The Official Streetlight Manifesto/Catch 22/BOTAR Thread

[lynch_me]

I'm sure they have their reasons.

[Flagjacket]

According to this forum ska bands are advised to center their touring schedules around playing Ajax/Toronto every two weeks.

[ZaaR]

According to this forum ska bands are advised to center their touring schedules around playing Ajax/Toronto every two weeks.

i just don't see why go through every major city in the US and not hit one canadian city.

[SkaRobotArmy]

they just did, it wasn't a canadian tour, they came here on nights off from RBF and LTJ didn't they? cause they love us so much?

[fathergoat]

Ajax is where it's at.

[Jessizzle]

no ajax sucks goddamit i hate living here! im thinking of moving to london or maybe even K-W area. in the next couple of years.


anyways back to my point, cant everyone just chill and actually listen to the album. without analyzing and juding every ****ing note. TAKE a step back and just moss to the music for a bit. honestly way to take the fun out of the music. Im sure most people will agree that this is a very good album, but why does everyone need to pick it apart, looking for fault. OF COURSE if you look hard enough you'll find fault in anything. The album probly took so long because theres people like you guys complaining that a couple notes were not PERFECTLY thought out with a deeper meaning behind it.

[lynch_me]

They're just observations as to what works and what doesn't.

[SkaRobotArmy]

its because the last one was so good the expectation were huge and i think some people were let down a little.

[fathergoat]

no ajax sucks goddamit i hate living here! im thinking of moving to london or maybe even K-W area. in the next couple of years.


Yeah, thats pretty much it. We need bands to come here or else we're stuck going to the gym or something I can't be bothered with. I am here til University, then hopefully I'll be in London.

As for the album, I was just expecting something different, not more of the same. I'll probably have to give it awhile.

[Catchthe22]

Judging music in depth is what separates it from mainstream stuff. It's why there is highly respected publishers like pitchfork, CMJ and even Rolling Stone. Hype can ruin an opinion at first so its good to really gather whats going on before we say its so awesome and its a classic. I think most will say that Somewhere in the Between is good but now we have to say why it isn't groundbreaking like we were hoping.

[Jessizzle]

Yeah, thats pretty much it. We need bands to come here or else we're stuck going to the gym or something I can't be bothered with. I am here til University, then hopefully I'll be in London.

As for the album, I was just expecting something different, not more of the same. I'll probably have to give it awhile.

I personally expected EGN 2 and thats exactly what it was, im so happy haha. the trick is, if you dont have high expectations, you wont get dissapointed!!

and do you live in north or south? i live in the village areaaish.

[Aficionado]

See jess, its called critical thinking. You gotta use it sometimes.

[Jessizzle]

Today my teacher actually said that deep down, i was a genius, im just not good at school and that sorta stuff.

[Liebensaft]

The album is growing on me. It's not mind-blowing at all, but it's still pretty cool. My list of qualms goes like this:

1. Some parts of songs just don't sound right where they are
2. Drums should be louder. Not so that it sounds horribly recorded, but just to make it more personable and reminiscent of their first album.
3. More variation in song structure. A lot of songs sound similar, and there's not much difference from EGN, which isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

[DougJI]

Am I the only one who sees massive difference between this and EGN?

[tom79]

I don't see a huge difference. EGN just has more better songs, but SitB is awesome as well. It's pretty much the ideal follow up I was expecting.

[albert_bass]

I don't know what the **** where you guys expecting. A totally different album than EGN? It is pretty different actually, only really similar song being Watch It Crash.

I truly think you were expecting way too much. I agree with Jess here, you don't need to have huge expectations because most likely it will ruin the experience for you. Hell, you even should be thankful they put out another good album. It's not a classic, it has hits and misses but what is classic these days? Where you expecting some kind of London Calling or what? I just don't get it.

[Aficionado]

I don't know what the **** where you guys expecting. A totally different album than EGN? It is pretty different actually, only really similar song being Watch It Crash.

I truly think you were expecting way too much. I agree with Jess here, you don't need to have huge expectations because most likely it will ruin the experience for you. Hell, you even should be thankful they put out another good album. It's not a classic, it has hits and misses but what is classic these days? Where you expecting some kind of London Calling or what? I just don't get it.

Now this.

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

This album is really growing on me.

We Will Fall Together is probably my favorite song ATM because I love the chorus. Some songs are not that memorable but overall, a great album.

[Flagjacket]

Can ska really go in any direction but similar to something someone has done before.

[DougJI]

Can ska really go in any direction but similar to something someone has done before.

people said the same thing about rock and roll 50 years ago.

[Flagjacket]

That doesn't make it true for ska which has been around for like 40 years already.

[Jessizzle]

but ska has changed so much.. from first wave to third wave??

[Flagjacket]

I was just making an observation based on how everyone is all "aww Streetlights album sounds like their last one"

[Jessizzle]

i dont see whats wrong with that though... if they did something diffrent everyone would be like aw man this album sucks, they shoulda just made another album like EGN...

but kev, i love you always <3

[SkaRobotArmy]

Can ska really go in any direction but similar to something someone has done before.

of all the genres i can think of, ska and metal are really the only ones progressing at all...

[Flagjacket]

i dont see whats wrong with that though... if they did something diffrent everyone would be like aw man this album sucks, they shoulda just made another album like EGN...

but kev, i love you always <3

I didn't say anything was wrong with it I haven't even listened to the album I'm just saying that people are all complaining that it doesn't differ much when I don't think it could really go anywhere else to begin with.

P@SkaRobotArmy: ..... really?

[ZaaR]

good album, just doesn't measure up to tom's other stuff.

[fathergoat]

and do you live in north or south? i live in the village areaaish.

I live off Delaney (near the Dominion off of Westney Road) and started going to Pickering High in 2003 . :chug:

[Jessizzle]

hhaha ****. ... why havnt you graduated yet?? and you live real close to me.. i live like in hermatige.. and i also go to pickering high.

[fathergoat]

I am in my extra semester. I graduated with an 80 average but needed calc and physics to get have better prereq's for Biochem.

What grade are you in?

[Surtr]

Ooo, Jess and Fathergoat meet up for sXe.

And so I've finally gotten to give this new album a listen, thanks to JumpThe****Up :) And I like it, it's good ****.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Yeah, I don't see why people are complaining that it's similar to EGN, I mean seriously, it's ska punk. How much variation can you actually get? For a genre that has a lot of repitition (Reel Big Fish lololol), this album is a breath of fresh air. I mean, most of the songs are different in their sound and it's easy enough to differentiate between the tracks from EGN and SitB, so why complain?

But yeah, the drums suck. That's pretty much the only negative.

[Surtr]

Yeah, I don't see why people are complaining that it's similar to EGN, I mean seriously, it's ska punk. How much variation can you actually get? For a genre that has a lot of repitition (Reel Big Fish lololol), this album is a breath of fresh air. I mean, most of the songs are different in their sound and it's easy enough to differentiate between the tracks from EGN and SitB, so why complain?

But yeah, the drums suck. That's pretty much the only negative.

I didn't really notice that much that's wrong with the drums, they're not awful or anything...? Or am I missing something here...

And yeah, my favorite tracks have gotta' be the last two, "The Receiving End Of It All" and "What A Wicked Gang We Are".

Both really cool songs, and they're sorta' different from the rest of Streetlights stuff, in the way that they're just a lot darker sounding.

[Kithkin]

Am I the only one who sees massive difference between this and EGN?

No, they feel completely different.

On the surface are the distinctive voice, the fact that horns don't have much variation in timber, he uses the same two guitar settings for everything and it's probably a similar drum kit and bass setup.

The songs drift between aimless and tight far more than EGN. The lyrics are less silly too. He forces words to conform to his rhythm on this album, rather than choosing words based on how they fit his songs like he did occasionally on the last one.

[albert_bass]

I don't feel what's so wrong with the drums either. I think it has to be with the drums on EGN being so ****ing awesome. Really, drumming in the first album was jaw dropping. Maybe that's why people complain about drumming in SiB so much.

Anyways I'm not a drummer, maybe one could explain us what they feel is wrong.

[SkaRobotArmy]

yea, it's a different drummer than the one who recorded EGN i believe so thats why. but its just that the playing isn't as awesome, its their low level in the mix just makes it feel less raw and energetic.

[AIRIC]

Yeah the drums are way further underneath everything else.

[albert_bass]

Well so far those opinions feel totally biased. I mean, the drums are low = the drums are bad? So what if they are low? It's not like they make the record sound any worse. The bass was very low in EGN and that didn't take away any awesomeness to it (the bass nor the whole album). Seriously, someone could give me a valid reason of why the drumming sucks in SiB?

[SkaRobotArmy]

it doesn't suck. he's still got great beats but thats all they are, just beats. in the first album they were more than that i could listen to the whole album and just listen to the drums.
but i agree about the bass, i think so far its louder on this one.

[AIRIC]

Yeah the drums aren't bad they just dont sound as good as they did before. They don't stand out.

[albert_bass]

Yeah well I completely agree with that. The drumming in EGN was more than great. It's just that seeing some comments here it made me think I wasn't getting something because some people said the drums suck in SiB.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Yeah, they don't suck, they're just lower in the mix than they were in EGN, and the drumming was part of what made EGN so awesome.

The Receiving End of It All is so ****ing awesome.

[Surtr]

Hmm, being a drummer I'll back up that yeah, they're not as high in the mix, which is usually done to try and hide some of the "boringness" of them, but seriously, it's some decent playing, just not as active. It's just not all together as musical as the previous album.

But FAR from sucking.

[DougJI]

The fade in intro of One foot in the gas is a reversed guitar, there is a quiet cymbal hit at the very beginning as well.

yah. i donno, i felt the need to proclaim this.

[Kithkin]

Beung a non-drummer, I thought they sounded better than on EGN.

[sweboy]

omg omg the new album is finally out?

[albert_bass]

omg omg the new album is finally out?

It's not out, but it leaked.

[Jessizzle]

the more i listen, the more i love it..

today i was listening, while reading the lyrics, and it made me like it so much more aswell..

real love grows over time!

[albert_bass]

That's happening to me as well. I'm at the point where everytime I listen to the album, I like it more than the last one.

[Surtr]

Mhm, I'd agree. It's some sweet ****, that's for sure.

[Anarcho Poser]

For me, it was love at first listen.

*swoon*

[albert_bass]

I loved it at first listen but I love it more and more everytime.

[Aficionado]

Ya the drumming was really great on EGN, but I imagine there's gonna be differences in the musicianship considering the change in band members over the past 4 and a half years. How's the bass this time around, seeing as I am a bassist.

[Henrik]

What is the exact line-up for this album?

Is there anyone besides Tomas that figures on both the new one as well as EGN?

I can't think of any other band that has changed their line-up in the same manner that Streetlight has.

[obese_breasts]

According to wikipedia the trombone player has been in the band for both albums, but other than that I don't think so

[Aficionado]

What is the exact line-up for this album?

Is there anyone besides Tomas that figures on both the new one as well as EGN?

I can't think of any other band that has changed their line-up in the same manner that Streetlight has.

It's common in a lot of ska bands.

[albert_bass]

Ya the drumming was really great on EGN, but I imagine there's gonna be differences in the musicianship considering the change in band members over the past 4 and a half years. How's the bass this time around, seeing as I am a bassist.

I haven't assimilated it (if you know what I mean) as much as the bass in EGN, but it's easier to listen and there's some awesome lines too. They feel quite similar except this time you can hear it all the time without too much problems. You know the kind of parts when you hear horns and guitar with distortion first and then the same horns but ska-ish guitar and a totally crazy bass line? I mean like in That'll be the day. Well, it's in here too.

[DougJI]

What is the exact line-up for this album?

Is there anyone besides Tomas that figures on both the new one as well as EGN?

I can't think of any other band that has changed their line-up in the same manner that Streetlight has.

after the initial hecticness the band calmed down quite a bit...
quoting an old post i made in this thread...

Stuart Karmatz left and was replaced by Paul Lowndes
Jim Conti took the place of Pete Sibilia.
Paul Lowndes left so Chris Thatcher joined the band as his replacement, and has been with Streetlight ever since.
On the album, Jamie Egan played both trumpet and trombone, but as he would not be able to do this live Mike Soprano joined on trombone.

Josh Ansley announced his departure to pursue an acting career. Chris Paszik performed in his place.

Egan left to spend more time with his family and concentrate on his music teaching job at North Brunswick High School in North Brunswick, New Jersey. Delano Bonner came in to play trumpet.

Dan Ross had planned to leave after the The Ska Is Dead 2 to pursue a business career, and was forced to leave early just before the end of the tour due to a family crisis. He has been replaced by Mike Brown.

Sometime between December 3, 2006 and July 3rd, 2007, Delano Bonner left the band. Sometime before the recording of Streetlight's new untitled album, Matt Stewart took over Delano's spot at trumpet.

(In order of departure)

1. Stuart Karmatz - Drums (no reason given)
2. Pete Sibilia - Tenor Saxophone (no reason given)
3. Paul Lowndes - Drums (left? no reason given)
4. Josh Ansley - Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals (acting career)
5. Jamie Egan - Trumpet/Trombone (family and teaching job)
6. Dan Ross - Alto and Baritone Saxophone (business career/family crisis)
7. Chris Paszik - Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals (not even mentioned)
8. Delano Bonner - Trumpet (no reason given)


Matt Stewart on trumpet (Joined July 2007)
Mike Brown on alto and baritone saxophone (May 2005)
Jim Conti on alto and tenor saxophone (was on EGN)
Tomas Kalnoky on guitar and vocals (was on EGN)
Pete McCullaugh on the bass guitar (????)
Mike Soprano on trombone (was on original touring lineup)
Chris Thatcher on drums (was on original touring lineup)

So I mean the only real changes in the past few years have been Matt Stewart, Pete McCullaugh and (2 years previous) Mike Brown. Everyone else has been around since EGN/their first tour.

Id probably put it on something to do with the horn players not being able to live off of what they were getting paid because Tomas writes all the song (little if any portion of album sales)
Streetlight isn't huge.
They support their own tours and recording and whatnot.

Plus I'd have to say I might be a little ticked if I didn't make the kind of money I was expecting... It's always about money.

[Aficionado]

I haven't assimilated it (if you know what I mean) as much as the bass in EGN, but it's easier to listen and there's some awesome lines too. They feel quite similar except this time you can hear it all the time without too much problems. You know the kind of parts when you hear horns and guitar with distortion first and then the same horns but ska-ish guitar and a totally crazy bass line? I mean like in That'll be the day. Well, it's in here too.

I think the bass work on Failing Flailing is top-notch

[albert_bass]

I think the bass work on Failing Flailing is top-notch

Yeah me too. I love it when it follows the drums roll then goes right to some cool scale at the end of it.

Well with this album I only remember 2 or 3 parts right now where the bass is awesome but I still haven't payed too much attention. I'm still listening to the album as a whole.

[Teferet]

I personally love the new album as much as EGN, but then again I play guitar which has remained more or less the same between both albums.

[Flagjacket]

I really don't think that what instrument you guys play should carry that much weight with how much you like an album. After all, albums are meant to be appreciated as a whole not by individual instruments.

Unless you're White with hair down to your shoulders then you only listen to Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin.

[Henrik]

Thank you Doug.

But as far as I remember, Jamie Egan was on the recording for the new Keasbey Nights, even though he had already quit touring.
I wondered if any of the old members like Jamie or maybe Dan Ross were on the new album even though they don't tour anymore.

[Liebensaft]

I heard that Jimmy Hoffa plays sax on one of the songs.

[albert_bass]

I really don't think that what instrument you guys play should carry that much weight with how much you like an album. After all, albums are meant to be appreciated as a whole not by individual instruments.

Unless you're White with hair down to your shoulders then you only listen to Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin.

I guess this in part was directed to me. I was not judging the album because of the bass work. I was judging the bass work in the album because of the bass work (ah, the redundance) which is different. I really don't care if the bass is good or not as long as the song or the album is, the only difference is I won't like to play it that much.

I preffer playing Streetlight on bass than let's say Propagandhi any day but I totally love both bands.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Album was on sale at the New Jersey show tonight. Did anyone go?

[obese_breasts]

maybe Ry Ry went, probably not though

[JumpTheF**kUp]

By Ry Ry you mean IsItLuck? right?

[obese_breasts]

no I mean Reiner

[JumpTheF**kUp]

oic

Because IsItLuck? probably went as well.

Lucky bastards.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Two Days.

[DougJI]

Two Days.

for what?

[Time]

I just heard We Will Fall Together and it was really good, I've decided not to download it and just buy it when it comes out (I'll take everyone's word that it's amazing)

[Henrik]

I've got an e-mail from Interpunk that says that my copy is already on it's way to my hands. I just really hope that it'll make to the relase date.

[SkaRobotArmy]

don't get your hopes up everyone, canadian release date is next week apparently, FML.

[Kithkin]

I bought it at their show.

Suburban Legends got their van, equipment and merch stolen outside of philly, so they didn't play.

I forgot that The Stitch Ups were fronted by Mu330's Dan Potthast, so getting a few Mu330 songs was a nice surprise. He's a great frontman, but he has a lot of trouble catching energy in recordings. I bought their album too, but it isn't nearly as good as their live show.

[asdf]

Who are these bastards that keep stealing ska band's equiptment?

[Catchthe22]

my guess is it wasnt a straight out stolen van. It probably was just someone they kind of knew running away with their stuff.

[Time]

It absolutely ****ing kills me that a bunch of my friends are seeing them tomorrow and I'm not going. :(

[Henrik]

My copy hasn't arrived yet, even though i preordered it 2 months before the release date.

It better come tomorrow. I haven't heard it yet.

[Jordan_Frerichs]

Streetlight Manefesto Is Awsome

[Flagjacket]

Streetlight Manefesto Is Awsome

this has the makings of a great post.

[Liebensaft]

this has the makings of a great post.

The best part is that the post was clearly meant to be in all capital letters.

[DougJI]

http://www.new-noise.net/album-reviews/streetlight-manifestostreetlight-manifesto---somewhere-in-the-between_3161.html

what a douche.

[albert_bass]

You can't like ska and hate that album and you shouldn't review an album if you hate the genre so yeah that review is complete BS.

Men there's so much wrong with that review that guy should be ashamed of breathing.

[Aficionado]

I didn't even read the review, I read the summary and I needn't read further. What a juvenile idiot.

[asdf]

http://www.new-noise.net/album-reviews/streetlight-manifestostreetlight-manifesto---somewhere-in-the-between_3161.html

what a douche.
"his vocals are essentially a punkier version of Modest Mouse’s Issac Brooks"

Music reviewers should at least attempt to get musician's names correct. It's Issac Brock.

[TakeWarning]

That was one of the worst reviews I've ever read. Probably the worst in fact.

His argument loses most of its credibility when he criticises the grammar of the band name and album name.

[Flagjacket]

Reviews are never good.

[Liebensaft]

Reviews of reviews, though...great stuff. (including this review of a review of a review)

[Anarcho Poser]

Going to see them tonight. 3 hours away. Sweet.

[Henrik]

I finally got the album. I gotta say, I'm really impressed!

Favorite track so far: Watch it Crash.

[albert_bass]

I finally got the album. I gotta say, I'm really impressed!

Favorite track so far: Watch it Crash.

I liked Watch it crash the most too in my first listen because it sounds like good old Streetlight but the great thing with this album is that all the other, let's say, less familiar tracks will constantly grow on you with every new listen.

Awesome, I can't give enough praise to this album.

[Mr Benners]

I love it. I totally and utterly love it. Been waiting a long time for this and I'm not let down at all. Awesome, AWESOME album.
Only time will tell how it rates to EGN though. It's looking good though :D

[obese_breasts]

Forty Days is up there in top tracks for me

[Time]

^ah yeah it is so damn funky

I really love the album alot more than I expected, Down Down Down has been stuck in my head since Wednesday. Also, I really need to get the BOTAR EP.

EDIT 1400 cool

[JumpTheF**kUp]

I like The Receiving End of It All the most.

[albert_bass]

Forty Days has been my favorite for the longest time but I just don't know how to rate the others.

Somewhere In Between, Down down down, Receiving End Of It All and We will fall together probably are on top but I just can't really say.

^ah yeah it is so damn funky

I really love the album alot more than I expected, Down Down Down has been stuck in my head since Wednesday. Also, I really need to get the BOTAR EP.

EDIT 1400 cool

I can mail it to you if you want.

[Jessizzle]

i like the receiving end of it all, and 40 days best.. hhmm.. trend?

[Catchthe22]

I just saw the bad review. That was a pathetic review. I don't think he spell checked either.

[DougJI]

Receiving end is probably the best song kalnoky has written to this point.

[Anarcho Poser]

Eric, did you go to the show last night? It was a good set and they were awesome, but it was way too crowded, and the most pathetic excuse for a pit I've ever seen.

[thecaptainawesome]

Does anyone know where I can buy the actual A Call to Arms cd, and not just the downloads?

[Aficionado]

Go to the riscgroup store.

[Kithkin]

http://www.new-noise.net/album-reviews/streetlight-manifestostreetlight-manifesto---somewhere-in-the-between_3161.html

what a douche.

Not a single commenter agreed with him.

[Henrik]

I really like "One Foot on the Gas/One Foot in the Grave".
I especially love the part where the gang vocals go: What will you do when they call your name and you're not ready to go?.

Basically this album owns more and more as time goes by.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i'm fairly positive that review was written as a joke to piss of ska fans eveywhere.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Reviews of reviews, though...great stuff. (including this review of a review of a review)

great review dude, i totally agree. deep stuff.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Triple Post But Its Sooooo Gooooooooooooooooooooooooood!

[rebelfist]

Hey guys. I just registered to this site for this thread, just cause I love them so much (SLM, C22, and BOTAR). I've been following Catch 22 and Tom's music for four years now and have been over amazed at the genius he puts in his work. Thank whatever force that moves this world that I get to see them a second time in New Orleans this week. I'm stoked - see you there if you're going.

[Henrik]

At the Recieving End Of It All is my new favorite song.
And What A Wicked Gang We Are gets way to little credit.

[Catchthe22]

We will fall together 5/5
Down Down Down to Mephisto's Cafe 4/5
Would You Be Impressed 4/5
One Foot on the Gas 3.5/5
Watch it Crash 4.5/5
Somewhere In the Between 5/5
Forty Days 4.5/5
Blonde Lead the Blind 3.5/5
The Receiving End of it All 5/5
What a Wicked Gang We Are 4.5/5

43.5/50 ~ 4.5/5

Thats my review :D

[Anarcho Poser]

Hey guys. I just registered to this site for this thread, just cause I love them so much (SLM, C22, and BOTAR). I've been following Catch 22 and Tom's music for four years now and have been over amazed at the genius he puts in his work. Thank whatever force that moves this world that I get to see them a second time in New Orleans this week. I'm stoked - see you there if you're going.

yeah, props to gravity.

[Catchthe22]

welcome to the boards.

[Mr. Ron]

I saw them the other night. They were great. Too many fags being retards prevented anyone from skanking though.

[Pinhead13]

I'm seeing Streetlight Manifesto tonight! :cool:

[Aficionado]

This CD is damn good, but I feel it lacks the magic of EGN. I'm sure some songs will grow on me. I don't know why but Mephisto's cafe's chorus annoys me.

[Henrik]

The booklet says that Mephisto's Cafe originally should have been on Catch 22's second album if Tomas had stayed in that band.
That was kind of interesting I thought. :)

[thunderzstruck]

I saw them the other night. They were great. Too many fags being retards prevented anyone from skanking though.

you know, both times ive seen streetlight its been almost more moshing than skanking

disappointing :/

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Skanking is overrated. There's never enough room anyway.

[thunderzstruck]

idk i just think its really fun
especially with friends/girlfriends

[Flagjacket]

skanking is pretty homo

[Jessizzle]

if everyone knew how to skank correctly in a circle, its fun sometimes.. but im more of a front row type of person, so i normally just dance in the front. and this way i get to sing along with the bands into the mic more often.

[Flagjacket]

do a headwalk

[Aficionado]

Skanking is fun in less packed shows no doubt, an example of this being our high school carnival, now that was fun.

Am I the only who thinks the line "So what will you do when they call your name and you're not ready to go" is a reference to the whole Keasbey Nights and Point/Counterpoint storyline or am I just looking to deep into it? Heck some of the horns sound similar too. I gotta say though, this CD has definitely grown on me considerably.

[thunderzstruck]

Yeah, this cd grew on me soo much. It's literally ALL I've been listening to while driving since it released.

And I did also notice that a few horn lines are sooo similar to Keasby Nights. You know what would be epic and awesome? If they somehow integrated this song with the Point/Counterpoint Keasby Nights medley

[Aficionado]

Yeah, this cd grew on me soo much. It's literally ALL I've been listening to while driving since it released.

And I did also notice that a few horn lines are sooo similar to Keasby Nights. You know what would be epic and awesome? If they somehow integrated this song with the Point/Counterpoint Keasby Nights medley

That would be pretty amazning, though it would be hard to integrate and not make it too long. But am I the only one who caught that specific line? Oh and congrats on 6000 posts.

[Henrik]

Yeah I definitely can see what you mean there.

I think Watch It Crash and That'll Be The Day would make a great medley (I actually got a feeling that I've seen af video of this once).

[Aficionado]

Definitely it would. I really love the jazzy horns in Forty Days, they are very different from most of the album.

[jebus FX]

out of topic but can anyone send me the BOTAR EP please?

[Danger Bird]

check yr rep

[comptonassrobert]

So my band and I gave Tomas our demo when we saw them play with the Aquabats, and they stole one of our hornlines for Down Down Down to Mephisto's Cafe :cool:

[Flagjacket]

you should sue

[asdf]

So my band and I gave Tomas our demo when we saw them play with the Aquabats, and they stole one of our hornlines for Down Down Down to Mephisto's Cafe :cool:Post demo?

[comptonassrobert]

It's not really that noticeable and I really doubt they actually got it from listening to our demo (if they even did), but it's fun to convince myself that they did.

http://www.myspace.com/belleviewmob

It's the hornline during the break that starts at 3:30 into the song, and also the very last outro hornline of A Romance.

And in Down Down Down To Mephisto's Cafe it's the hornline that plays during the beginning of the chorus at 1:34

[M3LL0NC0LL13]

That song's pretty damn good. The one you said has a similar hornline, I mean.

[comptonassrobert]

yeah streetlight are good

[SkaRobotArmy]

i like your band. but also, i really really like somewhere in the between right now (the song) the lyrics are bit'chin if a little repetitive...

[DougJI]

It's not really that noticeable and I really doubt they actually got it from listening to our demo (if they even did), but it's fun to convince myself that they did.

http://www.myspace.com/belleviewmob

It's the hornline during the break that starts at 3:30 into the song, and also the very last outro hornline of A Romance.

And in Down Down Down To Mephisto's Cafe it's the hornline that plays during the beginning of the chorus.

my band broke up! now you cant hound me anymore!

i just cant see the similairty... i donno maybe my brain isnt working.

[obese_breasts]

Can't wait to see SM in a week

[comptonassrobert]

Are you seeing them at Slims?!

[obese_breasts]

Yeah, you too?

[comptonassrobert]

Yeahh, I'll be there.

[Catchthe22]

you guys should make it a date. Maybe an Italian restaurant with red table cloth and candles.

Or maybe not.

[obese_breasts]

Yeahh, I'll be there.

Nice

[ZaaR]

so today i listened to keasby nights (catch 22), everything goes numb and somewhere in the between. all ace, but sitb is def the weakest of the bunch IMO

[Aficionado]

Ya I'm gonna have to agree with you, Keasbey is still my favourite.

[Danger Bird]

<A Call To Arms

[ZaaR]

ahhh, i forgot i had that on my ipod! i should have listend to that today as well to make it a full-blown kalnoky experience!

[Danger Bird]

How can you leave out the best thing he's ever done?

[Kithkin]

It's not really that noticeable and I really doubt they actually got it from listening to our demo (if they even did), but it's fun to convince myself that they did.

http://www.myspace.com/belleviewmob

It's the hornline during the break that starts at 3:30 into the song, and also the very last outro hornline of A Romance.

And in Down Down Down To Mephisto's Cafe it's the hornline that plays during the beginning of the chorus at 1:34


This isn't a dig really, but yours is the 5th or 6th band I've tried on myspace that has a song that goes clean guitar intro, rest of the band comes in, add horns, stop; distorted guitar.

Your songs could use some work.

[lynch_me]

The vocals remind me so much of really old school blink 182.

[comptonassrobert]

This isn't a dig really, but yours is the 5th or 6th band I've tried on myspace that has a song that goes clean guitar intro, rest of the band comes in, add horns, stop; distorted guitar.

Your songs could use some work.

Tomas liked them enough to steal them! Haha.

Yeah I know, those are the first few songs we wrote and the recordings are pretty old, but it was fun while it lasted. And we were the only band within 15 miles that actually used horns.

[DougJI]

dont forget gimp. i dont care what you say, but **** if i could write songs like that when i was 14...

[SkaRobotArmy]

kith is a skasnob.

[Kithkin]

Teach me master.

[SkaRobotArmy]

some day soon my son, you are not yet ready to begin your training.

[obese_breasts]

Tomorrow....

[obese_breasts]

Ok, no joke, my friend got an email from Tomas/BOTAR a couple days ago and they want her to play harp for them on the next album, to be recorded in the next few months.

[Aficionado]

thats cool.

[Kithkin]

That is prettyn cool.

And by next few months, you mean years, right?

[obese_breasts]

They asked if she would be in LA for the next 2-3 months, so whatever that means

[DougJI]

It would appear this rumor is true. Reports like this have been springing up in a few different places it would seem.

[StreetlightRock]

ohmyholygodf'uckohyes.

Just came back from seeing SM, Reel Big Fish and Less Than Jake.

omgomgomg.

Like, don't get me wrong, Streetlight are my favorite band ever since the beginning of everything that is good and holy in the world, but LtJ and RBF live have got to be some of the most fun I've had ever. Like f'ucking ever. Maybe it was because SM only played like 5-6 songs, but still. Arrggh. I wanna see them do a full set. What a show.

[Liebensaft]

I saw that same show, and aside from the brief time Streetlight was on, I was wishing I was dead/had not paid as much money as I did for one "opening" band. Less Than Jake were extremely gay, played awful songs, and had a corny, stupid Price is Right gimmick going on. Reel Big Fish played for 8 hours, played the same song 10 times, and acted like douchebags. We left as they were starting their first encore (I assume they played for at least another half hour to an hour).

[StreetlightRock]

tbh im not familiar with LtJ songs and I only know songs from RBF's first album and i still thought it was great. The one and only part that bugged me was that there even WAS en encore, i thought it was a pretty much perfect ending after RBF's cover of Take On Me and Sell Out. Still, the encore was only one song, so it was ok. And I got a SLM t-shirt. Very Zen.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Dude, I ****ing hate you.

[StreetlightRock]

There there... *hugs*

[JumpTheF**kUp]

:'(

[Danger Bird]

Great now I'm excited for new BotAR again

[SkaRobotArmy]

i dunno, i saw LtJ at warped and had a wicked good time. and that RBF does sound balls but mine was bitchin.'

[thunderzstruck]

just got back from seeing streetlight.

such a good show. my third time also. Them playing some botar was nice, one thing though was their opener (we will fall together) i didnt think sounded all that amazing. Not much energy, small small complaint though : P

[asdf]

I would love to see them this friday and I even have friends that'll drive me, but I have work and many other obligations.

[Danger Bird]

I wish people would stop bumping this I keep thinking something new has actually happened.

[Henrik]

bump

[Flagjacket]

...

[Henrik]

just got back from seeing streetlight.

such a good show. my third time also. Them playing some botar was nice, one thing though was their opener (we will fall together) i didnt think sounded all that amazing. Not much energy, small small complaint though : P

anyways... What was the set list like?

[thunderzstruck]

we will fall together
point counterpoint/keasby nights
down down down to mephistos cafe
would you be impressed
watch it crash
Somewhere in the Between
Kristina She Don't Know I Exist
Everything Went Numb
We Are the Few
They Provide the Paint
what a wonderful life
Intro This is a Call to Arms/Heres to Life
A Better Place, A Better Time
The Big Sleep

not in that order but pretty sure thats it all

[SkaRobotArmy]

thats so sick they a wonderful life, i love that song.

[Catchthe22]

yeah that is awesome

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

we will fall together
point counterpoint/keasby nights
down down down to mephistos cafe
would you be impressed
watch it crash
Somewhere in the Between
Kristina She Don't Know I Exist
Everything Went Numb
We Are the Few
They Provide the Paint
what a wonderful life
Intro This is a Call to Arms/Heres to Life
A Better Place, A Better Time
The Big Sleep

not in that order but pretty sure thats it all

I was gonna go to this but decided not to. I'm kinda pissed now.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Do they ever play The Receiving End Of It All or What a Wicked Gang Are We?

[thunderzstruck]

thats so sick they a wonderful life, i love that song.

yeah it was my favorite of the set. Everybody was dancing. Me and a few friends made a circle and held hands and skanked. I would just look over at people and wave at them and they would come over and join. It got up to around 20 people.. soooo much fun :)

I was gonna go to this but decided not to. I'm kinda pissed now.

ah you should have, especially for only $15. also if youve ever been to the varsity theater (where it was at) its definitely my favorite venue ive been to so far in the twin cities

they said theyd be touring in april again that theyd come back (at least to minnesota)

[thunderzstruck]

Do they ever play The Receiving End Of It All or What a Wicked Gang Are We?

i was hoping for receiving end of it all but they never did
(my favorite off the new album)

also ive never seen them play the saddest song. thats one of their most energetic (and favorite) i really want them to sometime

[ZaaR]

Do they ever play The Receiving End Of It All or What a Wicked Gang Are We?

it's a shame if they don't because the receiving end of it all is the best song off their new disc.

[Henrik]

That sucks if they don't. They even say in the booklet that The Receiving End Of It All is the band's favorite track of the album. (mine too :( )

Other than that, awesome set list.

I'm going to see them in february with Reel Big Fish. I just wish they would come alone, cause I don't care that much for Reel Big Fish, and Streetlight's set gets shorter because they aren't headlining.

[DougJI]

Tomas' voice isnt up to it

and theres like 80 million vocal parts, and they cant figure out how to do it

and tomas cant play and sing parts of the song at the same time.

but they've been promising to be ready to do it by april.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i never understood why bands record things they can't play live. its one thing if you add an outside instrument or something that you dont normally have for effect. but to write a part like that that you couldn't play and sing at the same time is kinda silly i think.

[Flagjacket]

Because the point of recorded music is to compose a variety of sounds into an arrangement that is audibly pleasing. To use everything you can and want to is no problem, you can always just run a recording or something through the speakers.

[DougJI]

probably thought that one line of vocals made it sound empty/not as epic.

i personally love the chorus, i always sing the long drawn out part "though you dont knoooww wwhaaaat its liiiiiike to lose it allll its like to be on the receiving end of it all"

[Henrik]

i never understood why bands record things they can't play live. its one thing if you add an outside instrument or something that you dont normally have for effect. but to write a part like that that you couldn't play and sing at the same time is kinda silly i think.

I don't know why, but I'm glad they did, cause that Chorus is definitely some of the best they have did in my honest opinion.

I think Streetlight could use a more solid backup singer, when they play live.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i agree, i just think its strange...

and really? i think he does a great job, their voices fit together really well. i think past horn players did more back-ups if i remember.

[Jessizzle]

today i woke up and said ' i think i am going to wear my streetlight shirt today' then picked up it and said naaah..

i thought that was something intresting i could add to the convercation..

[Flagjacket]

Jess don't make me hate you

[Jessizzle]

kevin... you know you love me.

[Henrik]

i agree, i just think its strange...

and really? i think he does a great job, their voices fit together really well. i think past horn players did more back-ups if i remember.

Yeah well maybe your're right. I just never thought that Jammy Egan was that good of a back-up singer, though he is an awesome musician.
But honestly if they are to play The Receiving End Of It All they probably need 2 good back-up singers at least to make it sound good live.

[Liebensaft]

If I didn't know Jess, I'd hate her. Just sayin'.

[Kithkin]

Yeah well maybe your're right. I just never thought that Jammy Egan was that good of a back-up singer, though he is an awesome musician.
But honestly if they are to play The Receiving End Of It All they probably need 2 good back-up singers at least to make it sound good live.

Yeah, they all kinda suck at singing live. Not that you can usually hear them over the crowd.

[Robbert]

I'm seeing SLM tonight, I can hardly wait. They're supporting reel big fish, and I hope that RBF is bit ok as well...

[Robbert]

Streetlight: yay! RBF: nay!

[Jessizzle]

i think that you are dumb mindless and trying to just fit in with the bandwagon.


clearly RBF put on an awesome live show, i dont care how much their newest albums sucked, their live show is great. they know how to work a crowd and play some fun-loving-head-boppin tunes.

[Flagjacket]

Some has challenged Jess on ska callt he cavalry!!!!!

[Kithkin]

They know how to work a crowd and play some fun-loving-head-boppin tunes.

I just wish it would change. It always feels like the same show. And aside from a handful of new songs, it's the same show I first saw 6 years ago.

[Flagjacket]

Like how Green Day hasn't changed their live show since like 93

I've only seen them once but I hear thats the case

[Robbert]

i think that you are dumb mindless and trying to just fit in with the bandwagon.


clearly RBF put on an awesome live show, i dont care how much their newest albums sucked, their live show is great. they know how to work a crowd and play some fun-loving-head-boppin tunes.

So, just because I didn't like RBF it makes me dumb and mindless. I admit, there were a few fun songs, but it was nothing compared to the party SLM brought with them. you don't have to insult people for not liking a particular band dude.

[honkybrewster]

Some bands are just better live.

I, personally, believe Reel Big Fish is one of those bands.

[Jessizzle]

So, just because I didn't like RBF it makes me dumb and mindless. I admit, there were a few fun songs, but it was nothing compared to the party SLM brought with them. you don't have to insult people for not liking a particular band dude.

pretty much yeah it does.

saying you didnt like RBF live is like saying you enjoy having aids...



but the point that every set they have is the exact same is valid. but i would still pay to see it each time.

[Flagjacket]

No Jess Reel Big Fish blows

[Robbert]

different people, different tastes I guess

[Henrik]

I'm seeing the same show in 6 hours, with Reel Big Fish being the headliner.

I'm really excited, cause its the first time I get to see Streetlight!!!!

[Kithkin]

saying you didnt like RBF live is like saying you enjoy having aids...


You mean like these guys?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0355482/

[Jessizzle]

so BTMI on tour with the slackers, andi heard the planet smashers may also be added to the bill..


5 canadian dates.

[Ill Reality]

I just dug up ****ing Keasbey and Everything Goes Numb. I got all excited when I found them hahahahhaa.


God knows why I stopped listening to them, this s'hit is gold.

[Jessizzle]

April, 27 2008 at The Pheonix w/ Streetlight Manifesto
Not Available , Toronto, Ontario
Cost : tba

w/ streetlight



WHAT

[lynch_me]

I am down to see the planet smashers any day.

[Henrik]

I saw Streetlight last night.

A local band started out and they were pretty good.

Then Streetlight came on and they were absolutely awesome!
The set list as far as I remember:

We Will Fall Together
Would You Be Impressed
Point/Counterpoint
Down, Down, Down to Mephisto's Cafe
Here's to Life
Whatch It Crash
Everything Numb
Somewhere In The Between

The venue is absolutely awesome, and it's a pretty small place, which meant it was no problem to come up front.

Then Reel Big Fish went on. That was what most of the crowd came to see. I thought it was allright. They're definitely a good live band, but the music it self is a bit overrated IMO.

I took home halfway trough RBF cause I was drunk an tired. I didn't get to hear Beer og S.R in many versions but besides that it was an awesome night!

I got to talk to the new trombone player, which was pretty cool.

Hope they'll return someday.

[McP3000]

So, i just listened to Everything Went Numb and Streetlight Manifesto for the first time...

****ing badassery. Great album, especially for first impressions. A solid 4 on the review site. I'll have to give Somewhere in the Between a spin too.

Any recommendations too? I've never really gotten into punk yet other than Streetlight, The Clash, and At the Drive-In (if you count them)

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Next step for you is Catch 22's Keasbey Nights. I personally like it more than EGN, but I have found myself in the minority on this issue. Regardless, it's a great album.

[ZaaR]

April, 27 2008 at The Pheonix w/ Streetlight Manifesto
Not Available , Toronto, Ontario
Cost : tba

w/ streetlight



WHAT

!!!

[jebus FX]

Next step for you is Catch 22's Keasbey Nights. I personally like it more than EGN, but I have found myself in the minority on this issue. Regardless, it's a great album.

original Keasbey Nights slays Everything Goes Numb in my opinion.

[stalemate]

Saw Streetlight Manifesto together with Reel Big Fish and Sonic Boom Six yesterday in Oslo, really good. SM was by far the best band, as expected.

[Danger Bird]

yesyesyesyesthey'recomingtoseattleyes

[Golan]

I'm going to the Seattle show for sure. How fast you think it'll sell out?

[the-UK-ska-scene]

i saw them the other day and they actually played a few songs i knew (i thought they were gonna play a lot more from the newest album which i don't have). they played here's to life, we are the few, silence/violence. awesome. i'm seeing them again tomorrow.

[Henrik]

You seriously need to get the new album then! It has grown on me more than I thought it would and I really really love it now.

Especially "the Receiving End Of It All"! That song might be the best song Tomas has written maybe along with "Here's To Life".

[the-UK-ska-scene]

my dad has the album and played it to me when i went to visit him the other day. but the wanker didn't copy me one. i've just realised someone said up there that they saw sonic boom six on the tour in europe, that's so cool i thought they were just doing the uk leg. they played in japan a couple weeks ago too, and are going to america in a week or two. good on them!

[Kithkin]

Sweet, I get to see SB6 April 2.

Though I don't really like Arcade Perfect.

[the-UK-ska-scene]

hehe, i was chatting to barney about that the other day. i couldn't believe they are going to america...wow. he is quite excited. apparently they're playing django's clubnight in ny! and django loves them haha. anyway they've gone quite a lot more into the drum n bass stuff live now, and i think they are as good as i've ever seen them, probably the best i've seen them as the dance music infusion just psychs you up and makes it impossible not to dance :) hope you enjoy them, kith, lemme know what you think!

[Danger Bird]

My friend and I bought tickets, now we're hoping like hell to find a ride.

[BannedJonny]

hey guys, thought id start posting in here...

loving streetlight, saw em on saturday with SB6 and RBF. blew me away tbh, i'd seen the other 2 bands before, and knew they were pretty awesome, but streetlight... my god...

i've been loving them for the best part of 2 years now, and their music carries some real "emotional baggage" for me, especially egn.

[the-UK-ska-scene]

oh man, that was at concorde yeah? gutted i didn't make it to that show, it was probably the best venue of the tour. i can't believe they played concorde one night, then astoria the next. unfortunately, on saturday night i was dressed as a grunger for my teacher's book launch party

[BannedJonny]

oh man, i cant describe how good the vibe was there. was just immense... second only to the king Blues on tuesday for vibe, after we all got up on stage and danced.

tbh, if the gigs of last week were all i had all year, i'd be happy.

theyre not so eeeeeeeeeeeeee :)

[the-UK-ska-scene]

ah cool, was the king blues show part of the anti-flag tour? how was it?

i didn't make it out to those shows. the only one i considered going to was the 100 club, as my housemate offered me a ticket last minute as she had to work, but i went to my mate's exhibition instead haha. i like king blues, but i've seen them before, and i'm not that keen on anti-flag

[BannedJonny]

kb was part of anti flag, yea.
it was alright, hadnt heard anti flag before, wasnt overly bowled away. tbh, i kinda got too friendly with the bar just before their set, so i wasnt in best mind to judge. the kb set was one of the best i've seen em play.

[Kithkin]

Lemme know what you think!

I plan on calling out babyboom songs.

Do they know who they'll be playing with yet?

[the-UK-ska-scene]

well from what i heard, some of the dates were with big d - as they're bringing them over here soon after. i'm not sure if all the dates were, but i'm pretty sure they are starting in boston so yeah...

[BummerJonny]

i have all the uk tour dates on my floor...

Big D, SB6 and Random Hand

all May Dates:

13th Kingston Peel
14th Brighton Freebutt
15th Leicester Charlotte
16th Birmingham Academy 2
17th Norwich Queen Charlotte
18th Glasgow Barfly
20th Newcastle Academy 2
21st Manchester Club Academy
22nd Southampton Joiners
23rd London Underworld
24th Derby First Floor
25th Leeds TBC
27th Plymouth White Rabbit
28th Bristol Croft
29th Exeter Hub

hope that helps :)

[BummerJonny]

us dates at http://www.myspace.com/sonicboomsix

[Kithkin]

Yeah, but that doesn't have who they're playing with.

I know they're playing some dates with the Flaming Tsunamis (Like the Mass. dates), and they're not playing with Big D over here. But TFS aren't playing the Baltimore date. It would be fine with me if they're doing the Baltimore date solo.

[BummerJonny]

hmm, i'll have a look on their forum. if not i'll give barney a shout :)

[the-UK-ska-scene]

from the mailout:
"Anyhoo, next big news on the agenda is that we are going over to the US at the end of this month. We're gonna be doing several headline shows and a few shows with the Flaming Tsunamis."

so yeah i'm guessing it's that

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

im seeing them when they come to chicago in may

woot

[TBrown87]

Sweet. Seein them in Cleveland the same month.

[Jessizzle]

i orderd my tickets this weekend.

attn ontarioians,,,,, the show will sell out soon.

[ZaaR]

lol

/hasn't got ticket yet

[Danger Bird]

Finally saw them last night. Wow.

[MrRelish]

Hello here! I'm new, I'll make it short :
I didnt read the whole thread (guess why) and that question as surely been answered a thousand time. Here it is : Why Streetlight Manifesto is named Streetlight Manifesto? I always wanted to know that but found nothing on the internet... I hope somebody can answer..

Also, hello to anyone who will be there next Sunday at Quebec city :)

[Danger Bird]

Because they think it sounds cool

[Time]

Dammit, they're here tonight but I'm not going. It's kind of a good thing I never bought a ticket though because I'm sick.