The System of a Down Thread (MXican Radio #4)

[YearsOfOppression]

Yeh i guess so.

[Spiritofmosa]

i gotta pick up toxcity one day

[Benzum]

Needles is a great song.

[Spiritofmosa]

i am watching their vid at rock ring 2002.. daaron makes me laugh

[Blank]

Needles is an awesome songs.

But peephole pwns it :smash:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

No, Serj can get annoying on his own after a while. Daron isn't really very good on guitar anyway, so I don't think it would make much of a difference, at least it gives them a fuller band sound.
Thats because on Toxicity, he really only used the one voice, unlike on the s/t when he had many cool voices.

[Blank]

I much prefer Daron in the background doing metal screams :chug:

[Kyle]

I prefer Serj's metal screams on the self titled. But I love how their voices harmonise on some songs, On Lost in Hollywood it works amazingly.

[Blank]

Yeah that is pretty cool.
They sound great in soilder side to :chug:

[MrJack]

Daron just needs to stop. A perfect example of when and how he should sing is STA. You can hear him, but he doesn't(and shouldn't) overshadow Serj.

He cannot hold a song on his own. Sure, you want to do a ballad every CD, fine. But otherwise, STFU. This is exactly the reason why I can only tolerate 5/12 songs on Hypnotize. Ah well.

[Moses]

^^^Exactly how I feel.

[PepsiMetal]

Daron just needs to stop. A perfect example of when and how he should sing is STA. You can hear him, but he doesn't(and shouldn't) overshadow Serj.

He cannot hold a song on his own. Sure, you want to do a ballad every CD, fine. But otherwise, STFU. This is exactly the reason why I can only tolerate 5/12 songs on Hypnotize. Ah well.

Yea his voice is too similar to green day, simple plan, good charlotte, etc. Heck, the guy from good charlotte has better voice than daron. Daron has that "singing through the nose" voice. :(

[mbrinton138]

I dissagree, Daron is really talented. Besides which, he has been writing all the songs you people love and you seem to be hating him for wanted to display the acual emotion he put into them. Sure, we'd all like more Serj, but there isnt a song where Serj doesnt sing, too.

[PepsiMetal]

Nobody said he isn't talented. He writes some great lyrics and guitar riffs, but his vocals just aren't suited for soad. Especially when there is a guy like serj who didn't sing as much even though it would make songs sound alot better.

[mbrinton138]

your slowly hurting Darons feels, you know...

(Daron IS in system, he IS singing, he IS suited for them.)

[MrJack]

I do agree, he is talented. But just because you write the lyrics, doesn't mean they sound best when they are coming from you. "Back in the day", Daron was known as the guy with the wierd on stage antics, and the guy that did most of the talking inbetween songs that got everyone hyped.

Fast forward to before the Mezmorize release. People start asking him about the lyrics, and in seemingly every interview, he makes it clear that he has wrote most of SOAD material. Okay, people now know he writes and does all that other stuff I mention. Now whats the reason for forcing Serj to change his tone just to accomodate Daron, which overall sounds rather bad compared to the older songs when he was "background"? Streamline is a good song that demonstrates what im talking about.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You know there is a point where obsession messes people's reality up(mbrinton138). I think this guy has passed that point. I mean they have some amazing songs with Daron singing but he shouldn't sing on every song. I can see about a 1/4 or 1/3 but more that is too much.

[Blank]

Wooo.The song that made me want more Serj is lonely day.
Daron makes it sound so pop emo :amaze:

[mbrinton138]

Ahhh, if there is anysong that only Daron should sing, its Lonely Day. That one seems really personal. System of a Down is a band that likes to evolve...this form of evolution involves Daron on vocals...The next album will probubly be back to "normal".

And just cause Daron is my biggest inspiration doesnt mean I am obsessed. Hes showing that the guitar player can be more involved in the band than just sticking to the guitar. Yay Daron.

[Blank]

But Serj is the singer.
There have been countless bands were the drummer/bassist/guitarist wrote songs and didn't sing them.If I recall soads lineup is
Serj Tankian-Vocals
Daron Malakian-Guitar
Shavo Odadjian-Bass
John Dolmayan-Drums
And it should stay that way :smash:

[DWJK]

Its a subjective call. No ones ever going to be right

Everyone who likes Darons voice is going to say he's suited for SOAD

Everyone who hates his whinyness is going to say he should just play guitar because that's his role

This dicussion is endless

[Anthem]

Agreed.

[mbrinton138]

But Serj is the singer.
There have been countless bands were the drummer/bassist/guitarist wrote songs and didn't sing them.If I recall soads lineup is
Serj Tankian-Vocals
Daron Malakian-Guitar
Shavo Odadjian-Bass
John Dolmayan-Drums
And it should stay that way :smash:

acually its:
Daron Malakian - Guitars/Vocals
Serj Tankian - Vocals/Keyboards
Shavo Odadjian - Bass
John Dolmayan - Drums

see see, Daron is first...I shat you not, look in the jacket!

But personally, the only signer who truely fits with SOAD is P.Diddy,

[Blank]

>_<
Guitarist get enough credit.
I prefer Shavos ball squeezing high pitched voice :lol:

[Slipknotz_M]

does anybody miss old classic System like Spiders?

[Blank]

Yes.

[mbrinton138]

No. If I wanted to hear Spiders I can, it didnt go anywhere...its down the hall in my room.

[MrJack]

It's rather hard to miss Spiders when I play it everyday. :cool:

Now that we are all over the Daron thing(he's good, he writes, he sings, he needs to grow that beard back!), lets look towards the future. They should be heading out to tour agian. What are some MUST hear songs you guys....well....must hear :confused: Me? Well......

Spiders
Forest(my favorite song)
Streamline(my second favorite song)
Thetawaves(I wish)
Chic'N'Stu(I wish...but they will probrably never play this agian :angry: )
Radio/Video(I wish agian)
cuBERT(Im still wishing)
Highway Song(^^^^)
Dreaming
Solider Side Outro
Tentative

Basically, I would like to hear what they never/hardly play because its all so good. And some new stuff of course.

[MetallifuX]

serj plays the guitar in some live songs........

[Blank]

Live songs I want to hear....
Tentative (beautiful)
Peephole
Sugar
Spiders
Attack
Revenga
Toxicity
.....All of there songs :p

[PepsiMetal]

serj plays the guitar in some live songs........

Yea I've seen him play small parts in aerials. He plays lots of keyboard though.

[Blank]

Any song with keys is done by Serj.
Notice how Daron starts singing and suddenly soad has tons more songs with synth? :smash:

[PepsiMetal]

Daron uses that electronic thing (not sure what it's called) and makes his voice sound robotic. I saw it in a video they did at download festival 05. It sounded pretty cool, but serj's vocals are unbeatable by daron.

[Tele_Dude]

Now that Daron is writing more lyrics, and is singing more, Serj is writeng more music. Serj wrote Question! and Vicinity of Obcenity, which are in my opinion two of the best songs on Mezmerize/Hypnotize. You all complain about Darons singing, but I totally understand him. He does this for the band, and for himself. If his voice sounds like **** in a song, he'll shut up. If his voice makes the song better, he'll sing.

I understand him when he says that it's hard to let someone else sing something that you have created, your own ****ing feelings. Serj wrote lyrics/sang on S/T, Serj/a little bit of Daron wrote lyrics/sang on Toxicity, Daron/a little bit of Serj wrote lyrics/sang on Mez/Hyp.


Maybe Shavo will write lyrics and sing on the next record, and maybe John will play flute. You never know with these guys, thats why I love 'em.

[Rise Against1337]

System of a Down is my second favorite band (next to Avenged Sevenfold). Every Album they whip out surprises that no1 can comprehend. People call some of their songs "fillers", but i personally think each song has their own meaning. SOAD ROCKS! People are mad that they went "Mainstream". who cares?! they have their very own sound unlike those gay emo bands like Panic! and Fall Out Boy. My one problem with this band is that the bass parts should be better, i can only hear it in a few songs, and its pretty much a few notes.

If i could possibly name my top 10 fav songs they would prolly be (not in any order):
Needles
Holy Mountains-the BEST song known to man
Tentative
CUBErt
Sugar
Prison Song
Atwa
This Cocaine Makes me feel like im on this song
Viscinity of Obscinity
Soldier Slide

[Moses]

System of a Down is my second favorite band (next to Avenged Sevenfold). Every Album they whip out surprises that no1 can comprehend. People call some of their songs "fillers", but i personally think each song has their own meaning. SOAD ROCKS! People are mad that they went "Mainstream". who cares?! they have their very own sound unlike those gay emo bands like Panic! and Fall Out Boy. My one problem with this band is that the bass parts should be better, i can only hear it in a few songs, and its pretty much a few notes.

Do you know anything about emo? Fall Out Boy and Panic! are not emo. Saetia and Heroin are emo.

[Blank]

System of a Down is my second favorite band (next to Avenged Sevenfold). Every Album they whip out surprises that no1 can comprehend. People call some of their songs "fillers", but i personally think each song has their own meaning. SOAD ROCKS! People are mad that they went "Mainstream". who cares?! they have their very own sound unlike those gay emo bands like Panic! and Fall Out Boy. My one problem with this band is that the bass parts should be better, i can only hear it in a few songs, and its pretty much a few notes.

If i could possibly name my top 10 fav songs they would prolly be (not in any order):
Needles
Holy Mountains-the BEST song known to man
Tentative
CUBErt
Sugar
Prison Song
Atwa
This Cocaine Makes me feel like im on this song
Viscinity of Obscinity
Soldier Slide
This post really annoyed me.

[Rise Against1337]

Do you know anything about emo? Fall Out Boy and Panic! are not emo. Saetia and Heroin are emo.

i didnt mean to put emo, sorry *totally embaressed*


and why did that post bother you Ryan? was it cuz im right?:angry:

[Blank]

Yep that's exactly it.

[Rise Against1337]

ah alright then. at least ur not cussing me out, thanks

[mbrinton138]

Hey everyone. Im Mitch

now that thats out of the way, I WANT TO HEAR SYSTEM PLAY SUGAR NOW! like...while Daron is in his fancy leather fad. And Suite-Pee...and Suggestions...and every song...like Bounce...ok, just all of every album ever.

Im gunna go watch either Office Space or Fight Club.

[PepsiMetal]

bounce pogo bounce pogo pogo pogo

lol, that song is funny as hell. Especially when they do it live.

[Iron Pantallica]

hey i really like system and i hav toxcicity and mezmerize, could any1 tell me if they hav a live cd

[Rise Against1337]

to my knowledge, they do not have a specific "live" cd, but you can buy the s/t album special edition (its red) and u can get some live songs. Also, if you reserved a copy of hypnotize when it came out, ur copy came with one or two live songs.

banana banana banana terracotta banana terracotta terracotta pie!

[Skit]

^
Reserved copies of Hypnotize came with a Lithograph but NO live songs.

There isnt an official live CD but you can find lots of live bootlegs about, Check out lowlands, thats one of the most widely avaliable shows and its a pretty sweet show aswell :thumb:

[mbrinton138]

the best Ive seen is either BDO 02' or Rock Am Ring. They were so cool, Daron stage dives on the first song at Rock Am Ring.

[DaveTheAmazing 2.0]

Any news on the next single?

[Blank]

Isn't it like,since it's a double album they can have the next single be from mez or hyp?

I always thought revenga would be a single...

[xrockerachickx]

Did Anybody See The Interview They Did With Fuse? On The Show Uranium?

[Blank]

Yes.

[xrockerachickx]

so ur opinion: did they act totally awesome, or was Daron a kind of an azz whole?

[Blank]

Bleh.
I thought it was hilarious.I just wish Shavo talked more.That ****ing stoner.

[xrockerachickx]

lol yeah huh?
i was crackin up at it, and Julya was pissed man!
Daron laughs a lot, and funny too.
then Serj was just like going with the flow haha

[Blank]

Daron AND Serj are hilarious.
John is smart and Shavo is quiet.

It was all funny but I liked the 2002 interview better.Serj had his awesome hair and beard back then.

[mbrinton138]

The next solo is being said to be 'Lost in Hollywood"

[Dave de Sylvia]

The next single?

My brother bought Mezmerize over Christmas, which will go perfectly with my copy of Hypnotize that he keeps taking. I think I like Hypnotize more, though; more consistent.

[Rise Against1337]

Daron AND Serj are hilarious.
John is smart and Shavo is quiet.

It was all funny but I liked the 2002 interview better.Serj had his awesome hair and beard back then.


^^ i agree completely. I subscribe to modern drummer magazine, and they did this interview with John, and he was completely serious the whole time. Definately not the SOAD styel. But he's a good guy. I just wish they interviewed the whole band in that article, that wouldve been good

[Blank]

I think I read that.They had him test out a kit right?

Yeah he says his biggest musical influence is his dad,a saxaphone player.
I take it he's pretty serious about everything,ala never smiling while drumming.(Says it'll throw him offbeat)

[Rise Against1337]

yeah, that was the same article. I personally think that its good that SOAD has one serious guy in the band. It gives a little balance, i suppose

[PepsiMetal]

Yea John kicks ***. I love his drumming style too though.

[Blank]

The great thing about John is that he drums for the song.
He never does anything that he doesn't have to.

[MrJack]

Him and Shavo were laughing and talking while he was playing at the last show I went to. Guess he was simply having a good day.

[azbassman]

I was watching System of A Down live on mtv (i know). and when john was playing his whole body moved except his head. he just started straight ahead while playing toxicity.

[classicrockman]

I was watching System of A Down live on mtv (i know). and when john was playing his whole body moved except his head. he just started straight ahead while playing toxicity.
Where in Tucson do you live azbassman? I also live in Tucson.

[Blank]

Hahahahaha yeah exactly.
Watching John is like watching a robot.
But he's awesome.

And im pretty sure John was talking to Shavo when he wasn't playing.
Because that'd be kind of hard. :smash:

[MrJack]

He does. I don't have any video of the show I went to, but he also talks and smiles on the Almost Acoustic Christmas video.

[PepsiMetal]

I was watching System of A Down live on mtv (i know). and when john was playing his whole body moved except his head. he just started straight ahead while playing toxicity.

He's hypnotized. :p

He seems alot more serious than the others that's for sure.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

THere's nothing wrong with being serious during a show. Look at Neil Peart. He is amazing and he rarely smiles when he's playing.

[mbrinton138]

maybe john plays better when hes mad?

[xrockerachickx]

He's Not Mad....
He's Just Not All "humorous" Like Daron Likes To Put It.
But Thats A Good Thing, Cuz Thats What Makes Him Different And Unique

[Death Denied]

I have a 52 minute live show on my computer where Daron makes John smile while playing Sugar. John has a nice smile. I think he needs to smile more often so people who don't really know System don't think he's a grump.

P.S. I like fruit.

[PepsiMetal]

Like he really cares what people think about him. :p

He's a drummer...

lol :)

[xrockerachickx]

^ lol... YEAH THATS TRUE.
BUT ITS KOOL. CUZ THAT MAKES HIM, HIM

[Blank]

Im a drummer :angry:
Bleh this topic is kind of retarted.Who cares what John looks like.
Anyway,what do you guys expect from Systems next cd?

I expect a nice blend of this new style they're going for and a little classic soad like how they did attack.

[MPA = Communism]

Im a drummer :angry:
Bleh this topic is kind of retarted.Who cares what John looks like.
Anyway,what do you guys expect from Systems next cd?

I expect a nice blend of this new style they're going for and a little classic soad like how they did attack.

I still like the old style of songs from Toxicity and the leftover songs on the Steal This Album cd better than the new ones. I hope they try something new.

[Blank]

Same.
I hope whatever they do involves some screams and growls.

[PepsiMetal]

Im a drummer :angry:

I was joking. Drummers kick ***.

Next album will be probably something different than before. Maybe daron will add more electronic stuff in there as he uses it alot in concerts now.

I love how in Kill Rock n Roll when daron says something, serj follows with a same line but growled. Sounds awesome.

[A_Guy]

Im really hoping the go back into the harder stuff, like the self-titled. I like the new stuff too, so a fusion of both would be cool

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I'd like something new like the electronic stuff that Daron adds during the concerts, mixed with the raw energy from the first album, with Serj doing about 80-90% of the vocals. Doubt its gonna happen that way but its what I'd like.

[Stringbreaker]

I got Hypnotize the other day, and I must say I was very impressed. I have heard alot of negativity towards it but I think it is a great album. Of course what System fan doesn't miss Serj's growls from the earlier days, although they still occur they are definitely not as prevalent. I also liked one thing they added to the mix guitar solos, I always underestimated Daron but that ****er can rip. I think the future works will see them return more to their original style, I just think that at the moment they have completely gained an understanding of great songwriting and they are exploiting it as much as possible. But soon I think they will be able to incorporate it into the style that has appeared in the past and what has made them unique, and then they will truly be an amazing band. Not that they already aren't of course. I believe that they started out completely unique and as far away from mainstream as they possibly could, but as they progressed and more and more people fell in love with them it became just another band. So they are just looking for ways to reinvent themselves or at least that is what I think.

[Blank]

Daron can rip eh?Like that one chord solo at the end of attack :rolleyes:

Yeah mambuto that sounds awesome.
Electronic stuff would soiund great added with some disorted guitar,double bass and thick bass lines,topped with Serj singing.
Ah man I just creamed myself :p

[ValeOfShadows]

Yeh it'd be awesome if the new album had more growling and screaming.

[xrockerachickx]

^ yup. that would be the best album ever! but i dont think they'll do it. i mean, they changed their style 4 a reason already. so doing it, would b a step backwards. BUT I WOULD LOVE A NEW ALBUM LIKE "TOXICITY"

[PepsiMetal]

Daron can rip eh?Like that one chord solo at the end of attack :rolleyes:

Psycho solo is by far daron's best one imo.

Lonely day solo is his best wankage I've heard yet though.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You whats strange. My friend and I (he doesn't really like heavier music) were making a short movie in one of our classes. He brought a bunch of songs, mainly from DDR, to put on the movie as backround music. So I was listening to it and he had put Vicinity Of Obscenity on there. He said that really liked that song.

I just find that ironic. Mainly because I find that a song that if you don't like SOAD, you probaly won't like it.

[mbrinton138]

www.systemofadownonline.com says that Daron is adding in electronica for the next ablum

[podbassist]

^ yup. that would be the best album ever! but i dont think they'll do it. i mean, they changed their style 4 a reason already. so doing it, would b a step backwards. BUT I WOULD LOVE A NEW ALBUM LIKE "TOXICITY"
Yes toxicity was definitely their best, and if another one came out like that maybe it would start a revolution of kicking all these pant saggin wanna be wangstas off of tv and rock would be back in the mainlight. But it would take more than soad to do that but it would be a start.

[Blank]

Nice find mbrinton138! :thumb:
Yeah psycho,has a cool solo,but Darons not really what I think of when I think,amazing guitarist.
I just like SOAD for there unique sound,not there musical ability.

:thumb:

[Spiritofmosa]

www.systemofadownonline.com says that Daron is adding in electronica for the next ablum
oh no. that means more old school hollywood

[Death Denied]

Maybe another song or two with the same basic idea as Prison Song but still significantly different would be very refreshing I think. Perhaps a song with characteristics from Prison Song (like 'screaming' and heavy guitar), Viscinity of Obscenity (interesting lyrics o_O), and Lonely Day (perhaps the solo since it's so riptastic =P) would make an interesting song. Dunno, just...Dreaming...get it? Dreaming? Hypnotize? AHAHAHAHAAAA...ha...ha...wow...tough crowd. Sorry...

[Blank]

Well that was lame :smash:
:p

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I don't like his solo project idea. I mean it'll probably end up sounding like SOAD v2. I think instead of doing solo project use some of that material for a new SOAD album. Anybody else with some thoughts on that?

[A_Guy]

Maybe another song or two with the same basic idea as Prison Song but still significantly different would be very refreshing I think. Perhaps a song with characteristics from Prison Song (like 'screaming' and heavy guitar), Viscinity of Obscenity (interesting lyrics o_O), and Lonely Day (perhaps the solo since it's so riptastic =P) would make an interesting song. Dunno, just...Dreaming...get it? Dreaming? Hypnotize? AHAHAHAHAAAA...ha...ha...wow...tough crowd. Sorry...
I hate Lonely Day. It's the only song on Hypnotize that i skip

[PepsiMetal]

I think it's better than hypnotize.

[A_Guy]

^ya, i guess its just opinion.

[Blank]

I think Shavo,John and Serj should start a side project with Buckethead o_O

:lol: Lonely day is a little emo for my taste.
"The most lonliest day of my lifeeee"

[Sph]

I don't mind Lonely Day but it's far from my favorite.

NP: This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song

[mutant!]

Anyone notice how no-one has criticised John's playing? At all? People go on and on about Daron's guitaring and Daron's singing and Serj's growling and Shavo's style and whatnot, but John is... perfect. Anyway, anyone who says that something System did (letting Daron sing, for example) doesn't fit them is talking out his a*s because System Of A Down are defined by what they do, not by what other people think they should. Everything they do automatically fits them because they did it. Anyone get what I'm saying?

Just because I haven't mentioned this before, Question! is my favourite System song. Ever.

[wouter]

^ John's playing is pretty kewl

He's a really good drummer imo.

[A_Guy]

^Well, thats because John plays good, original drum beats.

[Death Denied]

Well that was lame :smash:
:p
I know it was...but I still had to say it anyways...'cause I thought it was pretty...well...so lame it was funny. >_<

I hate Lonely Day. It's the only song on Hypnotize that i skip
It's not one of my favs but it's really easy to play on guitar (which is a bonus for me 'cause I'm not too terribly good) and it's easier for me to sing along to (Serj's voice can get a little too low for me).

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I like to sing along to it as well but the high notes on the last chorus for me are pretty hard to get. Actually, I can sing both of their parts in almost every song. :cool:

[mbrinton138]

Lonely Day is one of my favorite songs on the album acually. Though I am not much of a singer, whenever I play through any System song on guitar I always sing along to whenever Daron songs to atleast make me a better backing vocalist.

[mutant!]

Lonely Day is one of my favorite songs on the album acually. Though I am not much of a singer, whenever I play through any System song on guitar I always sing along to whenever Daron songs to atleast make me a better backing vocalist.
I do the same, not just with SOAD though. Nowadays I have to practice lead singing more, though, since my band just recruited a second guitarist who kicks my a*s so I'll be singing more than I'll be playing. :/ Oh well. I have always fancied being like Serj Tankian. Or Matt Bellamy, or Brandon Boyd. Or JK.

[Blank]

:lol:

My favorite songs to sing are tentative,attack,kill rock n roll and vicinity of obscentity.
My favorite songs to play off of hyp are as follows:
Drums-Attack,U-fig,hypnotize and dreaming.
Bass-kill r'n'r,she's like heroine,hypnotize,attack and vicinity of obscenity.

:thumb:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I love singing to all of their songs. I really like most of their songs on the guitar. Some kinda suck for me though.

[A_Guy]

http://soadfans.com/Article338.htm
Lonely Day is being released as a single....
Why that one

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

That sucks. The last time they a lot of thime off, their next album was pretty mediocre. I just hope they don't try and release a CD similar to STA for H/M. That would be brutal.

They should've released Soldier Side as a single. That song blows all other off of H/M completely out of the water.

[Blank]

Oh god.
I hope emo kids don't see hear lonely day and assume soad is an emo band.
I don't want to have to deal with that.

And after lonely day apparently they're going with Lost in hollywood as the next single.
If you don't believe me read there def on wikipedia.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

They siad that was going to be the next single after Hypnotize. That didn't happen though.

EDIT - Sweet post 2112 of this thread. :thumb:

[Death Denied]

Oh god.
I hope emo kids don't see hear lonely day and assume soad is an emo band.
I don't want to have to deal with that.
*Nods*
What a fun adventure that would be.

On an A.D.D. note, I have finally seen the video for Spiders (yeah, I know...a little late. You all shush. =P) and I must say...freaky. Interesting...but freaky.

[A_Guy]

Oh god.
I hope emo kids don't see hear lonely day and assume soad is an emo band.
I don't want to have to deal with that.
My thoughts exactly.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

System of A down is like one of those bands I listened to when I was 11, circa 1998. When I look back at it I'm like, "why did I listen to this stuff?" Up to Toxicity was decent, and then they made that Steal this Album garbage entirely off tracks they made 4 years ago that got excluded from the first and second albums. It had two good songs, but it's one of the worst 15 albums I've ever purchased.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

*Nods*
What a fun adventure that would be.

On an A.D.D. note, I have finally seen the video for Spiders (yeah, I know...a little late. You all shush. =P) and I must say...freaky. Interesting...but freaky.
That video is one of my favorites. Its pretty awesome.

[Porcupine_F*cker]

SOAD are definitly my fav band,imo each musician is original and unique,also shavo is an unreal bassist and serj is the best vocalist ever..
F**K THE SYSTEM

Shavo is pretty good with the fills. I'm not sure if he writes them, but they are pretty nice. Serjj on the other hand...... lets just leave it a that.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You know if you don't like the band, please leave, n00b!

[Blank]

Shavo is a good bassist.He does what's needed.
Nothing amazing,but a solid bassist.And I love Serj's vocals :amaze:

[MrJack]

System of A down is like one of those bands I listened to when I was 11, circa 1998. When I look back at it I'm like, "why did I listen to this stuff?" Up to Toxicity was decent, and then they made that Steal this Album garbage entirely off tracks they made 4 years ago that got excluded from the first and second albums. It had two good songs, but it's one of the worst 15 albums I've ever purchased.


....yeah, I won't comment on this.

And Lonely day or Lost in Hollywood as singles is complete bull. Of all the songs to single.....$%^&^&@#$@!!!!!

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

It's gonna sell them records, so expect some more of those damn 10 year olds call them selves SOAD fans.

[Blank]

I always thought revenga would be a single to be honest.

[PepsiMetal]

they made that Steal this Album garbage entirely off tracks they made 4 years ago that got excluded from the first and second albums.

I bet if they never mentioned they wrote the songs before, the album would be liked and respected much more. I love Steal this album and couldn't care less if they thought it wasn't good enough for toxicity. Afterall, what they like wont mean we all will.

[Adm1R]

It's gonna sell them records, so expect some more of those damn 10 year olds call them selves SOAD fans.
No no no, thats the Nirvana stage.:smash:

[Kyle]

Lost in Hollywood is amazing, I hope they release it. Lonely Day is pretty sucky though.

You all heard about Daron's solo project, it's on Sputnik news section.

[Keiko]

firstly let me introduce myself :) i am Keiko and i like rock music! (rotfl duh)

anyways on topic, S.O.A.D are a cool band, my fave song has to be B.Y.O.B man such a gd song!! they are even good live! so that makes them an even better band :p

[MrJack]

I must be the only one that thinks STA is better than Tox. It not that one is better, but you simply can't fit 24 songs on one record release.

[A_Guy]

^ I like the self titled better than any of them

[Blank]

B.Y.O.B was suprisingly good for a single.

Meh,it's there choice.Who cares,I bet lost in hollywood will have a cool video.

Lonely day on the other hand...I assume the video will involve makeup and crying :(

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I hate B.Y.O.B.
The video rips off RATM (with the helmet thing)
The lyrics rip off "War Pigs"
And the chorus is brutal.

That is the only SOAD song I cannot stand at all.

[PepsiMetal]

I wouldn't say lyrics are a rip off of war pigs, they just have similar message behind them. I like the chorus for byob, but there are definetely alot better songs on mezmerize. Most are better actually.

[Death Denied]

I don't think I really have a favorite or least favorite...well, except that Zelda song...it was funny at first...but it's gotten annoying now. Oh, and Roulette too. And just for the record, I really love Steal This Album.

[xxGumbyxx]

I don't think I really have a favorite or least favorite...well, except that Zelda song...it was funny at first...but it's gotten annoying now. Oh, and Roulette too. And just for the record, I really love Steal This Album.

The Rabbit Joint

[Kyle]

BYOB is my favorite soad chorus....so there :p

[Adm1R]

Hi, does any of you know the settings for Darons sound, i have the MetalZone-2??

[Spiritofmosa]

Hi, does any of you know the settings for Darons sound, i have the MetalZone-2??
turn down the high mids to about 10oclock+.. up the high and bass to at least 12oclock . Low mids = bass

thats should be about it

[Skit]

Metalzone :lol:

[Blank]

hi i have a 1st act bass wut r shavos tones?!?!?!11!?!?!1one?

:lol: Ah...I already want a new soad cd :-\

[Death Denied]

The Rabbit Joint
I uh...I knew that... >_>

[Blank]

I uh...I knew that... >_>
LIES!

[Death Denied]

Ashushy you!
*Tapes Blank's mouth shut*

I mean...how could you accuse me of lying? I'm shocked. :eek:
>_>
<_<

[Grinch]

New album=random i mean come on
"banana banana banana banana tericota pie" and " she's like herowin sipping from a little glass i need to get some help i need someone to save my ***" what is going on what has that got to do with anti polotics war ect.

[mutant!]

New album=random i mean come on
"banana banana banana banana tericota pie" and " she's like herowin sipping from a little glass i need to get some help i need someone to save my ***" what is going on what has that got to do with anti polotics war ect.
Just because you are unable to interpret the song doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything. Check out some fansites.

[xrockerachickx]

Just because you are unable to interpret the song doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything. Check out some fansites.
so give us ur interpretation...

[poprocks&coke]

Hey, does anyone know if System are planning a UK tour? And if so, does anyone know which dates?

Cheers.

[mutant!]

so give us ur interpretation...
Still haven't heard Hypnotize... :upset:

[Moses]

New album=random i mean come on
"banana banana banana banana tericota pie" and " she's like herowin sipping from a little glass i need to get some help i need someone to save my ***" what is going on what has that got to do with anti polotics war ect.
That isn't the first time they've made "random" songs.

[A_Guy]

New album=random i mean come on
"banana banana banana banana tericota pie" and " she's like herowin sipping from a little glass i need to get some help i need someone to save my ***" what is going on what has that got to do with anti polotics war ect.
Seriously, who gives a ****

[PepsiMetal]

That isn't the first time they've made "random" songs.

Bounce pogo pogo pogo bounce pogo bounce comes to mind.

[MrJack]

New album=random i mean come on
"banana banana banana banana tericota pie" and " she's like herowin sipping from a little glass i need to get some help i need someone to save my ***" what is going on what has that got to do with anti polotics war ect.

Who declared the band was a "anti politics war" band?

[Death Denied]

You can't really label System because I feel that they're a bit of everything. To give a band a label is like limiting them to what the "definition" of that label is. Though that is how the music industry sells music. They slap a label on it and sell it to the consuming public (mostly anyways).

[A_Guy]

You can't really label System because I feel that they're a bit of everything. To give a band a label is like limiting them to what the "definition" of that label is. Though that is how the music industry sells music. They slap a label on it and sell it to the consuming public (mostly anyways).
"**** the System" :p

[Adm1R]

Does any one know the name of the song Daron plays and sings after the prison song at the Reading festival 2002 or 2003? He sings some thing about, way back home, 1000 nights before and so on.

[Death Denied]

"**** the System" :p
Bwahahaha!!! Exactly.


Does any one know the name of the song Daron plays and sings after the prison song at the Reading festival 2002 or 2003? He sings some thing about, way back home, 1000 nights before and so on.
Do you mean the festival in Lowlands, Holland in 2001? If not, then they did it then too. As far as I know (which isn't much) that's probably just him improvising as alot of musicians tend to do during live shows. Or that was written as an after thought for Prison Song one day and they decided to stick it on. Dunno, but I don't think it's actually a seperate song. Whatever it is though, I rather like it.

And that's my blurb for the evening. Farewell my beloved threaders. :wave:

[Skit]

Does any one know the name of the song Daron plays and sings after the prison song at the Reading festival 2002 or 2003? He sings some thing about, way back home, 1000 nights before and so on.

Scopions - When the smoke is going down :thumb:

[Adm1R]

Scopions - When the smoke is going down :thumb:
yeah thx :)

[DEER17]

You know i do believe that even their extremely random songs do have a meaning (or a theme at least) behind them. Viscinity of Obscenity and Bounce are both definately about sex, Chic n' stu is about advertising, This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On this Song is about drug addiction i guess, (although i'm far from sure on that one). It kind of seems like they put songs with odd lyrics on the album on purpose with the intent of leaving them open to interperetation.

[Death Denied]

Scopions - When the smoke is going down :thumb:
Ya learn something new everyday.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You know i do believe that even their extremely random songs do have a meaning (or a theme at least) behind them. Viscinity of Obscenity and Bounce are both definately about sex, Chic n' stu is about advertising, This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On this Song is about drug addiction i guess, (although i'm far from sure on that one). It kind of seems like they put songs with odd lyrics on the album on purpose with the intent of leaving them open to interperetation.
That's old news. Daron said it was about advertising in a magizine article around the release of STA.

[MrJack]

That's old news. Daron said it was about advertising in a magizine article around the release of STA.

And you'd never know that by listning to the song :rolleyes:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I'm just saying that was confirmed in an article.

[Ninja Bass Man]

This is a real change of subject here, but ive searched thru most of this forum (at least, as much as i could) and i found that most everyone is talking about thier soph. album and up (from what ive seen, couldve missed some stuff). So what about the album System of a Down? My other (very possibly stupid) question about that is are they anti religion, anti christian, or is that "left up to interpretation" as well?
p.s.- please nobody get mad at me for asking

[mutant!]

The album System Of A Down is referred to as Self-Titled or S/T, as the album is named after the band. Thus Franz Ferdinand is also Self-Titled. You see? So we've been talking about it all the time.

SOAD are Christian (I am unsure which subgroup), which stems from their heritage as Armenians, the oldest Christian nation on earth. How tightly they cling to those beliefs is uncertain, though.

[TojesDolan]

Chop Suey seems like a pretty religiously-driven themed song.


At least.. you know. That about about forsakenness.

[Ninja Bass Man]

The reason I ask is mainly because of the lyrics of Suite-pea.
I dont have them handy, but some thing about jesus being a "her", and dying for "her"philosofy, and the falling of a christ, or maybe I'm just thinking to hard? Honestly, i didn't know anything about armenians, though i have heard SOAD referred to as such. Something else i have a little trouble with is this- what kind of metal are they?
There have been many a discussion about this, I say they are heavy. Any other ideas?

[Britton]

I'm just dropping in to say hello....and I'm in love with Mezmerize I think it's a brilliant album

[mutant!]

The reason I ask is mainly because of the lyrics of Suite-pea.
I dont have them handy, but some thing about jesus being a "her", and dying for "her"philosofy, and the falling of a christ, or maybe I'm just thinking to hard? Honestly, i didn't know anything about armenians, though i have heard SOAD referred to as such. Something else i have a little trouble with is this- what kind of metal are they?
There have been many a discussion about this, I say they are heavy. Any other ideas?
It's mostly accepted that they are unique in the metal genre. However, the closest I think is nu-metal, minus all the bad stereotypes associated with the label.

Then again, you get songs like Roulette and Aerials and that just throws genre classifications out the window.

[A_Guy]

The reason I ask is mainly because of the lyrics of Suite-pea.
I dont have them handy, but some thing about jesus being a "her", and dying for "her"philosofy, and the falling of a christ, or maybe I'm just thinking to hard?
About the she thing, I like how its kind of anti-cultural, refering to God or a god as female. Smashing Pumpkins do it in "If There is a God".

[Death Denied]

Everytime I see or hear the word Armenian (or Armenia or anything related) it always makes me think of the Armenian Genocide...so depressing.
Yes...yes I find Genocides interesting...yes...yes I'm odd.

On another note...I don't like labels. The only good kind of labels are allergy labels and labels that tell you what's a poisonous substance that you shouldn't ingest and what's fine to snarf down in astounding time intervals.

And on a note completely off topic...I lost my grad ring.:upset:

[YearsOfOppression]

The reason I ask is mainly because of the lyrics of Suite-pea.
I dont have them handy, but some thing about jesus being a "her", and dying for "her"philosofy, and the falling of a christ, or maybe I'm just thinking to hard? Honestly, i didn't know anything about armenians, though i have heard SOAD referred to as such. Something else i have a little trouble with is this- what kind of metal are they?
There have been many a discussion about this, I say they are heavy. Any other ideas?

They are nu-metal

[A_Guy]

They are nu-metal
Read the thread, and **** the System

[mutant!]

Yay, I turned 18 today and my gf got me STA. It really is an awesome album. I'm digging Ego Brain, Roulette, I-E-A-I-A-I-O and Thetawaves. And Highway Song. Fcuk what everyone says about these songs not being "good" enough for Toxicity/whatever. They're brilliant tunes in their own right.

[The Flash]

STA is a very good album. And it's not that the songs weren't good enough for Toxicity, their were just too many songs. And some songs on STA were written even before Toxicity. Roulette for example was written 8 years before STA was released.

[Romanticide]

Chop Suey seems like a pretty religiously-driven themed song.


At least.. you know. That about about forsakenness.

and Bounce! is the complete opposite.

[The Flash]

I wouldn't waste your time trying to classify system. Every album of theirs is distinctively different.

[MrJack]

STA is a very good album. And it's not that the songs weren't good enough for Toxicity, their were just too many songs. And some songs on STA were written even before Toxicity. Roulette for example was written 8 years before STA was released.

Don't even bother. You spend so much time telling people that you don't release a song with 30+ songs on it, and they will still simply think they "weren't good enough" anyway(if that the case, any song on STA would have been better suited on Tox then "Shimmy").

[PepsiMetal]

Mr. Jack or I-E-A-I-A-I-O are best songs on STA imo. Either would fit toxicity, but like they said above, there were just too many songs to fit onto one album. It's kinda same as mez/hyp, except they released it a couple years apart instead of 6 months.

[azbassman]

Mr. Jack or I-E-A-I-A-I-O are best songs on STA imo. Either would fit toxicity, but like they said above, there were just too many songs to fit onto one album. It's kinda same as mez/hyp, except they released it a couple years apart instead of 6 months.
Those are pretty good....but Streamline has to be my favorite off of STA.

[The Flash]

Shimmy is a cool song. I'd say Jet Pilot is the worst song on Toxicity.

[mutant!]

^ Jet Pilot ftw

[669 the neighbor of the beast]

I got three of their albums, but they are azzholes did anyone see them on uranium on the fuse channel?

[Skit]

I got three of their albums, but they are azzholes did anyone see them on uranium on the fuse channel?

That was great :amaze:

[mutant!]

^ Enlighten me...

[penelope weird hands]

SOAD have not surpassed their self-titled release, IMO.
Toxicity came close but it lacked some elements that S/T had.

And these two new releases are pathetic, if not shjt, compared to previous releases.
Daron Malakian seriously needs to fvck off away from the vocals.
Whiny horseshjt with terrible lyrics.

Serj = pwnage.
Malakian = ...huh? Go away. Play guitar.

If you're going to release two albums simultaneously (or close to) make them as decent as other releases.. ffs.
Opeth did it. (D&D)

Still.. good band.
Just let Serge do his shjt and write the lyrics and all shall be well.

I hope they do better next time around, release-wise.

[mutant!]

^ Get a life, fast. How good an album is is a very subjective point. I happen to like Daron's voice in System's context. (I thank God I don't sing like him, though.) I happen to believe Question! is a brilliant song. Not just by SOAD's standards either.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Does anybody have those Fuse and Uranium things? I'd really like to see them. Please.
/ down on his knees beging.

[A_Guy]

Does anybody have those Fuse and Uranium things? I'd really like to see them. Please.
/ down on his knees beging.
I second that

[Spiritofmosa]

Daron Malakian seriously needs to fvck off away from the vocals.
Whiny horseshjt with terrible lyrics.

.

lol

[Adm1R]

This is a real change of subject here, but ive searched thru most of this forum (at least, as much as i could) and i found that most everyone is talking about thier soph. album and up (from what ive seen, couldve missed some stuff). So what about the album System of a Down? My other (very possibly stupid) question about that is are they anti religion, anti christian, or is that "left up to interpretation" as well?
p.s.- please nobody get mad at me for asking
I think they are atheists, because if you read who Daron says thanks to in Toxicity he thanks Allah, buddah, god and lucifer. So i dont really think they belive in any thing.

[The Flash]

SOAD have not surpassed their self-titled release, IMO.
Toxicity came close but it lacked some elements that S/T had.

And these two new releases are pathetic, if not shjt, compared to previous releases.
Daron Malakian seriously needs to fvck off away from the vocals.
Whiny horseshjt with terrible lyrics.

Serj = pwnage.
Malakian = ...huh? Go away. Play guitar.

If you're going to release two albums simultaneously (or close to) make them as decent as other releases.. ffs.
Opeth did it. (D&D)

Still.. good band.
Just let Serge do his shjt and write the lyrics and all shall be well.

I hope they do better next time around, release-wise.
Mez/Hyp are both great albums. Don't compare them to previous system albums because they're not meant to be or sound the same. And you say the lyrics suck now because Daron writes them? Daron has always written a lot of the lyrics and music for System, now he just sings more.. and he ALSO used to be the lead singer btw.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Actually that was a different band, not System.

[The Flash]

No, I know Daron was in another band as the lead singer, but even when he met Serj and formed System out of their other band "Soil".. Daron was the lead singer, and Serj played keyboards.

[mutant!]

^ Somehow I highly doubt that System would have had a dedicated keyboard player. Look at how little they used keyboards live pre-Mezmerize.

Gotta love Old School Hollywood though... :p

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^ Somehow I highly doubt that System would have had a dedicated keyboard player. Look at how little they used keyboards live pre-Mezmerize.

Gotta love Old School Hollywood though... :p
I gotta go with him there. Was there actually keyboards on s/t?
If I remember exactly Daron said in an article once, that he used to be the singer in another band but he never said he dang in System.

[napster]

Hey here is the new system's gre8 fansite
http://system.50webs.com
really nice work:thumb:

[Adm1R]

Hey here is the new system's gre8 fansite
http://system.50webs.com
really nice work:thumb:
No, and what is up with the dog?

[Skit]

Wow that fansite sucks, just stole content from everywhere else and put it on a **** design...

"HYPNOTIZE (The highlighted songs are best songs of the album)"

Says who exactly?

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Not many people seem to like darons voice but I do. Obviously Serj is much much better of course but a little of daron is good (not too much tho). i went 2 see them a while back in glasgow, they wer very good! They played most of mezmerize stuff cause that had just come out. That and hypnotize are good but not as good as old stuff, such as soad and toxicity.

[2muchket!]

Not many people seem to like darons voice but I do. Obviously Serj is much much better of course but a little of daron is good (not too much tho). i went 2 see them a while back in glasgow, they wer very good! They played most of mezmerize stuff cause that had just come out. That and hypnotize are good but not as good as old stuff, such as soad and toxicity.

Daron should do back up vocals, some of thier best work like chop suey has some great sync vocals. If they did that and daron didn't sing lead the vocals would be much better. Also shavo should get off his *** and write some decent alternate basslines.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

SOAD was my favorite band when toxicity came out. but then when mezmorized came out they became all big and mainstream and i hate it when that happens. all the bands i liked when i was in 4th and 5th grade are now big today and all of a sudden my friends start liking them. system of a down was over played on the radio as well as many other bands. thats why i dont like them anymore. radio kills music.

thank god metal is not mainstream and not overplayed

[Senator Screw You]

^^^
That sucks when that happens but at least you can say that you were there before it was cool eh?

Also the last two albums I think are genius, may not be what their earlier albums were like, but still in general it was great.

[Skit]

Dude SOAD have been mainstream since toxicity...

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Daron should do back up vocals, some of thier best work like chop suey has some great sync vocals. If they did that and daron didn't sing lead the vocals would be much better. Also shavo should get off his *** and write some decent alternate basslines.

very true, there are songs which he only does a bit of singin and it sounds great, but 2 much isnt great. ino shavo probably can do better and have no idea why he doesnt:confused: but.. i will always love soad either way

[Tele_Dude]

SOAD was my favorite band when toxicity came out. but then when mezmorized came out they became all big and mainstream and i hate it when that happens. all the bands i liked when i was in 4th and 5th grade are now big today and all of a sudden my friends start liking them. system of a down was over played on the radio as well as many other bands. thats why i dont like them anymore. radio kills music.

thank god metal is not mainstream and not overplayed


Does that make it bad?

If a band is cool and all, why would you care if it was played on the radio, or if the band was on TV? Does it affect the music itself? No.

[2muchket!]

If a band gets some success its a good thingg right better them on t' radion than some ****ty new age R&B or gangsta' c'rap

[PepsiMetal]

very true, there are songs which he only does a bit of singin and it sounds great, but 2 much isnt great. ino shavo probably can do better and have no idea why he doesnt:confused: but.. i will always love soad either way

No he can't do much better, he's not that good.

He's like lars of metallica, for system of a down. A manager type who plays in a band just because it's his band and he wants to fill that position. :smoke:

SOAD was my favorite band when toxicity came out. but then when mezmorized came out they became all big and mainstream and i hate it when that happens. all the bands i liked when i was in 4th and 5th grade are now big today and all of a sudden my friends start liking them. system of a down was over played on the radio as well as many other bands. thats why i dont like them anymore. radio kills music.

So you're saying you listen to music because no one knows about it and if they get big you stop listening because they gain more younger fans, and all of a sudden, because of their younger audience, even their old music that you loved starts sucking?

[Rattlehead]

If a band gets some success its a good thingg right better them on t' radion than some ****ty new age R&B or gangsta' c'rap
absolutely. that guy felt jealous when other people started likin his music? i think so. i know a few ppl like that.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

No he can't do much better, he's not that good.

He's like lars of metallica, for system of a down. A manager type who plays in a band just because it's his band and he wants to fill that position. :smoke:


Ye ino he couldnt do "much" better but he can do better than he does. anyway..they are a great band and i like most of their albums and hope they dont go down hill even tho there new stuff isnt quite as good as old

[Pantallica32]

Ye ino he couldnt do "much" better but he can do better than he does. anyway..they are a great band and i like most of their albums and hope they dont go down hill even tho there new stuff isnt quite as good as old
not quite as good ??
ok mezmerize wasn't that bad but hypnotize was just a dissapointment
soad was always one of my favorite bands but if they gonna release anything like the 2 recent albums....
i just hope that daron takes a step back on the singing and concentrates more on the riffs and let serj do the singiing

[Rattlehead]

i love Hypnotize. i think it kicks a*s. sure, its different, and nothing beats their self named, but songs like lonely day, killing r&r, vicinity of obscenity etc are gr8:thumb:

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

i dont really listen to hypnotize cause it doesnt really do much for me, mezmerize is a pretty good album and there old stuff (toxicity being my favourite) is the best. Daron should take a bit of a step back but still do some back up vocals

[Rattlehead]

yea, Daron isn't nearly as good as Serj, and i agree that when Daron started sings system lost their iconic sound to a certain extent. the music is great but for example, when Daron sings in Stealing Society, he sounds really shi*ty and punky. this puts me off. but i still listen to the album, i really enjoy it.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

good point. well we'll see, hopefully they find this out themselves and sort it out for their next album. Serj is one of the best vocalists i know of IMO, he has such an original and unique voice. why do u think they decided for daron to start singin more anyway?

[TojesDolan]

You really need to expand your tastes, then.

He is a recognizable singer, not an amazing singer. I like what he does, but there's people with better range.

Range isn't all though. It's all about how you use your voice.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

ye i agree there are better singers but i just really like his voice personally.. i saw them live a while back, hes good live as well

[Spiritofmosa]

lonely day and soldierside are soad's softs songs ever

[Jim]

Roulette???

[Spiritofmosa]

of yeah i forgot roulette

[A_Guy]

You know what song kicks ***? Marmalade. If you haven't heard it, open Limewire and get it.

[Rattlehead]

You really need to expand your tastes, then.

He is a recognizable singer, not an amazing singer. I like what he does, but there's people with better range.

Range isn't all though. It's all about how you use your voice.

absolutely, but i thinks he was saying that serj is unique. and he has certain vocal skills that few others can rival.

[Tele_Dude]

I got a bit dissapointed when I saw the track-list for the Lonely Day single.
Just old songs, and no Hezze. Man, I cant wait to hear that one.

[Rattlehead]

You know what song kicks ***? Marmalade. If you haven't heard it, open Limewire and get it.
just did, and it sure is a gd'n

[Pantallica32]

man i just listened to their first selftitled album
,sh*t it really kicks @$$ too bad they don't make their songs like they did on their first
ok maybe hypnotize isn't that bad, but daron singing in every song, sometimes more than serj, annoys me plus if you look back to their older songs every song is heavy even the softest is quite hard like spiders but the corny lonely day is just an embarresment

[Rattlehead]

na i like lonely day. its songs like stealing society that piss me off, where daron sounds really shi*tilly punky. but yeah, the self-titled is truly brilliant. Know is such a great song! and sugar too.

THE KOMBUCHA MUSHROOM PEOPLE SITTING AROUND ALL DAY:thumb: :thumb:

[NymphetamineX]

Psycho groupie cocaine crazy? Makes you high, makes you high?

I love how random their old stuff is. But, Lonely Day and Lost in Hollywood are incredibly kick-*** songs.

[Rattlehead]

i agree.
yea lol, like for example off of the self-titled album(cant remember the song name) there's a well random lyric: "books all say different things while people flap their yellow wings" - i think it's Know.

[Rattlehead]

for some reason my itunes messed up and put "**** the system" on the on Toxicity. what is its correct album?

[Senator Screw You]

^^ Steal This Album

I think Serj and Daron harmonise beautifully.
But if Daron is left for too long on his own he may do some damage.

[mutant!]

^ I would just like to add my 2c (again :rolleyes: ) about Daron's voice. His voice is typical pop-punk fare. He could have done well in Blink 182. *However*, given SOAD's penchant for ridiculing mass markets and pop culture, it's suitably ironic. So it's a sh1te (lead) voice but in context, it works from an artistic point of view.

And yes, Serj and Daron's voices are perfectly suited for harmony.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

absolutely, but i thinks he was saying that serj is unique. and he has certain vocal skills that few others can rival.

exactly, thanks mate

[Rattlehead]

exactly, thanks mate
no probs!

^^ Steal This Album

I think Serj and Daron harmonise beautifully.
But if Daron is left for too long on his own he may do some damage.
this is the truth. they do harmonise well, and yes daron should remain a backing singer.

^ I would just like to add my 2c (again :rolleyes: ) about Daron's voice. His voice is typical pop-punk fare. He could have done well in Blink 182. *However*, given SOAD's penchant for ridiculing mass markets and pop culture, it's suitably ironic. So it's a sh1te (lead) voice but in context, it works from an artistic point of view.

And yes, Serj and Daron's voices are perfectly suited for harmony.
ur right about the punkyness. ive said it b4, and ill say it again: Stealing Society is a perfect example of it. i feel like slapping him when i hear that punky rap.

[2muchket!]

Stealing Society is a good example of how daron and serj can harmonise well too.

[Rattlehead]

except for the part when daron is the only one singing, which is a perfect example of where daron oversteps the mark.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

why did they decide to have daron sing alot?

[Rattlehead]

to experiment? i'd have thought they might think it would get them more "popular with the girls", as daron has quite a sissy voice. i must have been what got them on the radio. it just depends on whether they want to please more of their true fans(metalheads/us) with serj, or rake in more cash with the publicity of daron's voice.

[mutant!]

why did they decide to have daron sing alot?
He wrote a lot of the lyrics. He went through a very difficult time, I forget why; possibly to do with the US invasion of Iraq (don't quote me on that). He was channeling a lot of anger and other emotions into his music and Serj felt it would be wrong for him to try and generate those emotions just for the sake of singing the songs. So he let Daron step forward. Serj has no issues with that. He just plays more keys/guitar nowadays. Gotta love Question!

[Rattlehead]

that's interesting. did he feel strongly about the iraq war? and yea question is cool. strange melody at the beginning, but cool

[purgatory]

I think the majority of the US has a problem with us being in Iraq. I think that making an album about it is pointless. They aren't telling us anything we don't know. Unless they are talking to the retards of the world who don't watch the news lol.

[mutant!]

^ Art is expression, not information. They're expressing their feelings about the war, not informing us there was one. If you say making an album about a war everyone knows about anyways is pointless, then you are blatantly stating art is pointless; which is a double-edged sword, since you obviously are an artist yourself, seeing as how you are a member of an online forum dedicated to the creation of music. Noob.

Question! is liek teh coolest EVAR. About two weeks before Mezmerise came out, I discovered a CD my dad owned by this SA band who play this mix of jazz, Brazilian, African and other music. I was absorbed by the music. Then Question! came along and took what that band plays and added metal guitars. I creamed my pants.

[Rattlehead]

dont call people noobs please, allthough you made a good point, their lack of posts in no way relates to their mental capacity, so don't insult it. :thumb:

soldier side from hypnotise is so much greater than the mezmerize version. i love that song.

has anyone heard their extra songs? like Defied you, Marijuana In Your Brain(spinny sh*t), Marmalade, Starlit Eyes, Storage and Temper? they own.

[Rattlehead]

OMG i just heard the SOAD cover for sabbath's snowblind, its amazing. some people might have a problem with how much they changed it, but i really liked it. Serj's voice is great in it.

[Senator Screw You]

WOW!!! SNOWBLIND!!! I must listen.

[Rattlehead]

i know, sabbath rule. someone has to revive the thread. but yea if you're a religious sabbath maniac, be warned that the SOAD cover is quite a contrast. i got it off limewire.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

did u jsut type in system of a down? or what? i need to hear that, sabbath rock!!

[Rattlehead]

they sure do.

someone on this thread a while ago suggested Marmalade as a good SOAD song that isn't on any particular album. i put "artist: system of a down, title: marmalade" and it came up with a load of other songs that are albumless. and snowblind.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

just done it and heard it, amazing!:)

[Rattlehead]

glad u like it, i did. good stuff.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

do u know if "soad - shame" is suppose 2 ft. wu-tang clan? :confused:

[mutant!]

@!MuDvAyNiAn!: yes. Awesome song, amirite?
dont call people noobs please, allthough you made a good point, their lack of posts in no way relates to their mental capacity, so don't insult it. :thumb:
I was calling him a noob on the basis of his post. I didn't even look at his post count before you mentioned it now. He's a noob at life.
has anyone heard their extra songs? like Defied you, Marijuana In Your Brain(spinny sh*t), Marmalade, Starlit Eyes, Storage and Temper? they own.
I have (or rather, had) a **lot** of SOAD B-sides. Temper kicks AASHCSSCHHH; so does Marmalade and Storage. There's others too, I can't remember. You realise however that a lot of their B-sides were later renamed and released on STA?

[Cartman]

they sure do.

someone on this thread a while ago suggested Marmalade as a good SOAD song that isn't on any particular album. i put "artist: system of a down, title: marmalade" and it came up with a load of other songs that are albumless. and snowblind.
Am downloading it right now, ill tell you what I think of the song as soon as ill listen to it, I hope its as good as the Sabbath one :)
anyway am off to bed, goodnight everyone.. :wave:

[New name Spiraldown]

Its cool I heard it ages ago but its still good.

[Rattlehead]

Am downloading it right now, ill tell you what I think of the song as soon as ill listen to it, I hope its as good as the Sabbath one :)
anyway am off to bed, goodnight everyone.. :wave:
dont compare it to the original; i heard it and thought it must have been a soad song called snowblind. its totally different, except for the chords. i ca respect it for more than a cover, ita so different.