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ATM
05-09-2005, 09:14 PM
I've seen it a million times.

Somebody mentions rap, and about 20 comments follow with people saying how much they hate it, and how it isn't music. They claim that is just about money, killing, hoes, etc.

I can't really get angry with these people, for the sole reason that the radio is full of that bullshit. Someone will usually come along and say, "The underground has much better stuff." But without actually hearing some good rap, statements like that don't accomplish much.

So all I ask is that everyone gives rap an honest listen. If you like it, great, if not, then at least you have an educated opinion on it.

To understand rap, you need to know a little about the origin.

Rap is part of the hip hop culture, which also includes graffiti and break dancing. It came out of the South Bronx in the late seventies, stemming from funk and disco. It emerged as a form of self expression for the black and hispanic community in New York. Conditions in these neighberhoods were poor, and the way the people expressed this was through rap. Crews started to form, to give members identity, and this is deeply rooted in the hip hop culture.

Early rap recordings:

* Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DQ47TVCK9EV727DLDSHFSWQCY

* Grandmaster Flash - The Message

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28S7IWX4P8KBU22M9IOH4CNZ89

*Run DMC - My Adidas

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LSE6RTUNT57D0A1HVAYXR793K

*2 Live Crew - We Want Some Pussy

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=285JSDABNWTHM2JHQMZLMJSGWF


East coast rap:

*Beastie Boys - Fight For Your Right

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U0W2TQXCV1C11RTNWILVIF0HY

No Sleep Til Brooklyn -

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RB18LQ26X89H13Q7XEE0P0Z1P

*Public Enemy - Don't Believe the Hype

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EL3LZRKPUX8J2JCZLYF18W25B

*Notorious BIG - Machine Gun Funk

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1325TMUHYKOZN05GHMYJ96PO29

*Nas - One Love

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LOF7CQR49BP71U07YPNZGQ89I

*Wu Tang - Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothin' To Fuck Wit

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CHIV9VII20KM302WJ5D7FHVVX

Also check out Jay Z.

Gangsta rap:

*2pac - Hit 'Em Up

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O5HOMOYB97O13SFW7IFWANBEN

Also check out NWA.

Okay, now that you have a background, let's move into some of my favorites:

*Benefit - Proceed With Caution

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HLOTKBRZWX1K14227175DICSD

*De La Soul - Me, Myself and I

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XU3IUXPBVBSQ1LOEASY5MCF7B

Potholes in my lawn

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15OVV1YU2VU6B1F1HGOG5FNP23

*Edan - Rapperfection

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PUQH502RQDKR09IKOUTPSH3CY

-Rock an Roll

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DIQZBJ6Y5Q9E33Y5S4VL9DA2N

*Non Prophets - Tolerance Level

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M629CH9524Z53B2N2UWRCAT0B

*Atmosphere - Shoes

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=322FWM0BGJ0X51JTS9U1VQTFYF

*Propellerheards (featuring De La Soul) - Oh Yeah

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0IK0X0UR0SR238LTO3UIFVYU5

That should get you started. Enjoy.

-Special thanks to Bartender for help with this

A new FG should be ready by May 29th.

Txus
05-09-2005, 09:15 PM
I will never like rap , so sorry......

RouteOne
05-09-2005, 09:16 PM
I think rap takes much talent to make and perform. It's just that I can't listen to it. I don't hate it but I would rather be listening to metal or hardcore.

ATM
05-09-2005, 09:16 PM
I'm glad you gave it a chance.

EDIT: to Txus

ThePatient
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
West Coast > Gangta Rap > East Coast

Huber
05-09-2005, 09:19 PM
There's a few Cypress Hill songs I like. That's as far as it goes though. I just don't dig it.

Zjanarhi
05-09-2005, 09:19 PM
The only rap group I'll listen to is Bone Thugz N Harmony. Underneath the words, you can tell they are good musicians. A lot of their songs have a nice bassline, too. My2Cents

slaughteredfirst
05-09-2005, 09:21 PM
I like some rap.

Enimen is my favroite personally.

MalcolmYoungRock
05-09-2005, 09:22 PM
/me downloads rappers delight.

hip hippity hop hip hop hibbity bibbity

RouteOne
05-09-2005, 09:22 PM
I like some rap.

Enimen is my favroite personally.
I cannot even stand the sight of that guy.

ATM
05-09-2005, 09:22 PM
Please actually read my post and download some songs instead of just posting a quick comment.

slaughteredfirst
05-09-2005, 09:23 PM
I cannot even stand the sight of that guy.


:lol:

Eh, I like his music.

MalcolmYoungRock
05-09-2005, 09:30 PM
Please actually read my post and download some songs instead of just posting a quick comment.

I read it :) 'Twas informative and I got one of my favorite songs that I can only hear on Tony Hawk's Underground 2.

Sad thing is, it's a 13 meg file so it'll be a while, with my terrible internet connection.

Edit: It's a common misconception that all rap is about booze, drugs, etc.

I used to think that also, until I found out about political rap.

Political rap is really good stuff.

bball_1523
05-09-2005, 09:30 PM
You know what....the first type of music I was into was all RAP! Mainstream rap that is. I was big into Snoop Dogg, 2pac, Dr Dre, Ice Cube, and all the other mtv stuff. I would listen to the local rap station on radio and record the music onto tapes. I even went out and bought cds....it all came crumbling down in my freshmen/soph year when I started to listen to rock and metal and now I bearly ever give rap a listen.

Now I want to say that Rap has it's talents just as any genre does. It's your opinion on whether you think it has a lot of talent or bearly any. I think a lot of work goes into the studio and how to create the right beats for the right lyrics. You can't just lay a beat with Fruityloops and make everyone listen to it. It takes more than a simple program. It takes mastering and producing just as other music genres do. Sometimes rap groups will actually play the instruments themselves and record guitar licks, bass lines, drums, etc.

Now imo, rap right now is horrible....I'm talking about MTV (c)rap. I also want to separate rap from hiphop because I think there's differences. A lot of the rap you hear about on mtv is all about money, girls, drugs, surviving the hood, etc. In hip hop it's more about writing good lyrics, making good rhymes, using the right words, metaphors, and a whole lot of poetry. It's not easy to write hiphop lyrics. I also think hiphop takes a more personal approach to songwriting and not just about money, girls, and drugs. This is all just my opinion though.

Dr. Jake Destructo
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Hip Hop=the style of music
Rap= the style of vocal presentation

That's my opinion anyways.

I don't mind rap at all. I like The Wu Tang Clan quite a bit and Zack De La Rocha is an amazing artist. Not just with RATM but I really think that his solo work will be quite badass.

dUSK
05-09-2005, 10:52 PM
Nice job ATM :thumb:

It's good to see some Rap getting the recognition it deserves. Lets hope this FG doesn't get overrun by the people mentioned in the 2nd and 3rd sentences.

BassMasterMike88
05-09-2005, 10:55 PM
Rap is honestly one of my guilty pleasures, stuff like Run DMC and 2 Live Crew, and there are some instermentalist rap artists out there, even though i think their more R&B like.

ArC
05-09-2005, 10:59 PM
Very nice FG

I'm not much into rap, though I think N.W.A's "Straight Outa Compton" is a very well made album. I DO however enjoy Trip-hop. Hip-hop style drums are fantastic.

Permanent Solution
05-09-2005, 10:59 PM
Can you define the difference between Hip-Hop and Rap for me?

ATM
05-09-2005, 11:43 PM
Hip hop is the culture, which includes break dancing, graffiti, and rap.

manuscriptreplica
05-09-2005, 11:47 PM
I like hip hop and all, but I thought FG's in R+M were meant to be about actual genres in the R+M field

Edit: i'll upload a Blackalicious song, which is superb

ATM
05-09-2005, 11:49 PM
I like hip hop and all, but I thought FG's in R+M were meant to be about actual genres in the R+M field

Edit: i'll upload a Blackalicious song, which is superb

I figured there would be no other way for people into rock and metal to actually learn something about rap.

Permanent Solution
05-09-2005, 11:56 PM
I like hip hop and all, but I thought FG's in R+M were meant to be about actual genres in the R+M field

Edit: i'll upload a Blackalicious song, which is superb
Meh, mine was pop-punk, we're all broadening our horizons.

manuscriptreplica
05-09-2005, 11:58 PM
Whatever

http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2180LUYHNNNSR29HC9SP1CDYNU

There's Blackalicious - Chemical Calestenics. put that up in the original post if you wish

Thanks for all the uploads too :)

Kage
05-09-2005, 11:59 PM
I like hip hop and all, but I thought FG's in R+M were meant to be about actual genres in the R+M field
123.

ATM
05-10-2005, 12:01 AM
I'm just trying to expose you all to something new.

insearchofsomething11
05-10-2005, 12:20 AM
i love atmosphere

insearchofsomething11
05-10-2005, 12:21 AM
I'm just trying to expose you all to something new.


and those of us open minded enough to listen thank you :thumb:

ATM
05-10-2005, 12:32 AM
and those of us open minded enough to listen thank you :thumb:

Thanks bud.

insearchofsomething11
05-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Thanks bud.


no problem :thumb:

for all of you intrested here's a song from The Roots.. it's off Illadeph Half Life.. probably their best album in my opinion... and this is a good song...

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3N4XF94KX37YW3MTSROEPHJE1S

enjoy ;)

ThrashMaster27
05-10-2005, 12:51 AM
I like my Rap, so it's nice to see it pop up on the occasion. Personally I would have used different songs for 2Pac and Nas, but that's just a matter of opinion. Adding Edan aswell! very nice.

I was suprised to see no Jurassic 5 in there.

killswitchtony
05-10-2005, 12:57 AM
I cannot even stand the sight of that guy.
couldn't have said it better myself, i have just recently gotten into rap, personal favourites being Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Dead Prez, and Nas, but there is a lot of good rap out there, just that mainstream rap is giving it a bad name

ATM
05-10-2005, 12:59 AM
I like my Rap, so it's nice to see it pop up on the occasion. Personally I would have used different songs for 2Pac and Nas, but that's just a matter of opinion. Adding Edan aswell! very nice.

I was suprised to see no Jurassic 5 in there.

I was going to put some in, but uploading all of those songs was taking long enough as it was.

killswitchtony
05-10-2005, 12:59 AM
I was going to put some in, but uploading all of those songs was taking long enough as it was.

would we be able to put some extra ones up?

dUSK
05-10-2005, 01:01 AM
i love atmosphere

who doesn't :p

ATM
05-10-2005, 01:02 AM
would we be able to put some extra ones up?

I don't see why not?

MaidenNut
05-10-2005, 01:03 AM
I used to like some rap and still do.... But now that the mainstream is all urban its really went down, like monica on clinton down! Its all about the money, use of vulgur language and exploitation of women is used to luer young unsuspecting listeners and steal their dollars.. Also "gangster" rap as they so call it, pretending your from the streets, and got your street cred to be "cool" Is all a scam its part of the scam.. Just like Lil John he was a rich boy who went to college, but whos to differ... I can only listen to the old stuff I orginaly listened to any new rap that comes out I block out..

insearchofsomething11
05-10-2005, 01:04 AM
who doesn't :p


anyone who doesn't should be killed... seriously...

Dancin' Man
05-10-2005, 06:23 AM
Awesome. These were supposed to be all R&M but people were so unwilling to write them I have been letting others come in in hopes that it will catch on as something to do.

Aesop Rock and Nas are probably my two favorite rappers right now. East coast must be my thing.

Otherside
05-10-2005, 06:42 AM
Here's some NWA:

NWA - Fuck The Police (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09XTDX0REMEYP0S63247A56LDW)

NWA - Appetite for Destruction (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1VWZ17OXAL4M404GS3C5E2VQM4)

Adam Jones is GOD
05-10-2005, 06:48 AM
I find the odd rap song that i like, but a lot of it just doesnt strike a chord with me.

However, i am a sucker for turntable artists. Thats where the majority of my hip hop attention goes to.

Dancin' Man
05-10-2005, 09:19 AM
Everyone should check out Madlib. Rap without rap. It's iunstrumental beats but they are very, very cool. I'll upload some when I get home.

3rdplanet
05-10-2005, 09:28 AM
I like Atmosphere and Non Propethes, The Roots are **** good as well.

I dig Trip-Hop much more though.

Don't know if that is related at all, well Trip-Hop does have a founding in Rap/Hip-Hop.

NJMetalMeister
05-10-2005, 09:51 AM
no problem :thumb:

for all of you intrested here's a song from The Roots.. it's off Illadeph Half Life.. probably their best album in my opinion... and this is a good song...

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3N4XF94KX37YW3MTSROEPHJE1S

enjoy ;)

The roots are excellent in every way possible, i will second this one. I am also glad that rap is the featured genre this time, it does get a lot of negative hype because of the popular artists around right now (hmm, sounds like metal's problem too ;) ) But even in the whole mainstream of rap today, i would like to mention that outkast gets shunned a bit, even though its quality as well.

However, you can't beat the classics like NWA and Public Enemy.

Some rap, even if it is very cheezy and corny can be entertaining, like the Digital Underground and more notably their only really well known song The Humpty Dance, if i can find the cd that has a bunch of DU stuff burned to it i have lying around here, ill upload it. Although intellegent rap is always the best stuff, some of the other stuff can still be quite entertaining.

Arucard
05-10-2005, 10:17 AM
Hyrogliphics are my faverouiter rap act, closely followed by Aesop Rock. Even though Lil John is Gangster Rap, i like him alot.

NJMetalMeister
05-10-2005, 10:51 AM
hell yeah, i consider lil jon to be like the death metal equivalent of rap. i mean after all there is double bass drum parts in put yo hood up

Steerpike
05-10-2005, 11:01 AM
I've been meaning to give rap a chance this summer. My family isn't exactly the biggest fan of it. Mostly because they haven't heard anything to convince them it's any different from the MTV bull****.

I'll download a few of those tracks when I get back from lunch.

Arucard
05-10-2005, 11:02 AM
hell yeah, i consider lil jon to be like the death metal equivalent of rap. i mean after all there is double bass drum parts in put yo hood up

Heh. His voice is very brutal as well, once of the deepest around. I have 'Crunk Juice' and its awesome.

Alive
05-10-2005, 11:08 AM
/me downloads rappers delight.

hip hippity hop hip hop hibbity bibbity

dāmn right.

I like all genres of music almost without exception (power pop being the one I might have special opinions on)

\m/ WU TANG FOR LIFE

Edit: I'm uploading some Jurrasic 5 now.

Alive
05-10-2005, 11:12 AM
I'm just trying to expose you all to something new.

I appriciate the uploads

Kosta
05-10-2005, 11:18 AM
I listened to nothing but hip-hop untill I was 14. My favorites include Tha Alkaholiks, Quasimoto, Lootpack, Mr Lif ,Digable Planets, A Tribe Called Quest, Edan, Deltron 3030, Hieroglyphics (I still wear my Third Eye vision shirt with pride), DJ Spinna, Shabaam Saadiq, Black Star, Cannibal Ox, EPMD, King Tee, Defari, Souls Of Mischief, Blackalicious, Rjd2, Aceyalone, The Demigodz, Declaime, Polyrythm Addicts, Apani B Fly Emcee, Zion I, Warcloud and the Wu-Tang classics.

Rap music kicks ***.

94_Hours
05-10-2005, 11:22 AM
no problem :thumb:

for all of you intrested here's a song from The Roots.. it's off Illadeph Half Life.. probably their best album in my opinion... and this is a good song...

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3N4XF94KX37YW3MTSROEPHJE1S

enjoy ;)
The Roots are fantastic, as is K-Os

Kosta
05-10-2005, 11:23 AM
Can you define the difference between Hip-Hop and Rap for me?

Hip-hop is

1) the subculture.

2) the style of rap music that is often progressive, but, has a very old school approach to the music itself.

who doesn't :p

I don't. Slug is terrible.

Hyrogliphics are my faverouiter rap act, closely followed by Aesop Rock. Even though Lil John is Gangster Rap, i like him alot.


Lil Jon is gangster rap? I beg to differ. He's crunk. The most horrible sub genre of them all.

Arucard
05-10-2005, 11:23 AM
I didnt know Crunk existed.

Kosta
05-10-2005, 11:25 AM
So I can, just, like, you know, post some cool recommendations? I'll probably edit this post with some cool Aceyalone.

Alive
05-10-2005, 11:33 AM
Jurassic 5 - A day at the Races (http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3G94WNZPANRX503XI6T49BBZFA)

Jurassic 5 - Flat Line (http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LGCBC3DMT8XF13L4O0N0QML03)

Kosta
05-10-2005, 11:44 AM
Jurassic 5 - A day at the Races (http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3G94WNZPANRX503XI6T49BBZFA)


Percee P is so amazing in that song.

Anyway.

Self Scientific - The Long Run (http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2G2PTB0RKAAAY1QRYSWYISLC0S)

NJMetalMeister
05-10-2005, 12:44 PM
I didnt know Crunk existed.

it doesnt, he classifies himself as Dirty South rap, which makes sense, for he is from the dirty south

Kosta
05-10-2005, 12:54 PM
it doesnt, he classifies himself as Dirty South rap, which makes sense, for he is from the dirty south


He classifies himself as crunk.

Arucard
05-10-2005, 01:12 PM
You sound alot like a rap version of Dargon.

36Dritzlfists
05-10-2005, 01:22 PM
I listen to a few rappers, mainly Tech N9ne and Mac Dre. What sets these rappers apart from the rappers you see on MTV are their lyrical skills.
Mac Dre has some of the best similies and metaphors you'll ever hear in rap. Mac Dre in my opinion is the greatest rapper of all time. He is the funniest, most intelligent, and most original.

Garret
05-10-2005, 01:24 PM
I think rap generally is crap. There's a few artists I like though (Eminem, The Streets, and MC Chris come to mind first), and the occasional song, but I think it's generally a load of sh.it.

deathscreamingsheep
05-10-2005, 01:25 PM
I don't really like much rap aside from Coolio and Eminem, but I have sampled it and i agree that is takes a lot of skill and talent.

I don't think people should really belittle rap at all but the sad fact is that most rockers will just turn away from it and disregard it. That was why I was a fan of nu-metal with all those crossover albums and continue to enjoy Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and other rap-flavoured rock bands. But anyway that's my opinion.

Kosta
05-10-2005, 01:29 PM
You sound alot like a rap version of Dargon.


Who is Dargon?

Arucard
05-10-2005, 01:30 PM
Doesnt matter.

evilmenhavenosongs
05-10-2005, 01:30 PM
I'm really not a fan. I don't like the rhythmic speaking thing of the vocals. That's not to say I don't like the occasional song but that tends to be despite the vocal style not because of it and I lean towards songs featuring more samples etc. rather than focusing on the vocals. I really don't like RATM either. I like the riffs, the background music but the vocal style annoys the hell out of me as do the lyrics for the most part.

Shattered_Future
05-10-2005, 01:59 PM
The only rap i ever liked were The Beastie Boys.
And Bring The Noise by Public Enemy and Anthrax.

Rap has a certain talent level to it...however, the commercialization of rap is what bastardized the genre. Now, you can't turn on any music channel on tv and not see a rapper surrounded by women.

Old Rap = decent

New Rap = crap (of course, there are exceptions...the majority is crap though)

da qwikz
05-10-2005, 02:09 PM
Hey, Thanks for the downloads. If you can find it, download Flipsyde. He is from San Fran and he is awesome. The song I found (I got it off itunes) is called someday and it has some like spanish guitar parts behind it. It is an awesome track.

I also like the beasties and Eminem.

ATM
05-10-2005, 02:37 PM
Someone was talking about what the death metal equivalent of rap is, and that would be an artist such as Necro. I can upload some later.

Brewer14
05-10-2005, 02:38 PM
Up until this year, I hated rap, since all I ever heard was the stuff on the radio and MTV. There is alot of good rap out there though, you just have to find it.

Atmosphere- The River (Live) (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1N589FWFQNUUV1C3QP1JJ61CTW)

Ice Cube- Today Was a Good Day (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TH35FZUL7AK5075W1PWMEE6AF)

TheDMV
05-10-2005, 02:49 PM
My favorite rap group is Tribe Called Quest. I think I've mentioned them in the community thread once or twice. They're jazz rap, so I think People on here might like them better than the other kinds of rap.


:cool:
300

3rdplanet
05-10-2005, 02:59 PM
My favorite rap group is Tribe Called Quest. I think I've mentioned them in the community thread once or twice. They're jazz rap, so I think People on here might like them better than the other kinds of rap.


:cool:
300

How jazzy?

Could you upload some stuff by them?

Broken Arrow
05-10-2005, 03:13 PM
I like some rap.

Mostly stuff by Jay-Z, The Beastie Boys, Jurassic 5 and Run DMC.

I don't know much about it but I do from time to time listen to it.

I also like Pharell alot, but he's more of a producer from what I've been told.

Illmatic
05-10-2005, 03:17 PM
2Pac - Keep Ya Head Up (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25EYCNSJ2ZVTR1ZEIL1T59RFXJ)
2Pac - I Wonder If Heaven Got a Ghetto (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28Z7IAP3MYP0Z1LXOJNAWW3U4R)
2Pac - Picture Me Rollin' (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ONR10CM5GP1J24W26J18GTJUZ)
2Pac - I Ain't Mad At Cha (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0K5MQSZDVS3EG2JC2ZRHY3SKL0)
2Pac/Dr. Dre - California Love (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06GUEQIU2KE9F2JJXYJ7L7YAP0)

That should be a decent start for Pac. And yes, some of these have weird file names. I know that.

Alive
05-10-2005, 03:27 PM
2Pac - Keep Ya Head Up (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25EYCNSJ2ZVTR1ZEIL1T59RFXJ)
2Pac - I Wonder If Heaven Got a Ghetto (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28Z7IAP3MYP0Z1LXOJNAWW3U4R)
2Pac - Picture Me Rollin' (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ONR10CM5GP1J24W26J18GTJUZ)
2Pac - I Ain't Mad At Cha (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0K5MQSZDVS3EG2JC2ZRHY3SKL0)
2Pac/Dr. Dre - California Love (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06GUEQIU2KE9F2JJXYJ7L7YAP0)

That should be a decent start for Pac. And yes, some of these have weird file names. I know that.

Where the hell is Changes?

Illmatic
05-10-2005, 03:29 PM
Everybody and their mother has heard "Changes".

Also, two of the verses in "Changes" are swiped from "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto". Felt like pointing that out.

superpeer
05-10-2005, 03:54 PM
Heh, I think hit 'em up is one of his best songs, personally, so good choice with that.

I like quite a few rap songs, but there are not that many artists that I could enjoy a whole album of. My favourites are probably the Beastie boys, Eminem and Cypress Hill.

Overall, you could say I like rap, sometimes the use of language gets annoying though.

Brewer14
05-10-2005, 03:55 PM
Heh, I think hit 'em up is one of his best songs

123. Great song :thumb:

killswitchtony
05-10-2005, 03:56 PM
I'll have a shit load up in a bit

killswitchtony
05-10-2005, 03:58 PM
Everybody and their mother has heard "Changes".

it's true, thats the only rap song my mom likes

Woodstock
05-10-2005, 04:08 PM
I really only prefer rap more deeply rooted into Funk and to have more music composition than just a steady beat, such as Rappers Delight. I think that's an excellent song.

killswitchtony
05-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Jay Z:
Encore (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=091K51FEP9N3G2QJ1HT4X59BEX)
99 Problems (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=16K60COMP39LA1T6CLEVTJJR89)

Dead Prez:
Propaganda (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3M26TSBYKDUSS1PBPGQUDIPUA7)
Hip Hop (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24OUUUJ0ZFO4E0V7EFM8T2OJDS)

Big L:
Flamboyant (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HD280MWU4F6T2FGCTFLQ4K90J)
Ebonics (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=224D0ALVJCV6T3I3THZRFYB55W)

Benefit:
Super Mario Bros. Rap (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QLN58KYG1CJT032UGC3ZDD9G5)
If I Owned A Midget (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21G2B4R0EI0XG1RRVGMMQI3KI3)
So Sick (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EAHY8N06SUER2ONE0FW5RDNUW)

Blackstar:
K.O.S. (Determination) (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15EHQ3PKL764K2J49Y4N8EGMZ5)
Definition (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2Z3WFWPK1KS0P32LMG52I7AZF0)

Nas:
It Ain't Hard To Tell (remix) (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23AHZWC06SRIB1JIB0EBAJDMD0)
Just A Moment (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3R7R9CVM63FSQ22PWM2KGVTUR3)
One Mic (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GRT1RKJ7RO3G0WPXFL6WW298O)

Mos Def:
Sunshine (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3AO4O9VRWIP5Y037XUF33L5MSI)
Grown Man Business (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=125729R9VPBJR3376W47G22229)

Talib Kweli:
I Try (http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H1BR13P51I6017E2NDF8THYWB)
The Beautiful Struggle ( http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20IIDUEKGEZNA24Q04OMOQPWBW)

Arucard
05-10-2005, 04:51 PM
No matter what all these guys say, good job ATM. I wanna do JPOP as the next FG!

Kurtz
05-10-2005, 06:31 PM
Pretty good job ATM.

I love rap. I can't stand crunk though.

lunch998
05-10-2005, 06:58 PM
I like the Beastie Boys. And some other rap but no particular artists come to mind.

Broken Arrow
05-10-2005, 07:31 PM
Thanks killswitchtony.

I like the Super Mario rap, its funny.

Thor
05-10-2005, 07:32 PM
I actually love Public Enemy, Cypress Hill, N.W.A, and Run DMC.

killswitchtony
05-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Thanks killswitchtony.

I like the Super Mario rap, its funny.

no problem buddy

MaidenNut
05-10-2005, 08:00 PM
Jurassic 5 - A day at the Races (http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3G94WNZPANRX503XI6T49BBZFA)

Jurassic 5 - Flat Line (http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LGCBC3DMT8XF13L4O0N0QML03)

Jurassic 5 is good, I like jurass finish first the best, quality control is also a good song

PinkFreud
05-10-2005, 08:09 PM
jurassic 5 is one of the few rap groups i can listen to. my favorite song is freedom. i can also stand the roots, saul williams, the notorious big, big pun, and ludacris.

good job on the fg. very well researched and a ton of examples.

paco999
05-10-2005, 08:31 PM
Underground really doesn't bother me (I've heard little bits and pieces tho, I'm not really into it). The origins of poor hispanic and black youngsters expressing their problems in their songs, some of them actually very deep lyrics.

But then, the rap that is played on the radio on a day to day basis... well you know its just annoying and that's why probably alot of people dispise it.

It's not that I hate the originals ideals of rap, but the originaly ideals were lost as it gained popularit, because alot of it (not all talks about), smacking hoes, etc,etc. IMO

mr black
05-10-2005, 08:52 PM
Bar Tupac whom i believe is one of the best song writers ever, i cant really relate to any rap. Australian Hip Hop is good though...

smashingalice88
05-10-2005, 09:06 PM
I will never like rap , so sorry......
sorry to say im on the same boat

black\m/metal
05-10-2005, 09:27 PM
I like lots of rap, although I am saddened to see that nowadays it seems like everything is stereotyped and they lyrics have succumbed to "get crunk" and "drop it like its hot" I really like alot of older stuff, like Eazy-e, Lil Troy, Woodie, Brotha Lynch Hung, Gangstarr, J-5...ect....

trev913
05-10-2005, 09:37 PM
The only rap I ever really had a liking for was Ludacris, Mystikal, and 2Pac, and only one or two songs by each. I never really got into it.

Doop
05-10-2005, 09:52 PM
The Roots are fantastic, as is K-Os
K-Os is great, and Canadian I think.

Against Miik!
05-10-2005, 10:16 PM
Just go into it with an open mind. Get into the beat. Don't be embarrased if you are a metalhead. Listen to "The Corner" by Common, "Family Business" by Kanye West, Bridgin the Gap by Nas, and all of The Roots.

Jacaranda
05-10-2005, 10:18 PM
After reading that Josh Homme article awhile back about opening your mind to music and like it for the sound I find myself actually liking rap... the only person I still hate in rap is Ludacris and maybe Fat Joe and Nelly... just cause I saw Nelly live like 5 years ago and he decided he didn't want to do a concert that night and made me waste like 20$ (I was 11 back then so I liked rap :P)
NWA is one of my favorite rap guys same with The Roots.

Glitterati
05-10-2005, 10:19 PM
K-Os is great, and Canadian I think.

Yep.


/proud.

Damn, I'm getting tons of files from here. Awesome F.A. :)


I'm only recently taking a like to rap, and I found I like Jay-Z, K-Os, Nas, N.W.A., Dre's solo stuff, Jurrasic 5, Snoop, some Cypress Hill, N.E.R.D., Outkast, and the Beastie Boys. Not bad for someone who just got into rap, eh :) ?

I'm listening to Straight Outta Compton as we speak.

insearchofsomething11
05-10-2005, 10:29 PM
i posted this else where so http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LPHMJAW2TCNE0R79X1ZK9B5OC

the roots... illadelph half life... enjoi

Ganondorf
05-11-2005, 12:51 AM
Thanks for you guys posting all these songs :)

I already liked a handful of rap artists, and a lot of this stuff is really good. Kinda annoys me how a lot of people are saying they don't like rap because of the mainstream artists, because we all know the mainstream rock scene is so much better :rolleyes:

The Essential
05-11-2005, 01:00 AM
why is rap in a rock and metal forum? :confused: ?

ATM
05-11-2005, 01:02 AM
why is rap in a rock and metal forum? :confused: ?

Because I wanted to expose rock and metal fans to rap.

I appreciate all the comments, guys. I'm glad to see some of you uploading songs and sharing the wealth.

If I even broadened one persons mind with this FG, I'll be satisfied.

Iai
05-11-2005, 05:54 AM
Am I still going to be helping with the full FG later on, or have you and Illmatic got it covered?

Rothmans
05-11-2005, 06:09 AM
I like rap and hip - hop I like De la soul a lot but I havnt given rap or hip hop that much site so I will check it out.

Bartender
05-11-2005, 06:39 AM
How jazzy?

Could you upload some stuff by them?

Don't think this was answered, so;

A Tribe Called Quest - Phony Rappers (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09NIL4IM29RRH06CKHQS5YJONO)

A Tribe Called Quest - The Jam (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NOLJNI4NE8WZ2AG9LIBHIEG9J)

A Tribe Called Quest - 1nce Again (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2GX83AEM0ERZH209G272N6C9R5)

Not necessarily their best tracks, since I don't have what seems to be considered their best album.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 06:49 AM
Doesnt matter.

Instead of wasting that post with a useless comment you could've awnsered my question.

Bartender
05-11-2005, 06:51 AM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/member.php?u=83748

Rothmans
05-11-2005, 07:07 AM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/member.php?u=83748

Why did you post LordDargon's profile?

Bartender
05-11-2005, 07:11 AM
Because Kosta asked who he was.

freakmeeko
05-11-2005, 07:14 AM
Rap isn't a genre of music. It is an element commonly used in hip-hop. If rap was a genre, you'd have to call (at some time or another) these rap artists:
Aerosmith
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
The Who

Bartender
05-11-2005, 07:16 AM
No you wouldn't.

Rothmans
05-11-2005, 07:21 AM
Rap isn't a genre of music. It is an element commonly used in hip-hop. If rap was a genre, you'd have to call (at some time or another) these rap artists:
Aerosmith
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
The Who

How?

ThrashMaster27
05-11-2005, 07:24 AM
Rap isn't a genre of music. It is an element commonly used in hip-hop. If rap was a genre, you'd have to call (at some time or another) these rap artists:
Aerosmith
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
The Who

Just cause a band incorporates a different style into their music doesn't make them part of that genre. Public Enemy sampled Slayer songs, but I wouldn't call them Thrash metal.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 07:56 AM
Digable Planets
Rebirth Of Slick (Cool Like That) (http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RDVWRP3O600S29DHQIXP2KD2R )
It's Good To Be Here (http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TGG27BQV28H003FM7L0316CIO)

Quasimoto
24-7 (ft. Medaphoar) (http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=368CZA9B4UW6Z2QZJBSHV40AMB)
Astro Travellin' (http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=078EJ3ONRSKR81D2MUWHQK2TRY )

Mr Lif
Succes (ft. Aesop Rock) (http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=368CZA9B4UW6Z2QZJBSHV40AMB )
Iron Helix (ft. Insight) (http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=14E1N2O2OJYS53JQ8NBLFWRHRY)

Check dat **** yo'.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 07:57 AM
Rap isn't a genre of music. It is an element commonly used in hip-hop. If rap was a genre, you'd have to call (at some time or another) these rap artists:
Aerosmith
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
The Who


And a form fo music can't be an element of the culture. Right.

MattyBlade
05-11-2005, 08:53 AM
Rap is great. I first started listening to it back in 93' or so with the release of "gangstas paradise" by Coolio. I love alot of older rap music but, I find the "new" stuff of today to be waaaaaaay to over done/over played and are by far making WAAAAAAAAAY too much money. NwA, ghetto boys, eazy e(solo) are probably my favourite rap/rap groups of all time however Tupac and biggie are closely behind. Every commercial rap artist of today (50 cent, the game, g(ay)-unit) is just coping on the style of these artists and is completely unoriginal.

to sum it up: Old rap = good
New rap = no good

Interstate
05-11-2005, 09:04 AM
I've become a big fan of rap recently. Stuff like Notorious B.I.G and NWA are among my favourite artists. I've been listening to 'Ready To Die' by Notorious BIG non stop for days now - every song is great. - basically I love all the old school stuff, can't stand the new rap thats coming out - 50 Cent etc. no matter how much I've tried to.

joas
05-11-2005, 09:15 AM
I read somewhere that rap actually started with MC's scratching records and rhyming inbetween recordings they'd put on for audiences, of which most of the time were jazz recordings (since it was still fairly big). Just thought I'd throw that in.


Rap stems from teh j4zz oh noes!


And, I've liked it for a little while, or the beats at least-- it's cool to hear it thrown in with some more rock-style riffs and guitar solos over it can be pretty interesting to try (and sound pretty good).

Kosta
05-11-2005, 11:16 AM
I've become a big fan of rap recently. Stuff like Notorious B.I.G and NWA are among my favourite artists. I've been listening to 'Ready To Die' by Notorious BIG non stop for days now - every song is great. - basically I love all the old school stuff, can't stand the new rap thats coming out - 50 Cent etc. no matter how much I've tried to.


Just check out the Quasimoto or Mr Lif stuff I posted. It doesn't sound at all like 50 Cent and it's new... just indie.

KittensInMicrowaves
05-11-2005, 01:31 PM
I like Obie Trice, Young Buck, Eminem, Young Bloodz, and Lil Jon.....

they are all pretty good rappers I feel, my brother is obsessed with rap, he could probably respond to this thread better

Ganondorf
05-11-2005, 02:22 PM
Kanye West is good, y'all need to check out The College Dorpout if you haven't already.

funk_rock_jazz_drummer
05-11-2005, 02:24 PM
tupac. the roots. Dr. Dre. Jay - Z. Xzibit. Nas. Run DmC. Kurupt. Snoop Dogg. Nate Dogg. Mos Def. Dizzee Raskal.

are my personal favorites.

I hate his ego. I hate his image. And i hate what he stands for. But i gotta give it to him: eminem is the best lyricist rap has and will probably ever see.

Illmatic
05-11-2005, 02:28 PM
eminem is the best lyricist rap has and will probably ever see.

I'm going to assume this is a joke.

ATM
05-11-2005, 02:52 PM
Am I still going to be helping with the full FG later on, or have you and Illmatic got it covered?

I just went ahead and threw it together, but if you have anything to add, feel free to add it here, or get at me on MSN and I will edit it in.

3rdplanet
05-11-2005, 03:14 PM
Don't think this was answered, so;

A Tribe Called Quest - Phony Rappers (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09NIL4IM29RRH06CKHQS5YJONO)

A Tribe Called Quest - The Jam (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NOLJNI4NE8WZ2AG9LIBHIEG9J)

A Tribe Called Quest - 1nce Again (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2GX83AEM0ERZH209G272N6C9R5)

Not necessarily their best tracks, since I don't have what seems to be considered their best album.

Ah thank you.

I have listened to them now, not quite doing it for me.

killswitchtony
05-11-2005, 03:17 PM
I'm going to assume this is a joke.
i'm gonna' hope its a joke

i2 enegade
05-11-2005, 03:46 PM
Excursions (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CYM7YK5MD9QQ3MRRXN6Y8DGIA)
Scenario (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NP8Q3AUR7WA83G08IC291I5XQ)
What (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LUZFJDK0HKXI2NAIZU1PB90BX)
Buggin' Out (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=33NQCO5FULSZF0AO2VW3G9YXJ4)
Steve Biko(Stir it up) (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MUBT78WW658K2TM0OKH931P35)

Some more tracks by A Tribe Called Quest.The first four tracks are off The Low End Theory, which has to be one of the greatest records put out. The last one is my favorite song off of Midnight Marauders.

ATM
05-11-2005, 04:06 PM
Demigodz - The Godz Must Be Crazy

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D5BMO5E2IWCS1QPT4G0RLE5AK

Aesop Rock - Oxygen

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LA64R5HPJ6T50VOL5IC6NCGHY

Cunninlynguists - 616 Rewind

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39TNEAXDYLG5L3KJE6YSNMUXC3

Broken Arrow
05-11-2005, 04:22 PM
616 Rewind was my favourite out of the 3.

Thanks again.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 04:25 PM
Demigodz - The Godz Must Be Crazy

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D5BMO5E2IWCS1QPT4G0RLE5AK

Aesop Rock - Oxygen

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LA64R5HPJ6T50VOL5IC6NCGHY

Cunninlynguists - 616 Rewind

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39TNEAXDYLG5L3KJE6YSNMUXC3


Out of those, I never liked Aesop. He annoys me to death. He was good on the Lif song, though.

Anyway, The Demigodz probably has/had some of the best punchline rappers, ever. Louis Logic is a flawless rapper. Apathy sounds like the biggest ******* in hip-hop (in a good way) and Celph is the most hardcore yet funny rapper of them all.

616 Rewind I love, too. Tonedeff started the song amazingly.

RockRevival
05-11-2005, 04:26 PM
N.W.A rules.

Public Enemy and Run DMC are pretty good.

Illmatic
05-11-2005, 05:35 PM
Out of those, I never liked Aesop. He annoys me to death.

My respect for you++

I'll upload some stuff from Illmatic later tonight.

BludgeonySteve
05-11-2005, 05:58 PM
Some rap is good. None of the generic, melody-less crap on MTV, but the good stuff.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 06:33 PM
eminem is the best lyricist rap has and will probably ever see.


Technically, he's not bad at all. He has a good breath control, stable flow and witty punchlines. But overal, he is terrible rapper. Greatest lyricist? Come on. You obviously haven't heard the greatness that is Ras Kass.

Nature Of The Threat

Download that song, and honestly try to tell me that Eminem comes even remotely close to this.

Tash from Tha Alkaholiks is still the best overal rapper to me, though.

My respect for you++


Thank God I'm not alone.

The only time I ever liked him was on the Mr Lif song I posted. And he only did the chorus, anyway.

Iai
05-11-2005, 06:35 PM
Technically, he's not bad at all. He has a good breath control, stable flow and witty punchlines. But overal, he is terrible rapper. Greatest lyricist? Come on. You obviously haven't heard the greatness that is Ras Kass.
He talks great lyrics, and he mentions Ras Kass. Now there's the sing of a man who knows his shit.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 06:46 PM
He talks great lyrics, and he mentions Ras Kass. Now there's the sing of a man who knows his shit.

You, sir, are awesome for liking Ras Kass. I was the biggest Ras Kass groupy ever when I was 14 (haha, 2 years ago). I started listening again to him recently. I can't believe how flawless he is. Instead of sacrificing his lyrics for a good flow, he just improved his flow and delivery. And now, he's the best at what he does.

Razzy and Tash should record a song together some time.

Anyway. Someone should post Nature Of The Threat, Interview With A Vampire, or Van Gogh by Ras Kass.

I think I will tomorow. It's late here.

ATM
05-11-2005, 07:24 PM
I forgot all about Rass Kass. I used to really dig him.

Tash is great, as well. I always look forward to his verses in Alkaholiks songs.

Bartender
05-11-2005, 07:28 PM
Technically, he's not bad at all. He has a good breath control, stable flow and witty punchlines. But overal, he is terrible rapper.

How does that work?

Kosta
05-11-2005, 07:38 PM
I forgot all about Rass Kass. I used to really dig him.

Tash is great, as well. I always look forward to his verses in Alkaholiks songs.


It's my favorite group. Coast 2 Coast is the best rap album I ever heard. Too bad Tash wasn't on "Hit And Run". It's hilarious how J-Ro's considered the star of Tha Alkaholiks, although the true lyrical genius was Tash. J-Ro's just decent.

Too bad they broke up.

How does that work?


****ty voice, dumb lyrics, boring and overused subject matter.

ATM
05-11-2005, 07:43 PM
It's my favorite group. Coast 2 Coast is the best rap album I ever heard. Too bad Tash wasn't on "Hit And Run". It's hilarious how J-Ro's considered the star of Tha Alkaholiks, although the true lyrical genius was Tash. J-Ro's just decent.

Too bad they broke up.




****ty voice, dumb lyrics, boring and overused subject matter.

Another good rapper is Defari. Heard of him?

Kosta
05-11-2005, 07:47 PM
Another good rapper is Defari. Heard of him?


I listed him earleir in this topic. Look Into My Eyes is one of my favorite songs. He's cocky, but I like him. His second album was a bit boring, but his first is a west coast underground classic.

Killing Spree is an amazing song as well. Hell, the whole Likwit Crew is awesome. Likwit has been my favorite crew since I started listening to hip-hop. Phil Da Agony, Tha Alkaholiks, Lootpack, Defari, King Tee. Great collective. Too bad Xzibit went pop after his second album, though. He was a great addition to the crew.

ATM
05-11-2005, 07:49 PM
Xzibit used to be good, but he definantly went pop.

I've got the Lootpack cd laying around my room somewhere.

Kosta
05-11-2005, 07:53 PM
Xzibit used to be good, but he definantly went pop.

I've got the Lootpack cd laying around my room somewhere.


Yeah, it's like Xzibit rapped about his future self when he recorded "Paparazzi". Great song, though.

I'm basically collecting Madlib's work. So I listen to the Lootpack on a weekly basis - used to be daily, but I'm in an emo, post-rock, math-rock, electronica, death metal and noise phase lately - but I have the Lootpack's album, their EP and their rarities collection.

DeusExMachina
05-11-2005, 08:16 PM
Rap is awesome. Thank you very much ATM.

ATM
05-11-2005, 08:25 PM
Yeah, it's like Xzibit rapped about his future self when he recorded "Paparazzi". Great song, though.

I'm basically collecting Madlib's work. So I listen to the Lootpack on a weekly basis - used to be daily, but I'm in an emo, post-rock, math-rock, electronica, death metal and noise phase lately - but I have the Lootpack's album, their EP and their rarities collection.

I'm into a lot of electronica and death metal lately as well. It's nice to see somebody with diverse tastes like mine :cool:

i am the robots
05-11-2005, 08:39 PM
Good thread sir, that's basically a sample of every CD of my brother's that I haven't taken out of my basement, for rap I'm really just a fan of Wu-Tang, Red Man, EPMD, Def Squad, Eminem, D12, Tupac, Notorious BIG, Wu-Tang Solo Careers (Ex. Ghost Face Killah - Iron Man, Gza - Liqued Swords, Rza - Bobby Digital, Method Man - Tikal), K-os, Nas, and a few morew that have slipped my mind :-/.

black\m/metal
05-11-2005, 08:47 PM
[/QUOTE]to sum it up: Old rap = good
New rap = no good[QUOTE]

THANK GOD SOMEBODY AGREES! although there is exception to this rule
i stand by it for the most part.

36Dritzlfists
05-11-2005, 10:20 PM
Kanye West is good, y'all need to check out The College Dorpout if you haven't already.

Kanye West's College Dropout is a great cd that Everybody can realate to, especially if your a colleeg dropout like myself, Kanye has a great delivery style and has some very intelligent raps.

Zesty Mordant
05-11-2005, 10:55 PM
Tash from Tha Alkaholiks is still the best overal rapper to me, though.


Man, Tash is indeed great. He has some killer lyrics and probably has one of the most distinctive voices in the whole genre- He actually sounds drunk when rhyming.

hafez
05-12-2005, 12:58 AM
i'm sick of the ignorance but i'm glad more and more people are opening their eyes and thinking before they speak. i personally like most of the rhymesayers crew and some of anticon and def.jux

ATM
05-12-2005, 02:04 AM
56!!!!!!

Jacaranda
05-12-2005, 07:09 AM
I've rediscovered The Grey Album! Jay-Z+Beatles= Great.

Kosta
05-12-2005, 08:21 AM
I'm into a lot of electronica and death metal lately as well. It's nice to see somebody with diverse tastes like mine :cool:


Same. I just look at it as music and only use the genres to describe my current moods. Genres are useless labels, anyway.

Man, Tash is indeed great. He has some killer lyrics and probably has one of the most distinctive voices in the whole genre- He actually sounds drunk when rhyming.


Haha yeah. And he's so energetic. His delivery in his first verse of "All The Way Live" is so extremely flawless. It always is.

Kosta
05-12-2005, 08:28 AM
THANK GOD SOMEBODY AGREES! although there is exception to this rule
i stand by it for the most part.


People that say that usually know nothing about underground rap.

Rap released after 1991 in general is better than anything released before, although there are a few exceptions like EPMD, King Tee, Slick Rick and such.

Neurotoxin
05-12-2005, 05:21 PM
King Geedorah - Next Levels feat. Lil' Sci, ID 4 Winds & Stahhr

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DRAUGVNOH53G0RE70KUQD8PA6

I suggest checking out this song if you want some real, good hip hop.

rinkydinky
05-12-2005, 06:03 PM
Classic Snoop Dog which is much better than his new stuff.

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2577YM6B4ZF8L1YCXDB707ADO8

guitarslinger64
05-12-2005, 07:30 PM
I like some rap.

Enimen is my favroite personally.

I cant stand Eminem. I'm only fifteen and i go to school with a bunch of people who dont know a bass from their *** and it pisses me off when they say that hes the most talented musician they know

RoCKinG STANTON
05-12-2005, 07:35 PM
YO YO YO!

sry i just had to say that.

morrissey
05-13-2005, 01:58 AM
I'm just getting into rap, I've tended to shy away from it because it was what my brothers were into so I rebelled from it. Odd, I know. MX has been a HUGE influence in me finding out about rap artists, and the ones I like so far are very mainstream (Kanye West, Talib Kweli, Common, Jurassic 5, the Roots, A Tribe Called Quest and so on), but I hope to delve further into the genre.

I'm of the persuasion that people slag mainstream rap off to easily - even those who are generally fans of rap say things along the lines of "yeah mainstream is crap, but the underground stuff is great". As I've said, I don't have much exposure to underground rap (I hope to), but there are some gems in the mainstream too. Even artists who I tend to not like (Jay-z, as one example) do still have some great material in their catalogues. The people who follow the whole "rap is crap!" mentality usually avoid pop as well though, so that shows the merit of their opinion to me.

I have also recently been enjoying groups such as the Gorillaz who blend rap with other styles... maybe a simple first step for those who have avoided to the genre?

Nice FA, ATM. Oh and I don't know how things usually work in here, but I think it's a great idea to have FAs that are outside of R&M. An easy introduction to a new style of music to people who might not have been initially interested - I'm all for it.


edit: oh, and I forgot to mention: despite his lacking beats, I quite enjoy the Streets. And Dizzee Rascal.

RazorsInTheNight
05-13-2005, 02:19 AM
Im a big rap fan espcially groups with intelegent lyrics like A Tribe Called Quest, Immortal Technique, Common, Jedi Mind Tricks I also have a soft spot for NWA and Public Enemy and occasionally some Beastie Boys.

RazorsInTheNight
05-13-2005, 02:26 AM
Excursions (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CYM7YK5MD9QQ3MRRXN6Y8DGIA)
Scenario (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NP8Q3AUR7WA83G08IC291I5XQ)
What (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LUZFJDK0HKXI2NAIZU1PB90BX)
Buggin' Out (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=33NQCO5FULSZF0AO2VW3G9YXJ4)
Steve Biko(Stir it up) (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MUBT78WW658K2TM0OKH931P35)

Some more tracks by A Tribe Called Quest.The first four tracks are off The Low End Theory, which has to be one of the greatest records put out. The last one is my favorite song off of Midnight Marauders.

Spread the ATCQ I say. Excursions is one of my all time favourite rap songs.

Ledmetalicbeatle
05-13-2005, 04:46 AM
Rap is great. I first started listening to it back in 93' or so with the release of "gangstas paradise" by Coolio. I love alot of older rap music but, I find the "new" stuff of today to be waaaaaaay to over done/over played and are by far making WAAAAAAAAAY too much money. NwA, ghetto boys, eazy e(solo) are probably my favourite rap/rap groups of all time however Tupac and biggie are closely behind. Every commercial rap artist of today (50 cent, the game, g(ay)-unit) is just coping on the style of these artists and is completely unoriginal.

to sum it up: Old rap = good
New rap = no good
Whats up with all this new stuff sucks old stuff is better??? You people obviously don't look into this stuff very well. It's not that old is better and new sucks it's just that old stuff use to be popular and now you have to look for good music.

Interstate
05-13-2005, 06:07 AM
Just check out the Quasimoto or Mr Lif stuff I posted. It doesn't sound at all like 50 Cent and it's new... just indie.

Ok I'll check it out - thanks :thumb:

Convectuoso
05-13-2005, 06:33 AM
I think the one thing that annoys me most about rap is thelack of instruments.

If they put some instrumental stuff in the background then I might consider listeniong to it but until then, nope sorry

Iai
05-13-2005, 08:07 AM
I think the one thing that annoys me most about rap is thelack of instruments.

If they put some instrumental stuff in the background then I might consider listeniong to it but until then, nope sorry
The Roots?
Black Eyed Peas?
Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
Talib Kweli?
Mos Def?
Wyclef Jean?
Lauryn Hill?

Seriously, open your ears. And, more importantly, drop your stupid prejudice against non-acoustic instruments.

stonesour-is-awesome
05-13-2005, 08:17 AM
I will never like rap , so sorry......
I agree with you :thumb:

ThrashMaster27
05-13-2005, 08:36 AM
The Roots?
Black Eyed Peas?
Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
Talib Kweli?
Mos Def?
Wyclef Jean?
Lauryn Hill?

Seriously, open your ears. And, more importantly, drop your stupid prejudice against non-acoustic instruments.

Exactly right. Bass is a MAJOR part of rap, aswell as many other instruments.

Rothmans
05-13-2005, 02:13 PM
Sorry for the useless information but may 29th is my birthday :cool:

Kosta
05-13-2005, 03:52 PM
Exactly right. Bass is a MAJOR part of rap, aswell as many other instruments.


No it's not. The basis of rap is basically DJ's cutting up older songs, mix them, put them over a drumcomputer generated drum pattern, and let rappers rap over it.

Maybe 2 or 3% of the hip-hop community uses real instruments.

Bartender
05-13-2005, 03:58 PM
Kosta, how familiar are you with Jedi Mind Tricks?

ATM
05-13-2005, 04:00 PM
Kosta, how familiar are you with Jedi Mind Tricks?

You looking for an album reccomendation?

Kosta
05-13-2005, 04:01 PM
Kosta, how familiar are you with Jedi Mind Tricks?


Very. I like them. Only for the beats, though. I always thought Vinnie's lyrics were either psuedo-intellectual, or overused punchlines. Overal great group, though.

Stoupe's the reason I like them. His beats are amazing. Especially War Ensemble, which is still my favorite song of theirs.

Bartender
05-13-2005, 04:01 PM
You looking for an album reccomendation?

No, I'm just confused about the tracklisting on one of their albums (Legacy of Blood).

Kosta
05-13-2005, 04:04 PM
No, I'm just confused about the tracklisting on one of their albums (Legacy of Blood).


Don't have that album, though. So sorry, can't help.

Iai
05-13-2005, 06:21 PM
real instruments.
That attitude REALLY irritates me.

Bartender
05-13-2005, 06:53 PM
Very. I like them. Only for the beats, though. I always thought Vinnie's lyrics were either psuedo-intellectual, or overused punchlines. Overal great group, though.

Stoupe's the reason I like them. His beats are amazing. Especially War Ensemble, which is still my favorite song of theirs.

He has his moments, but yeah, on the whole it's the music I like more than the lyrics, I think.


Any help (from anyone) appreciated with this tracklist, anyway.

Kosta
05-13-2005, 06:57 PM
That attitude REALLY irritates me.


Bah, it's not my attitude. I just read it so much, I started saying it myself. But you know what I mean.

RazorsInTheNight
05-13-2005, 07:01 PM
Very. I like them. Only for the beats, though. I always thought Vinnie's lyrics were either psuedo-intellectual, or overused punchlines. Overal great group, though.

Stoupe's the reason I like them. His beats are amazing. Especially War Ensemble, which is still my favorite song of theirs.

I fully agree, I espcially like Violent By Design, some great tunes on that album. I find the lyrics somewhat interesting although they seem to overuse the same sort of material.

Iai
05-13-2005, 07:03 PM
Bah, it's not my attitude. I just read it so much, I started saying it myself. But you know what I mean.
I know. I assumed from your intelligence in your other posts that it was just a slip of the tongue.

RazorsInTheNight
05-13-2005, 07:04 PM
He has his moments, but yeah, on the whole it's the music I like more than the lyrics, I think.


Any help (from anyone) appreciated with this tracklist, anyway.

I dont own the album but this is the tracklist off amazon.

1. Intro
2. Age of Sacred Terror
3. Scars of the Crucifix
4. Death Falls Silent (Interlude)
5. Saviorself
6. On the Eye of War [Julio Cesar Chavez Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
7. Darkest Throne (Interlude)
8. Worst
9. Verses of the Bleeding
10. Beyond the Gates of Pain
11. Farewell to the Flesh (Interlude)
12. And So It Burns
13. Spirit of Hate (Interlude)
14. Me Ne Shalto
15. On the Eve of War [Meldrick Taylor Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
16. Winds Devouring Men (Interlude)
17. Philosophy of Horror
18. Of the Spirit and the Sun (Interlude)
19. Before the Great Collapse

Bartender
05-13-2005, 07:07 PM
I fully agree, I espcially like Violent By Design, some great tunes on that album. I find the lyrics somewhat interesting although they seem to overuse the same sort of material.

On Legacy of Blood at least, he seems a little preoccupied with Islam. He's generally good, though, so I don't mind. I quite like the lyrics (except the frequent references to killing faggots).


I dont own the album but this is the tracklist off amazon.

1. Intro
2. Age of Sacred Terror
3. Scars of the Crucifix
4. Death Falls Silent (Interlude)
5. Saviorself
6. On the Eye of War [Julio Cesar Chavez Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
7. Darkest Throne (Interlude)
8. Worst
9. Verses of the Bleeding
10. Beyond the Gates of Pain
11. Farewell to the Flesh (Interlude)
12. And So It Burns
13. Spirit of Hate (Interlude)
14. Me Ne Shalto
15. On the Eve of War [Meldrick Taylor Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
16. Winds Devouring Men (Interlude)
17. Philosophy of Horror
18. Of the Spirit and the Sun (Interlude)
19. Before the Great Collapse

That's the problem, though. That's the tracklist on Amazon, and on the back of the case, but there only appear to be sixteen tracks on the CD.

Iai
05-13-2005, 07:08 PM
First person to make a Deicide joke about track #3 on that wins a....

....actually, don't.

Bartender
05-13-2005, 07:10 PM
Yeah yeah, that was my first thought too. It's good though, so I didn't bother.

Kosta
05-13-2005, 07:34 PM
This is my favorite group. Tha Alkaholiks.

Note: One song is with Xzibit, but, this was Xzibit 10 years ago. He didn't suck back then. Actually, he was one of the best rappers of his time.

Tha Alkaholiks
-All The Way Live (ft. Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest and King Tee) (http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27A2VM3AAGD9T04L0MIJ3M16MS)
-Read My Lips (http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26L578Y5EHTZY3HVUW55D9ONDU)
-Hit And Run (ft. Xzibit) (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LHTTKHQHI6QD2THFUGYHQ7YAC)

God, I love this group.

I know. I assumed from your intelligence in your other posts that it was just a slip of the tongue.

Haha thanks.

and on the back of the case, but there only appear to be sixteen tracks on the CD.


Keep listening after the last track, maybe they're hidden tracks?

Oh and by the way. Why wasn't Delinquent Habits mentioned before in this topic? Those guys are awesome. Great west coast party rap.

Bartender
05-13-2005, 07:41 PM
Keep listening after the last track, maybe they're hidden tracks?


I don't think so :-/ There is a hidden track tacked onto the end of Before the Great Collapse, but that's all. The missing tracks seem to be Verses of the Bleeding and the two featuring GZA.

Kosta
05-13-2005, 07:50 PM
I don't think so :-/ There is a hidden track tacked onto the end of Before the Great Collapse, but that's all. The missing tracks seem to be Verses of the Bleeding and the two featuring GZA.


Christ, the irony. Both songs that feature the best rapper on that whole album are missing.

Bartender
05-13-2005, 07:54 PM
Don't rub it in :(

I'm just hoping to find out whether it's a big mistake and the tracks don't actually exist (listed by accident), or what.

Kosta
05-13-2005, 07:56 PM
Don't rub it in :(

I'm just hoping to find out whether it's a big mistake and the tracks don't actually exist (listed by accident), or what.

According to AllMusic, they should be on there.

supra_speed
05-14-2005, 06:09 AM
I cannot even stand the sight of that guy.
i agree

Moses
05-14-2005, 02:28 PM
123.
It helps broaden peoples perspectives.


I think we should do a classical/romantic FG once.

podbassist
05-14-2005, 03:01 PM
i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.

Brewer14
05-14-2005, 03:25 PM
i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.

Did you not even read the thread or something?

ATM
05-14-2005, 03:34 PM
Did you not even read the thread or something?

I'm assuming he just read the title of the thread and nothing else.

Kosta
05-14-2005, 04:33 PM
i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.

Yeah, but you kike POD.

Iai
05-14-2005, 04:36 PM
I think we should do a classical/romantic FG once.
I'd be well up for contributing to that.

Brewer14
05-14-2005, 06:27 PM
I'm assuming he just read the title of the thread and nothing else.

Yeah, Im guessing thats the case too.

and rap > POD :thumb:

-Listy-
05-14-2005, 06:57 PM
NP - Natural born Killa - NWA.

Iai
05-14-2005, 07:06 PM
I haven't seen Eric B & Rakim mentioned yet, though surely they must have been.

Paid In Full = utter classic. Rakim easily has one of the best flows I've ever heard - maybe the best.

Glitterati
05-14-2005, 08:27 PM
i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.

You should be in another forum!

ATM
05-14-2005, 08:28 PM
I haven't seen Eric B & Rakim mentioned yet, though surely they must have been.

Paid In Full = utter classic. Rakim easily has one of the best flows I've ever heard - maybe the best.

Yea, I completely forget about Rakim. He is a genius.

Illmatic
05-14-2005, 08:29 PM
Yea, I completely forget about Rakim. He is a genius.

He's not the only one you forgot about...

Nah, I'm just yankin' your chain.

ATM
05-14-2005, 08:30 PM
He's not the only one you forgot about...

Nah, I'm just yankin' your chain.

:lol:

I know, I know.

Go easy on me.

Jetpelkey54
05-14-2005, 10:21 PM
to the person that wanted to have instruments in the songs ( too lazy too put it in quotes, sorry) listen to "Bring tha noize" by Public Enemy and Anthrax, Anthrax plays and Public Enemy raps over their playing ( at least in the beginning.

Kosta
05-14-2005, 10:21 PM
I haven't seen Eric B & Rakim mentioned yet, though surely they must have been.

Paid In Full = utter classic. Rakim easily has one of the best flows I've ever heard - maybe the best.

I don't know. It's more like.. I respect Rakim for basically taking flows, rhyme schemes, and overal stucture to a newer and higher lever, but, the dude hasn't progressed since Don't Sweat The Technique, which is my favorite album of theirs. Sure, most people dislike it because it didn't have as much hystoical value as their older stuff. But, Rakim's rapping progressed and improved a lot untill he parted ways with Eric B.

Now, I think of him as a generic rapper that basically recycles every rhyme he ever wrote since the beginning of his solo career, with exactly the same flow and the same rhyme scheme.

Basically, I respect Rakim a lot for what he's done for rap music - 'cause he was basically the first to be creative with rhyme schemes and structure - but since he started, better rappers have come to take it to an even higher level. Like, Tash, Gift Of Gab, Percee P, Chali 2na, Pharoahe Monch, Aceyalone and Tonedeff.

Kosta
05-14-2005, 10:25 PM
to the person that wanted to have instruments in the songs ( too lazy too put it in quotes, sorry) listen to "Bring tha noize" by Public Enemy and Anthrax, Anthrax plays and Public Enemy raps over their playing ( at least in the beginning.


I don't even understand why people care for actual instrumentation in music. Why should a whole genre change to fit their listening habits for them to like it, instead of them just being more openminded towards the music.

I don't think most rock or metal fanatics understand what hip-hop production methods mean to music. How those methods basically changed the face of music. Altering previously written music, manipulate it, and turn it into a whole new song. I think that's extremely creative, if you think about how hip-hop started in 1972.

Kosta
05-14-2005, 10:31 PM
Yeah yeah, I know, 3 posts in a row. But.

There should be more appreciation for the hip-hop producers in this topic. Everyone mentioned the rappers, but if think about it, the beats are actually what defines the style of music, not the vocal style.

Madlib, DJ Shadow, DJ Spinna, Dan The Automator, E-Swift, RZA, Prince Paul, Butterfly, Celph Titled, Rjd2, El-P, DJ Hi-Tek (in his underground days, especially Black Star),, are all incredible.

ZEROthirtythree
05-14-2005, 10:41 PM
Even though Lil John is Gangster Rap, i like him alot.

Lil John is not Gangster Rap

Dancin' Man
05-14-2005, 10:43 PM
So who wants to do the next FG? peter.mchugh@gmail.com if you're interested or just say it here.

insearchofsomething11
05-14-2005, 10:47 PM
Lil John is not Gangster Rap


PREACH!

PepsiMetal
05-15-2005, 01:06 AM
I've been more of a rap person a few years ago, but thats basically because I didn't listen to much rock/metal and didn't know much of it. I really liked Tupac, Eminem, etc. but when I started listening to rock/metal rap has just began to be boooring. I dont think I'll ever again listen to rap as I used to. But I probably wont ever listen to pop punk either unless something comes out that matches the rock and metal I listen to.

Iai
05-15-2005, 10:16 AM
I don't know. It's more like.. I respect Rakim for basically taking flows, rhyme schemes, and overal stucture to a newer and higher lever, but, the dude hasn't progressed since Don't Sweat The Technique, which is my favorite album of theirs. Sure, most people dislike it because it didn't have as much hystoical value as their older stuff. But, Rakim's rapping progressed and improved a lot untill he parted ways with Eric B.

Now, I think of him as a generic rapper that basically recycles every rhyme he ever wrote since the beginning of his solo career, with exactly the same flow and the same rhyme scheme.
I haven't actually heard ANY of Rakim's material post-DSTT, except for his guest part on that Truth Hurts track.

Iai
05-15-2005, 10:18 AM
Madlib, DJ Shadow, DJ Spinna, Dan The Automator, E-Swift, RZA, Prince Paul, Butterfly, Celph Titled, Rjd2, El-P, DJ Hi-Tek (in his underground days, especially Black Star),, are all incredible.
123 of all of that.

Bartender
05-15-2005, 10:36 AM
I've only (knowingly) heard a minority of those guys - DJ Shadow, Madlib, the Automator, RZA, RJD2..what I imagine are the better known ones there - so would anyone care to give me some recommendations for those others?

Iai
05-15-2005, 10:40 AM
Well, like Kosta said, for DJ Hi-Tek, check Black Star.

And for Prince Paul, obviously, you've gotta check 3 Feet High & Rising. And the Handsome Boy Modeling School stuff. I'm pretty sure you already have those, though.

On another note - much love for the Dust Brothers (who produced Paul's Boutique by the Beasties, and Odelay by Beck).

Bartender
05-15-2005, 10:44 AM
Ah yeah, I already have 3 Feet High and Rising. Didn't know the name, though.

Kosta
05-15-2005, 02:51 PM
I haven't actually heard ANY of Rakim's material post-DSTT, except for his guest part on that Truth Hurts track.


It's good, but it's so repetetive, it gets boring rather quickly. I didn't bother to buy any of his post-Eric B stuff. I'm not at all denying his skills to actually be a great rapper, he just lost the thing that made him so great: creativity.

I've only (knowingly) heard a minority of those guys - DJ Shadow, Madlib, the Automator, RZA, RJD2..what I imagine are the better known ones there - so would anyone care to give me some recommendations for those others?

DJ Spinna:

Polyrythm Addicts - Rhyme Related (great group, my favorite femcee Apani B Fly Emcee is part of that group. Pretty hard to find, though)
Jigmastas - Infectious

Butterfly:
Check out anything by Digable Planets. He was member of that group.

El-P:

Check out Cannibal Ox, Company Flow, or his solo stuff.

E-Swift:

Member of Tha Alkaholiks, so check out Tha Alkaholiks' stuff, some recommendations:

Who Dem Niggas
Hit And Run
All The Way Live
Read My Lips
I Got It Bad Y'All


And for Prince Paul, obviously, you've gotta check 3 Feet High & Rising. And the Handsome Boy Modeling School stuff. I'm pretty sure you already have those, though.


Also;

Gravediggaz - Six Feet Deep
Stetsasonic - In Full Gear

Seriously, Gravediggaz is an awesome group. And Stetsasonic is the first ever hip-hop band. And one of the most underrated groups in hip-hop history.

ATM
05-15-2005, 02:59 PM
I bought Rakim's album, 18th Letter, and although it didn't blow me away, it is a solid album. He has some very nice, intelligent rhymes.

A-Life-Less-Plagued
05-15-2005, 03:31 PM
I LOVE NWA. AND RUN DMC AND PUBLIC ENEMY. WOOO RAP.

simplephotographinthesun
05-15-2005, 03:39 PM
my opinion/perspective changed when i heard tha crossroads by bone thugz

3rdplanet
05-15-2005, 06:23 PM
Who are some groups that a fan of The Roots may like?

Kosta
05-15-2005, 07:23 PM
Who are some groups that a fan of The Roots may like?


Black Star
Digable Planets
Common (well, not a group, but, you get my point)
Mos Def (same)

ATM
05-15-2005, 07:27 PM
Who are some groups that a fan of The Roots may like?

De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
Common
Talib Kweli
Blackalicious
Mos Def
Black Eyed Peas
Jurassic 5
Pharcyde

Bartender
05-15-2005, 07:42 PM
What's everyone's opinions of Afu Ra here?

I've not heard him, so I can't say. I just found out about him earlier today (spotted an album of his in a mail-order thing I was looking through) and looked up some reviews. Some said he was excellent, others said he was abysmal and had managed to ruin a practically un-ruinable record with his debut album (un-ruinable due to the number of excellent guest artists and producers he had to hand). Then, coincidentally, I saw someone mention him here on MX later on in the same day. So I wonder.

ATM
05-16-2005, 01:42 AM
What's everyone's opinions of Afu Ra here?

I've not heard him, so I can't say. I just found out about him earlier today (spotted an album of his in a mail-order thing I was looking through) and looked up some reviews. Some said he was excellent, others said he was abysmal and had managed to ruin a practically un-ruinable record with his debut album (un-ruinable due to the number of excellent guest artists and producers he had to hand). Then, coincidentally, I saw someone mention him here on MX later on in the same day. So I wonder.

I know that I have heard him, and liked what I heard, but I can't remember the names of the songs :/

All I remember is that he has a good flow.

3rdplanet
05-16-2005, 02:12 PM
Cheers for those reccomendations, will look into those groups/artists.

Neurotoxin
05-16-2005, 07:05 PM
Did anyone listen to the song I uploaded?

Nuke Broadcast
05-16-2005, 09:33 PM
i dont know if anyones heard of them or not, but two of my favorite rappers are necro and ill bill. not every song is golden, but they did some work with vovoid and hatebreed. it can get repetitive, but the way they move troguh words..its amazing. the content of the songs is definately not what youll be expecting. ive got almost all of their cd's, if you want to hear a sample.

The_Bends
05-16-2005, 09:41 PM
i love atmosphere

Them + Jurassic 5, The Roots, Blackalicious, Black Star and (Old) Common are the only artists I like.

Like, not really listen to... Well, used to.

ATM
05-16-2005, 10:16 PM
i dont know if anyones heard of them or not, but two of my favorite rappers are necro and ill bill. not every song is golden, but they did some work with vovoid and hatebreed. it can get repetitive, but the way they move troguh words..its amazing. the content of the songs is definately not what youll be expecting. ive got almost all of their cd's, if you want to hear a sample.

Necro is out of his mind.

My Sweet Dreams is my favorite track from him.

Do you like Non-Phixion?

Zesty Mordant
05-16-2005, 10:23 PM
I've been in a heavy Madlib period right now. I didn't really hear much of him until around this time last year when I got the Madvillian album, and then a few months ago I got Shades of Blue which is pretty amazing.

Lately I've been downloading and listening to anything Madlib-related: Quasimoto, Lootpack, Jaylib, Yesterday's New Quintet- and its all pretty decent stuff.

killswitchtony
05-16-2005, 10:56 PM
Them + Jurassic 5, The Roots, Blackalicious, Black Star and (Old) Common are the only artists I like.

Like, not really listen to... Well, used to.

did you not like Talib Kweli & Mos Def on their own?

RazorsInTheNight
05-17-2005, 12:13 AM
Who are some groups that a fan of The Roots may like?

Try Common and A Tribe Called Quest

Iai
05-17-2005, 05:11 AM
Them + Jurassic 5, The Roots, Blackalicious, Black Star and (Old) Common are the only artists I like.

Like, not really listen to... Well, used to.
What's wrong with Common's new stuff?

Kosta
05-17-2005, 11:43 AM
I've been in a heavy Madlib period right now. I didn't really hear much of him until around this time last year when I got the Madvillian album, and then a few months ago I got Shades of Blue which is pretty amazing.

Lately I've been downloading and listening to anything Madlib-related: Quasimoto, Lootpack, Jaylib, Yesterday's New Quintet- and its all pretty decent stuff.


Quas is some of my favorite music, ever.

Checkout Declaime, he worked with him, too. And Dudley Perkins, Declaime's alter ego.

Kosta
05-17-2005, 11:45 AM
i dont know if anyones heard of them or not, but two of my favorite rappers are necro and ill bill. not every song is golden, but they did some work with vovoid and hatebreed. it can get repetitive, but the way they move troguh words..its amazing. the content of the songs is definately not what youll be expecting. ive got almost all of their cd's, if you want to hear a sample.


Well, they're extremely well known in underground circles, sooo.

I like some early Necro, not much But it's quite enjoyable at times. Non-Phixion isn't bad, but msot of their stuff sounds the same and is rather tiring/generic. Not bad, though.

ATM
05-17-2005, 01:51 PM
Any Handsome Boy Modeling School fans?

Iai
05-17-2005, 03:32 PM
Abso-frickin-lutely. Though, I still haven't heard their first record in full. What I have heard is even better than White People, which is some going considering how much I love White People.

*ponders what he just wrote*

Jam2Me
05-17-2005, 04:49 PM
The Roots utterly dominate all of my rap listening intake.

ATM
05-17-2005, 05:23 PM
Abso-frickin-lutely. Though, I still haven't heard their first record in full. What I have heard is even better than White People, which is some going considering how much I love White People.

*ponders what he just wrote*

White People is so great.

I am uploading a track by Busdriver for you guys, it's blowing me away right now.

Iai
05-17-2005, 05:26 PM
Awesome. I keep hearing about him.

Brewer14
05-17-2005, 05:43 PM
White People is so great.

I am uploading a track by Busdriver for you guys, it's blowing me away right now.

Imaginary Places?

Bartender
05-17-2005, 05:44 PM
Awesome. I keep hearing about him.

Are you a Tony Hawks' Player?

ATM
05-17-2005, 05:48 PM
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12GUGHQ3JSYJR0ZBMIW2O0I930

Brewer14
05-17-2005, 05:51 PM
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12GUGHQ3JSYJR0ZBMIW2O0I930

aha, how did I know? :p

anyway, good song.

ATM
05-17-2005, 05:55 PM
Did anyone want to hear what Necro sounds like?

Bartender
05-17-2005, 05:57 PM
Yeah, I'd like to. I've looked at some reviews of his stuff, and it sounds..interesting.

Iai
05-17-2005, 05:59 PM
Are you a Tony Hawks' Player?
Not since THPS 2.

Iai
05-17-2005, 06:00 PM
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12GUGHQ3JSYJR0ZBMIW2O0I930
m4a?!?!?!? :mad:

ATM
05-17-2005, 06:11 PM
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TM1P9BWVZ7GY11H6SS8HPN4GB

Caution: Explicit lyrics :lol: