horn section is better. The horn parts for Catch 22 sound good but are very simplistic.
Also, if you don't think they can be improved listen to Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution's Dear Sergio and Catch 22's Dear Sergio. There is a huge difference.
albert_bass
05-31-2005, 03:33 AM
I still preffer the C22 version. The other is better technically but the original is awesome.
Kithkin
05-31-2005, 03:53 AM
The song never felt complete before. Now it does with the extra verse.
Other than the new verse and strings (and the acoustic bass and guitar) I don't think anything is different on the BOTAR version. But it still makes a huge difference.
Let's Chop Cats!
05-31-2005, 01:22 PM
While SLM if more talented Keasby Nights holds a significant value to me, so I like that album more.
sketchyjoe
05-31-2005, 01:32 PM
SLM are overrated.
Twat_Out_Of_Hell
05-31-2005, 01:33 PM
decent from what i've heard, some of the songs so8und great
albert_bass
05-31-2005, 01:40 PM
SLM are overrated.
No way. They're the most talented 3rd wave band. They get that. Besides I know more people who don't like them that people who like them.
4 like - more than 10 dislike
metBANS
05-31-2005, 03:36 PM
Really, the reason that I don't think KB could be improved is because SM has a different sound from Catch22. Not totally different where their remakes would be ****, but just different. I really like listening totheir originals anyways.
With the KB2 postpones and everything its kinda pissing me off too. Sometimes I'm thinking that they keep setting the date back so more people are thinking, "Man I really wanna listen to this... Its gonna be awesome when I can finally get it." When in reality it won't be much different. Seriously, if Thomas is so much of a better guitarist he should be writing other new, better, more intricate stuff. Not covering stuff that you can't change. Whats the point of a cover if you change it and make it sound better. If you cover somthing, the point is to play a song as best and close as you can compared to the original preforming band.
well... [/rant]
Cheers.
sweboy
05-31-2005, 04:19 PM
Whats the point of a cover if you change it and make it sound better. If you cover somthing, the point is to play a song as best and close as you can compared to the original preforming band.
What? Ever listened to the Specials?
Yeah, anyway, I haven't read the thread. The Manifesto rules. Move along.
albert_bass
05-31-2005, 04:22 PM
The point of a cover is not playing exactly like the best one. Then you'd have 2 songs that would be the same, and THAT would be stupid not the other way.
When you're playing a song the best you can to make it sound as the original it's because you're playing alone, not covering something.
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