Featured Genre 4: Rap

[tehfilter]

What about the underground **** like Necro, Jedi Mind Tricks and Louis Logic

[Bartender]

Did you read the thread at all?

ATM - Downloaded that track, but haven't listened to it yet, as I'm leaving the computer again in a minute.

[tehfilter]

Did you read the thread at all?

ATM - Downloaded that track, but haven't listened to it yet, as I'm leaving the computer again in a minute.
no.

[Iai]

b&.

[Magicaltroll]

Gangster's Paradise is frickin' awesome.
The only rap song I REALLY like is that^. I mean, I can listen to some rap, but not alot. Except for that song that is, it rules :thumb:

[Kosta]

What about the underground **** like Necro, Jedi Mind Tricks and Louis Logic

All of them have been mentioned before. Jesus. Funny how you're trying to tell some users here something about underground rap.

We mentioned Necro. We mentioned JMT, and Louis Logic as well - talking about the Demigodz.

[Kosta]

Any Handsome Boy Modeling School fans?

Prince Paul and Dan The Automator both kick my ***. Definitely.

Their song with Encore - from Executive Lounge (great ****ing group, if you're interested in them, I can send some stuff, it's laid back west coast underground stuff, rather obscure to some) - called Waterworld is amazing.


Did anyone actually check out any mp3s that I posted?

[ATM]

I had most of them already :cool:

[black\m/metal]

I might have missed it, but for beats, I havnt seen Scott LaRock (sp?) mentioned yet-boogie down productions. And I saw Jedi Mind Tricks and they were **** good the other day. Anybody here like Doctor Octagon/Kool Keith or whatever alias you want to go by. Also has anybody ever listen to Jayo Felony?

[ThePanicInNeedlePark]

Its just "gangsta" rap which has really lost the essence of rap. No one says anything in gangster rap, its just bigging each other up...

[Big-Bird]

I love Slick Rick

[Robert Crumb]

Gang Starr. Have they been mentioned?

[hatelivesforever]

i am not gonna be mean or anything about this but i rly do think the ppl who said that rap was only singing about money women and sex and so on well they are right but i gues its a style of music and i dont think i will listen to it... i just hate it i hate their topics i wish theyd change it but otherwise like i cant say nething bad.. bye bye

[ATM]

i am not gonna be mean or anything about this but i rly do think the ppl who said that rap was only singing about money women and sex and so on well they are right but i gues its a style of music and i dont think i will listen to it... i just hate it i hate their topics i wish theyd change it but otherwise like i cant say nething bad.. bye bye

:lol: You are like a walking stereotype.

[Zesty Mordant]

Gang Starr. Have they been mentioned?

I don't think so but good thing you did. I don't really know much of their stuff, but I do know that "The Miltia" is ****ing sweet.

"One of us, equals many of us/ Disrespect one of us, and you'll see plenty of us."- such a good line.

Guru's Jazzmatazz is not bad either.

[Bartender]

I just saw that in a Virgin megastore for £5 a couple of days ago. Should I buy it?

[ThrashMaster27]

Yeah, it's a good album. When I first heard No Time To Play, I picked it up.

As for Afu Ra! I like his first album, he always had something about him. His second album wasn't up to scratch though. Also looked like a guy from Oz. Anyway, he was good on the JTD albums aswell.

As for me being corrected on the issue of Groups not playing their own instruments. I'm aware of that fully and also that Rap is a HUGE sampling industry. Do I have anything else to add? Oh yeahhhh, check out Blak Twang!

[krisco5387]

Well, I must agree to a certain extent. It was all fine until you said something about African culture being related to rap. You want REAL African culture? Listen to the Blues. The Blues came out in the 1930s and was based on field and sorrow songs used to convey their saddness as they slaved away for our Caucasion race. Rap is by far NOT African-American Culture. I need to strongly disagree with that, as I just did a research paper on Jazz and it stated the thesis above. THAT'S ALL!

[Iai]

Blues became jazz, jazz became beat poetry, beat poetry became rap.

Nice try, but you fail.

[IAJP]

It annoys me how little some people know about rap.
"IT'S ALL MANUFACTURED, NO TALENT REQUIRED, *SNORT SNORT SNORT*, ALL RAPPERS ARE GAY LOL"
A lot of rap is very personal, check out Public Enemy, the best rap group of all time, (ever, no buts)

[ATM]

Who is your favorite battle rapper?

Mine is probably Copywrite. He writes such good punch lines.

[Iai]

It annoys me how little some people know about rap.
"IT'S ALL MANUFACTURED, NO TALENT REQUIRED, *SNORT SNORT SNORT*, ALL RAPPERS ARE GAY LOL"
A lot of rap is very personal, check out Public Enemy, the best rap group of all time, (ever, no buts)
I don't know if you could call Public Enemy 'personal'. They were way too political. Agreed about them being the best rap group ever, though.

[freestyle1k86]

AHAHAHAH, I wonder how many people here who are being polite, talked about how much they hate rap in other threads.

[lobsterjohnson]

I think rap takes much talent to make and perform. It's just that I can't listen to it. I don't hate it but I would rather be listening to metal or hardcore.
id rather listen to rap than most hardcore

[Robert Crumb]

I just saw that in a Virgin megastore for £5 a couple of days ago. Should I buy it?

Jazzmatazz is pretty cool, definitely worth checking out if you can get it for a reasonable price. But it's no substitute for a Gang Starr album.

[Zesty Mordant]

This is cool how the purpose of the thread has changed direction into a huge "What I've been listening to lately" for rap purposes. And the fact that its right in the middle of R&M is even cooler.

[Nuke Broadcast]

Well, they're extremely well known in underground circles, sooo.

I like some early Necro, not much But it's quite enjoyable at times. Non-Phixion isn't bad, but msot of their stuff sounds the same and is rather tiring/generic. Not bad, though.

ive also noticed this, but i love the way they take beats from other well known songs and make their lyric magic on them.

Necro is out of his mind.

My Sweet Dreams is my favorite track from him.

Do you like Non-Phixion?

havent really had a chance to look too much for his stuff yet, as i went after gore tex first.

[Kosta]

Well, I must agree to a certain extent. It was all fine until you said something about African culture being related to rap. You want REAL African culture? Listen to the Blues. The Blues came out in the 1930s and was based on field and sorrow songs used to convey their saddness as they slaved away for our Caucasion race. Rap is by far NOT African-American Culture. I need to strongly disagree with that, as I just did a research paper on Jazz and it stated the thesis above. THAT'S ALL!


And black culture expresses itself with hip-hop. Hip-hop is the modern day black subculture. Rap - and other elements - is used by the people that live that culture to express themselves.

If you don't think that the Black Star album is the embodiment of a culture in music. I feel sorry for you.

Blues became jazz, jazz became beat poetry, beat poetry became rap.

Nice try, but you fail.


Actually.

Blues became rythm and blues. Rythm and blues became reggeae. Reggae became rap.

DJ Kool Herc was a reggae DJ before he invented hip-hop.

Rapping was around in the early 1900s when black slaves protested by rapping their protest songs. Some country singers rapped, too. It was before beat poetry.

[Brewer14]

id rather listen to rap than most hardcore

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[Illmatic]

Kosta: I'd like to think funk had some influence on rap.

[Robert Crumb]

It certainly did. After all, Herc was spinning James Brown and other funk artists.

I would say there is a real coherent musical evolution when it comes to hip hop. That's the beauty of it.

[SlashHalen]

I like some rap ub tnot most of it. The biggest thing that bugs me about them is that they and others refer to them and themselves as artists. If they were artists of music than thats all they would do instead of sticking there fingers in everyting i.e making a clothing line, starting TV shows, being in the soft drink industry (crunk juice) like all that **** then they refer to themselves as artists? what do they really do they tlak aobut the hoe they ****ed then cut last night , and going to a whore ouse (candy Shop) i personally think its really stupid and gay. But i can give props to old school hip hop like a lot of that stuff is good lik The Chronic, beastie Boys, Sugar HIll gang. but tahts really it

[Illmatic]

I like some rap ub tnot most of it. The biggest thing that bugs me about them is that they and others refer to them and themselves as artists. If they were artists of music than thats all they would do instead of sticking there fingers in everyting i.e making a clothing line, starting TV shows, being in the soft drink industry (crunk juice) like all that **** then they refer to themselves as artists? what do they really do they tlak aobut the hoe they ****ed then cut last night , and going to a whore ouse (candy Shop) i personally think its really stupid and gay. But i can give props to old school hip hop like a lot of that stuff is good lik The Chronic, beastie Boys, Sugar HIll gang. but tahts really it

Stop talking.

[ReadBooks]

i want to say this. im a black male from portsmouth, va - the hood, if you want to call it that. now, i listen to a little bit of the nu metal for when i do stuff like lift weights, i have an open mind. now what you people who make these broad generalizations about what you see on mtv and hear on the radio fail to realize is that you are just getting the tip of the iceberg.

alot of rap is just rock and roll from a different perspective. lil jon and the eastside boys for example, listen to it. its headbangers music, just from "our" point of view. from "our" culture. thats what we know, and its how we express ourselves.

dont forget about RAP BANDS like- the roots, who are POETS with thier OWN LIVE BAND...not just musical instruments on a computer. with rock artists recording in acoustic studios with all these man made variables, they might as well do it on the computer.....

and why not delve into other ventures like commercials, clothing lines, etc etc etc? Sean John is a $400 MILLION dollar business, it seems like perfect business sense to me. money is out there to be made, why not make it!?

this is a conversation which will never have an end in the near future, i just came by to let you allknow what was on my mind at this particular time.

[SuicideHotlinePlzHold]

dont forget about RAP BANDS like- the roots, who are POETS with thier OWN LIVE BAND...not just musical instruments on a computer

Dont forget Tu Pac, he is the ultimate diamond in the rough..or was the ultimate diamond in the rough, all the good rappers seem to die before their time.

[Kosta]

Kosta: I'd like to think funk had some influence on rap.


Because DJ Kool Herc accidently left his reggae collection in Jamaica - no joke.

I was mainly talking about production technique here, considering that's what set hip-hop apart from other music early on.

[ATC]

This thread is amazing. I just went through each and every page and checked out so many of those artists. Right in the middle of r&m. hehe. Thanks a million.
Whats scary is that I havent heard of half these artists who, for the most part, make better music than most of the rap and hardcore etc thats famous. Mommy, its true, there is an underground.
/thwacks self on head and walks out of thread

[Iai]

alot of rap is just rock and roll from a different perspective. lil jon and the eastside boys for example, listen to it. its headbangers music, just from "our" point of view. from "our" culture. thats what we know, and its how we express ourselves.
You should have used DMX as the example. :)

[Mystique7]

Whats the difference between West side, East side, and Gangster Rap, anyway?

[Iai]

West side is rap made on the West coast. East side is the opposite, obviously.

And from allmusic -

Gangsta rap developed in the late '80s. Evolving out of hardcore rap, gangsta rap had an edgy, noisy sound. Lyrically, it was just as abrasive, as the rappers spun profane, gritty tales about urban crime. Sometimes the lyrics were an accurate reflection of reality; other times, they were exaggerated comic book stories. Either way, it became the most commercially successful form of hip-hop in the late '80s and early '90s. In the process, gangsta rap caused considerable controversy, as conservative organizations tried to get the albums banned. Even when the activist groups forced certain bands off major labels, the groups continued to make their music uncensored.

[Kosta]

Whats the difference between West side, East side, and Gangster Rap, anyway?


The place it came from. Besides, most west coast rap has more of a p-funk influence to it. But, that all started with EPMD on the East, ironically.

Gangster rap is about gangster life, pretty much.

[Illmatic]

East Coast rap started out as pretty harmless stuff--Run-DMC, the Beasties, Biz Markie, etc. The king of East Coast was Russell Simmons and Def Jam. Then later on it moved into Gangsta Rap in the 90's with Biggie Smalls, Jay-Z, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, DMX, etc.

West Coast rap came Straight Outta Compton (yuk yuk yuk)--it was far angrier and more abrasive (signature West Coast rap: NWA, Ice-T); West Coast rap evolved into G-Funk in the 90's with the creation of Death Row records and the release of Dr. Dre's The Chronic.

[metalhead 4 good]

some of the ppl who listen to rap drive me to hate it

[Illmatic]

some of the ppl who listen to rap drive me to hate it

Funny, I hold the same opinion of metal.

[SmashingPumpkin]

Can't spell crap without rap. :)

[RazorsInTheNight]

Can't spell crap without rap. :)

Not funny

[TTTSNB]

the links won't work for me...

[morrissey]

the links won't work for me...
They must have had 25 downloads already (or it's been a week, but I'm too lazy to check the first page).

Just download the titles from an alternate source, they're worth it.

[Illmatic]

Can't spell crap without rap. :)

Survey says...

you're a fag

[j_brown_12]

illmatic=an awesome album *plays 'world is yours'*

[Kosta]

East Coast rap started out as pretty harmless stuff--Run-DMC, the Beasties, Biz Markie, etc. The king of East Coast was Russell Simmons and Def Jam. Then later on it moved into Gangsta Rap in the 90's with Biggie Smalls, Jay-Z, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, DMX, etc.

West Coast rap came Straight Outta Compton (yuk yuk yuk)--it was far angrier and more abrasive (signature West Coast rap: NWA, Ice-T); West Coast rap evolved into G-Funk in the 90's with the creation of Death Row records and the release of Dr. Dre's The Chronic.


West Coast rap came from Compton but wasn't angry. It started in the early '80s by the likes of the Egyptian Lover and The World Class Wreckin' Cru. It was electro-funk, a techno'ish hip-hop for people to dance to. The first form of gangster rap came from the East, too. Schoolly D actually started it. But, the first true gangster rap song was 6 In The Mornin' by Ice-T. And both Ice-T and NWA had completely different sounds. NWA was A LOT more P-funk inluenced. And underground West coast stuff (Pharcyde, Alkaholiks, Blackalicious, Freestyle Fellowship, Souls Of Mischief) had much more in common with the jazzy hip-hop from the East, than the West Coast funk from the West.

And East Coast started with block parties. Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five, Afrika Bambaata, etc. I'm surprised you didn't list Kurtis Blow. Run-DMC, Krs, Beasties, etc. Are more of a second wave, really. Also, Wu-Tang isn't gangster but hardcore rap.

[Kosta]

Can't spell crap without rap. :)


OMFGLOLROTFLMFAOBBQ

lolz and u cant spell metal without ETA. LOLZ i guess iron maiden R terroristsz.

[ThrashMaster27]

Has anyone got any Geto Boys songs on their comps. Preferably Crooked Officer. I lost my 'Till Death Do Us Part' album agessss ago. Anyone a fan of Scarface's solo stuff? I love The Diary, but the rest is a bit on and off.

NP: Roots Manuva - Evil Rabbit

[Kosta]

Has anyone got any Geto Boys songs on their comps. Preferably Crooked Officer. I lost my 'Till Death Do Us Part' album agessss ago. Anyone a fan of Scarface's solo stuff? I love The Diary, but the rest is a bit on and off.

I haven't listened to the Geto Boys in aaaages. Pretty good stuff, though.

[Forest_Fire]

All of this rap thread and no one uploaded a public enemy or NWA album?


/knows that someone probably did, but doesn't want to go back and read through the whole thread, but still hints at what he wants uploaded anyway

[Kosta]

All of this rap thread and no one uploaded a public enemy or NWA album?


/knows that someone probably did, but doesn't want to go back and read through the whole thread, but still hints at what he wants uploaded anyway


That's like uploading Metallica in a metal thread. Everyone knows those guys.

[Forest_Fire]

I know. But I don't want to go out and buy any cds for another month or two because I'm saving up for a bass I really want

[morrissey]

Then use alternate sources to get the songs.

[the_midnight_rambler]

i dont get how raps R&M

[morrissey]

i dont get how raps R&M
Read the thread, issue has been addressed.

[Iai]

i dont get how raps R&M
Seriously? Wow.

[Jimmy]

The only rap I'll listen to is MC Hawking. "All my shooting's be... drivebys" What a genius

[Moses]

i dont get how raps R&M
The R in R&M stands for Rap, didn't you know? :confused:

[Macdaddy]

Outkast are the new de la soul imo.

Reinvigorating hip hop and giving it a second wind. Also New Zealander Scribe is pretty good for some new stuff.

[ATM]

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1EM2OA8ZT02DH2GIDMWFPYB0OC

Handsome Boy Modeling School - White People

A great album.

[3rdplanet]

I like HBMS.

What do people think of DJ Premier? Just heard the name dropped.

[Robert Crumb]

DJ Premier is awesome, one of the best producers of the 90's.

[knockwurst_myband]

the roots are my favorite rap next to outkast :thumb:, along with old school and political rap(when rap wasn't always about the same generic topics, getting ***, the ghetto, and all that other bs) and the only new rap I like is probably the gorillaz.

[hafez]

I know. But I don't want to go out and buy any cds for another month or two because I'm saving up for a bass I really want

i have "Straight outta compton" if you really want

AIM: hafez06

[rbv]

I think that UK rap should be mentioned as I think bands such as The Streets have amazing lyrical talents and go beyond what most people think of rap. I would highly recommend downloading "dry your eyes mate" or "blinded by light" for anyone who enjoys good music

[ThrashMaster27]

I don't like the Streets, although I do like a fair bit of UK Rap. If anyone can pick up any early stuff from Blak Twang, I highly recommend it. There's also the more popular artists like Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Broke 'N' English, Braintax etc etc.

Anyway, yeah. It does deserve a mention.

[rbv]

awesome, I admit i am a bit uninformed when it comes to rap in general though, thanks :thumb:

[morrissey]

Yeah I really like the Streets.

[martyr of metal]

i only like beastie boys on the side

[hypocracy hater]

I like the Sugahill Gang, NWA, Jay Z and the bEASTIE bOYS.

[Interstate]

I haven't seen Eric B & Rakim mentioned yet, though surely they must have been.

Paid In Full = utter classic. Rakim easily has one of the best flows I've ever heard - maybe the best.

Brilliant album, one of my favourites.

On a random note - can anyone recommend which is the best album to buy by these artists/groups:

Mobb Deep
Jay Z
Onyx
Jedi Mind Tricks
Slick Rick
De La Soul (I have some songs off 3 Feet & Rising and I love them but I don't know whether the album is considered their best).

Thanks in advance! :thumb:

[Illmatic]

Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
De La Soul - 3 Feet & Rising

[Zesty Mordant]

Brilliant album, one of my favourites.

On a random note - can anyone recommend which is the best album to buy by these artists/groups:

De La Soul (I have some songs off 3 Feet & Rising and I love them but I don't know whether the album is considered their best).

Thanks in advance! :thumb:

Definately get 3 Feet High & Rising first. As well check out their most recent album, The Grind Date. Though it is certainly a departure from 3 Feet, it is nonetheless very impressive imo and kinda follows that path similar to Common, Talib Kweli, and Mos Def (if you're a fan of that).

[Interstate]

Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
De La Soul - 3 Feet & Rising


Definately get 3 Feet High & Rising first. As well check out their most recent album, The Grind Date. Though it is certainly a departure from 3 Feet, it is nonetheless very impressive imo and kinda follows that path similar to Common, Talib Kweli, and Mos Def (if you're a fan of that).

Thanks, both of you - I think I'll download some songs from those albums you mentioned (I think some songs I have are already from those albums) and then download/buy those ones. :thumb:

[Zesty Mordant]

For De La Soul, some suggestions for downloading:

3 Feet High & Rising:
Me, Myself, and I
The Magic Number
Potholes in my Lawn
Jenifa Taught Me (Derwin's Revenge)
Eye Know

The Grind Date:
Verbal Clap
Shopping Bags
The Grind Date
The Future
He Comes

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Eazy E - The Late, Great Godfather Of Gangsta Rap

Real Muthaphuckin G's (1993, It's On (Dre)187 Umkilla) :

http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AU9WWDIW428W325J1KP829K7N

[ThrashMaster27]

Don't step to these...

I love the line "Now tell me where the **** you found an anorexic rapper"

Cracks me up all the time.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Yeah, **** Snoop and Dre. Who the hell would choose 'Dre Day' over 'Real Muthaphuckin G's'? The beat, the flow, the disses are all superior. It was just a case of jumping on the bandwagon at the time.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

...and not to mention that Snoop is REALLY stale right now. If you hear the raps he does on 'Drop It Like It's Hot' and compare them to the likes of 'Tha Shiznit' you'll know what I mean.

[hafez]

I think that UK rap should be mentioned as I think bands such as The Streets have amazing lyrical talents and go beyond what most people think of rap. I would highly recommend downloading "dry your eyes mate" or "blinded by light" for anyone who enjoys good music

FIX UP LOOK SHAAAAAAaRRRRRRP

.....i rest my case

[Kosta]

Eazy E - The Late, Great Godfather Of Gangsta Rap



You fanboy. Schoolly D invented gangster rap.

[Kosta]

...and not to mention that Snoop is REALLY stale right now. If you hear the raps he does on 'Drop It Like It's Hot' and compare them to the likes of 'Tha Shiznit' you'll know what I mean.


And Eazy always was this great lyrical rapper, right? Give me a break. Snoop and Eazy both annoy me to death. Snoop never was a great rapper. He just made better music. Well, to most, and I can see their point. I can't stand that watered down "west coast G-funk" sound, though.

Eazy was a joke as a rapper. Good business man. But a terrible rapper. He didn't even want to rap in NWA at first because he knew he sucked.

[Iai]

FIX UP LOOK SHAAAAAAaRRRRRRP
Tuneage.

[Joe]

ok since this thread is rap i'm hoping someone in here might have 50 Cent "in da club"
because i need it for a TV production thingie.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Originally Posted by rbv
I think that UK rap should be mentioned as I think bands such as The Streets have amazing lyrical talents and go beyond what most people think of rap. I would highly recommend downloading "dry your eyes mate" or "blinded by light" for anyone who enjoys good music

I recommend the Mitchell Brothers who are a great UK rap team. They are the rappers who do the main part while the guy from the streets does his little backing parts on Blinded By Lights. They're also ****ing amazing.

[guitarded_chuck]

I will never like rap , so sorry......
I like how you posted that two seconds after the thread was made. Nice educated post.

I've just been getting into rap lately. I've always liked some of it off and on over the past few years, but never really got into it, because I'm not a fan of most of the mainstream hiphop. These days I can't stop listening to it. Good reccomendations.

[goonboy175]

Apologizes if this has been mentioned already, but is anyone an MF doom fan round these parts, operation doomsday is one of the best!

[Canadian-Guy]

You fanboy. Schoolly D invented gangster rap.

That he did.

[ekajsk8er]

You know what....the first type of music I was into was all RAP! Mainstream rap that is. I was big into Snoop Dogg, 2pac, Dr Dre, Ice Cube, and all the other mtv stuff. I would listen to the local rap station on radio and record the music onto tapes. I even went out and bought cds....it all came crumbling down in my freshmen/soph year when I started to listen to rock and metal and now I bearly ever give rap a listen.

Now I want to say that Rap has it's talents just as any genre does. It's your opinion on whether you think it has a lot of talent or bearly any. I think a lot of work goes into the studio and how to create the right beats for the right lyrics. You can't just lay a beat with Fruityloops and make everyone listen to it. It takes more than a simple program. It takes mastering and producing just as other music genres do. Sometimes rap groups will actually play the instruments themselves and record guitar licks, bass lines, drums, etc.

Now imo, rap right now is horrible....I'm talking about MTV (c)rap. I also want to separate rap from hiphop because I think there's differences. A lot of the rap you hear about on mtv is all about money, girls, drugs, surviving the hood, etc. In hip hop it's more about writing good lyrics, making good rhymes, using the right words, metaphors, and a whole lot of poetry. It's not easy to write hiphop lyrics. I also think hiphop takes a more personal approach to songwriting and not just about money, girls, and drugs. This is all just my opinion though.
yea rap right now sucks, i heard a 50 cent song last week and he ryhmed bit with bit about 20 times in a row and thats just god awful

i have to say though, i do like public enemy and run d.m.c so im not here just to make fun of rap

[Alive]

I like the Game's latest work, it's called Hate it or Love it, I think. Anyone else?

[Iai]

I quite like that track, yeah. Nothing too special, but enjoyable.

[Iai]

I recommend the Mitchell Brothers who are a great UK rap team. They are the rappers who do the main part while the guy from the streets does his little backing parts on Blinded By Lights. They're also ****ing amazing.
I heard their latest track - Harvey Nicks, I think? - and wasn't massively impressed. I'll keep my ears open for them though.

[Jacaranda]

I like the Game's latest work, it's called Hate it or Love it, I think. Anyone else?
That song changed my mind about the new rap thats coming out I actually like almost every new "gangster" rapper.

[RazorsInTheNight]

I can't stand The Game to be honest, anyone could rap as good as him and the lyrics are nothing special either.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

And Eazy always was this great lyrical rapper, right? Give me a break. Snoop and Eazy both annoy me to death. Snoop never was a great rapper. He just made better music. Well, to most, and I can see their point. I can't stand that watered down "west coast G-funk" sound, though.

Eazy was a joke as a rapper. Good business man. But a terrible rapper. He didn't even want to rap in NWA at first because he knew he sucked.

Pah, I knew he didn't invent it. And that's just what they call him on his CD :upset: . Hey, but Eazy DID improve greatly between Eazy Duz It and It's On, seriously. I don't think he's the best rapper of all time, of course, I hold that to Rakim. But I still respect the man greatly, and if you're familiar with his whole catalogue and what he's done, you'll grow to aswell.

[holmeise]

some rap is good if the message it conveys it a good one, political rap is good and alot of australian rap acts have the right idea, rap is also good when mixed with rock such as sum41, RATM,RHCP or goldfinger

[AblazeMySorrow]

tupac amaru shakur is teh best rapper. 1971-1996, R.I.P. Tupac Amaru Shakur a.k.a. Makaveli - The Don Killuminati. "i aint a killa but dont push me, revenge is like teh sweetest joy next to gettin pu ssy"

[LF96]

I didn't really like this essay-'thing' about rap. There's so much more to tell about the genre and stuff. There are WAAAAY better songs from Atmosphere to put up than Shoes (i.e. If I Was Santa Claus, The Woman With The Tatooed Hands, God Loves Ugly,...) if you ask me. But anyway, here are some songs I'd recommend:

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You)
Common - I Used To Love H.E.R.
Black Star ft. Common - Respiration
Edo G & Da Bulldogs - Love Comes And Goes
DJ Shadow - Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt & Midnight In A Perfect World (these are instrumentals but they're great)
A Tribe Called Quest ft. Leaders Of The New School - Scenario (THE ultimate posse cut in my opinion)
The Roots - Do You Want More?!!!??! (the song, the album is a must as well)
GZA - B.I.B.L.E. (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
Gang Starr ft. Inspectah Deck - Above The Clouds
...

:)

[Rockafella]

I love NWA and Public Enemy, but that's as far as I attempted to go when it comes to gangsta' rap.

[superpeer]

Can anyone upload **** tha police for me? (NWA) :)

I'd like to hear it.

[Hard_Rocker_Revived]

I've seen it a million times.

Somebody mentions rap, and about 20 comments follow with people saying how much they hate it, and how it isn't music. They claim that is just about money, killing, hoes, etc.

I can't really get angry with these people, for the sole reason that the radio is full of that bullshit. Someone will usually come along and say, "The underground has much better stuff." But without actually hearing some good rap, statements like that don't accomplish much.

So all I ask is that everyone gives rap an honest listen. If you like it, great, if not, then at least you have an educated opinion on it.

To understand rap, you need to know a little about the origin.

Rap is part of the hip hop culture, which also includes graffiti and break dancing. It came out of the South Bronx in the late seventies, stemming from funk and disco. It emerged as a form of self expression for the black and hispanic community in New York. Conditions in these neighberhoods were poor, and the way the people expressed this was through rap. Crews started to form, to give members identity, and this is deeply rooted in the hip hop culture.

Early rap recordings:

* Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DQ47TVCK9EV727DLDSHFSWQCY

* Grandmaster Flash - The Message

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28S7IWX4P8KBU22M9IOH4CNZ89

*Run DMC - My Adidas

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LSE6RTUNT57D0A1HVAYXR793K

*2 Live Crew - We Want Some Pussy

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=285JSDABNWTHM2JHQMZLMJSGWF


East coast rap:

*Beastie Boys - Fight For Your Right

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U0W2TQXCV1C11RTNWILVIF0HY

No Sleep Til Brooklyn -

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RB18LQ26X89H13Q7XEE0P0Z1P

*Public Enemy - Don't Believe the Hype

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EL3LZRKPUX8J2JCZLYF18W25B

*Notorious BIG - Machine Gun Funk

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1325TMUHYKOZN05GHMYJ96PO29

*Nas - One Love

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LOF7CQR49BP71U07YPNZGQ89I

*Wu Tang - Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothin' To **** Wit

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CHIV9VII20KM302WJ5D7FHVVX

Also check out Jay Z.

Gangsta rap:

*2pac - Hit 'Em Up

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O5HOMOYB97O13SFW7IFWANBEN

Also check out NWA.

Okay, now that you have a background, let's move into some of my favorites:

*Benefit - Proceed With Caution

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HLOTKBRZWX1K14227175DICSD

*De La Soul - Me, Myself and I

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XU3IUXPBVBSQ1LOEASY5MCF7B

Potholes in my lawn

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15OVV1YU2VU6B1F1HGOG5FNP23

*Edan - Rapperfection

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PUQH502RQDKR09IKOUTPSH3CY

-Rock an Roll

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DIQZBJ6Y5Q9E33Y5S4VL9DA2N

*Non Prophets - Tolerance Level

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M629CH9524Z53B2N2UWRCAT0B

*Atmosphere - Shoes

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=322FWM0BGJ0X51JTS9U1VQTFYF

*Propellerheards (featuring De La Soul) - Oh Yeah

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0IK0X0UR0SR238LTO3UIFVYU5

That should get you started. Enjoy.

-Special thanks to Bartender for help with this

A new FG should be ready by May 29th.


Rap isn't music. Rappers aren't musicians. Therefore this doesn't belong in the musicianforums.

[Tyler]

Can anyone upload **** tha police for me? (NWA) :)

I'd like to hear it.
Here ya go.

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NK2KOITQIG9T1IA9DAUY0BWNU

[Tyler]

Rap isn't music. Rappers aren't musicians. Therefore this doesn't belong in the musicianforums.
You are a faggot.

[ATM]

Rap isn't music. Rappers aren't musicians. Therefore this doesn't belong in the musicianforums.

sup walking stereotype

[Shootothrill]

tupac amaru shakur is teh best rapper. 1971-1996, R.I.P. Tupac Amaru Shakur a.k.a. Makaveli - The Don Killuminati. "i aint a killa but dont push me, revenge is like teh sweetest joy next to gettin pu ssy"


Dude, didn't that guy put out like 5 records AFTER he died?
:confused:

[Shootothrill]

I too was once a rap hater, but, due to the combination of how awesome the base sounds on my friends subs and the way that one of the members of outkast always thanked the good lord himself first and foremost at each of the numerous awards he received. Up until then i had pretty much the same opinions as Mr. Walking stereotype up there. But as i said, i'm comin around.

[Shootothrill]

I too was once a rap hater, but, due to the combination of how awesome the base sounds on my friends subs and the way that one of the members of outkast always thanked the good lord himself first and foremost at each of the numerous awards he received. Up until then i had pretty much the same opinions as Mr. Walking stereotype up there. But as i said, i'm comin around.

[Zesty Mordant]

Dude, didn't that guy put out like 5 records AFTER he died?
:confused:

I think its more like 13 now.

[superpeer]

Thanks, ATM. :)

[slashjunior]

I agree entirely with the thread starter.

Flip the coin around and fans of rap could pigeon-hole metal and say its all about slaying dragons or working for satan or whatever, castrating goats, slitting their wrists because of teenage angst and depression who all walk around in black with a pale complection on their faces. Or go on about prog bands sing about flowers and the trees and the earth.

However, fans of these genres know it isn't all like that. That's mainly what goes on in the mainstream. Its the same with rap. I don't judge metal by Slipknot or Limp Bizkit, so why should you judge the whole of the rap genre on someone like Chingy, Nelly or 50 Cent?

I notice a lot of people in rock also worry about the technicality of the instrumentalists and the fact they play instruments. A lot of rap groups are backed by jazz groups, which is arguably much more complicated than rock music.

Also who says a group of musicians must consist of guitar, bass, drums and maybe a keyboardist. Its formulas like these that annoy me the most, and rock fans reckoning they are more hardcore because they listen to rock. You're just the same lame trend follower just listening to rock and wearing the clothes to fit in with your peers and the same old cliches. It's a normal human thing to do to fit into groups which applies to all genres.

And while we are on the subject of rock, if it supposedly is more superior to this radio crap then why don't "average" listeners buy it and only the instrumentalists who apparently "understand" the quality of the music because they are technically proficient on their instruments? You can't blame record companies, MTV or radio either, the customer decides what they listen to. If people didn't like Eminem or Britney or whoever is hot at the moment then people wouldn't buy it, in turn MTV, record companies and record companies would start releasing more records that would suit the public more.

Rant over.

[ATM]

^ I like you.

[Bartender]

I didn't like how he went from "you shouldn't judge rap by it's mainstream stereotypes" to "You're just the same lame trend follower just listening to rock and wearing the clothes to fit in with your peers and the same old cliches."

[Alive]

Also who says a group of musicians must consist of guitar, bass, drums and maybe a keyboardist.



Definetly. Currently me and my friend are looking for a saxophonist to play in our band, and we play a lot of metal.

I think its more like 13 now.

and now one with Elton John! I like most of Tupacs work.

[BrokenSaint]

I want a vibrophone player in my band.. that'd be hardcore..

[guitar123]

**** Rap

[Zesty Mordant]

**** Rap

I know man, rap is like so gay. Its not even music.

[The Goth]

I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?

[The Goth]

You are a faggot.

F*ck you, prick

[ThrashMaster27]

I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?

I suggest you stop slitting your wrists for just a few seconds and actually listen to Rap that doesn't appear on MTV.

See how that works both ways.

[ATM]

A few albums to check out:

Charizma & Peanut Butter Wolf's Big Shots
deadprez - Let's Get Free
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Saul Williams - Saul Williams
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
3rd Bass - Derelicts Of Dialect
Zion I - Deep Water Slang 2.0
Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues
Gang Starr - Moment of Truth
Ice-T - O.G. Original Gangster
The Last Emperor - The Legend of Bigfoot
rjd2 - Loose Ends
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Soul Position - 8 Million Stories
Unknown Prophets - World Premier
Deep Puddle Dynamics - The Taste Of Rain... Why Kneel

[slashjunior]

I suggest you stop slitting your wrists for just a few seconds and actually listen to Rap that doesn't appear on MTV.

See how that works both ways.

It's funny because it's true.

[Iai]

A few albums to check out:

deadprez - Let's Get Free
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Saul Williams - Saul Williams
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Singled out the ones that I especially like.

Except Amethyst Rock Star is better than Saul Williams' self-titled, and The Low-End Theory is better than People's Instinctive.....

[Iai]

Hahaha. That 'The Goth' kid is the single worst poster I've ever seen on MX.

[Illmatic]

I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?

Then don't post ITT, fag.

[Alive]

I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?

oic

See here laddy, the thing is you havn't even paid attention to what this thread is about. You said exactly what the close minded anti-rap person says. You fail at common sense, goodnight.

[sonicst0rm]

meh, rap...

i do like techno tho

[ATM]

meh, rap...

i do like techno tho

And the award for the most intelligent post ever goes to...

[Daniel K]

I didn't read the whole thread, but I love Rap, and I don't know if anyone in this thread is from the bay area, so I got some recommendations. Almost everything I listen to is Underground bay area rap, with the exception of a few:

Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay

Probably a few other too, trying to think of all my CD's.

[Hendrix92]

i hate rap unless its funny.

lohanfreestyle.com

now thats what rap should me

[Illmatic]

You're stupid

[Hendrix92]

you got me illmatic.

[LF96]

The Low-End Theory is better than People's Instinctive.....
And Midnight Marauders is better than The Low End Theory. They're all three greatness tho. :)

[Iai]

Haha. You broke the link even more, and still didn't catch your bad spelling in the third line.

In any case, he was calling you an idiot because you're trapped in a mindset that rap music only has value if it's gimmicky.

[Iai]

And Midnight Marauders is better than The Low End Theory. They're all three greatness tho. :)
I haven't heard that one. I'll check it out. :)

[mmettalldemon]

i used to listen to some rap. then i picked up my dad's led zeppelin 2 album and threw out the 4 or 5 rap cd's i had

[Illmatic]

Thank you. Your post was a shining beacon of open-mindedness, and has been constructive to this thread. Go give yourself a pat on the back and down a few bleach smoothies.

[black\m/metal]

Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay


exactlyyyyyyyyyyy who i like! i've seen a few of them in concert too. good stuff.
this is the best list ive probably ever seen, i didnt know anybody else on mx listened to this too.
well, that made me happy.
+Jayo Felony.

[tazzdevil316]

and people wonder why rock fans...watever type you are get a bad name. Yeah many of us are open minded and give reasoned opinions...but there are sum who are hate mongerers and thats sad cos thats all the commercial world sees of us YOU'RE GIVING US ALL A BAD NAME AND GIVING PEOPLE AN EXCUSE TO HIT OUT AT US ALL.
Personally I see real rap as an artform that I dont personally appreciate, I wont bad mouth it cos i dont like it personally cos thats closed minded, just like they say metal is all noise and shouting (I SHOULD KNOW, I GET IT IN THE NECK FROM MY GF) well thats my rant for today, open your minds. please!

[Iai]

Great post.

Seriously.

[Kosta]

I didn't read the whole thread, but I love Rap, and I don't know if anyone in this thread is from the bay area, so I got some recommendations. Almost everything I listen to is Underground bay area rap, with the exception of a few:

Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay

Probably a few other too, trying to think of all my CD's.


Out of those I only really like Blackalicious, Dr Octagon, Del, Brotha Lynch Hung and Living Legends.

Still, when talking Bay, you should always mention Souls Of Mischief (and the rest of Hiero), Planet Asia, and Zion I.

Hell, I'm surprised you didn't mention Ant Banks and Too $hort, although I got out of that kind of stuff ages ago.

[Kosta]

I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?


Awesome avatar you got there. Honestly, how old are you?

[Kosta]

exactlyyyyyyyyyyy who i like! i've seen a few of them in concert too. good stuff.
this is the best list ive probably ever seen, i didnt know anybody else on mx listened to this too.
well, that made me happy.
+Jayo Felony.


Black metal heads liking Bay area gangster rap is a beautiful sight. Not that I like gangster rap - stopped listening to it when I turned 14 or something. This is just awesome.

[AblazeMySorrow]

ok u nerds. ******s i mean. itsd itme to get jiggi wit it.listen to tupac. or JIN. or RR. they cool. just liek an ice chest

[TTTSNB]

Does anyone have somethin from A healthy distrust by SageFrancis? I've heard about him and would like to check him out.

[Brewer14]

Does anyone have somethin from A healthy distrust by SageFrancis? I've heard about him and would like to check him out.

Sage Francis- Crumble (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A5LAWB1WSQ012R0ZQ4PTTJMHC)

[TTTSNB]

Sage Francis- Crumble (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A5LAWB1WSQ012R0ZQ4PTTJMHC)
Awesome man. Thanks.

[Brewer14]

Awesome man. Thanks.

No problem.

This isnt off his new CD but its good nonetheless

Sage Francis- Makeshift Patriot (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AWQRI2HGWPTL2P9QZ2OZ2OX1C)

[superjoe]

Ive heard some good rap songs, but 99% of all rap is just lame. I heard some song with this guy singing aobut how cool his 'ice' is...LAME.
Here is a small portion of lyrics from the previously mentioned song:

"I got so many rocks, on my chain and watch
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick
I know I'm da bomb, just look at my charms
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick"

This is just one example of bad rap lyrics, but these are pretty similar to every other rap song.

[Illmatic]

Ive heard some good rap songs, but 99% of all rap is just lame. I heard some song with this guy singing aobut how cool his 'ice' is...LAME.
Here is a small portion of lyrics from the previously mentioned song:

"I got so many rocks, on my chain and watch
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick
I know I'm da bomb, just look at my charms
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick"

This is just one example of bad rap lyrics, but these are pretty similar to every other rap song.

stfu

[Whatsisface]

I used to be a huge fan of rap, mostly early stuff like Run-DMC (they got some pretty cool guitar parts...) and gangsta stuff like 2pac, ice cube, etc. I don't listen to it anymore though. I think i became obsessed with rock when i started playing guitar. I think people should listen to rap once in a while, as with every other kind of music. Rap has actually really helped me write songs and poetry, and it gives people a good feel for rythms and beats. i'd still pick rock over rap any day, though.

[3rdplanet]

A friend just sent me a song by RJD2 called 'Ghostwriter', loved it.

[VeedBok]

the only rap group i really like is N.W.A and thats just cuz they ****in rule :)

[VeedBok]

the only rap group i really like is N.W.A and thats just cuz they ****in rule :)

I agree N.W.A is the only good rap group out there. Staight Outta Compton is dat **** yo

[ATM]

A friend just sent me a song by RJD2 called 'Ghostwriter', loved it.

RJD2 is awesome. Get some more if you can, especially the song The Horror.

[exoskeletal architect]

Ive heard some good rap songs, but 99% of all rap is just lame. I heard some song with this guy singing aobut how cool his 'ice' is...LAME.
Here is a small portion of lyrics from the previously mentioned song:

"I got so many rocks, on my chain and watch
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick
I know I'm da bomb, just look at my charms
I know I'm da ****, my chain hang down to my dick"

This is just one example of bad rap lyrics, but these are pretty similar to every other rap song.
it so pisses me off when ppl are so eagerly prepared to generalise,stereotype and wildly make assumption.
i appreciate rap music for what it is though i listen to mostly metal/indie.
to throw wild percentages is lame..in whose opinion is 99% of rap lame? is that a fact? a correlated figure? i think not...and to say those lyrics are similar to pretty much every rap song is new to me...such wild assumptions cannot be backed.

[Zesty Mordant]

I agree N.W.A is the only good rap group out there.

Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
De La Soul?
Blackalicious?
Jurassic 5?
Outkast?
Wu-Tang Clan?

[dest. Chaos]

I've seen it a million times.

Somebody mentions rap, and about 20 comments follow with people saying how much they hate it, and how it isn't music. They claim that is just about money, killing, hoes, etc.

I can't really get angry with these people, for the sole reason that the radio is full of that bullshit. Someone will usually come along and say, "The underground has much better stuff." But without actually hearing some good rap, statements like that don't accomplish much.

So all I ask is that everyone gives rap an honest listen. If you like it, great, if not, then at least you have an educated opinion on it.

To understand rap, you need to know a little about the origin.

Rap is part of the hip hop culture, which also includes graffiti and break dancing. It came out of the South Bronx in the late seventies, stemming from funk and disco. It emerged as a form of self expression for the black and hispanic community in New York. Conditions in these neighberhoods were poor, and the way the people expressed this was through rap. Crews started to form, to give members identity, and this is deeply rooted in the hip hop culture.

Early rap recordings:

* Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DQ47TVCK9EV727DLDSHFSWQCY

* Grandmaster Flash - The Message

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28S7IWX4P8KBU22M9IOH4CNZ89

*Run DMC - My Adidas

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LSE6RTUNT57D0A1HVAYXR793K

*2 Live Crew - We Want Some Pussy

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=285JSDABNWTHM2JHQMZLMJSGWF


East coast rap:

*Beastie Boys - Fight For Your Right

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U0W2TQXCV1C11RTNWILVIF0HY

No Sleep Til Brooklyn -

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RB18LQ26X89H13Q7XEE0P0Z1P

*Public Enemy - Don't Believe the Hype

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EL3LZRKPUX8J2JCZLYF18W25B

*Notorious BIG - Machine Gun Funk

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1325TMUHYKOZN05GHMYJ96PO29

*Nas - One Love

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LOF7CQR49BP71U07YPNZGQ89I

*Wu Tang - Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothin' To **** Wit

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CHIV9VII20KM302WJ5D7FHVVX

Also check out Jay Z.

Gangsta rap:

*2pac - Hit 'Em Up

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O5HOMOYB97O13SFW7IFWANBEN

Also check out NWA.

Okay, now that you have a background, let's move into some of my favorites:

*Benefit - Proceed With Caution

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HLOTKBRZWX1K14227175DICSD

*De La Soul - Me, Myself and I

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XU3IUXPBVBSQ1LOEASY5MCF7B

Potholes in my lawn

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15OVV1YU2VU6B1F1HGOG5FNP23

*Edan - Rapperfection

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PUQH502RQDKR09IKOUTPSH3CY

-Rock an Roll

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DIQZBJ6Y5Q9E33Y5S4VL9DA2N

*Non Prophets - Tolerance Level

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M629CH9524Z53B2N2UWRCAT0B

*Atmosphere - Shoes

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=322FWM0BGJ0X51JTS9U1VQTFYF

*Propellerheards (featuring De La Soul) - Oh Yeah

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0IK0X0UR0SR238LTO3UIFVYU5

That should get you started. Enjoy.

-Special thanks to Bartender for help with this

A new FG should be ready by May 29th.

screw you

[ATM]

screw you

Any reason for you disliking me?

[Six Foot Revolver]

screw you
Idiot, enjoy your ban :)

[Permanent Solution]

Any reason for you disliking me?
I'm thinking it was the lack of a new FG as that's bolded...maybe?

[Robert Crumb]

Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
De La Soul?
Blackalicious?
Jurassic 5?
Outkast?
Wu-Tang Clan?

Pfft. He was looking for good bands. Those are great bands. :)

[ATM]

I'm thinking it was the lack of a new FG as that's bolded...maybe?

:lol:

That must be it.

[AblazeMySorrow]

try Ruff Ryder to those so like some harcore gangsta rap, but not as extreme as Tupac Amaru Shakur

[xtheninjax]

a good gangsta rap song is uhh

M.E.M.P.H.I.S. by Three 6 Mafia if you guys ever feel the need to check that out

[jazzfenderboy]

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:

[Illmatic]

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:

Die.

[Steerpike]

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:

Here's a better idea. Instead of pretending to know what you're talking about, litsen to whatever you want and stop being an elitist prick.

[Bartender]

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:

Jazz is the last refuge of the untalented. Jazz musicians enjoy themselves more than anyone listening to them does.

[RazorsInTheNight]

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:

Interesting since alot of rap has jazz samples like ATCQ etc. I love jazz but each genre takes tallent, rap music is no exeption.

[Alive]

Here's a better idea. Instead of pretending to know what you're talking about, litsen to whatever you want and stop being an elitist prick.

That seems to be a pretty accurate statement. I concur.

[realitybreach]

Here we go. Rap in my opinion isnt very good. Thats my opinion but I wouldnt go as far as saying that the people who rap are untalented or that rap isnt music. Music is noise and you can make noise either with a machine or with your heart. Thats pretty much all I have to say on this subject.

[guitarded_chuck]

Have any of you guys heard of Roots Manuva? Great rap group thats pretty popular in England I think, but still pretty underground here in the West.

[ThrashMaster27]

Group? I was under the impression it was just one guy. I don't know about him being underground as such. Did work with with Chali 2na from Jurassic 5 on Run Come Save Me, so I'd assume he's known pretty well in the west.

Good music though. One of the UK's biggest artists I'd say.

[Robert Crumb]

Here we go.

There you went.

[Iai]

Have any of you guys heard of Roots Manuva? Great rap group thats pretty popular in England I think, but still pretty underground here in the West.
It's just one guy.

And Awfully Deep was my favourite album of 2005 at one point, but it's since been trampled by The Magic Numbers, Common, SOAD, Arcade Fire et al.

[Iai]

Music is noise and you can make noise either with a machine or with your heart.
Aw, you tried so hard to sound intelligent, too.....

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Dr. Octagon's *** references are the greatest moments of rap.

[VeedBok]

Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
De La Soul?
Blackalicious?
Jurassic 5?
Outkast?
Wu-Tang Clan?

my bad
Wu Tang Clan
Run DMC
and Public Enemy are good too

[EightMilesHigh]

This thread has been both a success and failure. Much kudos to threadstarter.

[Neurotoxin]

Jedi Mind Tricks are in first place in my books as far as hip hop goes. "And So It Burns", "The Worst", and "The Rage Of Angels" are my favourite beats.

[Kosta]

Rap is abousolutly horrible except like that one 911 is a joke song....sorry its just horrible...listen to jazz man it actually takes talent to play unlike rap :angry:


I can't stand jazz-elitists. "oh look at me, I like jazz, my tastes have far surpassed yours". Guess what? No one cares. I like jazz. Sun Ra and Ornette Coleman are some of my favorite artists. Big deal. Sorry you can't be openminded enough to accept anything you aren't used to.

[3rdplanet]

Jedi Mind Tricks are in first place in my books as far as hip hop goes. "And So It Burns", "The Worst", and "The Rage Of Angels" are my favourite beats.

absolute ch00n.

Need to get more stuff.

[sj_2150]

RAP IS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! worst music ever created, wait... ITS NOT MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SNOOP DOG, EMINEM, 50 CENT and all the rest SHOUKLD ****ING ROT IN HELL

[ATM]

RAP IS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! worst music ever created, wait... ITS NOT MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SNOOP DOG, EMINEM, 50 CENT and all the rest SHOUKLD ****ING ROT IN HELL
Enjoy the ban :)

[Illmatic]

RAP IS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! worst music ever created, wait... ITS NOT MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SNOOP DOG, EMINEM, 50 CENT and all the rest SHOUKLD ****ING ROT IN HELL

Die.

[Iai]

I can't stand jazz-elitists. "oh look at me, I like jazz, my tastes have far surpassed yours". Guess what? No one cares. I like jazz. Sun Ra and Ornette Coleman are some of my favorite artists. Big deal. Sorry you can't be openminded enough to accept anything you aren't used to.
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[RazorsInTheNight]

Can someone upload a few jungle brothers songs for me.

[94_Hours]

Mike Shinoda is a decent rapper, Meastro is also pretty good

[-Listy-]

I need help, 2pacs best albums in your oppinion?

Im a big fan, but ive never got a full album, just alot of songs i have downloaded, but i want to go and get some, thanks.

[breakinginflames]

if rap lyrics have some meaning instead of simply bragging about stuff i would listen to it, i think my all time favorite rap song is by 2 pac - changes, yeah its talking about being from the streets but it has a message behind it, not to mention good singing and rhythm

eminem however much i hate him, presents his songs without mindless rabble, and with a comedic twist as well, his songs are entertaining and have MEANING (or at least the songs ive heard)
not to sound racist but its funny how white rappers whose songs sound like the majority of other african american rappers (mtv crap) seem to fade rather quickly, while someone who stands out with their songs(eminem) stays and does better

mike shinoda and most(excluding j-z)of the people he associates with are good musicians who i would listen to, i for one liked linkin park's reanimation. i might even by his fort minor album, but LP's collabullation w/ jay-z was pathetic i used to love LP but after that i have lost a lot of faith because well j -z is one of the rappers who suck

but you cant argue with the fact that rap is fun to dance to
you cant get all up on a chick with meshuggah blasting (what will you do? headbang her?)

[|~Iceb0x~|]

I listen to N.W.A and Public enemy their good,and N.W.A is so good the R.A.T.M has made a cover on **** the police.

Has tupac made a cover on the song Changes, I don't really listen to him, but I heard that he made a song like that.

As for another thing, I see Kids who call them selves "Rockers" and start beating on kids that like Rap, but I don't understand is that if you want people who like a different genre of music,why do you beat on them rather share your music with them. I bet some kids of different sides of the fense would like each others music.

This problem seems to have gotten so far out of hand, that its like the "Culture Wars" out there, R.A.T.M is right " THE FRONT LINE IS EVERYWHERE"

I like haveing a wide view on music its good to have knowledge of different music and it promotes healthy lifestyle,

[Dancin' Man]

I can't stand jazz-elitists. "oh look at me, I like jazz, my tastes have far surpassed yours". Guess what? No one cares. I like jazz. Sun Ra and Ornette Coleman are some of my favorite artists. Big deal. Sorry you can't be openminded enough to accept anything you aren't used to.

You actually enjoy Sun Ra? I consider myself to be pretty open to music and listen to almost anything but I have trouble deciding whether Sun Ra is extremely advanced songwriting or just crap.

I HATE THESE THREADS! I wish Jon would finish his ****ing genre because it's been almost 3 weeks since I told him to post it ASAP

[RazorsInTheNight]

My bad for bringing this back a bit but could it be possible to move this to other music, just an idea.

[Illmatic]

My bad for bringing this back a bit but could it be possible to move this to other music, just an idea.

That ruins the purpose of this thread.

[RazorsInTheNight]

Yes I understand it's for educating the rock users about different genres and whatnot but since it's not a sticky now it's just going to fade away, I thought it could be still put to use.

[Bartender]

Why not just start a hip hop thread in Other with the same purpose? Do an FG in there, maybe. Or post in one of the many hip hop threads that already exist there.

[The Essential]

oh well....

[Bartender]

What?

[snoobab]

I need help, 2pacs best albums in your oppinion?

Im a big fan, but ive never got a full album, just alot of songs i have downloaded, but i want to go and get some, thanks.

Try get a copy of his Greatest Hits.. Got a little bit of everything on there. '91 - '98. Some really great tracks (if you're into rap of course).